endgame-lounge

[loud nymph]

I just pick a few jobs I like and then stick with NIN

[rain geode]

I was agonizing for awhile and part of me even still has doubts but I think Ive decided on SCH

[trim frost]

you have like

three weeks

to decide

[tired egret]

tbh atm I just main Ninja only because I play rogue jobs in other games

[trim frost]

four weeks

[tired egret]

but I don't like the visuals

[rain geode]

Big thing for me if I havnt done a ton of high end so I want to really get comfortable on at least one job before the tier

[trim frost]

i dont like how overly complex ninja is just to do less damage than viper lmao

i exaggerate but like

idk

[tired egret]

isn't it stronger singletarget?

[trim frost]

it feels kinda bad

[tired egret]

or idfk, it's just a 1% difference ig

[loud nymph]

it's more fun though vpr puts me to sleep

[rain geode]

and now SCH has probably passed WAR for job Im the most experienced on so Im just gonna stick with it for this tier

[tired egret]

I only main Ninja, but for the other jobs... I'd just play WAR or PLD

[trim frost]

nin is also like

oh half my kit doesn't proc bloodbath okay

dies of cringe

[loud nymph]

true

[tired egret]

oh ye

[loud nymph]

sqex please fix bloodbath

make it useful for me 🙁

[amber fable]

Simply gear a role

[tired egret]

gotta change the property of Mudras

lmfao

[loud nymph]

literally just make bloodbath proc off all damage

[amber fable]

So you dont have to decide what to play

[loud nymph]

instead of just physical damage

[amber fable]

Nin has shades atleast

[rain geode]

you still have to decide a role then lol

[trim frost]

for me i think it's still a toss-up between going tank again or trying drg

[amber fable]

I usually do dps for prog cuz dps has no mechs

[tired egret]

I only played Dragoon for a bit in terms of hard content

[amber fable]

Then reprog as tank

So brain is used more

[tired egret]

in fact, my T6S clear had to be done with Dragoon, because one of my static members wanted to run Ninja

[trim frost]

i'll at least do normals on tank and if there looks to be any cool tankbusters maybe i'll just stick to tank

[dull drum]

pt sure avx just means you dont have to worry about job choice if you can figure out what role to play because the gear flexes between anyway besides weapon

like in liters case sch

[tired egret]

I became tank because I wanted to grind ARR EX Trials via Duty Finder

[dull drum]

can transition to whm ast sge if needed

[tired egret]

made shit easier for me

fast queues, and less fuck ups

[trim frost]

like

[rain geode]

Im not sure what Im gonna do normals as I usually like to do them as my "headcanon" WoL

[trim frost]

. synced ?

[tired egret]

yes

synced

it worked though

got all horses

[trim frost]

you must be institutionalized

[dull drum]

cant wait to do normal mode raids with subhumans again

last time i did this in anabaseios

p10n took 1 hour on release

[amber fable]

Week 1 40 min normal raid prog

Les go

[loud nymph]

fuck yeahhhhhhhhh

[trim frost]

that was honey b for me

[amber fable]

M7 for me

[trim frost]

it was technically my second run because i hadn't gotten a token yet but holy fuck dude

[amber fable]

Was that

2x whm

[tired egret]

ay, it worked for me

[amber fable]

No shields

[tired egret]

got me horses, alot of other cool stuff

[amber fable]

Man it was pain

[tired egret]

and got better at tanking

[trim frost]

i'm just gonna call up gamers for the first run through

then i'll just try for end of week for tokens and stuff after the math is mathed

[wicked delta]

Thats wgat im gonna do

If I don’t feel it on tank ill just switch to melee

[wicked delta]

????

You’re joking

[loud nymph]

they are not

duty finder was very bad at p10n

[wicked delta]

????????

My fault for having hope for duty finder

[dull drum]

tbf

i did it on hour 1

so no one knew anything and harrowing hell wiped the pt i was in

[wicked delta]

[alpine plover]

[valid solar]

im glad I chose to queue as healer for M7/8(N) on launch because I think the average DF healer could not have kept up

[amber fable]

M8 was surprisingly smoother

Only m7 this tier gave trouble

Week 1 ofc

[loud nymph]

yeah we got stuck on quarry swamp in m7n for a while week 1 because people couldn't figure out what was blocking the gaze

My party had one dude who argued that all you need to do is look away for about 3 pulls

ignoring everyone who yelled at him that it isn't just a look away

[sick reef]

took my group about 30mins to figure out it wasnt the lights falling that petrified us 😭

[wicked delta]

M7N was horror

Me and bf did it within the first hour of release

3 wipes and they took for fucking ever

Lol

[remote gate]

impossible content for normal players

whats worse is an m8n jumpscare and everyone has like 740 gear only to get absolutely bodied by the boss

[wicked delta]

M8N is the first time I wiped to an enrage

Lmfao

*normal mode enrage

The mini add phase was just too hard

[sick reef]

to this day i still see ppl disrespect the m8n stack marker during ad phase

and then are surprised when a 5 man stack explodes

[remote gate]

unironically same here most ppl didnt take it seriously at all lmfao

[rapid whale]

I'm not looking forward to having to roulette again when patch drops

[daring pine]

m8n is still horrible in roulette

like, really really bad

[wicked delta]

M7 and M8 I see the most wipes to in roul

[daring pine]

i had a m8n roulette on eu the other day

it was so bad two people left and we had to refill

[loud nymph]

I've never had issues on m8n in roulette tbh

I must be lucky

[daring pine]

it’s like the absolute worst people in df get sucked into 8n

it’s just do

[wicked delta]

I almost crashed out due to one M8N run I had lmfao

[daring pine]

so ugh

[wicked delta]

Everyone in the party dead bc doing mechanics is too fucking hard

[daring pine]

and i only ever get two regen healers that are both fucking horrendous

[wicked delta]

Except for me and a mch

[loud nymph]

the only time I can remember wiping is one where the healers misplaced the stack marker during the add phase and both ate shit because they moved it out of the rest of the group

[wicked delta]

The mch was my bf

I raise a tank

So mch stops eating autos

This tank doesn’t

[daring pine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/239837267797999616/1323788911310405662/attachment-2.gif

[wicked delta]

Provoke

Despite being at full health

Mch dies to autos

Raidwide

[daring pine]

i just wanted an excuse to use this gif

[wicked delta]

Boss locks onto me

[daring pine]

silly ass cat

[wicked delta]

We get lb3 right at that moment

I also die to autos

??????

