790 BiS is what you want
#endgame-lounge
torn mesa
somber forge
er not baby face, grand champ
torn mesa
ye
low hearth
If you want to enrage Hades p1 yea
jagged aspen
wym keep, were you planning to discard it? 🤔
thin fox
its crazy that TEA specifically gets a special nickname for people who clear it a billion times
rain geode
Eventually 8.0 dungeons might have some better gear for the 7.5 ult but if your doing it on content yeah you'll want the 790 gear the upcoming savage will drop
They tend to make gearing overall very simple
vapid path
You think m12 will be the unlock or will they keep it consistent and make m8 the unlock?
thin fox
why would m8 be the unlock lol\
rain geode
I mean it's always the tier that's current when it drops right?
zealous meteor
Eventually 8.0 dungeons might have some better gear for the 7.5 ult but if your ...
will it? the ilvl 793 gear (can't get 795) would be lv104
zealous meteor
lv93 gear (dungeon drops) is 660, so i assume the lv103 dungeon will drop 790
then lv104 crafted gear will be 793
rain geode
will it? the ilvl 793 gear (can't get 795) would be lv104
I think it depends? gearing gets weird when level sync gets invloved.
zealous meteor
yeahhhh
idk if it'll sync if the item level is within the duty's ilvl sync range, but the equip level is above the duty's level sync range
true beacon
The sync for ultimates is 5 ilvl higher than savage
robust shoal
that's why we're having this convo, yes
clear plume
Eventually 8.0 dungeons might have some better gear for the 7.5 ult but if your ...
Level sync always applies before gear sync
A ilvl 663 piece from level 94 syncs to worse than a level 660 level 90 piece
Alo criterion uses the max expack level sync to have that all tested
vapid path
why would m8 be the unlock lol\
Since they've never done a 12th floor unlock if they wanted to make it consistent would it make sense no not at all but when has square ever made sense
versed kayak
The previous 8th floor unlocks all came out during the second savage tier tho no?
jolly flume
yea
versed kayak
They've never done a 12th floor unlock because they've never done a 7.4/7.5 ulti
jolly flume
we've never had a .5 ultimate
clear plume
But what if I want to skip the raid tier and just wait for relic to prog the ultimate 
jolly flume
atma grind lowkey harder than progging the ultimate
clear plume
I got a new gaming chair I’m excited to do some parsing 
rain geode
Do ultimates come out right on the patch or is a like .X1 .X3 kind of thing?
lyric summit
usually a week or two after main patch
torn kindle
They’ve always came out on the x.x1 patch IIRC
rain geode
Noted and we don't actually know but the assumption is since fru was eden it's probably gonna be shb msq themed one?
loud nymph
that's the assumption but also they skipped SB MSQ
clear plume
yeah, same way fru was gonna be sb msq ulti before release
loud nymph
so it could be anything
rain geode
It could even be a boat
clear plume
its gonna be all 13 convocation members so we can beat up halmarut
jolly flume
its gonna be all 13 convocation members so we can beat up halmarut
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
wait if it's the ancient version of her thats ok
nvm
loud nymph
I still really hope it's like an alternate ShB timeline where the Exarch actually succeeds in absorbing all the lightbound aether
because
I want ffxiv players to have to kill g'raha
jolly flume
There's a voice inside my head...I can't control Eden!
Graaaaaahhh!
Here and now, I will fulfill our promise.
thin fox
that's the *assumption* but also they skipped SB MSQ
100% the reason Stormblood was skipped was because they wanna save Shinryu for future Endwalker MSQ ultimate and they don't want to have two ultimates where Shinryu is the final phase lol
jolly flume
To the most powerful being in this child's heart, I give form!
loud nymph
100% the reason Stormblood was skipped was because they wanna save Shinryu for f...
that is fair
dapper zealot
shinryu ult where we become friends
worn bluff
make an ult where we become the bad guy and fight all the good guys
rain geode
The issue is most of the good guys are kinda jobbers
rain geode
That might be to much like I feel like a zodiark hydaelyn would want more room to breath
I kinda want a minor alt timeline where lahabrea lived the end of HW so we get a fight against all 3 of the unsundered
worn bluff
alt timeline where you never get back into your body after In From the Cold and have to save the world as a regular dude
jolly flume
predictable better than TRASH
dull drum
woah woah i think they can cook
thin fox
[10:22]You roll Need on the pair of wings of mist. 58!
dull drum
they made an ultimate based on 3 trials and a main story mission
🥀
it worked out right UWU
tame shuttle
<:Cluegi:1363182516969803846>
Chiyo 
jolly flume
rain geode
Give us another ultima weapon ultimate but this time with the uh like gem weapon things
wintry elbow
is there something to spend my poetic tomes on to get gil? cuz i keep capping poetics and have nothing to spend them on
thin fox
nop
if u enjoy relics u can use them to get past expac relics but theres no way to make money from them really
dapper zealot
is there something to spend my poetic tomes on to get gil? cuz i keep capping po...
buy the highest ilvl poetics rings, turn then in for gc seals, buy duck bones
jagged aspen
is there something to spend my poetic tomes on to get gil? cuz i keep capping po...
