endgame-lounge

[daring pine]

how've you managed that then

[zealous meteor]

by not paying attention to the cooldown

me when i fuck up the two button rotation

[loud nymph]

meow

[wicked delta]

stop meowing

[dapper zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/meow-cat-gif-27161697

[sly basin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-mitosis-gif-5938797153464928683

[rain geode]

Meow

[austere ocean]

Everytime I saw you, I always have the whm chiyo in my head rotating like you are in a microwave

You need that cringe macro too

[tidal topaz]

Can someone help us with E4S for the mount?

PF is up on Crystal!

[sleek moon]

every whm accusation is a confession

[rapid whale]

I confess to having played whm before

[sick dirge]

i confess to being a stubborn wh*te mage main for a whole year

[whole estuary]

Every Plenary Indulgence grants Confession

[dapper zealot]

I keep reading the skill as planetary indulgence for some reason

[thin tartan]

i thought the same

[raw sand]

uh oh

[true beacon]

https://youtu.be/ZiL_bJpI01Y?si=XB8xuMjmwZoV5k3_
@eager jackal

[craggy marsh]

I called Amdapor "Ampador" for 10 years

[dapper zealot]

I still call it that

[fresh creek]

Not sure if this counts as endgame, but what’s generally the best combo for this?

[pale blade]

Do you plan to use it in like

Ultimates

Because iirc the 70 Ultimates want different distributions

[fresh creek]

At this point in the game yea

[jolly flume]

lmao dude

me and my friend joined a see p5 for 500k merc party for dsr

we 1 pull it to p6 wroth

make that 1 mil baby

free money

for 15 mins of effort

[torn kindle]

AKA the cryptid known as SpS SMN

[lavish kettle]

What's SpS?

[torn kindle]

Spell speed, along with SkS being skill speed

[alpine plover]

chiyo shiomi

[wicked delta]

Chiyo Shiomi

[worn bluff]

and sks RPR

[torn kindle]

Sounds evil, is that also specific to level 70 content

Or does this monstrosity also exist at 100

[worn bluff]

i did in TEA just to meme

[sleek moon]

doing PT on SMN with that haste pomander on is kinda disgusting

[worn bluff]

it ended up feeling really uncomfortable

i hated it

[torn kindle]

It sounds like it could be ok for 70 content, but I dislike the lack of charges on the +50 blood skill

[worn bluff]

i don't think sks RPR is a serious thing other than in 70 ulti

because you have nothing

[torn kindle]

Basically just 123 and gibbit/gallows

[spice path]

Reaper under 90 is aweful. And i main reaper. My static did mine E8S last weekend and I wanted to pull my hair out it was so bad.

[jade nimbus]

I mean, any new job under the level they start at are awful

SE really doesn't care, which is always funny considering a selling point is also 'do any content at any time'

[wicked delta]

Reaper has it worse

Than likr

[jade nimbus]

But also 'hope you do it with a job that didn't get fucked by all the future changes or isn't new'

[wicked delta]

Picto

Picto is actually relatively playable at almost all levels

Reaper is just fucking cooked lmfao

[spice path]

Well reaper starts at 70. But id say everything under 50 and then after that, anything below the lvl cap for the expac it was introduced.

[jade nimbus]

It is pretty noticeable in both vpr and rpr

[wicked delta]

Meeeee

[pale blade]

shout-out to that one Reaper main whose progress I track out of spite

[alpine plover]

reapers in uwu

and tobi when he pvps in choatic

[wicked delta]

My BAD

[robust shoal]

shoutout to the time I got r1 rpr in uwu and the purple nin gapped me

[spice path]

Mee. Blue and purple parsing but still last in dps cause the rest be pink parsing.

But literally how can I do better. I hit da buttons on time.

