#endgame-lounge

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rain geode
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"Without causing permanent damage" might be better for sure lol

mossy eagle
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Actually how I feel now that I can't raid on Tuesday

jolly flume
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it just kinda happened

mossy eagle
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Omega casual now

thin fox
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I stopped feeling new when I cleared p8s

mossy eagle
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Yeah after my second tier I stopped feeling new

rain geode
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I still feel Hella new

jolly flume
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I think I still felt new until lhw I guess

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even though at that point you probably couldn't consider me that

mossy eagle
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First tier: "the fuck is going on?"
Second tier: "I think I know more than these people."
Third tier and onward: "just put the clear in the bag."

thin fox
rapid whale
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yea it wasnt until i finished top/dsr that i was like, "i guess i can't call ymself new anymore"

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infact it was noble that said that to me

jolly flume
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yeah but I hadnt done anything on content yet although thats not like yknow, magically making content 5x harder

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idk just perception thing

thin fox
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"Im new Ive only cleared TOP and DSR on healer cuteSitBusiness "

fierce matrix
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it is not normal or healthy

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but is it fun?

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yes

jolly flume
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health?

fierce matrix
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its like drinking. Should I be doing it? no. But is it fun? yes

jolly flume
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im here for a good time not a long time

fierce matrix
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exactly based

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are you with your static again this tier Chiyo

jolly flume
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nah

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with noble and co

fierce matrix
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what you playing this tier?

rain geode
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Like drinking I don't do it very often but I always over do it when I do

jolly flume
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pure eeler

fierce matrix
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WHM?

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NO WAY

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HUGE

jolly flume
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just call me a slur

fierce matrix
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CHIYO HAS FALLEN

jolly flume
rain geode
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I mean it's WHM potentially better then AST with the buffs?

jolly flume
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no

fierce matrix
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lmao after ALL that fucking hate

jolly flume
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not a chance in prog

fierce matrix
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he falls

jolly flume
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I'm playing ast

fierce matrix
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skill issue

jolly flume
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being able to card and div gearfed dps

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is so big

rain geode
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I guess turbo buffing a funneled Sam is a lot

jolly flume
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whm personal will never matter until everyone is bis

rain geode
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Thays why it's like always dancer right?

jolly flume
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pretty much yeah

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you get one dps with all the gear and everyone else's job is just to suck their toes

rapid whale
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yea its abt multiplying the value of the gear u get

thin fox
fierce matrix
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BRD buffs will make it competitive atleast this tier

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but DNC is still gonna be goat most likely

thin fox
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the WHM buffs just make it less garbage and not better than AST

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AST still gaps WHM

rain geode
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Not that I have much pwwr to control that until since I'm doing my first tier in the insane asylum known as pf

jolly flume
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ast will absolutely still gap it in prog

fierce matrix
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PF isn't too bad if you do it right

jolly flume
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with full gear maybe not

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we'll see

thin fox
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you're gonna get good macro use in charybdistopia in m11 Okay

jolly flume
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I think whm is probably pretty viable for everything short of speedkills now

rain geode
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I should probably figure out exactly what I'm gonna play since it's in like a week

fierce matrix
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mit is the one thing WHM was missing

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so having Plenary with 10% is super nice

thin fox
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as someone who exclusively raids in pf, the #1 and #2 skill you need is knowledge on when to abandon a party and when to prog lie

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the GOLDEN RULE of prog lying

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it is only bad to prog lie when you get caught

fierce matrix
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just run your own parties

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ez

jolly flume
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ive said it once ill say it a million times, I'd rather have had the mit on a button that wasn't plenary but mit is mit

thin fox
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like my friend who is getting into raiding this tier

rain geode
thin fox
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her problem is that she doesn't know when to just give up on a party lol

jolly flume
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also it feels kinda weird having CU hold not perma extend your mit anymore lol

jolly flume
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they still have too much hope and belief in other people

thin fox
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its also hard to know when the mistakes are enough to not be worth

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because there are cases where its hard to tell "is this a party that can actually clear and they just need to clean a few things"

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if you run your own pfs its also valuable to know when to kick people

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because sometimes you'll have like 6 or 7 people who are good and then 1 or 2 people who are just dragging everything down, but you don't wanna disband and lose the others over it

rain geode
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Benefit to pf tho is I get to roll on loot >:3

thin fox
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its still a gamble

jolly flume
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you're pretty much guaranteed bis in a hc static by w4 or w5 anyways

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ESPECIALLY with tome upgrades that shit is beyond cancer

thin fox
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like if youre a tank or a healer in static you are the lowest prio for gear but at least its guaranteed

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if your pf luck is bad you just have to wait

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for much longer

jolly flume
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better than pitying a weapon with 8 books

thin fox
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when u have to resort to the upgraded tome weapon

rain geode
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Tome weapon is higher then ex I kinda forget that

thin fox
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base tome weapon is higher too

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base is +5 upgrade is +15

dull drum
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like warrior

thin fox
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how do i hit holmgang

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no you know what's meta stah

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play caster and accidentally click off your caster lb in dsr

dull drum
jolly flume
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lately we

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have just been not lbing meteors

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and we fail it surprisingly often

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I open the log

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and theres a dps doing less damage to the meteors than me on scholar

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😭

thin fox
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this is legit my fav clip in this game i think

dull drum
random needle
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Controller can't do that - not easily, anyway

Though you also have to keep your bars unlocked for that, so

wicked delta
thin fox
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I fucking hate lbing the meteors honestly

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Im always scared Im gonna airball that shit

jolly flume
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drop it right in the middle of the cardinal waymarks

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and tbh even if you miss 1 it doesnt matter

torn mesa
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guys is WHM good.

thin fox
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the more important question