you can but its pretty low ratio
only if youre sure you wont want relics later
worn bluff
april fool's patch idea: doomtrain finger snap followed by twister happens randomly sometimes, anywhere you are in the game
quick verge
predictable better than TRASH
do you like being able to chat here
random needle
they made an ultimate based on 3 trials and a main story mission
They made an Ultimate based on two trials and a dungeon and it's one of the most compelling pieces of content in the game
jolly flume
do you like being able to chat here
🇮🇱
whole estuary
I thought we already had a Stormblood ult
thin fox
dapper zealot
yeah top
dapper zealot
don't make me unpartner you
visual geyser
M10 theme the best theme this tier actually
mossy eagle
Something something blowjob brothers
thin fox
can the healers not stand on top of the fucking orb
shy obsidian
mossy eagle
Speen when she becomes a scion ❤️❤️❤️
shy obsidian
imagine if she had a gun
mossy eagle
Imagine if we had any trust party member who was a machinist
dapper zealot
Have you heard? Princess Sphene is here
low hearth
M10 theme the best theme this tier actually
M11 clears bro
rain geode
free hilda
Who?
shy obsidian
Have you heard? Princess Sphene is here
Your smile means that all is right with the world
jolly flume
is that a sarcastic who or an actual who
low hearth
Absolute Tyranny
rain geode
is that a sarcastic who or an actual who
It was serious when I posted it but I remember now
low hearth
shits a banger 😭
rain geode
It's alright
true beacon
It’s very 80’s hair metal
rain geode
Still my least favorite heavy weight theme
true beacon
Stuff like Twisted Sister
rain geode
But that's more of a testament to how stiff the competition then me saying the song is bad
true beacon
clear plume
interesting how they killed the deer and no ddos today
dapper zealot
yeah, none of them are bad
shy obsidian
interesting how they killed the deer and no ddos today
Are you blaming for the disconnects??? Shame on you >:(
true beacon
But Tyrant is 80’s metal, and Xtremes are like 2000’s surf rock
zealous meteor
chat. did we get tempered by
rain geode
Idk what genre Vamp’s is
Vtuber music
dapper zealot
Idk what genre Vamp’s is
it's sorta kpop-ish
clear plume
im just pointing out a coincidence
thin fox
brother
true beacon
Like Simple Plan
true beacon
dapper zealot
no
thin fox
why can no one do the ex today
rain geode
Do you need help?
low hearth
can i just get a fucking clear
Dude the plumbers started clearing ts now it’s unclearable
rain geode
Must be rough since I havnt really had any issues with pf so far
jolly flume
train is no joke
low hearth
It’s those fucking AR cheese mfs
rain geode
Train has hands
low hearth
and the 1mil for mount merc parties 😭
worn bluff
hilda and sadu deserved to be a bigger part of the story
rain geode
Considering Hilda could easily be cut from the story yeah.
worn bluff
we only need like one smart person in the main party for exposition but instead we got like 3
rain geode
play machinist
It's gonna be a while until I level machinist
wicked delta
hilda and sadu deserved to be a bigger part of the story
Hilda yes but we have too many casters already bruh
worn bluff
yshtola didn't have to come back 
jagged aspen
wym, shes the main character
wicked delta
Well shes my wife so too bad
rain geode
So narrowing down which job I level next is
- I want to level an arr class because seeing the class names instead of the job name
- I already have at least two of each of the melee and the healers leveled so I want to level a mage or a physical dps.
jagged aspen
can you NG+ job quests?
true beacon
Yes
rain geode
So I'm going to level either BLM or BRD next
jagged aspen
ok good because i cba to do the 1-90 😄
true beacon
It’s not that bad
rain geode
Probably BLM next since I have a glam idea for it and I don't know what I would want to do for a bard glam
tardy vortex
I'm a little confused. I'm trying to grind fates. In the different zones DT to get my relics but I'm not earning anything. I got like one.demiatma i know it takes like 20 until you get one drop, but I've been doing this for a while. And I've only got one
rain geode
It's not that it takes 20 it's that that drop is 1/20 you can get unlucky
tardy vortex
Oh, that sucks. I would do it in the field Ops, but I keep dying since I'm so low level. With my Phantom job.
boreal pumice
knowledge
jagged aspen
You get levels in OC pretty fast, just stick to lower level areas
Or dodge enemies on the way to fates
low hearth
Yea
boreal pumice
we were going into high lvl areas at like 2-3 for fates /ce
jagged aspen
Phantom job level doesnt matter iirc? only your global level, once you get 15+ or something you dont get oneshot anymore
true beacon
It’s a 5% drop from FATES in DT zones and OC
boreal pumice
ph lvl doesnt matter , its knowledge lvl that is your real level
true beacon
tardy vortex
Okay, but for knowledge level, do you still just do fates to level it up
boreal pumice
yep
rain geode
I don't know for sure it's the best way but I'd honestly run CEs mostly for gummys and use fates to wrap up
boreal pumice
just do your best to dodge all mobs
and 100% save your silver coins for mount speed
rain geode
Mount speed if the first silver buy 100%
tardy vortex
So I know the big bosses in the field. Ops are like every 5 of them. You will get a drop, but the regular face. What is the drop rate within the field ops
rain geode
Well again 1 in 5 not every 5 you can get unlucky
boreal pumice
man still 63 ppl in oc at 1am
boreal pumice
i want mah pots
boreal pumice
ink is not ink in game hmm
pale blade
put me in the fucking ultimate
"Let's do Ultimates together"
low hearth
M10 theme is a fucking banger too 😭
round burrow
M10 theme is a fucking banger too 😭
Everything burns 🔥
low hearth
LOOK IN THE MIRROR 🪞🗣️
tardy vortex
Honestly, I don't know if relics are even worth it. For me, it just seems so grindy. Grinding through savage duties to get special gear. Sounds easy. In comparison,
versed kayak
the grind is the point yeah
visual geyser
yea lol
worldly grotto
It’s all about subscriber retention
Either grind the fights, or grind menial tasks
visual geyser
M10 theme is a fucking banger too 😭
STANDING THERE STANDING THEREEEEEEE
boreal pumice
the grind is the point yeah
fuck tomestone only
visual geyser
Im so jealous for the people that will be at fanfest
because theyll 100% perform alot of the Arcadion themes and itll go so hard
tardy vortex
I know the whole point of relics is to be time consuming, but it just seems excessive again. Savage, which is supposed to be the hardest in the game or one of the hardest grinding those for drops it's less of a pain. How does that make sense
jolly flume
time does not equate to effort
boreal pumice
with all respect excessive no , might be to you but imo it isnt asking alot
jolly flume
savage has a skill check however small, doing 300 fates does not
boreal pumice
oh no farm some atma oh no do some daily roulette or bull rush it
low hearth
Honestly, I don't know if relics are even worth it. For me, it just seems so gri...
