endgame-lounge

[amber fable]

1 min

11 sec duration

[fierce matrix]

They do not

[alpine plover]

lol

[fierce matrix]

Ive shown numbers how they do not

[alpine plover]

ok lets not get too hasty now

[amber fable]

Run it 100 times

[fierce matrix]

there is a reason its a 1.5% DPS loss LOL

[craggy marsh]

If they make living shadow a 1 minute then drk stocks are going up

It'll be smn lvl 70 after the rework all over again

[amber fable]

1.5% isnt significant though

Its lower yes

[alpine plover]

wait

hold on

[fierce matrix]

thats 1.5% on the max

[alpine plover]

gnb in uwu now is probably busted

or is bloodfest not 70

[fierce matrix]

Thats not including your variance being bigger now due to a nerfed filler

[alpine plover]

!action bloodfest

[storm frost]

**Bloodfest** : lvl 76 Gunbreaker (60.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Draws aetheric energy from target, adding 3 Cartridges to your Powder Gauge, and increasing maximum Cartridges to 6.
Duration: 30s
Additional Effect: Grants Ready to Reign
Duration: 30s

Powered by XIVAPI

[alpine plover]

nvm

[tall field]

Uwu broken tank is drk and...

Warrior

[amber fable]

Isnt filler more burst strikes now

[tall field]

If you want the best level 70 tanks

[amber fable]

War has more potencies at lower level

[rapid whale]

i thought drk was not great low levels

[alpine plover]

warrior gnb is the best in 70

[rapid whale]

rly not pld?

[fierce matrix]

after your bloodfest yes, but thats if it rolls during that. If you get it hitting outside of anything in your NM window you are cucked

[tall field]

Pld till 90 is... fine.

[fierce matrix]

I am doing as much damage in my filler right now then I was -10 ilvls ago, if not lower

[alpine plover]

pld and drk are closer now but still not as good

[fierce matrix]

and my peaks are doing the same

[alpine plover]

in tea i have no idea

@ tea enjoyers

best tnak

[tall field]

Ig best mt is warrior?

[alpine plover]

whichever has gain on two i suppose

gnb mayhaps

[amber fable]

Depends on fight

War being default mt is addled take

[proper cave]

Back in my day WAR was MT and DRK was MT and PLD was a waste of a slot and there wasn't a fourth tank yet

[amber fable]

Nothing at present warrants a specific tank as mt

Not counting ult specific comps

[alpine plover]

in tea if you use the "mt invulns the double buster at the start" strat, you just dont want pld mt

[amber fable]

Yaah cuz invuln usages

[tall field]

I mean yea sure it has the best ranged enmity button of the 4

[fierce matrix]

You dont want GNB aswell

cause the shit is ass to do

[alpine plover]

and i think pld in top also dies of cringe if you invuln end of p1

[tall field]

And equilibrium+ damnation padding maybe why people like war mt

[fierce matrix]

WAR is what you do as MT always

Holmgang, BW, Equilibrium, damnation

[alpine plover]

and idk how NA does it but PLD in EU as OT has to kitchensink apoc in fru which is also beyond cringe

otherwise they can't invuln p5

[tall field]

Cos otherwise equilibrium is not as useful outside. Ur tb as war OT

[fierce matrix]

PLD is good for second cause you might want to use PLD invuln first so it comes up in the fight for a second usage, plus sheltron is a super nice mit

that matters the fight tho

like ik DSR you wanna have PLD invuln the first buster for instance

basically you played the usage game with your timing

[tall field]

Ex6 how much KBs warrior blocks?

First one yes war wont care

[craggy marsh]

So what is the CD on the new tank invuln gonna be

[fierce matrix]

either 3 minutes or 8 minutes

[craggy marsh]

If it's 3 minutes I will shit a brick

[fierce matrix]

2:30s, but they have less mit

[craggy marsh]

SE make every invuln the same CD it'll be balanced trust me

[tall field]

Na 8 is what i feel

[fierce matrix]

4:30

[tall field]

War invuln is the only usp of warrior

[distant knoll]

war found fipping burgers

[craggy marsh]

I think about that a lot how WAR is only wanted bc of Holm being a low CD

You dont take war for anything else

[fierce matrix]

i love the dichotomy of players

Hallowed Ground sucks because its a 7 min

[tall field]

Blame bolide tbh

[fierce matrix]

but dont change the times to be something similar to others cause its homogenous

[tall field]

Its just better HG

[fierce matrix]

[fierce matrix]

just play a better class ez

better invuln better class

[craggy marsh]

Honestly

[alpine plover]

in ults

[craggy marsh]

Guardian might aswell be a second invuln for PLD

It's so good

[tall field]

Yea that 40% is cracked

[amber fable]

Pld only badside is its invuln atm

[alpine plover]

all of them are 40%

[amber fable]

If it got let say 5 min cd

It would become best

[fierce matrix]

Its gauge is also an issue

[alpine plover]

idk why warrior is a noticeable dps increase in fru over pld in early phases ngl

[craggy marsh]

Plus a shield that gets buffed by healing buffs

It's crazy

[amber fable]

Guage being mit exclusive is fine

[alpine plover]

no, it's fine because you can double mit

[amber fable]

Every guage being simon says ogcd is cringe

[alpine plover]

them and drk can do it

[craggy marsh]

Holy Sheltron heals for a good amount with the new rampart stuff

[amber fable]

1k heal potency

Its good shit

[craggy marsh]

Honestly PLD got massive stonks from the DT mit changes

[tall field]

It and drk too

[amber fable]

Drk could have got better still

[tall field]

Drk imo got the most benefits

[amber fable]

It lost 1200 mp for no reason

[tall field]

Phys mit in .1 and vigil giving heal

[amber fable]

Exxog is fine

But i dont feel its monumental change

The dark mind and missionary was bigger

[tall field]

Mind is 60s keep in mind

[alpine plover]

in my mind war is always the one with the most healing, pld with the most mit, drk with the biggest burst and gnb with the highest throughput

[craggy marsh]

Ya that's how I saw the tanks for awhile

Im still praying the new tank is like pld

[tall field]

Warrior is... holmgang ftw mostly

[craggy marsh]

I want another mit tank

[amber fable]

War the healer tank

[craggy marsh]

Me and Shiggy were doing the ex earlier and the difference between our mits was night and day

[amber fable]

War when it can live in first place

[tall field]

War mits in non ultimate can manage

But yea

[craggy marsh]

He would pop a mit and barely live while i would rampart and Shelton while taking zero damage

[alpine plover]

subjective but i kind of see this as their "identity". and it kind of didn't change.