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are white mages good

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the answer being no

fierce matrix
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thats the real question

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the class is very hard

jolly flume
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I don't know how it's possible to be bad at white mage

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but some people sure manage it

wicked delta
fierce matrix
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okay simple

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unbind pressence of mind

thin fox
jolly flume
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the shin bye comment is my favorite of all time

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"stop making white magician look difficult"

torn mesa
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while I think WHM is still worse than AST

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it's at least close enough to be a conversation

jolly flume
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neutral sect is still the craziest button in the game

rain geode
torn mesa
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are they not like... basically the same job

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except you have less tools on WHM

jolly flume
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I've always thought sage was the easiest healer personally but either way they're kinda both piss lol

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white mage is simpler, but sage you can just faceroll the keyboard and each one of your buttons just does more

rain geode
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Although a lot of that has to come from toxikon giving me free movement

jolly flume
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sage has a lot of movement but it's inversely proportional to how much you optimize

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that depends on how much you care to do so but at the end of the day you can wind up with 3 toxikons per fight and 1 phlegma every odd minute

torn mesa
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as an aside

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a side goal is to hit 50k DPS this tier

rapid whale
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Double dot the bros

torn mesa
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nah 1 target only

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people already be padding their way up to 50k in M6S

shy obsidian
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I was planning to samurai for this tier but hmm
Maybe I should try somethin else

mossy eagle
fierce matrix
torn mesa
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it's probably doable by the time we get to M12S even

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getting fed gear does wonders

shy obsidian
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Being in a static must be so nice

rain geode
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It seems like there pros and cons

thin fox
remote gate
fierce matrix
rain geode
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Like I've surprisingly gotten a few static invites and like they all wanted to do like 4-8 hours a week and I wanna run a lot more then that

remote gate
thin fox
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my problem is that I want to raid more than midcore/casual but I don't think I can commit to hardcore times lol

mossy eagle
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A 4 hr/week static sounds more painful than PF

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Unless you're literally omegacasual

thin fox
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for ulti my sweet spot is like 4h x 3-4 days

remote gate
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i wanna raid more than 8 hours a week but getting a group of eight people in a team to meet up multiple times a week is challenging

thin fox
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for savage I'd probably wanna do like 8x5

worn bluff
jolly flume
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it sucks but it is what it is, make the best of your first tier and then you'll probably have better luck

rain geode
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If I gotta clear in pf I'll clear in pf

sleek moon
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Full time job raider

jolly flume
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I think like 5 on weekdays 10-12 weekends isnt too bad

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its one week, if you can't put a week of evenings aside to clear w1 then just don't clear w1 idk

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not like its worth anything

rain geode
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Thats still like a bit less then I want to run but if a static approached me with those numbers I'd probably accept

rapid whale
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yea its just with that kinda hours they generally want at least some kind of history

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since thats a big commitment

jolly flume
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if that much time isn't enough to clear the group is like

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not good

rapid whale
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for all they know you end up hating savage and dont wanna do it etc

worn bluff
jolly flume
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joke's on you you'll still have a viper that does less damage than the healer

worn bluff
rapid whale
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it's the cleave nerfs i swear

jolly flume
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cleave nerfs are so funny

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what do you mean 85% falloff

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why even have cleave

rapid whale
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cosmetic

quick verge
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viper cleave does like

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4 digits

zealous meteor
quick verge
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like what the fuck son

zealous meteor
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that's 5 more percent per cleave neofox_uwu

quick verge
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just remove the job atp

zealous meteor
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eats the job stone

sleek moon
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That cleave nerf was definitely only tuned to the blackjack brothers and they forgot about dungeons

thin fox
quick verge
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even then

rain geode
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Alright Im offically home from work Do I want to level a job, Do OC or run some train ex

quick verge
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it’s still excessive for cleave focused fights

thin fox
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whereas I know ultimate is a commitment either way so I'd rather do it over a long period of time

quick verge
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you aren’t doing damage

rapid whale
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wait does that mean vpr's one strength, p4 fru, is gone now

quick verge
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vpr’s strength is 100 gauge smuggle p5

rapid whale
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omegalul it's even under ninja in p4 now

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lets c p5

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nothing much changed ig single target its no diff

shy obsidian
trim frost
rapid whale
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what's steering you away from sam when you wanted to @shy obsidian

shy obsidian
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I’m slowly getting used to the rotation but I’m a bit worried that I won’t be able to grasp it by the time the savage drops

jolly flume
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have you tried watching nerdge a wesk alber video nerdge

rapid whale
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i mean

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whats your metric for grasped it

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if its like pink on ex train yea maybe not by then but like

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ppl play for years on the job and never reach that level so

shy obsidian
trim frost
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tengentsumaxxing

jolly flume
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anyone wanna do uh

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one expert

trim frost
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no i hate you

thin fox
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no fuck you

jolly flume
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im CRYING

rapid whale
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okie

jolly flume
rapid whale
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im bored i join

jolly flume
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im on me alt

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one sec I gotta repair

shy obsidian
rain geode
jolly flume
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are you on aether

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I'll just put a pf up

rain geode
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I mean I can be

jolly flume
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hop on over

zealous meteor
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bad players only

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omg just for me

zealous meteor
rain geode
jolly flume
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the password is brainrot

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goodluck

zealous meteor
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huh

zealous meteor
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or 67 if a password can be less than 4 characters

trim frost
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idk i don’t know sam opti

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i just know you need to meikyo off cd

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or at least not cap stacks

pale blade
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So I woke up and the first thing I noticed was that Cooly lost his cooly and got a one-way ticket out of here

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Peas at last

low hearth
worn bluff
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i missed it what happened

shy obsidian
worn bluff
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maybe they got banned for that uwucarby

zealous meteor
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on the one hand i don't think people should be banned for opinions*

