endgame-lounge

[rapid whale]

dying

[sick dirge]

old woman noises

[zealous meteor]

i switch to viper. hoooonk mimimi

[rapid whale]

push the glowing button

[pearl steeple]

we should all push the glowing button

[undone tide]

i actually had a little fun on viper when i realized that i didn’t have to do any work to do damage and could take it into a final floor and have it not matter that i’d never played it in savage before

[rapid whale]

yap

can just sit on 3 ranged attacks until the next double thingy

[undone tide]

well you actually want to save those for burst..

[rapid whale]

do you i thought reawakens take like 10s

so getting 2 oroboros is the 20s window

and you wanted to spend 1 before serpent ire to not overcap

[undone tide]

you spend a bit of your reawaken before 2s are popped

you can shove like 1 coil into burst

[rapid whale]

oh i see

[pearl steeple]

would anyone be willing to help me out with the endwalker alliance raids when and if any of you have time been trying to grab a glam piece for a while now but havent been able to get it

[random needle]

Tell the VA to get out of the massage chair damn

AaAaAaAuUaAhHhHh! NnUuUaAhHh!

[daring pine]

put me in the massage chair my neck hurts

[rapid whale]

i dont know if level 100 is enough to just run it over

i'd assume you'd need at least a couple 100s

[wicked delta]

Lowkey upset they removed it

What if I want an old lady voice huh

[undone tide]

i’m down if there are other people down

i’m bored af

[rapid whale]

i should rly go to bed

[wicked delta]

Yes you should

[valid solar]

you should

do dsr

[pale blade]

https://tenor.com/view/sideshow-bob-rakes-gif-10807867

[torn mesa]

incorrect

you can't even fit in 2 entire reawakens

let alone an uncoiled on top of that

[robust shoal]

vpr burst infographic is one of the all-timers

[valid solar]

you cant say that and not send it

[torn mesa]

Press Serpent's Ire when it's off CD -> 1 combo GCD -> reawaken twice

that's in fact all there is to it

[random needle]

You should be able to do this if you have a pulse

[valid solar]

we've had 2 reawakens, yes, but what about the third reawaken

[dapper zealot]

Why stop at 3 when we can have 4

[robust shoal]

man vpr guide looks so slick

I was I was artistically inclined

they've even got a pretty table of application delays

and wow every application delay on vpr is forever lol

[torn mesa]

triple awaken can be done for pot

otherwise it's pretty useless

[valid solar]

yeah but is it like an actual dps loss or can I just do it for the funsies of reawakening thrice in a row

[random needle]

What's application delay?

[valid solar]

when you push a button that gives you an effect but theres a delay before you actually get it

tank invul is good example

you can hit it and die anyways if you hit it too late

[random needle]

Ahh

[robust shoal]

tank invulns all have 0 application delay now, like 0.000s

[valid solar]

oh really ?

[torn mesa]

as long as both buffs are applied before you awaken, you can do it

[robust shoal]

ye

hallowed and bolide need to snapshot dmg though

holm/ld just check when your hp falls

I know there was some funni opti around the 10min burst I was leaving on the table in m4s on vpr but it was too small to bother with

you have to deal with buff/combo falling off for a smol gain

also application delay is not really relevant most of the time but it's important for opti when you have known phase lengths where the boss can blank a big finisher if you use it just before it leaves

[torn mesa]

it's funny how long VPR's application delays are

[robust shoal]

also if you're a drk healing yourself with LD (don't press bloodspiller as your last gcd)

[torn mesa]

in contrast to SAM's being very fast across the board

[robust shoal]

Ouroboros legit longer delay than your gcd timer 😭

I thought disesteem's 1.65s was long

[dapper zealot]

Look, vipers have to spin around a bunch first

[worn bluff]

ouroboros damage delay is almost as long as LB3 or something

[wicked delta]

[robust shoal]

You also used to be able to do funni stuff with mana using bloodspiller but now you're using the torcleaver combo instead of bloodspiller where it would be relevant

though you can still use disesteem for it

[random needle]

Does BLM have any significant application delays? I can't really think of any off the cuff

[robust shoal]

I think xeno has a really long one

[trim frost]

wow cats mentioned

[dull radish]

Xeno is pretty quick all things considered, F3 application delay is real long though

Old image with some of them: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/277967755343429633/1288242638046101585/Untitled.png?ex=69202933&is=691ed7b3&hm=df0b54fcb84c6d7ccd1e47b41effa0e996307eb6612a692dd90e78b9f93e6244&

[torn mesa]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Emevsz5_oJdmkXy23hZQUXimirZQaoo5BejSzL3hZ9I/edit?gid=1868377879#gid=1868377879

for every job

[versed kayak]

dance of the dawn I swear to god

[loud nymph]

ouroboros is 2.3 seconds?!

lol, lmao even

[torn mesa]

yeah, you know how you jump in the air and slam down in the animation

it applies at like the very very end of that animation

[loud nymph]

I always thought that felt off just never really realized why

[quick verge]

ouroboros is borderline unusable in pvp cause u can take a smoke break before dmg goes out

[trim frost]

ooh i didn't know this

[versed kayak]

it's super noticeable when questing and you use it on trash mobs

sometimes they take an eternity to die after pressing the button

[trim frost]

a lot of times i would onslaught right after inner chaos to see the text earlier so i thought that translated to earlier application

[robust shoal]

that's a very very common misconception

but you wouldn't be able to timecrime resource gen if it did force the effect earlier

(also one of the reasons why seeing text is only mostly reliable in telling if you ghosted or not)

[trim frost]

didn't they do some fuckshit to hyosho in like 7.2 or thereabouts

or was that just to the flying text

at the very least the text now only appears when the animation shows the blades connecting / audio makes the blade sfx

in both pvp and pve

[undone tide]

oh we’re talking about damage delay?

don’t get me fucking started on atone

[amber fable]

Pld isnt as worse as other jobs still

[dreamy whale]

A8S is going to be a slog

7 phases bro

Is this an ultimate

[trim frost]

is this consolegameswiki telling you it's 7 phases

[dreamy whale]

Yea

[trim frost]

yeah theyre fucking stupid lMAO

they say that ultima ex has 9 phases

[dreamy whale]

onslaughter > robot party > brute justice 1 > intermission 1 > brute justice 2 > intermission 2 > winged justice

[trim frost]

we call those mechanics ❤️

[dreamy whale]

Icic

[robust shoal]

welcome to xiv's first ulti :^)

[valid solar]

how many phases would DSR have if we counted each mechanic as a phase

[jolly flume]

dsr can have as many phases as you want

just loop it

[zealous meteor]

cool i cleared an ult then

[trim frost]

wait true........

[dreamy whale]

So blm is just spam fire 4 and then use freeze and firestarter and dont use triple cast unless you’re moving

[robust shoal]

I've been under some pressure before but just imagine doing dkt exaflares 110 minutes into a pull

[dreamy whale]

We are at 3 business days and counting

[random needle]

Blizzard 4 in single target, Freeze is AOE

!faq blmleveling

[storm frost]

THM/BLM Leveling Rotations

See the leveling guide for additional explanation, and the Basic Guide for information on how to play the job at level 100.

