endgame-lounge

[robust shoal]

you can get a lot

4 ramparts and 4 shadow walls though I think is fine

[clear plume]

Do not ask a man his salary, a woman her weight, or my tank where they used hallowed ground in our clear pull

[robust shoal]

could get some more dark minds/oblations too

I was MT on 12-2

[zealous meteor]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

that is all.

[clear plume]

What weapon drop did u get cats

[boreal pumice]

bets on pct

[robust shoal]

pct

thankfully our caster is omni

[sinful brook]

How far back I gotta scroll for this

[shy obsidian]

SHOULD I GET BAKOOL JA JA OR METEM'S VOICELINES FOR MAHJONG

[kind elm]

please

please spare me

[boreal pumice]

im in the grave

[sinful brook]

I just want to read it

Smile

[clear plume]

Like 3 days

[shy obsidian]

oh btw anyone wanna sacrifice their dignity and do physical ranged for our static

we're short a person

[boreal pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-gun-gif-27116588

channy

[clear plume]

Where r u at

[sinful brook]

Nah it's just really funny to read headass takes

[clear plume]

And how long

[shy obsidian]

A of the ether

[clear plume]

I meant prog wise

Although I think my alt is primal jailed rn

[shy obsidian]

We're cleaning up the Scream 2, but we've managed to see up to Deathmatch

[clear plume]

What fight is this

[kind elm]

m9s adds cleanup

[boreal pumice]

m9

[kind elm]

is what they are trying to say

[boreal pumice]

feels kinda odd to think of coffin maker and big spikey balls as adds

[clear plume]

Ok bc scream 2 into deathmatch sounded like r7 to me lmao

[zealous meteor]

r7?

this server only has 5 rules

[kind elm]

r usage based

superior acronym

[clear plume]

i do not have a char on aether with 770 gear with chests available bad news

[loud nymph]

m10s fun

that is all

[low hearth]

SUDDENLY I WANNA BE 😤 RIDIN’ FREE 🌊 XTREME 💥 OH BABY CAN’T YOU SEE 👀
✂️ CUT THE LEASH ✂️ SO I CAN BREATHE 😮‍💨 NOW IN ME 💪 I CAN BELIEVE ✨
👀 LOOK IN THE MIRROR 👀 LOOK IN THE MIRROR
👀 LOOK IN THE MIRROR 👀 AND TELL ME WHAT YOU SEE 🪞
😎 SAW THE ME THAT I WANNA BE 😎 IN THE MIRROR
🏄‍♂️ RIGHT WHERE WE OUGHTTA BE 🏄‍♂️

[echo ibex]

Oh fuck it's you Chiyo just realized

[clear plume]

unleashed if howling blade was straight

[rapid whale]

congrats

[boreal pumice]

looks at his gf

[jolly flume]

haiiii :3

[kind elm]

picks you up

[jolly flume]

throws me?

oh

[robust shoal]

[clear plume]

i love 11 bc i get to quote "show me your footwork" for the 87th time today into voicechat

[kind elm]

i think this image minus howling blades face is chiyos first ever dm to me

[raw sand]

crazy

[jolly flume]

I say show me your feet every pull

along with its tyranny time, folks

[clear plume]

SAME

goated quotes

[jolly flume]

yeah we didn't have big yaoi wolf man yet

[boreal pumice]

we have hrothgar players for that

[jolly flume]

uhhhhh

that ain't me

[kind elm]

that anime

[jolly flume]

typing is hard rn

im decimating my toilet and my hands hurt

[kind elm]

wish i was there

[jolly flume]

🥀

[sinful brook]

Why are you using your hands on the toilet

[raw sand]

the heck did u eat

he's fighting for his life

[kind elm]

ok chat

i need opinions

do i brush my teeth or let them rot

[loud nymph]

rot rot rot rot rot rot rot

[sinful brook]

Half and half

[jolly flume]

I may or may not have eaten very slightly undercooked chicken because I didn't have enough time to fully cook it before raid

idk if that's why

[sinful brook]

Every other tooth rots

[jolly flume]

but seems likely

[kind elm]

[clear plume]

ok fellas place ur bets on how long it takes

[boreal pumice]

chiyo your cooked unlike the chicken

[raw sand]

that probably'd done it

[jolly flume]

I am pretty cooked

[boreal pumice]

16 mins

[raw sand]

Chiyo decided xiv raids are too easy

[sinful brook]

It's 8pm est it's not happening wonder

[clear plume]

just microwave the last bit of it

[raw sand]

so he put salmonella debuff

[clear plume]

duh

[jolly flume]

exhausted but i'm riding the energy from being almost there

[raw sand]

irl

[kind elm]

why even going to aether

[jolly flume]

this boss gotta die

[kind elm]

crystal where all the hoes at

[raw sand]

suspicious number of ulti raider hoes

[clear plume]

i need to be a big strong raider w1 and find my whm ewife duh

[raw sand]

the pipeline

[kind elm]

im hoes georg, im inflating the numbers

[jolly flume]

i'm the whm wife

[raw sand]

but... what if ur the whm

[jolly flume]

lf big strong tank main to heal

[quick verge]

6 hours

[jolly flume]

sorry I think I threw up in my mouth a little typing that

[kind elm]

i solved this by becoming the wife

[jolly flume]

but are you a whm

[kind elm]

i was until i did meso terminal with marce

she has now banned me from healing ever again

[wicked delta]

You need to be dissected

[boreal pumice]

tobi you play whm

[jolly flume]

it's mildly amusing to me that my first whm log in any real content is m11s

[wicked delta]

You also need to be dissected

I played it for one raid tier bc everyone told me healing was hard

[raw sand]

well, was it?

