#endgame-lounge

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wicked delta
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I know what arcane sounds like bc I play the job

alpine plover
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I forgot how brotherhood tastes

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Sounds like

jolly flume
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huh

timber stratus
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i played thousands of monk hours and have no idea what brotherhood sounds like

alpine plover
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WHAT am i typing

jolly flume
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pause

wicked delta
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Bro

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What did u mean by that?

jolly flume
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me when I taste the brotherhood

zealous meteor
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chiyo please bark

jolly flume
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(no homo)

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woof

deep gale
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well well well if it isn't the

timber stratus
odd beacon
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j can show you

alpine plover
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I was eating smth and another DM i said how this chicken tastes

wicked delta
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💀

alpine plover
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And it propagated here

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Mb

wicked delta
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This whole chat gay bruh

alpine plover
jolly flume
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no gayer creature than a straight man

dreamy whale
wicked delta
jolly flume
alpine plover
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Smh

timber stratus
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💆

undone tide
jolly flume
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i've never denied that

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four years of swim team does things to a guy

undone tide
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?

jolly flume
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?

alpine plover
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?

wicked delta
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?

limpid edge
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i need to try kfc in japan one day. I read it's their national choice of food during christmas

dreamy whale
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Square trying to get me to do these “role quests”

loud nymph
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they're good

dreamy whale
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Talk to me again when Curious Gorge is relevant to my job again

loud nymph
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do them

dreamy whale
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Too busy replacing the dt bgm with kikuo

jolly flume
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the melee role quest for dt was ass except the part where she said AAUUUUUUGH MY HEAD and I got ratatouilled back into fru p5 for a second

dreamy whale
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Entire main story quest with 2 cutscenes just to unlock custom deliveries

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Diabolical

odd beacon
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dt role quests are so fucking confusing

timber stratus
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oh i probably need to do msq at some point before patch

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so i dont have to sit there for hours while everyone is having fun in ex

odd beacon
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they read like ||theyre meant to be comedic villains then suddenly an actual serious death||

wicked delta
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I only remember the tank one

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Because eepy wol

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It was cute

odd beacon
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i dont even remember which one was it

jolly flume
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snork mimimi

timber stratus
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i only remember i skipped one of them to dye my gear

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i forgot which one

wicked delta
zealous meteor
wicked delta
jolly flume
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holo doesn't snore though

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immersion broken

wicked delta
pine holly
dreamy whale
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Also just learned that apparently thancred was being a dick in Ihuykatumu

jolly flume
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that's the only reason I did them

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lol

dreamy whale
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News to me

odd beacon
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theyre all mid

dapper zealot
odd beacon
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theyve never even scraped the surface of how good the original ones were

zealous meteor
pine holly
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I just remember that I just finished the White Mage job quests. Went to do the tank role quests for EW and oh fuck not this fucking shit again enough of the taint

jolly flume
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bro wasted a cartridge double downing a pile of rocks

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is he stupid

odd beacon
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me begrudgingly doing it for emotes

pine holly
dreamy whale
jolly flume
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oh true

zealous meteor
alpine plover
pine holly
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Took me way too long to realize that the mobs in that pull are mimics

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I just... didn't look at them

dapper zealot
zealous meteor
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honestly those mobs kinda creep me out

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same with the adds in the second boss

jolly flume
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the slime things?

zealous meteor
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WHY ARE YOU WEARING MY FACE

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yea

pine holly
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Until I had a group with some monstrous glamours and noticed the enemies wearing them

jolly flume
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I wanna jump on them

dapper zealot
jolly flume
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bouncy castle

wicked delta
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I liked it until I saw one of the slime things wearing my dancer glam

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And it was the big clone

pine holly
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You haven't known fear until you see some giant red and green Donnie Darko rabbits trying to jump you

timber stratus
alpine plover
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wicked delta
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So bro was flashing me

alpine plover
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Do i watch this

wicked delta
jolly flume
alpine plover
wicked delta
zealous meteor
jolly flume
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ffxiv healing sucks

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that's all you need to know

alpine plover
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Caetsu is decent

jolly flume
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it was in the title

loud nymph
jolly flume
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rinon did a good video on it that I didn't watch

zealous meteor
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that isn't who

jolly flume
timber stratus
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i dont like any ffxiv creator

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oh wait no rinon i do like

dreamy whale
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I like Rinon

dapper zealot
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Not even wesk?

dreamy whale
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And xeems

alpine plover
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Rinon is also ok but he malds a bit

timber stratus
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wesk doesnt do content for me

alpine plover
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Tbh the best content crater is Hector

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Creator

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Whatever

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I can't type

jolly flume
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wesk wiped me in top once

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unsubscribed for that

alpine plover
zealous meteor
pine holly
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I liked Vit but he quit 14 a year ago

timber stratus
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enhance

alpine plover
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Explaining all the hints

timber stratus
zealous meteor
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you can't make me watch clickbait neofox_floof_explode

jolly flume
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idk the only person I watch is rinon

alpine plover
dapper moon
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not enough clickbait. there's no giant red arrow

jolly flume
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everything else ranges from slop content to telling me things I either knew or don't care about

zealous meteor
jolly flume
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maybe I should go watch some desperius tier lists

pine holly
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Being a content creator for one game looks kinda hard

jolly flume
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being a content creator for a game with as slow of a content cycle and as boring of a viewing experience as xiv