Image URL: https://i.imgur.com/JjdCjCw.png

[dreamy whale]

Oh ok

[random needle]

Freeze starts giving Umbral hearts at 58, but that's the same level you get Blizzard 4, which also gives hearts

[dreamy whale]

Wasnt there a healer that used to have a button to spread their dot or am I schizoposting

[random needle]

Scholar can spread their dot in PvP, but not in PvE

[dreamy whale]

Hmm ok

[random needle]

SCH does get Baneful Impaction at high level, which gives an AOE dot alongside their 2m burst, but aside form that, Sage is the only one with a general AOE dot

Eukrasian Dyskrasia

[dreamy whale]

Yeah im liking casters a lot so im playing them more

[robust shoal]

arcanist used to have a dot spread

[dreamy whale]

Am I technically in a static if i raid with the same people but I only join raids when I want to and the rest of them raid on a schedule

[ember quartz]

yo, gonna try hoh 71-80, i had to use my petris because i made dumb mistakes, how does doing till 74 normally then 3 alterations 3 flights sound

[random needle]

Arcanist/Summoner used to be really dot focused iirc, yeah?

[robust shoal]

yea

[dreamy whale]

That’s probably what I was thinking of

[trim frost]

pvp sch ❤️

[robust shoal]

smn had a button called tri-disaster, which as the name implied applied two dots to the target :^)

[random needle]

It would be sorta neat to have a dot focused job again, but considering the debuff limit, that's probably kinda janky to put in the game as is now

[amber fable]

When they solve buff cap

Then they can add it

[trim frost]

i think i read an interview that said they were intending on addressing things like the buff cap going forward

[random needle]

Weren't we already capping debuffs pretty often in early EW/DT alliance raids because of everyone using Reaper/Viper?

[trim frost]

dont remember if it was related to that "second reborn" thing

[amber fable]

#translations-and-liveletters

[trim frost]

o yea

[trim frost]

i think so yeah

but honestly i don't really consider hunt marks/etc. to be meaningful points of concern when it comes to things like buff limit

something like top is a concern though

xd

[robust shoal]

our war/dnc would world visit when we did top to get rid of fc buffs

[random needle]

Oh yeah, TOP was where it got bad bad, right

[hardy crest]

All this has taught me is idk how to read lmao

[daring pine]

fc buffs counting towards it is annoying

[robust shoal]

we buffed mid HW so I never had issues but they did

there was also something very funny you could do in BA with debuff cap

healers got spirit bonding manuals and whatnot so when they used the action that rezzes someone but dooms you they'd make the doom miss on themselves

[jolly flume]

I dodged my 40% in fru once

[trim frost]

speaking of ridiculous and unnecessary caps

[robust shoal]

o7

[jolly flume]

hold this powder mark for me

[trim frost]

did they ever fix that limit on the number of windows/hud elements whose position/size you could customize

i recall it being really low (63 or something) and it used to cause my lesser-used elements to reset to default

[jolly flume]

I didn't even know that was a thing

and tbf that's probably what sqex was banking on with that

[trim frost]

it pissed me off to no end

i had my logos actions and resistance infobox in very nice comfy spots and they would constantly get reset

or i would switch to like samurai and the bar would just be smack dab in the middle of the screen again

[random needle]

If that is a thing, I haven't noticed it

[dreamy whale]

60 levels is nothing

I can grind this out no problem

[trim frost]

i think they have fixed it since i haven't run into the problem again since endwalker

i just don't know what the new limit is

[brisk scarab]

FF16 is so fun

[ember quartz]

i wanna die, horrible luck in hoh and i cant make it to a forked tower pf cause ffxiv stuck on loading black screen because of all times epic decided to update fortnite now

so i lost hoh run and i lost forked tower

[jolly flume]

deep dungeon moment

I had four treasure room keys in a row on 181-184 once

[ember quartz]

nah i dont wanna retry this shit with mega safe tickle damage warrior

whats the best burst at lvl 70

[true beacon]

Smn

[ember quartz]

welp there we go

[dreamy whale]

This video is just wrong

https://youtu.be/vTXQrFrtrOw?si=0bZ7RA1FOjik0e0K

[loud nymph]

ffxiv youtube

Not even once

[dreamy whale]

Had me making a fool of myself bc I believed him when he said mch is very freeform

[loud nymph]

lmao

[dreamy whale]

Immediately corrected

[loud nymph]

it's the least freeform job in the entire fucking game

[amber fable]

Free

[dreamy whale]

Yeah

[amber fable]

Well it can be

[dreamy whale]

I like casters bc they’re pretty freeform

[amber fable]

You just won't do as good

[loud nymph]

you hear someone say something like that you can immediately disregard anything they ever say going forwards

[jolly flume]

caetsu chaiji isn't always wrong

[dreamy whale]

Yeah

[jolly flume]

but he's wrong often enough

that

[loud nymph]

it has no procs it has no variance it's entirely scripted

[jolly flume]

I will never take anything he says seriously

[dreamy whale]

He’s correct sometimes

[valid solar]

gnb

[dreamy whale]

Good to know that hes wrong most of the time

[loud nymph]

Ok true

[dreamy whale]

I was taking everything he says as truth

[valid solar]

mch can still mix up gauge management, gnb really has nothing you can do to it without messing up your carts

[dreamy whale]

Yeah but he said sometimes you deliberately overcap heat

And my mch main static member says thats absurd

[jolly flume]

gnb has some adjustments

a lot of people just play 2.40 for that though

you wont catch anyone playing 2.37 mch tho

(of their own free will)

[loud nymph]

I've never heard of this happening intentionally and for gains

[dreamy whale]

Pct burst very ez

[loud nymph]

you do it unintentionally when you make mistakes, sure

[jolly flume]

you had a scripted 5 heat overcap at 2m in endwalker

this isn't endwalker though

[dreamy whale]

You do your subtractive combo, 2 hammers, comet in black, rainbow drip, 2 creature motif

And something else i forgot

[loud nymph]

Barrel stabilizer actually gave gauge at that point right

[jolly flume]

yes

[loud nymph]

vs the "free hypercharge" buff you get now

[jolly flume]

now you just bring 50 or more heat plus your bs proc

[trim frost]

how do we feel about it being buffs instead of gauge add

[jolly flume]

much better in most cases

[loud nymph]

I'm glad it's more consistent now tbh, iirc certain jobs had gauge gain and others had "free actions"

[jolly flume]

there was some adjustment necessary for old fights bc you couldn't for example downtime manafication at some points bc your free combo procs would expire

whereas it just used to be yknow

50 gauge

but net positive

[loud nymph]

shout out to ShB manafication for being the least fun CD ever

"oh did you not press this button at exactly between 40 and 50 gauge fuck you"

