#endgame-lounge

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daring pine
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ew

tulip wraith
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haven't touched this since week 1 time, time to derust

daring pine
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yes bro im going into next tier as a level 34 mch

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no im playing brd

rapid whale
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nice

sleek moon
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the morally right™ way to do this is whoever joins as the third ranged/caster is the fake melee without even asking

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and if they have a problem with that, dont join a party that already has 2 caster/ranged

daring pine
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as if pf knows what morally right is

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or can actually read

proper cave
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They can't decide if morally right is boss relative or TN

daring pine
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man this is the longest a pf has taken to fill so far

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dear god

dull drum
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it just depends how next fights are

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from what ive been told

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m6/7 is absolute cancer for rdms

daring pine
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from experience

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7 more than 6

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6 is only kinda cancer towards the end b/c if you don't time manafication right your stacks get fucked at the start of lava

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you also have to pray you don't get 3rd or 4th bait in bridges because of the above

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7s was just annoying during p2 sporesplosion and p3 dd

loud nymph
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dnc was kind of annoying in m7s because during p2 seeds you are out of range of the boss for standard finish

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and it comes up during seeds

daring pine
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oh that's actually awful

cerulean crown
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yeah it's bad for specifically dancers there. they shouldn't be taking the tether there bc of it iirc? but that means someone else flexing

daring pine
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p3 dd wasn't as bad during my 2s as everyone was making it out to be

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oh wow im out of melee range of the boss but there is conveniently an add right next to me

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holy shit can an ot join this pf already, we're 7/8

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ok we filled

rapid whale
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the issue with this is that the adds die in 1 hit later

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so thats a lot of dmg that isnt going into boss shruge

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i get it feels fine for uptime but

daring pine
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yeah but if i dont hit the add i cant actually get my melee off

rapid whale
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yea thats why ppl r saying its absolute cancer tho

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healers adjust

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like

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you're saying its not bad cuz you can just hit the add im saying that the dmg on add is effectively wasted

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since after gaze it dies to 1 dmg

daring pine
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yeah ideally this just wouldn't be a thing that can happen but

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thank you square enix

rapid whale
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i mean technically its a buddy mit/regen on you

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but pf aint gonna do allat lmao

loud nymph
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why_I_dont_want_to_main_rdm.txt

daring pine
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ok um

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i think im hitting buff cap or something @loud nymph

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LMFAO

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mfw im doing my opener and verfire just disappears

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man is this rev reign prog or something oh my god bruh

half holly
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hi endgamers

loud nymph
half holly
daring pine
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hi lumi

half holly
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what are u up to tonight

vast jacinth
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How

versed kayak
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isnt the cap 32 or something

loud nymph
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I don't think the fight itself gives any buffs

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at least not at that point

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not until adds

daring pine
versed kayak
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time to ask your FC to turn off the buffs I guess :D

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I think they counted towards the cap

daring pine
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i just noticed my verfire kept disappearing during my opener and fucking it up

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aand

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the viper left and party exploded

loud nymph
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rip

daring pine
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i waited two hours just for that steaming pile of hot shit

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great

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didn't even see adds because these neanderthals can't fucking do rev reign

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or braincell decay

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hi guys so in order for us to clean up adds, we need to actually get there! shocker right

wintry elbow
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the savage for the cruiserweight is open, correct?

rapid whale
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mhm

daring pine
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it's unlocked yes

wintry elbow
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and i have to beat the savage lightweight to get access to it?

daring pine
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no

loud nymph
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no, just need to beat cruiserweight normal

daring pine
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just do cruiserweight normal

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then you can unlock the savage

wintry elbow
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did that

daring pine
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well there you go then

wintry elbow
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its not showing on the list, only lightweight is showing

loud nymph
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it's still in high end duty

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you need to look in the high end duty finder

daring pine
wintry elbow
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thank you 🙂

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and if i am tank i do the M3 one for my weapon?

daring pine
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m4 for savage weapon

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m3 to augment the tome weapon

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although you can just exchange the tokens from the two dawntrail alliance raids for the tome weapon augment now

wintry elbow
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so i am doing it wrong? opps

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i am trying to get that level 760 weapon for pld

daring pine
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depends on what exactly you're going for

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yeah you're gonna have to specify, there are 3 different ilvl760 weapons

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and the savage one is 765

loud nymph
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if you want the 760 augmented tome weapon specifically

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just run m8 normal 4 times

daring pine
loud nymph
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then get the 750

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then buy the augment item with nuts

wintry elbow
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going for the augmented historia sword, level 760

loud nymph
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you don't need to do savage at all for it and if you haven't learned the savage fights you will probably not want to start learning them now

wintry elbow
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i thought that was the best pld weapon

loud nymph
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no

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augmented tome is never the best weapon

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ever

daring pine
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savage weapon is best in slot

wintry elbow
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What is the best current weapon for pld?

loud nymph
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the one from m8s

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babyface champion's whatever

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but it will only be best for another month

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and if you haven't learned m8s yet

versed kayak
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We're getting new gear in about a month btw, so the current savage weapon will be replaced soon

daring pine
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yeah good luck progging with a month left to go

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oh yeah kinger ester is in the exchange now

loud nymph
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yes

daring pine
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literally just 1 token each

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amazing

wintry elbow
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do i have to be really good at video games to get the gear in a month?

daring pine
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well yes

loud nymph
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you also have to be lucky

daring pine
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but also i severely doubt it will happen this late

loud nymph
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to get people in your pf who aren't shitters

versed kayak
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Savage is difficult endgame content, its not something you do in an evening, usually

loud nymph
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and who know what they are doing

daring pine
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considering the current state of pf is a steaming pile of dogshit

wintry elbow
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what makes it difficult? just knowing where to stand like the other fights?