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seems insane

pine holly
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I never could get into wow streamers

jolly flume
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like I genuinely don't think I've ever played a game that's as boring to watch as 14

pine holly
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Granted I didn't play Wow

timber stratus
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wow streamers are boring

dull drum
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basically any ffxiv content creator has to do variety as a side hustle

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or theyd be homeless

timber stratus
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the only fun part about wow streams is race to world first

dreamy whale
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Dawntrail solo duties as phys ranged try not to take 5 years challenge (impossible)

timber stratus
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or dungeon invitational

jolly flume
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ffxiv is only fun to watch when it's ppl fucking around in like criterion and stuff

dreamy whale
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I’m just gonna kill myself asap any time they show up and redo it on easy

zealous meteor
dreamy whale
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I do not give two shits about this story

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If I could skip it I would

jolly flume
wicked delta
jolly flume
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the thing about xiv is it's so boring when things are going right

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you gotta make shit go horrifically wrong for it to be interesting

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thank god pf exists

wicked delta
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Im not watching for good gameplay im watching to see you crash the fuck out

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The FRU P1 enrage incident

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That one paladin who could not do apoc

dapper moon
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i love watching pf footage. it's funny when i'm not the one involved with pf

zealous meteor
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ff14 is a game that's boring to watch on its own. you need a good streamer

timber stratus
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yeah ill start streaming with 3 buttons buttoned down

wicked delta
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Ive watched so much FRU I could probably do it myself at this point

jolly flume
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there's no stakes in pfing for me anymore so when people do stupid shit I can just laugh at it

wicked delta
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Gravity said no

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Dont do FRU

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I think gravity may be correct

jolly flume
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i do that while reading in bed all the time

zealous meteor
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gravity? you're gonna play AST in fru?

timber stratus
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bro is newton

jolly flume
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never realized my phone was that heavy until ther corner of it smacked me in the upper lip

timber stratus
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i have a scar next to my eye from dropping my phone

wicked delta
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It smacked my lower lip

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That shit is hurtingg

timber stratus
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it literally punctured my face and made me bleed

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if that dropped in my eye i think it would be gg

jolly flume
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wtf is your phone shaped like

timber stratus
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brick

zealous meteor
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this will help right

jolly flume
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you got some kinetic penetrator shit with a snapdragon in it

pine holly
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Most fun duty i had was Tsukuyomi while leveling White Mage

wicked delta
pine holly
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Somehow everyone was eating insane shit in p2 except me

shy obsidian
wicked delta
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Tsukuyomi is always a trash fire

pine holly
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Fucking was pressing a gazillion buttons a second to rez, not die, and yap in the chat

jolly flume
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the most fun duties are alliance raids with cleaving tankbusters

shy obsidian
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Why the fuck is there a watermark ew

jolly flume
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my friends have all learned to press arms length for busters when they're playing with me now

timber stratus
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Omg the forbidden

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Banned

wicked delta
jolly flume
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yeah my kill record is 15 in aglaia

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glorious

zealous meteor
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im gonna do puppets bunker and try to kill 23 people

jolly flume
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idk how else you can mass murder people really

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forked tower landmine gif I guess

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but that's less funny than just tragic

zealous meteor
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delubrum reginae landmines

pine holly
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During dsr p1 I liked to murder people with the tank baits on Charibert (it wasn't with randoms it was fine)

shy obsidian
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So uh
How come the Extremes are the only guys allowed to tag team

zealous meteor
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homosexuality

timber stratus
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what do u mean

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we are literally 8 people

worn bluff
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in fru

jolly flume
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niko have you heard the legend of gaming grandpa

worn bluff
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like went the wrong proximity for P5 towers, didn't mit for CT knockbacks

dreamy whale
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catJam forward and back and then forward and back and then go forward and back then put one foot forward

jolly flume
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this was a guy which it took the entirety of NA pf

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one month to c41 in top

worn bluff
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i've only heard of the JP guy

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sounds similar

jolly flume
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yeah he committed some war crimes in p6

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no mit on cosmo dive

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straight up not lbing cosmo memory

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wrong spot for exaflares

timber stratus
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Mb

jolly flume
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I think he got blacklisted by so many people he quit the game

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but at least he cleared top

zealous meteor
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mb im new

jolly flume
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it's ok to be new

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not to be a lalafell though

zealous meteor
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what the fuck.

shy obsidian
zealous meteor
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sorry i can't hear you i'm too busy being cuter than a femra

dreamy whale
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Dancin I’m shit at raiding initially but I learn fast

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Only took me an hour of prog to see P2 in uwu

jolly flume
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im shit at raiding

shy obsidian
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Am i valid for being a lalafell

jolly flume
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no

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mashes you

dreamy whale
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Wtf is that goofy ass smirk

zealous meteor
zealous meteor
dreamy whale
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Wipe that look off your face before I do it for you Yusmack

shy obsidian
zealous meteor
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like every lala.

jolly flume
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???