[wicked delta]

Not really

[kind elm]

in LHW i was in a static with a WHM/SGE couple where the SGE padded heals mega hard so WHM could parse

during prog

[jolly flume]

healing is piss easy in this game but it's also so fun building a plan in prog

and recovery

[wicked delta]

It does seem fun for this raidtier weirdly enough

Wish I played it here instead of cruiser

But I don’t wanna heal in savage for at least 3 years

[clear plume]

healers love pressing esuna

put it in a raid and theyll enjoy it every time

[jolly flume]

I give it five minutes before they start begging for a bard swap

[wicked delta]

Ive died in TEA P1 because pressing esuna is too hard

[boreal pumice]

i only esuna myself - bard

[tulip wraith]

ooh what plugin is this

[dull drum]

lifestream

im guessing

[clear plume]

literally just named autotravel or something

[dull drum]

nvm

im big dumb

😭

[clear plume]

https://github.com/anomek/AutoTravel

[tulip wraith]

tyty

[thin fox]

Thank you Rinon for adding another raidplan onto the pile that will be patched in 2 weeks leading to people griefing m11s even more

🥹

personally I like not being able to clear m11s for even longer!

[torn kindle]

Is it another arena split raid plan that uses a very specific marker placement that doesn’t work with other raid plans

[thin fox]

basically people discovered that you can get so far away from the tether that it literally doesnt do damage

due to an internal game issue with aoes not being able to hurt you from a certain distance

[jolly flume]

why would you bother doing that lol

the damage isn't the problem with meteors

[thin fox]

because then the tether people also have to bait prey

lol

[robust shoal]

^

that's what my static did

[jolly flume]

bruh

[thin fox]

because theyll only get hit by the prey

since they outdistance the tether

[robust shoal]

it makes the spots a lot more lenient

[jolly flume]

how do you outrange them though

at minimum you're constrained by the halfrooms

[robust shoal]

you just stretch them

[jolly flume]

and tethers are already far corners in the normal strats

[robust shoal]

the side with the far safe spots just takes them to corners

the side with close safe spot can't

[jolly flume]

oh that makes sense

[robust shoal]

that's my static strat exactly

[jolly flume]

iunno, it works I guess

I don't think the usual marker strat is that tight though, it's entirely consistent as long as you know where the safe zones are on your specific set of markers

[thin fox]

the marker strat is fine people just int it

[clear plume]

the markers are also like, very lenient but

[thin fox]

the people who cant do kindred markers wont be able to do this either

imo

[clear plume]

i like that this gets rid of "cursed" pattern

[thin fox]

kindred markers dont have cursed pattern

only tf markers

[robust shoal]

ppl couln't do uptime sunrise, I don't trust ppl to do this now you're on the corner, oh now you're on the edge

[jolly flume]

our markers are center of the waymark edge on the safe half of the halfroom cleave

not really any thinking to be done, basically just align yourself and dodge the halfroom

[thin fox]

if you use these markers

while going on the outer corners

there is no cursed pattern

this would be "cursed pattern" using tf markers

[clear plume]

see but the issue is that pf doesnt put meteors in the right spot to consistently actually have that safe spot

[thin fox]

if people arent placing things correctly then it doesnt matter what strat you do

[clear plume]

i dont trust pixel positons that arent dsr level you have 30s to get there

[thin fox]

[scarlet lintel]

182/248 pulls spent on just failing to get past m12s p1 enrage is kinda crazy

[echo ibex]

Do you think it'll get fixed

[echo ibex]

Becasue some markers are inner dodge and others outer dodge

And people don't know or won't know it

That's why i'm just eye balling prayers

[robust shoal]

not sure tbh

but I think if it's not fixed within a week or two it just won't

leaning on probably won't

[thin fox]

I don't want to do weapons anymore

I don't want to do weapons again

[tulip anvil]

i got a 95 on m9s woo

[robust shoal]

nice

[uncut pebble]

https://raidplan.io/plan/ajqbf5dgrqt7eucp

[tulip anvil]

anyone got the raidplan for m10s?

[shy obsidian]

My static can’t meet tomorrow but I wanna clear and get my bracelet and ring
WHAT DO I DO

[boreal pumice]

PF and pray

[shy obsidian]

Do ya think they’ll accept 2 million each for the first week

[tulip anvil]

no

[echo ibex]

On week 1?

No less than 5 mil

And that's being generous

[scarlet lintel]

i saw 30mils

[thin tartan]

anyway

[sinful brook]

grats billy

[thin fox]

reporting u for mod usage

see u in gm jail buddy

[trim frost]

so tldr tethers should hug mid?

[trim frost]

wow that’s a lot of red dots

[uncut pebble]

did u look at raid plan

idk .

there r lines on the floor

[trim frost]

fym idk you posted it

[shy obsidian]

AAGGHHH i wish my static didn’t only meet on Saturday and Sundayyyyy

[royal ginkgo]

@shy obsidianhits an homerun on kikio

[echo ibex]

Okay buddy

[thin fox]

more m11 today

THE POWER OF FERAL SOULS MAKES THE ARCADION WHAT IT IS

[thin tartan]

im actually vanilla

[dense oxide]

[royal ginkgo]

wrong channel lmao

gonna dip

[echo ibex]

Look closer

[jolly flume]

LETS

FUCKING

GO

BABYYYYYY

[thin fox]

m12s phase 2?

thats a baby fight

try clear m11s in the party finder

and see how 'good' of a player you are

[scarlet lintel]

m11s wasnt that ba to clear in pf

i cant even see m12s p2 in pf

cant get through p1 enrage

[rapid whale]

That's my goat Sam

[thin tartan]

Idk why i had like

Crazy uptime and everything

And it only gave me a green

[thin tartan]

My fuckjng god

[stray forge]

I can't take it anymore

[jolly flume]

omnihealer w1

it is done

[stray forge]

PF not worth

[rain geode]

Oh right door boss I was like why tf do you have 6 kills

[rain geode]

Pf is hell and I've been crashing out since Thursday

[fierce matrix]