[worn bluff]

they knew exactly what RPR needed to be more fun. and then put it into PCT and VPR

motifs are just soulsow but better

[wicked delta]

It hurts to read this

You’re right

But it hurts

[torn kindle]

Literally that Chinese meme of monk vs machinist IIRC

[wicked delta]

Me when I have the 5 (?) second fuck you stand still button

[worn bluff]

it is fun to find spots to cast it in downtime but you don't really get that much actual benefit out of it

[rapid whale]

https://tenor.com/view/edgy-tough-edgy-guy-tough-guy-edgy-guy-gif-12025149

[spice path]

I use soulsow one (1) time per fight unless there is 5+ seconds of downtime where I can plant. Which is almost never. All of reapers range filler being cast (unless you can time gluttony or perfectio) unless you use ingress or egress is ass... but I love the job at the same time. I can do perfect rotations most of the time w/o looking at my bars. It looks badass. I just wish it hit harder.

[rapid whale]

https://tenor.com/view/holes-grandpa-thats-too-damn-bad-gif-15698581

become a meta slave /s

[torn kindle]

Me as a WHM Enjoyer

[rapid whale]

https://tenor.com/view/why-michael-scott-the-office-why-are-the-way-that-you-are-gif-5593972

[torn kindle]

I like the big GCD heals

I parse green/blue and that’s ok

[rapid whale]

me playing picto

[wicked delta]

You’re worthy of love old man

[rapid whale]

https://tenor.com/view/tyra-banks-finger-snap-sassy-antm-fierce-gif-4917492

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-mitosis-gif-5938797153464928683

[rapid whale]

yall ever just drink a bunch of water late at night and it's like you had a health potion

haha same

[rain geode]

I only drink soda

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-fn-fortnite-big-pot-big-pot-small-pot-gif-27398462

[rapid whale]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-easter-śmigus-dyngus-dyngus-day-throw-water-celebration-gif-16838652

[rain geode]

Itll be a cold day in hell before I do a single healthy thing for myself

[rapid whale]

Oh

That means you want to become a machinist one trick

Congrats on finding your main!!!

[rain geode]

Im damaged enough to consider phys ranged not damaged enough to go that far

Im unhealthy not crazy

I do have it narrowed down to like 3 in a half jobs

[trim frost]

me when i

[rapid whale]

Water in blue

[trim frost]

true

[valid solar]

super idol

https://tenor.com/view/super-idol-social-credits-zmcmtianyiming-tian-yiming-douyin-gif-23524798

[rapid whale]

i wish i was half as cool

[rain geode]

I wish I was twice as cool

actually I wish I knew what I wanted to play but oh well itll come with time, Ive made progress in that respect

[trim frost]

Super idol的笑容
都没你的甜
八月正午的阳光
都没你耀眼
热爱 105 度的你
滴滴清纯的蒸馏水

[shadow pilot]

real

based

[rapid whale]

just make a character for each job and prog the tier as every single job

[rain geode]

Im insane, Im not that insane

also isnt there more then 20 jobs now

[rapid whale]

https://tenor.com/view/just-do-it-shia-la-beouf-do-it-gif-4531935

[remote gate]

create my fantasic and wonderful weapons

yes yoshi P

1500 tomestones

no, yoshi P

[zealous meteor]

they genderbent sapph

[visual geyser]

I forgot female hroths even existed

[remote gate]

holy shit kimahri in ffxiv

[random needle]

[visual geyser]

I like them

I’d play one but I don’t use alts

[zealous meteor]

could always fanta

[visual geyser]

I’d rather use anam

[zealous meteor]

cursed

[visual geyser]

There’s no reason to play alts in this game but I still wish this game had the war bands feature

[jolly flume]

my alt exists to curb my fantasia addiction

[visual geyser]

It’ll be a little better with no level restrictions on glam

[loud nymph]

wtf I love g'raha now

[craggy marsh]

My alts exist so I can erp without anyone knowing about it

[rain geode]

https://tenor.com/view/why-didn't-i-think-of-that-mrboss-smiling-friends-frowning-friends-of-course-gif-14810131280811766713

[craggy marsh]

[zealous meteor]

Seiryu will morph to a random player and begin a doubled-up version of Onmyo Circle
random player huh
i got targeted literally every time

[rain geode]

probably comfirmation bias when we did it together I know for a fact it targetted me at least once