[daring pine]

moment

tobi i’ve been sniped in m8s adds more times than i’d like

[wicked delta]

Tank was just eating rocks or something

[daring pine]

ah yes, pack predation

oh no, one person is on the wrong side

3 people dead immediately

[wicked delta]

I was like “why the fuck didnt you provoke” and this fuckass samurai was like “erm you shouldve healer lb3’d lol”

HOW

THAT SHIT POPPED THE MOMENT I DIED

IM GONNA

[loud nymph]

fuckass samurais are the cause of 99% of duty finder fuckups

the other 1% is white mages

[daring pine]

this applies to savage too

if its prog it can be anyone but if it’s clear/reclears it’s always a samurai

[wicked delta]

Samurai players are my mortal enemies (sorry Noble ur cool)

[daring pine]

h2 nearly nuked me last night during twofold prog earlier when she stood next to me for stonefang

yes, stonefang

at the start of the fight

[wicked delta]

White mages are demons too but

[daring pine]

i have no fucking idea how that didn’t hit me

[loud nymph]

how is the twofold prog going

[daring pine]

oh we got to twofold

[wicked delta]

If you think you hate dps players, you don’t hate melees enough

[daring pine]

67% now

[versed kayak]

:(

[daring pine]

prayge

[astral steeple]

do you actually need provoke specifically to grab aggro? I don't really have experience with retaking aggro after dying but I faintly recall just whacking the boss a few times while stance is on was generally enough?

[loud nymph]

honestly everything after twofold is easy

you'll get there

[daring pine]

yeah

[random needle]

Melee players are the embodiment of biblical greed

[daring pine]

i just need to do it cleanly

[versed kayak]

depends on how long the fight has gone on, and how quick you need Aggro back

[wicked delta]

Mch was a giga juicer and this guy was at the bottom of the aggro list so he wasn’t getting aggro for shit

[daring pine]

it’s uhh cc after right?

if i remember correctly

[loud nymph]

yes

[wicked delta]

*bottom of dps list

Below healers yes

[daring pine]

do you just stay on one platform the whole time

and dodge accordingly

[loud nymph]

circuit is a joke you just need to be careful not to move early just use eyes

yes

[daring pine]

alright

[loud nymph]

after circuit you do repeated mechs then lament which is also easy

[daring pine]

i feel like some people will not pay attention to the lasers and get exploded

[wicked delta]

Sorry samurais have traumatized me I HATE them

[daring pine]

that’s the tethers and towers right

[loud nymph]

yeah

[daring pine]

yeah that one looks easy

[loud nymph]

then heros blow 2 which is a joke

[wicked delta]

When they pull it off im like wow you’re fucking awesome but half of them do not have the Skill

[loud nymph]

then uv4 which is easy but slightly tight on timing

then enrage

[daring pine]

alright i gotta go work but i’ll prog after i get home

[loud nymph]

if you get to first enrage platform at like 30%

[daring pine]

cc prog tonight

[loud nymph]

it's probably a clear

you have so long for the enrage plus a 2 minute window with pots

[versed kayak]

greeding meditate before TEA P3 timestop was funny, took my static a hundred pulls or something to stop calling out someone missing

[craggy marsh]

from my experience melee players hate taking responsibility for things

they take after their fathers

[wicked delta]

Shoutout to the dragoon who flamed me bc he died after taking avoidable damage

How about you stop standing in the bad like an ape

You wouldn’t die then

I distinctly remember typing out a long message cussing him out

Then I deleted it before I sent it

Sent “my bad” instead

[loud nymph]

honestly just don't acknowledge them

[versed kayak]

to be fair I always call myself out if I died to greed

[loud nymph]

rise above their petty bullshit

[alpine plover]

Simply buy gaslighting services and have a guy white knight you

[loud nymph]

[wicked delta]

Actually so true

Bruh there’s two ppl fighting on the street

[loud nymph]

ask them if they have played the award winning final fantasy xiv with an expanded free trial

[dapper zealot]

Join them

[wicked delta]

Hell the fuck no

They’re beating ass im not going near that 😟😟

[dapper zealot]

Assert dominance

[wicked delta]

I think the lady tried to steal something

[craggy marsh]

if you're cute enough i'll white knight for free lemme know when and where

[random needle]

UCoB and DSR have beaten so much greed out of me, I am a safety gamer

[wicked delta]

The more I played healer the more I realized these ppl arent worth my time

Im just not built to heal I think

Not bc the job is hard but I really cant stand being blamed for other people’s mistakes

Lol

[craggy marsh]

can we normalize blaming dps players for mistakes before tanks and healers?

[wicked delta]

We dont hate dps players enough

[craggy marsh]

I mean really, what does the dps actually do that's meaningful to the conversation?

[wicked delta]

Send in a feint

Maybe an addle if they’re so kind

Game changing

[craggy marsh]

From my experience they can't feint or addle for shit

bc they "forgot"

but they'll be sure to let you know if you missed a rep

[random needle]

Healing in my static makes me get so aggro and I don't like that

[wicked delta]

If I healed in a static id get kicked for toxicity ✌️😭

Im already toxic in vc when im not even playing the game

[random needle]

Playing DPS makes me be mean to myself, playing healer makes me be mean to others

[craggy marsh]

play tank

as a tank nothing can hurt you

[fallow latch]

For pugging savage, which job would be best? In terms of job demand and carry potential. SGE, WHM, or RDM. (Those are the jobs I played on a high level before)

[wicked delta]

Red mage prolly lol

[craggy marsh]

RDM is wanted

it doesn't do the damage

[wicked delta]

If not red mage then sage

[craggy marsh]

but it does help with rez

[wicked delta]

Guys im chilling with a pigeon

[craggy marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/pigeon-falling-matvey-gif-22559160

[alpine plover]

[wicked delta]

[rapid whale]

mb

[wicked delta]

????

