#endgame-lounge

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mossy eagle
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Why haven't you cleared yet

remote gate
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btw chat remember to turn off your ad blocker when watching hector vids

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our goat needs that YouTube money

mossy eagle
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He's fine he's a teacher. Teachers make lots of money /s

normal summit
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Nah, keep em on.

remote gate
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😔

fierce matrix
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.

zealous meteor
manic nimbus
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So real

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Anytime it’s not on I’m like ew this is gross and disgusting

zealous meteor
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but this is like asking me to go out into pouring rain with just a shirt

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no thanks

rain geode
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oh well in that case im gonna get lunch because for the other reason of being hungry, If youll indulge my curiousity did you put Healers or Tanks in the bubble (or just included both)

normal summit
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healers recommended. Explained that you can put anyone in, just don't put dragoons or warriors or they'll mald

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my group did shield healer/caster originally but swapped to both healers for extra rez potential when a melee greeds

kind elm
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also summoner loses ifrit dash AnaGiggle

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its very funny

rain geode
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I was curious if there was any reason you couldn't stick to diff roles in the bubble

normal summit
zealous meteor
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warriors deserve to mald i think

kind elm
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MY HERO

random needle
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Ah, it shuts down movement skills when you're inside then?

kind elm
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🗣️ 🔥

random needle
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My Corps-a-corps PensiveCowboy

manic nimbus
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I’m a idiot half the time and think the healer bubble is part of the fight and I can’t leave the area cause I play zoomed in rather than full zoomed out

sinful brook
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Fwiw pingpong would have been a hilarious name for parallel aerial

kind elm
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that is its name

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the raidplan is lidolly called "pingpong"

loud nymph
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shame there's no lesbian can opener strat in m9s

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missed opportunity

kind elm
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its ok, that lesbian can open my can

sinful brook
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You're telling me a lesbean opened that can?!

low hearth
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m11s lowkey peak

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🤔

worn bluff
random needle
low hearth
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Ultimate Trophy Weapons

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GIGACOOKED 👉🏿 reaper

loud nymph
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she even has the toxic yuri with honey b

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it's perfect

jagged aspen
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theres no way to get universal tomestone besides m10s and 7 weeks of normal?

alpine plover
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indeed

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4 runs of m12n later in the tier when normal mode gets unlocked

jagged aspen
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well thats ages away

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i got solvent but cant use it 😂

rain geode
stray forge
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should i be doing normals weekly for the weapon token

odd beacon
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LET ME OUT

stray forge
rain geode
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I mean its one run of M12N a week its not that bad

stray forge
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lindwurm is the only one that drops green boi right

rain geode
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Let's go get lunch
Procedes to not get lunch

scarlet lintel
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uh

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m12s raidplan is....

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111 slides...?

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i am

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scared

loud nymph
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Hector vid gonna be 45 minutes long for each phase

scarlet lintel
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well

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4 days

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surely this fight cant be more than 30-40 hours of prog

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surely

craggy marsh
zealous meteor
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my ass is never clearing m12s

sick reef
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what would yall classify as a hardcore static?

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from what ive seen, pentamelds and food/pots are like a common expectation for every type of static this early on right?

dull drum
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yes

scarlet lintel
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i thought pentamelding is only for week 1 statics

worn bluff
loud nymph
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Pentamelds are an expectation for statics aiming to clear in the first few weeks

scarlet lintel
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like week 5?

loud nymph
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If you're not aiming for that, they should not be an expectation

worn bluff
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food/pots are an expectation in basically any current savage fight

daring pine
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food/pots are bare minimum

loud nymph
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food/pots are an expectation for any group in high end content

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regardless of how hardcore they are

worn bluff
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if you're not aiming for week 1, at a minimum do your guaranteed melds, and i would say at least grab cheap IX/X materia for overmelds

low hearth
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main tanking m11s is so ass 😭

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u just gotta pop sprint and pray when its scythe GIGACOOKED

remote gate
low hearth
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no

low hearth
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u gotta run fast asf boss relative north when its the scythe protean

remote gate
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vamp does 75k autos with eight stacks that shit has to be mit

worn bluff
low hearth
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mb

sick reef
# dull drum yes

the only diff between hardcore n midcores would be how much time per day/week right

low hearth
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i only mit autos when im about to die

rapid whale
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midcore is such a wide concept that it is basically meaningless imho

worn bluff
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deep blue autoing you before his model even shows up on screen the first time

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rude

remote gate
remote gate
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when saws cover the screen it gets messy to see in 9s

worn bluff
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i saw someone advertise a midcore static that was doing like 4 hours a week

loud nymph
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"midcore" is like Schrödinger's static

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it means different things to anyone who reads it

craggy marsh
loud nymph
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and as soon as you examine it fully it implodes completely

worn bluff
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when someone says midcore static they just mean "we want good players to apply"

scarlet lintel
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i got used to doing it withotu sprint tho

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only need it now if im not paying attention

rapid whale
jolly flume
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spread into scythe is actually impossible content

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ngl

craggy marsh
rapid whale
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oic

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have fun

craggy marsh
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But pf prog went okie

dull drum
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me and bapple are having a swell time in the static

remote gate
rapid whale
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heck ya

remote gate
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specifically surviving from aetherletting to ss2 because healing becomes scarce at that point

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every pf healer we've had just falls apart at that point

worn bluff
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i cleared m9 but i still don't really know where half my mits go because i only have like 20 something pulls total

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basically fresh

remote gate
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@craggy marsh do you think we should specifically use invuls at the start of ss2 since its so chaotic for the first 10 seconds

kind elm
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making shit up fr after like 19 pull clear

worn bluff
odd beacon
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11 is so boring

remote gate
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i think we'll clear this weekend

kind elm
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im gonna go in next week like "wait what the fuck is a bat"

odd beacon
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i miss 10

worn bluff
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should i mit these autos? idk when the next tank stuff is. i'll hold it til m10

odd beacon
low hearth
dull drum
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in the middle sure though