[jolly flume]

just don't do the mechanic

it's optional

[loud nymph]

Seiryu just wants you to go out then in then out then in then out then in then out

[random needle]

Outward and in and then outward and in and then go outward and in then put one foot outward

[vapid path]

Sorry you no longer exist sapph

[jade nimbus]

Ngl, this looks so ass, ngl

[whole estuary]

glad simple and clean is the in game one

[rain geode]

Its the hair I use 🙂

[loud nymph]

good God it really does

https://tenor.com/view/it's-ass-it's-ass-its-ass-its-gif-1464540040348414609

[visual geyser]

It looks nice on certain races

Shit haircut tho

[sly basin]

me when i havent played animal crossing in a few months

[jade nimbus]

Ye, on lala it looks fine

[random needle]

https://tenor.com/view/science-explode-prank-gif-11618963

I imagine that is what your hair looks like after this happens to you

[brisk scarab]

Just bought FF16 and got chills watching that || dragoon || enter the fight

[grim parcel]

Ff16 is goated

[worn bluff]

dont let sebbywebby hear you say that

he'll go on a 5 min long tirade

[grim parcel]

idc ff16 is goated bro

[zealous meteor]

never too much feo ul

[rain geode]

doing DD while ddos are afoot is scary

[jade nimbus]

ff16 is a || good|| game

carried by aura, and cool cutscenes too, writing is a bit weak

[zealous meteor]

well to be fair i'm not soloing it

[jagged aspen]

but you still all dc so whats the diff

[remote gate]

does it do the same shit xiv does where you talk to three people and then continue the plot any time you arrive somewhere new

[craggy marsh]

It has the obnoxious fetch quests

[remote gate]

incredible yoshi P writing and game design

[zealous meteor]

i didn't dc

[rapid whale]

Ff16 is like

Peak cinema moments

[jade nimbus]

Ye, pretty much

It is that and then some bombastic fight and then some more fetch and npc talking

[zealous meteor]

you're just describing ffxiv

[jade nimbus]

Nah, ffxiv doesn't have the bombastic fights

They also carried over the dungeon design to ffxvi

Pretty much every dungeons is allway into fighting mobs into some bosses

[jolly flume]

ff16 is more like watching an interactive movie than playing a game

[rapid whale]

it's my favorite anime /s

[jolly flume]

which tbf so is ffxiv to an extent but it'd be a really shit movie

[jade nimbus]

So when you're human the action combat is pretty good

[remote gate]

you turn into summons right

[jade nimbus]

Smh, ffxiv is like watching a visual novel instead

[remote gate]

and when you do it's like a 2d fighter

[jade nimbus]

You turn into Ifrit for some kaiju on kaiju fight

And as human you have skills from different summons you unlock in the story

[jolly flume]

eikon combat is either playing 9S without hacking in automata or a series of qtes

[rapid whale]

you're basically a blue mage

[jade nimbus]

I would say a good version of summoner

[rapid whale]

if the wol fused summoner and rdm ig

and perma melee combo kekw

[jade nimbus]

Anyway it is a good game with a lot of cool fights

And that's kinda it

[jolly flume]

yeah

combat and story like

6-7/10 for me

carried by cinema

[true beacon]

The best fights for each style are in the dlc

[craggy marsh]

Im still confused why they have crafting in the game when the crafting system is so barebones

[true beacon]

Replayability

[craggy marsh]

But how does the crafting add replay value

[true beacon]

FF Mode lets you upgrade your gear further

[craggy marsh]

they could've atleast made the crafting good

[craggy marsh]

I mean yeah but I wouldn't say replay value is a good reason to have the barebones system

In FF mode I used skills 90% of the time

Just nuked shit and moved on

sword was just filler until skills came off CD

[jolly flume]

clive plays

exactly like an ffxiv job

which you can take however you want

but to me is a negative

well with the exception of dodging obviously but

[craggy marsh]

like if they wanted to have crafting couldn't they have made it more...interesting?

