endgame-lounge

[zealous meteor]

[jagged aspen]

idk i need to find time to actually level jobs and stuff

but so much to do always

[remote gate]

next time focus on the content that matters

[rapid whale]

noted we have added island sanctuary (savage)

[thin tartan]

invalid logs r funny as shit bro

[winged spindle]

It seems that I found a static
Cool !

[rapid whale]

congrats hope it goes well

[jagged aspen]

huh

om they have a grudge

[clear plume]

Certified don’t play with whms moment

[sly basin]

😭

[boreal pumice]

this like someone using a moogle wpn in limsa

[craggy marsh]

I love how if you're a PLD the shield makes the whistle sounds while the sword makes the bells

so you can just play the whistle if you wanted

[jolly flume]

dingdingdingdingding

[craggy marsh]

dingdingdingdingding

[jagged aspen]

how would that draw 1106 times, dont you have to press all the macros

[jolly flume]

nothing cousin macro chain can't fix

[jagged aspen]

but at that point you can just mod to draw it infinitely?

[jolly flume]

dont ask me man

theyre doing it for a twitter bit

[sly basin]

twitter cut it off but they have /nextmacro at the bottom

[worn bluff]

yesterday i decided to level my warrior and got bored after one fight

[lavish mortar]

holy ddos I hope they give people something for this like they did at the start of endwalker when queues were abyssmal

[whole estuary]

Give 1000 Crysta so I can roll for limited 5* New Year's Thancred

[clear plume]

there was a thancred unit in wotv gacha that was double cost compared to regular units

[whole estuary]

I ran a team that was just 3 gunners

Either get steamrolled or the enemy doesn't even get in range before dying

[clear plume]

thunder or water variant?

or the budget dark one

[whole estuary]

Mixed

It was at the end where they did weapon based cards

Made it annoying to counter this way too

[clear plume]

yeah but they still didnt stack so when maxing damage youd want multiple sources that go with all of them

[whole estuary]

I dunno, I got a full set with unique effects

On maps where the terrain prevented teams from meeting for 3 or more turns, firing squad would just shred the other team while they did nothing but reapply buffs and heal

[wintry elbow]

which youtube do i watch for the hell on rails extreme fight?

[valid solar]

hectors

or read the raidplan

[trim frost]

hector video, then watch hector static intermission mini guide

i will throw hammers at you if you try to cheese revelation

[wintry elbow]

where would i find the "raidplan" yes i am a noob, this will be my first extreme

[worn bluff]

8.0 rework will make game into gacha

[wintry elbow]

that was too much slang for me to understand 😄

[sly basin]

fr theres no need to cheese

[sly basin]

he put the raidplan in the youtube desc https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fGGI8MM-wKM

[wintry elbow]

2026 just happened, so what does cheese mean in 2026? lol

[sly basin]

i prefer the video first and then looking at raidplan after if u still feel stuck

[sly basin]

cheesing is usually when instead of doing a mechanic the "correct" way u do some unintended bs

in this case instead of doing arcane revelation correct u just take aoe and use full mit or tank lb

u will see AR later in the guide

[valid solar]

https://raidplan.io/plan/5yf4k7f25gcptpc7

[sly basin]

it seems a little intimidating but once u see it a few times the pattern makes more sense and the boss also makes a sfx when its about to stop

[shy obsidian]

do I have to suffer in Phaenna for this gear? I want the hat

[trim frost]

no

you can just buy off market board

[shy obsidian]

phew

[whole estuary]

Phaenna is also very different from Sinus Ardorum

You can cap credits in like an hour

[trim frost]

yeah

mech ops (pilot) give a shitload of credits

[whole estuary]

The FATES give 1.8K, you don't even have to craft if you don't want to

[shy obsidian]

but hmmmm
i came up with a cool outfit idea using this and a Bygone Brass top, but which job shall it be for...

[shy obsidian]

OH THANK FUCK

[trim frost]

im surprised they didn't back-update sinus mech ops to have the same rewards

[whole estuary]

Recently they even added chain bonus

The whole place prints money

The Phaenna missions are also just easier

[trim frost]

oh yeah chain bonus is a thing now

[shy obsidian]

like look at the cool outfits I can create with this hat... even if it aint all Bygone Brass stuff it's still a really good hat WHAT DO I DO

[trim frost]

still requires you to do class a missions tho right

[wintry elbow]

that video has dots with letters and numbers. if i am blm, which one am I?

the hell on Rails video

[shy obsidian]

one of the ranged peeps

so like... the R guys

[wintry elbow]

thank you, and i pair with which one?

[zealous meteor]

one of the healers

[trim frost]

caster is usually (but not always) R2

[zealous meteor]

people will often plop down 1 and 2 markers for light parties, and then 1/2/3/4 markers for pairs
pre-pull

[trim frost]

if you have two casters then you'll have to talk it out

[shy obsidian]

it'll get easier to read as time goes on, don't worry

[zealous meteor]

and the one you're standing in is your light party/pair

[dull drum]

H2

[wintry elbow]

this seems so complex from the video, like when do i cast my spells if the video is telling me to run everywhere lol

[dull drum]

you gotta figure that out doing the fight

you dont have to run everywhere 24/7

[wintry elbow]

do i do it as blm or pld? i main pld but i don't know if i am good enough to tank a real fight.

[dull drum]

this fights easier on tank

theres a lot of tank busters though so make sure to properly space mit

[wintry elbow]

and everyone will get mad at me if i mess up and its easy to see i mess up as pld, my blm just gets lots of player reconition things at the end of fights 😄

i will try blm first and watch the tanks. 🙂

[dull drum]

you main pld though so i dont see how youd mess up more than blm?

tanks do same thing as party but just handle busters, intermission they do their own thing but its just one tank on each side taking a conal buster

[worn bluff]

extremes are a good intro to this - you basically need to figure this out for any endgame fight, but it gets easier as you get more experience

[wintry elbow]

i am up to the 2 trains in a circle part 🙂

is there any settings i need in the game to hear the train horns or will they be noticable?