*: bigotry is not an opinion

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on the other hand i think that AR cheese enjoyers deserve to be yeeted

pale blade
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lol I wish that were the reason

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but the most likely one was that he threw another fit over not being able to post 7.4 story details outside the provided thread

zealous meteor
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it's not that hard to not post about the story for 2 weeks

worn bluff
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i saw someone make a 999ilvl PF saying ā€œif you don’t like cheese just admit you don’t know how to mitā€

sir this is an extreme why are we making PSAs about this

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just do the mechanic

rapid whale
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anything to feel superior to internet strangers

rain geode
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and now that Im already on aether maybe Ill do some train ex's

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hmnm?

jolly flume
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lol?

worn bluff
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it’s always like an extreme or first floor where people argue about dumb stuff in PF descriptions

boreal pumice
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mewpaissa think I’m gonna give train a go tomorrow, time to study hector then learn different strats

rain geode
boreal pumice
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Still best to learn it all or have a basic idea

jolly flume
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why is this new book emote from pvp series

rapid whale
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to make people like you pvp

wicked delta
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You’ll do pvpslop and you’ll like it

jolly flume
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im gonna go grief like 8 fl matches

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and it's their fault not mine

rain geode
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I need to get back into griefing pvp

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and by that I mean leveling jobs

worn bluff
jolly flume
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does the roulettes bit only count the first daily or what

boreal pumice
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Yes

zealous meteor
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yeah first daily

rain geode
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Ok I need 23 more train clears

jolly flume
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man.

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maybe its just chain lose CC angle

boreal pumice
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On daily theirs 2 type of exp displayed unless your lvling something gc pvp and series pvp

jolly flume
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I havent played a single pvp match since dt

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so idek how to play the jobs anymore lol

boreal pumice
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Play whm

true beacon
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Brd is still goated

boreal pumice
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Not that they need to learn since it’s 5 series for emote

worn bluff
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play mch

jolly flume
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god have mercy on my teammates

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šŸ™

pale blade
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Because you won't?

low hearth
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Ts is busted

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Paladin pvp cover when my machinist party member is getting jumped by 4 people

remote gate
random needle
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Every tank in FL needs to be brought to the Hague I think

remote gate
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you win

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the pvp map from dawntrail is asscheeks because its so big

shy obsidian
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Sooo how stressful is the train as a melee

low hearth
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Easy

rain geode
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It depends are you the type of melee who freak out losing 1 GCD of up time even if it doesnt really matter?

shy obsidian
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Doesn’t it feel weird getting close to the edges of the raised platforms just to do damage?

jolly flume
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lol I suck

rain geode
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not really since the AOE is telegraphed for arcane rev

remote gate
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did you get any suplex kills chiyo

jolly flume
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im just out here punching shit

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no idea what im doing

random needle
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Yeah, the AV safe zone is pretty clear, so greeding the safe spot isn't much different from any other aoe

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Light work

rain geode
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gonna join a farm party as WHM what could go wrong

remote gate
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everything

rain geode
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Has only done the fight as H2

wicked delta
clear plume
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lets go seeing live use

torn mesa
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P6S despairge

remote gate
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cachexia gaming

pale blade
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Chex Mix gaming

jolly flume
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hey I didnt turbo troll this time

visual geyser
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play sage in pvp

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trust me

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easiest and most broken job

trim frost
jolly flume
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monk is p fun idk

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I just punch people and press RP before phantom rush and sometimes press LB on someone I want to have a bad day

visual geyser
jolly flume
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maybe I should've read my LB effect

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didnt realize it guard breaks

visual geyser
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@trim frost you playint this season

jolly flume
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freedom

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excellent

visual geyser
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go 4 mount

jolly flume
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all I need is book

clear plume
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just be good at blm

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class is broken

trim frost
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tryna see if i can get uwu done before savage drop

jolly flume
shadow pilot
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*i hate uwu parties /j

dull drum
rain geode
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drat that part was functional enough and we disbanded

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I wish farm party leaded would hit us with a "Im leaving anyone else want lead"

jolly flume
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man do I go face 2

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I kinda wanna go face 2

rain geode
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face 2?

jolly flume
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femra

rain geode
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oh like your making a new char

jolly flume
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no I'm just staring down the fantasia in my inv

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need to go raen too

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4 extra starting mind...

rain geode
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dude that like actually a lot early game

pale blade
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well RIP to the one Reaper main here

rain geode
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I was almost a RPR main

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RPR is probably like my 4th most played job

worn bluff
pale blade
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I found Monk and Dragoon significantly more enjoyable

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my bad

rain geode
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Honestly my big thing was there just wasnt a comfortable place to put gallows gibbet and guilottine on my hot bar

worn bluff
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i put gallows and gibbet the same spot as gekko/kasha

teal sandal
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Oohh I was actually just in uwu

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Reached Ifrit after dashes but died to enrage from a couple people dying

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Hoping to beat it before the 4th and if not at least by my bday

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Anxious af about Titan

rain geode
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My big problem is since I started on WAR I try and keep my hot bar as similar as possible to WAR which is mostly fine except for a handful of the DPS

craggy apex
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does tempest BLU leveling method work for normal jobs

worn bluff
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shift+1 is yuki on SAM

craggy apex
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does BLU get an exp bonus for overworld mobs?