[rapid whale]

Maybe it was a system they had to cut down due to budget

[craggy marsh]

would be hilarious if so

[quick verge]

“cut down due to budget”

nah

have u seen ffxiv crafting lately

this is the best they can do

they can’t break their limit like the GOAT

faker

[jade nimbus]

Nah. They wanted people to experience the ffxiv gear treadmill

Which is to get a weapon which is good only for 1-2 fights and then replace it

[jolly flume]

[whole estuary]

add enrage to crafting

[jade nimbus]

But ye, crafting in ffxvi was tackled on probably just to say they have crafting in the marketing I guess and claim they have jrpg mechanics

[jolly flume]

wait true

if you run out of durability your character explodes

go back to limsa

[rain geode]

Isnt that what the durability bar is?

[whole estuary]

no

it just straight up kills you

[remote gate]

is xvi better than xv

[whole estuary]

they should have added it to the CE upgrade FATEs

if the upgrade fails everyone in the area just explodes

[jade nimbus]

Oh, ye, by a mile

Ffxvi was a finished game on launch to start

[rapid whale]

i heard the dlc's made 15 a lot better so it's fine now but yea

[jade nimbus]

Oh, ffxv now is fine

[remote gate]

tried to get xv to work on my pc with a boat load of mods but it ran like shit no matter what I did

[jolly flume]

I've been thinking about playing 15

[jade nimbus]

Still a middling experience too

[jolly flume]

its between that and bg3 for something to play before the tier

[remote gate]

bg3

trying to get it to properly work on pc is frustrating

[rapid whale]

should play tactics for peak writing

[jade nimbus]

I think ffxv is fun as long as you're not looking for depth in your combat or a well written story

[remote gate]

or a game that runs well

[jolly flume]

god bless steam families ngl

[jade nimbus]

Well, xv is pretty short overall, so you can probably do both

[remote gate]

ive heard that the console version runs way better so maybe ill try it that way

[rapid whale]

105 gb gaddemn

[clear plume]

Ffxv windows edition is pretty fine, it’s a decade old game you won’t struggle with it

But especially for its release it was graphically intensive for people and was a port of its ps4 version

Like the steam deck runs Xv no problems

[jade nimbus]

Doesn't help it had its own engine at the time

[rapid whale]

crystal fools

[jade nimbus]

Nah, luminos

[visual geyser]

I really get feast gear next patch

[worn bluff]

i like ff16 just that guy doesn't

i've never seen someone hate FF16 and FF7 rebirth so much

[thin fox]

i could mog that guys hatred of ff16 idc

[visual geyser]

I like ff16 bringing up in this channel greets you with a rant 90% of the time

[craggy marsh]

Erm i'll have you know-

that ff16 is peak

[visual geyser]

At times

Just not a lot of the time

[torn kindle]

FF16 has the hottest Cid

[jolly flume]

cid has aura

[loud nymph]

says you

[torn kindle]

Oh god oh fuck

[true beacon]

SoP has the sharpest Cid

[whole estuary]

He reminds me of Howl

[worldly grotto]

The guy with the moving castle?

[whole estuary]

yah

he's a fancy looking Cid

[rapid whale]

tactics advanced 2 seems cool i sh ould get around to it

[mossy eagle]

Tactics Advanced series kind of slept on tbh

[jolly flume]

walked into the last boss of the twinning

was like

this boss looks kinda familiar

now playing: locus

[zealous meteor]

yeah it's literally reverse engineered alexander

[jagged aspen]

i cant enter different regions on the same service account at the same time, right?

[jolly flume]

also I spent half the dungeon wondering why the game wouldn't let me generate a third cartridge

before remembering that level 80 jobs suck

[daring pine]

@rapid whale it's time

[zealous meteor]

gonna climb in the ring?

[jolly flume]

where inv

me bored

[rapid whale]

hell yea hav efun

m8s is a lot of fun

the first 6 minutes is zooooooom

[daring pine]

ok fine i'll inv u

[daring pine]

is that uuh

up to adds

[rapid whale]

no all of p1

[daring pine]

oh

wtf

[rapid whale]

i think its like actually 630 or something

[daring pine]

i forgot

how long is the actual fight

like

13/14 min?