[tulip wraith]

i have everything on max but master set to 20 and i hear it perfectly fine. You can also hope someone will put it in chat

[worn bluff]

turning your BGM down helps

[tulip wraith]

also another "tank mech" is you and your co tank invul the 2nd and 3rd tower stacks

but thats just press invul not really hard

[trim frost]

just dont press it too early

[random needle]

Aw man not again

[trim frost]

manaward save me

[true beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-hitchhikers-guide-to-the-galaxy-oh-no-not-again-not-again-flower-pot-gif-21730553

[terse zodiac]

Low key manaward is annoying how slow it applies

Sure it lasts 20s press it early but

[golden jewel]

yoship hinted at more nier mounts im so excited

[wicked delta]

straight up jolting it

[zealous meteor]

whadda hell

[timber stratus]

me

[rapid whale]

Mb

[boreal pumice]

this was normal content right

[sullen copper]

Jolt 3 is optimal wdym

[daring pine]

my eyes

[jagged aspen]

why do people cast dosis and stuff when they can revive :C

[true beacon]

Sometimes it’s not a good moment or swift is on cd

[thin fox]

because surely my whm cohealer has a swift+thin air

[random needle]

An important part of triage is making sure that you don't end up with even more victims

Especially if you don't have swift up, make sure you don't commit to a rez if someone else is going to die during the cast

[thin fox]

yea sometimes i just know a fight well enough to know that if i start hardcasting i'm gonna get interrupted by forced movement

[tulip wraith]

chat should a gnb be on the brink of death consistently from train auto attack alone

[random needle]

If they're undergeared in EX, maybe

[jolly flume]

if they have shit gear and your healers can't find their heal buttons on their keyboards sure

[tulip wraith]

ill take the blame if it was on me, i was ast and not particularly paying attention to their health lol

but i just remember from a previous clear that i didnt have to pay attention to the tank as much

[worn bluff]

i once died to TB because no one healed me for 10 seconds of autos and i was 2/3 HP

[jolly flume]

people mit differently, just build the habit of staring at the party list whenever you can

[tulip wraith]

still new to high ends so might be something i need to get used to

[jolly flume]

even if a tank drops the 4s part of their short mit or something on a busterthey might be 30, 40k lower than they usually are and then they fall over to two autos where they'd normally be fine

[worn bluff]

but i also blame hector because he says to use 20% there and save 40% for intermission for some reason

[jolly flume]

"they're normally fine there" doesn't really mean much, just always be looking at hp

[worn bluff]

i adjusted my mits after. hector is a strat guy not a mit guy anyways

[clear plume]

I mean he plays tank so he knows more than the average bc he can talk about what mit he uses and if it’s super important to have other mit later on, but mitigation just isn’t a party to party solution in EX parties bc what works in a static isn’t anymore and people kill intermission faster now

[worn bluff]

i take it more as he focuses more on strat recommendations and probably doesn’t spend much time on mits

his recommendations for mits are probably just what he happened to use personally

[shy obsidian]

how fast are we gonna shred Vamp Fatale when we've got three Bygone Brass things

[clear plume]

There isn’t a single mit guide out there that’s going to science up what’s best, for weeks the fru mit guide told mchs to dismantle a downtime mechanic

[worn bluff]

for example those TBs hit much harder than anything in intermission so it doesn’t really make sense to hold 40% for them. not really a party dependent situation

[proper cave]

Shouldn’t be much different from any other tier at week two or three tbh

[worn bluff]

the only explanation i can think of for recommending 40% in intermission is “i winged it early on that’s just what worked for me” which is fine

it just goes back to me saying he’s a strat guy not a mit guy. not saying he doesn’t know how mits work, just that it’s not the focus of his guides

[tulip wraith]

i feel like i read somewhere that this tier is tuned with the extra weeks between in mind

[true beacon]

They weren’t

[jolly flume]

yoshida said that yes

[tulip wraith]

conflicting answers

but good to know i didnt make that up

[shy obsidian]

ooooh what do you guys think about these earringsd

[worn bluff]

i saw someone was saying that they claimed to nerf P8S by 1% but it was actually 6% or something

so sometimes what they say isn’t accurate

[jolly flume]

I mean how can we even know yet

the tier isn't out

but that is what he said

I'll believe it when I see it I guess

[worn bluff]

yeah i just mean when they say they accounted for something

doesn’t mean they properly accounted for it

[quick verge]

“yoshida said”

sheep

never believe what he says

this either gonna be the anabaseios of lhw or the gordias of gordias

[dull drum]

"sometimes"

[quick verge]

put it on everyone’s soul

[dull drum]

how much dev resources went into going into a worthless strategy board man

🥀

that could have been my legacy ult weapons

[worn bluff]

i hope every floor has the dps check of p8s

[remote gate]

ball crushing tier

[dull drum]

strategy board has one up on duty recorder just because i can put memes in it

[remote gate]

starting with the ball crusher boss

[dull drum]

otherwise itd be the same level as duty recorder in terms of uselessness

[jolly flume]

it better be ball crushing

[remote gate]

imagine if the m9s boss has a tankbuster called testicle smasher

[worn bluff]

we need the tier to take longer to last til 8.0

[remote gate]

all i want is m9s to not have a bullshit mechanic like levinstrike summoning or harrowing hell

[vapid path]

P9s lc be upon ye

[remote gate]

fuck

about to watch me choke the mechanic over and over

[random needle]

I like how her first adds phase is just that one doohickey from SpongeBob

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-spike-roller-crushed-steamroller-spongebob-squarepants-gif-13971184719592992995

[fierce matrix]

those were good mechs tho wdym

[versed kayak]

The strategy board may at least be slightly useful for console players

Anything but watching someone in my static make a raidplan on their ipad

[fierce matrix]

i need another harrowing hell type mech please

purge the people quickly from pf

[rapid whale]

are yall ready for wb1 in a savage

alongside a hand of pain

[fierce matrix]

no itll be WB2 with cauterize

they ride boards together

[rapid whale]

https://tenor.com/view/why-dont-we-have-both-both-celebrate-happy-gif-4997058

[fierce matrix]

and then crashed down

ALL AT THE SAME TIME

[rapid whale]

oh dude

the scene where they fuse and a bunch of raid wides

you have to have both debuffs or gg die from dmg

[fierce matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/ffxiv-dkt-dsr-top-gif-9114589594261147144

[rapid whale]

how did they film that lol

replace alpha omega and the arena?

[fierce matrix]

yeah

[rapid whale]

@fierce matrix so you know how fire hitting water caused steam explosions -> what if that also applies during cauterize so you gotta like puzzle out h ow to place the earlier stack fire puddle + space people out from their own steam explosion

[fierce matrix]

well

uh

do you know about the datamined debuff icons

[remote gate]

i choked the hell out of levinstrike and harrowing hell had horror stories in pf

[fierce matrix]

good it makes you a better player

those mechs are what should be the normal

[remote gate]

id like to think im a better player than I was back in ew so maybe id be able to do it now

[rapid whale]

no

[fierce matrix]

okay

then i shush

[rapid whale]

i mean idm

[remote gate]

share with the class

[vapid path]

Trying to share perchance?

[jagged aspen]

i mean yea swift is on cd, so they just let dps stay dead for a minute?

