#endgame-lounge

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stray forge
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idk what to use either so i just put on my rarest one

rain geode
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Maybe Ill take this off I 'unno

visual geyser
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Perfect blue is mine

robust shoal
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I like The Legend

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It's nice and simple

rain geode
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Lone hero is cool but Im not doing deep dungeons

stray forge
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reminds me too much of that phase in society where everyone kept calling things legendary

tawdry delta
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i didn't bother using any titles until epic hero

low hearth
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dead ahh ?

rain geode
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huh

stray forge
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oh I want bunny-blessed

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too bad I don't have infinite money

random needle
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Blue Justice would go hard, I need to sink more into BLU first though

rain geode
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Yeah bunny blessed is cool but its like what 3 bil to get it?

daring pine
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i was using The Red for

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so long.

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and then i swapped to seeker of blood lol

torn kindle
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Who thought 1k carrots is reasonable with how rare they are

rain geode
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Wait the red is perfect, Ill be a 2 liter of code red mountain dew

torn kindle
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And even then there’s only 1 or 2 active spawns on the map which move when someone claims the coffer

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So you not only need the carrot, but to find where to use it

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1k imp coffers is also stupid

whole estuary
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I like Partner in Teatime

daring pine
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!!

whole estuary
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it's comfy

daring pine
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insert image of me and kin having tea together

rain geode
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Id like to have tea time with someone sounds fun

torn kindle
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I like King Bean and Manta Maniac as my main titles

rain geode
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tho Im not much of a tea drinker

daring pine
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@whole estuary ‼️

rain geode
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hehe funny scene of my head of trying to down tea I dont like at a tea party

whole estuary
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very red!!!

daring pine
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very red

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the reddest

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and kin is the bunniest

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bunnyest?

whole estuary
daring pine
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bunny

rain geode
low hearth
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this shit is impossible

whole estuary
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of course

rain geode
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"of course" Ive never been to a tea time

daring pine
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i serve carrots at teatime if kin is there

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and lettuce

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mostly lettuce

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this is kin kin at teatime

rain geode
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I still picture myself drinking tea to make myself look sophisticated

low hearth
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Brace yourselves, folks! The Xtremes are holding nothing back !

rain geode
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Maybe the alt will be a bun

clear plume
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Wym with this though

sullen copper
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I was wrong all I needed was beer to cleer

shy obsidian
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bois what do you think about this fit (that i totally didn't steal from some other player no siree bob)

mossy eagle
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if you kill your cell early in M9S, can you be targeted by ultrasonic spread?

valid solar
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no

worn bluff
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you just stay in the clock of where your cell spawned and you will dodge all the cleaves

valid solar
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actually maybe if you somehow killed before the cast started

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but I dont think thats possible

loud swift
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i got it hell yeah

valid solar
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peak

shy obsidian
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MEEK 🧊

mossy eagle
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This is my first time doing a first floor on day 2

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It's quite bleak

thin fox
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its quite bad yeah

dense oxide
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Nah just kill that sh 100

mossy eagle
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I watched a MCH walk into the north tower twice

dense oxide
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mb

mossy eagle
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Also no one kills adds during SS2

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Just wails on the boss and then goes "huh" when the flail explodes

low hearth
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dude m10s is way worse

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GIGACOOKED 👉🏿 🌊

mossy eagle
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Maybe it's for the best I'm omegacasual

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Week 54 clear surely

dapper zealot
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have you tried looking in the mirror?

low hearth
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fire tank is crazy man

shy obsidian
low hearth
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GIGACOOKED 👉🏿 🍕

valid solar
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all 4 tracks this tier are bangers

shy obsidian
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"all"

dapper zealot
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yeah all of them

shy obsidian
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one sneak bud

wicked delta
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All of them

clear plume
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11s is secretly my fav third floor in like

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Forever

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Ngl

valid solar
shy obsidian
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cold take, apparently

clear plume
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But there is one single pattern out of 4 that the markers we have there you don’t just stand on and instead have to go towards the edge

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But my healer got pulled off by some suction thing, they stop moving and the edge of arena says actually you’re coming with me

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You can even see the cast start

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LMAO

valid solar
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oh yeah they're clearly standing still and then they just teleport off

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is that a mech or some extreme packet loss

clear plume
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Idk it could be lag bc we are playing on na but yeah it’s hilarious either way

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Definitely not a part of the mech to get suctioned off

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The “omg” in chat really sells its replay value

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I spent 5m Gil to have that clip uploaded

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(I’ll get the plug-in cords for those waymarks though if anybody wants them I swear they’re giga op)

thin fox
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Ive only seen it a few times but I think Im good with watersnaking and firesnaking

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the only thing Im not entirely sure on is how stuff is usually mitigated

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like the double tankbuster in the middle

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do people share or invuln

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etc

rapid whale
sullen copper
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The real answer was I needed to chill tf out and practice and internalize what I learned but that was only possible with the power of alcohol

thin fox
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its so awesome that you can just instantly cure driving anxiety with a bit of alcohol

rapid whale
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if that shit prevents you from action, all it's doin it bitchin at you

sullen copper
rapid whale
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ya