It’s content
boreal pumice
a simple ONE TIME grind then you can do tomestones
jolly flume
idk personally I think relic grinds are boring as fuck and not for me so I just don't do them
you're free to do the same
visual geyser
the things we do for glam
unfort the DT relics are really good
unlike previous expansions 
tardy vortex
I guess it's not so bad., if you have nothing else, better to do in the game.
boreal pumice
idk personally I think relic grinds are boring as fuck and not for me so I just ...
oh trust me they are boring af and i say that as someone with all eureka wpns but it just gives you something to do
remote gate
with eureka weapons the true content is the funny nonsense you see in eureka
tardy vortex
At least I can listen to audiobooks on my headphones or watch anime on my second screen
remote gate
tawdry delta
cost
visual geyser
its literally perfect for a louis guiabern cosplay 😡
i forgot how to mod color sets smh
jolly flume
you can fuck with color channels in glamourer
just hit the palette icon next to the item
visual geyser
goat thanks
thin fox
insane samurai main here
worn bluff
it’s not really worth comparing effort to get relic vs savage because relics usually only become better at the very last step, other than for ultimates sometimes
the time/situation when relics become optimal is different
random needle
I think I'm fine with relic grinds in general, but I like to feel like every step of the grind is making some progress, no matter how small, because it feels like I'm going to get there eventually
This is me complaining about the demiatma step again because I've done like 80 fates in Urqopacha and I've gotten one atma drop from there
tall field
I usually save KBI for p2
Yea i lose uptime in dead mans windpipe but id rather take that than eating vulns in p2 due to ye getting panicd
thin fox
I mean relic grind is for a specific type of player imo
tall field
I think I'm fine with relic grinds *in general*, but I like to feel like every s...
2nd step yea was rly good due to it
Bozja gave both
In some steps
I hate rng grinding
Since you have no idea how ur ROI can be quantified
random needle
I think the one time steps plus tome sinks is a good combo, I just don't like the demiatma step specifically, mainly since you can't reliably control which CEs or FATEs spawn in OC
If it was like Eureka and you could specifically prep certain fights, that might be different, but... there's only a few like that
tall field
Or if they allowed u to trade one demi for another demi bingo
thin fox
I'm like 6 clears away from 100 totems I'm probably going to stop grinding then
random needle
Yeah that too, the fact that you can get excess atma and have no use for them at all is bewildering to me
boreal pumice
I think the one time steps plus tome sinks is a good combo, I just don't like th...
i think ppl prefer the 2nd step because it is more visable progress then just saying hope i get it if not fuck rng
remote gate
my tinfoil hat theory is that square knew how ass oc was and made the second step be roulettes only so ppl wouldnt do oc and therefore not complain about it
pale blade
found the Monk gummy
I might grab ones for the other jobs I moonlight as
sadly no Brink of Death pin
otherwise I would have sent it to my worst enemy
worn bluff
i like having different options to grind but tomes is too general/vague
worn bluff
are you in shibuya
pale blade
yes
worn bluff
those shelves look familiar
pale blade
oh thank god I was about to ask if you were in the store with me
I was gonna bombard you with encyclopedic knowledge
worn bluff
that would be creepy if i was behind you
pale blade
that would be creepy if i was behind you
dull drum
oh thank god I was about to ask if you were in the store with me
💀
i got most of my goods in akihabara
undone tide
i’ve already had a house man.
proper cave
worn bluff
i got most of my goods in akihabara
i was tempted to buy everything in the SE store but then remembered that people also make cute stuff on etsy too
dull drum
yeah etsy has some good stuff too
plus its nice to know my money helps folks out versus money going towards SE and i get FUCKING DDOSED 6 TIMES A DAY FOR THE PAST 2 WEEKS
worn bluff
esp if you buy off US site. they’re selling sticker packs for like $25
etsy stickers can also be pricy but have different art styles
dapper zealot
I got these from etsy last week
rapid whale
kawaii
torn kindle
Oh I think I got my BLM one from the same person as you
Don’t like how large they are though
undone tide
holy fuck gnb is so ass on doomtrain
rapid whale
not as bad as rpr
torn kindle
Sounds horrid
pale blade
you're right, I should have gotten another so it adds up to 14
undone tide
how many lightning shots can lightning shot shot can a lightning shot lightning shot shot
sick reef
clear parties for new ex have hands 🔥
pale blade
Every time I feel sad I look at one of the statics I applied to for Heavyweight, then look at their attempts
I dodged a bullet with that one
sick reef
yall got statics? man i got pf
pale blade
Surprisingly I got into one
sick reef
Surprisingly I got into one
week1 clear incoming?