-# yes i know there are a lot of asterisks to be placed but as a general rule in my head it kind of still works

[tall field]

Just that its mit does dps is why war mt is a thing

Or we called it padding

[amber fable]

The damnation dps is rounding error

In dps done

Its parse sure

[craggy marsh]

Job identity for me is determined by 2 things. Iconic skills and overall feel of the job

[amber fable]

But the value it will add is...questionable

[craggy marsh]

Like kaiten wasn't sams identity

Sam identity is the sticker skills

[tall field]

Same.

[craggy marsh]

For pld id say it's magic combo is its identity now

[amber fable]

Sam identity is being nihon sword user

[alpine plover]

fun fact , sams in baldesion arsenal pull aggro with midare if they minmax

[amber fable]

Pld except I see no holy magicks

[tall field]

Imagine SE making holmgang 3mins cd

When new tank drops

So it takes the 4min spot

[craggy marsh]

Actually a better way to look at identity is what's the first thing that comes to mind when you think of the job

[amber fable]

Identity isnt one thing

[alpine plover]

war is tbh fell cleave

[amber fable]

Its combination of things

[alpine plover]

pld is the wings for me

[craggy marsh]

pld for me is the magic

War is fell cleave and inner release

[alpine plover]

yes

[amber fable]

Shield sword plus light magic

[craggy marsh]

Drk is living shadow

[alpine plover]

drk i would say either living shadow or tbn

[craggy marsh]

Gnb is continuation

[tall field]

War identity is i dont care about dmg i can heal. And ofc I can soak lethal shyt multiple times.

Like ex6 warrior can invuln 2 towers themselves

[amber fable]

I hate primal rend

[fierce matrix]

thats not why imo

[alpine plover]

yea continuation sounds good

[fierce matrix]

it being tied to auto attacks is the problem imo

should be tied to GCDs, especially as a ranged tank

[amber fable]

That I agree with

[craggy marsh]

Wasn't it tied to blocking before? Or was it always auto attacks

[tall field]

Also cover costing oath guage is

[craggy marsh]

Remember when Sheltron worked for one instance of damage before it went away

[amber fable]

One shit block

And my jobs done

[craggy marsh]

It also gave mp back

Acting like pld was running out of mp

[fierce matrix]

its why I liked camo better

i have a 60% chance to take 15% less damage from autos

[amber fable]

Camo is best 90s cd

[tall field]

And they learn ir

It

[amber fable]

Irs also 15 sec

[tall field]

Soo early

Like wtf

[amber fable]

Bulwark is 10

Dark mind is also 10 iirc

[fierce matrix]

yep

[tall field]

GNB is the best ARR tank ngl

Only tank that can triage

In that level

[fierce matrix]

also no

[tall field]

Someone needs help? Toss aurora job done

[craggy marsh]

What i wanna know is

[fierce matrix]

its 20s

[craggy marsh]

Why does war get holm at 44

[fierce matrix]

!action Camouflage

[storm frost]

**Camouflage** : lvl 6 Gunbreaker (90.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Increases parry rate by 50% while reducing damage taken by 10%.
Duration: 20s

Powered by XIVAPI

[tall field]

40

[craggy marsh]

But other tanks need to wait till 50

[tall field]

Level 6 camo

[craggy marsh]

It doesn't matter but man does it suck to get stone vigil as something other than war

[tall field]

!action holmgang

[storm frost]

**Holmgang** : lvl 42 Marauder (240.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Brace yourself for an enemy onslaught, preventing most attacks from reducing your HP to less than 1.
Duration: 10s
When a target is selected, halts their movement with chains.

Powered by XIVAPI

[tall field]

Oh 42 .. close but dem

Ye 8 levels earlier

[alpine plover]

Preventing most attacks from reducing your hp to less than one. Does not work on cringe

[fierce matrix]

remember when HoL and DM wasn't available till mid 70s

so in UWU/UCOB they were fucking useless LOL

[craggy marsh]

Remember when drk had to wait till 72 to get a second aoe

And pld needed to be 74 to gap close

[tall field]

Tbh most tank aoe rotation are bad pre 72

[fierce matrix]

Does dragoon still have to wait till like 40 to get its first AoE

[craggy marsh]

Ya

[fierce matrix]

lmao

[tall field]

Pld is what? 1 2 scorn?

1 fof 2 scorn ok

[craggy marsh]

Meanwhile dancer gets a 1200 potency aoe at lvl 15

[distant knoll]

yeah it still gets aoe buttons at like 40 62 72 or something

oh im actually on the mark

[tall field]

720**

[craggy marsh]

Still ridiculous

[tall field]

Ye lets hit that sastasha bat

[amber fable]

Low level meta

[craggy marsh]

Jobs in ARR content are so funny man

[amber fable]

Funny shit

[distant knoll]

isnt double standard finish 800 -> 850

[tall field]

Iirc i thought its 720

[amber fable]

It get potency up later on

[distant knoll]

looks like 7.0 changed the base potency to 800

[tall field]

Mch aoe also hurts hard at low level

140 with 0 falloff means on a group

It competes vs dancer quite well

[trim frost]

uhhhh

weird question

did immobile suit get renamed to system lock

[pale blade]

no

[trim frost]

hmm

im not able to find anything for immobile suit on garlandtools

[pale blade]

hmm

[trim frost]

ok i wasn't insane

this is diamodn weapon

[pale blade]

huh

lmao

wonder what warranted the change

[trim frost]

same for m8sp2

[fierce matrix]

im about to crashout lmao

I died to autos

as a WAR

after healing myself to full 3 times

[sick reef]

green dps go brrr

[fierce matrix]

thats the crazy part

they werent

[verbal frost]

what content?

[fierce matrix]

new EX

[sick reef]

bros were just takin in the sights ig

[verbal frost]

that whm def has on trash gear

just look at the crit and dh numbers

[amber fable]

Its not gear bro

Whm played either crap or died a lot

[fierce matrix]

0 deaths, 770 non penta

[amber fable]

Then skill gap I fear

[trim frost]

i was mt drk earlier and i got to a point where i felt like i needed to have at least dark mind or oblation up most of the time to not eat shit to autos

[dull drum]

call me crazy but the job doesnt feel significantly different

[thin fox]

they should've just removed the gauge entirely

if they were going to do this

because now the gauge just doesn't do anything

you can't pool resources because you can't fit those in your burst

even under pot you'd just be using your other gnashing

at least with dark knight and warrior you can fit in extra fell cleaves / bloodspillers under the 2m buffs

[dull drum]

rath trying to solo hades for his life based on his twit posts

[thin fox]

Ill be real

I dont think its happening

[dull drum]

yeah theres no shot

[thin fox]

its sad that its gonna end at the most expected place

[dull drum]

getting past susanoo was alr an achievement cant lie

[thin fox]

he got hades down to 72% on reaper

so

not even close to what he needs

oh interesting I didn't know that if you die in phase 2 of hades normal it respawns you at phase 2

on second pull he got about halfway (66%)

so yeah not even close really

[dull drum]

maybe if they buffed reaper / s

[thin fox]

he needs to get hades to 30%

thats when hades will just skip to the final phase

[verbal frost]

this why white mages should be strongest healer

how cbu3 going to make easy job selfish dps and expect them to not grief pf?