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whats up

valid solar
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I got a good prog party and in like 40 minutes we made it to the part where you get debuffed and have to go to the correct boss

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That's about halfway through the fight right

rapid whale
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hell yea

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snaking right

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id say abt half yea

valid solar
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Yeah it's the second half of snake after the tb/protean/lp thing

jolly flume
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well that's cool I guess

rapid whale
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lets gooo

clear plume
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Gl with the first 5m

rapid whale
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after food i head into 11

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how is it for casters wonder

tame shuttle
robust shoal
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bapple did u see my m11s greed video

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I know you like watchin those give healers heart attacks movements

robust shoal
clear plume
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Not as bad as group 1 healer has it though

worn bluff
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damn watching this JP group do M10 and safety gaming like crazy

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guy ran all the way to the furthest corner of the arena to take far TB

clear plume
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Yeah we did that too

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No reason to risk

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Fights dps check is not bad

robust shoal
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I broke melee range for the tb

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which you don't have to do if properly positioned

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but I'm not gonna be the guy who wipes to greeding a gcd on the second floor

clear plume
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First tb we took at max melee but the one in snaking is

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A certified pop HG and go for a walk moment

mossy eagle
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I like that melee uptime is less free this tier

rapid whale
mossy eagle
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At least for portions of M9S and M10S from what I can tell

clear plume
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What in 9 except aether spinny circle while you drop your puddle for 1 gcd isn’t melee range

robust shoal
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it's just the first 4 mins of the fight with the first min cut out but it has all 3 sets of weapons

worn bluff
robust shoal
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I had a couple 100ms clips in the last set but otherwise no clipping, full gcd roll

mossy eagle
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Though I just pocket a DMHS for that

jolly flume
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this is certainly a fight

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I think astro needs another 4 charges of lightspeed

rapid whale
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what the fuck

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is this

tulip wraith
low hearth
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its not that bad

jolly flume
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bro

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I need

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mroe lightspeeds

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HELPPP

dapper zealot
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no

undone tide
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blowjob brothers down

rapid whale
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hell ya

trim frost
clear plume
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It’s

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FUN

jolly flume
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it unironically makes me want to play white mage

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😭

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I probably won't but wtf

low hearth
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STANDING IN THE MIRROR 🗣️

clear plume
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Are you healer 1

jolly flume
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yeah

clear plume
jolly flume
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bell and raptures during the weapons phases seem kinda nice

clear plume
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Do you like clockwise party split into protean

jolly flume
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no.

clear plume
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Do you like when you get to follow that up with another party stack

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Into a protean?

jolly flume
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thats why I said

clear plume
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Whm does not have the movement for it either

jolly flume
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this job needs like 5 more stacks of lightspeed

clear plume
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Your lily doesn’t do SHIT

jolly flume
thin fox
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swap to scholar slut and hit that ruin 2

jolly flume
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I mean it probably doesnt matter bc I watched rinon's clear and hes pressing nothing like a solid 10% of the time ngl

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but

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holy moly

clear plume
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The dps check isn’t hard but it’s not free type thing

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We had an enrage cast kill with like 5 damage downs and a death in 11m

jolly flume
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our dps is really strong so I'm not like

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overly worried about it

clear plume
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With 4 dd being on healers

jolly flume
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this killed like right at the start of enrage in 10

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w 2 dds

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given its end of fight but

clear plume
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wtf happened in snaking 2 for you guys

jolly flume
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picto was on the floor for like a solid 30 seconds

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me and noble got venn'd by the debuff explosions

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on the last set

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bc didnt expect it to be so fucking big

clear plume
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Yeah it’s great pf is gonna love it

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As soon as they learn how snaking one works

jolly flume
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lol

undone tide
clear plume
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This might be the actual lowest amount of 3rd fight parties I’ve seen on second day in pf ever

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No exaggeration

jolly flume
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worse than 6?

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I've been on crystal so uh

clear plume
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Even 6s didn’t wall pf this hard

jolly flume
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its just barren anyways

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lol

clear plume
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Bc pf loves vpr so

low hearth
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fucking snaking bruh

clear plume
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Snaking has the INPOSSUVLE mechanic of

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Using eyes

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To adjust

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Anyways I need to bedge

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12s tomorrow meow

undone tide
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do i start 11 tonifht

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or bed

dapper zealot
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yes

undone tide
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great non answer

dapper zealot
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:)

clear plume
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I think if you’re tired 11 is a mistake the start of the fight is fast

jolly flume
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we were able to zombie to meteors in 7 pulls but yeah the first half is definitely a be awake angle lol

clear plume
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Meteors is like

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The hardest mech in the tier pretty universally accepted so far

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To execute

jolly flume
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11 reminds me a lot of 8

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nothing is complicated its all just execution checks

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and shit hurts yo

clear plume
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If you think 11 hurts

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12 is like

jolly flume
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yeah I saw the 400k raidwide

clear plume
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Cosmo memory levels of aoe

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KEKW

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“The”