daring pine
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you're better off waiting until 7.4

versed kayak
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Is there a reason you want the weapon, or is it just wanting "the best weapon"

loud nymph
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high damage

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complicated mechanics

dreamy whale
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SpeChewing so if I play xiv on a steam deck I can use plogon and still have the controller layout right

daring pine
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actually knowing how to play your job to a somewhat decent degree otherwise you will wipe to enrage

dreamy whale
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Hmmm

versed kayak
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xivlauncher works just fine on the deck

dreamy whale
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I might get one then

pale blade
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I played the game on Steam Deck but after the free trial became region-locked last year I was unable to since

loud nymph
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like m8s is very doable but it is not easy especially if you are brand new to high end content

wintry elbow
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i guess i have to see it to understand so might try some, fast decision doesn't mean anything with ping with online games i thought

pale blade
loud nymph
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you should geniunely expect to take several weeks or even months

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to learn the fight if you are brand new to high end content

dreamy whale
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Im getting like 800 bucks from student loan refunds so

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Steam deck time :3

versed kayak
dense oxide
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More like fast decision making time

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Based on several different permutations of what the boss does

versed kayak
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well, if your ping is super high, it'll force you to be faster than with lower ping

dense oxide
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Then resolving where you specifically need to stand based on that

versed kayak
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If you haven't done any high end content in this game, try an extreme first

dreamy whale
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Idk how it is in current content but my experience with savage is like

dense oxide
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Not like in normal mode where its just dont stand in bad

dreamy whale
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You can map stuff out

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Mechanics come on a timeline

wintry elbow
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so those normal raids the m1-m8, what is the difficulty on them?

loud nymph
# dense oxide More like fast decision making time

yeah that's kinda what I was getting at; like, for revolutionary/eminent reign for m8s, you need to know where to pre position for each of them based on your role and based on where the boss winds up

versed kayak
dense oxide
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Each player will have a specific place that they need to stand and can't just yolo it and be where anyone else is supposed to be

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yea

versed kayak
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Anything you've done in MSQ and normal raids is basically not even worth mentioning when it comes to discussing difficulty in the game

dreamy whale
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Clock spots my beloved

dense oxide
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Normal mode is just dodge the stuff on the floor

loud nymph
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if you haven't done any high end content before you will have a very hard time going directly into m8s

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and should probably start with something more approachable

versed kayak
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and regarding the "fast reaction time", I guess quantum has a mechanic where you gotta react fast, but thats not the norm

dreamy whale
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Oh right i have a question regarding reaction time

loud nymph
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yeah, savage does not require fast reaction time so much as it requires knowledge of each mechanic and fast decision making

dreamy whale
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How tf are you meant to dodge the aoes where it shows up on the floor for literally half a second

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Are there tells

wintry elbow
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do i need to find a free company now to do savages with? or can i just join when its released, or do i join a FC then?

versed kayak
dull drum
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is it ifrit transition

dense oxide
loud nymph
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you don't need an FC for savage

dreamy whale
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SpeChewing mt gulg and other dungeon bosses

loud nymph
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yeah you missed a tell

dense oxide
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Just not really right now when the raid has been out for like 9 month

dull drum
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theres a tell

versed kayak
dreamy whale
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I figured

versed kayak
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dungeon stuff gives you tiiiime

dull drum
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cube boss its the faces on its side

dreamy whale
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Cube is easy

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Im talking about final one

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The double ring aoe

loud nymph
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that's literally just

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stand at max melee range

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it's always safe there

dreamy whale
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Yea I didn’t know when i did it the first time so i ate 3 vuln stacks

tulip wraith
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the one with the rings around it is the "real" one

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or whatever they are

versed kayak
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I don't even remember what the final boss looks like

wintry elbow
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So when the next end game content comes out, i can just join using the duty and watch a youtube video to get a nice sword?

versed kayak
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can only remember the Rubik's cube

loud nymph
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but as a general rule if you saw an aoe flash on the ground and disappear faster than you can react to, you missed a tell either from the arena or from the boss itself

dreamy whale
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Its the 4th lightwarden :3

shadow pilot
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Watch is another thing
Practice is another beast

loud nymph
dense oxide
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Yes

dreamy whale
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I be like

loud nymph
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if you have never done savage before

versed kayak
loud nymph
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you will have a very difficult time

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it isn't just "walk in, get free sword"

dreamy whale
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I need to be more attentive ingame

loud nymph
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if you have never done high end you should expect that the learning process for one of these fights will take weeks

dreamy whale
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Like i can handle most mechanics when i know how they work but

loud nymph
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or longer

dreamy whale
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Arena tells are my weakness

wintry elbow
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ok, but there is no FC that does end game, i have to join strangers?

loud nymph
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pre-formed raid groups in this game are called statics

pine holly
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Had a really good P7 pull, my internet died

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cursed

loud nymph
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you can look for a static if you don't want to do raids with PF strangers

wintry elbow
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how do i look for a static?

loud nymph
dreamy whale
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Your best bet is to PF extreme trials and then use those clears to look for a static

loud nymph
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but again

dreamy whale
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Statics usually want concrete results so

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Logs and such

loud nymph
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it is important to emphasize that this is challenging content

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and you will have a very difficult time if you just jump immediately into the deep end

versed kayak
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I feel like you're vastly underestimating the difficulty of savage content from your experience with casual content

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you can ask Moomoo here how big of a jump high end content is

wintry elbow
loud nymph
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have you ever done an extreme trial synced

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if not

dreamy whale
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Also yeah i have 500 hours and i barely maintain a 70% gcd uptime (im learning and practicing)

loud nymph
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start there

wintry elbow
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where do i find an extreme trial synced?

loud nymph
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PF

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there will be a new one with the patch in december

versed kayak
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Unlock them from the minstrel in tuliyollal first

loud nymph
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you can either wait until then

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or look for learning parties for the existing ones now

wintry elbow
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pf means again?

loud nymph
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party finder

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the ingame tool

wintry elbow
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ok

dreamy whale
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For point of reference, it took my group 6 days of progression to beat a level 50 extreme synced

pine holly
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Usually the most recent extreme is a good starting point for high end

loud nymph
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you will need to look for learning parties because the farm parties will all be locked to duty complete, meaning if you haven't actually cleared the fight, you won't be able to join those parties

versed kayak
# wintry elbow where do i find an extreme trial synced?