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get away from me freak

wicked delta
dreamy whale
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Pov you are lalafell

jolly flume
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time to get pizza and go home

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idk what to play tonight I'm not feeling FF

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but maybe i'll end up on it anyways

wicked delta
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Baldur’s Gate 3

jolly flume
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you just want to see me suffer

dreamy whale
wicked delta
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Yes but also

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Please dont play it

zealous meteor
wicked delta
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I will also suffer

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Watching you play

dreamy whale
jolly flume
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I could get back on e33

dreamy whale
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I got back into ck3 and bought all my missing dlc

zealous meteor
dreamy whale
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No money for Louisiana

wicked delta
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Could you hypothetically speaking

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Stream E33

jolly flume
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hypothetically yes

wicked delta
dreamy whale
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Had to explain to my non gamer friend who I got into e33 that you should parry 99% of the time

wicked delta
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Parryslop

dreamy whale
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True

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E33 is a sekiro clone

jolly flume
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parryslop>rollslop

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< guy who quit after like the first boss of sekiro

zealous meteor
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is paper mario the thousand year door remake (2024) also parryslop

timber stratus
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the chained ogre incident

quick verge
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parryslop33 ICANT

jolly flume
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if you think about it

timber stratus
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not a real boss btw

jolly flume
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isn't any sport where you hit a ball

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parryslop

dreamy whale
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Omg

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Ultrakill is parryslop

zealous meteor
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this server needs "-slop" rights taken away

timber stratus
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volleyball literally built around parryslop

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a receive is just a parry

quick verge
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sports already fall under sportslop

dreamy whale
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CTEslop my favorite sport

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Go bears

zealous meteor
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"sportslop" and "parryslop" are just slopslop terms

dreamy whale
zealous meteor
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isn't that one of those magical girl animays

timber stratus
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thats p12s

dreamy whale
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Gushing Over Magical Girls reference

timber stratus
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is this euro truck sim

zealous meteor
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yep

undone tide
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man i want to play e33

jolly flume
dreamy whale
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I forgot spain is a European country

zealous meteor
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misfortune hangs heavy on a head once held high. such is poor cover for when the heavens fall.

timber stratus
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spain isnt real actually

dreamy whale
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I was like

timber stratus
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its just one of those ghost stories u tell people

dreamy whale
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“Huh why tf is there Spanish on eu server”

zealous meteor
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it IS real and i own it.

jolly flume
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hey put some respect on paella

dreamy whale
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“There are no mexicans here”

timber stratus
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my favorite ragebait is mixing up portuguese and spanish to whoever nationality

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like if im with a spanish person i ask if they are portuguese

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they get very mad

dreamy whale
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my favorite ragebait is referring to europe as a monolith when making generalizations about specific countries

zealous meteor
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don't you fucking dare lump me in with those stinky belgians

jolly flume
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I thought europe was a country

dreamy whale
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Oh thats another good one ty

wicked delta
zealous meteor
timber stratus
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ask europeans which state they live in

dreamy whale
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Lumping fins, nords, and swedes together is hilarious

zealous meteor
jolly flume
timber stratus
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didnt even mention danes cuz they are not real

wicked delta
dreamy whale
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Is danish a country

jolly flume
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no it's a pastry

timber stratus
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denmark is

dreamy whale
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Where tf is denmark is it near iceland

timber stratus
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its southwest of sweden

dreamy whale
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Interesting

zealous meteor
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it's worn by germany like a hat

jolly flume
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oh is that like ikea

timber stratus
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yeah its like the parking lot of ikea

dreamy whale
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Is danzig still a thing or did it get absorbed after ww2

jolly flume
zealous meteor
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it's part of poland now

dreamy whale
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Ty

zealous meteor
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and no, denmark is not ikea. denmark is lego

timber stratus
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denmark is lego and mads mikkelsen

wicked delta
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Explaining things to an American: “so imagine a burger”

jolly flume
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bro let me be intentionally obtuse in peace

dreamy whale
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Ohh so is denmark the tomato

timber stratus
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yeah

dreamy whale
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Icic

jolly flume
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france is the lettuce

dreamy whale
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What country is the ketchup

jolly flume
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because nobody wants them in there

dreamy whale
wicked delta
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Lettuce is fine tf is your problem

jolly flume
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lettuce is fine

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not on a burger

timber stratus
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vegetableslop

jolly flume
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TRUE

dreamy whale
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Burger lettuce quickly becomes rotten goop so you have to eat it immediately

wicked delta
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Eat your veggies Chiyo

undone tide
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i really want to play e33 because i’m a turn based elitist and i want to see if its parry slop or not

jolly flume
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I love veggies

wicked delta
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Thats a surprise

jolly flume
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but lettuce does not belong on my burger

timber stratus
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its parryslop or dodgeslop but interesting

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u could also just rawdog it but its gonna be hardmode

jolly flume
dreamy whale
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Also wol what kind of turn based elitist are you

undone tide
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octopath

timber stratus
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i spent 34 minutes in a single fight cuz i was underleveled

wicked delta
undone tide
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is the best turn based game of all time

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octopath 2’s battle system is insanely good

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i don’t like the idea of action mechanics

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in turn based

jolly flume
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the best turn based game I play is final fantasy xiv online

undone tide
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purely because what strategy is there in parry and push big damage

jolly flume
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the turns are server ticks

timber stratus
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theres elemental status and stuff

undone tide
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i enjoy strategizing to maximize damage and minimize damage taken