[jolly flume]

depends how mean I'm feeling that day

[thin fox]

oh do you have these available

i haven't seen them

[fierce matrix]

damn

everyone wants this

[boreal pumice]

time for bribes

[jolly flume]

do I get shot if I just post them here

actually I get shot for doing anything here

nvm

[fierce matrix]

rules state only in the #1062567708333453362 thread

[boreal pumice]

someone posted the brothers icon last week

[jolly flume]

brothers icon should've been

[fierce matrix]

#1450335852336255061 message

There

[rapid whale]

Wtf

[low hearth]

This tier might be hard asf

[jolly flume]

hope so

[dull drum]

dropping my 100% acc prediction

it’ll be medium difficulty

[rapid whale]

even if it's hard you'll h ave old heads saying xyz raid was harder because they were worse players back then smile

[boreal pumice]

calling chiyo old

[shadow pilot]

Back in my days the xyz raids were harder you young children are so weak smh /j

[jolly flume]

i'm not old

in an xiv context im turbo zoomer

[dull drum]

idk they added new hall of novice training a while back

didnt do shit

i still get troglodytes

[jolly flume]

should be a 200 question written exam and a practical overseen by a raider to earn your duty finder license

on god fr

[rain geode]

I think I'm gonna stick to my guns and play SCH this tier

[boreal pumice]

guns are for mch

[rain geode]

I mean SGE also uses laser guns

[low hearth]

I'M SINISTER, UNDER YOUR SKIN 🗣️

IN LACE AND LEATHER 🗣️

[rain geode]

Although bringing up gives me doubts again

Maybe I'll just flip a coin on Monday lmao

[low hearth]

Play whatever job you’re most comfortable on

[fierce matrix]

@jolly flume I live rent free in his head

[worn bluff]

i’m most comfortable on PLD but i don’t want to be a one trick so i’m playing other stuff

[jagged aspen]

are they saying that unironically?

[fierce matrix]

yeah

[worn bluff]

are they saying this in limsa shout

[jagged aspen]

has to be

[rain geode]

Well thats the hard part im not sure what Im more comfortable on

[low hearth]

like whatever job u have the most fun on or play the most

for me it was paladin last tier but now im washed on that job

[dull drum]

should ask if he misses top

blud is still on p4

[wintry elbow]

i practiced Hell on Rails on the normal version and i almost did good. but i am all geared up and got the food, i will practice a bit more then try the extreme 😄

[boreal pumice]

sadly normal isnt going to teach you much at best your learn the difference between suck an blow , and listening for arcane revlation

[wintry elbow]

I was good with seeing the diamond and hands, i was good seeeing where the ghost train stopped, i saw the orbs, i could see top and bottom thing. I even feel doing it again will help more. 😄

[tulip wraith]

does normal even have orbs??

[boreal pumice]

no it doesnt do pairs or spread

[tulip wraith]

yeah thats what i thought

[tulip wraith]

idk what orbs youre seeing then

[boreal pumice]

at most the suck an blow is to avoid the dmg from the suck at the front and blow back avoid lasers i think thats in normal

[tulip wraith]

yeah it has suck and blow, turrets, lasers, AR, the concept of intermission, and up and down

[wicked delta]

I’ll ask next time I see him

[boreal pumice]

i did a normal myself only relvant thing i learned was the sound for arcane revo knowing when to go

[wintry elbow]

oh, i saw 4 orbs at the start. is that not the same?

[true beacon]

In ex or normal

[tulip wraith]

these are not the orbs if thats what youre talking about

[wintry elbow]

wasn't those. i might be wrong then

[tulip wraith]

better front view

[wintry elbow]

they were smaller

[boreal pumice]

think your confusing mechs

[wintry elbow]

it was just at the start of the fight and i only saw them once

[true beacon]

Have you gone into the ex

[wintry elbow]

haven't done the extreme yet. Still going to practice more

[true beacon]

What job

[wintry elbow]

blm

[boreal pumice]

doing normal isnt exactly going to get you anywhere , watch a hector vid , look at the raid plan slide show go in try do what you remeber and improve on what you fuck up

[true beacon]

Does Unlimited Express do damage in normal

[wintry elbow]

i am not the best at video games so normal and hectors video is helping a lot. 🙂

[boreal pumice]

abit but not big dmg like it does on ex

[true beacon]

Yeah any lacking mits in close to minimum gear will squash you

As I’ve seen

Plenty

[boreal pumice]

im usually on brd so pop my mit for that /shock wave then i use it freely

[true beacon]

Have you done any ex content before

[wintry elbow]

never done ex content before

[true beacon]

Should just jump both feet first

[boreal pumice]

your kinda training yourself the wrong way for things that arent there

[true beacon]

And damage that’s more than what you’re expecting

[boreal pumice]

i ironically went a different way after doing shiva ex so many times i got ppl killed with icebrand

[worn bluff]

it can be intimidating jumping into your first EX but just go for it. you’ll find that a lot of people make mistakes not just you

[boreal pumice]

this was aerids and my first ex on patch , now were farming em

[wintry elbow]

but if i mess up, won't i get kicked out of the party and get everyone killed?

[tulip wraith]

[true beacon]

Depends on the mech

And the fight

[worn bluff]

if you mess up you may get someone killed, but that’s normal while learning these fights

[boreal pumice]

people will be lenient at first you can make mistakes but learn from them is the important bit

[worn bluff]

as long as you’re not joining parties that list a further progress point than you’re up to

[tulip wraith]

i was in a clear party for 2 hours and only thing that happened was someone rage quit cause we didnt clear once

if youre in a prog party people will be incredibly lenient

[true beacon]

There aren’t as many body checks as at the same time in EW

[tulip wraith]

they're joining with the knowledge people are learning

[boreal pumice]

i did pratice from start to finish took me 1 hr got it done now i farm

[tulip wraith]

about same

[boreal pumice]

sometimes join a c41

[tulip wraith]

we got to final cart like 5th pull but some people were still fumbling so we didnt clear

second pf i joined we cleared in 30

my only recommendation is dont join a pf doing cheese

its a curse

[finite plank]

decided to look at some old clips, here's a cursed DF extreme mm when it was still in the high end tab

[boreal pumice]

i honestly never joined a brain ded/cheese since it kinda shouts you cant do mechs

good ol jp and their DF

[dull drum]

ive heard varying levels of success from a friend whos grinding it

but he usually prefers normal method because you can still get near full uptime during that mech if you're not a pussy

[half holly]

Hi endgame chat

[versed kayak]

so many ninjas

[boreal pumice]

i rather just do it normally no need to overthink it , hell if you wanted on arcane rev you can make the guy knows what their doing

[lucid nest]

It does work... but it's boring honestly. More engaging to actually do the normal method considering the fight is relatively chill

[boreal pumice]

oh im sure it works otherwise ppl woulnt do it but its just eh

[lucid nest]

Also potentially losing a dps lb for a tank lb sucks

🥹

[dull drum]

or yknow a healer LB if some dingus fucks it up

[lucid nest]

Yep

[worn bluff]

i mean it’s an extreme too so it doesn’t matter if you lose some uptime

just do the mechanic

[lucid nest]

This lol

I've kidna stopped farming as much now that brain dead is the preferred strat of pf

[robust shoal]

Braindead rev is kinda based

you just sit there and mit first or second hit

and if you're a tank you smash that lb for the third

Why do a mechanic when you can instead not do a mechanic

[lucid nest]

Enjoyment of playing

And I don't trust my tanks

[fierce matrix]

Its easier to do the mech then press mit

Unironically

[robust shoal]

Bro mit is one button

[finite plank]

people dont want to lb if it hurts them

[robust shoal]