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because theres a raidwide that drops during towers as well somewhere in that timeframe

craggy marsh
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But im okay with doing the mech too since melee players need to learn that they arent special princesses

jolly flume
worn bluff
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the uptime spot is here so it belongs to me now

remote gate
# dull drum i would say no to the start

should we use a heavy then for the first tower? our issue is that healing becomes super scarce at the start and then it falls apart. both of our heavy mits provide some form of self sustain

dull drum
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i think i had rampart up

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used that bc it gives healing bonus

low hearth
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u dont really gotta invuln anything in m9s

dull drum
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cant really speak for myself though because gnb has decent forms of self healing

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aurora + hoc

remote gate
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drk cant relate

low hearth
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drk self heal GIGACOOKED

scarlet lintel
craggy marsh
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Not needing to invuln in m9 is nice bc then you can just invuln whatever mech you want

remote gate
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me about to invul bats and kill my melee

low hearth
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i guess u could invuln the dumb bat stuff or the last buster

worn bluff
low hearth
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i never used mine no cap

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or the second add phase but u can mit those with short stuff

remote gate
worn bluff
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depends on what you used after aetherletting i guess

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if you use 40% for it, earliest it's back up is the third tower

remote gate
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hmm okay

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ill need to sit down and look at a time line for that part then

worn bluff
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tbh the hardcore TBs nothing is really going on

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so PF healer will give you more attention anyways

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i didn't really have an issue just using 20%+short during SS2

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but i had good healers not randoms

low hearth
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man what is ss2

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cleared so fast i dont remember nothing

visual geyser
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It’s the add phase

low hearth
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oh with the crazy towers and nails

visual geyser
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Ye

sinful brook
sly basin
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from twitter, amazing

random needle
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"we gotta dissect you bro" is an all timer

boreal pumice
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what a line

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but holy moly i would kicked that guy

mortal garnet
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1st floor of any tier often have that type of fella

loud nymph
stray forge
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We gotta dissect you bro hyperlmfao

remote gate
# sly basin

im sorry i spent all my gil on limsa egirls all i could afford was the 750 tome gear

worn bluff
mortal garnet
wicked delta
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But like

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How…

remote gate
worn bluff
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i had a cotank yesterday in M10S that didn't rep anything at all

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like i was able to cover most stuff for first half of fight

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but i was like hey can you rep this thing and he was like sure

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like he never thought about hitting reprisal before that moment

mossy eagle
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FFlogs is borked again. Quick post your 100s

remote gate
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just make the healers extra heal the raid wide duh

remote gate
# mossy eagle

@craggy marsh we clear 9s tonight for 100 parse not for gear

mossy eagle
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If your median doesn't lool like this I don't want you in my party

wicked delta
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I think maybe he was like

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Oh other tank got it

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And didn’t wanna overwrite ur rep

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Like its still stupid but yk

remote gate
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tbf rep order in pf is MT > OT > MT > OT

wicked delta
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Nobody in early floors gives a shit about that

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I play with too many MTs who don’t rep

dull drum
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i rep mb i guess

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whenever i hear a tank say i can only ot or mt i just roll my eyes

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its not that deep

wicked delta
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Just use eyes

remote gate
worn bluff
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then healers hate you

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that's like the first main raidwide that you can't cover if you've been repping all the diver's dare up til then

jolly flume
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as long as we don't get ohk by the cast i'm fine

random needle
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I feel like if you're doing PF, it's at minimum common courtesy to learn both positions in your role (and maybe learning to fake melee if you're a caster), but obviously the bar is in hell for pugs so

jolly flume
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I just macrocosmos that

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bc star doesn't reach the corner positions if people position too fast

remote gate
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is macrocosmos basically a raidwide bene when used after a few nasty hits?

jolly flume
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kinda

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I rarely use it on multihits though

worn bluff
rain geode
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I'll be honest I like never bother to learn noth heal positions lol

jolly flume
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it's crazy broken for spread healing when you're out of range if you time it right

worn bluff
dull drum
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even then moving the boss isnt particularly difficult

jolly flume
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like if you macro right as red hot starts dashing across for arena split, the macro naturally expires right after the first protean so people are topped for the second hit

dull drum
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just put the lightning shot in the bag for the team

jolly flume
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so even if they get hit again they live

dull drum
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🥀

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dont get me started on snaking fire jumps i fire off like

dull drum
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hella lightning shots

worn bluff
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i haven't really sorted out my mits in m10 yet

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healers asked for more mit on jumps so i save veil for that

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but then it's not back until middle of deep aerial

jolly flume
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what's wrong with that

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well tbf

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jumps hurt a little bit but you have a lot of time to heal

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personally I think it's better right between spreads and cutback but that's just me

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and middle of deep aerial is a pretty good veil spot

zealous meteor
worn bluff
odd beacon
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clear party

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neither melee lbs after meteor gapcloser

remote gate
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does elounge agree

zealous meteor
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what are we ranking here

clear plume
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i dont agree with like most of that

zealous meteor
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fights? aura? music?

loud nymph
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black cat in A tier is crazy

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wait no

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That's wicked thunder

random needle
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Yeah I'm genuinely not sure what's being ranked on this

loud nymph
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brute bomber above black cat is crazy tho

stray forge
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How many ppl did the honey b lovely theme drive insane

zealous meteor
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normal is peak though

random needle
rapid whale
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surely you win

random needle
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On the bright side for me specifically, the fight looks pretty straightforward on caster

rapid whale
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everything is smile

random needle
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I think the first mechanic that isn't just "sheep others" or "stand and let resolve" is HiaC