pale blade
I wish I could do early week clears
sick reef
im too lazy to go in without a guide
pale blade
I could if I put my mind to it, but physically is another matter
sick reef
pisses me off that war n pld meld differently 
sick reef
I could if I put my mind to it, but physically is another matter
its just too much to do all that
time to do a merc for a coffer for pld 🔥
amber fable
I wanna get to floor 3 week 1 atleast
Dunno if I will this tier...not as motivated overall
sick reef
saw arcane 2 skip with merc party lmao
tawdry delta
I wanna get to floor 3 week 1 atleast
depends if they take too many liberties with m10 and make it harder than m11... again
deft yarrow
"I should do more zelenia, i dont have the mount yet; how many totems did i h-- "
sick reef
fucking hell im dreading doing ex4
thin tartan
car 3 tb
true beacon
Holy
amber fable
Gg
trim frost
760 worqor 🧍♂️
sick reef
bros wanna clear before he does his first phase swap
amber fable
I mean at this point why not lock to 770
sick reef
people just be doin anything on pf
trim frost
at the devil's hour too mind you
sick reef
only the stinkiest sweatiest allowed for my ex1 wing farm grrr
worn bluff
where's the mit alignment chart
letting your sub expire before the TB goes off is mitigation
shadow pilot
your sub
dapper zealot
your dom
trim frost
is that
pale blade
uplander don’t pay jinglyshine for gobbiesub
trim frost
i didn't finish my sentence oops
is that a new mob or just the first time i'm seeing it
trim frost
does it now
deft yarrow
yeah they pop up depending on the weather
jade nimbus
It is like the flan, ye
amber fable
Worst ex
pale blade
damn must be nice being a Reaper main then
amber fable
Zalenia is objectively worst..why? Its boring af, give 1 totem and the mechs doesnt even do anything
trim frost
but metal beatrix has aura
amber fable
Even when it was fresh week 1..you could simply eat mech and still kill
Overall ..i am just not a fan of ex4
pale blade
I feel like there were better fights but yeah
true beacon
Like Barb
pale blade
oh Barb was a very good fight in a sea of mid that was Endwalker
dapper zealot
help
dapper zealot
I was wondering why I kept clipping everything
pale blade
yes
sick reef
i rember rb6 could be skipped on patch lol
if its till rb4 now itll be peak
7min runs
housing crisis in ff14 or what
pale blade
housing crisis in ff14 or what
damn
sick reef
landlords everywhere
sick reef
mmmm roasted landlord basted with white paint
pale blade
<@&100464652139368448> mods cut off his pp
round hazel
A\
sick reef
😭 bro clicked on a mr beast giveaway lol
storm frost
round hazel
lmfao the kill train
dapper zealot
nooo but my free mrbeast money
kindred bison
sick reef
click link and scan qr code, 1 morbillion gil
tired egret
nooo but my free mrbeast money
zealous meteor
@dapper zealot https://youtu.be/_Gs8rjCSZ5I?t=195
odd beacon
<@281091553269645312> https://youtu.be/_Gs8rjCSZ5I?t=195
huh
it only occured to me
this was him manipulating electrope
dapper zealot
Yeah that's what he means when he says he understands the nature of his existence. He knows he's a puppet
dapper zealot
I had to think who the fuck sareel ja was for a second
zealous meteor
this stupid angel kid already figured him out
if he tries summoning the actual gods
goodbye lizard
wicked delta
sareel ja is SO FUCKED if he tries creating altana or promathia
Who
wicked delta
No like who the fuck is Sareel Ja
loud nymph
zoraal ja's buddy
wicked delta
valid solar
I still find it funny the conflicts in FFXI happen because ||the god of light pissed off and stopped doing their job so the god of darkness had to overcompensate ||
wicked delta
He had a buddy…..???
zealous meteor
he's the one who got kicked into the rift by zoraal ja when he opens the gate
wicked delta
OH
loud nymph
yeah who he shoved off into the piss
wicked delta
Right
dapper zealot
That coward guy he shoved off
valid solar
He had a buddy…..???
the sycophant that was always following him around that zoraal ja later tosses into the void
dapper zealot
The bootlicker
valid solar
And now we must cook
dapper zealot
He's pretty forgettable
undone tide
chat how did cooly get muted
dapper zealot
Threw a fit about being told to not post 7.4 spoilers outside of the thread for the second time
warped gate
threw a fit
lyric summit
lost his cooly
pale blade
Threw a fit about being told to not post 7.4 spoilers outside of the thread for ...
And I was “baiting” with that one
dapper zealot
And I was “baiting” with that one
You're literally 1984
zealous meteor
https://tenor.com/view/ffxi-ffxiv-zoraal-ja-ff11-ff14-gif-12149553351824244420
not the worst possible fate
at least he didn't send him to ff14 1.0
thin fox
i'm actually a fucking brick i just tried to right click on a white mage's lilybell thinking it was the exit of the instance
boreal pumice
to much wow classic click the lightwell
thin fox
I don't mean to exaggerate but this game literally has the worst menus in any MMO
mossy eagle
I don't mean to exaggerate but this game literally has the worst menus in any MM...