I love pigeons bruh

[craggy marsh]

[pale blade]

If I healed in a static I would utter words I have never uttered before

None of them good I’m afraid

[dapper zealot]

HECK

[remote gate]

theyre either insanely cracked or pure dogshit and there's no in-between

[undone tide]

they were out of monster.

this shit is definitely not FDA approved tf you mean 300 mg caffeine

[boreal pumice]

Least it’s cheap

[undone tide]

its like 3.25

shit ain’t cheap

[loud nymph]

Jesus I can feel my heart jumping out of my chest already

300 mg caffeine wtf

[undone tide]

used to have 2 of these a day sometimes

when i worked back to back doubles

[wicked delta]

Are you trying to die bruh

[undone tide]

here for a short time not a good time

[wicked delta]

Fly high 🕊️

[dapper zealot]

Chug another one

[undone tide]

[loud nymph]

bruh

I had a girlfriend a while back who lived on those 5 hour energy shits when she was in grad school, she'd have one like every day

I had like, half of one, ONCE and I thought I was legit going to die

[wicked delta]

[undone tide]

my high school started class at 7 am

i’m a night owl

caffeine addiction is implied

[loud nymph]

I mean, fair

I am usually at work by like 7:45 am most days

so I get that

[jagged aspen]

whats the point of "visit another world server" in menu? it didnt ask me which server, just moved me to a random one, and tells me to wait before using it again?
compared to in-game option which has no such restrictions, seems kinda weird

[zealous meteor]

for if your home world is congested i think

[jagged aspen]

oh, thats useful ig

login queues arent the same for all worlds within a dc?

or i guess theres a separate queue or smth

[jagged aspen]

i used one for exam prep awhile ago and it wasnt too bad, but yea def not a good thing to use regularly lol

idk maybe if youre going super hardcore on studies or something, otherwise no way its worth it

[rapid whale]

tbf tolerance is a thing

so to someone who takes a 5hr energy every day vs no caffeine at all

[versed kayak]

supposedly it moved you to the lowest population server to balance it a bit

but idk, it's pretty useless lmao

[zealous meteor]

listening to a trail unending it's funny how my brain just inserts "to the memories of better days, i bid farewell" because i've done the dungeon too much

[rapid whale]

the power of brainrot

once you get to fru you too shall join in on the voice acting auditions

[wicked delta]

You’re Mitron!

[versed kayak]

something something feeble shield

[remote gate]

how the hell did she sleep ot even function

a cup of coffee jacks me up the entire day

[versed kayak]

I assume she barely slept, hence the need for that

[random needle]

Aaaaaahh!!

I am Loghrif, servant of Zodiark.

[wicked delta]

I shall restore the power of Darkness to this star.

[rapid whale]

AHHHHHHHH MY HEAD

[valid solar]

you can weather this, I know you can

[rapid whale]

mynamejeff

[valid solar]

no my name is jeff

[wicked delta]

[rapid whale]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3bf_0osukto

[jolly flume]

I see I've infected everyone

[wicked delta]

I know lines from a fight ive never stepped foot into

And its YOUR FAULT

[jolly flume]

Her awakening is incomplete...their memories weaken the link.

Such impediments to our resonance must be expunged!

[vast jacinth]

chiyo

NO

[wicked delta]

Come to me, Hraesvelgr!

[random needle]

I shall weave a new Dragonsong!

[zealous meteor]

COME, CHAMPION OF EORZEA!

wait no wrong fight

[wicked delta]

Get out this is about lesbian fusion

[jolly flume]

I told you it would make a great necklace.

Oh, it's beautiful! I think it'll really suit you.

Me? But I thought you should have it.

[random needle]

Light and Darkness, gather to me!

[jolly flume]

PAIN SHALL BE FLEETING, JOY EVERLASTING

[random needle]

As I wish it, so shall the river of time flow!

[rapid whale]

AAAAAAAAAAA

[jolly flume]

Light and Darkness, gather to me!

You endure...? Another approach, then...

I am yours, and you are mine!

[zealous meteor]

moooooom the endgame raiders are spoiling a year old fight

[random needle]

I won't let you do as you please!

[rapid whale]

i wonder how much va the next ulti will have

[jolly flume]

Ryne, are you there?

-# gaia?

[rapid whale]

lmfao

[versed kayak]

at least some of them are from shb, so more like...5 years

[jolly flume]

Aaaaaaaarrrggghhhh!

No one will erase our promise. No one!

[amber fable]

Should be full

[jolly flume]

I'll never stop. As many times as it takes!

[amber fable]

And new ult will be like dsr ...

[valid solar]

sorry you had to find out this way cherry but your clear of FRU was actually just a good dream, you still need to find a party that doesnt wipe to p3

[jolly flume]

So close to realizing our perfect utopia...

-# we're not going to disappear!

[vast jacinth]

BUNGO

no

[random needle]

-# aye, we're too stubborn for that!

We'll get through this, Ryne!

[versed kayak]

I'm probably gonna turn off voices for fru before I turn into chiyo

[alpine plover]

if this world cannot be our utopia

the NOTHING in existence holds meaning

(or smth)

[jolly flume]

yeah that's a good call

[jolly flume]

no no we didn't get there

we wiped to towers

🥀

stupid ass tank

[random needle]

Damn

Countdown started by Sapphire Raiden (16 seconds)...

10 seconds...

[jolly flume]

I'M THE ONLY ONE FIT TO PROTECT HER

[random needle]

AND OF COURSE THEY EARLY PULLED

[versed kayak]

I already don't wanna hear that one anymore lol

I hope the shb raid doesn't have the same voice line

[amber fable]

It does

[versed kayak]

at least the shadow dog doesn't talk

[rapid whale]

A feeble shield protects nothing

[amber fable]

[random needle]

Oh hey, my group is on shadow dog too

[versed kayak]

nice! it's a fun one

[alpine plover]

it should be shb story

[random needle]

On the bright side, if the next ult is ShB MSQ, that means we're probably getting more Emet-Selch content

[wicked delta]

Sometimes I think I should do FRU but then the universe reminds me that I suck at this game

[random needle]

I could listen to Rene Zagger talking for the rest of my life

[alpine plover]

themis and emet combine and create ascian prime prime

[valid solar]

next ult is 4 lords actually

[amber fable]

Half cut zodiark 🥀

[jolly flume]

[valid solar]

it was revealed to me in a dream

[wicked delta]

Maybe next expansion

[jolly flume]

hey at least you get the goat of voice lines

[alpine plover]

i have it in jp

[jolly flume]

you're not going anywhere

WHORE

[rapid whale]

I'm still curious in the "all new content" by ozma

[versed kayak]

have you heard of Warframe? :D

[alpine plover]

i forgot what he says

[wicked delta]

You’re a whore Chiyo

[alpine plover]

in jp

[vapid path]

They'd never

[jolly flume]

wtf...