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see: octopath

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waiting for the right moment to unleash your damage

zealous meteor
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unfortunately you're wrong. paper mario the thousand year door has the best turn based battle system in any game ever made

quick verge
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raid buffs with extra steps

dreamy whale
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Me when I’m talking about how I’m playing a turn based game and my fuckass homeboy comes to make fun of me bc I play on the developer recommended difficulty (normal) and he plays on damage sponge mode (hardest difficulty in whatever game)

timber stratus
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thousand year door is the goat

undone tide
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i need to play ttyd but no switch atm

zealous meteor
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play the original gamecube game yarrfield

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it's the same game

undone tide
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action to deal damage is good

zealous meteor
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yea

undone tide
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can my laptop handle it

dreamy whale
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I’m thinking about getting OT0 but I’m not sure cause I haven’t finished the other two

undone tide
zealous meteor
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yes

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if it can play ffxiv it can easily emulate gamecube games

dreamy whale
undone tide
zealous meteor
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if it can play minecraft at all it can probably emulate it

undone tide
quick verge
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you're legally emulating it btw

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because you own a copy

verbal frost
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ffxiv is back! The new raid tier will carry the whole patch! Fuck everything else! And Doom Train!

undone tide
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ofc

timber stratus
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yeah my cousin owns it

zealous meteor
timber stratus
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he gifted it to me

dreamy whale
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Do we think I can run Bravely Default on my steam deck

verbal frost
zealous meteor
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my cousin vimm

timber stratus
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visited him at his humble lair

zealous meteor
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he doesn't even host nintendo games anymore neofox_sob

dreamy whale
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Bravely default walked so octopath traveler could run fr

undone tide
timber stratus
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more pixelslop? how original

undone tide
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it was the first one to do it?

verbal frost
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I’m playing octopath 1 right now. Very fun game.

undone tide
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like literally octopath started the resurgence of pixels with hd effects

verbal frost
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It’s way better than final fantasy.

timber stratus
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dont worry im just ragebaiting to kill time

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i think it looks great

undone tide
dreamy whale
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I have octopath traveler on steam and OT2 on PS5

quick verge
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sloptopath

timber stratus
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im waiting for my air fryer to finish

quick verge
wicked delta
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More ragebait please

verbal frost
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Stop the ragebaiting .

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It’s not good.

undone tide
dreamy whale
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I wonder if there’s a way for me to stream my games from ps5 to steam

timber stratus
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Hot dogs

verbal frost
quick verge
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boiled hot dogs with a side of hot dog water tea

verbal frost
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They are making a PlayStation pc launcher soon anyways.

quick verge
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yummers

timber stratus
dreamy whale
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Apparently there’s a playstation pc app

verbal frost
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Remote play?

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Kind of.

dreamy whale
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Yea

undone tide
verbal frost
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But they are making a actual launcher

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Since the audience is shifting more PC

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at least that’s what people have been saying.

timber stratus
undone tide
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hell yeah

dreamy whale
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I have decent enough internet so I’ll give the remote play a shot

verbal frost
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Remote play is fine

jolly flume
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yo I just watched the trailer

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this song wtf

verbal frost
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I think PX play is better personally

timber stratus
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yeah its rage against the machine

undone tide
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I KNOW????

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EVERYTHING BURNS

verbal frost
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They showed 3 of the encounters. They all look fun.

jolly flume
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im farming that music roll day 1

undone tide
verbal frost
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The second floor will be the best right each tier.

undone tide
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not bearclaw

verbal frost
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It’s the new standard

timber stratus
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tom morello carries

undone tide
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beartooth

verbal frost
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It’s been like that for the past 4 tiers.

undone tide
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oh

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4 tiers

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not years

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also still not true

verbal frost
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P10, M2, M6, M10. All the best.

undone tide
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p6s

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m2s

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not the best

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both very mid

verbal frost
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M2S was definitely the best

undone tide
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p6s actually one of the worst fights of all time

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m2s is also very boring

verbal frost
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Never heard of it.

verbal frost
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The mechanics were cool.

undone tide
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it was fun the first time

verbal frost
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A unique fight where you aren’t straightup wiped for failing mechanics

jolly flume
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they've been going hard on these songs man we got chrissy costanza for give it all and now this

verbal frost
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Instead the boss hits harder and gets more hp.

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Alarm pheromones was cool also.

jolly flume
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those jokes about xiv being a music album with a game attached are getting more and more real

torn mesa
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too bad the mechanics themselves suck

undone tide
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arcadion so far has absolutely been the best raid series

verbal frost
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For a second floor? They really don’t.

undone tide
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in terms of everything

verbal frost
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Or even Omega.

undone tide
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arcadion is better than eden

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and omega

verbal frost
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These raids have been too easy.

timber stratus
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titan is the goat

verbal frost
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If this tier is hard, maybe I’ll change my mind.

undone tide
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i’m talking about overall quality

verbal frost
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The normals for Arcadion are awful also.

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Eden has the best normal raids by far.

undone tide
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presentation

jolly flume
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promise is the best tier they've ever made but as a full series holistically I think arcadion is clearing

verbal frost
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Nah

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Even Eden’s verse is very fun.

