#endgame-lounge

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jolly flume
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yeah ill just KILL myself SMADGE

craggy marsh
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look at what DT did to them

zealous meteor
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skill issue

jolly flume
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nah its just because I haven't patronized PA in like a year

timber stratus
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oh yeah e'ju

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u play on linux right

zealous meteor
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yea

timber stratus
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was it annoying to get up

zealous meteor
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nope

jolly flume
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fork can't get it up?

timber stratus
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i got an ssd coming in and i thought about running dual boot

jolly flume
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šŸ„€

timber stratus
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yeah im old bro

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i wanna run bazzite dual boot on my 2nd drive

half holly
timber stratus
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i need a windows drive for league and stuff tho

random needle
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I should work on my crafter tools, aaauuuugghhh

timber stratus
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W

zealous meteor
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pretty sure bazzite comes with flatpak by default

timber stratus
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yeah it should be the steamdeck one

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it basically looks like windows 10, i dig it

half holly
timber stratus
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also i am so fucking done with windows 11 fucking my amd drivers so i wanna penguin it up for my big games

random needle
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I think I only have two of the relics done

zealous meteor
timber stratus
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i have not even done first stage relic yet šŸ„€

zealous meteor
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the steamos instructions are for if you're using big picture or own ffxiv on steam

timber stratus
zealous meteor
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anyway, xivlauncher works out of the box, reshade is a bit more complicated to set up (probably wanna check the xivlauncher server's linux channels)

timber stratus
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I dont really use reshade so thats w/e

random needle
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I should figure out a naming scheme for my crafting macros that'll make them easier to mash out on all the jobs

zealous meteor
timber stratus
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im too lazy for it

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although i could run some real heavy shit with my 9070 xt

zealous meteor
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i just use reshade to make the game look less green

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nothing super fancy

timber stratus
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i only used the thicc shaders for gposing but i dont really gpose anymore

zealous meteor
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ah kyuuchan_bow

timber stratus
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i always turned shaders off when i was actually gaming idk why but shaders made it feel wrong

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thats alright im above parsing

jolly flume
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yo anyone have like infinite materia and wanna sell to me in bulk

timber stratus
jolly flume
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I cannot be asked to buy these off the mb one by one

zealous meteor
timber stratus
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(my static parses so i dont have to)

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i also just dont really care about my numbers much i tend to know what mistakes im making already

remote gate
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ill blow you to smithereens

zealous meteor
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i think every plugin in dalamud's default repos works perfectly too, except browsingway (i've heard conflicting reports about that one)

teal sandal
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Forgive me but what does rank mean here

zealous meteor
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means you did more damage than x% of other players

jolly flume
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yeah it's your percentile ranking against other players of that job

teal sandal
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Ahh I see I see

zealous meteor
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so a 50% means you're better than 50% of other players who've parsed that fight on that job

teal sandal
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So mine is pretty bad comparatively ah_sit

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Which is fair

zealous meteor
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...or at least, did more damage than them

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gear can make a big difference especially later in a tier

timber stratus
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if its unreal its unlikely gear though

teal sandal
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Mhm, this was Wreath of Snakes unreal

zealous meteor
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yeah if it's unreal it's your actual performance

teal sandal
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Oof

zealous meteor
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first clear is always gonna be pretty shit tbf

teal sandal
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Fair, it was for me and I think 2 others

teal sandal
zealous meteor
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my first clear of seiryu was a 22 neofox_googly

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i'm still not good, my best is 50, but i'm improving. slowly.

jolly flume
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virtuous deeds you say

trim frost
# teal sandal

idk if xivanalysis accounts for most people holding stuff during adds though

teal sandal
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I was about to mention that yeah

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Realized a couple of those I did hold

undone tide
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always be pushing a button

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spamming hard slash is better than not having your gcd rolling

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(unless holding)

trim frost
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the hold in this case would just be not using bursts

jolly flume
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hold isn't real

trim frost
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hold would not be ā€œdon’t press anythingā€

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if you lose melee uptime for a gcd’s worth of time you can and should use your ranged attack

jolly flume
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holy fuck dh materia are cancer price

teal sandal
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I’m gonna look through some more of these later

trim frost
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and also remember that disesteem has a pretty long range

zealous meteor
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i holy my chain stratagem during seiryu adds because it's single target lmao

trim frost
undone tide
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my suggestion to you, ashe, is to hop over to the balance, learn the drk opener, and then practice it on a striking dummy until you’re comfortable with it, and then take it for a spin

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you’re opener is going to set you up for your entire rotation

jolly flume
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it's single target but getting a baneful use in aoe is fucking huge damage

teal sandal
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Gotcha mhm, I’m also learning War so I’ll practice that some

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See which clicks better

undone tide
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they play very similarly

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warrior just has less buttons

jolly flume
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same job different flavor

trim frost
jolly flume
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and less mit

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smile

undone tide
timber stratus
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and less clothes

zealous meteor
trim frost
zealous meteor
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i wish baneful impaction wasn't tied to my 2mins

undone tide
timber stratus
jolly flume
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if it actually loses you a use yeah idfk what people do in seiryu

timber stratus
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yeah they havent seen the warrior glam on my screen

undone tide
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they’re all catgirls with 2b pants

jolly flume
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I went in there once on drk thats it

teal sandal
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LMAO

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I should post my glams sometime

timber stratus
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it bounces when i fell cleave

undone tide
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i made a new tank glam today that goes kinda hard

trim frost
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adds come up super early so ppl hold 2s for use at the start of phase 2

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adds don’t do shit anyway

teal sandal
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I need to find a better war one though, I have the manderville stage 3 on my warrior

undone tide
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what do we think

teal sandal
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And the augmented hades ex glam’d on my drk

trim frost
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and then phase 2 is legitimately just eight minutes of striking dummy practice

jolly flume
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I sent a shadowbringer delirium salted and all my mp on adds

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and disesteem

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fuck your 2s im padding

teal sandal
trim frost
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skull