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Though I do get to stay on my toes because rez mage mewpaissa

rapid whale
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rdm fantastic this tier

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does great dmg and tons of util

scarlet lintel
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my dsr static stopped at the end of p6 bc the savage tier started

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now i have to pf the rest o the fight DehyaFALLEN

remote gate
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i like posting tier lists in this chat with no context

rain geode
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I like tier lists

random needle
remote gate
scarlet lintel
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ill probably merc a party bc im used to callouts and im ont entirely sure of pf stuff and i dont wanna bother people nor do i wont to join below my prog point

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like 2m for lockout and 3m for clear

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im a bit worreid aobut tanking p7 properly though

low hearth
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dont eat an exa

random needle
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Hmmm, I haven't tanked the fight but I did hear most of the important stuff from other people complaining though

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Make sure the boss is pointed due north/south for exas, PF completely falls apart if he's not centered
Don't forget to mitigate
Make sure to respect the in/out first for each mechanic
Don't forget to mitigate
Remember your tank swaps between each mechanic so you don't get more than 2 vulns
Don't forget to mitigate
Do not hesitate when it's time to take your solo Akh Morn towers, if you're not in it's gg
Don't forget to mitigate

scarlet lintel
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lmao

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so if u die it's fucked, got it. that's how most final ultimate phases are as far as i see anyway

random needle
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It's pretty rough if a tank goes down, but it may still be recoverable if the healers are quick on their feet

scarlet lintel
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hopefully i clear this tier week 1 then ill just go for it ig. i rly dont wanna leave it unfinished since im so close anyway. i also did ucob with the same static but im too scared to be a merc for it bc a lot of mechanics im reliant on callouts. so at least if i finish dsr in pf it can be another source of gil

shy obsidian
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so how hellish is the Tyrant

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everyone makes him sound like he's the reincarnation of Satan with the way he's ruining uptime for healers, lol

olive hearth
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10s down, fuck PF

rapid whale
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how are you meant to uptime this as a caster

random needle
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Grow more sword z_epic

boreal pumice
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melee looking at saph namazuconcern more sytche

loud nymph
uncut pebble
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we are..... chiyo kirk

zealous meteor
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whar

sullen copper
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I haven’t played picto yet how does its casts work

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Is it kinda like RDM where it’s an evenish split between hard/instant casts?

loud nymph
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it's mostly hard casts

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but you get a couple instants you can use for movement

sullen copper
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So closer to black mage then

loud nymph
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some hard casts are quick and do less damage some are slower and do more

sullen copper
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I played a fair bit of black mage in late Endwalker but I haven’t really played the Dawntrail version

loud nymph
sullen copper
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I’m sure I’d like DT black mage well enough but the internet told me it was for gay babies now so I haven’t been super motivated

loud nymph
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PCT has hammer combo and uh

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Comet

random needle
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Technically also Holy but it's a loss in single target, so

loud nymph
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yeah

rain geode
random needle
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I personally prefer BLM for being able to slot my Triplecasts and such basically anywhere

loud nymph
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BLM definitely has more tools for movement imo, between double triplecast, Xeno, instant despair, thunder, paradox

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PCT is more limited, if you need a lot of on demand movement you can hammer combo into a bunch of holy spam but holy is sorta....bad in single target

random needle
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I've also started really enjoying how it feels on RDM too though

sinful brook
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rdm ngl feels way better now with manafic changes

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your "odd minute" combo is still melee but you can reasonably shift that out of movement if you need to now

random needle
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Not sure what the time on the latter two fights this tier are, but since the first two fights are both right around 10m, I can keep manafic basically aligned with Embolden without worrying about losing a use

loud nymph
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I haven't mained rdm in high end since Abyssos but ngl being unable to do 2s from range and caster HP + physical raidwides in p8s made it so awful

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it is probably a lot better now

random needle
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I've been having a ton of fun with it even just focusing on getting it leveled, I think progging on it will be fun

loud nymph
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It's really my preferred job for daily roulettes

random needle
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Depending on my mood/what the fights are like, there's a chance I'll reclear with it instead of BLM too, but we'll see how it goes

loud nymph
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Just because it's comfy

sleek moon
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im gonna try this tier on rdm

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going double caster with a picto

sullen copper
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Like what do I do when manafication comes off cd 30 seconds before embolden

random needle
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For fights with unknown killtime, I think you usually want to just send off cooldown so you don't miss a use

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If you do know the killtime, you can let it drift for alignment as long as you're not losing a use

sinful brook
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yeah just uh

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use aligned with embolden now unless a mech calls for it imo

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the only damage benefit manafic is giving rn is the free extra melee combo

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so holding it for buffs imo tends to be less bad

finite plank
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which fight is this?

random needle
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I think we're just talking RDM in general

sinful brook
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but ofc if you lose a use you lose a whole melee combo so on longer fights it might still be a use on cd thing

daring pine
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only downside to rdm change is not being able to hold prefulgence as long

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since you get it immediately after pressing the button

random needle
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If I understand everything alright, you can just keep manafic and Embolden aligned for both m9 and m10 without worrying about losing a use

daring pine
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and not after spending your stacks (which don’t exist anymore)

finite plank
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m9, no risk

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m10s, there's an option to use manafic on cd similar to tcj for jail

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but keep 2m till jail's over

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preferably, it's not needed

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expect to use it if someone dies

daring pine
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hi channy

sinful brook
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you don't really benefit there because you should probably hold buffs anyways

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and the 2 target cleave from like 9 finishers potentially is nasty

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sup marce

finite plank
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there's no benefit for spending it but there to secure jails actually dead helps when someone's pepega

daring pine
finite plank
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or just use your gauge

daring pine
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work exhausting

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only 28m left

finite plank
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i hope you have gauge