HUGE MY GOAT

glad you got the clear today

howd you like p2

also wanna come heal m11s 1 chest

[boreal pumice]

so what wpn dropped im guessing on dnc

[jolly flume]

thematically 12/10, mechanically I don't know how to feel about idyllic design wise, obviously it's really cool but idk that it's like particularly a good idea or something they should do again

but I really really like the first rewind clones mech

it's so fun to do

[robust shoal]

Idyllic was trippy going blind

The pull when we were all shouting go pick a meteor soak gogogo then he goes nope and zoots us out to another dimension

[remote gate]

what fight do you guys see being problematic to reclear

[robust shoal]

all of them except 9

and door

door seems fine

[fierce matrix]

my favorite thing is how free you can mess with the mechs

there are MULTIPLE different strats you can do

and its really all up to how you feel is best

there isn't just one solution have fun figuring it out

[robust shoal]

we did a really wacky setup for first staging

it was not symmetrical

we just made macros to remember which spot took which mechanic

[lavish mortar]

how to clear m11s

[jolly flume]

the week 2 11 reclear is gonna be insane

ngl

[lavish mortar]

bro i was saying that

[thin fox]

i want out

[jolly flume]

another 3 hours of reprog coming right up

[lavish mortar]

TAKE ME WITH YOUUUU

[robust shoal]

m11s split strats be like

[thin fox]

i don't want to do weapons anymore

[thin fox]

i can do everything

i can do the whole fight

i can ot

i can mt

[lavish mortar]

simply (ab) use rinon

[thin fox]

it does not matter

[boreal pumice]

can you kill it

[lavish mortar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVMJHlm30l8

apparently aoes cant go beyond 60y

[boreal pumice]

thats likely to be fixed

[lavish mortar]

beat it before its fixed then

[remote gate]

static got to 9s enrage so i guess there's that

[lavish mortar]

cheese your clear

then troll reclear parties

👍

[boreal pumice]

so no point learning cheese if your see it fixed

[robust shoal]

tl;dw but my group did a "definitely dev intended" strat

[remote gate]

unironically keeping up with the bat makes the sanguine scratch mechanic harder

[robust shoal]

it's very comfy

[echo ibex]

Cool and what after

[lavish mortar]

You gaslight your reclear parties

[robust shoal]

like we're looking to swap over to pf strats for most stuff but we might just keep the split strat because the safe spots have a lot of wiggle room

[clear plume]

beat it again bc it wasnt patched

[amber fable]

are pf strats good this time or what?

well tf more like

[lavish mortar]

I mean they're okay

arena split is just ungodly levels of precise

compared to everything else

[amber fable]

man i stopped raiding for 2 days

should get to clear m10 today.....

[jolly flume]

dude it's like insanely cool though no?

[jolly flume]

I thought relativity was the coolest savage mech they ever made and this is basically relativity

but with more steps

the whole staging thing is just so cool

[amber fable]

m12 reminded me of e12

[fierce matrix]

I enjoy it

the alternate dimension

that shit is SO cool

and the debuffs disappear which I think is SOOO nice

so you can't see who has what debuffs

[remote gate]

is m12sp2 a massive skill check

[echo ibex]

Do you feel like it

[remote gate]

cause every raid play I've looked at for it is like holy shit

[amber fable]

i am at last mech..surely doable

[echo ibex]

Like I unironically see so people obsessed with week 1 and like

At the end of the day it's a game, don't force yourself onto it

[amber fable]

:cluegi

[echo ibex]

I didn't raid y'day because i simply didn't feel like it

[amber fable]

i am taking chill this time

[echo ibex]

If someone in 7 months decides to judge me because i didn't W1 i'll just tell em to take a shower

[remote gate]

four more weeks and tomestone weapons become generally available

[amber fable]

will clear by week 42069

[worn bluff]

i guess we were spared from this in M9-M10

[worn bluff]

ngl the main reason i try to clear earlier is so i can finish getting bis for ulti earlier

but that's like aiming for week 3-4 clear, not 1

[amber fable]

early prog do have better quality overall in pf

[remote gate]

^^^

[amber fable]

which isnt a lot

but man..later on party formation takes too long

makes me not wanna do it

[remote gate]

i just want to clear a fight with people that dont suck balls

[rain geode]

Yeah M10S already feels like its drying up in terms of skill level lmao

[jolly flume]

memory and mechanical understanding check

[worn bluff]

memory... damn

i'm a goldfish

[remote gate]

can you rely on macros

[daring pine]

chiyo im haunted by dogshit healers in expert roulette again

meso terminal boss 2

[low hearth]

are people using this strat?

[daring pine]

can these guys not look at the party list

💔

i am dying vro

[jolly flume]

I have fourteen of them for p2

lol

[worn bluff]

mb

[low hearth]

mb

[daring pine]

bro

[remote gate]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-straight-face-kurt-angle-wtf-wtf-face-gif-7142534337467924370

[amber fable]

cactbot bis m12

[daring pine]

the boss unironically kills me in like 3 hits after casting serial torture

and the healer is over there playing with one hand

wake up bro

[remote gate]

sorry the other hand is preoccupied

[daring pine]

lock in

[jolly flume]

oh yeah @clear plume like 5 people said the personal macros hard carried

[daring pine]

yeah hopefully with strangling themselves

[jolly flume]

thanks for those

[daring pine]

also hi shiggy

[remote gate]

oh yeah theyre strangling all right

hello marce

[daring pine]

hello

i woke up an hour ago

[remote gate]

yeah I noticed

[rain geode]

There are only clear parties and snaking parties so now I have to ask the hard question wait for a PF to fill or just go to bed

[daring pine]

i am still annoyed

to say the least

[amber fable]

what mech are you on?