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i had a sage repeatedly not use enough mit/healing for adds blowing up

timber stratus
trim frost
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like

timber stratus
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unholy wall of glams im gonna use next tier

trim frost
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drake

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where’s panhaima

jolly flume
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I don't really do plate armor usually but

trim frost
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where’s philosophia

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this is like the only instance where damage is heavy and repeated

undone tide
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i love asphodelos chest but i’ve been using it for 4 years. i need new

jolly flume
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I guess this kinda counts

zealous meteor
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looking at my log, chain strat comes up around 2m5s into the fight, and seiryu becomes targetable again at like 3m20s

but everyone else holds their buffs too so i think me using chain strat and misaligning it with everyone else's buffs would be worse

trim frost
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ā€œi’m using all my shieldsā€ no you ain’t brother why are we ending adds with 3 panhaimatinon

clear plume
timber stratus
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diamond boots, asphodelos legs, panthean chest and arms

jolly flume
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get back here

timber stratus
undone tide
jolly flume
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I just spent a c41's worth of gil buying crit 11s

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that was a whole fru totem man

trim frost
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ain’t no way bro

zealous meteor
trim frost
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yeah that’s totally fair

zealous meteor
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(in my defense, nobody has died on my watch in adds)

jolly flume
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you can just use seraphism as whispering dawn 2 even if you're not going to gcd with it

trim frost
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not like damage is lacking in adds anyway so healbot as needed

undone tide
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imagine playing healer in this game

trim frost
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can this dude get off me i need to piss

zealous meteor
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yeah i usually succor at least once or twice during adds
(and before of course)

sinful brook
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I forgot about seraphism until halfway into m4s

timber stratus
sinful brook
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Damage isn't real

zealous meteor
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ok it's only 40 potency extra on aoe
i don't feel too bad about forgetting seraphism

sinful brook
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It's free regen

zealous meteor
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i should use it for sure neofox_googly

teal sandal
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Dumb question but is there a trial you can solo that is a good way to practice doing your rotation while dealing with mechanics?

jolly flume
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just load up a normal raid or smth, they pop pretty fast and you get actual mechanics to do

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in terms of solo stuff idk really

timber stratus
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yeah i like loading up omega or endwalker normals

jolly flume
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maybe p11 unsync for some pretty simple stuff on tank

teal sandal
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Gotcha

timber stratus
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and pretend that the aoes hurt

teal sandal
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I was doing Shinryu ex to practice x3

timber stratus
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or even some randomass trial

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ya that works too

teal sandal
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Ooh my warrior hits 100 tomorrow as well

zealous meteor
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168 materia 11 curency won't be nearly enough for savage will it

clear plume
jolly flume
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not nearly, if you're trying to pentameld

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I'll take the dh

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think my crit is enough

zealous meteor
timber stratus
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Shrimply do budget set

timber stratus
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If ur not week 1ing pentamelding isnt the end of the world

teal sandal
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I was looking for that tweet but couldnt find it

timber stratus
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I tend to overmeld 1 slot atleast

zealous meteor
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gotta wait until after savage to splurge on the yan mount i guess

jolly flume
zealous meteor
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oh damn

timber stratus
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When it comes to pentamelding i have like turboluck

dapper zealot
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Go start doing hunt trains

zealous meteor
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if only my laptop could handle big hunt trains

jolly flume
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you won't need to penta all your stuff bc of the extra weeks of tome gear we have tho

timber stratus
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I dont think i have ever spent more than 100 materia on pentamelding

zealous meteor
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it is Crying because of the hunt train i'm currently on. on dynamis

jolly flume
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I had pretty good penta luck this tier for main and alt

timber stratus
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Just meld crafted stuff normally until u have all ur tome stuff and then overmeld when u know what pieces u keep

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Tbh

boreal pumice
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paissasquint i hope fork gets unlucky so they have to buy my materia

timber stratus
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like u dont need pentameld for normal raids and ex

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nah if i get unlucky i simply wont pentameld

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i only use the materia i have

green vector
teal sandal
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All good, was gonna use it the same way you did in response to needing materia x3

clear plume
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ill do the 33 dh for 200k to get them gone, unless other servers are cheaper than gilg prices are then ill go lower, keep to the 66%ish of market price

jolly flume
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fine by me

zealous meteor
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oh my fucking gods the mark we just had didn't even LOAD IN on my end before it was dead

clear plume
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lmk what world i can stop by

jolly flume
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im in the same place

dapper zealot
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should I unload all my crystals into crit or dh for stonks

jolly flume
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tbh I dont even know if I scammed you on the first batch I just vibed a price lol

timber stratus
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i think dh is generally more expensive

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cuz supports use them lots

clear plume
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market price on them i had them up for was about 1.85m total so not bad for not dealing with mb undercuts

jolly flume
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dh is more expensive rn by a bit

clear plume
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10k for dh, 5k for det, 9k for crit was rates on gilg

jolly flume
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oh

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should I have just paid ur main lol

clear plume
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nah that alt has my crafters anyways

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i have multiple accounts so transferring gil isnt hard either

sick dirge
random needle
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Time to beat my head into making crafter relics again

dapper zealot
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I will happily upcharge and scam day 1 :)

teal sandal
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If I may ask what are those job crystal macros?

dapper zealot
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geatsets

teal sandal
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Is that to switch jobs or something role specific

jolly flume
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yea

zealous meteor
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probably switch jobs and title, or even just switching jobs with a prettier icon than the default

jolly flume
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I do stuff like this lol

teal sandal
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Woah

timber stratus
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i open my shitty character pane and equip the weapon and jobstone and gear like a MAN

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(i am too lazy to make gearsets)

jolly flume
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I have too many ultimate bis sets

teal sandal
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I have gearsets but only 1 per job

random needle
timber stratus
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šŸ¤“ "i have too many ultimate-" yeah ok unc

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we get it

jolly flume
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you not on that tea synced bis?

timber stratus
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no i just go in with random gear and one tap

jolly flume
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na pf cant one tap

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games too hard

timber stratus
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im playing on 8 computers