Or two if you're a tank

[fierce matrix]

Also

[finite plank]

it is easier to press mit than do the mech

[fierce matrix]

You have to press tank LB if its front right right

[finite plank]

i tried healing it as shield healer

[fierce matrix]

Or front front right

Im not pressing tank lb

Sorry

[finite plank]

it is easy assuming the other half does the mits fine even with 2-3 vuln

[robust shoal]

It's impossible for one corner to get hit three times

[fierce matrix]

It is not LOL

Front front right

Its rare but happens

If its front front left you can still survive cause tanks and mit

But if party gets hit you will die

Unless you tank lb2

[robust shoal]

It's impossible to get front front right, that would be 11 moves

It can only move 8

[finite plank]

just tank lb2, it is going to be a parse run for dps anyways when farming

[fierce matrix]

Sorry

Right front front

[tawdry delta]

@robust shoal are you doing full blind again this tier

[fierce matrix]

Either way

[robust shoal]

Right front fron would be impossible too, that would be 10 moves

[vestal hollow]

[robust shoal]

yeah

It's impossible to hit either of the front corners three times in 8 moves

The back corners can get hit 3x though iirc

[finite plank]

i only have 775 weapon on sge

[robust shoal]

sorry three times*

[finite plank]

and 760 everything else

[robust shoal]

twice is possible

[fierce matrix]

Either way, no pressing mit is too hard. Its stupid to require a fucking mit plan and less mit stuff when you can keep full uptime and the mech is literally fucking braindead

Anyone who does braindead is just a bad player imo

[finite plank]

tell that to the entire jp center

[fierce matrix]

Okay

I will

[robust shoal]

I do braindead

[finite plank]

i didn't even plan the mits

[boreal pumice]

does jp do brain ded

[finite plank]

i can actually just react to what i have

yes

even in df

[robust shoal]

jp is big on braindead yea

[finite plank]

they can do it fine

[fierce matrix]

The reason why we had hitboxes the size we had in EW is because of shit like braindead AR

They see this shit

Go "oh too much friction players dont like it"

And then make themis

I guarantee you if they had a DD for this people wouldnt be doing it

[finite plank]

guess what happened in p1

[fierce matrix]

Im assuming you mean p1s

[finite plank]

take the dd

[fierce matrix]

And the tank strat?

Yeah

And guess what

The whole pf revolted

[finite plank]

for you? sure, for us? we don't care that much and still reclear on pf

[wintry elbow]

So i hit the duty complete or it says there is pratice on the extreme, i didn't know it had that

[finite plank]

you're free to keep complaining and insisting about this being an issue when people figured out how and can do it

[robust shoal]

A lot of people did DD intemp sadly

[finite plank]

i can do it on high end df and guess what, i've even witnessed a double whm somehow doing it

[fierce matrix]

Yeah, dont ask me to take a DD cause an rphys do a simple mech. Im blacklisting and partying with people who can do the mechs. Because here's the thing, if you cant keep uptime and do a baby ass mech im not gonna trust you to do the other baby ass mechs the rest of the fight has.

[vestal hollow]

im not seeing much of a revolt over cheesing ar

[fierce matrix]

Yeah because there is enough non cheese parties

[finite plank]

the most ass comp was raw healing sch that would then excel in braindead because they already know who's going to recit spreadlo and have so much mit

[fierce matrix]

And people are farming

The issues with p1s was that day 1 was full of normal parties

Day 2 was split

By the time the weekend hit, it was only tank dd intemp

[finite plank]

get the fucking clear and move onto the rest of the floors

that's it, make it as simple as possible

[tulip wraith]

if youre looking in the duty finder, those buttons are just to set filters for what to look for in pf

[finite plank]

you want your parse to be good? parse run later

[fierce matrix]

Again, im not going to setup a party where people cant do simple mechs because if they cant do intemp im not going to be trusting someone to do the rest of the mechs. And on average people who do those parties are worse

[finite plank]

farm shit, hit boss till parse solidifies

[wintry elbow]

what does the practice do?

[fierce matrix]

Ive done a few braindead parties and every single time we've wiped to spreads before/after, not enough mit on it or people do negative dps to the point i see enrage

[finite plank]

put you into a group of people who are also practicing because they aren't experienced enough to clear

[boreal pumice]

it means practice?

[tulip wraith]

set a filter in pf that youre looking for prog parties

[fierce matrix]

Again, if you have to do those strats you more than likely are not a good enough player to clear the fight consistently anyway

[wintry elbow]

so the practice filter is called "prog parties"??

[tulip wraith]

theres no separate duty that lets you practice mechanics separately till you get it down

[fierce matrix]

P1S intemp was the same deal

[tulip wraith]

prog just means progression which means youre trying to learn and progress the fight till you clear

[finite plank]

sorry, i only did eden's promise, p1-p12 and soon m1-m12 solely through pf

and fru being mostly pf till p4-p5

[vestal hollow]

fascinating

[tulip wraith]

dont mess with whats in duty finder and just look in pf to see if theres a listing for a fresh prog

fresh meaning youre new but you've watched a guide/studied up

[finite plank]

clearly, jp just has a superior amount of players

whatever the fuck this is

[loud swift]

jp has superior players

[tulip wraith]

and other keywords like hector and static intermission (if those are the guides and strats you watched(which is pretty much the only ones to my knowledge))

[boreal pumice]

pc7

[loud swift]

reading through this chat worried that im accidentally doing some sort of cheese strat taught by my raid lead

watching a video and seeing everyone just eat damage during arcane revelation 0-0

i thought the static intermission thing was the big cheese everyone was crazy about

[finite plank]

i dont know what a static intermission thing is

[tulip wraith]

is that the other start from the raid plan for intermission?

[finite plank]

all we do is final train stop new north

adjust with eyes

[steep narwhal]

i mean at the end of the day it doesn't matter

[vestal hollow]

why would you be worried, cheesing ar is a valid solution

[boreal pumice]

guess discord doesnt like raid planner images

[vestal hollow]

don't let people tell you otherwise do the strat u like

[steep narwhal]

u wanna use the strat that allows ur group to clear the most and if cheese ar allows u to get more clears js do tht

[loud swift]

according to everyone it means im a bad player but no i believe im doing the intended method

besides its not... that hard

[clear plume]

mfs in here act like cheesing arcane is worse than cheesing age of consent laws on god

[steep narwhal]

well ppl r weird

hope this helps

i've done it both legit and with cheese

[finite plank]

people seek superiority

[steep narwhal]

it rlly doesn't matter whatever helps the group get the clear and farm

[loud swift]

i mean i got my weapon and done 5 clears already i feel pretty good about the fight anyways

[finite plank]

go seek superiority over content by doing ultimates to the point it's too easy for you

[steep narwhal]

ppl just want to be elitist and be like oh i'm cooler bc im doing it LEGIT

yeah

and i'm cooler bc i have the mount

and u don't

[loud swift]

too lazy to do it that many times

[steep narwhal]

have fun farming!