[daring pine]

oh brb trial rolo

[rain geode]

Or Yolo a snaking party and hope they're gamers that learn quick

[amber fable]

snaking to alley 2 is doable

[remote gate]

good luck I hope its something good

[daring pine]

shinryu

[rain geode]

Technically Deep Aerial

[remote gate]

could be huge

[robust shoal]

man

[amber fable]

yeah you can do clear parties

[robust shoal]

I cannot remember any of the mechanic names this tier

[amber fable]

just dont choke on air 2

[robust shoal]

idk why

[amber fable]

or alley 2

its free but you can die to memes there

[rain geode]

but since healer bubbles seem to be the call now Im pretty confident I could join an Arena split party

Since deep aerial seems real easyu

[amber fable]

arena split is easy

[thin fox]

idk how Im ever going to clear this fight

[remote gate]

im worried on how m10 is gonna go

[jolly flume]

dude there is no way

[rain geode]

M10 Doesnt seem that bad if you have a static

[remote gate]

cause I do not want to be stuck in the same situation I was last tier being stuck in a fight for a month

[low hearth]

arena split is way too hard bruh

[rain geode]

but every PF is gonna be them learning Double alleyoop again

[low hearth]

👉 🐂

[amber fable]

2 fights having arena split

m11 dont look as boring atleast

look forward to get stuck there for a while

[thin fox]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-fortnite-fortnite-ishowspeed-cheeks-ishowspeed-blow-gif-8384090200881199846

[remote gate]

pov: you are progging m11s

[thin fox]

im gonna blvow my fucking briuzANssout

[robust shoal]

seems to depend if you're ranged or melee

melee has a lot of fun uptiming weapons

[thin fox]

UPTIME

IS THAT WHAT THEYRE DOING

[amber fable]

i am on tank...will be fun times

[thin fox]

I THOUGHT THEY QWERE DYING

[rain geode]

My ass is gonna be pressing so many Ruin II's if I get to M11S

[remote gate]

over 100 ruin II

[daring pine]

ok trial over

@remote gate are u gonna pf tmrw

[remote gate]

yeah id like to clear tomorrow for a boom at least

[daring pine]

i'll be there

[remote gate]

im not holding my breath on any equipment pieces

[daring pine]

same time?

[remote gate]

Hopefully

[daring pine]

sounds good

[rain geode]

I just want to get M10S done before reset but I should probably make my peace with it not happening

[remote gate]

feel you on that one

ill be happy to clear 9s before reset

[daring pine]

bro

shiggy

tf

[rain geode]

How far are you?

[remote gate]

enrage but i guess sanguine scratch clean up

only got to enrage once and that was a rough run

[rain geode]

Assuming you have time to play you should be able to clear

[daring pine]

i need to cleanup hiac

[remote gate]

i think we'll make it

[rain geode]

Im gonna try doing a full 8 hours of actual prog tommorow even tho that probably wont be enough

[daring pine]

i know what to do for the mechanic i just need to

you know

get there

..cleanly

[remote gate]

ngl our first run getting to hiac my brain forgot the positioning for tank and im ashamed of myself for that one

[daring pine]

lol our first run getting to hiac was so scuffed

[remote gate]

ss2 is hard as hell on dps

[rain geode]

Screech 2 is honestly the hardest mechanic in that fight if you can get through it cleanly you probably wont be on hell in a cell very long

[remote gate]

and I have a big fuckin saw in my face covering my pov so I cant see whats happening

[daring pine]

the one at the end of adds 2?

[remote gate]

yeah

[daring pine]

that one hurt

[remote gate]

when im at a tower north it blocks my view so I have to rely on my gcd mapping to know where we are

[rain geode]

I think I needed like 2 pulls to figure out hell in a cell myself the only thing that really messed me up is how fast you need to get into your tower

[remote gate]

once you get in your cell its easy as cell have like no hp

around that time I have my sixty second which let's me kill it easy

[daring pine]

manifesting 40 tomes

normal raids bless me

[remote gate]

m8n jumpscare

[amber fable]

Btw for m10 do you hold anytime beside water bubble...?

[daring pine]

orb..

[remote gate]

melon

... allagan melon?

[thin fox]

i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight i hate this fight

[rain geode]

Man I thought I was crashing out

[echo ibex]

The one that doesn't come out until what

8 months from now

[daring pine]

bro

[rain geode]

I mean isnt each weapon like 2 months to get from the raids?

[low hearth]

Same

[amber fable]

If you're unlucky

[low hearth]

Yea with books

[amber fable]

Yes

Simply dont be unlucky

[rain geode]

All evidence points to me being unlucky sadly

[worn bluff]

yeah that's why i feel like i should just

not care

i'll clear when i clear

[amber fable]

I need 7 clones of myself

Would clear day 2 ngl

[thin fox]

god

that was such a fucking hopeful second pull too

and then just

nope

cant do it again

AND FUCKING

70 M INUTES INTO LOCKOUT

"UHH ARE THESE INSIDE OR OUTSIDE MARKERS"

WHAT ABOUT A KNIFE INSIDE OR OUTSIDE YOUR STOMACH

[rain geode]

Although if my experience so far has taught me anything its doing high end without a static is dumb so well see if I end up doing the 7.5 ulti

[midnight furnace]

Beat M9S

Another week 1 clear down

[low hearth]

m10s hell next

[midnight furnace]

Probs wont beat M10S but ill try to get some prog tomorrow

[low hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-gif-14922675818058709477

[amber fable]

You can get to 50% fight in 30 min easy

[midnight furnace]

Im both excited and afraid of that fight lol

[amber fable]

Remaining 50% takes most time

[midnight furnace]

Compared to P10S it should still be easier right

[amber fable]

Yea

It is

[midnight furnace]

Since i heard Pandæmonium was a ultimate in disguise lol

[amber fable]

Mechanically its not hard

P10 had lot of body checks

M10 is more forgiving to fuck ups

[clear plume]

ik im the goat

[thin fox]

i don't want to come off rude

but

[daring pine]

@remote gate we got this tomorrow trust

[thin fox]

i think melee players literally are not human

[daring pine]

agreed

[midnight furnace]

Oh thats nice to know

[thin fox]

if i see

[midnight furnace]

You tell me XD

[thin fox]

one more fucking ninja

try to last second shukuchi

in triple tyrannation

and die

i am going to lose my mind

[daring pine]

inx you know it's gonna happen again

[midnight furnace]

Most of the problems i had with M9S in PF were the Melee dying to Vamp Stomp or Greed

[thin fox]

THEY KEEP TRYING IT

AND ALWAYS FUCK IT UP

i have never seen a ninja

[low hearth]

Yo @thin fox

[thin fox]

do it correctly

[daring pine]

because ninja brain small

[thin fox]

not once

[amber fable]

Melee being skill gapped...say it aint so

[thin fox]

they always do it too late

[amber fable]

Cant greed

[low hearth]

Does the arena split tether stuff happen twice?