[rapid whale]

i think so but like a min of that is cut scene

and p2 is mostly shakies check

[daring pine]

holy moly

is p1 harder than p2 or something

[rapid whale]

i guess the heroes blow into uv4 is kinda tough for north side

its more like

it's not uncommon to clear p2 within 5 times of seeing it

p1 is an execution and consistency check which

well you've seen m7s smile

[daring pine]

shudder

ok seems like most of these parties are on adds

so if i dont take forever to get there

yippee

[rapid whale]

the 2mins are all in comfy spots too

unlike 6 or 7

0 stress during the 2mins of p1

[daring pine]

oh thank fucking god

the only uncomfy 2m for me in 6s was like

beginning of lava

because if i try to double melee too late i get fucked

[jolly flume]

dude its actually insane

how I do two dungeons in ffxiv

and I'm ready to go to bed

like legit

already sleepy

how do ppl do this stuff

[daring pine]

hmm

if its fresh do i need to put a strat i nthe desc

i guess i should do one for milennial decay

if people can actually do eminent/rev reign

smile

[jolly flume]

I said I'll help

but I reserve the right to leave at any time if my brain damage gets too bad

[daring pine]

bro

ferring looks so ass

what the hell

[rapid whale]

smile

[daring pine]

yeah just fuck the ranged i guess

https://tenor.com/view/my-hero-academia-cosplay-todaroki-midoriya-bad-cosplay-gif-25213078

ok time to climb in the ring and see how far i get tonight

[rapid whale]

time to troll you

[daring pine]

shut up crayon eater

(derogatory)

[rapid whale]

are you starting the pf

[daring pine]

what r u even gonna

join on

[jolly flume]

fucking potd flashbacks with this song

[rapid whale]

i have viper bis

i have prange bis too smile

[jolly flume]

wtf is this place man

[random needle]

Pharos Sirius is one of the best dungeons for atmosphere in ARR, and absolute unfettered dogwater ass for gameplay

[daring pine]

ok so w/ ferring do you always pre spread to the same positions regardless of if the head spawns n or s

[rapid whale]

ya the diff is the direction you move

[jolly flume]

ns doesnt mean anything

[daring pine]

ok

[jolly flume]

aoe pattern is identical

so it doesnt change anything

[daring pine]

thanks kawaii chiyo

my waifu

[jolly flume]

gg wulfie

[rapid whale]

wtf i answered too

gg

[daring pine]

yea but ur bapple

[rapid whale]

oh true

https://tenor.com/view/milhouse-alone-windy-wind-gif-12277343

[daring pine]

if valcors answered however

[queen raft]

How does your UI look like that?

[random needle]

https://youtu.be/sTqRx-F7ZqA?si=E981kCUUwyLJFbVM

(mods)

[queen raft]

Oh

[daring pine]

@rapid whale @jolly flume ok come

https://tenor.com/view/le-goob-drum-solo-drumear-gif-17595207286354890384

[random needle]

Also I never actually looked at the raidplans for m8s

Have they shot whoever came up with Ferring Decay yet? I've never seen anything but Scorn for it

[daring pine]

it looks evil

the only thing that looks non evil is me going to the same spot every single time

but the rest of it is

um

[wicked delta]

im surprised you stayed

[jolly flume]

its bc first time lol

[wicked delta]

makes sense

shit dungeon tho

[random needle]

If I was a DNC and got put in Pharos, I'd probably just put the 30m in the bag

[jolly flume]

that was shit from an ass

who cooked that

oh my pfradar works now

wicked

[jagged aspen]

does fflogs or anything have rankings of # of clears?

[jolly flume]

uh

not that I know of

im pretty sure someone made a community sourced spreadsheet for ultimates

[jagged aspen]

ig people just do it by hand?

[jolly flume]

to that effect

[jagged aspen]

ive seen a spreadsheet for ucob somewhere

[jolly flume]

idk where it is though I saw it a while back

yknow

what if I just went in

on 730 tank

what could go wrong right

[jagged aspen]

to where 😮

[jolly flume]

like legit there's 0 reason it would matter

m8s

[jagged aspen]

uh idk could get dicey on p2 if healers are afk ig?