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He doesn’t know

jolly flume
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clean it up shield healer

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I pressed my funny little bubble

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a lot of p1 doesn't look too bad at least

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I looked at some of p2 and it looks like e12sp2 cryptic ass shit

clear plume
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P1 is very not praised

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P2 isn’t apparently hard to understand but

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Memory check

jolly flume
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yeah I'm not clearing

clear plume
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You have to remember the positions of where a tower set was

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Legit minutes later

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Bc the shit just flips back to it as they’re about to explode

rapid whale
thin fox
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m12 phase 1 looks ok. phase 2 looks just psychotic.

jolly flume
thin fox
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oh yeah here's a mechanic how about you remember this shit in 3 business days fuck you

undone tide
clear plume
jolly flume
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it's cooked...

clear plume
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Anyways bed time dinkdonk

jolly flume
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I'm too hopped up on monster to sleep rn so I'm just sheeting mit lol

clear plume
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I’m happy with prog so far for everybody being LHW only w1 clears being in top 100 on fflogs tracking is like really damn good I was expecting 11 to wall for a full day type deal

jolly flume
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we took a little while longer on the water bubble than I'd have liked but once we actually talked about it it went fine

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ended up just chucking melees in there so they can't get jfk'd by random baits and never failed the check again

clear plume
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Their friend who is 9th man to another team abandoned the group though

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(Their friend being my raid leaders friend)

clear plume
jolly flume
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yeah that's what we did

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way way better than eyes

clear plume
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Then how tf do you mean random baits MacherieConcern

jolly flume
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we swapped to that after talking about it

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bc I was like this shit ain't working

clear plume
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Ah ok

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Yeah every group was like “dn was able to yolo this fine” and turns out most groups aren’t world prog team coordination on that front

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Never would have guessed

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Most strats I’ve been pretty good at showing them decent solves early with videos and saying I wanna do this though bc it has lines on the floor

jolly flume
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it's extra nice bc you don't even get steam bubbles from the overlaps

clear plume
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Yeah my exact way to describe it day one was

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“They party synergied these tethers”

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Swap? Optionals

rapid whale
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i hate and love this so far

low hearth
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yo @clear plume can water spread/stack kill the fire group players ?

jolly flume
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no

rapid whale
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wait rly i thought if they venn dia they still kill

jolly flume
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fire should just get in the water stack there's no reason not to

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well yeah

low hearth
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yea spreads kill i guess

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if 2

rapid whale
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a common occurence

jolly flume
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ranged just kbi and run to the wall idk how ppl ever fuck those up

rapid whale
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yea thats what i did

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or if not wall, into the tidal wave

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since nobody had any reason tobe there

dapper zealot
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Imagine being a dnc

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Definitely not me

low hearth
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god mfs can not stop hitting the fucking bubble with water tether

hot rose
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Whats the jump-bait prio for double alley woop fire ppl

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The one where he jumps 4 times

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For better snakes strat

low hearth
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t h m r

hot rose
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Bc you either bait 2 or 3 but which role goes where

hot rose
low hearth
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tank and melee go to 2

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ranged go to 3

hot rose
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Ok so its true north

alpine plover
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are the snakes mirrored

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if one group gets proteans does the other group also get proteans?

hot rose
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For which part?

alpine plover
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like, first

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let's say

hot rose
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Only water ppl get protean

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🤔

alpine plover
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for insane air

trim frost
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oh

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are you asking if the surfboard directions are always the same

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between the bosses

alpine plover
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no like

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is this always protean and protean

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or lp and lp

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or can it be protean and lp

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or some other combo

jolly flume
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pretty sure it can be different but I don't spend enough time looking to know for sure

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but for air 2 the tb ones sync up

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would have to check vod

alpine plover
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was also my guess but nobody is looking at both bosses haha

jolly flume
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I'm just pretty sure my star has healed all 4 people on the other side before while my tank is taking the buster

shy obsidian
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what the fuck is going on in that Lindwurm fight

alpine plover
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or does someone else get jailed

shy obsidian
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i just watched a video of it and I have NO idea what's going on in it

trim frost
alpine plover
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ok thx

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so it's not calloutable

trim frost
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unforch no

alpine plover
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callable?

trim frost
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just use eyes

alpine plover
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cable

trim frost
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it should basically be the only thing on your screen anyway

alpine plover
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yes i have to see where my lp decides to vibe the protean

trim frost
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i have a related question

thin fox
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can someone link better snake

trim frost
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is it just any water-based mechanic hitting a fire puddle that causes the 'fusion explosion' aoes

thin fox
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yes

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so e.g. the wave triggers every fire thing in the arena

trim frost
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ye

jolly flume
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yeah they're different I just checked vod

trim frost
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how does it decide where the aoe is within like a fire cleave tho

jolly flume
alpine plover
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I also think melees might be better lmao

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give them full uptime

thin fox
trim frost
jolly flume
alpine plover
jolly flume
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we don't even send 2s there

alpine plover
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it's the same no?

jolly flume
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dragoons can't use their jumps I think

alpine plover
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LOL

jolly flume
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if it's anything like what my war was complaining about

thin fox
trim frost
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.