[finite plank]

some people would say lmao fru is easy because i managed to reclear fru 3 times through pf

even though i ate shit

[kind elm]

i think cheese ar is a dumb strat but moreso in the sense i think its dumb that its possible

i dont like it but like ofc ppl are gonna do it when you make the aoe do 2 whole damage

[jagged aspen]

like that guy

[robust shoal]

It's the fun kind of dumb

or funny

[worn bluff]

i don’t think AC cheese is that bad (i think higher ilvl/unsync will probably prefer it). it’s just that the mechanic is so easy that it’s kind of weird it emerged as a strat so quickly

[jagged aspen]

its not that its hard, it just forces downtime

which people dont like

[finite plank]

i dont have the mental capacity or time to achieve more than 4(?) clears of fru anymore

[steep narwhal]

huge agree queen

[jagged aspen]

that was uwu, i sure hope nobody has 2k fru clears yet

[kind elm]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-psychicpebbles-pim-smiling-friends-pim-mr-boss-gif-1373626090718171797

[vestal hollow]

id rather do the consistent strat that's easier to do in repetition brain off in farm than one that likely results in people dying or a wipe

am i saying this is god's gift to earth no

[steep narwhal]

i'm ngl guys i'm gonna do the strat that lets me see the clear screen at the end

[vestal hollow]

kinda wild to say people dont deserve to clear if they cheese a mechanic though, a clear is a clear

[finite plank]

new mechanic, multiple harrowing hells

[clear plume]

My static melee was talking about how much he loves fru and it’s the best fight he’s ever done and I was so confused but then in derust prep for new tier he had first clear bonus on p4 and p8 and suddenly it made sense

Bro was zoomer zoomer

[finite plank]

arcane revelation is just harrowing hell

[worn bluff]

idk i haven’t done the fight that much but i imagine it doesn’t matter that much what you do for AR. fight is so easy you should be killing almost every pull in farm party

[rain geode]

For me it's as simple as if it makes things harder for no real benefit I'm gonna call it a bad strat

[worn bluff]

we wiped like 2-3 times in 15 kills

[tulip wraith]

i just prefer non cheese cause i find the cheese strat parties to be cursed for me

[clear plume]

You can have half the party die to AR and you’re gonna clear fine so like

[finite plank]

as long as no one fucks up intermission, it's a clear

[vestal hollow]

opposite for me i just press buttons and chill

as tank

[rain geode]

It's just the white mage problem where it's (perceived as) easier so worse player gravitate to it.

[tulip wraith]

prog party that did cheese didnt clear
prog i did no cheese cleared fast
coincidence?

/hj

[worn bluff]

seeing “mb” 5x a pull in chat but no wipes

[clear plume]

mb

[wintry elbow]

i do like the names you guys come up with. Cheese me some progs! 😄

[jolly flume]

this white mage job is so fucking easy lol

[loud swift]

click buttons to heal!

click buttons to damage!

easy as 1 2 3

[wintry elbow]

it says i couldn't do it cuz duty not complete, what does that mean?

[finite plank]

the game knows you haven't killed the boss before

[robust shoal]

[Duty Complete] locks it so only people who have cleared can join the PF

[vestal hollow]

cheese is objectively easier

[wintry elbow]

so i hit duty incomplete?

[finite plank]

yes

[vestal hollow]

standing still and doing nothing is easier than running around

[clear plume]

Don’t hit either

[robust shoal]

Don't use [Duty Incomplete] it does the opposite and elpers can't join

[hallow basin]

whm perceived as easier as in literally easier

[amber fable]

Duty incomplete will only be those who never cleared

Just do duty completion

[dapper zealot]

or you know, practice

[wintry elbow]

i am confused now, it won't let me do duty completion, so i hit duty incomplete?

[amber fable]

Completion

[steep narwhal]

are u trying to make a fresh prog party?

[amber fable]

Never incomplete

[finite plank]

til, i didn't know duty incomplete was that usel-

[amber fable]

Its noob trap

[clear plume]

Whm is actually the hardest healer bc you not only have to fight the boss you have to fight the allegations

[finite plank]

wait

[amber fable]

Ngl

[finite plank]

that's only an option for savage

not ex, no?

[wintry elbow]

haha, i am trying to do the extreme 😄

[steep narwhal]

u don't need to mark it as incomplete or complete... can just leave it blank so anyone can join

can also put like practice + new players welcome and stuff

if ur doing fresh

[dapper zealot]

practice is literally right there for prog

[steep narwhal]

leave the incomplete/complete buttons alone for now

they're stinky

[finite plank]

there's a duty incomplete for ex?

[steep narwhal]

smell bad for prog

[wintry elbow]

it won't let me unselet them

[amber fable]

Yes it exist for all duties

[wintry elbow]

its either duty complete or incomplete

[finite plank]

show us a pic on what you're trying to select

[tulip wraith]

dont look in the duty finder, do this in party finder

[wintry elbow]

i am on high end duty finder

[tulip wraith]

don't be

[amber fable]

What you are thinking is weekly unclaimed

People use that for savage loot

[dapper zealot]

never use duty finder for highend

[wintry elbow]

i got a row that says duty comlete or duty incomplete and another row of duty completion or pratice

[steep narwhal]

u need to be on party finder never use duty finder for extreme or savage

[tulip wraith]

the buttons in duty finder are just to set preset filters for pf

[amber fable]

Party finder

[tulip wraith]

go to party finder with no filters for a better view for everything

[finite plank]

close it, open chat, type in /partyfinder

[wintry elbow]

ok, i typed that in, now i have a list

[versed kayak]

what does the high end DF thing even do? put you in a random PF?

[amber fable]

Random df

[steep narwhal]

it's literally just duty fonder

[amber fable]

Pf is premade

Cant join those

[steep narwhal]

so ur just queuing for hours for something thts never gonna pop

[amber fable]

Unless pf people queue in df

[finite plank]

queue you with randoms but specifically for people that already cleared cause they already know the full fight

[versed kayak]

oh, so how do the settings work then

[dapper zealot]

You can ignore the entire right side

[finite plank]

assuming people know how it works

[steep narwhal]

u select what ur prog is + everything and then u queue in... it's used in JP but no one else uses

[versed kayak]

silly

[tulip wraith]

its also preset pf filters. if you select the options then press the little pf number next to the duty, it opens up pf with those settings you had selected

i did it just last night for curiosity

[wintry elbow]

is there a youtube on how to use this party finder?

[versed kayak]

I...doubt it?

[dapper zealot]

bro it's not hard to use

[amber fable]

Uhh just read this

Read

The things

[wintry elbow]

ok

[finite plank]

someone ingame just show them the full pic of each page of pf

im not on

[amber fable]

In description type "from start" if you're just starting

[steep narwhal]

what guide are they using

or are they blind

[wintry elbow]

what does the "one player per job" mean?