[jolly flume]

well it's a fresh prog so

as long as we dont make it out of p1

[jagged aspen]

oh

[jolly flume]

it should be like

0 issues

[jagged aspen]

fml join 6/8 party and it disbands within 10 minutes

[jolly flume]

im just debating if pf is more likely to grief on tank or healer

[jagged aspen]

fresh prog? def tank

[jolly flume]

yeah probably lol

[jagged aspen]

more like revolutionary reign prog

[daring pine]

how much u wanna bet im gonna get clipped by the tank

[jolly flume]

wait why do I have full 740 for tank

where did this come from

oh its bc my friend played on my acc one week

I forgor

[tropic night]

i gifted it to u

[jolly flume]

why thank you

[daring pine]

chiyo r u gonna tank or

[jolly flume]

hm

yeah

[daring pine]

ok i'll change pf one sec

[jolly flume]

you can set the other slot to any

any tank

[daring pine]

does it not matter

[jolly flume]

well I can play all of them so

its whatever

740 armor and a 730 weapon

[zealous meteor]

you have a white mage in your pf
marce are you okay

[daring pine]

they left

thank god

wait i remember that whm

[zealous meteor]

oh?

[daring pine]

wait

this guy was in my uh

i cant remember if it was m6 or m7

[jolly flume]

oh they just like me fr

wait doesnt this shit have echo now

[daring pine]

uuh

dont they give it echo when new tier drops

[jolly flume]

idk

i dont rember

[daring pine]

could have sworn they did that with lhw but

i forgot

[zealous meteor]

yeah there's no echo buff in cruiserweight it seems

unless it was added in like 7.25

nothing in 7.3x

lhw got echo in 7.21

[daring pine]

oh so cw echo is prob 7.41 then

[zealous meteor]

probably

lhw echo was 10% in 7.21, 15% in 7.25, and 20% in 7.3

[daring pine]

but cw bis is pointless

because no ult

[zealous meteor]

bis for uhhhh meso terminal

[jagged aspen]

bis for hunt train

if bis was pointless without ults, then 90% players dont need to do savage? 🤔

[jolly flume]

yeah

that's always been the case

ppl just want to see number go up even if it's for no practical reason

[jagged aspen]

thats the point 😄

game is pointless

[jolly flume]

yep

always has been

[jagged aspen]

uuh why do ppl get stuck on doth? eyes?

[jolly flume]

gaze is probably the most common

but ppl eat shit to twisters and getting lost once in a while too

bc why not

[jagged aspen]

theres like, almost no p3 parties, no p4 parties, and always a few doth parties

[jolly flume]

thats at least partially because everyone just prog lies p3 and p4 anyways

xdd

[jagged aspen]

i should take notes..

[low hearth]

gaze

[jolly flume]

ronin inanna

[rapid whale]

whomst

[jolly flume]

another white mage

[zealous meteor]

kill

[jolly flume]

zzzzzzzz

[daring pine]

zzz

[remote gate]

wake up

[daring pine]

ok pf filled

fresh m8s time

[craggy marsh]

When I climb

[jagged aspen]

dont forget ronin

[loud nymph]

in the climb

[zealous meteor]

when i in the ring
we lock eyes and that's when i realize
i am . this is me

[jagged aspen]

i cant make out any words

all i can hear is m7 "who paid for this rifle"

[true beacon]

You mean at the start?