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one computer for each finger

jolly flume
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what are the last two doing

teal sandal
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ā€œI do not BiS, I do not pot, I do not use food and if we wipe I uninstallā€

timber stratus
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i dont have them

jolly flume
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gg

timber stratus
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la creatura

rapid whale
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As a dark knight in near bis I rarely have to press tbn

timber stratus
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these big nuts

jolly flume
timber stratus
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need

jolly flume
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😭

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to crack nuts, right

timber stratus
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oh yeah

jolly flume
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my gil is melting away like an ice cube in california and im sad

timber stratus
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Just ask ur cousin for more money

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np

jolly flume
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cousin auctions

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ong

zealous meteor
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just ask your cousin rmtbot

jolly flume
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maybe I should do a speed set just bc sps materia are cheap as dirt lmao

zealous meteor
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  • 180 materia xi currency
  • 60 crit
  • 51 det
  • 40 dhit
  • 62 sps
    surely that's enough neofox_nervous
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(it won't be)

jolly flume
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you can meld ix's instead if you care about pentas

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its only 6 stat loss per slot, not the end of the world

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idk if you're even pushing hard enough that you have to worry about that though

clear plume
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if you arent w1ing just sell it and take the free money

jolly flume
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like maybe do your 12 overmeld but unless you're actually trying to grind out later floors in pf w1

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just dont bother with 11

green vector
zealous meteor
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i'm absolutely not doing later floors week 1 but i do want to at least try to clear floor 1 week 1

jolly flume
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the biggest dps loss sits between the chair and the screen

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but most people dont realize that

green vector
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hahahaha

clear plume
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floor 1 doesnt even take crafted gear youre fine

zealous meteor
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i mostly just don't wanna be yelled at for having bad melds lmao

green vector
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real

jolly flume
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yeah min ilvl for first floor is crafted -10 lol

zealous meteor
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i know that no amount of melds is gonna make me better at the game

clear plume
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yeah dont overmeld for that goal, itll make you look worse if you do

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overmelds on a casual player is a red flag type beat

jolly flume
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maybe they just have a materia sugar daddy

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(need)

zealous meteor
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also for crafting gear when patch drops: do i want to max my scrips too? if so, crafting or gathering, and purple or just orange?

clear plume
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my crafter handles my melds for me

jolly flume
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idk shit about crafting that's a q for someone else 105_ICANT

trim frost
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q for my cousin honestly

dull drum
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pt goated

jolly flume
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what a neat name

zealous meteor
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i meant if there's crafting materials i need that are bought with scrips

dull drum
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pt sure the new foods use orange scrip mats

loud nymph
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yeah they will

zealous meteor
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cool

loud nymph
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don't think there's new master recipe books

jolly flume
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that'll do I suppose

loud nymph
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so purple scrips is whatever

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but definitely get orange

azure crow
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Is there a place to find people on your server to play with for faster queues instead of party finder ?

wicked delta
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No

loud nymph
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only for specific niche things like MiNE

wicked delta
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Yeah discord servers only exist for specific content

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Like savage

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MiNE

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Ultimates

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But faster queues in general? No

zealous meteor
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yeah at most you might find a discord for your server as a whole which might have people who'll queue with you

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but nothing where that's the main focus

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mmm scrip

half holly
zealous meteor
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theyre MINE

jolly flume
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scrips (minimum item level no echo)

dapper zealot
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supposedly the new set uses levinsilk and rakaznar based on previous expacs so grab some of those

craggy marsh
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grabbing 999 of each and also getting 999 of each aethersand got it

torn kindle
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Or just gather it when patch goes up and you can see the recipes if they actually need them

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You’ll be waiting on legendary node spawns for new materials anyways

random needle
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I should probably be stocking up on scrips as well gah

I still wanna at least get the cosmic tools ready maybe

vast jacinth
zealous meteor
jolly flume
tall field
vast jacinth
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You just need to earn your gil

jolly flume
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if people didn't merc c41s I would legit have 0 gil rn

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I had like 3mil before I started pfing again last month

dapper zealot
dapper zealot
verbal frost
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my clear was a merc I have no shame

inner shadow
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How to get to cosmic exploration when I already unlocked it?
Thought it's from Old Sharlayan

pale blade
proper cave
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Mare, actually. Take the truck in Bestways Burrows

pale blade
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and yeah there’s a Loporrit NPC by the aetheryte next to a truck

inner shadow
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Too cool for the moon

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Thanks šŸ™‚

undone tide
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OOH IT FEELS SO GOOD TO BE HERE AGAIN

lyric summit
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drivingway lost his job

proper cave
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Oh rip lol

verbal frost
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Will FRU BiS change next patch?

lyric summit
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don't think so, just new food and pots

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meso terminal is already bis ilvl right?

alpine plover
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ya

lyric summit
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maybe if relic gets third stat but I doubt it

thin fox
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btw what will the normal raid ilvl be

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not the gear ilvl but the ilvl to actually do the normal raid

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trying to calculate if nonraiding gf will be able to do the normal raids lol

robust shoal
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should be 745

thin fox
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ermm

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that might be a problem then

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wait shouldn't it just be 740 flat

jolly flume
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just snag tome stuff when the patch hits no?

thin fox
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730-740

jolly flume
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current 750 will be uncapped tomes

thin fox
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because the last crafted set before this current one was 710 and m5-8n is 700-710

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so this should be 730/735/740/740 for 9/10/11/12

tall field
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I am wondering will limit cut come back in savage

robust shoal
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nm is all same ilvl

tall field
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It made some return in arkveld

thin fox
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oh wait I was reading the wrong thing

robust shoal
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cw nm is 715 and it's +30 per tier

tall field
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Also cats why is drk dooming back againdespairge

thin fox
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ok 745 erm this might be a problem

robust shoal
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I don't see any drk dooming

thin fox
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always has

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play gnb

jolly flume
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but gnb sucks too

tall field
thin fox
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yeah but its a patriotic job

tall field
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mb

robust shoal
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yeah I don't rly follow and xiv content creators