[thin fox]

and die

[amber fable]

Cant uptime

[thin fox]

yes

two sets of tethers

its the same mech

[low hearth]

[midnight furnace]

If i werent a Caster main this tier id be a NIN main

[daring pine]

me when vamp stomp and i immediately see the melees kill each other

[low hearth]

Ts kinda hard

[midnight furnace]

But im not confident enough to play Melee in Savage yet

(I say this when i did the last 2 tiers as a Tank lol)

[thin fox]

oh youre not confident?

[daring pine]

im chronically ranged

[thin fox]

sounds like youre a perfect melee

if you dont know how to play the fucking game

you will fit

RIGHT IN

WITH THE NA PF

[midnight furnace]

Lmao

[daring pine]

bro can i get anything other than worqor chirteh in frontlines

[midnight furnace]

Yeah i think Ninja would be the one id play

Not as lag problematic as Viper or Reaper but also not as slow

[thin fox]

samurai is fucking crazy this tier for melee

so much cleave in your burst for m10

and midare/tsubame range lets you keep so much weapons uptime

[midnight furnace]

This reminds me

What is the best LB to use on M10S

[thin fox]

caster

[midnight furnace]

Cause its 2 targets after all

Woohoo my time to shine

[thin fox]

caster is 0.9x of melee lb and ranged is 0.6x so 2 target caster is 1.8x melee lb

but ranged is still a gain over melee

[amber fable]

Isnt range and caster lb same damage?

[thin fox]

no

[boreal pumice]

Why is ranged lb so weak and more awkward to use circle easier to aim

[midnight furnace]

I have no idea

[amber fable]

Prange existence

[midnight furnace]

I really dont get some of the choices they do with PRanged really

[thin fox]

the only benefit of prange lb specifically

is its shape

[midnight furnace]

I dunno if Machinist is bad or good due to this

[amber fable]

Its long I guess

[thin fox]

but this is basically never relevant

so

also I think it has a shorter animation lock

caster lock is actually fucking bullshit bro

[midnight furnace]

It did help during Adds in M6S at least

[thin fox]

caster lb animation is like

you hit lb

[midnight furnace]

But it was 2 bars lb

[thin fox]

you perform the cast

the animation goes out

fucking

20 MINUTES LATER

you can move

[quick verge]

you can birth a whole child from scratch with caster lb lock

[midnight furnace]

And Verflashbang also gas 5050 on killing the whole party lmao

[thin fox]

it is INSANE how long caster lb lock is and you need to know this for 10 cuz if you try do it before a mech you are #fucked

[stray forge]

WHY IS A TANK STANDING WHERE IM SUPPOSED TO WALK INTO VAMP STOMP

I'm crashing out

[midnight furnace]

Welcome to Primal PF motherbeeper

[thin fox]

there's no good early place to use caster lb in 10 unfort

[stray forge]

WHY DO YOU KNOW IM ON PRIMAL

[thin fox]

to get a second one

[stray forge]

Who are you

[midnight furnace]

[thin fox]

cuz most groups won't have lb3 until after aerial

but post-aerial is 2m+pot if you're holding buffs in aerial

and then you have arena split

[midnight furnace]

Cause im on Primal too and i just had this same experience for 3 days

[thin fox]

where you can't afford to have caster lock

[thin fox]

so you just have to wait until the end of the fight basically

[boreal pumice]

Can you rescue a caster after the lb is casted

[thin fox]

yes

[pale blade]

sigh

[lavish mortar]

I don't know if it's me at this point

[thin fox]

you can probably use caster lb between arena split and ia2 but i don't know if you'd even get an lb1 back by the end of the fight

[dapper zealot]

Also your role says Primal

[pale blade]

why is it never the Reaper mains that are bad news

[thin fox]

10's check is not that tight anyway

[midnight furnace]

Now im in doubt

[low hearth]

Yea

[thin fox]

because there are no reaper mains

[midnight furnace]

Do i save LB for the final part or ask melee to LB and we use another one later

[dapper zealot]

I can hear him

[thin fox]

only better than summoner

[boreal pumice]

Ppl main rpr?

[midnight furnace]

Whats the issue with Reaper?

(Nostalgia over it being gigafucking broken in EW days)

[boreal pumice]

The ghost of Cooley ?

[thin fox]

idk to me it j ust sucks shit to play and its not fun

its a worse viper

[lavish mortar]

resource negative rotation by 6 minutes

[pale blade]

they just look cool while doing jack shit

[visual geyser]

Wasn’t even gigabroken

[midnight furnace]

Really?