But before that, check the balance for your jobs opener and rotation
Understand how your rotation works
Get some potions
Get some current raid food
Learn some raiding basics like clockspots

Then watch a guide for the extreme you wanna do
And then jump into a PF for it that's starting fresh

dreamy whale
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Oh lemme

versed kayak
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Do not just join a random mount farm PF, or one that's at a later point in a fight than you are

dreamy whale
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I like rinon they make good content

versed kayak
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I guess the first isn't a concern since it'd be duty complete, I'm dumb

dreamy whale
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So whats the situation with this person did they buy a story/level skip

loud nymph
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this is the 2nd or 3rd time I've seen them asking about wanting really cool swords so maybe they just really like swords

dreamy whale
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Soview what job do you play

wintry elbow
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just an old grandpa that likes the final fantasy games 🙂

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this is my first time with ff 14, started in may

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pld

dreamy whale
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The A Realm Reborn relic is really cool

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The gold saucer has some interesting stuff and the pvp area has great stuff for paladin

loud nymph
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zantetsuken doesn't come from the odin trial

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it's from the odin fate

dreamy whale
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Oh mb

wintry elbow
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i got the first sword lol, now was looking to get the other one

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so Kinger you already did help me a lot

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thank you

versed kayak
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I'd probably recommend just grinding the Occult Crescent relic

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It'll be BiS at the end of the expansion

loud nymph
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if you wanna get into high end content definitely start by just practicing your rotation etc in normal content, do it till your eyes bleed, till you don't have to stare at your bars and don't have to think about what to do next

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read the balance guides for your job

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practice more

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start doing extremes

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they're a good way to bridge the gap between normal and savage raids

wintry elbow
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i don't even know what rotation means, i have been second tank in the fights

loud nymph
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rotation is the order you press your buttons in during combat

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for maximum damage

wintry elbow
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oh, yah. a few people in the game has helped me with that

dreamy whale
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This one is pretty cheap on the marketboard, 100k on famfrit

loud nymph
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for PLD it is pretty straightforward, the main issue comes with avoiding drifting your ogcds and making sure you get all your heavy hits in under FoF

dreamy whale
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I would level pld up but erm

wintry elbow
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my sword right now is the level 750 one, the Historia sword

loud nymph
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you can upgrade that to 760 with the evercharged esther you can buy with hunt currency

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can also work on the dawntrail relic which is also 760 (for now)

daring pine
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kinger guess what

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the vpr blacklisted me

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lol?

wintry elbow
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i thought i had to do savage to get the evercharged esther

loud nymph
dreamy whale
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Might take a bit

loud nymph
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which is the patch we got last week

daring pine
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blacklisting me when im not doing anything wrong is crazy

dreamy whale
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Hi marce

daring pine
tulip wraith
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oof

loud nymph
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but you formed the party so clearly that is all your fault and no one else's

daring pine
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but good riddance ig

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yes definitely not the other dps that were eating shit

loud nymph
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poor marce taking on the sins of all dps

wintry elbow
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ok, i will look into getting hunt currency, that might be easier

daring pine
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also the sch kept going to my spot during stonefang

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so that was

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something

dreamy whale
loud nymph
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how hard is it for supports to go left looking at boss

daring pine
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too hard sorry

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like dude just go to the other side of the marker

loud nymph
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like I would kinda get it if it's the wind/stonefang that happens after beckon b/c that one is always a little monkaSTEER

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but

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that first one

daring pine
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literal first mechanic of the fight

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lol

dreamy whale
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Oh yea i did Aitascope today and I’m improving my tank gameplay

daring pine
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lmao, even

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at least its not that whm that just straight up died to stonefang repeatedly

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:)

loud nymph
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fun fact you can fit 2 people on the same side of the marker on stonefang

daring pine
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dont ask me how

loud nymph
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it's tight but you can

dreamy whale
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I managed to look at a cast name and be like “oh i go right”

daring pine
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thaaaat crazyt

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its just tight

dreamy whale
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Cause it was like “left side firaga”

daring pine
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but the windfang cleaves are fucking tiny holy moly

loud nymph
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windfang is much scarier ye

pale blade
daring pine
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i've actually had the cleave miss me after eminent reign because the healer was an inch to my left

pale blade
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Yeah like

versed kayak
pale blade
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Windfang at the beginning of the fight is much more forgiving

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If he casted Stonefang you better pray for later

loud nymph
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My butthole is always a little clenched in that second wing/stonefang

dreamy whale
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Djura how come you’re not blue

loud nymph
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Because if someone eats shit then you're eating shit on the tracking tremors

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and then it's back to square one

dreamy whale
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Oh also what are the chances i can ignore the body check on the stormblood extremes at level 91 on warrior

daring pine
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ok nvm i dont think the vpr blacklisted me

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it just wasnt letting me join before

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odd

dreamy whale
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What if they blacklisted you but then they checked logs and unblacklisted you

daring pine
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idk maybe

dreamy whale
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Its so crazy to me being almost max level

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Like i went from barely surviving against a turtle to being able to one tap stuff that gave me trouble before

loud nymph
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other than susano ofc

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you ain't soloing that

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like for example I think tsukuyomi ex was "soloable" at 90 but you had to get really lucky with meteors

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but it's much more doable at 100

dreamy whale
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Okok

undone tide
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raiding again is making me remember why i retired

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i’m WASHED

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what do you mean i can’t remember mechanics after being away from them for 4 months

rapid whale
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mood

undone tide
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i think i’m going to try to reprog dsr in my spare time

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i still can’t get over how weird it feels not having a big fight to chase

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even though its been that way since i cleared fru

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7.5 please please please have ult

jolly flume
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yeah idk I've just been like

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existing in the game with no real motivation to do anything

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bc there's nothing I can really set as a goal that would realistically challenge me rn, it's all just plain old grind

trim frost
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yeah

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once you reach the top where do you go from there

amber fable
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The bottom

raw sand
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Gpose

dapper zealot
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Started grinding mats to make and sell some crested sets