[zealous meteor]

can't trust germans
(i don't know if he's german but he sounds like it)

[jolly flume]

be nice to @versed kayak

[daring pine]

i like some of his vids but i can't really take his job advice seriously

i'd probably just go to wesk or the balance

[jolly flume]

idk I just hate watching "content creators" talk about game balance

shoutout desperius tier lists

[valid solar]

xenosys vex on his way to state the most commonly requested changes and then say SE listened to him when they reveal it in a LL

idk if he does it intentionally or not but its very funny to see

[daring pine]

bungo

can u gpose me

[jolly flume]

I honestly kinda think it's the other way around

he just has an army of mindless drones that parrot his opinions

[dreamy whale]

My static made me a gif to go with my emote

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1414029079962980396/1441127827922489476/ezgif-33f7bbff0a288ff9.gif

[valid solar]

yeah sure

im on faerie rn I think

[daring pine]

wdym you think

[valid solar]

ill let you know when im out of this cs

it means im not sure

[daring pine]

wallahi you're finished

[trim frost]

fruity little faerie arent you

[jolly flume]

man like

[trim frost]

gay caveman:

[valid solar]

funny, laughed

[craggy apex]

u said that so deadass

[valid solar]

I was being serious

[jolly flume]

18:45 video just to not say "bloodwhetting good in dungeon, job has no upside in raids unless you can get a meaningful extra usage of holmgang"

[craggy apex]

ogay

[daring pine]

i watched that video because i was bored

[craggy apex]

[jolly flume]

o fuck

I didnt download wuwa update

22gb

[trim frost]

video version of that guy talking about arm's length in qnh earlier

[jolly flume]

despairge

[craggy apex]

holmlmlmgang

[daring pine]

lou

louu

[craggy apex]

ya

[daring pine]

im

posting gpose in a bit ok

new outfit!!

[craggy apex]

ogey

[daring pine]

is dress

[craggy apex]

[daring pine]

!

[jolly flume]

maybe I should gpose today

I haven't in months

and I don't really wanna raid

[valid solar]

now that sounds like a job for me

[craggy apex]

dew it

wait i wana join

[jolly flume]

I can send you my mcdf sometime or something

is it even called a mcdf anymore

[craggy apex]

mcdoofles

[valid solar]

do you have ll

[trim frost]

minecraft doufube

doufu mentioned waittt

[jolly flume]

I did two low effort pose files from spice and wolf that I was planning to take into alexandria for the medieval town vibe

maybe ill get tha toutta the way later

yeah I have lightless

[valid solar]

ill just add you on that then

easier than sending mcdf

[trim frost]

i should try taking a screenshot in the 3rd part of meso

its nice

[torn mesa]

speak of the devil..

[jolly flume]

lol.

[craggy apex]

wat abt me

[valid solar]

im on faerie I think

[craggy apex]

ogay

im comin

[jolly flume]

im not onlinege

🥀

ill come later

when im home

[craggy apex]

oh i was gona get online

[valid solar]

k

[craggy apex]

ogay

[craggy marsh]

Some of Xeno's takes are good but yeah his fanbase is pretty obnoxious

[versed kayak]

woooow sam, that's so mean

[trim frost]

@valid solar when u do gposes with ppl do we have to like stick around until you finish

[zealous meteor]

it's okay you're one of the good ones

[valid solar]

no, as soon as you enter gpose everyone who was with you gets locked in

[craggy marsh]

It's funny how the worst player interaction i had in XIV turned out to be someone who was one of Xeno's mods

[zealous meteor]

i didn't know you were german

[valid solar]

so they can alt f4 and it wouldnt matter

[craggy apex]

unless his internet crashes

[valid solar]

surely that wouldnt happen

[jolly flume]

yeah that wasn't a comment on his takes

[versed kayak]

tsk tsk

[jolly flume]

I think a significant amount of them are actually reasonable although ofc he content farms off some of them

[trim frost]

oo ok i was just wondering if it was different for whatever tools you use

[craggy marsh]

Xeno on his way to make a 4 hour long video discussing a 10 minute clip

[jolly flume]

speaking from experience

[craggy marsh]

It's impressive really bc half of the video he derails into something else entirely

[valid solar]

nah thats how vanilla gpose works, all the tools I use do is just let you apply animations to and move/rotate characters in gpose, which tbh should be vanilla functions

[trim frost]

i just personally think titling every video as "xeno reacts to xyz" is a little narcissistic xd

[valid solar]

at least the emote applying thing idk why you can only apply emotes to yourself

[craggy marsh]

I dont blame him though bc it does make him money

And people click on it

[trim frost]

so u cant make other people suck your dick or something idk

[valid solar]

im pretty sure its written like that because someone else manages his YT

[valid solar]

ok but if they have a custom glizzy gobbling emote they probably have the means to force apply it to anyone as well

[zealous meteor]

the crafter

[jolly flume]

[valid solar]

[trim frost]

well yea but i mean like in vanilla

making them do /grovel or smth

[daring pine]

hey its me

[trim frost]

or like. perform an emote that you have but they don't? idk

[daring pine]

@valid solar wya

[valid solar]

im still in cs

[daring pine]

alr just lmk when ur out

[jolly flume]

/shiver in front while someone else spams dyskrasia behind

[trim frost]

nahhh

[valid solar]

slightly concerned you even though of that

you just have a good imagination surely

[daring pine]

are you speaking from experience

[jolly flume]

yeah

[valid solar]

@daring pine ok im out where did you want to gpose

[daring pine]

hmmm

[craggy apex]

u widowawy went offline after i got online

[daring pine]

i wanna do rdm gpose so hmm

oh

[craggy apex]

is this guy for real

[daring pine]

that one dungeon we gposed in last time

[valid solar]

[daring pine]

so cute

get online vro @valid solar

[craggy apex]

he haye me

[valid solar]

im on

[tulip anvil]

i tried telling him hes not set for pandaemonium but he didnt respond

its a 7 dps 1 healer set up

unless hes crazy and trying to do m4s with 7 dps

eitherway i joined cus i like money

[loud nymph]

hilarious

[tired egret]

ah yes

challenge parties

my beloved

[thin tartan]

fre emoney

[random needle]

I wonder what the plan is for witch hunt with this

[brisk scarab]

Its hard balancing my urge to Play XVI or XIV

[tired egret]

tbh I only did challenge runs for ARR Dungeons

mainly did one for Pharoh Sirius & Hard Haukke

did it with a guy who later did 4 DNC runs of The Twinning

[undone tide]

yo who miss eden’s promise

[ember quartz]

brambl

[trim frost]

hapy brambl

[jolly flume]

my memories shall never be taken from me again

[undone tide]

we took them again

what an idiot

[ember quartz]

we should get brambles 3

next forked tower gonna have slimes phase but you also gotta do high concept and brambles