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people are just deranged about drk so even when it's op people doom

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or just complain about the rotation

undone tide
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i hate tbn .

thin fox
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when I was progging m4s with villy I would kitchen sink the initial autos on warrior so that his TBN wouldn't go off in the opener

tall field
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Holy sheltron spoiled us

robust shoal
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I mostly haven't bothered with prepull tbn in arcadion

amber fable
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tbn just need to make dark arts proc always

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easy fix

undone tide
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at that point just decouple tbn from

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mp

amber fable
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knowing se it might do that eventaully

fierce matrix
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But thats why its fun

verbal frost
verbal frost
dull drum
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was helping a friend speedrun msq and the zelenia trial was

unreal pond
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That's a fun one

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From your reaction it didn't go well lol

teal sandal
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Only time I’ve done it was blind and it was a massive difficulty jump for me

verbal frost
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that one is hard in duty finder

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it's pretty funny

teal sandal
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Oh hm, is there any other savages from arcadion that are good for people just getting into them? I talked a lot about my poor performance in m2s but wanna keep pushing myself to get better and bite the bullet on endgame stuff before m9-12s drop

lyric summit
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they go up in difficulty in each tier, so m1s, m5s are the baby ones

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tho m1s is kinda sleepo

teal sandal
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I dont think I’ll get to the point between now and Jan where I can week 1 m9-12s but I still wanna try the deep end to understand the skill gap if that makes sense

lyric summit
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well yeah it takes time to get good

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but you have time cause the tier will be populated for months

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don't need to w1 your first tier

daring pine
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@kind elm @loud nymph holy shit

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it's fucking alexander vs bahamut

zealous meteor
daring pine
zealous meteor
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ff9 has alexander huh. damn i need to play it

daring pine
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yeah ff9 is the one that has alexandria in it

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alexandria castle turns into alexander because of summoning shenanigans

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and then it beats the shit out of bahamut

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gets nuked after

lyric summit
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šŸ¤ bahamut

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he looks like the hunt mount

dull drum
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i might get a 3 day ban.

unreal pond
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Woah

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What did you DO

dull drum
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flame

unreal pond
dull drum
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think i called the bard a troglodyte

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which is wrong because the troglodyte plays better

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had to tank lb to save the team

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so cursed

unreal pond
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lol happens

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Some are just yk left feet

alpine plover
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banned for tank lb-ing

unreal pond
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lol

amber fable
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Probably said some things

loud nymph
daring pine
wicked delta
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šŸ’€

loud swift
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it'll be awesome

true beacon
jagged aspen
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uh, the black wings from vouchers are not a mount, right?

valid solar
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nope

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fashion accessory

torn kindle
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The only wing mounts are the ones from DT Extremes

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The rest are fashion accessories and the ones attached to the Demon/Angel/Azeyma chest pieces

low hearth
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yoooo

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is sandoria still weekly locked or nah

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like the gear

dapper zealot
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It is

torn kindle
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Still locked, but 7.4 next week will unlock the gear and coin drops

low hearth
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damn

jagged aspen
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odd that they dont unlock it along with savage

jolly flume
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since when has se ever done gearing in a logical fashion

remote gate
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never because fuck you we dont like powercreep

zealous meteor
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honestly alliance raids should drop higher ilvl gear
you have to wait an entire patch to get... non-augmented tome equivalents

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which you can easily get by augmenting the crafted gear

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and then the unaugmented gear is STILL weekly locked

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if they desperately wanna keep tome/savage supremacy they can make it [savage raid gear] - 5 ilvl
but i really don't think giving another source of (currently) 760 gear is bad

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either that or don't make it weekly locked to begin with kekdoge

loud nymph
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I do genuinely wonder what the purpose of alliance raid gear is

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if it's catch up, why is it weekly limited

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if it's supposed to be used, why is it the same ilvl and introduced in the same patch as augmented crafted

jagged aspen
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are there many mechs in the game that require kb immunity?

random needle
loud nymph
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I'd say most mechanics are usually designed to be doable without KBI

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but the strategies that pf adopts to solve them usually do require it

jagged aspen
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ye sanctity is why i asked. is it the only one?

random needle
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I don't have the clip saved, but it did recently get shown to be doable without KBI

jagged aspen
#

on outer side? o_o

#

maybe you can dash in the moment puddles go away

#

ive seen nin just casually teleport inside halfway through the mech

random needle
#

I forget what the pattern was exactly, but the ice puddles were placed in a way that the preys could go from the outer ring to the inside

#

And then everyone rides the knockback to their towers

jagged aspen
#

hmm. do the fire puddles form at the same time as ice?

random needle
#

Yeah, the fire and ice puddles drop simultaneously, the fires are always on intercards

jagged aspen
#

would be neat if you just stack them on top

random needle
#

I don't think you can put the ice right on top of the fire though, you'd be hit by the fire immediately and die shortly after

#

Followed by the rest of the party for failing towers

jolly flume
#

you drop two ices on two cardinals and leave the other two cardinals open

#

after soaking outer towers everyone goes in and the meteors path towards the middle instead of straight n/s

jagged aspen
#

but with fire abit earlier ig

random needle
jagged aspen
#

yea if meteors can loop around and go middle

jolly flume
#

yes because your ending position is not constrained by tower position

jagged aspen
#

that wouldve solved all the issues

jolly flume
#

you have at most the equivalent of semi cursed in the current strat

jagged aspen
#

not that its too hard to do cursed but still

timber stratus
#

doing cursed with ninja was fun

jolly flume
#

hit the backwards drop with shukuchi

jagged aspen
#

dont forget expedience

timber stratus
#

we had a cringe sage unfortunately

jagged aspen
#

i dont think movespeed matters much if you just stop for a split second after every drop?

jagged aspen
random needle
timber stratus
#

we had sage and w*m

timber stratus
jolly flume
#

despairge comp

random needle
#

I got cursed pattern for the first time while trying to do my c41

#

It was horrifically demoralizing :3

timber stratus
#

classic

jagged aspen
#

i had like 3 in one lockout somehow

#

but its p2 who cares

#

so uh, why does living liquid have so little hp? does he heal or smth?