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make back some money after spending double what I should have on materia fixing my half-assed melds

raw sand
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it may be worthwhile to stockpile a lil since new content coming end of Dec iirc

rapid whale
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if you dont have 999 of every single dt and ew mat what are you even doing /s

trim frost
raw sand
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Its more of the time commitment sigh

rapid whale
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you just have too much self respect to subject yourself to ulti pf theres a DIFFERENCE

amber fable
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True

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Spending more time for party filling

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Is no bueno

rapid whale
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my worst exp so far has been 6 hrs wait for 3 pulls tyfp lmao

raw sand
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sobbin

undone tide
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you MUST get 100 on every fight

raw sand
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brain damage

amber fable
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Thats not top..thats just wasting life

dapper zealot
amber fable
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I will just get 7.4 scrip

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And make do with basic melds

dapper zealot
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almost finished penta melding my crafters minus tools

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just need two more command materia

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mhmm getting revisit on legendary node

jolly flume
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I've just been out of inspiration for like

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months

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lol

rapid whale
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sure the 7.5 ultimate will save dawn trail

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surely

jolly flume
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wolfgirl race will save the game

raw sand
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honestly... same

jolly flume
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I was thinking about doing a set with holo in the first zone of alexandria or something a while back then never got around to it because I got sidetracked by the dsr group I'm running

tawdry delta
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Warring against gamerescape is hard work

daring pine
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@rapid whale @loud nymph i saw beckon

rapid whale
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hell ya

daring pine
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adds was pretty smooth after we did a little communication

rapid whale
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very nice

daring pine
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30 pulls tonight

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gg

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getting there

craggy marsh
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And I howl

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At the PF

rapid whale
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Will you doooooo the mech

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I have salt from every wipe I see

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There is no other parties to join save me

craggy marsh
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SO PREPARE

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IF YOU DARE

wicked delta
thin fox
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how do i do the alliance raid again

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man thank god the sub-raid level gear is weekly locked in the alliance raid

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i was so worried that people have acces to shitty gear

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now i know they're randomly rate limited

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they should make it so you can only log in weekly too

thin fox
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believe it when i see it

worn bluff
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they gonna dalamud again

amber fable
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Gonna see it before believing it

worn bluff
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i thought DT was supposed to be the reset

shadow pilot
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FF14-2

worn bluff
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add FFX-2 combat with dress spheres

amber fable
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What cutting edge tech is what I am wondering

trim frost
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AI 🙂

amber fable
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Maybe its the buff cap removal..

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Ai for tuning content with quantum style scaling

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I wouldnt mind tech like that

worn bluff
thin fox
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pf is already ai generated players though

amber fable
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Just need a plogon to add 7 ai players

thin fox
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oh thesell be nice once the glam restrictions are lifted

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these are the striking bottoms from the final san doria boss

pale blade
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Maybe I should make an effort to collect the other Sandy Oreo gear

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But I finally decided to go to Anemos for the upcoming Glamageddon

lyric summit
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no way a "fairly big announcement" at fanfest POGGIES

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probably the least exciting combination of words possible

tawdry delta
lyric summit
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no its gonna be some dumb side system where you dont actually level up in the normal sense

tawdry delta
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So lv 110 in all but name

lyric summit
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like phantom levels

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that one comment from a few months back where he said "big changes are coming but people scared of change can rest assured nothing will change 😃 " makes me cope/doom that its gonna be some weirdo hybrid of phantom actions for all jobs where you get new skills but they can only be used in high end content or something

worn bluff
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more build variety through traits/modifiers (but people will just gravitate to whatever is considered bis anyways)

brisk scarab
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FF16 has been so fun so far

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I genuinely like the combat. I personally think some of the combat moves are basically useless, but I enjoy a lot of the fight mechanics

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And holy fuck some of the fights + music gave me genuine chills

worn bluff
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it’s a good game

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i wish there was more of a party system

distant knoll
brisk scarab
# worn bluff i wish there was more of a party system

Same, I think they wanted to make up for that with the whole || Can take the essence of primals and use their power system || But if they intergrated the ff7 remake system with the switching, it wouldve been so fun

pale blade
#

with a special guest appearance by Hideo Kojima

distant knoll
#

finally, ff14 is a hideo game

thin fox
loud nymph
#

"wuk lamat is now a permanent member of the cast and when she isn't on screen all the other characters will be asking 'where's wuk lamat?'"

visual geyser
#

I’m confident the 7.4 glamour change was gonna be a 8.0 addition

spice path
#

He says 'the game will suggest to you what to do based on the time you tell it you have to play'... thats AI...
And I want nothing to do with it lol
Hes also talking about exchanging tombstones for glam gear... bitch 450 isn't enough for GEAR gear.

amber fable
#

Who says it has to be capped tomes

amber fable
#

Which 3rd party mods already do anyway

#

If it meant average df andy isnt glue sniffing stroke sufferer then I am all for it

spice path
#

He was talking about capped tomes specifically.

lyric summit
#

how is reccomending content based on time played AI AINTNOWAY

#

is it ai when the achievement menu shows you achievements nearing completion

#

or using the reccomended gear button

daring pine
#

when's the fanfest again

lyric summit
#

april

daring pine
#

damn

wicked delta
spice path
lyric summit
#

you can literally make a numbered list, 1 hour? do dungeon. 2 hours? do alliance raid. 3 hours? do savage reclears.