[steep narwhal]

did we get ddosed like 5 min ago

[tulip wraith]

theyve watched a guide i believe

[jolly flume]

I think playing this job is making me actively stupider

[daring pine]

means you can't have stuff like 2 vipers in the party

[amber fable]

One job per player like only 1 samurai or red mage

[daring pine]

no duplicate jobs

[tulip wraith]

they were talking about the orb mechs earlier

[wintry elbow]

how would i know another blm already signed up?

[clear plume]

Me on smn (I’d do it again)

[amber fable]

Etc

[tulip wraith]

this is you creating one, so there would be no one but you

[jolly flume]

no like I can actually feel the top of my skull caving in

[daring pine]

If you're joining another pf you can see what jobs are in it beforehand

[jolly flume]

hurr durr. afflatus rapture.

[steep narwhal]

make sure you create it on the job you want to play. copy my layout completely ignore the right side dont touch it

[amber fable]

For fresh you can remove that one player per job

[dapper zealot]

Everything in this shot are the only important things for you right now, ignore everything else

[wintry elbow]

can i join one? i see 8 lists for hell on rails

[amber fable]

See the description

[steep narwhal]

if you see one that says fresh yes

[amber fable]

What they are saying

[tulip wraith]

if theyre not clear parties yes

[wintry elbow]

some say loot and some say practice

[amber fable]

Do practice

[steep narwhal]

check the description

[daring pine]

practice

[tulip wraith]

find a practice one that is missing a caster

[steep narwhal]

does it say FRESH

[amber fable]

But still read

[daring pine]

and make sure it says fresh in the description

[steep narwhal]

also

[amber fable]

Whaf desc says

[dapper zealot]

send us a screenshot of the listings

[steep narwhal]

you should be pfing in aether

[wintry elbow]

they have words like fresh and static

[steep narwhal]

if they say fresh

[amber fable]

Okay

[steep narwhal]

u can join

[amber fable]

Fresh

[wintry elbow]

i am on ps5

[amber fable]

Static is static intermission

[dapper zealot]

use your phone

[wintry elbow]

i will join a practice one, but how do i know they don't have a blm?

[true beacon]

You’ll see it

[amber fable]

You can hover over icons

[boreal pumice]

slide sigh 6 7 for static inter,ission https://raidplan.io/plan/5yf4k7f25gcptpc7

[amber fable]

If you see blm

[dapper zealot]

You can see it right here

[wintry elbow]

one has practice and your cheese in it. maybe i should join that one

[amber fable]

Then that party has blm

[steep narwhal]

you can only join the one

that says fresh

if they dont say fresh

do not join

it's a later prog point

[dapper zealot]

Have you studied the fight yet?

[wintry elbow]

oh i had to click it to see the jobs and that one had a blm already

i have studied the fight and geared up and practiced on the dummys

[amber fable]

Okay good to go then

[wintry elbow]

and did a practice on normal

[dapper zealot]

ok good

[wintry elbow]

so i need one that says practice and fresh and cheese that doesn't have a blm?

[tulip wraith]

cheese or no cheese, it just depends how they want to do arcane revolution

[wintry elbow]

cheese means people are not searious? i forgot what cheese meant

[steep narwhal]

dont worry about cheese

it's a later issue

[steep narwhal]

cheese is just the strat name

[tulip wraith]

no cheese means do as guide says, cheese means you stack 2 tanks top left, 6 the rest top right and heal and mit

as dps you just sit top right and look pretty

use mit and addle/feint if needed

[steep narwhal]

like this means fresh (new to fight) hector (watch hector guide) static (do static intermission) and cheese (stand top right during arcane revolution)

[amber fable]

Arcane revelation is the mech

[worn bluff]

basically if there is more than one strat for certain mechanics, they will say which one in the description

[wintry elbow]

what is static intermission?

[tulip wraith]

the add orb with the circling train around you

[amber fable]

Intermission phase

[kind elm]

static intermission is just another strat name

[steep narwhal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEIEcWIpJ00

[wintry elbow]

ty

is there a cheese youtube also?

[kind elm]

99% of the time, anything in a PF description is just a strat name

[amber fable]

Watch hector guide

It has everything

[steep narwhal]

for cheese just follow the party and stand top right... youll know when it's time for cheese bc youll see your whole party stand top right

[wintry elbow]

got it

and again, thank you everyone 🙂 This is a lot of help.

[tulip wraith]

no its not really a strat to study, you just stand top right and attack

as blm addle if the boss doesnt already have the debuff and attack is about to go off, and manaward if the aoe is gonna land on you

then you get to stand still for like 20 seconds just doing your rotation

[dapper zealot]

Worry about that later when you get to it, ask the party about it

[worn bluff]

if it doesn’t look like english it’s a strat

bilibili maxwell

updog

[jolly flume]

maybe white mage is too hard for me after all

[random needle]

The issue is that the WHM job stone is like the orb of confusion from SpongeBob

Remove the stone and you should do better :3

[jolly flume]

HAHAHAA

[kind elm]

this guy just gets free DSR totems

[soft oracle]

what

[low hearth]

A physical remembrance of war, loss, and longing.

[jolly flume]

yeah I get them through sheer aura

[kind elm]

🥀

bro has gms in his sleeves

[worn bluff]

hey i lost 18 totems too pls restore

[amber fable]

Should ask 21

For all jobs

[kind elm]

i still have 2 dsr totems sitting in my saddlebag

surely

surely pct and vpr get dsr weps right

haha

surely.

[clear plume]

It’s actually a clever reference to the fact that there is nothing holy about pct

[dapper zealot]

lol wut

[clear plume]

Personally I prefer my party members over 18 not just 10 but they can do whatever

[jolly flume]

[tulip anvil]

this party feels like a red flag

i tried checking their logs but theyre hidden

[torn kindle]

How do you accidentally throw away 18 fucking totems

[low hearth]

happens

[rain geode]

well Ive seen 3 wings in the past 10 pulls

[clear plume]

Tbf diff between them and a random old ex totem isn’t much

[tulip anvil]

nvm i was looking wrong he has 13 clears of the fight

its weird how he wants 20 kills when he only has 13 kills

[clear plume]

Bc he’s the one paying people but unironically

[tulip anvil]

his best in the fight is a green, hes normally a gray parser tho

ill join but ill keep an eye out for his performance

[jolly flume]

cloudflare warp diff

[dull drum]

i survived without warp

thoughts?

im built dif

[jolly flume]

ur cali

cheater

[dull drum]

so is bapple

[jolly flume]

idk ddos is racist

[clear plume]

exitlag diff went crazy for me too fr

[amber fable]

3pp to not dc

[clear plume]

(Issue is I wanted to swap to my alt soon though)

[sly basin]

i hope u get wingussy

[low hearth]

gonna use cloudfare now I guess

[rain geode]

I just want this last train totem

[tawdry delta]

exitlag or cloudflare warp mandatory for w1 prog

no install = kick from pf or static

[amber fable]

Or just dont be in na

Simple as

Dc debuff is real

Imagine you lose w1 race because you dced at 0.5%

[quick verge]

eu's last w1st needed like 5 na players btw

still gonna get rinsed by a region getting throttled every .8s

[clear plume]