Counterpoint: FFXI
thin fox
it is actually completely no wonder people just mod outfits in this game because the glamor dresser is such unbelievable dogshit
visual geyser
I don't mean to exaggerate but this game literally has the worst menus in any MM...
Counterpoint PSO2
And monster hunter anything
thin fox
this is worse than monster hunter sorry
visual geyser
Hell nah
visual geyser
Inviting friends to party not requiring a code makes this game clear monster hunter easily unfort
zealous meteor
I don't mean to exaggerate but this game literally has the worst menus in any MM...
i don't wanna be the girl to go "but ffxi" but ffxi
worst menus of any modern mmo? yeah sure
jolly flume
Inviting friends to party not requiring a code makes this game clear monster hun...
that's compensated by the ffxiv friends list taking longer to load than it would to copy and paste a code
😭
I literally made a cwls to serve as a second friends list because for whatever reason it just loads 5x faster
visual geyser
Game asking me if I’m sure to buy af gear because I can’t wear it
Despite having every job at 100 💔
thin fox
it drives me insane that you cant multiselect in inventories
jolly flume
it drives me insane that you cant multiselect in inventories
bro
when I demolished my old house to server transfer
I had to MANUALLY DELETE
400 items
ONE BY KNE
LIKE
?????
thin fox
Im gonna lock Yoshi P in a fucking jigsaw trap where he has to move one retainer inventory to another retainer
dapper zealot
Im gonna lock Yoshi P in a fucking jigsaw trap where he has to move one retainer...
With a room filled with [GAS]
thin fox
i got the viper weapon
i think its time for a legendary viper main to be born
literally how hard can viper be it has like 3 buttons
rain geode
That depends on your ping
low hearth
Yo
thin fox
I have to do this?
if you want to move servers one of the reqs is that you have no housing (incl apartments) and to relinquish housing you have to move all the furniture out
thin tartan
fuck
sly basin
why am i doing so bad !!!
whcih one is u
sick reef
why am i doing so bad !!!
my number was ass too n idk 😭 is it cuz i have pld melds and played war? surely not
thin fox
ok this will do
I recognise I am duplicating buttons here but its more comfortable for my hands if I do it that way
plus its not like viper doesnt have the real estate
spice path
I do that too. Tho i play with 3x4 bars cause mmo mouse style. For me its just simplicity. Its easier to put buttons that are for both st and Mt on both my st and Mt bars, so that mid rotation in Mt i dont have to stop pressing shift and risk a fuck up if me repressing shift delays compared to my number button.
sick reef
anyone know what tank uptime looks like for new ex? im sitting at 88% and cant tell if its bad or not
zealous meteor
I recognise I am duplicating buttons here but its more comfortable for my hands ...
yeah i did that too
more comfortable this way
sick reef
i also lose a part of my 1m burst when hitting aether cuz of the damn train
clear plume
anyone know what tank uptime looks like for new ex? im sitting at 88% and cant t...
My tanks are high ranks with 93-94% using uptime strats so 90%ish is probably the normal, 88% not being bad for a playing safe level at all.
sick reef
My tanks are high ranks with 93-94% using uptime strats so 90%ish is probably th...
ye i havent used uptime at all
im sitting aorund 88.5%
what do u do during aether when ur 1m comes up?
cuz if i dont use it, it gets off sync. if i use it, i cant finish the whole thing
torn mesa
uptime should always be high even if you're safe
you can at the very worst be tossing ranged GCDs
clear plume
Just pop mit and eat the aoe as long as if it targets you it still hits the other party members (ie being on platform for back safe pattern) the next two towers are invulns so you should have extra to spend, a camouflage and HoC type deal is more than enough to be safe.
sick reef
i see, i tend to run a bit early too during derail
alpine plover
How many pulls did cats have in m4s again
clear plume
Unless by aether u mean the intermission
sick reef
Unless by aether u mean the intermission
ye intermission
clear plume
Then it’s just use what you can that’s on a cooldownand save carts/resources that take a gcd to use for 2m after as much as you can
tall field
2/6 requires tank lb2 ngl to live
clear plume
Yeah so focus on using your IR combo and save your extra gauge fell cleaves for 2m after phase ends basically
sick reef
ahh gotcha
rain geode
Are we talking about uptime in trian because even the like 85+ parses I've seen have like 90-93% uptime so I feel like somethings going on
clear plume
It’s easy enough to get your 7 gcds for the IR in time for the intermission unless it dies very early
sick reef
ait ill farm some after i wake and lets hope i improved
sick reef
Ur burst should come hop by 2nd cleave no?