[amber fable]

Its the garlean bozo ultimate obviously...Livia and gang with gaius 10 min yap before final phase

[vapid path]

Nah it's the zenos ultimate only zenos

[jolly flume]

find the second derivative of the ascian

[random needle]

I mean... A Garlemald marathon could go pretty hard actually

[wicked delta]

I forgot thats a character in ffxiv

And not

[alpine plover]

ascian derivate prime

[wicked delta]

[amber fable]

Hydiark prime

[alpine plover]

Ascian prime sigma

(sigma means sum in math)

[vapid path]

Chaotic alliance ultimate

[rapid whale]

It's the guy who says sloppay

[amber fable]

Skibidi prime

[rapid whale]

That's the be ultimate

I forgot his name

[amber fable]

Illberd

[wicked delta]

Ilberd?

[rapid whale]

Would go hard ngl

[amber fable]

Chaotic alliance already needs a ult designer

So its ult already

[valid solar]

bozja duel ultimate

[rapid whale]

Ilberd ultimate just yelling sloppay the entire time

[amber fable]

I genuinely want motr ult tho

[alpine plover]

Chaotic has more patters for how the mechanics can go than a lot of savages alrdy

[amber fable]

The 12 were lame af

In ally raid

[alpine plover]

[amber fable]

They need proper godly fight

[wicked delta]

Give me Bozja ultimate but its just me kissing Mikoto while my teammates are forced to do actual mechanics thank you

[rapid whale]

What's motr

[wicked delta]

Myths

Of the realm

[amber fable]

Myth of the realm

The 12 god

[rapid whale]

Oh that would be cool

[wicked delta]

I think only like 3 of them were halfway decent fights

[vapid path]

I didn't know that's how they abbreviated that

[alpine plover]

Nald'Thal ultimate

[vapid path]

I think it's good ultimate material though

[whole estuary]

It works because Mikoto cheats by standing in all the mechanics and casting Blink

[wicked delta]

For me it was Halone, Menphina and Nald’Thal

[whole estuary]

And casting float for no one but herself

[wicked delta]

Nald is fun but you just skip all his mechs its kinda sad

[vapid path]

I don't remember the other fights besides those 3 ngl

[random needle]

We should do a MiNE run of all three Myths raids

[wicked delta]

Scales becomes a real mechanic

[random needle]

I didn't even see scales when I did the first one a few weeks ago

[vapid path]

Actually having to do scales im convinced

[zealous meteor]

i unironically wanna do mine crystal tower some day tbh

i've seen scales once

[rapid whale]

bro

[valid solar]

I thought you were gay

[zealous meteor]

it was a terrible party

[rapid whale]

have u seen the tw streamers

[wicked delta]

I saw scales like once

[vapid path]

Besides release the only time you see scales now is when people purposely hold to see it

[whole estuary]

The only scales I have seen are Sophia

[rapid whale]

tldr their servers unlocked recently so the tw server dont have the gear to blow up CT and a lot of actual sprouts and omg

[amber fable]

I saw scale failed like once atleast

[rapid whale]

its foken glorious

[wicked delta]

I am but Mikoto is my favorite non scion npc so I will make an exception for her

[random needle]

The only stuff I remember about Aglaia was one boss had hammers that hit the sides of the arena, and you fought Rhalgr on the hand you sparred with Lyse on

[whole estuary]

Lilja is great too!

[valid solar]

this must be that femra propaganda I keep hearing about

[alpine plover]

now that i think about it, next ultimate is the shb story ulti, and the next ulti after that will be myths

[wicked delta]

Yeah shes awesome

[vapid path]

What was the fight with the arrows in myths?

[wicked delta]

Bozja NPCs are just awesome

[amber fable]

Oschon

[wicked delta]

Erm

[valid solar]

thaliak im p sure

[wicked delta]

Oschon idk

[vapid path]

Thanks avx

[alpine plover]

oshon

[wicked delta]

I only know he got mad tiddies lol

[rapid whale]

thunder god cid (ultimate)

[vapid path]

I think oschon yeah

[wicked delta]

I wasn’t doing mechs I was looking at his boobs

[vapid path]

He really does have mad tiddies

I could fix him

[alpine plover]

[rapid whale]

this is why you should play tactics

[wicked delta]

Does Mikoto exist in Tactics

[whole estuary]

Tactics Ogre?

[rapid whale]

if i lie will you play

[wicked delta]

No

[rapid whale]

darn

[alpine plover]

guys

who is winning game awards

goty

[wicked delta]

Theres game awards happening right now?

[jolly flume]

I would laugh at you but same when nophica came onscreen

[alpine plover]

tomorrow or the day after, forgot

[wicked delta]

Nophica got mad tiddies too lmao

[vapid path]

E33 for sure

[wicked delta]

Whole alliance raid was thirsting on my first run

[alpine plover]

i heard it's cool

[valid solar]

you have got to play it

[alpine plover]

but silksong could also win

[wicked delta]

E33 has Jennifer English so its gonna win

[valid solar]

unironically I think it has the potential to beat silksong

despite the fact silksong delivered for all the hype

[rapid whale]

smh clearly the winner is umamusume

[alpine plover]

uma is nomineed somewhere else

not in goty

[valid solar]

they do have best mobile game right ? maybe this time it wont be a hoyo game

[wicked delta]

Cant even play Uma

[vapid path]

They're in the mobile game running right?

[vapid path]

Damn why not?

[alpine plover]

these are the goty nominees

[wicked delta]

Im Dutch thats why

[valid solar]

are you actually

[wicked delta]

Wouldn’t you like to know weather boy

[zealous meteor]

he's dutch yeah

and that's why he can't play it

[vapid path]

Unfortunate

[valid solar]

real dutch or immigrant /s

[vapid path]

Should've been not Dutch

[zealous meteor]

source: also dutch, literally can't download it from steam or the app store or whatever

[alpine plover]

right

u guys have restrictions and stuff

[zealous meteor]

ok geert

[wicked delta]

Cant play pokemon masters either

[vapid path]

I know they have gambling laws I'm assuming that's why it's region locked

[alpine plover]

no hoyo games on best mobile btw

[undone tide]

damn reaper kinda shreds dungeons

[wicked delta]

Its all because of Overwatch

[zealous meteor]

funnily enough this doesn't even apply to all gachas

[valid solar]

but at what cost...