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Just look at the fights.

jolly flume
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the only one I actually like is titan lol

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oh verse

verbal frost
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That’s eden gate

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That one was mid ngl

jolly flume
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eh I mean shiva is pretty alright

verbal frost
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But E2 is fun

undone tide
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arcadion has a great narrative, great themes, the best ost in the entire game, insane presentation, and is the most creative raids have been for years

verbal frost
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e1 and e2

jolly flume
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ramuh is alright

verbal frost
#

Any fight with Gaia is very fun.

jolly flume
#

6 and 7 though

timber stratus
#

6 7

verbal frost
#

Ifrit and Garuda combined

jolly flume
#

shut UP

verbal frost
undone tide
#

i love eden but like the fights are mostly just referenceslop

versed kayak
#

watermelon ifrit is ok

undone tide
#

OH MY GOD LOOK GUYS ITS TITAN!!!!!!

verbal frost
#

Don’t see how Arcadion is like the best series ever though

versed kayak
#

e7s is boring

verbal frost
#

I really think Arcadion is overrated

undone tide
#

ITS RAMUH!

#

i think you’re overrated

verbal frost
#

Arcadion just has a nice vibe and it’s new so people like it.

undone tide
#

i hated pandaemonium when it was new

verbal frost
#

The normals were not that great besides M2 and M4.

#

M8 also I guess.

#

m6 normal doesn’t even have adds

undone tide
#

m7??

loud nymph
#

it's ragebait o'clock again

verbal frost
#

People like m7 because it’s hard

undone tide
#

this tier is probably the best slate of normals i’ve ever seen

verbal frost
#

But is it really fun

undone tide
#

yes

verbal frost
#

for tanks in normal maybe

#

But it’s subjective

#

I guess because it’s hard and chaotic it’s fun.

undone tide
#

and some subjects are incorrect

jolly flume
#

I honestly think m5 is the best first floor they've ever made

verbal frost
#

Still I think some of the normals have been awful

#

This expac

torn mesa
#

cloud of darkness probably clears

verbal frost
#

Ye

#

I think m1 was better even

#

e1

torn mesa
#

M1 was very meh

verbal frost
#

Black cat has persona music and fun mechs

torn mesa
#

E1 was okay but completely ruined by CS

verbal frost
#

But its front loaded

#

First floors are always frontloaded anyways

whole estuary
verbal frost
#

I think this first tier will be the best

spice path
#

I loved Scream as a song, but musically this raid series is the best. Individual themes for each boss is chefskiss

verbal frost
#

First floor

torn mesa
#

would take Asphodelos over LHW pretty easily

verbal frost
#

I think LHW and CW are okay tiers

torn mesa
#

I haven't cleared E1S, but from the other 3 fights of Gate, would also take that over LHW

verbal frost
#

But I think only 1/8 if the fights are universally agreed to be awesome.

timber stratus
#

this last tier was a banger, lhw was kinda bad outside 4 imo

verbal frost
#

Can’t really say that for other raid series.

versed kayak
verbal frost
#

Was CW really banger though?

undone tide
#

arcadion takes everything i don’t like from pandemonium and spits in its face

verbal frost
#

M6S, sure.

#

M5S is solid

timber stratus
#

all 4 fights are sick if u ask me

verbal frost
#

Bht 7 and 8 feel like wasted potential.

undone tide
timber stratus
#

8 is so good

verbal frost
#

I’ll take your word

timber stratus
#

i think 7 is the weakest fight of the tier but its still pretty good

jolly flume
#

568 this tier were all excellent

torn mesa
#

here you go

jolly flume
#

7 is like 5/1

#

0

verbal frost
#

Is 8 really all that amazing though? Just another non checkpoint boss

#

I thought 4 was better personally

undone tide
verbal frost
#

4 is a more complete fight

undone tide
#

absolutely not

verbal frost
#

Only downside of 4 is you skip the second hardest mechanic

#

Which is bad design probably.

undone tide
#

you cannot look at m4sp2 and say it’s complete

#

it’s literally normal mode mechanics

verbal frost
#

LHW was undertuned

#

So that kind of killed the tier

#

They make jobs too op and ruin the tiers.

verbal frost
#

Both P2’s are fine. But are they anything special? Not really.

spice path
#

M1S was kinda mid, m2S was fun, m3S was fun, m4S was fun but for a final floor was lackluster.
M5s was easy easy, the vibe was cool tho. M6s was... challenging? M7s was fun, m8s was fun.

undone tide
#

literally the only mechanic in m4sp2 in sunrise

jolly flume
#

idk 8p2 still took us like ~110 pulls to get through

#

which is 30 more pulls than it took us to clear all of 4

verbal frost
#

Prog is fine

#

But is 8 really fun to reclear

undone tide
#

yes

jolly flume
#

I think so

#

yes

#

it's not the top of my list for fourth floors

verbal frost
#

Mechs are boring imo. Not in the fun sense.

jolly flume
#

but it's certainly still fun

verbal frost
#

Hero’s blow doesn’t 1 shot

#

Which is bad design

wicked delta
#

Most people ive spoken to found M8S fun

verbal frost
#

You can eat damage downs

undone tide
#

?