2-3rd yea
loud nymph
cheese strat has taken over pf 🙁
sick reef
cheese strat has taken over pf 🙁
yeps every pf ive seen is doing cheese
loud nymph
very sad
sick reef
its sodumb
clear plume
The proportion of “has more gear to farm an ex” and “knows how to press mitigation in an ex” is conversely proportional to each other
As one goes up the other goes down
tall field
Next week ilvl will go up again
sick reef
i dont even know the cheese thing properly xd, what do u do if u get hit 3 times
just die
tall field
If people buy chest
rain geode
It's surprising to me people will choose to make a fight harder on themselves for like 2 gcds of uptime
rain geode
i dont even know the cheese thing properly xd, what do u do if u get hit 3 times
Tank lb
tall field
Tank lb2
sick reef
these people are not real
tall field
If non tanks gonna take a 2ns vuln stack
loud nymph
yeah you giga mit the first 2 then if it takes 3rd you have to tank lb
clear plume
The fights dps check doesn’t exist so it’s not like it matters to rip a lb2 there
thin fox
viper is fun which reaper mains can't understand
thin fox
have fun with your 2.5 1-2-3 job
sick reef
Tanks on 2nd vuln stack burn 40%
must be fun as war 🔥
tall field
sick reef
im already sweatin when i get 4 tbs in intermission
sick reef
only upside to war is no kbs
tall field
Na warrior stonks r good tbh
sick reef
ignore half that shit
tall field
Holm 2nd tb cos why not
sick reef
wars been doin good so far for me, just gotta plan mits
samurai moment with the knockback
tall field
And ofc equilibrium moments
ember quartz
cheese strat has taken over pf 🙁
i open discord and this is the first thing i see
thin fox
its actually so beast that you can go out and in through the diagonal
ember quartz
my day is ruined
tall field
But ye most wars can forgo mitigating the 2nd tb and shrimply holmgang it instead and save it for intermission if necessary
loud nymph
I found a normal AR party amazingly
ember quartz
but tbh we need to be the change we want to see
tall field
i open discord and this is the first thing i see
Doomtrain is watching the pfs
All braindead ARs
boreal pumice
dw next week you get to complain about the next cheese strat
thin fox
I mean that's not cheese
amber fable
Nobody does that
thin fox
that's an uptime strat
ember quartz
All braindead ARs
sad
tall field
True ye
thin fox
the samurai god is back
tall field
Ilvl carry means cheese becomes easier to manage the later the ex gets
thin fox
reaper is the worst designed melee in the game
tall field
And given pf quality also dips later the road
zealous meteor
the samurai god is back
why is he so shiny
tall field
Cheese may become standard
amber fable
Latex skin
thin fox
why is he so shiny
think its just how fortnite models are
torn mesa
I don't think either RPR or VPR is particularly well designed
thin fox
these models r ripped from the fortnite simpsons thing
torn mesa
nor either 1 better than the other on that front
rain geode
I need to finish the rest of my train runs before this shit starts to take over
jolly flume
vpr is just the melee for non melee players
torn mesa
it's okay SAM is the caster for non caster players
quick verge
you mean the caster for caster players
remote gate
is vpr actually a pranged with more visual effects
torn mesa
yes and no
quick verge
yes
torn mesa
the thing with VPR is, it never has to greed
amber fable
Prnage that can do some damage atleast
torn mesa
but obviously it can't just take a ranged spot still
remote gate
feint
torn mesa
With 0 personal defensives
bad damage
tall field
Thats role action
sick reef
Tomorrow I will clear train with pld and see what my funny number color is
torn mesa
is the drawback
remote gate
weren't vprs meta during early m6s prog tho
tall field
Cos cleavemax gods
amber fable
Its aoe got shat on
torn mesa
weren't vprs meta during early m6s prog tho
you picked the 1 fight this expansion where VPR cleave got value, and that also got nerfed too.
amber fable
So no vpr lost that edge
tall field
Now their AoE got axed hard
remote gate
you picked the 1 fight this expansion where VPR cleave got value, and that also ...
yeah because m6s was an insane fight
amber fable
2x Mch can clear it
remote gate
no one expected a savage fight to have an adds phase that actually mattered
torn mesa
I thought vipers were the premier dance partnered?
not at all
remote gate
samurai is still king right
torn mesa
it's SAM > PCT > NIN > MNK > VPR/RPR
remote gate
rpr still at the bottom lmfao
torn mesa
DRG is probably the worst melee DP
lower personal damage
bad espirit generation
that's also true for RPR BTW
yes
it's not really close either
jolly flume
drg just suffers from litany being an actually good raid buff numerically
torn mesa
yeah BL is better than any 5% buff
jolly flume
unfortunately crits are fake so they will never convince me
loud nymph
find normal AR group
SMN trolls throughout p1-2
still clear
immediately disband after 1 clear
fucking
jolly flume
you get like 2400-2500 from a 5% and like 3000 from chain/litany
loud nymph
torn mesa
this is EX7 99th percentile cDPS
this fight slightly favors cooldown based jobs
so NIN/PCT are a little inflated
but it's also EX, which has worse quality players
so selfish jobs get an artificial bump
if you care about meta differences
zealous meteor
but it's also EX, which has worse quality players
mb
rain geode
find normal AR group
SMN trolls throughout p1-2
still clear
immediately disband ...
If your still looking for groups in like 5 hours I'm off work
I like rpr you get a scythe
boreal pumice
random thought would a caster/range lb3 be more worth on m10 since its 2 targets or still melee likely the choice
loud nymph
probably
amber fable
Caster
jolly flume
melee lb does about 80% more damage than the ranged lbs
torn mesa
yes assuming there's no underlying caveat to said LB
jolly flume
you would use a ranged lb in 2 target
torn mesa
like ranged LB takes a bit longer, but it's still worth it
jolly flume
yeah the lost gcd of time doesn't even approach the amount of damage the lb does
amber fable
Make lb be affected by buffs even
jolly flume
they should attribute LB damage to the player who casted it so people fight over pressing the button instead of not pressing the button
torn mesa
they should attribute LB damage to the player who casted it so people fight over...