It’s “Here on my throne, sits a pretender”

[jagged aspen]

i usually hear it somewhere on p2. looked it up, probably this part

Tonight is the night
A blood moon is risin'
One spire left to climb
My pride's on the line, yeah

[daring pine]

i have returned from climbing in the ring

[shadow pilot]

That's fast

[daring pine]

ok tomorrow after work i guess i adds prog

[vestal hollow]

what if you climbed in MY ring

[daring pine]

[jolly flume]

chat im not washed

yippee

[wicked delta]

67

[jolly flume]

🤐

[sly basin]

from talesfromdf

[torn kindle]

Lmao they think Blacklist makes you not queue into the person

[spice path]

Lol it doesn't even stop you from joining parties in pf they are in. Ended up doing reclears more then a few times with 'unknown01'

[stone flint]

I havent touched blackmage since they reworked it a couple patches ago

Is there any reason to not just spam Fire 4 now

Oh I see it still doesn’t actually give you Astral Fire, you still have to fire 3 for that

You just dont have to worry about the timer for that

[rapid whale]

https://tenor.com/view/flare-star-ffxiv-dqxi-dragon-quest-veronica-gif-12361136971588993200

[jade nimbus]

I should finish dq11

[stone flint]

I will say i’m a little confused

[jade nimbus]

Got bored alfway in

[stone flint]

BM astral fire section of the rotation has a paradox thrown in there

Why is that?

It does 540, Fire 4 with astral fire 3 does 540

They both cost 1600 mp

Do you just use it cause f it why not

Oh I see now, its so you can Transpose and use Fire 3 in astral fire 1 instead of Umbral ice 3

[tall field]

Will SE increase the buff cap from 30?

[thin fox]

no

that would be a smart, logical technical change that would address a consistent issue they have had with fights

so they won't do it

[amber fable]

#translations-and-liveletters

[stone flint]

Why tf can’t I find the Astrologian Card prio list anywhere

[thin fox]

@stone flint

[stone flint]

Thank you, and god fucking dammit Reaper mains still suffering

Square Enix making a melee dps have less burst then Dark Knight smh

That’s always annoyed me about reaper

Reapers burst is the only part where you are doing anything interesting, and its somehow the weakest part of the class

It just gets carried by having super high potency gcds

[amber fable]

its more so that its long

[stone flint]

Oh yeah

Cause reapers full burst is so long you have to start it before you even pop raidbuff

And the card only lasts 15 seconds

Never thought of it like that

[thin fox]

also reapers suck at the game

[tired egret]

can't wait to main it

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-peppo-cry-gif-22663734

[amber fable]

good time to main it was ew

[dull drum]

um actually

its kafrizzle

[dull drum]

shit made me cry a lot

[amber fable]

its what flarestar wish it was

[dull drum]

i swear dragon quest games dont get the respect they deserve

8 and 11 are like

chefs kiss

5 also epic

[jade nimbus]

The furthest I've got was I think a bit in part 2

[amber fable]

4 5 6 7 8 11

all good stuff

9

forgot that

[jade nimbus]

The thing with dq11 is that it is pretty much a troope game and sticks to them like glue, so it was a bit booring

[stone flint]

Oi

[dull drum]

the job sucks in general*

[thin fox]

theres a reason that rpr is the prange melee alt

[dull drum]

my static literally told me

dont fucking play reaper

they'll let me play anything except reaper

[amber fable]

why rpr when vpr

[dull drum]

LOL

[stone flint]

Cause Viper suck

[amber fable]

nah

vpr rules

[dull drum]

wdym viper was running CW

it bent m6s over for months

lol

[stone flint]

Viper is just pressing the same 2 buttons over and over

[dull drum]

yeah and it still does more than reaper

[thin fox]

look at this reaper stah

[dull drum]

how sad is that

[thin fox]

fucking

[dull drum]

LOL

drunk driving

holy shit

ive never seen movement like that

[thin fox]

theres a reason Im so fucking terrified to ever move in bjcc n its cuz of these melee players

[dull drum]

idk theres specimens these days

was watching my friend help with dsr p5 prog

oh my god it was so funny

everyone was getting bombed by the scholar

LMAO

[jade nimbus]

Vpr so good on trash they killed trash in criterion, smh

[spice path]

me playing reaper wow
I m1-4 in pf i never felt bad. Went mch for m5-8 cause I'm a masochist apparently... and now I'm going reaper again with a static 9-12... I've hit a dummy with all melee and get about the same dps. So either I'm a great reaper or I suck at everything else.

[rapid whale]

gear gap?

[spice path]

More or less they are all geared the same right now since all my savage gear was on phys.