[vapid path]

Thank God no hoyo

[alpine plover]

destiny wont win

[undone tide]

zzz deserved

[vapid path]

Wait that's insane

Destiny rising is not real

[zealous meteor]

hoyo games, arknights, wuwa, girls frontline are all available

[wicked delta]

Yea

[alpine plover]

i think uma will win

[valid solar]

ive got my bets on either P5 or Uma

[undone tide]

zzz is the only good hoyo

[zealous meteor]

uma, blue archive, pokémon games aren't

[valid solar]

P5 gacha is kinda toxic but the game story is pretty nice

[zealous meteor]

(plus others i don't care about)

[alpine plover]

zzz in no categories but this one is best mobile anyway

zzz and wuwa kinda cringe on mobile

[undone tide]

yea ig that’s true

zzz is best gacha tho

[wicked delta]

Oh blue archive isnt on the app store?

Lol

[zealous meteor]

it isn't, and when i tried downloading it on android anyway, it didn't let me log in

[wicked delta]

Not that I want to play it but again, lol (lmao)

[zealous meteor]

apparently if your first login is with a vpn it'll let you play but i couldn't be bothered

[green vector]

p5x hehe

[wicked delta]

Too much effort

[vapid path]

No uma but girls Frontline being available is hilarious

[zealous meteor]

i should play girls frontline again
anime xcom....

and the story is neat

[wicked delta]

Ig the deciding factor is what will appeal to kids the most

[zealous meteor]

(gf2 that is)

[vapid path]

I remember hearing about gf2 is it any good?

[wicked delta]

And Uma does look pretty kid friendly

[vapid path]

I played the first

I mean if you think about it uma is just the duck life games but horses

[zealous meteor]

the gameplay is great
the gacha... i'm not sure. i didn't play it enough to find out

[wicked delta]

You’re actually so right

I loved the og duck life…

[vapid path]

I miss duck life

[vapid path]

I need to give it a download then

[random needle]

Ducklife mentioned raaaahhhg

[alpine plover]

Go vote btw

Voting still open

Today and tomorrow most likely

Ff is on 2 categories

[tawdry delta]

SS is a bit too punishing and difficult for the average player to win imo

[jolly flume]

e33 needs to win just to piss biscuit off

[quick verge]

everyone in this chat is getting banned if e33 wins

[loud nymph]

e33 is a masterpiece (I haven't played it)

[pale blade]

E33 made me forgive the French

[vapid path]

Okay I wouldn't go that far now

[alpine plover]

E33 helped me clear FRU (I haven't played it)

[valid solar]

If you can parry all of Simon's attacks you automatically become a 6x legend in ffxiv

Like you just login and there's one of each totem in your inventory

[quick verge]

just open osu if you want a rhythm game

[valid solar]

I like my wrists too much for that

[wicked delta]

What did I do bruh

[vapid path]

Who needs wrists

[jolly flume]

it's true

[random needle]

If E33 wins, I'm taking it as reparations for how bad Xenoblade 3 got snubbed a few years ago

[wicked delta]

Idk if I can take ur word for it bc you suck at video games

[quick verge]

stealing paper mario's gameplay but making it worse

and then adding a generic rpg story

[pale blade]

just give GOTY to Skyrim

[quick verge]

so it's the worst of 2 genres

and people laud it

[wicked delta]

Whicj paper mario

[pale blade]

it just got another release

[wicked delta]

Sticker star???

[alpine plover]

Hope it wont be as much drama as last year

But i think if either skong or e33 win it will be fine

Since hype and expectations and whatnot

[jolly flume]

why are you so TOXIC

[wicked delta]

Is not toxic

Is true

[clear plume]

Toxic and truth has no bearing on each other

Ones an attitude, being right doesn’t make you not an asshole and all that

[rapid whale]

nuh uh

tact is only for keyboard switches

o and soldier ult

[wicked delta]

He deserves it its fine

[clear plume]

Oh I agree I’m an asshole too, it’s just better to accept when you’re toxic then trying to say you’re not

[alpine plover]

wrong

everyone here is wholesome

if i ever crash out here please don't mind me

[zealous meteor]

this is a funny mount

[rapid whale]

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-4470566

[loud nymph]

It is a frog

frogmega

[worldly grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/tomega-tom-and-jerry-omega-ffxiv-o4s-gif-24417572

A DRIFTING TENDER

[random needle]

COME RIDE, HEROES, RIDE

[rapid whale]

No silly it's a chicken tender comes ready to fry smh

Just one more week aaaaa

[teal sandal]

Terrified as I download ff logs knowing how awful my performance across the board will be

[jolly flume]

sucking and trying not to is the first step to being good

and probably the most important one tbh

[loud nymph]

everyone sucks at first

[teal sandal]

True, just anxiety since I only just got into the endgame and have done my first EX's >>"

[timber stratus]

this is probably wrong place to ask but does any regular here actually play on linux

[loud nymph]

that's ok! Don't feel bad about that, we all start somewhere

[teal sandal]

Is there a way to check if my ff logs is working, can I just jump into something unsync'd and see if it works?

Downloaded it and ACT, I thiiiink both are set up right but no clue unless I try

[loud nymph]

If you're running ACT you can just configure an overlay plugin and whack a target dummy a few times

[teal sandal]

Ooh gotcha, I'll check to find one

[loud nymph]

jumping into something unsynced works too ofc

but naturally the log aspect of that won't be counted for anything

[zealous meteor]

fflogs will happily accept unsynced logs

[loud nymph]

I mean, yeah, but it won't show up anywhere other than on the upload for that specific log

[zealous meteor]

yeah they won't

but if you're just testing uploads

[teal sandal]

Ol reliable shinryu ex

Oki its getting my dps so hm

I guess I have to use the analyzer website to check how I'm doing compared to others right

And to get tips and all that

Yippee

[valid solar]

I know what you are

[teal sandal]

I have no clue what that means

Oh that I didn't weave between the 1st and 2nd?