zealous meteor
#

the devs can just assign an expected completion time to content

lyric summit
#

things can be made without ai lmao

visual geyser
#

Unless you think a human manually did all 1500 edits to the 7.3 cutscene

#

Or manually upgraded the grass and foliage in every zone

lyric summit
#

what 1500 edits

#

like sure its possible they use ai, but its also possible to do those things with well set up systems worryass

amber fable
#

Game use ai

visual geyser
#

The animation lady said there was 1500 variations for the action cutscene this patch

amber fable
#

Games have been using those since ages

visual geyser
#

And it’s was automated because ofc it was

#

Still had to manually edit a few things tho

lyric summit
#

you open world editor, paint rough strokes where vegetation should be, have the engine put grass there, its a feature of the engine

amber fable
#

I dunno man

#

Ai as a tool is very useful

lyric summit
#

automation doesnt default to "AI"

amber fable
#

Provided you use it properly

#

Just seeing word ai and seething is stupid

visual geyser
#

Yea pretty much

lyric summit
#

i think they showed something about having a new system for scaling the face animation bones between races or something, during DT fanfests

amber fable
#

Yes

visual geyser
#

Yeah that probably is what allowed Viera and hroth to wear hates

lyric summit
#

calling every automated system ai is cringe

amber fable
#

More bones or something

spice path
#

Automation =/= ai

pale blade
#

hwat

#

AI as a tool to aid others is potentially useful, AI as a means of replacing humans at jobs is not

remote gate
#

does fisher provide any special materials needed for raiding gear or just for alchemy/culinarian?

pale blade
#

The main thing is levinchrome aethersands

#

Actually levinchromes will be used for literally everything

#

So stock up

dapper zealot
#

You can get it with min and btn

remote gate
#

if its just aethersand then I can stock up on those easy with btn/mnr

pale blade
#

Yeah you can get them with MIN/BTN but I personally prefer FSH as they are not on a timer

remote gate
#

sure it's nice to have another method but leveling fisher is gonna take a bit

dapper zealot
#

I just hate fishing

tired egret
#

I like fishing

remote gate
#

i dont dislike fishing at all i just dont like leveling the job because it can't be braindead power leveled in the diadem like min/btn could

visual geyser
#

I dislike not having enough space on my hot bar for fisher

random needle
#

Have one bar for normal fishing and another bar for spearfishing

trim frost
#

honestly smart

#

i have just barely enough to fit everything i use on one bar except for like cast light bc who the fuck is using cast light

tired egret
#

isn't that good for FSH?

trim frost
#

apparently it's good for exp yeah

#

i never did it until i was maxed though

loud nymph
#

but obviously you can only do it every 2 hours

remote gate
amber fable
#

Just fish

#

You can max it 1-100 in a day

trim frost
#

yeah if you just Do Fishing it's good exp

#

you don't need to rely on diadem/etc

tired egret
#

actually yeah

#

Fishing in general...

#

gives INSANE EXP

#

I actually had it as the first job I maxed out in general

#

even before a DoW/DoM job

#

however that was with Road to Lvl buff

#

so take that as you will

amber fable
#

I got it 1-60 in 2 hours or so

#

In ft

#

Without xp buff

#

That was with leves though

dreamy whale
#

You can also level fishing passively through ocean fishing

#

Just do other stuff and then every 2 hours get on the boat

zealous meteor
#

get on the fucking boat shinji

loud nymph
#

a realm reborn reborn

random needle
#

I saw someone question if that was an accurate translation or not, but I'm kinda trying not to assume anything about what's gonna happen next

torn mesa
#

it's shocking how many times people try to assume what he says

#

only to be disappointed when the actual announcement happens

trim frost
#

i will make up an unrealistic expectation in my head and then become viscerally angry when said expectation is not met

dapper zealot
#

Just give me a bunch of qol

visual geyser
#

Rival wings roulette incoming bros

jolly flume
#

do you think they even remember it exists

versed kayak
#

it's in mogtome sometimes, so apparently

dapper zealot
#

Let me queue multiple roulettes

versed kayak
#

tbh that one I kinda understand not doing, probably a massive pain to match that

jolly flume
#

before that how about they let us queue as role instead of job drained

dapper zealot
#

Yes

#

Very specific to oce but it's stupid alliance parties can't queue ar roulette

loud nymph
jolly flume
#

how about they just make the game good

versed kayak
#

yes pls

loud nymph
#

and stop allowing dipshits to queue as classes

versed kayak
#

had a THM in longstop the other day because they got skill issued by the solo duty

jolly flume
#

like fuck it just give me

#

an entire patch of no content

#

where they slap qol on everything that needs it

#

and I'll just not play the game

#

thanks

loud nymph
#

I would honestly be ok with this, odd patches usually have such minimal content anyway

versed kayak
#

the clickbait YouTubers would love that

#

they'll milk "game dead" for an entire year

jolly flume
#

this game does the weirdest things

#

why does my pf window automatically close when someone joins

loud nymph
#

clickbait YouTubers get ammo for their clickbait
We get actual QoL

Everybody wins

visual geyser
#

QOL patch namazuconcern

dapper zealot
#

Small thing that's been annoying me lately is swapping gearsets outside of sanctuaries messes it up and reverts your portrait to default

jolly flume
#

small thing that's been annoying me forever is swapping gearsets in general

jolly flume
#

why can't I swap jobs with my weapon drawn 105_ICANT

versed kayak
torn mesa
#

the portrait system looks amazing compared to the friends list

versed kayak
#

and then they add this dumb fucking popup that you can't turn off because then it doesn't update your portrait at all, instead of doing the sensible thing and updating your portrait without confirmation

jolly flume
#

like trust me I would love to play this game with 0 plugins instead of 54

#

if the game was functional without those 54 plugins

torn mesa
#

erm actually

#

the game is functional

jolly flume
#

yes

loud nymph
#

I've never even tried that

#

that's hilarious

zealous meteor
#

....i can?

torn mesa
#

have you ever tried crafting kinger

zealous meteor
#

if i unsheathe them with Z and then click a gearset it switches my job

jolly flume
#

hit a dummy, queue pops, you have to exit combat stow your weapon and then swap

torn mesa
#

and this scenario happens: you're making a material for a piece on 1 crafter

loud nymph
torn mesa
#

you finish the craft, try to switch to the other crafter job

dapper zealot
#

Oh that's why I can't swap gearsets right after combat, I haven't sheathed yet

torn mesa
#

yeah yeah

#

exactly

dapper zealot
#

I thought it was some shitty cooldown

loud nymph
#

it's one reason why I have simple tweaks

torn mesa
#

without simpletweaks

#

it's so bad

loud nymph
#

that little "stop crafting" button

#

is mandatory

dapper zealot
loud nymph
#

I never ran into this with combat jobs though hence my surprise

jagged aspen
#

💀 theyve been doing it the entire dungeon

jolly flume
#

white mages

loud nymph
jolly flume
#

not all white mages but always a white mage

jagged aspen
#

qarn

loud nymph
#

ah rip

jagged aspen
#

so nice getting 300 hp back when i have 2000

loud nymph
#

was gonna say 1266 hp is still early mid arr

zealous meteor
#

hearing the cure sound effect in pilgrim's traverse pained
...it's feo ul neofox_bongo

jolly flume
#

she must have like 9.0 gear

#

why is her cure like 200k hp

zealous meteor
#

misgendering our king.....