versed kayak
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BLU gets vastly more exp from overworld mobs

pale blade
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BLU gets a disproportionate XP boost from overworld mobs, this is why it works for them

craggy apex
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f

jolly flume
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there's some I wanna toggle off and some I want on but all you get is big chunks with no options

rain geode
worn bluff
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i put most oGCDs on letters

versed kayak
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I prefer the hair of A

worn bluff
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yeah i'm gonna keep that hair

rain geode
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so like for example this is my entire RPR hotbar

worn bluff
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it's mostly the light eyes idk if they work

versed kayak
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I like both eye choices tbh, could do one eye black one eye pink :D

rain geode
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I was thinking of doing two eye colors for my cat but I decided to make her eyes the same color as my own

pale blade
visual geyser
jolly flume
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I do like colored eyes usually though but I feel like they need limbal rings

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big limbal ring fan

pale blade
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I personally don’t use limbal rings

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considered them at times but always decided against it

worn bluff
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let me equip contact lenses to the glasses slot for different colors

rain geode
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yeah im seeing like 50/50 2:6 vs normal Trains so you can for now at least still find normal parties

clear plume
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you can in fact skip hc1 in p8s btw

tall field
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What ilvl needed

worn bluff
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luckily i haven't had to join any AR cheese parties

clear plume
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killed twice pre hc1/halfway through dog 1 for p1

tall field
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Snake 1? Just mit check snake ig right?

clear plume
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youd want to do it correctly but as long as one person lives yuoure fine

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so do a tank invuln at worst as long as they dont get petrified

tall field
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I see
Since the tank melees flex idk how much time we have to flex

worn bluff
jolly flume
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brown hair

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am i drooling

worn bluff
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now to spend the next 2 weeks figuring out glam

worn bluff
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this new hairstyle is bis

rain geode
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I dont know if I could give up my long hair but seeing all the people with it tempts me

jolly flume
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I love femras...

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I got the other new one

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(also kill whoever made these ribbons sit like an inch off your head)

rain geode
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Femras are pretty good I was slightly considering one myself before I settled on a cat

sick reef
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its so joever i cant find a party thats NOT cheesing

pale blade
rain geode
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Really I saw a few parties a little bit ago when I was on aether

sick reef
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out of 10 i see 2 normal ones

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what is happening

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for necron 😭

tall field
versed kayak
tall field
versed kayak
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was probably the same guy that made the facewear glasses float 10cm off viera noses

tall field
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Sooo ye lets eat vulnsBluNyaissa

versed kayak
rain geode
sick reef
tall field
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I m surprised MM2 skip didnt take the forefront

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Now that the whole.ilvl carrying thing

sick reef
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im givingintot he cheese

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man

jolly flume
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at least its less disgusting than that

tall field
sick reef
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welp time to go see this cheese bs

sick reef
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surely this doesnt go wrong

tall field
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Just gotta know when to tank lb ye

versed kayak
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viera has one face that has a big nose, so the glasses are probably positioned for that

tall field
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If tanks gonna take a 2nd vuln ideally burn ur 40%? On it

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But for the most part AR should only hit u max 2 times

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I havent seen beyond 2

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Since the 3rd ends up being both North side safe

jolly flume
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@worn bluff SIMP

tall field
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Only way i see all 3 times hit is imo 322/323

jolly flume
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that fantasia is whispering into my ear...

jolly flume
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I'm saving this for later

worn bluff
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i'll go back to purple hair when it's time to level BLM and make a fern glam

rain geode
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I like the lighter green for the eyes makes me think of my cats dark green eyes

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Ive been really comingg around on green recently

jolly flume
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brown hair green eyes is something I've done before but I was in my blue era for like the last year

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ok I think I'm fucking sold

rain geode
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Makes sense I style her after myself same hair/eye color

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the ears arent on me for real as yuou probably guessed

versed kayak
rain geode
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that being said I think id that point Id just get a commision of T'ew since shes a lot cuter then me anyway

versed kayak
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I was more thinking commission cat ears to actually wear irl, but that works too

brisk scarab
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Rolled 97 on train wings and LOST

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Nights actually ruined LOL

rain geode
jolly flume
rain geode
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Ive spent more for sillier stuff so I can't pretend like I wouldnt

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Its not like I dont own a maid dress

brisk scarab
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Also, why does AR cheese exist

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Its such a simple mech

rain geode
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Melee uptime

brisk scarab
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Ah

rain geode
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that being said I wouldnt go as far as to call it a good reason

valid solar
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its all fun and games until you lose a run to 2x N 1xE or 1xN 2xE

worn bluff
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@jolly flume A or B

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i can't afford both

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B only works for tanks i guess

visual geyser
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ERP with B to afford A

worn bluff
valid solar
worn bluff
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my crafting gear is one tier out of date. have to see if i can make this stuff

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oh i guess it's easy to NQ

amber fable
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Scrip it

worn bluff
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i should probably do that at some point

sick reef
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ffs winning roll was 70 😭

spice path
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I've only seen wings once in 35 ish runs? And only seen wings in any ex like 4x in 200+... I do have to go back and farm... my static might once we all have savage bis.

sick reef
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imma do my 100 slave runs and buy it

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first i need 100 totems for train n necron

undone tide
fierce matrix
#

WITHOUT DOING THIS STRAT

sick reef
#

tomahawk

fierce matrix
#

Not even

rain geode
fierce matrix
#

You just hit

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Run back

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Gapclose

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Keep full uptime

#

Ive done it many of times

sick reef
fierce matrix
#

And even if you cant, almost every melee has something thats a neutral

sick reef
#

graha needed to find a job

fierce matrix
#

All tanks are 2.5 or 2.45 so its fine for them. MNK has six sided, ninja has raiton, viper has coils, reaper has harvest moon