"fruit. I'm melee LBing P5, mit Pandora's box"
torn mesa
been done already
jolly flume
should be more than possible, you just need to do polarizing basically raw
which is also not that hard
just toss tank personals on squishies without defensives
jolly flume
should be more than possible, you just need to do polarizing basically raw
this had LB1 but we also lived with like literally half our hp bar so
wicked delta
?
thin fox
concerning
jolly flume
concerning
🐶
thin fox
I LOVE DYING SOOLELY BECAUSE I DIDNT GET A HEAL
boreal pumice
WHERES THE EELS
thin fox
literally
rain geode
concerning
What are they supposed to be kissing you off screen?
clear plume
This is why you don’t allow whm or travellers into your party
loud nymph
bruh
thin fox
ok here's the meta
w arcane cheese
people dont fuck up arcane cheese
but the people that form and join those parties
are fucking inting
dude
i just want
3 more clears
no
2
rain geode
I need like 20ish more clear for totems
rain geode
Has it really gotten that bad 4 days ago it's was like half and half
I know pf is like addicted to bad strats and all
rain geode
i've only cleared once
Did you at least get your coffer for savage
zealous meteor
Did you at least get your coffer for savage
no
thin fox
only at 53, 66, 10, and 38 for vali, zoraal, zalenia, and arkveld
havent even cleared necron
zealous meteor
honestly i'm also just kinda scared to go back in because like.... i've cleared. but i'm not sure if i'm consistent
zealous meteor
i don't wanna be the one who griefs a duty complete party 
rain geode
honestly i'm also just kinda scared to go back in because like.... i've cleared....
If you've cleared once your not consistent so you do the fight more and become consistent.
I'm probably gonna do like 6-10 clears tonight and like 6-10 clears on Monday then however many after that I need to hit 100 totems
Might actually try some WHM clears
rain geode
i don't wanna be the one who griefs a duty complete party <:neofox_up_paws:11683...
Trust me you will not be the only one
thin fox
CAN I GET A FUCKING HEAL
spice path
There's at least 2 griefers in every farm party.
vapid path
Melee falling off the side of the train during farm parties
spice path
This fight so easy tho you can clear with 6+ deaths.
Melee getting yeeted on derail because greed.
thin fox
Im going to completely crash out
vapid path
Melee getting yeeted on derail because greed.
A classic
spice path
I was the only one doing 30k+ in most of my parties. And no greed. If youre going to greed, at least be good.
spice path
Weekend. All the casuals are out.
glass pine
"today"
low hearth
Nice
rapid whale
how many of those were from 2-6 parties
jolly flume
can we do 6-7 arcane instead
vapid path
undone tide
i can’t lie i was doing 2:6 and we got like an 8:40 kt
might be the strat
it wasnt fun though
rapid whale
i got an 830 in 740 gear no 2:6
vapid path
It's 100% going to be the future strat like the cheese in sphene
Wait yeah why were you in 740
undone tide
its not particularly beneficial
rapid whale
it was my alt
undone tide
you have a chance at gaining a few gcds
rapid whale
the great rui tempest carried me
vapid path
Only thing good is future farming with gear it'll just get rid of the fail state on that car because we all know pf
I prefer normal all day though
It's not difficult
rapid whale
put the mechanic in the bag
jolly flume
man I wanna play cyberpunk but my pc cannot handle that and xiv at the same time
jolly flume
rain geode
Only thing good is future farming with gear it'll just get rid of the fail state...
I mean honestly I've had more groups fail 2:6 then just doing it normal xd
low hearth
fierce matrix
I mean honestly I've had more groups fail 2:6 then just doing it normal xd
exactly
players are also better in normal parties in my experience
I can get like 4-5 kills in a row with minimal deaths in normal runs, but 2:6 has people who can't remember spread/pairs, let alone do AR properly
rapid whale
its the insertjob effect
they go with the easier strat which denotes lack of confidence
rain geode
(Percieved) easier strat I don't actually thing 2:6 is easier
trim frost
the wipe mage effect
random needle
2:6 is probably gonna be easier when you have healers with a pulse and better gear
Both of which are glhf in PF
jolly flume
theres the inverse item level law in pf
fierce matrix
doing mechanics is hard
rapid whale
i call it noble's law
mossy eagle
doing mechanics is hard
Feel like shit just want to hit a striking dummy for 10 minutes 😓
fierce matrix
this is why we got hitboxes the size of the arena in EW
also you play fucking PLD
i dont wanna hear it
thats during a 1 min
rapid whale
jokes on you they drifted so hard they had downtime
mossy eagle
Hi SE I would like a boss with no
Mechanics
Positionals
Cast bars
Raidwides
And a good KT
fierce matrix
Players: "The game is so boring why can't they make better fights and classes"
Also Players: Refuse to interact with the actual mechs and just abuse mechanics just to get through things improperly
trim frost
And a good KT
generating content: stone sky sea
rapid whale
lets b real tho this would have easily been resolved by making the tank/healer defam give magic vuln
random needle
Or make getting hit by the circle give a stun or ddown
mossy eagle
Just put ddown in extreme 5head
fierce matrix
I think its fair to say that it is an EX trial so like instadeath mechs can be a bit rough to do
but yeah im more in the camp of just DD
random needle
Yeah, I'm not advocating instant death, just something to make the parsebrains think twice
rapid whale
werent they in valley girl
mossy eagle
Eh I think the extremely lenient DPS checks are a boon to extremes
Ddown would probably hinder that
rapid whale
i coulda swore valley girl had some instant death stuff or maybe it was just dmg
random needle
Yeah
fierce matrix
thats enough to keep it leinent and possible but also disincentivize cheesing
rapid whale
20s paralysis
fierce matrix
Eh, paralysis I dont like
Cause then it can just chain into constant mechs
it can basically be instant death
RNG procs on that shit
mossy eagle
I don't think it would stop you from solving the mechanic
Just from getting GCDs off
Maybe if you have a bad combo
fierce matrix
it freezes you in place
mossy eagle
Modify it a bit and call it arcane paralysis
fierce matrix
you cant move
rapid whale
it can basically be instant death
fierce matrix
Its more if you are late
like people just accidently getting clipped I dont think should be smited to hell
and making a whole new debuff just for that is too much work
mossy eagle
I haven't done the ex in a bit, but I don't think any of the movements except for maybe the far run for melees would be strict enough to be punished by a stun
fierce matrix
just change it to a 20% DD and call it a day
fierce matrix
I haven't done the ex in a bit, but I don't think any of the movements except fo...