[undone tide]

still haven’t done forked

[whole estuary]

forked tower will be 7.55 content

[jolly flume]

i havent stepped foot in oc

how much do I have to do to unlock the relics

[thin tartan]

gonna listen to e12 music js cuz of that now

[whole estuary]

none if you really want

so far, at least

[ember quartz]

hop in forked tower

its fun

and i host anyprog today 10pm est

[loud nymph]

depends on how much you wanna grind FATEs in DT zones

[ember quartz]

:::)))

[jolly flume]

how abt none

[loud nymph]

because first step is either DT FATEs or OC CEs/FATEs

[jolly flume]

oh dear

[loud nymph]

Then you can't get the relic

🙂

[whole estuary]

I already think it's insane that you can grind bicolor gemstones at the same time as a relic step

[sick dirge]

hope you like rng

:3

the drop rates are genuinely fucking terrible its not even funny

[loud nymph]

first step is you need 3 of each of 6 different types of demiatmas, each one has a 5% chance to drop from a FATE in a specific DT zone or a 20% chance from CEs in certain areas of OC

[jolly flume]

trade offer:
i get: relic
you get: top clear

[whole estuary]

I always hear "uuugh Bozja relic sucks it's better to do FATEs outside Bozja" but like, those stormblood fates give zero rewards and I can at least sell frags from killing mobs in bozja and make good gil

[whole estuary]

DT lets me farm bicolors if I want at the same time and it's lucrative while being just as boring

[loud nymph]

Honestly it's not that bad but I was also motivated to grind in OC for a while

did like 6 hours or so and was about 85% done with the relic

not that bad for a one time step I'll never have to do again

[jolly flume]

6 hours of fates

oh the horror

[whole estuary]

the drop rates are known and they're fine

[loud nymph]

ikr

[whole estuary]

especially since you can scattershot so many birds with your stones

[loud nymph]

grind silver, grind demiatmas, grind level, grind phantom jobs

[zealous meteor]

the problem with the dawntrail atma grind is that 5% feels so fucking low
even if you only need 3 of each

[loud nymph]

right that's why you do OC and get the 20% drop rate instead

[zealous meteor]

i've said this before but 50% and needing 30 would feel better

[zealous meteor]

unfortunately oc is ass

[loud nymph]

I mean, true

[valid solar]

I forgot which one it was, but theres one atma that only drops from a single OC encounter so for that one its better to fate gamba

than have to wait for the exact encounter to reappear

[jolly flume]

yall are makin me miss ew relics

[loud nymph]

yeah I don't have a map of the demiatma drops overlayed with the CEs

I wound up with like 15 of 18 from just CEs

and had to do 2 or 3 hours of FATEs in Living Memory to finish it up

[versed kayak]

iirc its in the northwest, theres only one CE there

there might be some fates I think

nvm, southwest :D

[whole estuary]

giving us a watered down version of ARR relics is such a great move after complaints about EW relics though

[sick dirge]

jfc

[loud nymph]

you know what's funny is that verdigris isn't the one I needed to farm by hand haha

I needed 1 purple and 2 gold

everything else I got in OC in a small handful of hours

[whole estuary]

the motive was probably to incentivize people to spawn that CE more often since it's required for OC progression

[jolly flume]

@torn mesa this is like not fully representative obviously but it's still funny as fuck if you look at the results https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgD0UGAnoqA

[boreal pumice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/822830396332572692/1347273133572227142/wESztaZ.gif

[whole estuary]

unfortunately people don't actually enjoy the kill trash mobs wait and repeat to spawn target CE gameplay loop

[jolly flume]

white mages are just measurably, significantly more likely to fuck up mechanics

[whole estuary]

Eureka oldheads think they enjoy it but what they enjoy is the social aspect that arises from having a high downtime braindead activity to cooperate over

and making OC worse didn't bring that feeling back

[rapid whale]

mb

[jolly flume]

never say my hatred is unjustified

[sick dirge]

=warrior at the bottom

lol

[versed kayak]

interesting samurai they got there

[sick dirge]

dragurai

[jolly flume]

it's best interpreted relatively within roles obviously bc like ofc casters are more likely to fuck up movement mechanics than jobs without movement limitations

[undone tide]

what do i actually need

prep wise

[jolly flume]

but even with that in mind the data is accurate to what was in my head vibe wise

[ember quartz]

kl20 2 sanguine ciphers and 1 maxxed ph.job

[versed kayak]

SMN barely qualifies as caster and is still at the bottom

[ember quartz]

and study if you want but i dont require it

[undone tide]

the fuck is wrong with healers

[undone tide]

how do u get sanguine ciphers again

[sick dirge]

healer privilege

[jolly flume]

healers are doing the best there

[undone tide]

best ain’t enough try again

[jolly flume]

silence rank 13 fail rate job enjoyer

[rapid whale]

wait whats the grooviest for sugar riot

cactus? wings?

or is it like anything that causesa wipe

[torn mesa]

DD counts

[rapid whale]

ah

[ember quartz]

antiquarian at base camp

[random needle]

I think the main kick in the head for the demiatma phase for me is that I don't like it being chance based

If I spend a lockout a day for 5 days grinding CEs, I might get 0 atma some days and 3 or 4 other days, which makes some of those days feel useless to the grind

[zealous meteor]

.

[trim frost]

this feels odd

[random needle]

The aetherwells step looks much more tolerable, because even though there's probably a lot more specific grind needed, every fight completed gives some tangible progress

[zealous meteor]

even the randomness isn't inherently bad. like, bozja relic grinding is fine because you always feel like you're making progress

[trim frost]

maybe it's anecdotal but like

[whole estuary]

yeah, I can see how it feels awful to make no progress sometimes due to RNG

[trim frost]

your randomness should never be that bad unless you're actively avoiding fates and CEs i feel

and as i've continued to say

[whole estuary]

I have been conditioned on games that make you lose progress due to RNG

[random needle]

And it's even worse if you get atma of a color you don't need because you already have 3

[whole estuary]

but that shouldn't be the norm

[trim frost]

it's more optimal to leave occult if you have approximately half of your demiatmas already

[whole estuary]

CE to get the bulk, outside fates to fill in the gaps AND get bicolors

[trim frost]

yup

i get that occult systems can be fun to play with but it is illogical to continue to want to farm for one or two particular types within occult when the fate/CE location is pseudorandom and then complain about always getting the wrong types

[random needle]

I think I'm at the point where fate grinding is technically better, I just don't feel like I have a job that's super great at soloing FATEs rn

... well, actually Gunbreaker is probably fine for it

[trim frost]

you can set up fate parties

and it's also worth noting that you can absolutely shit all over hf/lm fates because of the lack of item level sync

[whole estuary]

If I'm really lazy I go SCH and art of war spam while watching anime on a second monitor

not even a burst phase to worry about like tanks

[random needle]

I already got all the atmas I need for those zones, the ones I need are all from the Yok Tural areas that are <Lv95 😭

[trim frost]

with semi-casual play i think the demiatma step took me roughly one week to finish

[trim frost]

i mean thats fine too you can run like mch or something

[random needle]