random needle
#

In TEA? It feels like the phase lasted about as long as any other ult p1 I've done

And maybe it's so you can adjust the HP difference between LL and the hand better for Hand of Pain

versed kayak
#

but he's also powercrept to fuck so

random needle
#

And yeah, that too

#

If you're playing clean, basically none of the ults except maybe TOP have real DPS checks rn

jagged aspen
versed kayak
#

ye, goes from this

#

to this

jagged aspen
#

ye i just didnt register that bit

jagged aspen
#

kinda hard to compare since top doesnt let ppl die on last phase tho

random needle
#

Hence why I qualified with "maybe", I haven't looked at the numbers or seen a lot of vods in its current form, so I mainly go off what experienced people like Chiyo tell me

jolly flume
#

TOP's check wasn't even real by the end of endwalker so I don't see how it'd be real now

#

I don't think I ever enraged it a single time in like 45 ish kills despite the white mages' best efforts to do like 3k dps

#

part of that is because yeah, you can't really die in p6 but

versed kayak
#

nerf gear powercreep when

random needle
#

Unreal Ultimates when

jolly flume
#

I think gearcreep is okay to an extent (and that extent is the dungeon gear and consumables from the dungeon gear patch) but it gets kinda ridiculous because it gets even more gapped after that

#

the first time I did dsr in dawntrail and we killed thordan at the wall after UE I was like lol what

random needle
#

I think on my clear pull, we killed him before he could even say "Y-you survived my divine reckoning? Impossible!"

jolly flume
#

his corpse was talking

#

it makes me a little sad to watch these fights get shit on so hard now honestly

jagged aspen
#

depends on what the others are doing too ofc

jagged aspen
#

add nin for good measure

jolly flume
#

I've done that with so many other comps

#

not THAT fast but like

#

a gcd slower

jagged aspen
#

well, anything 2 caster is broken ig

jolly flume
#

that one was kind of an anomaly I think we just crit out the ass

jagged aspen
#

but with pct nin its pretty normal for him to die before he starts moving

jolly flume
#

forget the nin

#

any pct comp can do that

#

jobs so broken even post nerf

#

p5 kts too fuck me

#

where is my raid buff

jagged aspen
#

idk nin tends to be almost on par with pct until the last bit, depending on crits

jolly flume
#

its basically at the point where if people have fingers you will never see the second heel

jagged aspen
#

the one after doth? dont think you ever see it without deaths

jolly flume
#

I miss letting drks die to living dead on that

#

šŸ„€

jagged aspen
#

btw a question for you. how long does clearing new savage tier in pf usually take

jolly flume
#

asking the wrong person honestly, I have never pfed savage on content

#

but judging by my friends if you're going hard 2 weeks is easily possible

#

1 if you never go outside

jagged aspen
#

but you probably see the state of pf in general

#

like, when clear parties start to pop up

jolly flume
#

I mean, week 1 pf clears do exist

#

but by week 2 they become like semi-common

jagged aspen
#

still trying to find a static but its pretty hard at this point lol

#

and if its doable in pf then why bother

jolly flume
#

yeah it's cooked a month before release

jagged aspen
#

but then id probably want to cover multiple roles

jolly flume
#

just play healer if you don't want to hate yourself

#

or well

#

hate everyone else

jagged aspen
#

well, more roles = easier to fit in pf

jolly flume
#

that's the case but also theres already not that many healers around and even less are actually good at it

#

me and noble talked about this but we feel like a healer is literally more likely to be a massive liability to dps (as in being like 3k below what's reasonable) than a dps is despite the dps doing twice as much damage

#

on top of being shit at healing

#

😭

#

idk that's just my two cents though

terse zodiac
#

You cant really do multiple roles in week 1 pf still, i mean its possible but youre sacrificing multiple pieces of gear

jagged aspen
#

a couple tome pieces sure, but thats not too bad especially on non dps?

terse zodiac
#

And whatever drops you get from the raids, means lower health too. No matter what role it should turn a .2% enrage to a clear

rapid whale
#

they did say it'd be tuned around 4 weeks tome gear

jagged aspen
#

you could get no drops too though

#

or gear up one role on main another on alt, ez

terse zodiac
#

Using alt sure if you got the time

jolly flume
#

eh you can almost certainly at least do the first two floors in full crafted

#

by the time you're pushing third and fourth floor early you'll be playing with the same 15 people on repeat anyways

terse zodiac
#

First two yes but if aim is to clear eh

jolly flume
#

so no need to be flexing around all the time

#

if you can't clear first and second floor in crafted

#

you have no chance of ever touching 4 week 1 anyways

robust shoal
#

I might try to pf a clear after my static finishes but that's gonna depend a lot on how long we take

#

It seems like a fun thing to do though

#

Also a wk1 merc would probably cover the cost of my gear

#

Kinda annoying how I'm gonna be stuck with all crafted on vpr if I keep it open as a flex though, prolly won't even be able to join pfs on it

jolly flume
#

if we ever cleared fast enough to have a break of a day or two and still go back into pf I might do it but on our schedules it's almost 100% a weekend clear so I'd just be fried

jagged aspen
#

how much do ppl even pay for merc for it to be worthwhile

terse zodiac
#

3/4 last tiers were easy to get to fight 4 in pf

jolly flume
#

I did a wk1 m4 for 25m

jagged aspen
#

for lockout or clear?

jolly flume
#

anychest clear

jagged aspen
#

ig if you enjoy the fight its just free money

jolly flume
#

if they can clear too

jagged aspen
#

is it like, static looking for fill, or someone making a merc party and paying everyone 25m

jolly flume
#

wicked thunder was just piss easy I'm not sure how much I'd want to join one for an actual 4th floor unless it was like fuck you amounts of gil