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the only thing i hold if such a fuck up would happen was tenrijindo

random needle
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It's kinda exciting learning a job that has some intricacy to burst beyond "press leylines if you can and press Xeno like 4 times"

sinful brook
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the thing about that is that you still don't have to press manafic

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its just starting the combo on time

random needle
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Yeah

sinful brook
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and this is why i've always liked rdm as my preferred caster but some tiers were awful to play with it

thin fox
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haven't finished 11 or 12 yet so

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oh i forgot 7

loud nymph
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it's ok it's C at best

thin fox
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probably top of B for me actually

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i missed it because its a harder to see image

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brute abominator is kind of just deceptively simple for me

random needle
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Is this for music or fight design

thin fox
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fights

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if it was just music Id put 11 and 12 in there too

loud nymph
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I haven't done m10s yet but mostly agree with this, I'm ranking m7s lower though because it's garbage

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6 and 8 were both banger fights

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even if 8 had a very disappointing phase 2

daring pine
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fuck m7s

loud nymph
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7 has like no mechanics until DD and then you get to DD and everyone dies

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and then you do the 7 minutes before DD again

worn bluff
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@jolly flume i realized going into the m10s fire gives you a big bleed for 15s... is it dumb if i still run into the fire to invuln the water TB and then use my 40% when it wears off bcaGuiltySweat

loud nymph
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it's the same problem p7s had

thin fox
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you think m7s is simple and then youre in week 13 and still hitting enrage

worn bluff
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people were saying M10S has the P7S problem of being backloaded, which i get but also... i still find M10S fun at least

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i don't mind doing the beginning parts of M10S because it's a silly goofy fight

loud nymph
trim frost
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i feel like a lot of people say “backloaded” when there just happens to be a moderately difficult mechanic placed at the end instead of 3 minutes of repeat shit

worn bluff
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i guess i don't think being backloaded is inherently a problem on its own

trim frost
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mm

worn bluff
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P7S was a problem because it just put you to sleep for a while

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and the theme was whatever

finite plank
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the only thing i dislike about m10s is the arena split alley loop proteans.

this is the last hard part about the fight

trim frost
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yeah p7s mechs were boring as fuck

vestal hollow
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p7s wouldve been better if the harvests were spread out across the whole fight and had longer mechanics

trim frost
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literally ten variations of the same mechanic

vestal hollow
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there was also a harvest missing

true beacon
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Yeah the harvests being back to back to back is kinda

worn bluff
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the annoying thing so far about M10S for me is the boss becoming untargetable for 0.5s each surf in insane air

finite plank
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the rest of the fight about m10s past arena split is reasonably easy

worn bluff
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just leave them targetable man

trim frost
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oh

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is that the thing chiyo was talking about

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where they moved and it interrupted casts

worn bluff
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yeah they just become untargetable briefly

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idk why they designed it that way

trim frost
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that feels weird

finite plank
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that thing? that's the source of people having 10% less uptime according to xiva

worn bluff
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you can't really greed it much because sometimes it's during when your GCD comes up

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and you just clip

trim frost
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yeah…

finite plank
true beacon
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That was P6S

loud nymph
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yeah, even though cachexia 2 was never hard to solve

true beacon
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With Cachexia 2

loud nymph
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"just tank lb it lol"

finite plank
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depending on angle, you can hit it with range, depending on angle, it is an absolute pain where they literally snake so much, i can't cast a mudra as it kept failing to fully go through for 2 seconds

finite plank
loud nymph
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yeah true enough

finite plank
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a few weeks later anyways...

true beacon
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I mean the boss was almost dead by then

loud nymph
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kinda wild that they made a mechanic like that skippable lmao

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not only skippable but like

trim frost
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puzzle mechs that boil down to stand here to win aren't the worst thing in the world but when the entire fight is just that i feel nothing

loud nymph
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almost guaranteed to be skipped after a couple weeks of gear

worn bluff
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i once had a tank yell at me for not DPS LBing cach 2 to kill the boss and making him tank LB

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i think he just wanted his parse

true beacon
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looks at Letter of the Law

worn bluff
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boss was like 3% idk if it was going to kill before it resolved

true beacon
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Same with Superchain 2B

finite plank
loud nymph
thin fox
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hmm

loud nymph
true beacon
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Harvests

finite plank
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black cat's raining cats being skippable week 1

loud nymph
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raining cats OMEGALUL

finite plank
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reasonable since it's a floor 1 boss, somewhat

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plus it's the first tier as well

thin fox
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god the pf dance of domination strat is so fucking stupid

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why are you finding a new north on a fast mechanic

true beacon
thin fox
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i feel like an actual degen when i see a super abstract diagram and can still identify the mechanic LOL

random needle
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What mechanic is .:|:;

zealous meteor
sleek moon
jolly flume
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ive only seen it contribute to a death when we had like almost no mit on the raidwide after and a squishy took the bleed

thin fox
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you can take the fire raw on tanks and it doesnt even hurt that much

vestal hollow
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you can take WHAT raw

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?

worn bluff
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and i don't think i need the 40% for anything else for a while

whole estuary
worn bluff
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bcaGuiltySweat @jolly flume

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are you sure i don't need to 40%

low hearth
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I use short mits

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It’s chill I think as long as your healers aren’t sleeping I guess

worn bluff
#

invuln is supposed to cover at least half of the 15s but i tend to pop it early before the TB so i don't forget

#

so it really ends up only covering like 5s of the burn

jolly flume
#

idk I've never had issues with my melees taking them

#

but we actually like

#

heal them

worn bluff
#

it's just that like

#

the fire team never makes an actual cone with room to run

#

so i just defaulted to assuming i'm going into the fire

wicked delta
# worn bluff

Yo im fucking illiterate it took me 3 times to realize it doesn’t say everything burns

low hearth
#

Damn I ain’t know they added the Garnet outfit wtf

wicked delta
#

Was added today

low hearth
#

chills

wicked delta
#

Looks awk on male chars tho

rain geode
#

Man snaking is such a headache

low hearth
rain geode
#

Yeah

low hearth
#

GIGACOOKED 👉 scholar

shy obsidian
#

seal rock is fucking ass HOW DO PEOPLE LIKE THIS

#

IF YOU'RE ON THE MAELSTROM TEAM YOU'RE MEGA DOOMED

#

ALL THE NODES NEAR YOU HAVE NO ELEVATION, SO YOU'RE ALWAYS BEING CONTESTED FROM MULTIPLE ANGLES AAAA

loud nymph
#

onsal hakair is the only good frontline map

trim frost
#

q.