You can get stunned 2 times in like 3s
which would be enough
mossy eagle
Really?
mossy eagle
Idk I felt like the mechanic gives you about two hours to move for most of the permutations
mossy eagle
ive been hit with paralysis enough times in UCOB to know
Krill issue just don't get hit
mossy eagle
Play with better players
rapid whale
look, i give you a paralysis you give me 1 gcd of uptime
fierce matrix
20% is enough to make people not do stupid ass strats for parses
but also keep it balanced
mossy eagle
Slightly unrelated, but just once I want a cheese strat which involves the melee dps having to take a damage down
fierce matrix
but thats the opposite of what a cheese strat is supposed to be smh
thin fox
Slightly unrelated, but just once I want a cheese strat which involves the melee...
this was literally p1s but for the off tank
mossy eagle
I still haven't forgotten P1S
thin fox
anyway Im still not fully free of the ex technically
still need two weapons for my alt
mossy eagle
Oh secret strat
thin fox
but once I have those I can just stop doing train
mossy eagle
Simply uninstall
thin fox
my friend - who is doing the upcoming tier as her first ever raid tier - wants me to play with her
which is fine
but I don't want my prog to be shackled to her
so I'm playing with her on my alt
thin fox
also playing an alt lets me do two roles in the tier
Im playing tank on main and caster on alt
I wanna do melee too but I'll wait until later to do that
not going to embarass myself by doing samurai in the first few weeks
worn bluff
i’m sure casters feel different but as a tank i feel like arcane revelation is too easy to even think of a braindead version
mossy eagle
WP statics man <:happymealcatto:1124461084758257804>
Wait are you racing this tier?
Also opinions on new GNB?
worn bluff
if you’re doing braindead arcane for parse reasons why are you even parsing in EX
thin fox
as someone who has played all the casters in the ex, bd arcane is for melees who bitch about losing a single gcd of uptime during the north unsafe combos
worn bluff
idk i throw a million ranged attacks because i just want my totem
fierce matrix
Also opinions on new GNB?
great for shitters annoying for high end
thin fox
I just do a single ranged attack on samurai
fierce matrix
also dogshit in old ultis
thin fox
though its worth noting
fierce matrix
not gameplay wise but damage wise
mossy eagle
OMG it's just for me
rapid whale
o furen you're wp this tier?
rapid whale
glgl what rank you aiming for? top 50?
thin fox
very monka timer
mossy eagle
He's going to get 1st watchu talking about
rapid whale
mb
worn bluff
OMG it's just for me
me too
fierce matrix
glgl what rank you aiming for? top 50?
eh its a 3 new people in this group so top 100 is fine but we wanna go as fast as possible. We set our expectations low
average 18 hour days
fierce matrix
we got 2 ninth mans tho
mossy eagle
I think that makes one technically a 10th man
fierce matrix
the only reason I got in was because of them switching to that cause of the holidays fucking up their schedules
worn bluff
as someone who has played all the casters in the ex, bd arcane is for melees who...
endwalker hit boxes created this mentality
giant training dummy
thin fox
its literally not even bad
rapid whale
average 18 hour days
18 hr days is low?
thin fox
the expectations are low not the hours
fierce matrix
yeah
vestal hollow
i feel rusty and stupid bc of ex6 lmao
thin fox
18 hours is the normal world race time
fierce matrix
like we aren't stressing getting top 50
if we get it then 
but goal is top 100 and we will push for that at a minimum. But if we are getting close we plan on pushing hard
rain geode
I was gonna say 18 seems like the maximum number or hours you can healthily go.
I'm planning on doing 10-12 a day myself
mossy eagle
MMO players and their absolutely delusional takes on what is normal and healthy
vestal hollow
listen i got an espresso machine for christmas i dont have excuses to not do 12-15 hours
zealous meteor
18 hours gives you 6 hours to sleep
jolly flume
MMO players be like yeah Im pretty new to the game I only have 3000 hours
hey I mean
rapid whale
o you're coming back for the tier sitri?
zealous meteor
if you're the kind of person who can fall asleep within a few minutes of getting into bed
vestal hollow
o you're coming back for the tier sitri?
yah im derusting on ex
thin fox
Im new 
vestal hollow
and i feel so decrepit
thin fox
Im learning
rapid whale
mfs with 5k hours still suck ass
zealous meteor
18 hour days is 
rapid whale
yah im derusting on ex
welcome home stinky
thin fox
be nice to the sprout
jolly flume
idk when I stopped feeling new