Wait this may actually be the play

[undone tide]

my job may have rank 13 fail rate but i have rank 1 fail rate

[valid solar]

valc you wanted to gpose right

[trim frost]

i would lean towards preferring jobs that have high damage output and low mechanical requirement for optimal laziness

tanks are boring

[trim frost]

no i was just asking

[valid solar]

im finished with lou and marce if you still do

[trim frost]

as i mentioned earlier logging in from here would require me to plug in my laptop and potentially electrocute myself so im gonna wait til i get home

[random needle]

SCH is one of the jobs I have at 100 and is my second best geared

BLM is at 100 too and has better gear, but I feel like one wrong move will make me explode from my nonexistent sustain

Also BLM AOE is pure malodorous tripe

[rapid whale]

you put respect on tripe's name

[random needle]

I'm not saying that all tripe is malodorous

[rapid whale]

https://tenor.com/view/parent-trap-the-parent-trap-annie-james-lindsay-lohan-fencing-gif-16715008224622229104

[rain geode]

I might just have to toss darts at a dart board for what job to play

[rapid whale]

arent you at the point where they're all separate roles at least

so you can focus more on the role gap ig

iirc you were at prange tonk and eelz right

[rain geode]

yeah Im between WAR, SCH and DNC

those are the jobs I have the most fun with rn

[rapid whale]

so at least for savage what you can expect for each role differs slightly but kinda consistent

tanks r expected to position bosses and you deal with mitigation cd management

healers also deal with mitigation cd management but then you throw in the factor of cohealer changing all the time in pf

[jolly flume]

"management" = ask someone who cleared what they did

btw

[rapid whale]

also a lot of mechs target healers specifically

and prange you're kinda expected to deal with any movement heavy mechanic

yea afaik savage isnt so intense that ppl make actual mit sheets for it

kinda just wing it

[rain geode]

so play healer because I have low confidence in others to solve mechanics

[rapid whale]

not really?

[loud nymph]

I mean, you'll have plenty of mechs that target non healers too

[rapid whale]

it's usually as simple as like "each healer gets targeted with x, have y players stack with them" or something to that effect like u saw in arkveld

[loud nymph]

bapple just means that party stacks for example are normally targeted on healers

[jolly flume]

you play healer because pf is fucking utter dogshit beyond belief at healing

[loud nymph]

and party stacks are kinda like

mechanics 101

[rapid whale]

yea

[jolly flume]

and you don't want to wipe to someone hard raising while a raidwide is casting and the party isn't topped

[boreal pumice]

stack em up CT taught me well

[loud nymph]

Generally speaking in savage when healers are doing X, DPS are doing Y and tanks are doing Z

it's pretty rare that ONLY healers will have something to do

[rapid whale]

ig cactus quicksand was the only point

[dull drum]

target THIS

[rapid whale]

everything else was more of a "baited on healers" type beat

[loud nymph]

yeah cactus quicksand is the only one I can think of off the top of my head from current tier

Hell healers get it pretty easy at some point of m8s

don't have to think about anything unique for p1

don't have to think about LWL or TT at all

[jolly flume]

healers get adjusted for on some mechanics because they already have to deal with the 6 other morons doing stupid shit

[loud nymph]

(not to imply LWL or TT are complicated or hard)

(just that healers get to expend 0 brain cells instead of 1 during them)

[rain geode]

Or maybe I should just let the actual most important thing in the game be the tiebreaker, whichever has the best glam.

[dull drum]

my race couldnt even wear hats until recently so

[rapid whale]

Glam unlocks next patch tho

[dull drum]

and yeah

[boreal pumice]

what if they have the same glam

[rain geode]

sure but like that doesnt mean a SCH glam would look good on WAR and vice versa

[rapid whale]

Nuh uh

[rain geode]

since the weapon is still a big part of the glam in my opinion

[boreal pumice]

idk the sch gloves could be neat its got idk bulk to em

[rain geode]

What I mean is like this is my SCH glam, it would not look good with a giant axe

and vice versa this is my WAR glam it would not look good with a book

[dull drum]

honestly just splash blue on any glam and you can use it

thats my take

[zealous meteor]

mb

[rain geode]

alright y'know what Im just making a choice not like I cant change if I really do change my mind Im just gonna heal

[dull drum]

i havent seen a single tank mit properly in m8s p2 twofold

pf tank*

[dull drum]

yeah regardless you’re only gonna be able to use 1 at the start anyway

4 weeks of tome + ex weapom

[rain geode]

yeah thats why I was trying to decide but Im famously indecisive and there where 3 things I was thinking about playing but now Im locking in SCH

[jolly flume]

@dull drum do i get pizza and a drink

or go straight home and lock in

[dull drum]

piza

[rain geode]

get pizza and drink

[remote gate]

pizza and drink

[dull drum]

sorry misspelled cause driving

but yeah

pizza and drink

[clear plume]

i thought healers were just bottoms

[rapid whale]

power bottoms united /s

[rain geode]

I am not a bottom

[mortal flower]

does that make tanks service tops? I mean, not wrong but fuck man.

[jolly flume]

well yes

that's why we fix the stupid despite being annoyed by it

my tank can't remember to buddy mit so catch me pressing adlo on this guy for his buster every pull

[ember quartz]

man i missed the OC discussion

a manticore killed 10 people including both chems on one side

went from 47 to 31

[remote gate]

absolute cinema 🎥

[sick dirge]

lmao

[ember quartz]

math aint mathing but there were a few deaths from supertrap before so didnt include that

i love forked tower if it didnt have max number of raises and had button entry like in dalriada/CLL it would be peak

[zealous meteor]

from a sample size of two: yes

[jolly flume]

2 is a pretty big number

[rain geode]

I am not a bottom

[loud nymph]

I am not a healer

[sick dirge]

im a healer but

pulls out rescue button

[zealous meteor]

bottom, got it

trying OC again and my gods this is so ass

[jolly flume]

give up

hop in dsr pf with me

[zealous meteor]

i think i am

no.

i don't even have dsr unlocked lmao

[craggy apex]

there r like no parties

[jolly flume]

gg

[zealous meteor]

i think one of the biggest problems is that there can only ever be one fate up at a time
and there is very little incentive to do anything but fates/CEs

[craggy apex]

are u trying to level jobs

[zealous meteor]

relic

[craggy apex]

oh the candy

[zealous meteor]

like, i've never seen an eureka zone with more than one NM up. and that's fine. because there's a lot to do that isn't NMs (and in fact, you have to do other things to spawn them in the first place), and people are given time to actually go to the NM. it's not killed on sight
in bozja, each area can have multiple fates up at once (but only one CE per zone, unless you count cll/dal), so even though people tend to kill fates on sight, you're not constantly rushing between them because not every single person in the fucking instance is doing the same one

and one fate at a time makes the relic grind even worse because if the current fate is in an area you don't need the drops from anymore, it's useless