#

is sickest takeoff 2 (arena split wave resolve) always LP

inner apex
#

No it can be spreads sometimes

trim frost
#

that seems kinda evil

thin fox
#

I dont think thats true?

#

Im pretty sure its always party

trim frost
#

you'd think people would try to put fire stacks super close up to the wall if it's spreads

#

and i personally haven't seen spreads yet in any video or my own pulls so that's why i was wondering

thin fox
#

does anyone have raidplan for kindred split arena in m11s

#

oh my god bro what is this fucking strat

#

this looks awful

robust shoal
#

people should do bugged tether strats nodders

jolly flume
#

it's basically just uptime sunrise again but you pray your party has the right markers because there's at least 3 sets of microscopically different markers floating around

jolly flume
jagged aspen
worn bluff
#

the raidplan just says take party stack, so i think it's always party

jagged aspen
#

but raidplan has pf friendly strat for ppl that want to afk

#

arena split is always stack yes

#

oh you were talking abput split the whole time, not watersnaking

true beacon
trim frost
thin fox
#

it absolutely cannot be spread lol

clear plume
#

5% enrage on 12s-2 prayge

#

soonge

#

its tower mech is

#

brutal

worn bluff
#

first time i've seen someone not like parallel tether

random needle
#

How much time do you have to move the tethers?

kind elm
#

but what if my eyes tell me "i should do paralell here"

#

like will this guy just kick you if you make them parallel

finite plank
worn bluff
finite plank
#

there will always be a 4 stack that's either on all supports or dps, but that one still has space before the big wave into always lp

#

and even then, it is possible to live that 4 stack solo with enough mit as non tank

thin fox
#

parallel tethers is a rare strat with only upsides so ofc people hate it

#

what do you do here if right side tank+healer gets a tether

#

"buddy" who tf is the buddy ICANT

finite plank
#

basically lineup adjust i assume

#

although

jolly flume
#

that's a conga line

#

?

finite plank
#

i do hate that it's not a fixed HTMR or similar

jolly flume
#

just

#

obey the conga

terse zodiac
#

with 4 seconds extra downtime and caster generally doing more damage, which is even better for 2 target? still caster for the little extra?

mossy eagle
#

Hector strat without there even being a Hector guide is 5head

finite plank
#

i'd say either prange lb or caster lb

#

idk, caster's easier to hit while prange is better if the prange has no more button to press

boreal pumice
zealous meteor
#

no no, look, clearly there's a hector guide

terse zodiac
deft yarrow
#

mitosis

worn bluff
terse zodiac
#

dnc takes 8 seconds but does less damage but also dnc just does less damage for that cast time, idk how it would compare

clear plume
terse zodiac
#

got it o7 ty

clear plume
#

asterisk of rdm specifically if they lose a gauge window in the fight its probably prange better at that point, havent done math on it but id do it for feelsgood anyways bc it would be close

zealous meteor
#

red mages legally have to use LB3 when they can though

finite plank
#

im leaning towards dncer or brd especially when they run out of buttons to press for a moment

clear plume
#

nah, dnc filler isnt that bad bc you have to replace the part of its filler for the math where extra procs get spent

finite plank
#

reason why nins are frequent lb users would be they literally have nothing else to press outside of burst besides ninki gauge

#

so in this case between blm and dncer.... who has the worse filler?

clear plume
#

i think youre underestimating the damage difference between the lbs

#

caster does more lb scaled damage, which means it has to be that much BETTER during filler that it makes up for that

#

which just isnt the case

mossy eagle
#

does the TB at the end of snaking that Blue boss does have a KB?

clear plume
#

yes, every blue guy jump needs knockback resist

#

(doesnt need, but recommended)

kind elm
#

ive been getting pretty good at shadowstride canceling it

#

usually cuz i forget ot arms length

worn bluff
#

i kb resist it anyways and then do the dash cancel

finite plank
#

why the fuck is it so hard to find the potency numbers of caster and physical limit break online

#

all it shows is 0.9x something

clear plume
#

bc its not potency based

clear plume
#

it scales on average weapon level of the party

worn bluff
#

wol taught me

clear plume
sleek moon
#

We used to follow potency stuff, then turned out to be very wrong

finite plank
#

ok, so how much is a slight difference

#

forget it, im not gonna figure out slight anyways, just make whoever claims to have run out of resources to dump near the end of the fight to lb

#

make the caster lb, i dont play caster enough to know what happens in 9:55+

thin fox
#

now cleared on alt too

#

can't complain

sleek moon
#

the whole "caster does 0.6x of melee lb, ranged does 0.9x of caster lb" is the only relative you need