#

the latter

jagged aspen
#

i guess its an option if im desperate lol

jolly flume
#

if we clear saturday or early sunday I might do monday pf, we'll see

#

hopefully just wanna stay under 30 prog hours

rapid whale
#

do strats solidify that quickly

#

ig by sun/mon they would

jagged aspen
#

some statics use weird strats months in

terse zodiac
#

With new raidplanner could solidify faster or slower hard to say

#

But yeah its normally fast for pf to settle on 1 or 2 competing

undone tide
#

man

#

top kts are

#

actually so ass

rapid whale
#

tld u

#

i think the lowest we took p4 was like 4% one time

undone tide
#

i had to hold my conf combo into p4

rapid whale
#

yea

undone tide
#

and then that cascaded into

#

me holding conf into p5

rapid whale
#

ive gone into p4's with hammer stacks still cuz bitch dies so fast

undone tide
#

i think i’m just going to go

#

fuck raid buffs

rapid whale
#

i jst front load everything

undone tide
#

and instant burst every phase

rapid whale
#

yea more or less

undone tide
#

like i’ll literally open p3 with fof imperator

#

even though it will clip

#

i’m going to skip 1 mins at end of p2

rapid whale
#

ya i buff before boss is targetable

#

i lose a comet at 2.48s but fuck it i use it for movement later

undone tide
#

how does starry work on monitors

rapid whale
#

you want slow p2 anyway as pld

#

thats why i have to buff before boss is targetable

undone tide
#

well here’s the thing

rapid whale
#

otherwise i cant get all 5 starry out

undone tide
#

if i hold my 1 mins

#

we get slow p2

rapid whale
#

yea

undone tide
#

if i use 1 mins

#

we get fast p2

#

so i don’t win

jagged aspen
rapid whale
#

someone got rly mad about our healers getting r1 combined dmg cuz 'omg look at these losers holding for a healer parse' the reality was we were healing for pld invuln KEKW

rapid whale
#

juist lb3

#

point being top dps checks r no longer real

#

gone r the days of YOU MSUT POT P1 OR WE WIPE EVERY TIME

jagged aspen
#

ig depends on jobs alot though

undone tide
#

this is what i got last night

#

but it’s not enough

rapid whale
#

nice

#

is it ever enough for u

undone tide
#

no

rapid whale
#

im p sure if u hit rank 1 you'd still want more

jagged aspen
#

if you dont have 1mins your p4 is ass

undone tide
#

i don’t want to figure out what happens if i hit rank 1

jagged aspen
#

but on the other hand 1min jobs can get really screwed by killtimes

jagged aspen
robust shoal
robust shoal
#

I still remember I missed potency in the post-twilight fof window in m4s for no reason

#

and threw 5 unmends on drk

#

and failed to click off tank lb the second time in my top r1

#

though I actually played pretty well otherwise imo

#

(the second death is a pretty minor gain at least)

rapid whale
#

Ohh to regain mana?

robust shoal
#

yea

jagged aspen
#

you dont die with tank lb and no dynamis?

robust shoal
#

nope

#

gotta click off the tank lb too

jagged aspen
#

crazy

robust shoal
#

or make a macro for it which I didn't have at the time

jagged aspen
#

how much is dynamis anyway

robust shoal
#

depends on the mechanic iirc

#

but it's 40~60%

jagged aspen
#

oh clicking off buffs by hand yikes

clear plume
#

You can make a statusoff macro

robust shoal
#

basically any instance of dmg without dynamis will kill you except magic number with tank lb on it

jagged aspen
#

ye i keep forgetting to make it in my second dnc and its scary to click on buffs

robust shoal
#

autos might be survivable but idk if anyone in the history of the world has managed to take a top auto with no dynamis

jagged aspen
#

what was the thing with autos killing tanks bug

random needle
#

Autos killing nontanks? Or are you referring to something else

clear plume
#

Wasn’t really a bug, p3 would just auto right as soon as boss is targetable so if somebody hits him before a tank they take that auto

jagged aspen
#

i thought it was smth on p6

robust shoal
#

p5

#

after sigma the magic vuln from the last hw bounce would be active when the first boss auto snapshot

#

I lost two pulls to that during prog, one to the auto itself and one to another player not realizing I can't take second bounce and trying to chad me out of the first bounce spot lol

undone tide
#

i think my req came up like 3 gcds before phase died

#

i had royal prepped

#

if i don’t royal before transition

jagged aspen
#

did it die at start of monitors then

undone tide
#

i lose combo

jagged aspen
#

or did you not send on p3 start

clear plume
#

I accidentally solved that just off of the order I marked ig, bc I defaulted to tanks get hands and first pass to long if they didn’t have a HW

#

And even if both tanks didn’t have one it woulda been t1 on short

undone tide
robust shoal
#

oh, also running away from the boss could let you live

#

the timing on it was mega close, like the debuff would fall off on the same tick the auto snapshot

rapid whale
undone tide
#

yknow

#

i wonder if anyone still runs double prange comp

jagged aspen
#

yama was yday, they were enraging p4

undone tide
#

i’m debating whether or not to make this my main tank glam

#

its kinda goated?

jagged aspen
#

shield is off no?

undone tide
#

no

#

its monochrome

#

anything works

jagged aspen
#

why yellow

undone tide
#

because its my favorite shield

#

simply

unreal pond
#

It's also an achievement for what you did to get it

rapid whale
#

it is my duty to be the cringe ultimate weapon + legend title user

unreal pond
#

lol

rapid whale
#

i'm a millenial i have no shame

jagged aspen
#

dont forget to use every ult decoration in your plate

unreal pond
#

Make it look extra fancy

random needle
#

Ooh, I can update my plate to use DSR deco instead of UCoB

jagged aspen
#

all of them are fancy, but you need to combine them for maximum cringe

unreal pond
#

Aye

undone tide
dull drum
#

😭

undone tide
#

?

dull drum
#

surely theres better shields

undone tide
#

there are

#

but they aren’t my favorite

jagged aspen
#

i like uwu shield

jolly flume
#

the dsr model is best but the colors are forever piss ugly

#

fru one ain't bad

jagged aspen
#

fru is square i hate square shields

jolly flume
#

it's a rectangle

#

unless that's what you meant but I think an actually square shield would look pretty dumb lol