[loud nymph]

ngl I was expecting him to get through hades but get walled at WoL

[verbal frost]

how it is possible anways don't you need tank lb3?

[loud nymph]

for hades? no lmao

[verbal frost]

WoL

[loud nymph]

yes, hence why I expected he would get walled there

[verbal frost]

I assume hades not possible solo b/c he takes you captive

not much you can do

[half holly]

Hi endgame chat

[sharp hollow]

wish i knew OC pots suck now 72 at the fates only 20 ppl get

[dapper zealot]

That's always been a thing iirc

only a limited number of pots

[sharp hollow]

yes its been a thing but ppl rarly did it

10-15 tops

[dapper zealot]

yeah cause it used to suck ass

[sharp hollow]

now its the whole instance going for the new Acc

did not suck for ppl who wanted a easy braindead gold/silver farm

to the convo above i can see rath beating hades but WoL will be unbeatable as you need LB3 tank

[sick reef]

cant u dc travel for OC?

[sharp hollow]

Iirc they share a dc dont they

[sick reef]

ah sorry i meant world, like from primal to aether or sum

[sharp hollow]

oh im sure its just as bad in the other servers

[sick reef]

in primal rn lol

[sharp hollow]

ill prob dc hope later then as watching anime

[dapper zealot]

dynamis OC is probably empty

[low hearth]

god uwu is such a waste of time

no way the whm dashed into the party with searing wind

https://tenor.com/view/speed-mad-angry-ishowspeed-sheisty-gif-13492318246358992086

[alpine plover]

pushes you into wall

[low hearth]

i guess they died to landslide or sum

watching 5 people die instantly in a c41 is so annoying

[jagged aspen]

huh if you use cover on a stack mech, you get 2 vulns and die?

[low hearth]

fight blows

[mortal flower]

Cover takes all effects of damage you take

Vulns, debuffs, DoTs, even knockback

Aka: if you cover a KB and a KB wave happens you'll take double and hit death wall/fall off map

[jagged aspen]

yea i kinda didnt connect the dots that it would do that with a party stack

[thin fox]

its so funny how sch is just gonna be the meta this tier

ANOTHER YEAR OF SAGE = GRIEF

[daring pine]

sch moment

[low hearth]

whats wrong with sage

[daring pine]

sage isnt the problem here, i don’t think

[alpine plover]

i mean scholar is always a tiny bit better

[low hearth]

oh

that Expedience be hitting different

[alpine plover]

thus, pf will understand scholar = god, sge = grief

[thin fox]

we have a two target fight this tier

guess which shield/pure pair are gains on 2

[alpine plover]

i switched to sge in m6s but that was like 4+ targets

[daring pine]

oh boy i sure hope it’s not ast/sch!

[alpine plover]

[thin fox]

[daring pine]

actually which gains on 2 does ast have

[zealous meteor]

malefic/gravity i assume

yeah, gravity is 140 per target, malefic is 270

[daring pine]

gg

[thin fox]

yea gravity is a 10 potency gain on 2

[daring pine]

cooked

[thin fox]

sch is something disgusting its like a 40 potency gain on 2

plus its an instant cast

gg

[zealous meteor]

i mean this assumes that savage has no "keep the bosses apart" mechanics

or firewalls

[jolly flume]

I promise you healer 2 target isn't what's gonna matter

[random needle]

Im kinda hoping there is a firewall at some point or some other "keep them apart" mechanic

Mostly because I hate using BLM AOE for anything other than dungeon trash

[lyric summit]

blm aoe isnt even a gain on two

as far as i know

[random needle]

Last I checked, balance said it is, just with Blizzard 4 instead of Freeze

[daring pine]

blm aoe isn’t real

[random needle]

I'm kinda glad BLM can't cleave during p6 DSR, having to do AOE rotation during everything else going on would have been so buns

[loud nymph]

I'm expecting a firewall situation for m10s but it would be kinda cool if there wasn't

[random needle]

It's possible, but normal mode already had a few mechanics that naturally pulled them away from each other, like the surfing proteans or the blue one making the knockback

[robust shoal]

I expect the reason they gutted vpr cleave is lack of a firewall

[loud nymph]

very true

[zealous meteor]

i'm hoping there's a firewall/proximity thing tbh

because i don't want to spend 99% of the fight just spamming art of war while within kissing distance of them

let me move

[loud nymph]

you will slap the ground and you will enjoy it goddamnit

[random needle]

Just make HF2 and HB2 usable buttons again, PLEASE

[loud nymph]

slap that ground

[zealous meteor]

i don't want to get inbetween their yaoi

[loud nymph]

I mean, fair

[zealous meteor]

happy gay couple

evil and intimidating popoto

[low hearth]

m10s finna be annoying ahh hell

[lyric summit]

this could be firewall (datamine)

but it also could be anything

[clear plume]

I don’t want to share what’s been datamined bc it’s spoilers

But the entire fight will 100% not be 2 target is the tldr of them

[random needle]

Left one is kinda giving

[lyric summit]

its the same thing as alr on the arena

[random needle]

I'm aware, I just didn't have a chance to comment on it until now

[pale blade]

I hate everything and everyone

[loud nymph]

Deep blue has whiskers huh

[robust shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/beedrill-true-true-morgan-freeman-pokemon-pokemon-stadium-gif-2986536372989746780

[pale blade]

people remembering how funny Pokemon Stadium animations were

I'm sobbing

[robust shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/snorlax-pokemon-gif-8268733

[pale blade]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-stadium-charmander-faint-gif-879217548212731124

[jade nimbus]

Uronically bring it back

[pale blade]

https://tenor.com/view/jynx-pokémon-pokémon-stadium-faint-gif-10331387961819483605

[loud nymph]

I have so many questions

[amber fable]

Snorlax getting catheterised there

[rain geode]

If they weren't going to let you punch both of them at once they probably wouldn't have bothered nerfing VPRs cleave damage

[pale blade]

Nidoqueen's is the funniest one imo

[clear plume]

We have the debuff text for that known and it’s not a firewall though I can crop it and spoiler it bc it’s not a big spoiler though

[lyric summit]

https://tenor.com/view/golem-shit-ass-pokemon-pokemon-stadium-gif-8688892287206344649

[pale blade]

https://tenor.com/view/gengar-explodes-gif-27158062

[clear plume]

Spoiler r10s debuff

[lyric summit]

thats a different debuff

[remote gate]

why does the left look like persona 3 orpheus

[lyric summit]

that's just the head markers from normal mode cones

[random needle]

Yeah no this is normal mode, they don't die until they're both at 0 and they mark people with debuffs for the surfing proteans

[pale blade]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-stadium-mr-mime-dance-gif-14206980504692546072

[remote gate]

should I change the battle music to a 2000s surfer boy show intro theme

[dapper zealot]

will take a blow

Blowjob brothers confirmed

[zealous meteor]

they're the xtremes avages, not blowjob brothers

[clear plume]

It’s so far believed that the same debuff text is used in second phase too similar to bloodrake type beat (more major spoiler in photo)

[visual geyser]

back when pokemon had personality

[random needle]

Is... Is the current song not already that exact energy?