#

yea so then you die to enrage in early weeks

jolly flume
#

I don't really care what you can get away with in savage

verbal frost
#

No punishment because the dps check is undertuned

#

Mech should still 1 shot though

#

Not the in/out, but the half room cleave.

undone tide
#

the fight is 12 or so minutes long

verbal frost
#

It’s 14 mins

jolly flume
#

it's only ultimate where the severity of punishment becomes something I actually care about

undone tide
#

there needs to be leeway to make it fun to prog

jolly flume
#

savage is like who cares if it's easy as long as it's fun

worn bluff
#

to a raider a DD is worse punishment than dying immediately

verbal frost
#

Pwkple didn’t enjoy progging it anyways

torn mesa
#

quickly remade this list

jolly flume
#

I mostly just care if it is both easy and not fun

verbal frost
#

Specifically becusss of p1

torn mesa
#

just off of what I did

verbal frost
#

So much rants

wicked delta
#

Noble and his tierlists man

jolly flume
#

8p1?

loud nymph
jolly flume
#

who complained about 8p1

verbal frost
#

P8 way better fight

undone tide
jolly flume
#

almost everyone I talked to who cleared around the same time as me thought 8p1 was on the better side of final floors

verbal frost
#

Highest I would go with M8 personally

#

Is like High B

shy obsidian
verbal frost
#

But i would probably but it low B

verbal frost
torn mesa
#

I don't know, I think M8S is a really good fight

shy obsidian
# undone tide

Who in their right mind is putting Brute Bomber above Black Cat and Honey B.

torn mesa
#

the second half is weak

#

but the first half is good enough to keep it high still

verbal frost
#

Tell me this though

jolly flume
#

I'd entertain A for p2 being a bit bad but

daring pine
#

brute abominator needs to be in negative F tier

verbal frost
#

What mechanic in m8 is actually memorable

jolly flume
#

p1 is S no doubt

torn mesa
#

reign

#

decay

verbal frost
#

Be serious

jolly flume
#

mechanics don't need to be memorable to be fun

worn bluff
verbal frost
#

These are first floor mechanics

torn mesa
#

I'm 100% serious

#

reign is a very simple and engaging mechanic

jolly flume
#

you know what was memorable and still shit?

verbal frost
#

Beckon and Twofold are prob the coolest

jolly flume
#

pangen

#

caloric

undone tide
#

revolutionary reign is quite literally one of the most fun mechanics of the last 5 tiers

loud nymph
verbal frost
#

And they are like… B tier mechs

torn mesa
#

twofold is a terrible mechanic

verbal frost
#

Looper is more interesting Twofold, but Twofold is presented better with the platforms.

torn mesa
#

welfare looper

blissful tendon
#

gamers am I understanding this right? You have to place diamond two seasons in a row to get the top 100 replica feast armor for PVP??

verbal frost
#

Like for a savage mech

torn mesa
#

I value presentation only very lightly

verbal frost
#

But once you learn it the mech is easy

undone tide
#

some hot takes here

torn mesa
#

if I valued presentation more

jolly flume
#

actually all of p8sp2

wicked delta
jolly flume
#

is memorable

#

yet boring

torn mesa
#

I would be more firm with S for M8SP2

verbal frost
#

Ultimate relativity

loud nymph
torn mesa
#

neither looper nor twofold are interesting mechanics

#

they're both shit cause they take forever to resolve

blissful tendon
torn mesa
#

M8SP1 making things resolve quickly

#

is part of the fun for it

dreamy whale
#

ns_zShake got chiaki set up on my steam deck

verbal frost
#

Let me check the rest of the list.

wicked delta
jolly flume
#

simple mechanics done fast

verbal frost
#

Tbh

jolly flume
#

is often a lot more fun to me

#

than big mechanic done slow

verbal frost
#

M8S adds is mid and was literally broken on release

#

What’s the other mechanic called before Beckon?

timber stratus
blissful tendon
verbal frost
#

The towers are a joke also

wicked delta
#

The nerds are debating savage rn

loud nymph
#

OH nvm it's not dead I'm just dumb

wicked delta
#

Serious stuff

loud nymph
torn mesa
#

caloric is a very slow resolving mechanic that is "complex"

#

but it's also one of the worst mechanics made

loud nymph
verbal frost
#

Even p1 m8 got no business being S

#

Low A

torn mesa
#

if M8S could be split into 2 halves

verbal frost
torn mesa
#

the first part I could see being at the very top

verbal frost
#

P1 is really just backloaded

#

It’s TR and Beckon, the only hard mechs

#

The rest of the mechanics are free

#

Sure people might struggle with decay

#

But if you are struggling with decay, I doubt you’re clearing the whole fight.

jolly flume
#

what savage fight does "most of the mechs are easy, only like one or two are actually hard" not hold for though

#

lol

verbal frost
#

Decay is like witch hunt.

#

Pretty dope mech but it’s at the start

#

Which is good design tbf

jolly flume
#

and reign is still far more engaging

verbal frost
#

But makes it easy to prog

jolly flume
#

than most of the filler they put in other fights

verbal frost
#

Reign is cool but it’s like a B tier mech

#

It’s a repeating mech that isn’t all that crazy

timber stratus
#

idc if mechs are hard as long as they are fun

verbal frost
#

True final one is cool ig

jolly flume
#

I think that's giving it too little credit for how fast it goes off and how fun greeding it is

#

shruge

verbal frost
#

My favorite part of m8

#

Is beckon into wind/stone fang

#

Then enrage sequence immediately after

#

That was the wall in PF.

#

What’s cool about it is.