My group had people run a system diagnostic to make sure parts aren’t breaking and make sure you have backup internet sources, outside of power going out nothing shall interfere

But also yeah cloudflare warp is free, if u can’t spend the 3 minutes setting it up you should be booted from w1 static that’s screaming volumes about the type of person you r

[quick verge]

mcdonalds wifi clutch

[clear plume]

My house had its gigabit installed into a different slot than my old wifi so if it goes out my old modem is still connected with 300 Mbps backup, for everybody else it’s mainly making sure they have hotspot with data plus practicing using it to make sure they know how and it works

[jolly flume]

bro

dont remind me

[rain geode]

aaaand we done

[low hearth]

nice

[rain geode]

saw 4 wings but rolled bad on all of them so now I have to wait forever but at least I in theory have it

[jagged aspen]

i have 1 zelenia totem send help 😐

[rain geode]

Maybe Ill learn an earlier ex I really want a pair of wings

[true beacon]

Vali is pretty joke now

Zoraal Ja already was

More than msq already clowned on him

[tulip wraith]

ive done valigarmanda and zoraal ja both were very easy

[sick reef]

how are people still panicking and wiping in cart 5 🔥

[sick reef]

99 to go

[clear plume]

only 98

[sick reef]

o right u need 99 🔥

[worn bluff]

cart 5 doesn't even have any mechanics

[sick reef]

and people still panic the moment they see circle on em, its insane how "use eyes" is a lost art

[shy obsidian]

do yall have a particular triple triad deck you like to use

[tulip wraith]

i use whatever the plugin tells me is good

cause deck usage depends on rules more than anything

[loud swift]

I just like collecting the cards i suck at triple triad

[whole estuary]

the evil corners of 8 and 9

all the way around

[rapid whale]

wahoo

[amber fable]

Look at this mf winning ornate a week before

[dapper zealot]

easy 10+ mil

[amber fable]

20

Easy

[true beacon]

I mean the smart thing is to save it for 8.0 savage

[amber fable]

8.0?

You can tbf

[shy obsidian]

for, uh, selling or for using?

[amber fable]

Selling

Because their value isnt much post week 1

[ember quartz]

i am tweaking tf out with these OC accessories

rarer than cassie

[rapid whale]

My friend spent like 20 hrs if not more and has only gotten one ring

[boreal pumice]

I have 2x deep magic rings 2x deep blood ring , 1 magic ring 1 blood ring 1 blood necklace

[sick reef]

ive maxed out 2 of the 3 new jobs and ive only seen 1 ring and it was a magic one lol

[shy obsidian]

why is everyone like "no cheese" for the train

what kinda fucked up strat did they cook up for Arcane Revelation that cauesd peeps to not want it

[boreal pumice]

It’s just standing in the corner like a bitch using mits

[rain geode]

2:6 you just have the tanks go Northwest and everyone else go Northeast and press all your mit buttons

[ember quartz]

its not really that its just that like why cheese arcane when the mechanic is just pressing wasd

and its not like melees lose a ton of uptime doing it normally

[proper cave]

I'm still of the opinion that it was named cheese/braindead out of spite

[boreal pumice]

What would you call it kitchen sink

[ember quartz]

call it stupid

[proper cave]

Ye lol

[ember quartz]

its like going in o12n and saying "hey the marker aoe and the stack together sink mits and use tank lb2"

[rain geode]

2:6

[shy obsidian]

so wait
which part of Arcane Revelation does the cheesy thing happen

[terse zodiac]

whole thing

[ember quartz]

all of it u just go like a clown to a corner and mit

[rain geode]

the entire mechanic

[sick reef]

instead of normally going into lps and dodge the big aoe, u just sit in corners and dump mits

[shy obsidian]

sounds lame ngl

but uh

i think I'm gonna get past Runaway Train soon

remembering everything after that is gonna be hard...

[amber fable]

Its not

Doom train start is harder

Arcane is not even a actual mech

Post intermission is much chiller fight

Beside using sprint for derailment

[rain geode]

I was gonna say Intermission is the hardest mechanic after that your kinda golden

unless you do 2:6 then Arcane rev becomes the hardest mechanic

[amber fable]

Like as a tank I can solo live stack

Just gotta mit it

[rapid whale]

wow i got ex1 wings too lucky day today

[rain geode]

nice

[trim frost]

there's really nothing hard about doing arcane rev normally

just watch the diamond's direction of movement and get to your spot when you hear the lasers

[rain geode]

I actually hate arcane rev 2:6 more then I used to

I used to be like "ok well the start at least makes some sense if your melee and want to parse" but then a WAR in my normal rev party got a 99 so clearly it doesnt matter for that either

[amber fable]

As a tank you can greed a lot

Even on normal ar

[trim frost]

yeah

even the position where you need to move backwards you can just greed that gcd

worst case you eat a singular vuln

[hasty lodge]

I managed to beat ex3 yesterday :D got myself the weapon after 4 more clears, checked my stats thinking I played okay and parsed something like 8, 9, 11 and then 37 and 48, so I guess I got better at least (WHM/SCH)

[rapid whale]

v nice

improving always feels good

[hasty lodge]

Only my 2nd ex also, I beat Wuqor La Dor once or twice but that felt much easier

Although I quickly remembered that the worse my team plays the worse my parse is, if I have to waste gcds healing and mitigating damage from unresolved mechanics, so even though I could have played better rather we win and I have a shit parse than we wipe because I wanted to weave gcds

[true beacon]

Well Vali was the first ex

[rapid whale]

yeah gear check is a real thing

[jagged aspen]

youre parsing against people in current bis gear so dont expect much until you have it yourself

Your lottery number is 92.
💀

[hasty lodge]

I have current BiS gear ;×;

I was ilvl 771 at the time and after the weapon drop 773

[rapid whale]

it's also your 2nd difficult fight ever

[hasty lodge]

Yeah not going to beat myself up over it, just happy to have beat it!

[rapid whale]

yaya

improvement is the fun

[fierce matrix]

hey my mentality is that you can only go up from where you are at right

[amber fable]

Man playing rpr...i remember why I stopped playing it

Ugghh

[fierce matrix]

even if its low you cleared too and ima be real there is SO many people who cant clear them

shockingly so

[rain geode]

Clear > Parse

[amber fable]

But my eclout

[fierce matrix]

do you know what community you are talking to

[rain geode]

any mmo community yeh I know

[fierce matrix]

lmao

[jagged aspen]

you said you got the weapon so i assumed you werent 😮

or uh, you said ex3 weapon

which is ilvl 725

[deft yarrow]

just witnessed a genuine summoner momento

[fierce matrix]

i love ifrit dash

[jagged aspen]

why summoner momento, plenty of jobs have a dash 😮

[dull drum]

the truth is you can still get uptime doing normal dodges

just greed if you care that much about gcds

[rain geode]

turns out

[dull drum]

prob easier for melee dps too because most of them have movement tools to pt members/non player target movement

[trim frost]

your sfx is so quiet it's scaring me

[fierce matrix]

Yeah its full uptime lmao

[hasty lodge]

Is Ex3 not hell on rails?