#

meaning for single target its always going to be melee

#

for 2 targets its... complicated

#

ranged is weaker than caster but it's also shorter

thin fox
#

yaaaay Ill take it

thin fox
finite plank
#

damn right, cleared that shit with tank lb3 and a dead dncer that was unavoidable due to incidents and no one used lb1 to kill 14 seconds before enrage

dull drum
#

"i only know how to m2"

finite plank
#

least they admit to it

#

before more incidents occur

thin fox
#

i legit just take w.e dps position is open LOL

dull drum
#

the amount of plds ive seen that only know how to OT make me sick too

#

i do both cause the reality is no one wants to MT

#

if i get an OT spot its like a privilege

random needle
#

Easiest swap of my life, I think BLM has it even easier as fake melee than as caster

thin fox
#

there's a lot of fights where black mage benefits from fake melee

#

cuz you're often not moving a lot as a result

#

TEA p2 is giga busted as BLM fake melee

#

you just afk

rapid whale
#

everything is blm relative

rain geode
#

Man Im glad we seemed to have decided for whatever reason regen is H1 and barrier is H2 so I never have to learn another spot, until I do anyway.

torn kindle
#

Anyone know which raid plan/strat for M11S is Kindred No Buddies?

rapid whale
#

tf but with kindred markers

torn kindle
#

👍

limpid edge
#

im standing

worn bluff
#

watching streamer do m10s clear party

#

makes me feel better about my parties

#

they keep wiping on random stuff in the first half of the fight

#

their snaking looks worse than what i've seen snaking prog parties do

low hearth
#

Damn

low hearth
worn bluff
#

yeah this is PF

boreal pumice
worn bluff
#

no i'm progging m10 despairge but makes me feel better that i can at least do the mechanics

boreal pumice
#

gotta take your Ws where you can get em

worn bluff
#

my issue is thinking i'm not ready for later prog parties so i keep joining cleanup

#

even though i've seen arena split a few times i haven't joined any of those parties

#

this clear party is wiping to like.. the first mechanic or insane aerial 1

boreal pumice
#

i say do a mix because as you say your already confident in your abilty to do the mechs and you do need to get more prog in the later ones

worn bluff
#

i think for me it's like

#

i'm dropping like 5 GCDs towards end of snaking trying to position boss and getting ready for buster

#

and to me that's pretty bad so i'm like "i'm not ready to move on"

#

like i'm not wiping the party i just don't feel comfy

boreal pumice
#

fair enough but i do think your being held back abit by the group to get more prog in , like your seeing enrage then you can yeah me dropping them gcds is the reason

worn bluff
#

i think it's bc my last tier was LHW and i never stopped rolling my GCD even in prog, because it was easier

#

so to drop 5 GCDs in a pull feels really bad

#

(i was also RPR back then so it was easier in general)

rain geode
#

Im defo not hitting my goal of M10S done week one

shy obsidian
#

yeah uhhhhhh

#

i dunno what to think

#

a bit too tight on the guys

zealous meteor
#

no such thing

sinful brook
#

erm

#

is this the oompa loompa suit they just released

granite stag
#

I only know her in her white mage outfit.

proper cave
granite stag
#

So I don't even relate that outfit to the character.

boreal pumice
limpid edge
#

im standing

low hearth
rapid whale
#

square enix and their love of belts

boreal pumice
#

i mean we can make this but chest is a store item

low hearth
worn bluff
#

i think my brain forgets fire is targetable at the end

low hearth
#

Like you’ll be in a “<5% enrage checking” party and still wipe to it over and over again

worn bluff
#

when water guy does wave

thin fox
#

oh brother

#

i am the WRONG person to put this on

rain geode
#

I think I mostly have snaking down at this point

low hearth
wicked delta
low hearth
#

You have time to roll a gcd for all the spreads and stuff

rain geode
#

I find myself pressing Ruin II a little to much but I can clean it up later

low hearth
#

Just press ranged gcd for fire baits 💀

limpid edge
#

doggo

worn bluff
dull drum
#

@undone tide pf doesnt greed thank god

#

clear on alt goes back to main right

#

ok yeah it does it says tyrant

#

w

shy obsidian
#

six sevennnnnnn

scarlet lintel
#

m12s is hella mit check innit

#

me when i forget to reprisal and the entire party fucking dies

low hearth
#

This is a guide to the fight Arcadion M10S (The Xtremes, Red Hot and Deep Blue) in the game Final Fantasy XIV. This guide is using the combo of mechanics known in PF as TF/Nomnom/Parallel.

Toxic Friends Raidplan: https://raidplan.io/plan/syjvfhacdxz7awet

Nomnom Raidplan: https://raidplan.io/plan/Cmo_RpCDbsUSMV5c

Parallel Aerial raidplan: htt...

▶ Play video
limpid edge
#

wassup hector

low hearth
#

#HECTORNATION

#

You mess with Hector you mess with us !

rain geode
#

At long last Ill be able to clear

stray forge
#

Or will you

rain geode
#

Me, maybe? PF... No comment.

craggy marsh
#

Hey everyone welcome back to another Hector Lecture guide. Today we're going to be looking at ur mom

quick verge
#

this some #realshit

limpid edge
#

O_O

#

i thought she said game of thrones

random needle
#

Dude e12s has HANDS

wicked delta
#

#HECTORNATION

limpid edge
#

m9s 2 chests are too late now right

remote gate
#

mango and i are clear ready :3

thin fox
thin fox
limpid edge
#

it's too hard!!!!!

boreal pumice
#

I believe in you beemoo

amber fable
#

Oh fuck ...discord chat didnt came down

scarlet lintel
#

me when i play warrior and i didnt reailez the blue boss tb had a knockback

undone tide
#

dark knight who always asks if you can MT as soon as they join the party

mossy eagle
#

Hector is so valid for almost calling them the blowjob brothers

mossy eagle
amber fable
#

drk mt is better tbf...not like it matters

#

if you have pld co tank

gleaming echo
#

Any tips for tyrant arena split?

rapid whale
#

What's troubling you with it

low hearth
echo ibex
sleek moon
thin fox
#

healers when u ask for a single gcd heal after people keep falling over to raidwides cuz theyre at 70% hp

echo ibex
#

Casting a heal: red_cross
Casting a 7s rez after: green_tick

amber fable
#

and drk burst makes aggroing more annoying

mossy eagle
#

Progging M10S is so much fun

#

Trying to clear M10S is hell

terse zodiac
#

ngl i did not understand how reverse alley oop 2nd hits worked exactly until this hector guide