#

Dragoon runs 2.5 so it doesnt matter

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If you cant keep uptime thats a skill issue not a strat issue

amber fable
#

Man I have been doing consistent bd parties now

#

They on average gets me more clear than non bd

torn kindle
amber fable
#

Probably its more so that I joined bd more often

#

Man I am already getting bored of doom train and I only got 20 totems

#

Time to shelve it till end of expac

peak compass
#

need to start running it properly but not got a static

worn bluff
#

it’s fun to see the first time but not much replay value

peak compass
#

PF here i come 🫔

delicate delta
#

my ass casually burning 10+ million gil to get my crafters up to date because I took a break and I'm now paying for it:

worn bluff
#

i don't craft enough to make it worth catching up

#

i'm just going to sell tome mats and buy pots/food

delicate delta
#

Over a week and a half to make the money back and I may as well keep that up for about 2 months to get about 100m because the money is THAT good and the method is something NOBODY wants to do.

worn bluff
#

i played a bunch of market board pvp on day 1 of the last 2 tiers so i'm using that gil to be lazy now

delicate delta
#

My grind is
-Do Dailies to level my jobs to 100
-Take the time to get the gear for the current tier
-Fate Grind for the rest of the time and n e v e r s t o p.

clear plume
#

idk whats worse, that the whm was third highest damage, or that doing less than a purple whm is somehow almost a green for rdms

delicate delta
#

Patron of the Fates is not a title I wear lightly.

delicate delta
#

I plan on doing UCOB and I wont bother to change myself to a legend.

clear plume
#

the uh embarassing part is proibably

#

this is the deaths graph

rain geode
#

Im just gonnna leave this here

#

Zelenia normal btw

#

actually I wasnt gonna but posting that again Im gonna upload that I want the full breakdown

clear plume
rain geode
clear plume
rain geode
#

at the end of the day its normal mode what can ya expect

#

like honestly that isnt even that bad compared to a lot of the normal mode stuff ive seen

clear plume
#

honestly its a game people r paying monthly for, why would the expectation not be people want to play it instead of press slice for 9 minutes straight

pale blade
#

I could easily change my title to The Perfect Legend but unfortunately for some I will not

#

Only real ones use Deep Canal Raider

worn bluff
tardy vortex
#

So I know in the field Ops, each area is for a different type of material that you need. For the relics. If three of each is all you need, then when you have the 3 of 1 type should you just ignore all fates in that area, of the map

true beacon
#

Nope

#

The ph exp is good

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And silver

#

The fates are only a 5% drop chance anyways

#

Especially with the chance of acc drops now from CE’s

tardy vortex
#

So what's the better option? If you just wanna get the relics grinding the faites. In the field Ops or throughout the other zones of DT i know doing it that way might take longer, but you get to choose which one you're going for.

true beacon
#

If you need to snipe one color or two go to zones

tardy vortex
#

Okay, so it's better towards the end. When you already have most of them, and you're just missing 1 or 2 i've been grinding the critical encounters because the regular fates get finished. Before I even reach them because there's so many people, they delete the fate almost immediately.lol

true beacon
#

Did you get the riding map

tardy vortex
#

What's that

true beacon
#

It boosts your mount speed

#

Bought from the antiquarian

#

For silver

undone tide
#

got to top p6 twice after 3 weeks off of the fight

#

astro wipes us both times

#

aight

#

like stop greeding man

#

nobody gives a fuck about your 320 potency fall malefic

#

oh sorry, 270

#

even lower at level 90!

tardy vortex
#

So when I buy these are the consumable to increase my amount speed, how many can I buy? What's the maximum that it won't increase? Any further

true beacon
#

One

fierce matrix
sick reef
#

bd parties, ive never cleared. normal ones, ive cleared and skipped arcane

fierce matrix
#

You can't skip arcane 1 lmao

pale blade
#

lol

#

I found a party, p gud, didn't use "braindead", thank God

proper cave
#

Are we absolutely certain that it wasn't dubbed "braindead" out of malice?

#

I've always thought that was an inevitability once people started using that word to name strats

pale blade
#

It's either malice, stupidity, or good intentions. Either way it's not good

fierce matrix
#

thanks game

sick reef
fierce matrix
#

most parties can lol

#

i have had only scuffed runs see it

sick reef
#

havent seen arcane 2 skip a ton, just today and yesterday with my merc

worn bluff
#

luckily i've only had 3 clear/farm parties and they all used normal arcane

#

about 15 kills and only 2-3 wipes total

sick reef
#

i decided to bite the bullet and join a bd party and we wiped 3 times before i left šŸ”„

worn bluff
#

isn't bd arcane still like you have to kind of react to where the circle ends up?

#

just do the mechanic normally atp

valid solar
#

no you just stand in one spot and hope you dont get hit thrice

worn bluff
#

yeah i just mean which mits you use

#

it's not like sphene where you do the same thing all the time

valid solar
#

nah its pf so people will use their mits even if the circle is not on you

rapid whale
fierce matrix
#

so close

valid solar
worn bluff
#

bannable offense

jade nimbus
valid solar
#

the current food and pots will last for the rest of the expac correct ?

amber fable
#

Its not even arcane which wipes really

#

People die to spread stack shit more

valid solar
#

yeah majority of wipes ive seen are on intermission

amber fable
#

Or double clipping spread aoes

worn bluff
jade nimbus
#

They're going to be valid for the next ulti too if they keep their word and don't delay it

proper cave
#

Minimum two brain to join this party

worn bluff
undone tide
#

had a party earlier where i got 10 totems and 3 mil

amber fable
undone tide
#

easiest pf of my life

amber fable
#

So yes

undone tide
#

we had the reaper dc for the first car and barely got a slower kt

#

we also went out of intermission with 5 weakness

worn bluff
#

it’s pretty hard to enrage this fight

amber fable
#

I usually write 8/4

worn bluff
#

basically all your rezzers die or you probably kill it

amber fable
#

Sometimes I dont and assume people have seen the orbs

valid solar
#

nice, I got 1 mil the other day for just unsyncing normal panda p1-4

#

I guess someone just wanted it done on their alt

amber fable
#

Sometimes I forget it myself but since I am tank I usually live anyway

worn bluff
#

it would be more fun if the twister snaps happened randomly throughout the fight instead of at set times uwucarby

amber fable
#

I saw enrage first time yesterday

#

You can eat one twsiter still

#

It doesnt kill you

worn bluff
#

it’s just annoying to have MT get clipped by more than one but you can just swap til it falls off

valid solar
#

thonking what strat is lactose intolerant

worn bluff
#

no cheese

amber fable
#

Diarrhea

fierce matrix
amber fable
#

Aracane is like the least threatening mech of this fight

#

I am ngl

fierce matrix
#

yes

#

thats what you said lmao

#

its more that if you can't do the least threatening mechanic while keeping uptime why do you think I have trust in you to do harder mechs