[visual geyser]

Maybe for like a week or 2

[dapper zealot]

Who else

[midnight furnace]

Oh but thats what im saying XD

[amber fable]

Arcane crest pre nerf

[midnight furnace]

Back during the start it was for a lil while

[worn bluff]

arcane crest used to be strong

[lavish mortar]

In terms of utility crest of time returned is pretty weak

[visual geyser]

It’s more like all the other dps were bad

And needed their numbers tuned

[amber fable]

Damage wise it wasnt broken

[lavish mortar]

especially when you have monks with earth's reply and mantra

[amber fable]

Really

[worn bluff]

now arcane crest is just a participation medal that makes your healers overheal

[visual geyser]

And once that happened it was fine

[boreal pumice]

Only thing nerfed in early ew was like there regen from 4% to 2% something like that

[stray forge]

this channel is so mean

[thin fox]

I legit think Ive seen like 1 reaper in m11s so far

[midnight furnace]

Ive seen 3 i think

[visual geyser]

What about ninja

[midnight furnace]

2

[thin fox]

i see a lot of ninjas

[amber fable]

Rpr is play better to only match a glue sniffing viper

[thin fox]

who fucking

[amber fable]

So

[thin fox]

GRIEF

[low hearth]

Reaper players

[thin fox]

ninjas are the worst griefers

along w viper

[midnight furnace]

All i see is VPR usually

[amber fable]

Viper being semi prange

[thin fox]

vipers have infinite fucking ranged gcds and gap closers

and yet

they somehow

[amber fable]

And still die to greed

[thin fox]

keep griefing

and greeding uptime

[midnight furnace]

Im not confident to play Viper on PS5 Brazil net

[amber fable]

Cuz skill gapped

[daring pine]

i love donkey brain people in fl

[gritty hedge]

I need some help I did the machinist quest and I am not seeing the armor it gives you from the quest I only have the weapon it’s not in my inventory or armoury chest 🥴

[daring pine]

💔

[midnight furnace]

I am most curious how does Viper fuck up Stomp so much when it has Uncoiled that i agree

[boreal pumice]

Rpr is good in eureka at least to spawn fates

[worn bluff]

RPR is good in dungeons

[midnight furnace]

Like id understand Reaper cause sadly Harvest Moon is only 1

But Vpr has friggin 3 Uncoiled and can gain more even without downtime

[boreal pumice]

Do you think harvest moon should have charges ?

[pale blade]

but uh

yeah

[worn bluff]

i mean RPR also has no excuse. they have a 300 potency ranged filler that gives gauge

[tall meadow]

question, how much should I pay per player for a 0 chest clear of M10S? 2M? 5M?

[pale blade]

The moment I saw a Reaper in an M10S PF I just had to check their logs

[midnight furnace]

If they cant give it charges it should at least not require casting to gain more

[pale blade]

Surprise, it was hidden

[amber fable]

Gluttony stack

[midnight furnace]

10 million

[amber fable]

Harvest moon charge

[worn bluff]

gluttony stack isn't really needed that much anyways. it usually doesn't fit into burst

[amber fable]

And now its vpr again

It will help with guage still

[cerulean crown]

it doesn't give you like, a full set of Machinist Starting Gear™, it just gives you (iirc) a top and a leg piece. they should be a toadskin jacket and a pair of toadskin pants, since those are level 30

[midnight furnace]

(Jokes aside, i got paid 4 million to give up chest so 0 chest should be 1 million probs)

[worn bluff]

ig if you start with 2 charges it's +20

[amber fable]

Your guage gain will jump by 30 sec which isnt a lot but better than nothing

[boreal pumice]

Chest piece or the chest ?

[gritty hedge]

Oh okay I did get that I got confused

[worn bluff]

i just don't know why they couldn't make VPR and RPR more like gauge neutral in full uptime

[gritty hedge]

I thought it gave you a different chest piece

[midnight furnace]

All Melee have a ranged option now right?

[boreal pumice]

Mnk

[pine holly]

Aight, seen most of M11 at this point.

[amber fable]

Not monk

[daring pine]

mnk

[midnight furnace]

Doesnt monk have Fire Reply?

[amber fable]

Not unless its at 1m burst

[midnight furnace]

And Wind Reply too

[amber fable]

Yeah but those arent long duration

[tall meadow]

i guess tomorrow pf will be full of 0 chest parties, im willing to per 1-2M per person but not more XD

[amber fable]

Have to be specific time in fight

[midnight furnace]

It is a possibility yeah, but go with 2 million in case you really need the clear

[boreal pumice]

Doing dd as mnk and your best way to pull is use feint

[midnight furnace]

I feel like the best job for dungeon might be Pictomancer but thats me

[worn bluff]

i think you should go 5-10M. also invite me first

[scarlet lintel]

ucob took me around 19 hours and m12sp1 has so far been about 15 hours. fun.

[midnight furnace]

How in da fudge XD

[amber fable]

Week 1 4th floor

In pf

[boreal pumice]

Best dungeon team is just don’t take a healer make them go on strike

[amber fable]

It will take time bruv

[scarlet lintel]

well it probably wont be w1 anymore

[midnight furnace]

Heard there is a Ultimate Level mechanic in M12S

[dull drum]

but ultimate mechs are dumbed down savage mechs half the time

🤨

[midnight furnace]

It goes on for 4 mins

Supposedly

[pine holly]

When I checked yesterday M12 didn't have a lot of pfs up

[scarlet lintel]

i spent most of the day waiting for pf to fill yeah

[amber fable]

Yeah cuz pf is stuck at m11

[pine holly]

And there was already a pretty sharp drop off in pf parties from m10 to m11

[boreal pumice]

Think most pf get walled in 10

[midnight furnace]

M11 is the Wall this tier

[scarlet lintel]

surely a week 2 clear of this tier is still impressive right

i feel like m12s is pure luck atp

[rapid whale]

In pf sure

[amber fable]

Week 2 in pf = week 1 static

[pine holly]

Yeah it seemed like most parties were stuck there

[amber fable]

Honestly

[midnight furnace]

I kinda expected it to be after i faced the Tyrant in normal i was smelling shenanigans coming up

[amber fable]

Unless you know gamers who can assemble for you

[daring pine]

do we remember when next relic step comes

[amber fable]

7.41

[daring pine]

that's early

thought it'd be .45

[scarlet lintel]

tyrant dps check was rough but i cleared with 1 dps death and a damage down on the dps

[boreal pumice]

Think everyone knew the tyrant on normal was to easy and all the mechs where in savage

[amber fable]

7.41 should come this month

[scarlet lintel]

m12s ive died to enrage 3 times with 0 deaths in the party now i think

[amber fable]

No dds?