[sick dirge]

huh, ||they arent separate bosses in M10S?||

[random needle]

The Mirror feels like something you'd hear on Disney Channel in the 2000s, or in Tony Hawk's Pro Skater

[wicked delta]

you could describe everything with 1 single word

gnarly

[random needle]

"Bet you've never seen anything this gnarly!"

[remote gate]

wicked!

[dapper zealot]

Thunder

[clear plume]

R12 spoilers so far is crazy though, fight is gonna be a banger

Please look forward to it

Buff text spoiler not major || “Limit gauge is gradually filling.”||

[sick dirge]

[lyric summit]

thats pvp map weather

buff

[clear plume]

That would be less exciting, but it is the last buff ID in what looks like the 12s section so could be not actually 12s

[lyric summit]

i mean you can just go into pvp and get the buff

[undone tide]

chat texas is actually garbage

this place is just capitalism incarnate

[boreal pumice]

Malcom in the middle was goated

[pale blade]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-stadium-venusaur-gif-11603825162008010819

[jagged aspen]

is anyone here using the chinese pf plugin?

[zealous meteor]

the what

[jagged aspen]

pfradar

[loud nymph]

what purpose would that serve

[zealous meteor]

ive never even heard of it

[jagged aspen]

it shows who is in the party without joining

just wondered since its been barely working today

[zealous meteor]

mmmmmm

[jagged aspen]

what did you do with the rest 😮

[pale blade]

what do you mean my plugins are now Chinese

[jagged aspen]

well idk it says something in chinese

[sick reef]

😭

[low hearth]

who got the brain dead arcane revelation raidplan ?

why are mfs normalizing ts

[lyric summit]

its just tanks top left, party top right and big mit

[low hearth]

oh

[sick reef]

dont join pf

[low hearth]

like seeing that in the listing is lowkey a red flag

[random needle]

People will do anything but press a ranged GCD

[sick reef]

bums inhabit that pf group

[lyric summit]

its comfy but i wouldnt trust pf to mit

[jagged aspen]

we got to ice phase in dec 2025 ama

on ex3

[loud nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/falcon-sam-wilson-outta-line-but-gif-22091662

[sick reef]

ilvl 690 shenanigans

[jagged aspen]

with no deaths

[loud nymph]

how

[sick reef]

yall runnin lvl90 tomestone gear or what

[latent terrace]

there is no way to see who is a pf not even with network packets

it gives class and content id

my guess is it works like playerscope

[jagged aspen]

it croudsources player names judging from its description

but definintely not pf contents since that wont work with 160k downloads

[latent terrace]

sus

basically that means you are also giving your own contentid and accountid

and probably friendlist and fc too

[latent terrace]

yeah basically playerscope

[jagged aspen]

does the client know which pf someone is in if theyre near you in a city?

[latent terrace]

it's probably accurate because it only takes a few idiots to park a few free trial accounts in limsa

[clear plume]

Looks more like if somebody in the pf specifically has it enabled it tells you it’s party members based on what info ff shares

[latent terrace]

no that means it will collect that id and names from players around you

[pale blade]

https://tenor.com/view/poe-dameron-heavy-sigh-star-wars-sigh-sighing-gif-26030273

[jagged aspen]

well thats what i said, that wouldnt really work with 160k downloads

since most pfs wouldnt have anyone with it. but it still shows everything

[latent terrace]

it would only take a few people to map 80% active playerbase with a crowdsource plugin

[clear plume]

I think you’re underestimating 160k users honestly

[low hearth]

yea we just enraged

[jagged aspen]

i mean, if you need someone in a pf to see who else is in there, how would mapping the playerbase help?

[low hearth]

ar cheese = 🪤

[latent terrace]

did you read the image you posted

because you can't really see who is in a pf not even with party tools

because the client only gives class and characterID

[pale blade]

Reading? In 2025?

[latent terrace]

i should make a character named unknown 01

Ol

[boreal pumice]

unknowen oi

[undone tide]

good morning

[low hearth]

0.8% doomtrain enrage is kinda funny

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-laugh-holding-laugh-funny-gif-18337824210956029100

[boreal pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/doomtrain-train-choo-gif-5757265

[random needle]

1% doomtrain wipe because party is incapable of doing arcane rev 2 somehow

[zealous meteor]

we got close

[random needle]

It's literally easier than 1, there's only 2 hits and you don't have to do the teleporter dance 😭

[zealous meteor]

yea the last car is so much easier

[random needle]

That's a common pattern for EX I think, the last few minutes are repeated mechanics that can be skipped if you're meeting the damage check

My second clear killed 2 minutes faster than our first one

[undone tide]

i died to enrage once in prog

hasn’t happened since

[terse zodiac]

Theres also only 2 patterns

For 2nd arcane

[jagged aspen]

it only talks about player names and home worlds. none of that explains where it gets info about who is in a given PF

[latent terrace]

doesn't even have a source code or i was not able to find it

[spice path]

I've never seen enrage. Had a pf that got close but wiped before. Thrn joined a c42 with 4/8 my static and cleared ez 5x even with a bunch of deaths (why did the tank keep stacking on me in spreads, WHY lol)

[low hearth]

we had a shit ton of deaths though lol

bad pull

[terse zodiac]

Thatll do it lmao

[spice path]

Arcane isn't hard. At all. Just a few gcd downtime at most for the first one.

[terse zodiac]

For 2nd its always side>other side or front > 3 rotations

[spice path]

That being said, cheese is liveable. Especially with 770, and if your dps are smart and blessed with extra mits beyond faint. (No vipers). Its just silly to do it for such an already easy mech.

[jagged aspen]

just tank lb

if it looks bad

[undone tide]

i will never join a cheese party

it’s not a good strat and it’s certainly not fun

[amber fable]

Cheese

[tall field]

Train has read your comment

[jagged aspen]

you could sort of say that about every cheese strat in previous extremes. this one is only slightly more extreme

[loud nymph]

I had a SAM yesterday who referred to not using cheese as "heavy levels of cope" and then immediately afterwards they died to car 1 line/pair stacks

[amber fable]

Cheese strats are fine but like its an extreme

Nobody cares about ex parse anyway

Just dont wipe

[jagged aspen]

youd think that, but this strat exists 😄

[loud nymph]

ffxiv players will literally do anything to avoid taking a single GCD of downtime

[jagged aspen]

it obviously has no reason to exist other than parse

[random needle]

I would drop uptime specifically to /laugh at them

[normal summit]

Arcane revelation is the most fun mechanic in the fight.