#

and normally you will fail on other mechs because shitters are the only ones in ar cheese parties

amber fable
#

Eu is more populated in bd parties

#

Not much choices here

fierce matrix
#

make your own

amber fable
#

As long as we one pull

#

I dont care

#

Bd non bd

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Just dont choke

#

I already got the weps I wanted for jobs I will play

fierce matrix
#

im at 72 totems, fights been literally so fucking easy in normal parties

#

I literally do not wipe

#

compared to necron this is a breeze

amber fable
#

It is

#

I am just getting bored of it is all

fierce matrix
#

thats fair

#

i def feel the fatigue

#

14 more kills and im done

jade nimbus
#

Mhm, necron was also a breeze tbf

fierce matrix
#

fuck no

#

the amount of deaths in PF to MM2 and Grand Cross

#

or whatever that mech was

#

i cant remember the name

#

Parties were so inconsistent

worn bluff
#

sphene had a lot more wipes too

fierce matrix
#

excluding the C41s ive joined to help friends, ive wiped 9 times out of my 36 kills

#

and 5 of those were Braindead

#

and I have 1 BD kill

amber fable
#

Most of my kills aren't even logged

#

Lol

fierce matrix
#

ive joined a lot of C41s with friends

#

fights so piss easy gf got through it in one pull blind by us just yelling at her LOL

amber fable
#

I think I did same

#

Watched a vid and joined duty completion party

#

Cleared in 4/5 pulls

fierce matrix
#

thats not the same lmao

amber fable
#

Well not my fault

#

Other people made mistakes

dull drum
amber fable
#

I was on tank anyway

#

No mech for tanks plus tank privilege

dull drum
#

yeah my friend was tank i told him ā€œignore the intermission changes you’re tankā€

#

tank is piss easy

fierce matrix
#

what a plate

shadow pilot
valid solar
dapper zealot
valid solar
#

where are the MITS grrr

pale blade
valid solar
# pale blade oh that’s good

unfortunately that party was cooked due to a dnc repeatedly trolling their healer on stack/spread and a tank who went the wrong way on arcane, just happened to tbe the one with the aoe, and then proceeded to drop said aoe directly onto us

pale blade
#

Why is it always Dancers

#

Every fucking time I swear

fierce matrix
#

the "strat" sucks

proper dagger
#

are we talking abt bd cheese?

valid solar
#

oh I should have clarified, thats the uh, car change attack

proper dagger
#

its a very good strat

valid solar
#

on the first 2 cars

proper dagger
#

people just suck ass at performing it

valid solar
#

people just didnt mit I guess kek it should not have hit at 140k

proper dagger
#

people who dont like it r truly coping in my eyes. it will become functionally the most used strat especially when savage is out and everyone is geared

fierce matrix
#

like ive said before, you can keep full uptime doing it normally and having to plan mits around stuff in a PF setting like that is dogshit

proper dagger
#

people are just allergic to a mitigation button

fierce matrix
#

It requires actual mit planning

proper dagger
#

u dont have to plan mits you simply have to press. ur. buttons.

valid solar
#

it alsso requires luck because it can just straight up kill you if it hits you thrice

fierce matrix
#

you literally have to cause if you spend shit earlier you dont have it for the stacks

proper dagger
#

nothing else in this fight hits nearly as hard so you really dont have to break ur back over mitting

wicked delta
#

Omg its Omega Planetes

valid solar
wicked delta
#

Wait thats just Bungo

#

Nevermind no longer excited

fierce matrix
#

Doing the mechanic which is also easy as fuck while keeping uptime is not hard LOL

proper dagger
#

no one said it was hard

fierce matrix
#

And like ive said aswell

fierce matrix
#

this is the reason why we got hitboxes and fight design in EW

proper dagger
#

its just as easy to sit there and keep doing whatever u want

#

it also makes it easier on ur casters

fierce matrix
#

because people didn't want to actually work for uptime and thought it was "too much friction"

fierce matrix
#

and then they made themis

#

the hitbox the size of the arena

wicked delta
fierce matrix
#

the people who perpetuate a strat where you soak vulns, have to plan mit around a fight you dont have to do in the first place, and then have RNG bullshit where you have to either tank LB or just wipe

valid solar
#

hegemone hitbox is so funny, regular sized ancient with a hitbox thats like 3x as wide as they are tall

fierce matrix
#

are the problem LOL

wicked delta
#

Hitbox so fat it feels harder to lose uptime sob

fierce matrix
proper dagger
#

perpetuating a strat you have to "plan mit around" is such a wild thing to say

#

u plan mit around everything

#

literally all content that isnt a dungeon, u plan mit around

#

so idk what thats even implying

#

plenty of people are doing bd strat just fine its not a problem. theres two strats, one will probably supercede the other its really not a big deal

fierce matrix
#

literally you just see mechanic press one mit you are fine. The issue is when you have to stack all your mits and actually remember to not use them on previous mechs to have it up is already too much for PF