[fierce matrix]

for like 2.40-2.5 jobs its so free

[trim frost]

no

ex3 is sphene

[fierce matrix]

brother thats EX6 or EX7

[dull drum]

fs its not hard at all

[trim frost]

laugh

[jagged aspen]

ex1 = valigarmanda
ex2 = everkeep
ex3 = sphene
ex4 = zelenia
ex5 = necron
ex6 = train

[fierce matrix]

some people include arkveld

[rain geode]

ex5.5 arkveld

[zealous meteor]

some people say arkveld is ex6 and thomas is ex7

personally i think arkveld is ex5.5

to annoy both sides

[jagged aspen]

yea those people are wrong

[finite plank]

just go back to calling names if you cant figure out which number it is

[jagged aspen]

xd

[random needle]

Reminds me of a tank that kept using Primal Rend during car 2 of train, then dying, then I get targeted for a TB as BLM

[hasty lodge]

Yeah I'll just call it Train Ex

[finite plank]

who knows if this is what solus did

[rain geode]

I think it should be ex7 but what can ya do if everyone else wants to call it a certain way

[jagged aspen]

almost as wrong as people that call arcadion R

[fierce matrix]

Best part is most melee classes have a ranged attacked thats neutral for damage or part of their rotation

[hasty lodge]

People call Arcadion R? xD

[fierce matrix]

or just like six sided if you are really fucked

[jagged aspen]

idk, drg ranged is poop

[random needle]

Wind's Reply

[trim frost]

enhanced pt save me

[fierce matrix]

You normally run 2.5 so weaving isn't really an issue either

[rain geode]

Arcadion is M

[jagged aspen]

someone tried to push R for arcadion

or well, some people still try to

[fierce matrix]

its only at faster GCD speeds when it can be a lil more annoying to deal with uptime

or just do the funny mnk thunderclap

[random needle]

I still think it should be R, but at this point I see the futility in trying to push against the grain

[jagged aspen]

but if you have to ranged, its poop

[fierce matrix]

like people would do in m3s

you dont tho

is what im saying LOL

[rain geode]

I think R is the worse option I think the best is we just start using 2 letter codes

AR

[hasty lodge]

Also I get it's a meme but *sister

[trim frost]

watch 8.0 raids be called some shit like mythologia and then we're all fucked

[random needle]

Calling it m mostly bothers me because Arcadion has the same naming scheme as Omega, but we don't call beetle v11

[fierce matrix]

R using the second part of the name is bad, but then what else would you call it

M is like the only one really provided to us

[trim frost]

m only exists because of how the fight names are formatted in english which is a little annoying

[random needle]

It's phonetically the first sound though

AR-cadion

[fierce matrix]

Yes, but people are not going to use phoentics to name things lmao

[trim frost]

just like AR-Caean... .wow.....

[zealous meteor]

it mostly bothers me because it's confusing for casual folks
like... yeah, for endgame raiders M3 is unambiguously light-heavyweight M3
but more casual players will use "M3" for the newest raid tier's M3

[deft yarrow]

what the next tier get X as its letter

making EVERYTHING confusing

[random needle]

I understand why we settled on the current thing and I'm not trying to push back that hard on it anymore, but it still bugs me

[fierce matrix]

I think its also like

[zealous meteor]

they should've called arcadion something else

[fierce matrix]

the naming convention is flawed in general lol

[zealous meteor]

that doesn't start with A

[fierce matrix]

cause like, Coils is T as in Turn

which is the same as the Match that we have now

[zealous meteor]

i can't wait to prog T70S week 1

[fierce matrix]

lmao

[random needle]

That one gets a pass in my head because it's ARR and they can be weirdge

[jagged aspen]

oh yea just number every fight consecutively

[fierce matrix]

But it wasn't C6S it was T6S

ya know

and they used Turns

same as we use matches

[jagged aspen]

so 1-13 is coils, 14-25 is alex, 26-37 omega etc

[zealous meteor]

i wish square enix wouldn't have reset the fight numbers every tier
so M5 would be cruiserweight M5 in-game

[jagged aspen]

we can also add trials and ults to the list for good measure

[zealous meteor]

they already did this with pandaemonium!! they have the technology!!

[versed kayak]

Numbering them consecutively is horrible for remembering tho

[random needle]

Or be like Eden and have SAT vocabulary words for each fight

[fierce matrix]

so true

[hasty lodge]

You could call them LW1-4 CW1-4 and HW1-4 to be the most pedantic

[zealous meteor]

heavensward raids 1-4

[random needle]

Umbra! Litany! Anamorphosis! Eternity!

[zealous meteor]

[fierce matrix]

the issue is that they kinda follow an actual lore thing

[jagged aspen]

at least theyre real words, unlike most ability names

[fierce matrix]

cause they do it based off matches in that weight class

which, makes sense lore wise

[jagged aspen]

what the hell is requestcat

[fierce matrix]

and tbh why change the names just so some people can have consistent naming conventions

[zealous meteor]

linux terminal command

netcat

[jagged aspen]

wait thats an actual words

[hasty lodge]

Or W for Wrestling W12S

[visual geyser]

What’s the problem with Arcadian being m

[fierce matrix]

^

you are praying for the dead...and the dead is you

[versed kayak]

I've seen some people call CW fights M1 through M4 which can cause confusion but eh

[random needle]

I'm trying to think of which ability names are not actual words

[fierce matrix]

Confiteor is also the first prayer of Mass

[zealous meteor]

yeah this is my problem with the M1-M12 naming

[versed kayak]

Half the red mage skills because french shouldn't be considered an actual language /s

[zealous meteor]

but it's only an issue if you talk to filthy casuals

[fierce matrix]

no they get an exemption cause of E33

they are on the come up

[trim frost]

going back to the naming convention thingy

if this is true then i feel like R makes even more sense to refer to "rounds"

[fierce matrix]

tell that to the translation team

[trim frost]

yeah :(

[hasty lodge]

Not very new player friendly though if its "Yeah its called R12 because of a translation error in 2025"

[fierce matrix]

but that also doesn't fix the actual issue

aka R1-R4 would be LHW, but also CW would be R1-R4 too

so

[jagged aspen]

uuh am i tripping or thats not "facing boss go right"

[versed kayak]

Well Match does seem like the better translation, you usually have multiple rounds in a match between two combatants right?

[trim frost]

omega v1-4 tho

idk

kinda wish they would just write out the word instead of abbreviating it to a letter in the duty name

[fierce matrix]

you start on the bad side

tho thats not resolving the mech either

what is that LOL

[trim frost]

but i think after names being stupid long in panda (see: p11s) they just wanted to cut down on length

[fierce matrix]

yeah, i mean it just also comes out to be we will run out of letters eventually

unless we go through EVERY fucking letter