#

it kinda reminds me of the shiva mirrors

whole estuary
#

square shields are cute

#

they remind me of maplestory

#

if they haven't fixed their inflation problem, pan lids are probably over 50M now

jagged aspen
#

than a door

#

why do ppl do ACBD instead of ABCD?

jolly flume
#

because FF players aren't educated enough to know the greek alphabet

#

smile

#

also bpog sounds funny

#

bee pog

jagged aspen
#

if they make 1234 with these colors will ppl still do bpog?

jolly flume
#

probably not if it's explicitly the numbers

jagged aspen
#

like, x square circle triangle is easier to think of than the stupid colors

jolly flume
#

jp does 1234 in terms of the number of strokes it takes to draw each shape

#

but we of course are not smart enough for that

#

hehe bee pog

rapid whale
#

im trying to be pog

jagged aspen
#

its not even orange in top

jolly flume
#

it is if you close your eyes

jagged aspen
#

if i close my eyes i run into the laser

rapid whale
jolly flume
jagged aspen
#

how come p8s isnt ACB then

jolly flume
#

people learned to read between 5.3 and 6.2

#

or 5.1

#

or maybe it was sheer dumb luck

#

smile

craggy marsh
#

I hate the winter blues chat sadge

rapid whale
#

something something drink water take a walk and other millenial sayings

random needle
#

I kinda get hit with seasonal depression too with it being so bloody cold

craggy marsh
rapid whale
#

wahoo fishies

craggy marsh
#

fishies, shorks, and pengus =w=

rapid whale
#

i hope there are cool sharks

craggy marsh
#

gonna pet da stingrays

random needle
#

I should give myself some manner of seasonal name

zealous meteor
#

sapphire, seeker of jolly

rapid whale
#

snowphire, seeker of jolly

#

damn it

#

eju beat me to it

zealous meteor
#

i'm too fast

rapid whale
#

sanic

undone tide
#

dsr glow is peak

#

i love orange

#

haters go to hell

craggy marsh
#

receive of me gifts and be jolly!

rapid whale
#

i like the glow but the base model on a lot of dsr weapons kinda stinky

random needle
vapid path
#

When I saw it went in that order I was like "why?"

jagged aspen
#

actually it comes up a few times if you search alphabet in lpdu or naur discords

vapid path
#

I've never actually searched it up time to do that

fierce matrix
#

Its because colors

#

Why do it based on Y being C

#

(Yes ik what it actually is, just saying it in layman's terms)

jagged aspen
#

I sure hope laymen know what these letters mean šŸ˜„

fierce matrix
#

I would say prob 90% if not more of the player base do not know what that means

jagged aspen
#

But hey that's better than doing it ABDY because that's alphabetical order. Like what even

fierce matrix
#

General education does not teach you this

#

Same with Ę”

jagged aspen
#

Doesn't school math use greek letters

#

how do you label triangle angles

fierce matrix
#

You only use theta and thats really it

sly basin
#

šŸ¤“ šŸ–• triangle angles add up to 180

fierce matrix
#

Delta is used as its capital form

sly basin
#

thats what i remmeber

fierce matrix
#

Not its lowercase

jagged aspen
#

Hmm maybe culture diff, we had alpha beta gamma for the angles

fierce matrix
#

So ʔis not used

jagged aspen
#

delta is used for derivatives ig

fierce matrix
#

Yeah but even then

#

Never lowecase

#

Only capital

#

Delta was used only really in physics

#

And then it was capital, just like the rest.

jagged aspen
#

Ok yea that's abit outside of school math

fierce matrix
#

Yeah lol

#

So a majority of players are not going to have these circumstances to know it and are you gonna

  1. Teach them what this letter is and have them learn muscle memory on it

Or

  1. Look at colors you learned in preschool
teal sandal
#

(hope this is a good channel to ask) question about etiquette in 14, how frowned upon is it to purposefully facetank something as WAR and self heal/mit through it when its a given you'll win the fight? I'm basically talking the beginning part of Endsinger normal phase 2 I stood in the cluster of meteors to see if I could heal/mit through the end, felt funny in the moment being vuln 7 but now I worry about what the other party members thought when they saw that 3sGudaEhehe

versed kayak
#

time to see what all the pf despair was about

jolly flume
teal sandal
#

Oki thats good, I got 2 commends so I figure I'm fine but still wanted to make sure in case I ever get that trial in rou again dies

wicked delta
#

In normal content as long as you don’t die then its like

teal sandal
#

Thank ya ehe

wicked delta
#

Whatever

lapis token
#

Purposefully getting vulns in normals so tbn actually breaks pensive_wobble

jolly flume
#

even if you do die

#

nobody cares

#

especially if it's a funny death

#

funny deaths are good

timber stratus
#

Ermge i saw one cancelled cast im writing a google doc about u

wicked delta
#

Yeah it really doesn’t matter at all

#

I saw two people panicking trying to get away from each other and they somehow took out a third person

#

Literal traffic accident

versed kayak
random needle
#

Funny deaths are fine usually yeah

teal sandal
#

Actually, how much increased damage does each vuln stack give and is it multiplicative or additive?