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so no dragonfire or stardiver

thin fox
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correct

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or high jump

trim frost
thin fox
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actually i think hgih jump doesnt count as movement technically

trim frost
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high jump i'm not sure about i'd need to go look at rubicante or some such bullshit to checkj

jolly flume
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it didn't end up mattering for our drg because she had to hold her 1s for 2s anyways

worn bluff
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oh wait

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in snaking, the dual TB is always targeted on the fire tank? regardless of aggro

thin fox
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yes

worn bluff
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ah ok, so you can't plan for an invuln there

thin fox
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I think?

worn bluff
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if you're invulning first one

thin fox
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idk

trim frost
shy obsidian
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are yall talking about the water gaol or something

worn bluff
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no the regular TB after the snaking stuff

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before gaol

thin fox
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@jolly flume do you happen to know if the fire/watersnaking double tankbuster requires aggro or if it just defaults to fire tank

jolly flume
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pretty sure it's fire tank and then the deep impact after baits only on water players

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needs citation

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ask cats or smth

worn bluff
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i was trying to invuln it as OT but couldn't get it to work when i got water debuff

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the fire TB

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i thought i was losing aggro but i think it's just not possible to be targeted as water tank?

thin fox
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I feel like the easiest invulns to send in M10 are the fire/watersnaking busters

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the busters in the first 2 minutes are w.e just mit them 4head

alpine plover
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i invulned when i had to get the tankbuster in the fire

jolly flume
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if you do the strat where tanks take both the LP cone and the buster solo then yeah maybe

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if people take the lp cone as normal may as well just mit

thin fox
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wait wdym

worn bluff
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tanks can take the LP cones alone

jolly flume
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tanks can solo the surfboard middle pattern

worn bluff
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with a little bit of mit

jolly flume
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if you wanna do that

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we didn't

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but I think it's a reasonable thing to do

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I had a lot of free heals there anyways so didn't really matter to me

thin fox
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'for this part

jolly flume
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I cooked some crazy -30s prepped horoscopes in this fight ngl

thin fox
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it obv doesnt matter what order these baits end up going in right

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because itll always end up on these 4

jolly flume
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as long as you run in immediately after you get your bait yeah

dull drum
jolly flume
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but people don't do that sometimes

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and get doubled

dull drum
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i trolled so hard in static today Sadgesip

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well atleast we'

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are arena split now ig

jolly flume
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arena split scary asf ngl

alpine plover
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how is it compared to 10

jolly flume
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no we're about halfway through give or take

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it reminds me a lot of 8

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execution heavy fight

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also shit hurts

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lol

alpine plover
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which 8?

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climbing in the ring?

jolly flume
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m

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yea

alpine plover
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isee

worn bluff
rapid whale
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When do the meteor baits go out of it during laser or after

worn bluff
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i guess you could share opening buster, then invuln whichever buster you get in snaking

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invuln makes it comfier i guess, because i've seen people just run out into the fire to be extra safe

jolly flume
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and I'm quite confident he was further than us

alpine plover
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opening buster i survive with rampart + holy sheltron and share

worn bluff
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it makes sense.. i just checked 10 POVs and it's always a water tank baiting. but it could also be because the fire tank would have used cooldowns on the other one

alpine plover
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it takes like 80% of my hp tho

worn bluff
thin fox
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LOL get fucked idiot

jolly flume
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wtf is wrong with that image

trim frost
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if i look at this image too long i'm gonna start getting a headache

jolly flume
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5 beers deep pov

alpine plover
thin fox
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so i can show the distance run

jolly flume
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oh yeah

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it's straight ass fuck this fight

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:))

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i'm using macro as a movement gcd that happens to get some healing value

rapid whale
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Bro when it's aoe into far scythe fuck me dude

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I smudge and still missed it once

jolly flume
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best pattern is anything - axe - anything

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scythe and sword back to back is just kms

thin fox
jolly flume
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ngl I'm probably just gonna swift for movement there and tell my ruin 2 haver to get the raise

alpine plover
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ngl if i didn't suffer from massive skill issue i would have 99% uptime on m9

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instead of 96

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as pld

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this fight is actually pld coded

jolly flume
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my 10 log is disgusting

thin fox
alpine plover
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my gnb suffers

trim frost
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my 9 log is atrocious

jolly flume
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pov you're trying to cast but deep blue is doing his fucking insane air swirlies

trim frost
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because this fuck ass dragoon greeded everything and murdered me multiple times and got a 97

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🧍‍♂️

alpine plover
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mb

thin fox
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i don't actually fully understand how cast interrupts for moving targets works

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is it a certain angle your character has to turn before you get interrupted?

alpine plover
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i'm gonna parse more next week in m9

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now that i know how the bats works

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unfortunately i ate so many bats DDs in my clear that i will retrigger corona

jolly flume
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I do for normally moving targets but whatever these fuckers do during insane air is just impossible to cast through unless you're literally on the opposite side of the totem from them

thin fox
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honestly paladin is kind of #beast this tier