[craggy apex]

are there like no people anymore

[zealous meteor]

there are. which is the problem
the fates die so fast that unless you're watching the map like a hawk AND have a riding map, there's a good chance they die before you can even get there

[jolly flume]

I see you haven't paid for the $7/month teleport cheat

[zealous meteor]

the what

[craggy apex]

i thought they did something for the fates dying too quick

[sick dirge]

they still die pretty quickly lmao

[craggy apex]

lmao

just follow as much as u can and once u complete an area you can disregard those fates

[zealous meteor]

and then you just get to sit there twiddling your thumbs until the next one spawns

like, you can gold farm i guess. but good luck doing that if you're not already maxed

[loud nymph]

go back to home base and refresh buffs

[zealous meteor]

so it's either All Combat All The Time or doing nothing

[loud nymph]

then wait for next fate

it's so fucking ass

[craggy apex]

oh gold farm is probably better

do u have cannonneer

or thief or time mage

you can level as you go and be fine imo

[zealous meteor]

don't have any of those

[remote gate]

do you have a warrior

[zealous meteor]

like the out of OC job or

[remote gate]

like the job warrior

[zealous meteor]

i do

[craggy apex]

try to get a gold farm party that rotates leveling (phantom) jobs

[remote gate]

https://youtu.be/nhqfeJXEvOY?si=A0L6XGNFdzG02qlT

[craggy apex]

and have at least 4-5 cannons at a given time while rotating who's leveling

1 phantom bard also can help w freeze

[remote gate]

you need to play warrior, be OC lv 20, and have a geomancer but this is a nice way to gold farm solo

[craggy apex]

and aim to get cannoneer

[remote gate]

oh and you need a cannoneer for additional damage

[zealous meteor]

ah, so i need to do a bunch of the least fun content in the game before i can do something that MIGHT be fun

cool

[jolly flume]

story of everything in this game

[remote gate]

welcome to OC it fucking sucks here

[rain geode]

I havnt touched OC

[craggy apex]

well i thought fates/CEs were more fun but if you didnt like that i'm saying this is an option

[jolly flume]

it's been three weeks and we still haven't found the motivation to finish AP farming so I can drag people into q40

[craggy apex]

which is probably more optimal + you get gold

[remote gate]

i was actually excited for OC after completing bozja stuff as well as relics so I was actually expecting something good here

[zealous meteor]

i fuckin love bozja and like eureka

and like... that's not nostalgia i didn't zone into either of those until after trying OC

[craggy apex]

yeah OC was kind of disappointing

[remote gate]

instead we got the lamest shit imaginable with fates that die immediately and CEs that range heavily in quality

[zealous meteor]

and the only way to make OC fun is to.... do content that is actively unfun

[craggy apex]

do tower it's fun

[zealous meteor]

which isn't how everything in this game works because plenty of content is fun from the start

gonna do the initial release of tower at paradigm's breach and give myself a seizure. probably more fun than OC

[loud nymph]

but I don't have most of my phantom jobs leveled

(and I'm also allergic to ass)

[jolly flume]

oh you poor soul

[loud nymph]

and yet I enjoy legs

go figure

[brisk scarab]

I cleared Fork, got all my phantoms levelled and have like 6-7 umbrae weapons atm

Im waiting for island 2

And the next fork tower

[craggy apex]

you don't need all of them leveled

[brisk scarab]

[craggy apex]

you just need 1

dmg check is nonexistent veterans will probably carry the dmg

just go for the ride it's fun

[clear plume]

Well prog for second tower will probably want you to have classes levelled realistically

[remote gate]

tower isn't gacha to get into these days right

[clear plume]

If thousands of people have it maxed your odds of being picked for a group aren’t super high

[craggy apex]

we're talking about first tower

[loud nymph]

you can be guaranteed to get in with your alliance now yeah

[brisk scarab]

I have 12/12 on job mastery buffs, but I only have the +1 gear

I aint doing that coffer bs LOL

[craggy apex]

insert tower was harder in 7.3 copypasta

[loud nymph]

I don't even have a full +0 set

let alone the +1 or +2

silver is such a pain in the dick to grind

[craggy apex]

i doubt you need any of that

[loud nymph]

and OC is just so fucking boring

[remote gate]

imma be real with you chief once I finished my atma grind I got out of OC I dont have it in me to go back for any of the content

[zealous meteor]

closer to finishing the atmas

5 more gummies

[brisk scarab]

I enjoyed Crescent, Im probably in the minority but I liked it

[zealous meteor]

i had like 3/6 fates in shaaloani when i started

[craggy apex]

i liked some of the phantom jobs and tower. idk abt the relic progression (i like bozja)

[remote gate]

i wish i had your viewpoint because i really wanted to like OC and be a gremlin but OC just lost so much on me

[brisk scarab]

I did OC grind for soooo many days

Basically no lifed it until I cleared Fork

Samurai and Ranger were my fav alt jobs

[remote gate]

going from OC to BSF is like night and day

[brisk scarab]

Gooing weeeeeee on the eagle

[zealous meteor]

valid but you might want to get your taste buds checked /s

[craggy apex]

i like time mage

blm go nyooom

[loud nymph]

Eureka is legitimately the most fun I've had with the game but OC just didn't have anything of what made Eureka enjoyable for me

very frustrating

[brisk scarab]

Im still on that collect 30 and 30 for 3 different quests of my Bozja relic

Fuck that grind

[remote gate]

what was your favorite part of eureka? how stupid broken you can become with the right set up?

[brisk scarab]

Ozma is now the only field operation raid mount I require

Im only like, 5% into Eureka story

[loud nymph]

no, I liked the community feeling of people working towards a common goal of spawning the NMs, and the general difficulty of the content for solo players forcing you to talk to other people and be social

Bozja and OC are basically lacking all that

[zealous meteor]

even bozja at least has people working towards spawning cll/dal

[remote gate]

100% this

maybe I should go back to eureka and finish my elemental weapons

[brisk scarab]

All I do with my Poetics is buy mats for HW relics LOL

[loud nymph]

being able to be stupid powerfully busted in pyros/hydatos is fine but it wasn't ever what hooked me on Eureka

[jolly flume]

all I do with my poetics is checks notes literally nothing for the last two years

[brisk scarab]

And the only ARR relic I have is for BLM

[remote gate]

ressing that random guy that died in the middle of the map

[brisk scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1378947731535695964/1382799314677403689/the-only-thief.gif

[loud nymph]

it was more the "ok, gales are coming in 20 minutes, night is spawning in 15, we need to be ready to prep pazuzu right fucking now, let's get everyone out there and fuck these level 25 mobs up so we all get loot"

that sort of community feeling just doesn't exist elsewhere in the game

[brisk scarab]

My first time in Fork being that I kill like 15 with a big trap hy accident is a highlight of my FFXIV career

Actually had my mouth open in quiet shame for a good 5 minutes

[remote gate]

please stop spitting facts youre flooding my house 😔

[brisk scarab]

Grinding Fork was definitely the highlight of my OC playtime

[remote gate]

maybe one day ill learn that shit idk

[zealous meteor]

i can have that experience in DRS without having to go through 20 levels of ass

[remote gate]

ultimate calls to me

[brisk scarab]

DRS was fun

[remote gate]

Do you see?