#

makes sense now

terse zodiac
#

true lol

thin fox
#

so many pulls dead to just no heals

#

did we already know that cutback blaze is a 330 degree cone or did hector personally measure it so he could say the number

golden jewel
#

not sure where to put but I got a pf up on crystal for ex2 if any goobers are bored and wanna help me clear uwucarby

rapid whale
#

you see a lot of "tf plus kindred markers" tho for w/e reason

echo ibex
rapid whale
#

theres two major strats, toxic friends and kindred

#

kindred if your side's partner is swapping sides, u always follow

#

for toxic friends, if you do not have a tether, you always stay

#

same result just diff strat

thin tartan
#

ddos?

rapid whale
#

@robust shoal they stole ur whole flow

#

bar for bar word for word

fierce matrix
#

god my clear energy has worn off

#

im ready to pass out

#

but also i need to grind tomes on my alt

#

i hate this game

rapid whale
#

hell yea congrats furen

amber fable
#

no content for next 4 months now /s

pale blade
#

actually a big fan of melees eating shit and tanks having significant responsibilities in M10S

#

I say this as a Monk this tier

stray forge
#

i think u just like being an antagonist

#

its okay i do too

pale blade
#

hwat no

echo ibex
pale blade
#

I actually do like this

#

I do think Endwalker made things way too cozy for tanks so it’s nice that the band-aid got ripped off both in this tier and the last

amber fable
#

tbf even in m10 bosses mostly have pre set posn

#

so you dont actually need to posn that much

#

still gotta eat downtime

pale blade
#

still good enough for me

worn bluff
#

like it's not hard to gapclose to pull the bosses together, but it's always fun

#

and then sometimes you get tanks that give 0 shits above giving people cleave

pale blade
#

lmao

worn bluff
#

i had a cotank that tried to keep the bosses separate as much as possible

pale blade
#

I did hear divided opinions on 11 and 12 (both parts) so I am interested to see what people are talking about when I get there

#

Either way I already had a higher opinion of this raid series overall than Pandæmonium

fierce matrix
#

Ik this may not be 100% accurate but I like the number on our static page

pale blade
#

The Pandæmonium shit-talking will continue until morale improves btw

pale blade
# dapper zealot

have you already made funeral arrangements and when can I pick up your stuff

dapper zealot
#

you mean khloe's funeral

pale blade
#

what no

#

I meant yours

dapper zealot
#

you can have my microfiber cloth

pale blade
#

give me all your gil

dapper zealot
#

I'll give you a goddess totem

#

and some quickarm materia

pale blade
#

I’ll give you a $5 Hot Topic gift card in exchange for your soul

dapper zealot
#

make it a hot pot gift card and deal

jolly flume
#

6 dds

#

god

#

we should've just crit

amber fable
#

fr

pale blade
#

true and real

rapid whale
thin fox
#

brother wtf is 3-1 dodge

pale blade
#

damn I noticed that Themis left again

#

what was the last straw this time

dull drum
#

people confuse it with TF which does 3-1 (it doesnt even matter really)

hushed copper
#

oh my god sinister is a Honey B diss

jolly flume
#

thank god

jolly flume
#

@clear plume how's the check in 12 btw

#

we kind of want to double shield it but sage deeps is straight ass

rapid whale
#

Is sage the new whm lmao

jolly flume
#

I mean it was always pretty bad in comparison to sch

#

it's just more noticeable now because whm got brought somewhat in line with ast esp in short fights

thin fox
#

this should not have taken this long lol

hushed copper
#

ngl Vamp Fatale having Triple Entendres in her theme is the funniest shit ever

thin fox
#

I don't even want the gear piece I won

tulip anvil
#

atleast be happy that you prevented someone else from potentially getting the gear piece that they wanted

dull drum
#

on m11 as well now

thin fox
#

I was already on m11 technically

#

this is my alt

dull drum
#

MY BAD

thin fox
#

ig now I can prog on either

#

kinda pref tank for m11 tho

#

so i can eat a damage down during the mech before meteors

dull drum
#

LMAO

#

orbital

thin fox
#

yeah

#

i know how to do the dodge

#

i don't know the timing

#

so i eat shit

robust shoal
#

you just move when the castbar ends

#

then move back when you see the hit behind you

thin fox
#

ok well i was aiming to get my 9/10 alt clears today and did that so i'm happy

robust shoal
jolly flume
#

I don't really react personally I just

#

move through and immediately back

#

bc the timing is just so fast

#

if its a double dodge pattern

brisk scarab
#

Cleared m9 through PF yippeee!

craggy marsh
thin fox
#

GET ME OUT OF HERE MinionLaughDespair

craggy marsh
low hearth
#

If there ain't a wave to ride, just make one yourself! 🏄🏿‍♂️

trim frost
#

screaming crying throwing up

dapper zealot
low hearth
thin fox
trim frost
dapper zealot
#

think they mean stealthboys

#

fallout

low hearth
#

Novice network gotta be crazy bro

#

I need to unlock that

clear plume
#

door check isnt like hard when clean though

#

its just a short fight so a death matters type beat

jolly flume
#

ic

#

I guess I'll just stay on sage for now and see how often pulls with deaths actually make it to enrage

low hearth
robust shoal
#

p1 enrage is ~7:20

low hearth
#

o

brisk scarab
#

Still new to using fflogs since Im console, is blue 66 good

low hearth
#

better than a green bro !

brisk scarab
low hearth
#

a green parse is such a drag

dapper zealot
#

should be aiming for 67

trim frost
low hearth
trim frost
#

I DID

low hearth
#

disesteem cleave ?