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so much util out of confit

jolly flume
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it even rolled back my cast with lightspeed

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like

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gg go next

thin fox
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actually get fucked idiot

alpine plover
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yea +1 mit and ranged comfy uptime

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getting aetherline , oh mb i also had my 2 min there

trim frost
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at least i have pld train weapon

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sigh

jolly flume
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I'm probably making one of my tanks go paladin for 11 and 12

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12 especially

trim frost
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i opened pf earlier for m9 parties and there were fucking like

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three parties total

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with a drk slot open

alpine plover
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i need to get into the habit of holy spiriting if i actually have to drop uptime

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instead of shield lobing

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lmao

trim frost
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holy spirit is so free

jolly flume
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shield lob looks cool :(

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hold this for me

alpine plover
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it does :(

jolly flume
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frisbee toss

thin fox
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during static aetherletting you can legit just park at the edge in your 1m and not worry about your marker

trim frost
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i guess i've been practicing a lot of pld lately because tank achievements and deep dungeon

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so it'll probs be fine

jolly flume
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I like our rotating aetherletting strat

amber fable
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pld is bis tank fr fr

jolly flume
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is it probably objectively worse yes

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is the slidecast fun to do yes

alpine plover
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it's bis tank for now

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until people opti the uptime

thin fox
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m9s is a lot of trust mechanics tbh

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like

alpine plover
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then it will be drk gnb again

thin fox
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static aetherletting is good

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but i won't lie

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i'm always

#

i don't trust people to place them correctly

amber fable
#

u can dump 1m and then move out

#

it gives enough time

trim frost
#

if two markers are dropped in the same spot do they explode immediately or something

jolly flume
#

yeah

amber fable
#

yes

jolly flume
#

and it gets bigger

trim frost
#

ahh

amber fable
#

instant spawn

trim frost
#

that makes sense

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i had a pull earlier where two people gap closed way too early and that shit just appeared out of nowhere and blasted everyone

amber fable
#

i probably have died to every meme at m9 at this point

#

clear today hopefully

trim frost
#

it's freelo just don't have first-time savage players

jolly flume
#

mb

#

i'm new

thin fox
#

when helping friends w m9s today I learned for the first time that the hell in a cell towers enrage LOL

jolly flume
#

they do?

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I mean I figured they do eventually but

amber fable
#

tower blows up

jolly flume
#

lol how would you ever see that

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if an astro can kill it in 4 gcds

amber fable
#

suffice to say...i have

thin fox
#

idk whm was topo busy jacking it to hit a gcd

amber fable
#

i was on bard and mis clicked boss

#

so at last few % instead of killing it

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the tower blew up

thin fox
#

2 friends in m9s are ready to crash the fuck out

#

right of line is their pulls today

jolly flume
#

flails/saws phase is impossible content

#

i'm ngl pretty sure I ate a bleed on like every single one

#

thankfully I can take care of that myself

craggy marsh
#

Cooly did it without getting hit

jolly flume
thin fox
#

I feel really good about my damage rotation on picto there

jolly flume
#

🥀

craggy marsh
#

Why did Cooly have to go

#

Without him we'll never clear the tier

jolly flume
#

they hated him because he spoke the truth meme

thin fox
#

I save 2 hammers for saw2 and I make sure to send 1 hammer gcd on each of the first 2 sets of balls

jolly flume
#

you'll never believe what my rotation on flails is

thin fox
#

because holy fuck in pf that shit just doesnt get killed

worn bluff
thin fox
#

tho tbh

#

I might move my second hammer to the third balls

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cuz 2nd balls has the tank 1m on it

#

if tanks cant kill it with their 1m thats their problem

amber fable
#

its mainly drk

#

drk 1m sucks horse cock

#

so it might need some help

jolly flume
#

idk we just do melees hit flails first and ranged focus the lightning tower

worn bluff
#

it has screen shake it must be strong

amber fable
#

melee needs like 2 gcd on flails

jolly flume
#

I dont think we've ever failed the flails at least

amber fable
#

but melees dont wanna

#

cuz why would they

craggy marsh
jolly flume
#

tower we definitely choked a few times when we had like 5 weaknesses lol

craggy marsh
#

Bc to me it makes the most sense

rapid whale
#

im sure with gear tanks will solo flails ezpz

jolly flume
#

but not otherwise

amber fable
craggy marsh
#

Im super curious to see what happens with coffinmaker once everyone has full gear

amber fable
#

but man some melees are such fucking morons

#

nah bro tank can handle it solo

#

we wont attack it

craggy marsh
#

Will killing the roller during the second set be possible

amber fable
#

m9s will get m6s fate

#

super free

craggy marsh
#

And so you just get free damage while avoiding cleaves

amber fable
#

with gear

jolly flume
#

we're already killing the roller before the second halfroom she does

#

quite comfortably

amber fable
#

yea

jolly flume
#

with gear she'll probably just be afk at the wall for like

thin fox
jolly flume
#

30s

thin fox
#

she def wont become early targetable

amber fable
#

roller dies before she can get to her enrage cast there

craggy marsh
#

Oh I mean before the roller moves a 3rd time

amber fable
#

she will jump

#

at end

dapper zealot
#

accidentally made some vitality pots and I've been trying to get rid of them since patch drop

thin fox
#

i have a bone to pick

#

what insane definition of ccw makes the 1 spot the 'ccw corner'

amber fable
#

Dont explain shit

#

Assume people understand

thin fox
#

like I know how to do this mech

#

I just look at him and go left

#

but what makes that "going to the ccw corner"