#

Wind / Stone fang both the first and final mechanic

spice path
#

Can we all just knowledge that this is pointless because its all subjective? If we all agreed, life would be boring.

verbal frost
#

If he uses wind fang first, it’s stone fang second.

jolly flume
#

I also have to mention

verbal frost
#

But it’s fun to talk about.

jolly flume
#

that they literally tossed two harrowing hells at you

#

in six minutes

loud nymph
jolly flume
#

that's kinda based

verbal frost
#

Ye

#

M8S was fun for healers

wicked delta
verbal frost
#

That I’ll say

#

This tier was a good tier for healers

#

Ngl

#

So could just be role difference

torn mesa
#

I don't know, I did it on melee, and my caster also enjoyed it a lot

verbal frost
#

Ye

#

I mean I think the tier is solid you can enjoy it on any role.

#

Least fun is probably Phys R imo?

dull drum
verbal frost
#

They don’t really get much love

dull drum
#

pf really sucks at decay

verbal frost
#

Yeah

#

It’s sad because the mech is honestly not that hard

torn mesa
#

phys ranged being the least fun role

#

isn't really exclusive to a tier

verbal frost
#

The ferring decay Strat is good

torn mesa
#

it's also a pretty cold take in general

jolly flume
#

no

loud nymph
verbal frost
#

But ppl refuse to do anti kb

jolly flume
#

kill fering

verbal frost
#

Nope

jolly flume
#

with fire

loud nymph
#

?????

dull drum
verbal frost
#

Just use anti kb

torn mesa
#

oh boy

verbal frost
#

Literallly

torn mesa
#

it's ferring decay discussion hour

#

here we go

verbal frost
#

I don’t want to get toxic about it tho, lol.

#

But in PF the issue was

dull drum
#

decay THIS

verbal frost
#

People were doing their own mechs

quick verge
verbal frost
#

Specifically the healers

quick verge
#

trillion dollar company btw

jolly flume
#

me when I make an "uptime" strat for a mechanic where you cannot lose uptime

dull drum
verbal frost
#

who wants to ride KB

#

just use immunity

torn mesa
#

I personally prefer to ride it

verbal frost
#

No other kb in the fight anyways

#

Like yeah it’s cool riding it

#

Should it have been non kb immune mechanic? Probably

jolly flume
#

it's not about whether or not you ride it for me

torn mesa
#

has nothing to do with the cool factor

jolly flume
#

who cares about that part

torn mesa
#

but more so I don't like relying on KBI in any context if I don't have to

#

cause on the off chance it ghosts, I'm going to look extremely dumb

jolly flume
#

it's that the positioning the raidplan demands

#

is awful

verbal frost
#

Thought it was pretty chill honestly

#

And I was a melee

ember quartz
torn mesa
#

did you do

#

the other decay strat

verbal frost
#

Healers and ranged have it easy

#

They just have to move

ember quartz
#

oh nvm i read up

#

ignore my comment

verbal frost
#

No strategy doesn’t make the mechanic that substantially less tight.

#

That’s the difficulty of the mech

torn mesa
#

okay

jolly flume
#

it literally does

torn mesa
#

now I know you've not done the other decay strat

#

when you say that

verbal frost
#

?

jolly flume
#

it is so much

#

less tight

verbal frost
#

Well

#

I’ll link you what I did

#

One sec.

jolly flume
#

if the melees step out for 1 gcd for their puddles

verbal frost
#

There was an original ferring strat

#

That was trash

torn mesa
#

with ferring: you assign static positions for roles

verbal frost
#

Then people were pushing a new one

#

That I preferred

dull drum
#

question did they say the beach duo was actually 2 bosses or

torn mesa
#

with the sane strat: you make spreads fuck off while those that aren't marked stay mid

dull drum
#

is it just shared gay sex

loud nymph
#

it's shared

verbal frost
#

This was the one I always did

dull drum
torn mesa
#

that's still fering sir

jolly flume
#

spreads just roll their gcd and step out

torn mesa
#

the title literally says so

jolly flume
#

you cannot lose uptime

verbal frost
#

Well there was 2 ferring

jolly flume
#

it is so much less annoying

torn mesa
#

both of them suck

verbal frost
#

I feel like you are thinking about the trash one

#

It’s not a hard mech, who cares.

#

PF used ferring for a reason

#

It’s easier

dull drum
#

there was never 2 fering

jolly flume
#

you say that like pf doesn't choose

dull drum
#

murderless fering is just

verbal frost
#

That’s like the same reason

jolly flume
#

the most awful strats sometimes

#

for fun

dull drum
#

fering but you used your brain

torn mesa
verbal frost
#

Why people did braindead for ex4

jolly flume
#

pf chose fering because they heard "uptime"