versed kayak
#

it's just benediction every 3s :D it's great

zealous meteor
versed kayak
#

they got cooldown hax

zealous meteor
random needle
#

I love how if you try to use an incense while another one is already in use, the system message tells you not to be greedy, it's like Feo Ul themself is sassing you

zealous meteor
#

because they ARE

dreamy whale
versed kayak
#

equip it
save gearset
get the portrait popup
close that
re-equip gearset to apply the glam plate
get the fucking popup again

zealous meteor
dapper zealot
#

Melding my crafter gear so I have to manually change to each crafter and update my gearsets

zealous meteor
#

i love this game im spending €11/month on it's so polished

loud nymph
dapper zealot
#

Or I swapped gearsets outside sanctuaries so I have to remember to swap back to update it when I am in one

versed kayak
#

yeah I recently had the passport pic and I don't even know why

random needle
#

Reminder that the portrait pop-up warning didn't even exist until, like, 7.1

dreamy whale
#

Oh right i ticked the box to auto decline every invite to novice network

#

Am i screwed when i become a mentor

dapper zealot
#

Bruh I recently had an issue where my sage gearsets broke when I swapped from ast to sge

#

But whm to sge was fine

#

They all share the exact same gear

versed kayak
dreamy whale
#

Okok

jolly flume
#

you know you fucked up a system when there's a plugin dedicated solely to making it kind of not really work

dreamy whale
#

Hi chiyo

visual geyser
#

I use portrait fixer and it still does jack shit

jolly flume
#

it works like 75% of the time for me

visual geyser
#

I wish I could save peoples portraits

#

Some people have really nice ones

jolly flume
#

the rest of the time I still have to switch glamour plates, resave the gearset, then try to reset the portrait

#

and don't get me started on the friends list

#

I just invite people through the cwls menu now because 1) it loads faster 2) it doesn't unexplainably show people who are online as offline and vice versa, I swear the friends list is just making shit up

versed kayak
#

it's so funny how cwls are super fast

#

and the friend list takes three years for like...anything

dreamy whale
#

Lol ratfinx solo is not going well

loud nymph
#

for normal just queue in duty finder

#

you don't need to solo it all

dapper zealot
#

Please add HQ quick synthesis for anything you can trained eye

#

Bulk crafting hq is so ass

versed kayak
#

or quick synth by pointing it at a macro

#

literally anything that doesn't force to me manually craft hundreds of potions

wicked delta
#

It taking 6 million years to reply to people

#

Cus either you right click to tell or just type it out

zealous meteor
wicked delta
#

Fucking sucks when I have a regular convo via tells and I am just like bro just add me to party chat

#

This is fucking cringe

zealous meteor
#

she hadn't been online since logging out there

versed kayak
#

the social systems definitely are one of the worst for an MMO

dapper zealot
versed kayak
#

that's probably not happening or people will macro their rotations lol

loud nymph
#

yeah I'm ok with us never getting the ability to call a macro from within a macro

#

people already try to macro their rotations

#

this would make it even worse

random needle
#

Wasn't there a guy a few months ago who wanted to macro NIN mudras

loud nymph
#

yes

jolly flume
#

I need all resurrection skills to be unusable in macros

#

the instant I see any form of raise macro I want to strangle the user

random needle
#

Macro the actual inputs

dreamy whale
#

Wtf

#

Its literally 3 buttons

random needle
#

Instead of just pressing Ten Chi for Raiton

#

Of all buttons in the game, I feel like mudras might be the least macroable tbh

trim frost
#

there might actually be a plugin out there for that which is embarrassing

versed kayak
dreamy whale
#

You might be able to make it work with like…

versed kayak
#

that way everyone knows what they did

dreamy whale
#

<wait.x>

random needle
#

Nah

loud nymph
#

the reasoning was something along the lines of "it's too much for me to remember so I want a macro that will automatically change to the next mudra in the ninjutsu"

dreamy whale
#

Thats insane

trim frost
#

brother

dreamy whale
#

Not even xivcombo lets you be that lazy

trim frost
#

its six actions

#

if u cant count to six i fear there is no hope for you

jolly flume
#

mudras are on a 0.5s gcd I don't have to explain why integer-only wait values don't work

dreamy whale
#

Fair enuf

random needle
trim frost
#

yeap

#

i wonder though

#

could you macro the prepull suiton if you feel a little lazy or is that still a no-go

random needle
#

I... Guess you could, but literally why

jolly flume
#

I mean there's no particular reason not

clear plume
#

Technically I think reaction or was it the uh Pandora’s box from same creator lets you use decimals in macros but yaknow, you’re solidly in “this is just cheating” territory if you do that.