#

in what universe does ccw even make sense as a way to describe that action

#

instead of saying

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look at him

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go left

#

also Im going to fucking kill people in pf over this mechanic

#

I have seen so many people

#

run

#

to

#

NARNIA

#

with the tether

alpine plover
#

mb!

thin fox
#

you hate me

#

you hate me and my 30s ogcds that i'm trying to keep rolling

rapid whale
#

trueing

thin fox
#

m10s is the first time i think i've ever modified my opener for a specific fight

alpine plover
#

nah i pull the bosses for my melees to have uptime

thin fox
#

i move my entire opener forward a gcd

#

and its just sooo much comfier

alpine plover
#

i am good b-

#

i am a good tank

dapper zealot
#

good boy :3

thin fox
#

doing 1-2-opener instead of 1-2-3 is so much nicer specifically re: the two 30s ogcds on paladin

alpine plover
thin fox
#

but yeah i think i'm ready to jump straight to orb in m10s

#

snakes seem pretty chill

#

<-- has done each of them twice

alpine plover
#

i made a macro

#

/p DOWN LEFT ---- PROTEANS
/p ....
/p LEFT ---- STACK
/p ....
/p UP LEFT ---- TANKBUSTER CLOSE

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it helped for a few pulls NODDERS

thin fox
#

idk how people are struggling to remember it

#

also wow sanguine scratch fucking sucks on caster!!!

jade nimbus
jolly flume
#

I think the 1 wall strat is a lot better for this

#

esp since if a melee gets 2 there's like a 50% chance they're going to not go far enough and short tether the 3 and kill them lol

#

but even that aside 1 wall is just cleaner

thin fox
#

clean this

alpine plover
#

even if you dont put them properly

#

it wont matter anyway

#

cuz he covers the entire arena 320 degrees later anyway

thin fox
#

to help keep your 30s rolling

hot rose
#

Forever hardstuck on double alleywoop I fear

undone tide
#

you can let them drift a lot and it doesn’t matter

#

at least not with the way i do it

#

i actually drift them out of fof to prioritize cleave before insane air 1

hot rose
#

What do y’all think is the hardest mech in m10s

undone tide
#

arena split

alpine plover
#

not cringing

#

from proteans

#

at boss split

thin fox
#

can we go back to day 1/2 so that tanks go in middle for orb ty

#

i want to afk

alpine plover
#

lowkey

#

chat

#

dont murder me but

#

m9s and m10s are not hard

thin fox
#

"guys the first two fights of the raid tier are not impossibly hard"

tulip wraith
#

ss2 the only annoying part of m9s

thin fox
#

p10s is the only time a 2nd fight has actually been fuck off difficult

finite plank
#

arena split, i have no clue how you can easily visualize alley oop dodge from far

#

if it's reverse, it's easy, just move mid

alpine plover
#

and m6s

thin fox
#

m6s is not hard

#

tanks not pressing mit and healers not healing is not the fight being hard brother

hot rose
#

P7s tho

alpine plover
#

i think the fact that it forced parties to cleavemax as an actual required mechanic would constitute it as being hard

#

but it's just imo

thin fox
thin fox
#

[mechanic] forces [strat to do mechanic]

#

often true

alpine plover
#

yea but it's

#

like, the only way to solve it

#

idk how to say it

#

mb

#

like, pf usually does sillies and is dumb and whatnot so the fact that it made pf actually play optimal as a requirement

#

i'd say it is a good enough to up the bar to it being considered hard

thin fox
#

idk to me this is no different than any number of mechanics in the game which only have 1 solution

#

8 towers -> put 1 player in each tower

#

cleavemax also wasn't required. pf just can't do damage.

#

none of the race groups did it.

alpine plover
#

yea idk

#

dont kill me for my op

#

m9s and m10s feel much easier than m6s

hot rose
#

I feel like this is so much better

#

Ive been clipped by water cleaves twice bc of the horrid spread in better snakes

thin fox
#

people also say m9s is easier than m5s but i don't think that's true

#

the second saw mechanic alone puts 9 above 5

hot rose
#

Sanguine scratch so hard bruh

#

Lol

jolly flume
#

just dodge through the melee puddle

#

instead of going around

#

you won't take the bleed if you don't afk there

hot rose
#

Im a tank lol

lyric summit
#

cause line doesnt leave much room in the cleave safespot

jolly flume
#

if you're a tank and you're getting clipped you'd be even more dead doing line puddles

#

lol

#

thats just on the water people pointing their shit really badly

hot rose
#

Fckkkkk

jolly flume
#

on the reverse pattern

#

you don't have to 1/3 the second puddles

#

same applies just run out and don't greed and you won't get burnt

#

but it's uglier for sure

kind elm
jolly flume
#

must be a8s

undone tide
valid solar
valid solar
low hearth
#

I can handle you alone.