Fair x3

[valid solar]

triple weave on 2.48 and it wasnt pointed out as clipped gcd

you must live in yoshi p's house /s

[random needle]

[teal sandal]

Oooh

Icic

[valid solar]

[loud nymph]

I mean it does say 2 instances of incorrect weaving so

[valid solar]

takes a thief to catch a thief I fear

[valid solar]

Im ngl I somehow failed to see that

[loud nymph]

it's ok we all know ffxiv players cannot read

terminal cantreaditis

[teal sandal]

I'm lost does it seem like I was using something I shouldn't if I'm able to squeeze in a triple weavex3x3

[loud nymph]

You can't

[teal sandal]

Ohhh huh

[loud nymph]

unless you have literally negative ping it is impossible to triple weave on a normal GCD without clipping

[teal sandal]

Odd

[valid solar]

wait no that cant be right, im never wrong, it literally doesnt say that anywhere

[loud nymph]

#gaslighting-lounge

[valid solar]

anything for the agenda

[undone tide]

someone just bought out my bookshelves

thank god

took like 2 weeks to sell 15

100k a pop

[valid solar]

nice

[teal sandal]

There's a practice PF for m2s and I am nervous to join but it isss a practice and I have done current EX's and the unreal

[loud nymph]

m2s is easy you can do it 🙂

well actually is it a fresh party

Or it is like

beat 3

[teal sandal]

Uhh says "friends first time | Hector" so

Sending a tell asking how experienced they want people to join to be for it

[loud nymph]

then you should have no problems joining if you are also fresh but definitely take a look at the hector guide

[teal sandal]

"no experience necessary"

yay

[valid solar]

[teal sandal]

First savage for DT

[loud nymph]

hell yeah

[teal sandal]

Hoh boy

[loud nymph]

have fun!

in case you need it btw https://youtu.be/Pb6sE5Hp3B8?si=lRO1nhGDJcvLdjcU

[teal sandal]

Thanku!

[random needle]

Yeah, if you haven't already, make sure to watch that

[valid solar]

um

are you sure it isnt m6s

because thats also called m2s in game

[teal sandal]

Lightweight^^

[valid solar]

ah ok, thats the right one then

[teal sandal]

if it was m6s

[timber stratus]

Yeah he is a lightweight

[valid solar]

[timber stratus]

Stay humble Jeff

[valid solar]

not very jolly of you

[timber stratus]

This name was forced on me

I am never jolly

[teal sandal]

Playing my pct so I can be a lil braindead with my rotation

RDM takes too many braincells and I am not comfortable tanking lvl 100 stuff, my mit usage is probably really bad

My WAR is almost 100 though so that'll change soon

[rapid whale]

as long as you keep a growth based mindset you'll get where you wanna go

[teal sandal]

true

One day I'll get an ultimate

I can't wait

Ehe

[valid solar]

TOP is a good one to start off with

expectation setting

[sly basin]

evil Jeff

[teal sandal]

red is defamation

I remember my friend before I started playing

Slamming their head into that

And I was saying to myself I'd never play this

[timber stratus]

the pipeline is real

[sly basin]

ive been lowkey considering trying ult over the summer but that would be the only time i could prog

idk if thats enough time

[timber stratus]

it is as long as you commit and study up

also highly depends on what ult i guess, if ur gonna do the brand new one probably gonna take longer

than say tea or uwu or something

[sly basin]

ill also have 5 classes but i should have less work since its summer, and it would be for tea

[loud nymph]

I'm planning to try TEA once savage and the new ult die down, like late summer

should be fun

[timber stratus]

tea is very fun

[teal sandal]

I get like 2 big breaks a year since I work for a college, one is upcoming so I'll get time with the current unreal and maybe m9s-11s?

[timber stratus]

the hardest prog is at the very start

[loud nymph]

Dolls into limit cut?

[timber stratus]

my internship starts on jan 19 and runs all the way until july

p1 and p2 are the hardest parts of tea for sure

[rapid whale]

1 week it ez fork

[timber stratus]

i think p1 and limit cut was half of my total prog for tea

[timber stratus]

nah im in a casual static, we gonna funmaxx

[loud nymph]

I don't hear people talking about much past that tbh, just the occasional reference to wormhole

which I guess is simmable?

[rapid whale]

yea i hear tea is v front loaded

[timber stratus]

yeah the other stuff is pretty easy

wormhole is quirky but yeah its very simmable

[sly basin]

oh ya i start an internship over the summer, i think maybe i could squeeze in tea attempt

[finite plank]

jp ping

watch me hit this triple weave and clip with a 2.63

[random needle]

New discussion thought

Favorite final phase theme for an Ultimate? Beyond Redemption, Ultima (Orchestral), Moebius (Orchestral), Revenge Twofold (Orchestral), Torn From The Heavens (Orchestral), or Return To Oblivion (Scions & Sinners)?

[sick dirge]

return to oblivion (scions & sinners)

im a bit biased cause i also really like the original in E8

[jolly flume]

music alone is fru

whole phase still top

[rapid whale]

top on top

[terse zodiac]

TOP shoulda changed music during magic number and enrage then itd be 1

[undone tide]

what

that makes no sense

[remote gate]

should eScape be the p5 music or should it have been the p1 theme

[terse zodiac]

The music doesnt fit the enrage at all

And doesnt line up

[loud nymph]

I've only ever reached an ultimate's final phase once so I can't say 🙁

maybe one day

[remote gate]

one day ill reach perfect alexander

[valid solar]

one day i'll resub

[remote gate]

7.4

[jolly flume]

one day i'll meow meow meow

[sick dirge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/847207078506004481/1388701966456197160/MEOW2.gif

[lyric summit]

i griefed a clean pull missed the caster lb

[sick dirge]

a clears a clear

grats

[teal sandal]

We did not clear

I feel like I really held it behind

[random needle]

Savage fights are usually tough enough that you won't clear from fresh prog in one lockout

[sly basin]

ur learning and improving

'we did not clear yet' 🔥 🔥 🔥

[teal sandal]

PF was ended sadly, here's the log of shame for our best run that I wiped https://www.fflogs.com/reports/fJ1G42Z3j7RWcAdk?fight=11

I mixed up the hi five and the 3rd beat

[rapid whale]

congrats!

[jolly flume]

My experiment has accomplished its purpose...and I will prove it by claiming this victory!