And won’t be able to play the game when plugins are down

loud nymph
#

some people just genuinely don't want to be challenged at all or experience even a little bit of friction when trying something new

#

and unfortunately we share a duty finder with them

trim frost
#

because people don't want to be challenged anymore 💔

random needle
boreal pumice
#

the 2nd boss?

random needle
#

I mean, that too, but the puzzle section there

dreamy whale
#

Don’t you only have to memorize like

#

4 of the mudras

#

Suiton, doton, katon, raiton

boreal pumice
#

i woulnt exactly call it a puzzle

clear plume
#

You really don’t even need doton

random needle
boreal pumice
#

you need to know hyotpn when under kassatu

random needle
#

They're basic puzzles, but they are puzzles nonetheless, and I swear I saw people say they needed to look up the answers

loud nymph
#

you need hyoton too because at 76+ with kassatsu it becomes your strongest attack

boreal pumice
#

yh its still not much of a puzzle , its a wee bit of reading , get a free hint so now you have 3 options

loud nymph
#

and if you're gonna do dungeons then you'd need huton and probably doton too

boreal pumice
#

skippers and ppl who didnt read need the answers

wicked delta
boreal pumice
#

how

wicked delta
#

FFXIV players ICANT

pale blade
#

they just don’t think

boreal pumice
#

you literally get a page that shows you the bottom right answer , you can speak to the npcs for hints

wicked delta
#

Yeah well bro couldn’t do it

#

He was still asking to resolve it by the time I finished up the story

#

So around 2 hours or so

pale blade
#

did he bother checking his chat logs

#

because they log it in there too

wicked delta
#

Fuck if I know

boreal pumice
#

the hardest riddle/puzzle 14 is the in arr the greatest story never told

wicked delta
#

I can’t relate to people who are illiterate

jolly flume
pale blade
#

Yeah a lot of people don’t like thinking in this game

#

They wouldn’t last outside of their circles

boreal pumice
#

they sadly invade others circles demanding other ppl change things for them

clear plume
#

Tbf it’s the consequences long term of having a msq that requires zero actual comprehension of its text, is that yaknow, you attract people who like that

#

Like it’s not like se had a history of msq making you need to be literate

dreamy whale
#

I’m bad at mechanics that need me to make quick decisions so thats why im playing more dps and healer so i can get better at it

wicked delta
dreamy whale
#

Main tank is very easy comparatively speaking i feel

wicked delta
#

Someone finally posted the solution in the chat but still

dreamy whale
#

I just stand still and eat damage

boreal pumice
#

last "puzzle" ff14 did (not including variant dungeons which is legit good for ppl who love puzzle solving reading the lore) is shb in la hee land answering what the animal is and some card games to rescue bunny girls+ ysh

wicked delta
#

SURELY you can resolve a puzzle in 2 fucking hours

#

It’s not even a real puzzle just use your fucking eyes

clear plume
#

You’d be shocked

zealous meteor
#

Consciousness is required to participate in this duty.

wicked delta
#

The great msq filter

#

Reading…???

jolly flume
#

yeah

#

why do you think nobody can clear content without a hector guide

wicked delta
#

Champions beyond the rift, heed my call! (Hector’s Extreme guides)

clear plume
#

And the amount of people who ask for video starting guides

loud nymph
#

Except, y'know, everyone

loud nymph
#

Everyone would have thought that

dreamy whale
#

Great Gubal Library (Ultimate)

clear plume
#

But yeah, ffxiv is just a game that gives thousands of hours of content without requiring much effort, don’t be surprised it attracted people incapable of that effort

loud nymph
vapid path
#

You'd think the mmo based off a jrpg would have a fanbase that would read

pale blade
#

I generally do better with condensed summaries at first

sleek moon
pale blade
#

Then I can move on to more in-depth stuff

clear plume
#

Maybe like 50% have even played one

pale blade
#

God I hate how analysis of any media is rapidly becoming a lost art

loud nymph
clear plume
#

And that includes the newer ones that also don’t require much effort in puzzle solving and reading comprehension to beat like ff13

jolly flume
#

ok i'm actually curious

vapid path
#

That is true but the puzzles in this game aren't even hard

#

They give you the answer half the time

jolly flume
#

the only other FF I've ever played is 16 so if I were to play only one other

#

which should it be

loud nymph
#

So because there's no failure states in normal content, people never have to sit down and try to improve

loud nymph
sleek moon
#

How do you feel about turn based and adjacent systems?

jolly flume
#

no particular issue with it if it's not dogshit

like persona put me to sleep but that's not because it's turn based it's because tartarus is comabait

dreamy whale
#

Turn based is good but my issue with turn based combat is that difficulty tends to just mean “bigger number”

loud nymph
#

X has the advantage of voice acting which none of the games before it have

random needle
#

I think even fans of Persons (and 3 in particular) tend to agree that Tartarus is weak

dreamy whale
#

I have a friend who says I’m playing turn based games wrong if I play them on normal difficulty

sleek moon
#

Like the only FF that I think is genuine unplayable dogshit is ff2, the rest are enjoyable enough

dreamy whale
#

When thats the difficulty the devs intended

rain geode
#

Tartus is rough

pale blade
vapid path
worn bluff
loud nymph
#

the DS remake of FF4 from a while back was also good

dreamy whale
#

He loves pokemon

sleek moon
#

Ff15 and 7 remake have a more modern feel

pale blade
#

lmao

quick verge
#

the game that siphons money from xiv

#

but can’t make money

sleek moon
#

More like ATBslop

pale blade
#

So would you say Expedition 33 is Frenchslop

zealous meteor
#

i think this entire server should be banned from using the word slop

quick verge
#

play a real jrpg

worn bluff
#

i love it uwucarby

pale blade
#

no wait that's just kissing with tongue

vapid path
#

I forgot rebirth existed ngl

pale blade
#

fuck

zealous meteor
#

what if i killed all of you.