#

I should have checked that by now ah_sit

random needle
#

I think the vulns have different values in different fights, but in normal mode fights especially it's not usually worth losing sleep over if you're a tank

#

As long as you're not stacking like 10+ or something

teal sandal
#

Nodnod

wicked delta
#

Ive had 8 vuln stacks on tank when content was fresh and was completely fine

#

It really depends idk

zealous meteor
teal sandal
random needle
#

Note that, while a lot of normal content gives vuln stacks for failing mechanics, high end stuff often gives damage down instead, which doesn't sound as bad until you die to enrage

random needle
#

(Ultimate)

teal sandal
#

OH I was about to say it looks like alexander but nothing I've seen from it

#

So that adds up

random needle
#

That's Cruise Chaser doing Limit Cut, about 2 or 3 minutes into the fight

teal sandal
#

Ahh

teal sandal
#

Noted for 5 years from now when I try tea

random needle
#

Limit Cut is a type of mechanic you'll hear referred to a lot, since there's a lot of things that are sorta like it, but there's not really a single solid definition on what a limit cut is

#

It's easiest if I show the alignment charts

sick dirge
#

trickshot is a limit cut?

zealous meteor
#

limit cut is literally anything that people call limit cut. usually mechanics where you get assigned a number and the boss attacks you in order. even if the actual mechanic is nothing like limit cut

random needle
jolly flume
#

limit cut isn't even the actual name of the original mechanic

random needle
#

I don't think anyone would seriously call Infinite Reach in Castrum Meridianum a limit cut

random needle
versed kayak
#

it does

#

literally same limit cut as TEA too minus the extra bits and bobs from the arena

jolly flume
#

he just happened to cast limit cut

zealous meteor
#

second boss of holminster has a limit cut

jolly flume
#

before doing the actual mechanics

#

alpha sword and super blassty charge šŸ”„

random needle
#

It'd be like calling [insert mechanic from e8s here] Mirror, Mirror because boss used it beforehand, when every other mechanic in the fight uses mirrors

zealous meteor
#

anyway limit cut is when the boss does a thing

clear plume
random needle
#

Whatever the case, it's the name we always use now

clear plume
#

same reason we have para 3 in p12s

random needle
#

Like how circles with >> inside are always Exaflares

clear plume
#

paradeima only spawns the adds

jolly flume
#

anything that moves is now an exaflare

clear plume
#

but we all call the entire mechanic that

random needle
#

The dragon heads in e8s and FRU are exaflares

zealous meteor
#

....i kinda wanna see a limit cut in an AR

random needle
#

You do not. :3

zealous meteor
#

imagine getting 24 dots above your head

zealous meteor
#

i want to suffer

#

i hate myself, this is why i play healer

jolly flume
#

healing is for hating others

random needle
#

It's gonna be in Chaotic Diabolos Hollow, please look forward to it

versed kayak
#

You see, theres this fight called Quantum :D

random needle
#

... Though let's be real, anything would make that fight more interesting than just a full 2 minutes of striking dummy in the middle with an extra minute of downtime before and after

zealous meteor
jolly flume
#

looks like an exaflare to me

versed kayak
#

the other one :D

jolly flume
#

oh I kinda forgot that existed ngl

boreal pumice
#

good lil ress bitch

versed kayak
jolly flume
#

they made my exas stationary

#

cant have shit in detroit

undone tide
#

man who am i gonna do pilgrims with

#

shit sucks

jolly flume
#

biscuit

undone tide
#

of course

verbal frost
#

Fun fight

loud nymph
dull drum
undone tide
#

prepping for what

#

???

dull drum
#

gear?

#

crafting?

undone tide
#

my guy

dull drum
#

did you cap out your helios

#

is mathematics capped

trim frost
#

get to the moon lil bro

undone tide
#

we have

#

literally like

#

so much time to prep

#

we are going to have half of our tome gear

dull drum
#

we got 5 days lil bro till patch

undone tide
#

by the time savage happens

#

i don’t CARE

trim frost
#

day one money

undone tide
#

i’m working with 5 mil

dull drum
#

bro wants to waste his time week 1 Sadge

trim frost
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sell tome mats make unlimited profit

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have you tried not being poor

undone tide
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yes

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didn’t work

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undone tide
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which is why i’m leveling mah goddamn crafters

dull drum
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if you do custom deliveries you make free gil selling masons abrasives

undone tide
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how you get those

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if you do cosmic

trim frost
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you also do that from yok huy

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purple scrips

trim frost
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three free mason’s everyday

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that’s like 50k right there

undone tide
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well i have a shit load of scrips because i’m leveling with collectables

dull drum
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grinding cosmic is nice because the lunar creds can fund condensed and abrasives too

undone tide
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maybe i hop on some hunt trains

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gear does not have a use for a month unless you are parsing the extreme

dull drum
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its not about use its about time lil bro

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if you prep now you dont have to do hunt train week 1

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😔

undone tide
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what is it about ffxiv that turns everyone into a faux crypto bro on patch day

dull drum
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you still have to get some tomes but yeah

sinful brook
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Gotta hunt train week 1 because I won't have enough msq to have my cousin play

trim frost
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i just

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sell materia n shit

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i don’t really do much else

dull drum
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im not even pushing a crypto gil agenda im just saying rn games dead as shit you might as well do some basic prep

undone tide
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there’s totems to be gotten

sinful brook
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It doesn't hurt to do some if you're bored

undone tide
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titles to be achieved

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fights to be killed

sinful brook
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You're waiting in pf anyways

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Or between pfs

dull drum
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i mean thats really the only useful thing you can buy with purple scrips atm

jagged aspen
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huh?

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what about materia

dull drum
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isnt masons 20k

jagged aspen
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25-30k for masons, or 2x 15-20k for materia

dull drum
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the materias are dropping in price alr

trim frost
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oh is it

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my server alr hit 11-12k avg

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iirc

jagged aspen
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they spiked pretty hard before patch

trim frost
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tbh i haven’t actually been selling much mason’s lately because i forgot

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but last i checked it was 15 on mine

jagged aspen
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craftsmans command is almost 20k on na, abit lower on eu

dull drum
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masons 33k on my world cheapest is 25k on ada

dim pollen
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You know what would be cool?

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Multiplayer emotes

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wdym

dim pollen
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Like if two players use a certain emote in a close proximity the animation changes

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Like they start playing aports

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Sports

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Dance the waltz

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Arm wrestle

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Etc

jagged aspen
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damn wtf it went up

jagged aspen
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it was over 20

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i think highest i sold for like 22

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in the last week

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hop on the materia wagon then shit

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thats like uh

jagged aspen
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yea its been pretty crazy lately

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yeah look at that thats free money @undone tide

jagged aspen
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i sold like 10 thousand probably

thin fox
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what does melee uptime refer to in necron strats

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