trim frost
#

yeah

#

and shb

#

and s&d but kinda sorta

rapid whale
#

now the real q

#

did you cap tomes every week

trim frost
#

yes :(

trim frost
#

i'm just bad at game :(

jolly flume
#

I gotta get my omni healer week 1

dapper zealot
#

washed

low hearth
#

i got a 52 with a damage down from arena split

brisk scarab
#

Does m10 make you focus a singular boss with a chain debuff or do you have to balance between the two

tired egret
jolly flume
#

the bosses equalize their hp automatically

low hearth
#

they equal out their health repeatedly

#

yea

jolly flume
#

hp balance mechs are too hard for savage

#

akh afah AWARE

brisk scarab
#

So you can damage either, or am I assuming too much a difference in hp causes a negative effect?

trim frost
#

difference does not matter

#

(except at the end where the one with hp will cover the one with no hp)

dapper zealot
#

The clap cheeks and equalise hp

trim frost
#

apparently that equalizing is called epic brotherhood

brisk scarab
#

Cant wait to prog it tommorow

#

Itll be fun!

low hearth
#

goofy ass enrage bruh

brisk scarab
low hearth
#

u might not see it if people are pumping though ngl

brisk scarab
#

Having done m9 I can see healers hating the constant raidwides and multi-hit ones

uncut pebble
#

water stack for snaking could be simplified bc

#

fire players can also take it after the kb

#

if ppl stacked ontop eachother and use kbi it would make it so that your not losing uptime (on red at least) and everyones already positioned for the tank cleave

dull drum
#

thats what my static ended up doing

#

we just all stack together if its water stack wave

jolly flume
brisk scarab
#

I seee

robust shoal
#

12 seems kinda stressful as healer bc you'll get blamed for this

jolly flume
#

this was pretty funny ngl

#

I think we could've taken 0 damage if I krasis'd his spreadlo

robust shoal
#

wave cannon level mit on that

tame shuttle
#

Cats yaycarby

robust shoal
trim frost
#

oh cats while you're here

#

what's your preferred m10 opener

#

for dork

robust shoal
#

I didn't actually opti the 2target windows much, but salted+shb asap is reportedly good

#

I did like doing early cns tho

amber fable
#

spending ogcd early is the way there

#

or you miss by few second and they fuck off

low hearth
#

yea

robust shoal
#

yeah

#

with unemnd pull at 2.50 you can full uptime all the weapon phases

#

I have raid in 8 hrs but I'm not really eepy

low hearth
true beacon
sleek moon
#

shout out to panda 2 and 6 for breaking that curse

amber fable
#

Man m10 mechs arent even complicated bruh...

#

People are just dying to memes

wicked delta
#

Ugh, what a drag! Let’s do this together bro.

limpid edge
#

Did you guys let the opps win?

amber fable
#

Yes

low hearth
#

That all you got, huh? Nice knowing you, unenhanced warrior! 👋

amber fable
#

Opps are winning

rapid whale
#

i mean

#

i think its easy to say the mechs r ez or whatever but to people whose first savage tier it is

#

nothing else in the game would have prepared them

jagged aspen
#

snake prio refers to p8s snake mech?

worn bluff
#

yeah

jagged aspen
#

so like looper etc

amber fable
#

Yes

#

Swap based on debuff

#

With prio

true beacon
sleek moon
#

Tbh I don't associate fights with years, idr when 2 and 6 happened lol

#

Just making the point that those 2 were somehow way easier than previous and following second turns

#

The last time I pfed a tier was for Eden Ifrit Garuda and the wall there made me rage quit PF

true beacon
#

P10S was either between Turrets or Bonds 3

wicked delta
jagged aspen
clear plume
true beacon
#

There’s no Levinstrike in P10S…?

wicked delta
#

no shit

jagged aspen
#

oh idk why discord decuded to scroll up 12 hours

wicked delta
#

most people didnt make it past p9 because of levinstrike

#

lmao

true beacon
#

Or you could just

#

Get a carry on

wicked delta
#

you can do that with bonds 3 too Dentge

true beacon
#

Bonds 3 was either you fuck up and I healer lb3 your ass or you don’t

wicked delta
#

ok

#

and? that doesnt really change that levinstrike walled a lot of ppl in pf

#

bonds 3 was just the next wall like lmao

shadow pilot
#

what is bonds 3 again?

true beacon
#

The mech before Harrowing Hell starts

shadow pilot
#

oh that

true beacon
#

Well

shadow pilot
#

just aim towers and resolve pairs or spreads am i right

true beacon
#

Before the HH sequence starts

shadow pilot
true beacon
fervent scroll
#

anybody got that one video for the M10S music where it cuts to Roger from American Dad

sleek moon
#

just stack/spread with half arena cleave

#

and then the other with line aoes

deft yarrow
#

you know how when you get tinnitus you hear a constant ringing
this is me with Mirror

pale blade
#

I think this is me with PF

#

except when I believe it all falls apart

valid solar
#

"this strat is way better trust me bro"
doesnt even link the strat

dapper zealot
valid solar
#

LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND TELL ME WHAT YOU SEEEE

rapid whale
#

m11s clear yay

dapper zealot
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now it's time for mitosis

rapid whale
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mhm

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havent looked at a guide yet went in blind with the group i cleared 11s with

dapper zealot
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dw first pull ez

rapid whale
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we managed to figure out 1st mech lmao

sleek moon
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the ... means there's more text

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(not in aether so i cant check)

valid solar
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doesnt it normally display more text than that before the ... though

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im pretty sure ... doesnt show up unless the description goes past the area where it displays the name

sleek moon
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i checked the listing in xivpf lol

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it does show a link

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so far from what i see it just spreads the fire puddles all around the arena instead of only on the right side

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but like theres no big difference