[jagged aspen]

tank didnt adjust

surely

[normal summit]

Skipping it makes it a reeeeeeeally boring fight

[spice path]

I'm using the ex to get better at greeding and range tool optimization. Cause I suck at it. I didn't used to. But then I spent a their on ohys ranged.

[loud nymph]

it's a good mechanic and it's also really not hard

[jagged aspen]

doing anything 20+ times makes it really boring 😂

[random needle]

In general, I like that the fight makes you think about where you need to be standing almost constantly

[tall field]

But i am not too fast to respond /s

[zealous meteor]

put the uptime in the bag.

[random needle]

Shield Toss Please use it.

[sick reef]

duality of pf

[tall field]

Pld? Plds arent allowed to talk about uptime problems lol

[random needle]

Notice how the party that's already cleared isn't using BD and the party that hasn't cleared is

[sick reef]

how will i use shield bash w no uptime?

[sick reef]

#noticing

[tall field]

Warrior does ignore what? 2 or maybe 4 of the KBs that occur in ex6 so I might see pfs with warrior a lot too tbh

[terse zodiac]

Had a paladin cleaving the whole party multiple times in intermission as if they didnt have holy spirit/ranged burst during busters

[spice path]

Timing that egress into free Harpe and then hoping I can warp back before the portal expires lol

[tall field]

First KB war wont care
3rd KB war wont care

KB 5 and 6 in cart 6 you can ignore but dont bank on it

[random needle]

Funnily enough, I think I had a slightly easier time fake meleeing as BLM than I did doing normal ranged things

[spice path]

Reaper gap closers being untargeted is both a blessing and a curse sometimes.

[loud nymph]

I had a paladin who never once sprinted or gap closed to get back to his spread spot

[tall field]

So at most only 2 KBs you have to deal with

Of the 6

[loud nymph]

got to the point where I just said "fuck it, I guess I'm taking the tank spread spot now"

[tall field]

When ur phys ranged makes u forget you gotta run ahead

[terse zodiac]

Pf is just full of some of the people of all time

[spice path]

Maybe that's what I should have done when my tank wasnt moving enough. Ingress ahead.

[random needle]

Gotta use eyes sometimes

I should get Picto to 100 sometime, it'd be fun to have a different take on casting...

[undone tide]

decide for yourself obviously but its

pretty boring

[thin fox]

[random needle]

BLM feels like I'm constantly trying to figure out where and when I want to use my resources like lines, triple, xenos, etc.

Picto from what I've played feels like the opposite, where I have a lot of resources and have to make sure I'm using them all and not wasting anything like motifs or subtractive paint

[thin fox]

xenos is just save as many for 2m as you can

[undone tide]

the cast times are painfully slow and having a lot of resource actually makes it very boring

[loud nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/modern-problems-solutions-dave-chapelle-gif-13450651

[remote gate]

i need to cap some stones tonight actually

[thin fox]

I still need to cap alt tomes

Im 29 away

so hoping I just get a level 100 trial in my trial roulette

so I dont have to run another dungeon or whatever

oh nvm level 100 trials give

way fewer than I thought

ig Ill hard queue a level 100 raid

[zealous meteor]

i capped my stome tones on tuesday

[scarlet lintel]

is getting a pink parse mostly resered for parse parties or am i skill issue

[robust shoal]

good kt helps massively

[sinful brook]

And critting a buttload

[proper cave]

Crit the butt pad

[remote gate]

potting contributes greatly to parses right

[sly basin]

yesss get high

[scarlet lintel]

i get oranges with good KT and potting but never pink

and warrior crits most things already so idk

[sly crescent]

I'm late to the relic grind so I'm farming demiatma atm
I understand why Endwalker was a tomestone farm

I want to be fed to a morbol

[robust shoal]

99 is also luck

[jolly flume]

you gotta crit the fell cleaves outside of IR too

[scarlet lintel]

i see

so it's like a super rare thing?

[jolly flume]

also honestly

the easier a job is

the more parsing high devolves into crit farming

[scarlet lintel]

just worried i might not know my job well enough idk

[jolly flume]

99 is rarely ever job knowledge

if you can consistently purple nothing in the game will ever give you a struggle tbh

but if you're good good you can usually consistent orange

pink? gl unless you're god himself ig

[sly basin]

i rec once u get to the last few to just farm the dt zone fates instead of oc, to save ur sanity

[scarlet lintel]

lol well fair enough

and yeah if i have the gear and i dont like die i can consistently purple

[jolly flume]

then no dps check will ever be real for you

personally I'm satisfied with that level, I can get my oranges and my pinks but I really don't care

just kill the boss

[scarlet lintel]

bet

[sly crescent]

I am doing zone fates already

[sly basin]

i love all the strategy board art

[robust shoal]

this is me playing pld perfectly in m4s

[sly basin]

gyatt damn

[robust shoal]

gnb was easier because the job is (or was lol) harder

[tulip anvil]

some guy is freaking out in my pf cus i joined as a pictomancer too

[jolly flume]

nobody played machinist

😭

we historical af up in this bitch anyways

m4s was kinda bad though pf never killed remotely close to 10:30 and if you saw sunrise for a 12:30 it was a coinflip on wiping anyways

funny lil fight for kts

[mossy eagle]

Yeah anything beyond purple is gravy

[robust shoal]

yeah I had a lot of just before 12m burst kills

~25% of my kills skipped sunrise and ~50% killed before the second cannons

the run I got 100 on drk was a parse pt where we were killing at 11:00

[remote gate]

my lord so many clears

[robust shoal]

then some guy died twice and we got 11:20

[tulip anvil]

that makes a lot of sense

[jolly flume]

I think my fastest was a static kill where our pct died in intermission lol

but pf could never come close to outdpsing even that

maybe the parse parties would on a good run but I never joined those

not that I could've, on mch

lol

[undone tide]

my fastest static kill was 11:20

(i had a reclear static with friends)

[hot rose]

Have the prices for gear gone down yet?

[rain geode]

They're dropping every day

[random needle]

Universalis knows better than we do

[hot rose]

So we looking at 300k a piece orrrrr!?

[rain geode]

Im willing to best most fights are clearable if the whole party has a 50, Certainly they're all clearable if everyone gets a high green.

[shy obsidian]

As a melee DPS, will I have to get uncomfortably close to the edge of the elevated platforms in the funny train?