[scarlet lintel]

nope

[amber fable]

Then its probably uptime

[thin fox]

[scarlet lintel]

https://www.fflogs.com/reports/Cd6mHTgLMNpwrbBK?fight=4

[midnight furnace]

Its more like, with the way it was it felt like it was going to have some very bullshit placement incoming when i saw the tank tethers and similar

[daring pine]

0.44% would make me crash out

[scarlet lintel]

i tried to keep going with this group but then i messed up and im just

im kinda done for the night

my mental is too shattered

[daring pine]

yeah get some rest

[amber fable]

I feel that

[midnight furnace]

Be well man

[daring pine]

relax a bit

you got this

[midnight furnace]

Usually after rest the first pull after people do it 😅

[amber fable]

It happens

[scarlet lintel]

yeah ive seen some people i progged with in p2

which is a feelsbad

like im trying not to take it to mean that im not a very good player but idk

[trim frost]

my cotank has 779

am i chopped and unc

[daring pine]

i mean it's week 1 and you're in 12s so you're doing something right

[midnight furnace]

I dont think you are a bad player if you reached M12S week 1

Thats pretty amazing

[amber fable]

Lack of gear

[scarlet lintel]

i didnt win any loot Q.Q

[daring pine]

greedy ass

[scarlet lintel]

thank you though

[remote gate]

what comes out in 7.41

[daring pine]

relic step

idk what else

[midnight furnace]

I myself usually only get first floor clears week 1 and i feel helluva proud with that cause its very unexpected (for me at least)

[remote gate]

relic is gonna be 775 im assuming

[boreal pumice]

Still getting a clear gives you access to pf groups that ask for it

[daring pine]

yeah

[scarlet lintel]

this is my first time trying week 1

so i didnt really know what to expect

[boreal pumice]

Onix

[pine holly]

Especially in pf, I haven't been grinding very hard so I'm over in m11.

[daring pine]

this is also my first week 1

[midnight furnace]

I beat M1S and M9S week 1

(M5 i did not but thats cause i wasnt willing to put up with PF bullshit back then)

[remote gate]

the fact that im at enrage on a week 1 and im pretty below average on terms of tank skill level is cool

[scarlet lintel]

i was on a break for the last 2 tiers during their week 1 and i only started playing the game in dawntrail lol

[remote gate]

be glad you didnt seeing the party wipe over and over again to EA1 or dance floor 1 was terrible

[daring pine]

this time it's adds 2

[boreal pumice]

All I did was farm oc a lot now I’m missing 1 item for both Dow /dom for full sets

[midnight furnace]

Oh boi i love this fight but man that sucks XD

[daring pine]

ss2 gg

[midnight furnace]

I cant imagine the HORROR that must have been Arcady Night Fever on PF

[remote gate]

ss2 is easy if you're a tank just make sure you didnt burn all your mits early on

[remote gate]

remember the memes marce

[amber fable]

Arcady fever was funny

[midnight furnace]

Actually wait

I CAN

[amber fable]

We cleared with 19dds

Lmao

[daring pine]

fuck

[pine holly]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

[daring pine]

lets dance remix

💔

[midnight furnace]

Cause i got very MAD at someone who was wanting me to just go and pull while i was trying to explain placements

[remote gate]

held marces hand at quarter beats

[daring pine]

you did

[midnight furnace]

Holy hell thats what killed PF for me

[amber fable]

Floor 1 is usually..not bad

Provided you dont wait till weekend

Then its a trouble

[low hearth]

M5s was crazy

[remote gate]

then marce got too close to me one time dor eight beats and ruined my parse

[midnight furnace]

M5S is by far the hardest of the 3

[low hearth]

👉 🐸

[midnight furnace]

At least in my opinion

Its also my favorite XD

[daring pine]

bro

[amber fable]

M9 is harder

[daring pine]

im eating u

[worn bluff]

are m11s weapons hard? watching this streamer do enrage PF and people are dying to them every other pull

[amber fable]

But its like saying 5 is bigger than 4

[low hearth]

No

[remote gate]

like how you ate my parse

[low hearth]

Just memes

[worn bluff]

so they just have agents in their party

[midnight furnace]

Really? I also had a lot of pain this week but i think M5 would be hell in PF

[amber fable]

Nah

[low hearth]

It’s just like the normal mode bro

[remote gate]

ngl idk if ill have the skill to do m12s that shit looks like some iceberg level mechanics

[midnight furnace]

Which Phase?

[amber fable]

M12sp2

[midnight furnace]

Heard M1S Gate aint that bad

[remote gate]

p2

[amber fable]

Its puzzle mechs

[midnight furnace]

But M12S Phase 2 is gigabrain level

[amber fable]

Its one of those looks hard

But once you know

It aint so complex

[midnight furnace]

For me first floor wise is M5S > M9S > M1S

[amber fable]

I watched some guides early part and its basically remember this and go there shit

[remote gate]

i have terrible short term memory

[clear plume]

idk idyllic is a demanding mech

saying its an easy fight is kind of something i disagree with heavily

[midnight furnace]

I liked M1S mechs like Mouser and the Protheans, but it wasnt much harder for me tank wise other than the last 2 mins where if i fuck up i wipe the raid XD

[midnight furnace]

Hum i kinda agree yeah

M4S is my favorite fight in this game

Ill never forget it

[clear plume]

12-1 is a nothing of a fight

that shit is easier than 9 if its damage was lower

[midnight furnace]

It does seen like the most difficult mech is Coil

[clear plume]

never had a doorboss that on second clears are taking 2 pulls to get back to p2

[shy obsidian]

MARCIEEEEE

SAVAGE WITH MEEEEEE

PLEASEEEE

[midnight furnace]

Maybe they backloaded the fight so much in P2 they made the gate easier

[clear plume]

coil also like

isnt a difficult mech

for a final floor

[midnight furnace]

This is very different compared to the horror stories i heard about P8S

Where all 2 phases are hell

[amber fable]

P8sp1 was easier still

In pf atleast

P2 was ..okay we will eventually clear it

[clear plume]

week 1 p8p1 was way harder bc static snakes didnt exist

[midnight furnace]

Even with the Dreaded snake prios?