vapid path
#

Killslop

dreamy whale
#

All I’m saying is that if the devs wanted me to play on the hard difficulty they wouldn’t have put a little bit of text next to normal difficulty that says “this is the intended way to play”

jolly flume
#

I play most of my games on normal difficulty unless it becomes too obviously easy to the point that it's boring

worn bluff
#

FF7 and FFX are also some of my favorites but i still loved rebirth

quick verge
#

ff7 ICANT

#

play a good ff game like 8

#

or 5

#

or 6

#

or 9

dreamy whale
#

I play most games on normal but stealth games I play on hard

rain geode
#

Or 6

#

or 7

dreamy whale
#

I’m about to be crucified for my opinion

sleek moon
#

Bitch

loud nymph
#

ff8 is just drawslop

dreamy whale
#

My favorite FF games are 12 and 13

worn bluff
#

i mean i liked 8 and 9 too i just like 7 and 10 more

sleek moon
#

Junctionslop

rain geode
#

I have never played a normal FF game to completion

worn bluff
#

also X-2’s story sucked but the battle system was good

loud nymph
#

have fun spending 90% of the game in the junction and gf menus

dreamy whale
#

Gambits were the best battle system they ever made

zealous meteor
#

play ff12

sleek moon
#

Super engaging gameplay like smash square during the 8 mins CGI animation of Eden

quick verge
#

no joke

worn bluff
quick verge
#

just rail that shit

loud nymph
#

and saving/loading before games of triple triad in case rulesets you don't like begin spreading

dreamy whale
#

I started playing 9 and then never made any story progress

#

SMH jump rope has consumed me

loud nymph
#

9 is very good but tetra master is impenetrable

wicked delta
dreamy whale
#

BG3 if it was woke

#

Transder’s Gay 3

worn bluff
#

i liked how FF9 was inspired by dawntrail

wicked delta
#

Gale and Astarion started kissing in front of me for like 20 minutes in Act 3

#

DEI game

dreamy whale
#

You can sleep with a wildshaped druid

#

Clearly the lefties are furries

loud nymph
jolly flume
zealous meteor
dreamy whale
#

How are you

wicked delta
#

😭

jolly flume
#

im a zoomer who grew up on shooters

dreamy whale
#

Are you one of the rich furries

jolly flume
#

if I can't point and click my problems away

#

it's too hard

loud nymph
#

click fireball

#

point at enemies

#

click cast

zealous meteor
#

self-proclaimed "mentor" when any video game:

loud nymph
#

enemies go away

wicked delta
#

He took like

quick verge
#

doesnt bg difficulty scale inversely to brain strength

worn bluff
#

i’m just picturing chiyo breaking his legs every time he jumps somewhere in BG3

wicked delta
#

30 minutes to get off the nautiloid

loud nymph
#

how

clear plume
#

Ff12 with mods is exceptional @dreamy whale

Used to speedrun the game pre ZA release

jolly flume
#

I THOUGHT SHE SAID TO FIND THE THING NEXT TO HER

wicked delta
#

Because he tried to fight Zhalk and failed spectacularly

jolly flume
#

Oh

#

yeah that happened

clear plume
#

Planetary age is a great replay reason if you haven’t in a while

boreal pumice
#

thats fair tbh

dreamy whale
#

Why would I ever mod that masterpiece

wicked delta
#

Also yeah he could not figure out how to free Shadowheart until I told him

jolly flume
#

I would've won but the backup came and I noped out

wicked delta
boreal pumice
#

but you can beat zhalk if your smart

vapid path
#

Masterpiece is definitely a word to use for that

loud nymph
vapid path
#

Might not be the right one but it is a word

dreamy whale
#

12 is hands down the best game in the series

#

Closely followed by 13

jolly flume
#

you gotta try

worn bluff
#

12 is single player 11

boreal pumice
#

its free exp and getting the sword is neat so you dont need to micro mange dipping sword

wicked delta
#

He didn’t

#

Know

#

About command drop

jolly flume
#

yeah i didn't know shit

wicked delta
#

He just started beating the shit out of Zhalk with no plans

jolly flume
#

I just went nah id win

wicked delta
loud nymph
jolly flume
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no

wicked delta
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No

dreamy whale
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Where do i unlock alexander savage is it in mor dhona

boreal pumice
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another strat you can do is getting the tanks place them around the command + mindflayer igni boom

wicked delta
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Well

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The mindflayer

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Died

vapid path
dreamy whale
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Nvm answered my own question

wicked delta
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And Zhalk one tapped Shart

jolly flume
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you're speaking a foreign language to me

dreamy whale
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Nah best kh game is birth by sleep

wicked delta
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So this guy dipped

vapid path
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Not chain of memories,so, real

jolly flume
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all I know is mainhand weapon attack and fireball

worn bluff
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give chiyo a raid plan for this boss

dreamy whale
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CoM is just balatro but disney

boreal pumice
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yh i dont think your friend is a thinker , like you could bless mindflayer and hope the stun works

wicked delta
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“Hey yknow you can use other spells than fireball”
“Where are they”

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Literally on the right side of the fucking hotbar

sleek moon
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12 is a game I played and I couldn't tell you a single thing about the story, and that has never happened with any other FF game

wicked delta
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Chiyo Shiomi my favorite streamer

dreamy whale
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Whattt

visual geyser
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Ff16 is a top 5 ff game

boreal pumice
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i still hate the default for any elf character is fireball and that it scales off int

sleek moon
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All the political crap went through one ear and left through the other

wicked delta
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Shadowheart is fucking stupid so she misses often

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Lmao

dreamy whale
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Maybe it’s because i grew up on 12

boreal pumice
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and trickey is a shit domain

wicked delta
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I always respec her

jolly flume
zealous meteor
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maybe i should play ff12 more

dreamy whale
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My first video games were FF12, KH2, and Burnout 3 on the PS2

jolly flume
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don't ask wulfie about the time I played sekiro

zealous meteor
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unfortunately im busy discord and driving

zealous meteor
dreamy whale
wicked delta
zealous meteor
dreamy whale
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I used to play the fuck out of ATS

wicked delta
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Nah fr I thought he was ragebaiting by intentionally acting clueless

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He just IS

dreamy whale
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Thats how I found out I get highway hypnosis

jolly flume
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there is nothing in my head

worn bluff
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is FF14 the only game chiyo is good at

zealous meteor
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i can be trusted with truck simulators

wicked delta
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At this point probably

jolly flume
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I was pretty good at r6 siege

jolly flume
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but nowadays

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yeah

wicked delta
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I was like

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This dude needs

jolly flume
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I lost my zoomer reactions

wicked delta
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The yellow paint everywhere

jolly flume
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so now I only play easy games for babies

wicked delta
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And subway surfers

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Or he cant play

tame shuttle
dreamy whale
jolly flume