#

bedge angle

#

m10s is way too hard

echo ibex
#

say sike

low hearth
#

is Cutback Blaze a near or far bait bruh

rapid whale
alpine plover
echo ibex
rapid whale
#

Oh okay phew

echo ibex
#

Imagine tho

echo ibex
#

Ignore the spear double his size

low hearth
#

Damn

alpine plover
lyric summit
echo ibex
#

Also rank 24 but 93 damn

rapid whale
#

i feel u

#

i got rank 20 and its only 97 cryge

#

i prob lost it now

craggy marsh
echo ibex
dapper zealot
late crypt
#

not the best pathing, but it worked kekw

jolly flume
#

if it was furthest i'm pretty sure we would've had no safe zone a few times because sometimes I don't even try to get to the safe side to bait

echo ibex
fierce matrix
#

Nah its random person

jolly flume
#

if it was mt my first pf party would've gone a lot worse

#

because that tank was clueless

echo ibex
#

Well lmao then

fierce matrix
#

During watersnaking its random with whoever is assigned to the fire boss

#

The water can just fuck off and resolve their spread/stack

finite plank
#

that would be good to know

jolly flume
#

can we kill whoever made that split room protean mechanic btw

#

they hate fun I think

fierce matrix
#

Just dodge 4head

jolly flume
#

I don't have eyes

#

need braindead waymarks ong fr

fierce matrix
#

There will be some markers eventually

#

Yeah lol

jolly flume
#

mitsurugi already posted a clip with markers but not the actual json

jade nimbus
#

Is there a specific strat for the pylon + balls thing or is just a general do damage and dodge for everyone?

jolly flume
fierce matrix
#

11s will be the same

sleek moon
#

recreate them manually

fierce matrix
#

Dps it down

#

Yolo

jade nimbus
#

No, wait, I meant in m9

fierce matrix
#

Oh

#

Whoops

#

No clue

sleek moon
#

does it get healed

fierce matrix
#

No

#

Vuln up

jolly flume
#

the ball pops a pomander of steel

#

:)

fierce matrix
#

Yes LOL

finite plank
#

ranged pylon = ball > boss

jade nimbus
#

Ye, pretty much just wing it I guess

#

Well, that's what I was doing

fierce matrix
#

We always just did ranged on nail, melee on their ball and then condense

#

But ig if people are bad its prob better for everyone to go to nail

jolly flume
#

we did everyone on ball then ranged whale on lightning thing

#

was never really a problem for us

dull drum
#

the last nail you can ignore ngl

sleek moon
dull drum
#

because its not like theres another set of towers

fierce matrix
#

That fights so behind me that I can't wait to wipe next week

jolly flume
fierce matrix
#

Just wait till you see 11

#

:)

sleek moon
#

also what i find absolutely diabolical with this mechanic is that the people away from blue cant even dash close to red without getting burned lmao

#

so you have to walk away to drop puddle

jolly flume
#

11 we're just doing markers for arena split

sleek moon
#

slowly walk back to the boss without gap closer

jolly flume
#

seems pretty useless everywhere else

#

tbh

sleek moon
#

drop the pair puddles

#

again slowly walk back to the boss

fierce matrix
#

Just have tethers go furthest corner

sleek moon
#

they coulda at least made the fire stripe thinner so people can gap close

#

oh well im not melee

fierce matrix
#

And then waymarks on the safe spots

#

The issue is

dull drum
fierce matrix
#

There is a front and back safe spot

dull drum
#

ive had it go to narnia because some fucknut cant lick ass

fierce matrix
#

So you might not have enough markers

#

You might be able to place it near the middle of it but people gotta use eyes

jolly flume
#

the safespots are pretty easy to read on half of the patterns anyway I think

#

i've seen some really cursed solves though

fierce matrix
#

Once youve seen it a few times yeah

#

The issue is recognizing the inside pattern

#

If its far + corner portals

#

And then getting there in time without clipping your partner

sleek moon
#

man m12sp2 reminds me of p8sp2, just from seeing clear vids i cant make any sense of what im looking at

jolly flume
#

far with corner portals on your side?

fierce matrix
#

Yeah

#

Thats the inside bait

jolly flume
#

yeah you just go far back inner and pray

fierce matrix
#

The outside bait is east you just stand near the intercard marker in/out based on the safe half

jolly flume
#

the lines on the floor are actually useful for that one at least it's not like

#

crazy tight

fierce matrix
#

Yeah the prey cleaves are really small

jolly flume
#

my standards for crazy tight went up after the arena split proteans in 10

#

😭

fierce matrix
#

Also if you can test it cause my static crashed out and did conga

#

How the fuck do you bait the preys in the last mech

#

We are thinking there has to be a way

#

We tried furthest, closest, furthest/closest

jolly flume
#

the ones where you make a box with the tethers to the corners?