#

the people who do BD are the people who did the tank DD strat in P1S

proper dagger
#

so bd is bad bc pf is bad and cant press buttons

#

spill

fierce matrix
#

BD is not bad just cause of that

proper dagger
#

bd isnt bad

#

an easy fix

#

i also wouldnt compare the two to p1s, theyre completely different

fierce matrix
#

It requires you to actually think instead of executing a simple mechanic properly. It requires you not to rely on RNG or Tank LB2 if you get unlucky. It also is the intended way and someone who actually can do that mechanic probably actually understands the mech and can do the fight better instead of praying to RNG since thats how a lot of people get through since your mit usage can wildly vary if you only get a 1 vuln run. On top of all of that, uptime is not an issue as you can keep full uptime while doing normal

valid solar
#

what is that image

fierce matrix
#

On top of all of that, this requires healers and tanks to do more

#

so why would it be uptime when you have more to do on support

proper dagger
#

oh no the tanks hitting their buttons for once

dreamy whale
#

If it can’t be reliably executed in pf then it’s not a good strat

proper dagger
#

the world is ending

fierce matrix
#

its not like the autos are 60k btw

#

:)

proper dagger
#

it can be reliably executed in pf

#

and is, repeatedly

fierce matrix
#

I just listed like 4 things on why its bad

#

and on top of that, the mentality of people doing strats like that is why we get bad fight design like EW

dreamy whale
#

people just suck ass at perfoming it

#

Therefore cannot be reliably executed in pf

fierce matrix
#

out of 38 kills

#

ive had 9 wipes

proper dagger
#

it just sounds like a crash out. its really not based on rng in the way that youd think "well u wipe constantly" ive done bd like 20 times now and its fine every time

fierce matrix
#

and 5 were from braindead

proper dagger
#

bc pf by nature struggles with many mechanics

#

by that very logic

#

pf is like notorious for that

fierce matrix
#

there is a large difference between doing a mechanic the intended way vs having to jump through the PF ringer hoops just to do an unintended way

dreamy whale
#

evil I saw ifrit in uwu within 45 minutes of prog I don’t think pf is really that bad

fierce matrix
#

The point is, its not an intended way and that execution is inconsistent compared to the intended way where they just aren't doing it properly

proper dagger
#

maybe i just dont see it the same way u do, i rly dont wipe to bd strat so this feels like an anomaly of skill issues

dreamy whale
valid solar
fierce matrix
valid solar
#

thats where the problems begin

fierce matrix
#

people refuse to actually work for their uptime

#

on no I cant just hit a striking dummy!

true beacon
#

Was Garuda Awakened when you saw Ifrit

fierce matrix
#

happymealcatto WHATEVER SHALL ID O

proper dagger
#

then let them do bd and not work for it

#

if theyre clearing who cares

valid solar
# dreamy whale Oic

theres one specific mechanic near the end, ultimate suppression, if you get past that mechanic you are basically guaranteed to clear

dreamy whale
#

But we have fully fleshed out guides for like every fight in the game atp I don’t see why BD is even a thought

proper dagger
#

uwu is the ultimate end game content

dreamy whale
fierce matrix
# proper dagger if theyre clearing who cares

because then these fucks join my parties, fuck up normal cause they dont read or beg me to switch to it while also not being able to remember if it was stack/spread 5 seconds ago. On top of this, it gives them a false sense of security

true beacon
#

Then you didn’t prog

proper dagger
#

its comfortable to not think. i CAN do both ways and ive done both ways numerous times, but i wont say bd isnt fun for me. its very nice to just sit there and keep my gcds rolling, hence the name braindead

fierce matrix
#

I would rather people get better and learn stuff, and this strat to not be wildly popular cause then the devs see it and see how many hoops we jump through just to not do a mech

true beacon
#

At least the correct mechs

fierce matrix
#

and I will clown on anyone doing BD for these reasons

true beacon
#

looks at Ilya Light Rampant

dreamy whale
#

mewpaissa technically is prog just like 50% of the prog

proper dagger
proper dagger
fierce matrix
proper dagger
#

super duper hard even i think square should nerf it

fierce matrix
#

In the end

pale blade
fierce matrix
#

we just need them to just point DDs on this shit

#

so the idiots cant just soak vulns

proper dagger
#

mind u the only tantrum being thrown is the long rant about u hating bd

valid solar
proper dagger
#

so i feel like this is just projected af

fierce matrix
#

I didnt even say that

proper dagger
fierce matrix
dreamy whale
#

Soaking vulns should only be done during final damage push methinks

proper dagger
#

its fine if u dont like bd but the reality is aether will always be up its own ass with strats so u have to accept that theres two

fierce matrix
#

after zelenia and now this fight I REALLY dont need them to go back to EW fight design

#

And they pay attention to this

proper dagger
#

there was also 2 for intermission but static reigned supreme thank god bc fuck u for trying to push me at the north corner

true beacon
#

Yeahhhh

dreamy whale
#

Cause like yer trolling your healers

true beacon
#

There were a solid 5 or less good fights in EW

pale blade
#

Uh no BD adherents need lobobo

spice path
#

Honestly I dont care what strat a party uses. I've not experienced many wipes in either strat. Both have been successful equally for me.