[hot rose]

Fights are clearable with all greys lol

[rain geode]

If the explosion is on the northen most tip yes

[amber fable]

Most are clearable even as all grey

[hot rose]

It always be the first clear

[random needle]

I think if Arcane Revelation has you go to the south safe spot, you have to dance on the edge of the upper platform

Since if you drop off, you have to do a full loop to get back on

[rain geode]

Correct although since the arcane rev explosion is telegraphed its not that bad

[random needle]

And the safe spot is actually pretty big

[rain geode]

Im not a big parse brained gal, I love playing safe with a few extra GCD heals, but I do feel a bit good having a purple on train

[random needle]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G8iepupawAAuLAk.gif

If it fits, I sits

[hot rose]

Whoever plays on controller; is your hotbar 2 set to double tap R2/L2?

[random needle]

Yes

[hot rose]

And your hotbar 3 is hold L2 then R2 vice versa?

[random needle]

Yeah, though I have that set to hotbar 8 and I put my all-class abilities there

[hot rose]

This is what I’m having the most struggle is having to weave a button on this hotbar

[random needle]

Stuff like sprint, mount, teleport, limit break, the works

[hot rose]

I sometimes have trouble double tapping to get to hotbar 2

Either im not tapping fast enough orrr

It’s like a work im progress for me

Just feels weird lol

[scarlet lintel]

yeah this is what i felt like my parses should look like and they are nowhere near that lol

[random needle]

It's a skill you build with time, and I think there's a setting you can adjust for how fast you need to double tap to open it

[hot rose]

Yeahh I set mine to 45, Wbu?

[random needle]

I don't remember, I think it's just the default

[scarlet lintel]

my EX parses look like that at least. maybe if i actually manage to week 1 this tier i can get savage to too since the only savage tiers i played i started in like week 15

[hot rose]

Having to learn how to play TANK in controller for the first time and immediately doing level 100 content is not for the faint of heart 😭

[random needle]

I think the most frenetic job I've done on controller is Astro

Still definitely playable, but you have to be zooming to not clip your weaves and still put cards on the right people in burst

[scarlet lintel]

i play controller and i like playing astro a lot

[random needle]

I like it too, it's just very demanding on me

I vibe well with Scholar

[clear plume]

Rate my page

But yeah, on rdps class your median will be higher typically

I have 99.4 median on some fights in that same tier on bard and I’m far from the only bard with that type of page

Getting a 99 isn’t exactly crit luck but it certainly isn’t a level of skill or consistency needed for most content

[wicked delta]

properly leveling blm instead of buying a skip for the first time and i feel like im a sprout again

every level i get a new button and im like "man what the fuck is that" lmfao

[sly basin]

🤨 watching da tank always not being fast enough for derailment

[dapper zealot]

New strat dropped

Just bonk the train

[jolly flume]

top on patch was median green to clear p6

[jolly flume]

tyfs

but yeah I think you should aim for purple even if green clears yknow, it's a reasonable thing to achieve with a bit of effort and it affords you a lot more leeway with bad players, new players, deaths

a clear is always a clear but one day it absolutely will make the difference

[random needle]

What's the range for purple? 60-80 or summat?

I've definitely got room to improve for ex6, I think I got a blue but I was definitely messing some stuff up near the end

[amber fable]

75+

[rain geode]

75+ is a purple

[random needle]

Ahhh okay

[sly basin]

ok do ppl usually join "c41" that havent cleared before

or is crystal just evil

[random needle]

If you make a c41 but don't mark "has already cleared" as a PF requirement, that's on you I think

[amber fable]

If you're confident

Then join it

[sly basin]

was bro's first time in the ex

[zealous meteor]

c41 (i'm the one it's for)

[amber fable]

Well as long as you dont make it too evident

[sly basin]

ahhh ok, maybe ill try making a pf later (i cleared already) to make sure

i think they had it set to not already cleared

[random needle]

I mean, if you've already cleared, it's not a c41

[amber fable]

I remember joining a c41 ex3 and got corpse dragged

[rain geode]

Typically you would set it so only people with clears can join

[random needle]

It's just a reclears or farm party

[sly basin]

ah no i mean i think ill just make my own pf next time, and ill be chill w ppl who have seen enrage/most mechs

but no fresh ppl again

[kind elm]

have you cleared ex sam

[random needle]

She has

I was there

[sly basin]

i would be down to help u clear tho

[kind elm]

[remote gate]

we cleared last night together

[zealous meteor]

yeah

idk how the fuck i cleared but

[sly basin]

oh nice!! i cleared last night too

[remote gate]

was that your first hardcore content on patch sam

[zealous meteor]

uhhhhhh second or third
i cleared seiryu unreal and arkveld ex

[sly basin]

ooooo wanna do ex2...

[zealous meteor]

but seiryu is a joke and with arkveld i spent half the fight dead

[sly basin]

its my fav

[random needle]

ex2 is pretty fun

[rain geode]

Have you done tsu yet?

[zealous meteor]

nope

[random needle]

I still need to go back and do ex3

[kind elm]

if u guys ever need a tank sub im both of those things

i mean

uh

[rain geode]

Whats ex 2

[zealous meteor]

i wanna focus on getting my doomtrain weapons first

[zealous meteor]

yes liv we know

you're transfem

of course you are

[random needle]

Zoraal Ja

[zealous meteor]

lizard with daddy issues

[sly basin]

https://tenor.com/view/ffxiv-final-fantasy-xiv-dawntrail-zoraal-ja-zarool-gif-16000466286155160366

[zealous meteor]

not to be confused with big angry lizard (arkveld)

[remote gate]

i have an extra coffer so i might use it for a dps idk

[random needle]

ex1-6 are Valigarmanda, Zoraal Ja, Queen Eternal, Zelenia, Necron, and Doomtrain respectively

Arkveld is just kinda there

[zealous meteor]

arkveld is ex5½

[remote gate]

is it okay to have three or more selfish dps

sapp is blm and aki is a vpr

[kind elm]

you can have as many as you want

[terse zodiac]

Its ok to have any comp

[kind elm]

it literally does not matter unless youre racing for speedkills

[rain geode]

Ah I kinda want to run a farm an earlier ex for the wings at some point

I did the current unreal before train since the gear gets synced anyway

[random needle]

I want a party with a WHM, a SGE, a SAM, a VPR, a MCH, and a BLM, and whichever tanks

[terse zodiac]

Selfish comps better bc no 2 min meta just press buttons

[random needle]

The mythical pure selfish comp

[dapper zealot]

I might do ex1 and 2 during the 7.55 lull

[loud nymph]

I still haven't cleared tsukuyomi tbh

[rain geode]

Last night my fc cleared doom train with double MCH any comp is fine

[loud nymph]

tonight maybe

[kind elm]

i mean from a numbers perspective that is categorically false but yes

i love just edging on cd

[terse zodiac]

For fun i mean not for results

[remote gate]

edge of darkness

[random needle]

If I manage to get bis, I kinda wanna go back and farm for all the previous wings

[rain geode]

It's really easy so getting it out of the way quick isn't that bad

[remote gate]

i still haven't cleared vil-gar-manda 💀

[loud nymph]

yeah I did some PFing and saw enrage but ddos-kun killed my party both times

[kind elm]

i havent done an unreal since thordan

[loud nymph]

it really isn't too hard

[remote gate]

car2 is the hardest phase imo

[loud nymph]

just do meteors right and remember bright right dark left

[rain geode]

The only problem is because it's so easy you get a lot of reallt bad players

[remote gate]

zoraal ja is even easier lol

[rain geode]

It's the WHM meme

[kind elm]

id say last car is harderif only for the fact that he stores the first stack/spread for long enough for everyone in pf to forget what it was

even with callouts

[random needle]

The logic then is to press the callout macro again right before it's time to resolve?