[clear plume]

snakes 2 was EGREGIOUS on week 1

[amber fable]

Snake 2 week 1 ...yeah I can see it

Static snakes made it pretty simple

[midnight furnace]

Part of me wishes i tried Abyssos Harder back then but i was very worried of fucking up back then so i gave up when i was trying M5S

I was also a DRK Tank so... XD

[amber fable]

Abyssos was when I started raiding

Weps were worth it

[worn bluff]

they keep enraging and it's mostly bc of deaths/DDs in the first half

why people no just play it safe

[midnight furnace]

I started on Asphodelos

Some of the best PF time i had

Man Hippokampus was FUN

Sadly i didnt beat P3 or P4

But i didnt really get excited with those fights

[amber fable]

I had more trouble in p4s role call compared to p8s na or hc

[midnight furnace]

Is M8S that hard actually?

[clear plume]

It’s still trying btw kekw

[midnight furnace]

I admit i didnt do it but i feel like M4S looked harder

[amber fable]

Woops my brain goes m

[dense oxide]

M4S was an EX trial

[clear plume]

8s wasn’t particularly hard, just very fast

[amber fable]

M4s was easy overall

[midnight furnace]

Yeah i dont deny

Specially part 2

[clear plume]

If you’re capable of fast dodges it was pretty good to clear but some people struggled

[stray forge]

why is a jenova party

pfing in primal

wth

[amber fable]

M8sp1 was fast paced

[stray forge]

nothing makes sense anymore

[clear plume]

One member locked out of aether I’d assume

[midnight furnace]

But Witch Hunt and Electrope Edge and Sunrise Sabbath were still a pain

[amber fable]

Millennium decay was a wall for me

Everything else was relatively smoother

[midnight furnace]

Oh god Sunrise Sabbath

Man that was a pain XD

[amber fable]

Didnt clear the fight so I dunno how p2 was

You skipped sunrise

[tulip anvil]

Hello friends

[amber fable]

That was the strat

[tulip anvil]

I have an important question

[robust shoal]

M4S my beloved

[midnight furnace]

Back then i didnt manage XD

[robust shoal]

I miss it so much

[midnight furnace]

But it is skippable yeah

[true beacon]

P10S my beloved

[midnight furnace]

Man i love M4S

[tulip anvil]

Is the firesnaking and water snaking debuffs actually proximity based

[clear plume]

Yes

[midnight furnace]

My finest memories as a tank in that fight

[clear plume]

Random which you’ll get, but the groups can be consistent

[amber fable]

Thats why you split light parties

[tulip anvil]

I was standing as far away from deep blue as possible and still got tethered to deep blue

[amber fable]

During snaking

[stray forge]

there was a part of me that wasn't sure if you actually play this game dender

[amber fable]

So you get 4/4 debuff

[stray forge]

your presence is of a cryptid on the ffxiv discord server

[amber fable]

Debuff is random

Btw

[midnight furnace]

Gotta love the fact that we have a mech called snake in M10 lol

[amber fable]

Fire group can get blue

[midnight furnace]

Thankfully not prios

[amber fable]

Its not fixed

[tulip anvil]

I play the game plenty

[clear plume]

It’s not always closest to blue gets blue debuff, but the 4 closest to them will get the SAME debuff

[tulip anvil]

Alright that helps a lot, thanks

[amber fable]

Lp split just means debuff count is same

[thin fox]

just another day in the duty finder

most insane bullshti i have ever seen in my life

i have to clip this

[trim frost]

my god it is like night and day trying to get uptime as ot instead of mt in trophy weapons

[midnight furnace]

Im still confused by that Necron mech lol

[thin fox]

this is normal btw

[midnight furnace]

I know but its still confusing lol

Btw what you guys think about Doomtrain?

Very fun fight but i guess im already used to savage stuff now cause it felt very easy

[thin fox]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxTLG3u5WICF_h8gI8w7K9ujQAXMsUDrs4?si=lMSAYBg8FplDD3zq

udude

look at this shit

[midnight furnace]

(Easier than 7.0 extremes even)

[thin fox]

tell me that isnt the dumbest bullshit youve ever seen

[midnight furnace]

Let me check

[midnight furnace]

And yet again... for some reason tanks always fuck stuff up like this XD

[thin fox]

I didnt even register what had happened until I noticed the tank was out of the arena but still alive

[midnight furnace]

(I can say this cause im a tank main usually XD so i fuck up too!)

[thin fox]

@dull drum

[midnight furnace]

Thats cause that mech actually doesnt kill you

[thin fox]

I know what it does

I just mean I didnt realise thats how the tank fucked it

[midnight furnace]

it throws you into the shadow realm instead

[thin fox]

I thought they had just walked across

[midnight furnace]

Sorry had to say it XD

[midnight furnace]

Surprisingly that giant hand kinda hard to see with the background so dark blue

[stiff sage]

i like how i had to make my own pf for m10s threatening to block and remove anyone who didnt know past snake to actually successfully prog split

[low hearth]

Orbital omen lowkey hard ngl

👉 🔽

[pale blade]

OH MY GOD

not only did I do Snaking cleanup, I managed to clean up Deep Aerial and reach the arena split as a prog point

the best part was that the PF I was in was extremely consistent during Snaking

it was like minor things that needed cleared during that (bait tankbuster for one)

[midnight furnace]

Sometimes a bit of a gatekeep is needed, kinda learned recently

Mine was that people should already be able to do Vamp Stomp and Adds 2 relativelly well before joining

(M9S wise of course)

[shy obsidian]

I keep getting buzzsawed even after I figure out the patterns lol

[midnight furnace]

Ah that one i dont blame

Cause the Buzzsaws suck