[brisk scarab]

I ran my first time through it on lego steppers and got my doggo

[whole estuary]

DRS is still fun even with everyone outscaling it

[sick dirge]

quick someone post that gif of a dancer killing everyone with a trap

or i think it was a dancer idrk

[whole estuary]

since it has mechanics

the devs could actually tune the thing as proper content because the entry method wasn't steaming garbage

it also gets runs at varying times of the day instead of one timeslot a day that if it doesn't work for you, too bad

because you know, you can just queue into it

[brisk scarab]

Making a raid requiring group cooperation and knowledge on mechs be entered through a publucly accessed portal should get someone who came up with it demoted

I heard that they based it off in game ettiquette of the Japanese playerbase, but that they also hated it too

[whole estuary]

Japanese players were also flaming snipers and I heard original BA entry had to be changed for the same reason

[sick dirge]

lmao randoms taking spots from people from your group and griefing your run

[whole estuary]

stop trying to make eureka happen, eureka is eureka

[zealous meteor]

it works in baldesion arsenal!
.......you know, years after BA released. as the capstone raid of the entire expansion. in a field operation that encourages cooperation much more than the "fuck you, got mine" of OC

doesn't the pots fate only let like 20 people get credit

[rapid whale]

seems like peoples biggest with the way SE handled OC/FT is "you've learned these lessons before and did the exact same thing we hated"

[zealous meteor]

making it even more of a "fuck you, got mine" thing

[brisk scarab]

The scum of the earth were people who purposefully prowled OC discord events then grabbed like 10 of then entey tokens to guarantee a spot in a preplanned party group

[sick dirge]

ew

[rapid whale]

dam

so it's almost like the system was designed pretending everyone would be good faith actors

which being the internet is lol

[clear plume]

Abba moment

[rapid whale]

wat means

[brisk scarab]

Some people I came across changed their name to "Crescent Sniper" and stuff like that

[whole estuary]

besides having that time for the population to settle, BA is also just a series of glorified FATEs that can be cheesed with a dorito marker

the only personal mech in the entire thing is stand on button or be yeeted

[brisk scarab]

And the only thing we could do was hope they died so no one would rez em

[whole estuary]

so if you can jump through the hoops, at least you're guaranteed a clear

[zealous meteor]

anyway, i think we're all ignoring the biggest problem with occult crescent:
there is no red chocobo CE. this content isn't instilling the fear of red choctober into the masses. yoshi p please fix

[sick dirge]

no

[rapid whale]

hopefulyl the second area is miles better

[brisk scarab]

Same

[sick dirge]

anything but the red chocobo

[brisk scarab]

This will also be the first Field-Op with two raid mounts, no?

[whole estuary]

the children crave violence

[clear plume]

Discord that refused to remove snipers and basically got known for just welcoming them bc of that, if your run was abba hosted, a quarter of your people are snipers.

[sick dirge]

i can still hear the KWEH

make it stop

[clear plume]

Ok maybe not a quarter but like

5-6

[zealous meteor]

no, we NEED the red chocobo. not enough people panic at the sight of them in rabanastre. we need to fix this

[sick dirge]

what happened to them yearning for the mines

[whole estuary]

that's a lot of snipers for a raid that sounds very punishing on randomly assigned personal responsibility

[brisk scarab]

Yeah, if snipers werent in vc and werent killed off before bridge, most of the time the run ends on bridge

[clear plume]

Well yeah, a group decided it’s the best way to “pug” it is to not sign up for the pugs and just show up to whatever is when you’re around and snipe it

Not a coordinated group

[brisk scarab]

The only real way to stop them is hope they die and ensure everyone in the raid puts a symbol on them not to rez

[sick dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/how-about-i-kill-you-how-about-it-kill-you-instead-fucking-die-gif-25365917

[clear plume]

But some amount of people

[zealous meteor]

no need to kill me, the red chocobos are doing a great job at that already

[sick dirge]

good

[whole estuary]

probably people from Bozja who thought it was like CLL instead of DRS or BA

[sick dirge]

i hope they peck at your face first

[zealous meteor]

even worse. there's a black chocobo CE in oc
but not red
they're making people fear the wrong colour

[whole estuary]

like the people from Eureka who were in tears wondering why no one was calling pull times for OC trash FATEs

[brisk scarab]

My dissapoint was the lack of lore from reaching the fork towers top floor....tf you mean it just says shit we already know????

"Language written in these books are undecipherable, seeming to be written many eras ago" Wow, really

[whole estuary]

that's all? I at least liked flipping through the lore bits when I had nothing to do

[brisk scarab]

Yeah, no new lore besides the note at the top

Ill have to post it when I get home

Anyways, I hope we get a mount for collecting all notes like Bozja

[whole estuary]

should be simpler with the absence of duels

[brisk scarab]

The only one I bet 70% of people dont have is the fork tower clear condition one

[clear plume]

I’m missing one random one from around the map and can’t be assed to care

[zealous meteor]

anyway i've moved on to the zones where every fate syncs to lv100

should be a lot less painful now

[brisk scarab]

I got all my relic atmas from basically OC, then for my last like 2-3 I did my fates

[whole estuary]

yah

it's the most chill way

[brisk scarab]

Since I could concentrate on that speific color grind

[whole estuary]

unless you absolutely don't want to interact with OC in any way shape or form

[rapid whale]

the real secret is you xiv players dont know the actual fear of red chocobos

[brisk scarab]

Doing relic grind through only DT fates sounds....painful

[whole estuary]

otherwise if you're like grinding for a set of OC armor, the atmas finish themselves

[rapid whale]

https://tenor.com/view/cool-guy-magic-unc-wendys-cool-cool-wendys-employee-gif-9631734923512815908

damn it i cant find the photo but tldr there was a random encounter in fft that could have all red chocobos and they uhh usually murdered you

and if oyu hadn't saved recently cuz u were grinding welp

gg

https://i.redd.it/o4neyqwzybtf1.jpeg imagine this but with all red chocobos instead of monks

many hours lost to those

this has been unc stories with bapple

[raw sand]

Unc bapple

[copper eagle]

I was gonna play this today

But I decided to go the gym now

[rapid whale]

Ivalice can wait

[copper eagle]

Night workouts

Hit dif

[rapid whale]

there's no sleep like post work out, hot shower, full belly sleep

[copper eagle]

I wish I could sleep after

I gotta study and do things on the game

[rain geode]

I wasn't planning on leveling anymore this patch but if I'm planning on playing SCH this tier it might not be the worst idea for me to have SGE leveled to have it in my back pocket

[jolly flume]

it's nice to have sage for early fights where things don't hurt as much and a less planning heavy kit is more appreciated bc you prog faster

[boreal pumice]

lasers go brr

[jolly flume]

alright chat

is it fru totem or dsr totem angle

[rain geode]

Dsr

[daring pine]

@jolly flume @raw sand i actually got prog

yaaay

yaaaaaaay

fucking finally

[raw sand]

:0

p2?