[kind elm]

that wont help them

theyre lost causes

[random needle]

<se.6>

[zealous meteor]

[kind elm]

the way i do it in vc with frens is that i always call "buddies for later"/"spread for later" after the callout for every mech leading up to that

to fucking force it into their heads

"spreads for later"
"turrets, spreads for later"
"down, up, spreads for later"
"stay up for turrets, spreads for later"

[loud nymph]

that's pretty smart

[kind elm]

then ill still forget

and kill everyone

epic sauce

[loud nymph]

I'm gonna steal that for when I do callouts on stuff for my group

[rain geode]

All this talk makes me want to run content but I probably can't get on for another hour or two

I still need to at least get my WHM weapon

Maybe I'll actually do some clears as WHM

[remote gate]

i need to do more runs so I can improve my parse if youre available tonight

[random needle]

It'd be fun to join tonight, but I have my other static

We reclear e10s because my usual cohealer was missing last time, then we get back to Mr. Daddy Issues

[rain geode]

I'm down

I'm gonna be online in an hour or 2

[dapper zealot]

Just get online quicker

Ez

[remote gate]

it'll probably be at 6:30 pm est if thats good

[jolly flume]

i'll join on my dial up

teamviewer ffxiv from my phone

[dapper zealot]

Join on that maccas wifi

[jolly flume]

dude it's like sub 1mbps

mcdonald's could do better

[remote gate]

use Nintendo wifi and give me your friend code

[remote gate]

turning your phone into a hotspot would be better

[dapper zealot]

Yo someone hotspot me, I need to WF

[rain geode]

Sure just shoot me a message I'll probably either be in pf or oc in the meantime

[remote gate]

o/

[half holly]

Hi endgamers

[rain geode]

Meowdy

[sly crescent]

Imma lose it

I've over doubled my bicolor gemstones from Living Memory fates and I haven't gotten a single demiatma

[remote gate]

if I may, limit yourself to 1 hour of fates and 1 hour of oc to stay sane

thats what I did to get the grind done

[rain geode]

I just did like 6-7 hours of OC a day until I got them all

[remote gate]

how did you survive

[rain geode]

wdym?

[remote gate]

i nearly died of boredom

[rain geode]

I mean the OC critical engagements are fun enough

[dapper zealot]

By doing it week 1

[remote gate]

you have greater endurance than me 🧎‍♂️

[remote gate]

fair week 1 no one knew anything besides chests give mounts

[rapid whale]

hoping zone 2 is way better

fren said they almost always improve on zone 2

[dapper zealot]

Haven't touched OC since then

[rapid whale]

im a lil concerned im gonna need +2 gear to participate once zone 2 comes out but SURELY NOT right

surely it'll be +1 of whatever the new gear is

[rain geode]

I mean forked seems really hard to get into and you need to do forked for +2 rigth so it would be a bit cruel to need it

[rapid whale]

my copium is the new +1 gear is gonna have so much more base stat, the extra mastery points won't be worth it

oh god what if they require you to have a full set of accessories NOOOO

[rain geode]

I mean these are my osrs stats and Im not even finished

[random needle]

They're gonna make a normal difficulty for Forked Tower Magic, so probably that one is gonna be doable with standard gear?

And then the hard version will expect kitted out OC stuff

[dapper zealot]

The only thing that's going to be bis 100% is the map

[rapid whale]

wdym the map?

im a lil slow sry

[dapper zealot]

The riding map

[rapid whale]

oh

omegalul

[tulip anvil]

yknow wat i hope

[half holly]

Bapple!! My favourite fellow pictomancer

[tulip anvil]

i hope they make a new music track for the north horn

[rapid whale]

ouh welcome to endgame

[dapper zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/monkeys-paw-paw-monkey-gif-17535679

Same theme as south horn but remix

[rapid whale]

my huffing copium moment is that the whole, "i was very disappointed by the oc team" followed with "now hiring" by SE means the next oen about to go crazy

[half holly]

What have u been up to

[rapid whale]

cuz thats the most jp way of saying, "these fuckers are DEMOTED" if not fired lmao

[rapid whale]

just the usual, prepping for next tier

i am drowning in popcorn

did you get your crafted set yet

[wicked delta]

ITS MINE BITCHESSSS

[random needle]

https://tenor.com/view/good-afternoon-popcorn-snacks-snoopy-gif-13113477

[rapid whale]

https://tenor.com/view/greedy-pot-yu-gi-oh-yugioh-gif-1156091889875709808

[boreal pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/groovy-austin-powers-baby-gif-5579482

[zealous meteor]

oh you got the homosexual

[dapper zealot]

They all are

[rain geode]

speaking of OC do I wanna do some OC or PF some train

[zealous meteor]

they all are but the minion literally has a rainbow

[rapid whale]

2-6 enjoyers can rot

[half holly]

The level 100 gatherer gear? Im nearly done getting all the materials and then i need to find someone to make it

[zealous meteor]

synced down to lv80 and

[rapid whale]

oh i meant your combat set but yeah i can do that too if oyu want

you can ignore condensed solutions i got that for you

[remote gate]

would you rather be at lvl 50 or 80

[rapid whale]

dood did you know at some levels art of war is dps neutral for sch lmaoooo

[zealous meteor]

oh i meant the 2.39 recast

[half holly]

I need the gatherer gear to gather the things for the combat set…ive been dealing with lvl 90 gatherer gear for months

[rapid whale]

yaya if you got mats i gotchu, can ignore condensed solutions entirely

[remote gate]

Despair

this is why I refuse to have skill speed on any of my equipment when I tank

[dapper zealot]

Get to scrip farming

[remote gate]

the gnb relic having skill speed is actually evil

[rapid whale]

speaking of sks gnb how u liking the changes shiggy

[half holly]

I think i need the mason’s abrasive and a few more mathmatic tome things and then im good. Thank you tho omg

[rapid whale]

yea masons i didnt stock up

[half holly]

Dw ive been fishing

[rapid whale]

still a little miffed all my gambles for prep went awry but meh

i had 3k condensed solutions ready beause they were used in ew for the combat sets lmaooooo

[remote gate]

i can't play gnb anymore tbh

[rapid whale]

damn that bad?