#

followed by the line stack?

fierce matrix
#

Yeah

#

Its stack/spread

#

Based on the cast

jolly flume
#

ngl I just assumed that was random

fierce matrix
#

Two and four

#

Yeah we think its random

#

But its just cursed as fuck to slap a conga mech at 20%

jolly flume
#

it seems pretty consistently to put the preys on two of the four furthest players

valid solar
#

kek I wonder what the story behind this is

jolly flume
#

so have melees all sit in the boss and all ranged out

#

we'll try that tomorrow idk

#

would make sense that it's baitable in that fashion so you don't have a melee losing 20 seconds of uptime

torn kindle
pale blade
torn kindle
#

Or people doing conflicting strats

#

Also doesn’t help that I got watersnakes 8 times in a row before getting fire for the first time

#

So sometimes it’s just people not getting one half of the mechanics often

jolly flume
#

if we get the swap it's so fucking cursed lol

#

goodbye picto leylines

sleek moon
jolly flume
#

that I haven't checked but seems to?

fierce matrix
#

We had ranged+healers out

#

And then melee stack in

#

And it baited on the tank

jolly flume
#

its sample size of 3 vods so

pale blade
#

is this M10S lmao

fierce matrix
#

This shit

#

Makes me crazy bro

pale blade
#

I'm studying up on it

fierce matrix
#

Its okay I dont want to think about 11

#

For another week

sleek moon
fierce matrix
#

My brain is info overloaded on m12s p2

pale blade
#

but also I don't like reading too far ahead because I have a tendency to forget mechs that are WAY too far ahead of my prog point

sleek moon
#

although that healer prob moved after snapshot

jolly flume
#

yeah h2 was 4th furthest at the castbar end

#

but iunno

sleek moon
#

so far every vid has been 1 healer 1 dps so, maybe someone moved late or something if a tank got picked for your run

#

so a random healer or dps furthest away from the boss does seem the most likely

jolly flume
#

lemme check the cn doc

#

if anyone knows it's probably china 105_ICANT

sleek moon
#

ok i found 1 vid where healers did not get picked, the two ranged dps did

jade nimbus
#

Wait

#

How long did it take to clear this tier

#

Around 30 hours, right?

sleek moon
#

ok so yeah not role, just 2 out of the 4 furthest people

#

out of the last... 10 vids ive seen

sleek moon
jade nimbus
#

Oh, neat

jolly flume
sleek moon
#

im assuming some shitty settings on obs or whatever they used

#

or cpu choked at 100%

jolly flume
#

it's incomplete for 11 and 12 though

rapid whale
#

arigats

amber fable
#

Bro..what is with dps with no meld

#

Crazy...

boreal pumice
#

no penta or no melds at all?

jolly flume
#

man i'm fucked

#

going to sleep and it's already starting to get light outside

amber fable
#

No melds

#

At all

#

Mfs.....

boreal pumice
#

playdead cheapass lazy mofos

amber fable
#

Man no wonder we were hitting 5% enrage

#

Sub 90% uptime

#

On melees

#

One melee with no meld

#

Drk sub 90

#

Fucking hell

boreal pumice
#

how much dps increase it with melds/penta or depends on class

amber fable
#

About 7% ish?

#

I don't have exact numbers

jade nimbus
#

Mhm

#

Actually how much damage does a pot add

amber fable
#

8%for 30 sec

#

So a hefty buff

jade nimbus
#

Like pot vs no pot run on an avarage run is still a big boost

amber fable
#

Yes

jade nimbus
#

Since most damage is under 2 min anyway

amber fable
#

Pots can add like 1k+ dps

#

If you use all the pot you can

boreal pumice
#

thats like 2/3 pots ish

amber fable
#

On average 10 min full uptime fight

#

You can get 3 uses

#

Specific fights with downtime aside

valid solar
#

sir, a braindead strat has struck party finder

jolly flume
#

tbf it is actually a little braindead

#

but it's a good strat regardless of the stupid name that people choose for it

visual geyser
#

How is m10s

valid solar
#

by any chance does anyone know what nomnom/better snakes is

#

are those two different strats

valid solar
visual geyser
#

💔

valid solar
#

you're gonna have to fight for your uptime in this one I fear

pale blade
#

it's okay

#

I've accepted my fate as a Monk this tier

jolly flume
jolly flume
valid solar
#

oh like that one team was doing in world 1st ? with water line right next to fire ?

jolly flume
#

if you do it that way you can keep one half of the arena permanently safe, there's less guesswork as to where you're baiting, and you don't even get the steam bubble aoes from overlapping water and fire

alpine plover
#

protean through the window

jolly flume
#

someone please ddos me so I go to bed ong

alpine plover
#

hit chiyo's eyes with the light proteans

low hearth
#

yea its way better than normal

#

baiting that dumb ass cleave is so dumb bruh

jolly flume
#

light vulnerability up

alpine plover
low hearth
#

i been at ts for like 10 hours bruh

#

GIGACOOKED 👉🏿 sadsurfmorning

jolly flume
#

seems like ass in pf ngl

#

especially with pf damage