[undone tide]

we’re back

[random needle]

proceeds to lose

[loud nymph]

we all start somewhere, congrats on getting your feet wet 🙂

[craggy marsh]

Seeking the peace of reason (to keep living)

[remote gate]

sheep in a peaceless season

[sick dirge]

oo, thats a lot of deaths. still really good progress though

you got this

[teal sandal]

I’m probably gonna stick to learning and mastering all the current ex trials before attempting a savage again ehe

At least I kinda know the fight

Really crushed me for a bit though

No idea how I ended up with less dps than the tanks, prob my deaths and downtime but jeez

[jolly flume]

the deaths don't help but even beside that you're casting nothing half the time and also not using your muses which make up the majority of your strongest spells

I don't mean that discouragingly but that'll do it

you wanna always be casting something and never let your creature muse sit at 3 stacks, or your weapon muse at 2

[random needle]

Painting motifs have a long cast time, but the damage the muses do is more than worth it. If you're standing still for several seconds (and you're not in the middle of burst), it's probably a good idea to get a motif painted

[teal sandal]

Makes sense, I always worried that the cast time was not worth the damage outside of bursts

Which is why I would always swiftcast a second muse or hammer during my burst window

Idk if thats the correct move

I def have a lot to learn here

[random needle]

I'm not an expert at Picto, but you basically never want to be painting during burst, since that's two GCDs you're not doing damage

Are you in the Balance discord? They have a lot of resources for how to play each job effectively, including optimal openers and bursts

[teal sandal]

I am but only joined yesterday

[loud nymph]

You want to go into burst with your motifs already ready

[teal sandal]

I’ll have to read in there more, I only really got to DT about two months ago since I took a break after I finished Endwalker

[loud nymph]

the long recast for the motifs means that you're losing out on a lot of potency by using swift on a motif under burst

[teal sandal]

Gotcha gotcha

That makes sense

[random needle]

Here's an example of what PCT wants to do in burst (after the opener)

[teal sandal]

I see, I was always doing the hammer part first and then my subtractive

Idk what difference it makes that subtractive goes first but it probably matters a good bit

[random needle]

I think that's fine too, since hammer combo doesn't break subtractive combo and vice versa? Unless I'm misremembering

[teal sandal]

I assume its because you have more movement with hammer if mechanics start?

[random needle]

So if you need to move around a bit during burst, you can move your instant casts around a little bit

[craggy marsh]

If I snort paint irl do I get a damage buff

[torn kindle]

Ended the final week of Seiryu Unreal with double fox \o/

[timber stratus]

what if the fox was bald

[torn kindle]

I wish I bought one less set of materia tokens so I’d have an even 1k

[jolly flume]

the order isn't relevant, but you want all of those things in there

basically just dump your spells that have a cast time while you don't have to move, and if you do have to move you can dip out with hammers and starry

[rapid whale]

mhm

[random needle]

Bapple my goat, you can take over the Picto explanation

[rapid whale]

in most scenarios the correct move is to use your casts first hence the image but there are rare occasions you'll have to hammer first after a few casts

[teal sandal]

From my experience this is the only job where you don’t get a dps loss from holes in your prefrontal

[teal sandal]

Noted!

One day I’ll be able to play my favorite job in raids ehe >>

[random needle]

That's summoner actually

[rapid whale]

in those scenarios where the mechanic forces you out of leylawns, it's generally good to exit with a comet (longer gcd than the prism) -> hammer once or twice -> back into the leylawn

[jolly flume]

#1 thing in this game

is just to always cast something

this is like the rule you live and die by

[teal sandal]

I played RDM from heavensward to EW but I’m too scared to use it higher end content due to how much I have to juggle

[random needle]

https://tenor.com/view/jocat-always-be-casting-ffxiv-ff14-gif-26378815

[teal sandal]

Thank you Jocat

[rapid whale]

rdm is harder than picto you'll be fine

the only real opti for picto is bank a comet if possible

theres some more niche stuff but thats killtime dependant and not something you should think of early into the journey

[timber stratus]

always be skibidi

[jolly flume]

press button all the time, then press right button all the time, then you win

[timber stratus]

Im gonna pisschill so hard next tier clipping my gcd on bard constantly

and im not gonna give a FUCK

[rapid whale]

rewrite your dots every gcd fork

[teal sandal]

I’m hoping the flustering when you mess up a mechanic or forget something goes away after a while right?

[rapid whale]

no if anything your self insults get worse

[timber stratus]

nope you just get used to shaking it off faster

[jolly flume]

well no you always take psychic damage every time you screw up

you just screw up less

because you're more familiar

[teal sandal]

Oh no and fair

[random needle]

Especially in longer fights, being able to shake off mistakes early on is crucial

[teal sandal]

I just laid in bed internally screaming that I griefed this PF

[jolly flume]

when I fuck up in a new and exciting way I think about it for weeks

not that that's healthy

but I do

[timber stratus]

i completely shut off if i make a mistake for quite a long time

luckily i almost never make mistakes

(cap)

[teal sandal]

It was along the lines of How did I mix up role spreads and hi fives, we were at 11% and 4 queen bee stacks FUCK

[rapid whale]

happens

[timber stratus]

yep happens

[jolly flume]

haps

[teal sandal]

Yehahh

[random needle]

Me blowing up the party by touching Hrae's hitbox in HW1

[rapid whale]

then you sear it into your mind and never mess it up again

[timber stratus]

hardest part about raiding is just accepting u fucked up and move on

[rapid whale]

yea

i always say that raiding is just as much a fight w/ your inner demons as it is w/ the boss

[teal sandal]

I appreciate the support though, friend who does ults was freaked out that I even joined a savage PF

[timber stratus]

ultimates its even harder on mental cuz the fights are so long

[teal sandal]

Tbf, they were right

[timber stratus]

Being the reason u wipe 15+ mins into a fight is soul crushing

[daring pine]

me shooting myself in the head when a tank clips me during millennial decay

[craggy marsh]

When I make a mistake in a raid I always get paired with the person who has zero emotional control and they proceed to shout at me

[rapid whale]

me wiping my top party in every way imaginable in p6

[daring pine]

its ok i don’t flame people ingame

[random needle]

Can't wait to get to DSR p7 tomorrow again and wipe on AM1 to in/out 🔥

[daring pine]

except for that malehroth dancer in m6s

:)

[teal sandal]

Will I see PFs for earlier raid tiers at all after 7.4 drops? I wanna try harder stuff then since I have 2 weeks off work but do not think I can do m9-12s at all at my level

[craggy marsh]

[timber stratus]

It will probably be rough to find earlier tiers at the start

[random needle]

You'll probably see m4s parties every so often, but less

[timber stratus]

But you could also just jump into the current tier with crafted when it comes out

[daring pine]

also mango you get a pass for being cute

[craggy marsh]

[timber stratus]

the fights are not that far apart in difficulty

like m1 and m5 are not too different

its a little bit harder but you learn while doing it anyway, and everyone will be new to it

[wicked delta]

The difference is I wanna smash Dancing Green

[timber stratus]

?