proper dagger
#

yes the voice of reason strikes true

proper dagger
#

im not struggling to mit

fierce matrix
#

Just because they are successful doesn't mean they are good for the game/community btw shrug

proper dagger
#

that fight is unironically easier to mit than necron ever was

#

theres many things that arent good for the game or community

#

and they still exist

fierce matrix
#

I agree

proper dagger
#

and probably far more worth your time

fierce matrix
#

and I criticize them too

#

just cause some things are worth doesn't mean others shouldnt be looked at

proper dagger
#

with such fervor i hope your fruits prove worth the effort

fierce matrix
dreamy whale
fierce matrix
#

making people feel bad about potentially cause us to revert to a worse game like we have before is my goal

proper dagger
#

ill never feel bad about greeding for more damage

#

anything to put me in turret mode ill do it

#

ramping up my personals is my fave

fierce matrix
#

thats the mindset thatll give us bad game design

#

greeding is not taking vulns

proper dagger
#

its okay my favorite class has been relegated to "worse than the alternative" for like 4 years + now

fierce matrix
#

taking vulns/dds is bad play, greeding is good play

proper dagger
#

so im sure itll be fine

fierce matrix
#

god Pandemonium fucking sucked LOL

#

Para 1 just being resolved with an invuln

dreamy whale
#

Behold, the world’s most scuffed A4S clear

wicked delta
#

I remember seeing PFs that would have ā€œbonds 3 LB3ā€ for P10S

#

Instead of just doing the damn mechanic

fierce matrix
#

yeah lmao

#

that one too

wicked delta
proper dagger
fierce matrix
#

I cant think of any stupid strats in this current raid series

#

tho i might be forgeting

#

ig Tank Lb3 during towers in M6S

pale blade
dreamy whale
#

ASsleepPoi Discoid Sac Strat my beloved

wicked delta
#

You mean M6S?

fierce matrix
pale blade
#

I think I begrudgingly accepted Fering during my PF excursions into M8S though

wicked delta
#

The truth supernova is just to skip towers

fierce matrix
#

Fering is just resolving it normally, its not purposefully failing a mech

pale blade
#

right

fierce matrix
#

its just different prios

pale blade
#

though I remember hearing people saying it’s ass because people can’t be bothered to haul ass

fierce matrix
#

you dont even need to haul ass

pale blade
#

probably a different kind of suck then

fierce matrix
#

the mech itself just was like that

#

but yeah im trying to think

pale blade
#

But yeah Fering was actually fine

wicked delta
#

This raidtier had like

#

Maybe some stupid strats week 1

fierce matrix
#

outside of M6S towers (Which most people try to resolve normally anyway)

wicked delta
#

But were pushed out rea fast

fierce matrix
#

i can't think of anything else

wicked delta
#

*real

#

So we don’t really have them this time

pale blade
#

yarp

fierce matrix
#

maybe invulning towers in M7S

pale blade
#

uh

#

I personally think that’s alright…ish

fierce matrix
#

actually yeah, its crazy how many mechs we cheesed in Pandemonium normally because of how normal it was considered

#

but this raid tier we just...dont or can't

pale blade
#

but yeah no real stupid strats in Arcadion

wicked delta
#

ok theres just a catgirl here

fierce matrix
#

that is a catgirl yes

#

what about her

pale blade
#

all the stupid strats for Savage got left behind in Endwalker

#

and thank GOD

wicked delta
#

she looks like she might get a cold

fierce matrix
#

let a girl be naked

#

smh

wicked delta
#

Oh fuck she’s actually just

#

Not wearing anything

#

LOL

pale blade
#

nothing at all

fierce matrix
#

FRU weapon btw

wicked delta
pale blade
#

nothing at all

fierce matrix
#

thats a true raider

#

well is that a FRU weapon?

wicked delta
#

Yea

fierce matrix
#

It looks like it

#

huge

#

i have no life

wicked delta
#

Going into FRU with no gear challenge

pale blade
rapid whale
woven tundra
#

Or maybe it was the other one before it

#

Cant remember

thin fox
#

does anyone know what the NA forked tower discord is

#

nvm found it its just field op enjoyers

zealous meteor
#

i'm so glad i didn't grind fates in living memory until after 7.3

#

7.0-7.2 LM is so depressing

sly basin
#

best name ive ever seen in my life

valid solar
sleek moon
valid solar
#

Cooked I was referring to a certain fanfic about alex

wicked delta
worn bluff
#

P9S LC

vestal hollow
#

i hated this mech so much i didnt do the rest of the tier

clear plume
sly basin
#

we only need 1 more Peepoduck

valid solar
#

im in train and my healers hearing is so good they can hear when the arcane revelation will stop before it even starts moving

#

wow

clear plume
#

Remember gamers, you don’t get a special bonus for wiping to a mechanic several times week 1 instead of ripping a tank or healer lb if it’s available and the dps check enables it meow

worn bluff
worn bluff
vestal hollow
#

i rly struggled with jp for some reason

valid solar
#

whyd they name a strat after the phone company

worn bluff
#

i thought both were fine. i just wanted everyone to decide on one

sly basin
#

paissasquint the fresh 2 clear guy is perfectly fine w this fight

#

its the other ppl in this pf

valid solar
#

the mount (LM party) and the TT card dropped on the run that gave me the 100th totem

#

nice

#

ngl paying for parse on an unreal is crazy work

thin fox
#

😭

#

hwo does NA does ef on zalenia again is it dps 1/3 support 2/4

normal summit
#

That, plus braindead for ef2, so all EF's are done the same.

thin fox
worn bluff
valid solar
#

damn ive just realized

#

I have only gotten the wings as a drop once, for every other EX this expac ive had to do the fight either 100 or 50 times

#

well one more EX to go, I hope the collect em all mount is good

#

im personally hoping for something like the one granblue character with 6 wings of different color

worn bluff
#

the EW one taught me to wait

molten moon
tall field
#

Why is unreal on merc?

#

Is it that bad pf wise?

jolly flume
#

unreal is always that bad

mossy eagle
#

It's basically free

jolly flume
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it's like the most incentivized piece of "endgame" content for non raiders to do

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so you get exactly that population in its pf

mossy eagle
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Sorry let me rephrase