[loud nymph]

where'd you get to!?

[daring pine]

actually saw beckon bruh im free

(no im not free)

[loud nymph]

fuck yeah

(beckon cleanup is like 85% of what's left, congrats)

[daring pine]

it was an adds prog pf but i could not find any TR prog ones to save my life

so i was like ok fuck it i'll help this party

and maybe get some prog myself

and so i did

it was scuffed though because the party is absolute dogshit and kept trolling on rev reign and millenial

like bro

[raw sand]

ye clean up beckon, is p1 enrage

[loud nymph]

no I mean

if you can consistently do beckon

you're basically done with the whole fight because p2 is a joke

[raw sand]

p2 you zoom

[daring pine]

for beckon would i not just look at the first 2 -> move to safe spot and adjust based on if i have aoe or not

then look at 3 and 4

and do the same thing

[loud nymph]

yea

[daring pine]

sounds simple on paper

[raw sand]

For my static like

[loud nymph]

it's simple but it's fast

[daring pine]

yeah i saw it

it's p fast

[loud nymph]

brain processing the safe spots can be rough at first

[raw sand]

from p2 fresh to clear was done in around 91 pulls

and most of that was just griefing ourselves in p1

[loud nymph]

yea

we went from beckon cleanup

to TT prog

[daring pine]

most of the 8s parties im seeing rn are p2 so if i can get there soonish im good

[loud nymph]

to LWL

to clear in like

[raw sand]

ya

[loud nymph]

4 weeks?

and we are casual af

[raw sand]

14 Jun p2 fresh and then we clearge 21 Jun the following week

[loud nymph]

yeah it took us a lot longer but a lot of that was cleanup p1 and being casuals

haha

we also only do 6 hours a week and had a lot of waiting in pf because roster boss so

[raw sand]

i think my group had big motivation moment cause we only supposed to do 2x progs a week

but we did about 5 i think purely to push for clear

but i reckon like 70% of our time was still messing up various points of p1

[loud nymph]

yea

[raw sand]

TR was a biiiig culprit

[loud nymph]

we had the same issue

a lot of invisible pink fucking us on TR

or Beckon

[raw sand]

beckon wasnt so bad but we had alot of funny wipes because of misreading the sword order

its like "ok ur banned from callouts now"

[jolly flume]

[loud nymph]

I had enough trouble with it that I do callouts for 1st and someone else does callout for 2nd

makes it p chill

[daring pine]

oops! all millennial

https://tenor.com/view/dandelion-cat-meme-nature-plant-gif-8120693323711655977

[robust shoal]

heh, just noticed my static got server first for all of cruiser but that's prolly bc most members are on malboro

[rain geode]

The cigarettes?

[robust shoal]

why is there no progress graph

[random needle]

Five
Hundred
Cigarettes

[daring pine]

i could use 500 cigarettes right now

[robust shoal]

funnily, I started on malboro too

[jolly flume]

🥀

[rapid whale]

the taste is divine

[robust shoal]

but moved to UwUltros during the Sundering

[rain geode]

Gimme a Sage weapon that's just 4 blunts

[remote gate]

https://tenor.com/view/500-cigarettes-taihou-500-taihous-star-trek-cigarette-meme-gif-12526630909201875377

[jolly flume]

90% chacne thats already a mod

ngl

[robust shoal]

I wanted to see our progress graph, I know it was there before

bc we took exactly 300 pulls on m8s

A lot of them were not very long

[jolly flume]

us on our way to die to reign for the twelfth time this lockout

[loud nymph]

took us 375

[zealous meteor]

the gif says "star trek" but that is CLEARLY the orville

[loud nymph]

which honestly I'm not too unhappy about

[zealous meteor]

[jolly flume]

I remember my caster kept getting clipped on rev

and he was getting tilted over it

I was like dude

just stand on top of me

[raw sand]

if ur not being stubborn about moving and having pixel perfect dodges

are u even casting properly

[robust shoal]

guess this is all I have now

[jolly flume]

avg static interaction https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxYR2oQoylEy0eYYGORC_N69dEZe0vZw7j?si=XWc-k2FMCn4lYrrQ

[robust shoal]

we got past adds in m6s and people locked tf in

[jolly flume]

m6s was kinda horrific for us

[loud nymph]

is the caster the dumb fuck

[jagged aspen]

did locked duties always show descriptions? i just realized you can check what's available while on an alt lol

[jolly flume]

yes

that's proe my dumb fuck caster

[loud nymph]

excellent

[remote gate]

23 pulls on 5s thats nuts

[jagged aspen]

only 5 blind? daym. wouldnt you like, auto wipe to lava if you dont know that youre supposed to do 2-2-4 before it changes?

[jolly flume]

idk why ffl says we had 270 on 8, it was 249 but

yeah our 6 was kinda ass

[versed kayak]

I honestly never clicked a locked duty, huh

[robust shoal]

I think we did wipe to lava once before we knew to split

[jagged aspen]

yea me neither until now

[robust shoal]

but lava is pretty shrimple so once we got the info pull it didn't take much to execute on it

same with 5s, the group is pretty experienced so it was get new info->execute

[jagged aspen]

i would imagine almost every mech there would wipe you if you dont anticipate it? like, one wipe to realize you need to do 2-2-4. another wipe to realize that you need ppl on different platforms to bait puddles

or maybe you can realize how baits work in the previous wipe idk

[robust shoal]

I think you get to see baits regardless

we didn't see the all on one section towers before we cleared tho

[jagged aspen]

with 740?

oh

you mean the 8-0-0

[robust shoal]

yeah

[jagged aspen]

i thought you skipped it lol

[robust shoal]

our clear was last possible gcd

[daring pine]

alright now that i've seen beckon i think i'll jump into another pf

still plenty of time

[rapid whale]

You see p2 ez

[daring pine]

gonna do a quick roulette to reset my brain

oh come on

[zealous meteor]

it's always dps

[worldly grotto]

My bad

[daring pine]

oo fun scaith

[versed kayak]

lucky you, I had syrcus today

altough yesterday it was rabanastre so that was cool

[tawdry delta]

did you run HC hours

not too off from my w2 group but we didn't do HC hours

11/110/99 (a lot of early wipes to p1 seeds cuz bad strat)/280

[daring pine]

actually some sleep might be a better idea after this roulette if i can't find a decent pf..

okay yeah only one moonlight pf up and no dps slots open

time to take a nap

[jolly flume]

nah

7-12 evenings after work/school

then long weekend

[jolly flume]

yippee

[undone tide]

take me with you

[jolly flume]

get on

we ride

[undone tide]

i’m washed.

[jolly flume]

so am I bro

I just died to diamond dust

and we 1 pulled the clear