[wicked delta]

I want him.

[timber stratus]

with a hammer right?

[teal sandal]

That makes sense, mostly worried about whichever raid I try seeing enrage since my dps is apparently dogwater

[wicked delta]

[timber stratus]

I mean if ur progging, u dont need to care about enrage

And you can do the extreme and normal raids and stuff to practice lots

[teal sandal]

Makes sense

[timber stratus]

I just think its more fun to be along the ride for new stuff too, will let you find groups to start fresh faster

[jolly flume]

I can't sugarcoat it, with that dps you will see enrage, it's not an if

but it's also not really that hard to improve from where you are, just hop in some content and try to just constantly roll your gcd

[random needle]

You've also got like 4 weeks to shore up your Picto skills, 1 week on current stuff and 3 weeks on new normals and ex6

[wicked delta]

^^^

[remote gate]

hope I wasnt this person tho I would never shout at you 🥺

[timber stratus]

i would

EUROPE BABY

[teal sandal]

I mean I could try tanking since my dps is really bad and I have drk and war at 100

[random needle]

Hitting a striking dummy helps for first principles, but the best way to learn to do your rotation while doing mechanics is to do your rotation while doing easier mechanics

[timber stratus]

tank dps matters too

Ur not gonna get away from that

[random needle]

Spoiler alert: everyone's DPS matters

[timber stratus]

Just play what you find on fun and focus on improving your gameplay over clearing fast

[teal sandal]

Thats fair mhm mhm

[timber stratus]

You get into a flow after a while of doing a fight where you just know what you can do at what point, and when burst is coming etc

[remote gate]

^^^

[timber stratus]

Also if u wanna just make muscle memory, training dummies are your best friend

[remote gate]

learn gcd mapping its literally your best friend to know when what happens

[teal sandal]

I also need to ask around about when to use my mits on pct

[random needle]

GCD mapping is, imo, something you kinda learn subconsciously while progging a fight

[jolly flume]

that's also not something you can successfully do when you aren't consistently rolling your gcd 100% of the time already

[timber stratus]

gcd mapping i think is too much when ur just learning how to play fundamentally

[remote gate]

good rule of thumb is to throw an addle when it's a raidwide

[timber stratus]

i would just focus on having uptime and not having to think what button does what

[random needle]

And yeah, like everyone has said, uptime is king

Optimization can come later

[timber stratus]

Its gonna be so fun to be dogshit again once new tier comes

I havent played for 6 months and i have never raided on bard

[remote gate]

if an attack is focused on you for a mechanic, use your personal mitigation

[craggy marsh]

Dw you're good I know you'd never do me like that

[remote gate]

the pudding ability i think? it's the orange one

[teal sandal]

Tempura coat ye

[random needle]

If you're not sure about where to mit, you can ask your healers if there's a mechanic that's particularly spicy they'd like some extra help on

[remote gate]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-garrys-mod-garrys-mod-physics-fast-intense-gif-26322619

[teal sandal]

Then I pop it for a mit on everyone

[timber stratus]

i like trial by fire

[teal sandal]

Its weird

[timber stratus]

i mit something if i pissdie to it

[random needle]

Addle is best for magic hits, but works on phys too, and you have both Tempera Coat for personal mit and Tempera Grassa for raidwide

[jolly flume]

addle is like

just press it on something that does damage lol

[teal sandal]

I really wish I had the analysis stuff yesterday when I was doing the Unreal

[remote gate]

there's also the forbidden art of learning another role for a fight to know when something is really annoying

[teal sandal]

I was the OT and felt decent abt it

[craggy marsh]

Is there a lore reason why dps players always fail to hit addle or feint

[timber stratus]

yeah it doesnt do damage

we dont give a FUCK

[half holly]

Hi endgamers

[random needle]

Sorry, I was casting F4 and didn't wanna clip my GCD

[craggy marsh]

But then why do they get mad when a tank misses rep

[remote gate]

too busy look at my Christmas tree hotbar it's all lit up

[timber stratus]

because that was clearly why we died

[craggy marsh]

Understandable to both of those

[half holly]

Very festive

[timber stratus]

If its not your fault its mine

And thats not fun

[jolly flume]

it's probably logged even if you didn't do it personally by the way

most parties have someone that's logging

[teal sandal]

Hoping this weekend to find a practice PF for ex3

Ooh hopefully

[trim frost]

if you cleared there’s a chance someone else logged it

[remote gate]

i went off on a samurai in p9s because he wasnt paying attention to whether it was an out/in/spread mechanic. i told him to stop looking at his christmas tree ass hotbar and look at the mechanic thats happening

[trim frost]

yeah

[random needle]

Even if you don't, ex6 is gonna open up next Tuesday

[jolly flume]

https://tomestone.gg/character/50703619/ashlyn-haelice/activity

[wicked delta]

Shield healer’s problem

[jolly flume]

find whatever you want there in the activity tab and click the fflogs link

[timber stratus]

thats you lil bro

[jolly flume]

should take you right there

[trim frost]

immediately booted from the ex6 party for not having 770 gear :3

[teal sandal]

Oh woah it is there

[remote gate]

god im still nowhere near crafter bis

[timber stratus]

im sitting in that 740 sloppy gear

[random needle]

Their problem for not ilvl locking it :3

[timber stratus]

im just a cute bunboy gotta get my gear the hard way

[half holly]

Hi Sapphire

[teal sandal]

9 wipes before we cleared it

[trim frost]

what is the hard way

[timber stratus]

next question

[craggy marsh]

Ermm I need you to have full combat crafted sets with pentas for EX6

[trim frost]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-gif-11802347158819983193

[timber stratus]

realistically ill probably just get it crafted for me because im the static eboy

[craggy marsh]

Im the static femboy

[zealous meteor]

eboy means boy on estrogen right /s

[dim pollen]

Soooo anyone else dreading tier 3 of the relic quest?

[timber stratus]

im hairy and wide i would never pass the femboy check

[jolly flume]

I should've done my hunt trains bruh why this shit always so expensive

[zealous meteor]

your fault for not doing hunt trains smh

[craggy marsh]

Chiyo fell off hard