#

on a mechanic

loud nymph
#

there's ferring and there's "ferring but you adjust it slightly so it's less shit"

torn mesa
#

here's the decay strat

loud nymph
#

it's still shit

quick verge
#

wtf is ex4 braindead

jolly flume
#

where you are at most 6y from the boss

torn mesa
#

that actually makes sense

verbal frost
jolly flume
#

at any time

loud nymph
#

just slightly less

verbal frost
sick dirge
#

drag the donuts to the outer part of the arena and everyone else stacks in the dead center before doing the swapping things

quick verge
#

oh that

verbal frost
#

It’s basically the same as the other EF

#

instead of the fan spread RMMR

quick verge
#

the strat for people who enjoy e33

verbal frost
#

What’s the correlation lol

sick dirge
#

honestly i liked the fan spread more

verbal frost
#

Yeah same

#

It’s the actual mechanic

jolly flume
#

I hate all "braindead" strats on principle alone

sick dirge
#

it was annoying to do with pf but it was actually fun to pull off

wicked delta
verbal frost
#

Oh he thinks they are braindead

quick verge
#

braindead strats stopped being braindead like 6 years ago

verbal frost
#

Idk, goty for a reason right?

quick verge
#

because everyone wanted to call their strat braindead

#

but they aren't actually

jolly flume
#

the only thing that is braindead

#

are the players

verbal frost
#

It’s not really braindead just an easier way to solve it yeah

#

It’s good there are multiple ways to solve mechs

verbal frost
#

Especially in extreme

loud swift
#

me? braindead?

#

nah

torn mesa
#

but yeah regarding M2S

sick dirge
#

i hate when a strat is called braindead

torn mesa
#

it had too much just waste of time mechanics

#

that were just dodge AoEs

timber stratus
#

i love when a strat is called braindead cuz it usually means i avoid looking at it

verbal frost
#

Where did you put m2s on the tier?

torn mesa
#

D

verbal frost
#

Ok that’s harsh come on.

sick dirge
#

brain alive strat

jolly flume
#

I really don't think it is lol

torn mesa
#

wasn't fun to prog; took like 6 pulls

wicked delta
#

It was pretty shit

verbal frost
#

I like m6s

torn mesa
#

was even less fun to reclear

verbal frost
#

But if you don’t include m6s adds

timber stratus
#

the saving grace of m2 is the music

loud nymph
#

D tier is an accurate take tbh

#

for m2s

torn mesa
verbal frost
#

M2s is a more Interesting fight

timber stratus
#

why would you not include adds

#

its literally the fight

jolly flume
#

m6s adds is the fight

sick dirge
torn mesa
#

also I think bridges is still better than most of the stuff in M2S

verbal frost
#

I thought the gimmick of M2s was awesome

jolly flume
#

that's like saying gaia without relativity

verbal frost
#

Very unique

loud nymph
#

"if you take out the interesting part of the fight the fight is bad" uhhhhhhh yeah no shit?

wicked delta
#

Bridges was fun

torn mesa
#

the gimmick literally doesn't make any practical difference

wicked delta
#

I hated lava though

dreamy whale
#

ns_zShake i have a confession

torn mesa
verbal frost
#

What is bad about M2s though?

dreamy whale
#

I liked E11 more than E12 idk what the savages are like but

jolly flume
#

it's boring and uninspired

torn mesa
#

there aren't any engaging mechanics

jolly flume
#

you dodge aoe

dreamy whale
#

Based off the normals E11 is better

torn mesa
#

majority of it is just dodge AoEs

dull drum
#

the red baddie in the trailer uses chainsaw blades

verbal frost
#

How is alarm pheromones boring

#

And the heart aoes

loud nymph
dull drum
#

this is a chainsaw man reference

jolly flume
#

alarm pheromones is just shit

verbal frost
#

Like just because it’s different and a dodge based fight

#

Doesn’t mean it’s bad

dreamy whale
wicked delta
torn mesa
#

it's all MSQ mechanics

loud swift
#

i cant say my opionion on e12s i unsynced it with like 6 people it went by too quick

torn mesa
#

there's 0 party coordination involved

verbal frost
#

If ppl actually hate M2s no wonder we will keep getting boring mechs

clear plume
#

If pheromones has less patterns it would unironically make it better without effecting prog much at all

dreamy whale
#

Stupid Christmas

torn mesa
#

if they made pheromones have a bit more control in the pattern

jolly flume
#

if random aoe spam is your idea of fun

torn mesa
#

and had a spread/stack during it

jolly flume
#

normal mode is over that way

#

idk lol

torn mesa
#

it'd pretty decent I think

#

like imagine something like bonds during AP1

wicked delta
#

I found Honey B normal more fun than savage

torn mesa
#

I think the same way

zealous meteor
torn mesa
#

I'm thinking about M2S again

dreamy whale
#

GULP I wonder how much it would be to buy ff8 so I can legally emulate it

torn mesa
#

and I literally cannot think of a single good mechanic in the first 5 minutes

jolly flume
#

like I enjoyed cactus phase in 6 because it's semi-random but if you have good pattern recognition you can just slidecast the whole thing easily and then there's the defams and sticky at the end which give me something to do

verbal frost
#

Some savage mechs should just be like individual mechs though

tawdry delta
loud nymph
#

but it's not very good tbh

verbal frost
#

Individual mechs that just tests your movement skills

loud nymph
#

you should play ff9 instead

verbal frost
#

Like is exaflares not the same concept?

zealous meteor
torn mesa
#
  • generic pairs/spread with an AoE overlap
  • random AoEs to dodge in beat 1/AP1
#

what else is there even

dreamy whale
#

FF9 doesn’t have Quistis and Selphie

quick verge
verbal frost
#

That’s exactly what fulgent blade is

loud nymph
torn mesa
#

yes and fulgent blade would suck as a savage mechanic