[dapper zealot]

Don't think abrasives are part of the recipes

[half holly]

I was gonna just buy it like i had to do with the other legendary node stuff because not enough perception but its like a bajillion dollars

[remote gate]

the gnashing fang change is whatever but making lionheart a 1 minute makes it lose so much potential

[rain geode]

See I like because now I get to hit the cool button more

[dapper zealot]

Now time to slowly sell them off

[remote gate]

doesn't help the job got a 1% nerf for no honest reason when pre patch gnb was perfectly fine

[rain geode]

Lionheart combo is probably one of the coolest looking things the player can do

[half holly]

Bapple u mind if i ping u when i get all the mats it might not be until later today or tmr

[rapid whale]

they need crafting/gathering gear

[rapid whale]

yea im just chillin if im busy im busy but ye

[dapper zealot]

Oh thought this was for combat

[rapid whale]

they need both

[half holly]

Im free all week so anytime is ok

[rain geode]

Does 1% actually change anything

[rapid whale]

yea we got 2 more weeks

[rapid whale]

might die to raid wide if only 10% + shield (aka a dps or tank messed up) at min ilvl idk

[half holly]

Im currently gear locked out of the 7.4 trial because i only have 740 gear for caster its pretty bad

[rain geode]

I thought we were talking about damage

I dont remember them changing any of its defensive stuff but I might of missed it

[rapid whale]

if everyones playing perfectly prob not

it's 1% raw stats iirc

so vit + mnd/int/etc

so smoller shield + smoller hp pool

in reality prob not the biggest loss

[rain geode]

? they just changed its potency not its base stats right?

[rapid whale]

oh are you talking about gnb

mb it hought you meant like "if you dont bring every role" 1%

eg leaving out a phys range

[rain geode]

ah

[remote gate]

i guess making lionheart come every sixty seconds just doesn't make it as special if that makes sense

like it was rad to use it at 2 minutes because it gave serotonin but now it doesn't

[rain geode]

I can see the arguement in theory but in practice I dont think 1 and 2 minutes is enough of a differnce to devalue ti

at least for me

[remote gate]

its just like

[rain geode]

like if they turned it into the 1-2-3 combo I see it

[remote gate]

if you played the job it doesn't feel good anymore

idk how else to put it in words but I just can't play gnb

[rain geode]

I mean it is like my 5th most played job

[remote gate]

i suppose you understand what I mean?

[boreal pumice]

its like being a ew blm into dt blm

[rain geode]

I understand in theory but not in practice since I find it a lot more fun to play now

It even had me thinking of going back on playing Healer this tier

[rapid whale]

are we ready for 8.0 gnb to have an ogcd continuation to lionheart

[remote gate]

plus making two gnashing fangs in tea is just ugh because I have to possibly use two gnashing fangs in one no mercy window which just makes my gcd mapping all over the place

[rapid whale]

they'll call it zantetsuken or something

[remote gate]

yes if lion goes back to 120

[random needle]

How would you feel if they gave you Bloodfest every 1m, but Lionheart goes back to being 2m only

[half holly]

Im just gonna sit here and pretend like i understand what skills we are talking about mhm yep

[remote gate]

fine actually

would make overlapping a thing of the past though technically thats what pre-lvl 100 gnb is

[undone tide]

i’d rather have lionheart every minute than using fucking keen edge in no mercy

[rapid whale]

you will put the gnashing fang in the pot

[remote gate]

im gonna probably end up learning drk since warrior is rough in hardcore content

[random needle]

DRK is fun

[rapid whale]

what makes war rough? not disagreeing im just ignorant

[remote gate]

if square made living shadow a 60 second how fucked would drk be

[random needle]

Warrior... It's probably harder than it looks remembering to not press Primal Rend at certain moments

[zealous meteor]

probably the mits?

[random needle]

Flavor wise, it'd be sorta sad

Gameplay wise, one extra oGCD 🥱

[zealous meteor]

and primal rend yes

[remote gate]

cough doom train during spreads or suck/blow

[rain geode]

It could use one more personal mit but thats mostly it

[random needle]

The mits (or lack thereof)

[zealous meteor]

having forced gap closers in your rotation is a bit of a pain (glares at summoner)

[random needle]

Lots of self heals, which is great in dungeons and casual stuff, but not so much when one unmitted TB sends you from 100 to 0 in one slap

[remote gate]

the mits specifically. equilibrium is nice at first but it quickly loses value since the potency heal would literally be better as an actual damage reduction

[rapid whale]

oic

[rain geode]

I do think people over exagerate how bad the situation is but like it should get one more mit button fr

[remote gate]

thrill of battle is also very eh. the additional hp and increased healing is nice but id rather just have more defense

[rapid whale]

i mean it's all ehp at the end of the day no

[rain geode]

Thrills fine you just treat it more like a shield then a heal

[robust shoal]

yeah it's effectively just a 17% mit

[rapid whale]

gm cats

[remote gate]

yes but having actual mitigation and not having your hp turn to like 1 and then having an auto attack kill you is incredible

[rain geode]

meow

[robust shoal]

[rapid whale]

i see

[rain geode]

Thrill is also really nice with a SCH

[rapid whale]

im a stinky dps player so i have no adaptation ability i just push button go

[remote gate]

happens a lot because I used thrill for the tank busters prior to intermission

[robust shoal]

I do hate war tho

[half holly]

I love your username its so silly

[zealous meteor]

so many cats

[robust shoal]

:3

[half holly]

Hi sam

[rain geode]

I like War

[remote gate]

like id rather equal be turned into a 100% parry ability like bulwark/camo and last ten seconds then it be an on demand heal

[rain geode]

beeg axe

[true beacon]

oh shit there's a mine barb pf up

[zealous meteor]

[robust shoal]

funny thing, WAR used to have a 100% parry button

that's what Raw Intuition did in SB

[robust shoal]

With the additional dungeon-ruining side effect of making you get crit if you were attacked from behind

[random needle]

Reminder that Holmgang was not always an invuln

[rapid whale]

THERE IS NO ESCAPE

[remote gate]

can we have that replace equal and have it apply a regen as well

[undone tide]

tbh gnb gauge management is more difficult than it was before

[rain geode]

Honestly Id just make equal a like 10% mit that heals you for all the damage it mitagated when it expired

[remote gate]

isn't it in stb boss auto attacks can just crit as well

[rapid whale]

wait as in if you used it, it would then change you to getting crit back shots? or that was just a norm mech back then

[remote gate]

so in ucob you can just have bahamut auto attack crit you apparently

[zealous meteor]

free recitation

[rapid whale]

a self macrocosmos does sound kinda goated true

[robust shoal]

yeah until shb, and anything L70 or less can still crit like uwu/ucob

[rain geode]

Fits WAR heal theme and gives them another mit

[robust shoal]

it was part of RI's effect, parry from the front and crit from the back

[undone tide]

crit back shots