[gusty oasis]

Returning player here reinstalling the game. Im on Cactuar NA Aether. Planning to main DNC or NIN.

This may be wrong place to put this but im just looking to see if there are any FCs or statics starting up looking to add raiders.

I used to play a lot but now with 2 young daughters I took a break. Id consider myself returning but also technically brand new to Dawntrail but have raided a lot in the past in statics.

[visual geyser]

#1039984999157485618 #1039986530783072336

[remote gate]

can we have a pure healer join in we are at 7/8

public pf on aether

[dull drum]

if looking for statics id check the dedicated ffxiv recruitment discords instead

[rain geode]

For ults since gear syncs down always and turns off materia are you supposed to grind out old bis?

[zealous meteor]

!faq ultimatesync

[storm frost]

Syncing Gear For Ultimates

Sufficiently high item-level gear can cap both substats when synced down. Similarly, relics with customizable stats can have substats allocated so that fewer substats are lost to the sync (see !faq ilvlsync for more info on how gear syncing works). At the bottom of this FAQ is a table of required item level to cap both stats (used for most gear slots), along with the stat caps for weapons (relevant for relic stat allocation) and the minimum potion grade needed to cap (where applicable).

https://xivgear.app supports item level sync. You can choose the character and item levels when creating a sheet. You can also use the classic calculator https://bit.ly/XIVGearSyncCalc.

[zealous meteor]

not all ults

[dull drum]

old bis not needed

[rain geode]

So no for basically every ult besides FRU

[dull drum]

yeah basically

[wicked delta]

Yeah only FRU is necessary

[zealous meteor]

and TOP if you don't have a full 760 set ig

[wicked delta]

Grinding for TOP/DSR bis is a waste of time at this point because the new tier is releasing soon anyway

[rain geode]

So the one I'd be curious in doing sometime next patch

[dull drum]

fru is in that awkward spot where its like an amalgation of

chaotic savage and dungeon gear

💀💀💀

[rain geode]

Because after I get a clear of 7.4 savage I kinda want to do Fru since the weapons are sick af

[zealous meteor]

yea for fru you'll need bis still

[jolly flume]

or hear me out

just press your buttons real good

[zealous meteor]

just go in naked

and dodge

be like mikoto in DRN and phase through every aoe and raidwide

[rain geode]

Oh well considerations for later eitherway

[dull drum]

would fru even be alive after 7.4

everyones just gonna be on the new ulti anyway

[rain geode]

Isn't the new ultimate 7.5?

[dull drum]

yeah

[zealous meteor]

surely people will still want to do the gayest ult

[rain geode]

Who knows guess I'll hope the fact it has the coolest weapons means people will still want to do it

[dull drum]

coolest weapons looks at dragoons

https://tenor.com/view/cat-macska-cica-vomit-oklendez-gif-14738230240638170539

we got screwed man

[jolly flume]

[rain geode]

I havnt seen dragons/don't remember it

[dull drum]

think i have the warrior axe pt sick

[jolly flume]

the drg one is like

short

af

for some reason

[dull drum]

yeah

[jolly flume]

top spear is peak anyways

[dull drum]

um actually statistically

most dragoons run the uwu weapon

[jolly flume]

L

[rain geode]

The fru axe in particular looks super cool

Imo

[wicked delta]

No

[jolly flume]

since when was tenka goken a circle aoe

[remote gate]

imma be honest dolls is gonna be the wall in mango and I's tea prog 💀

dolls themselves arent hard to deal with its just the bloody inconsistency of the damn things

[versed kayak]

I'm so glad I found a consistent button rotation so I don't blow up mine

[remote gate]

our viper says that he literally pushes one or two buttons and they die

[wicked delta]

I leave it up to god

I mean

[dull drum]

6.1

because the cone was too hard

[wicked delta]

I played reaper in TEA so theres only a 10% chance I kill the fucking thing anyway

[jolly flume]

am I tweaking

I swear this shit was a cone before

[dull drum]

it was

ew launch and before that

[boreal pumice]

i remeber ut as a cone because thats how fuga is b4 it upgrades to a full circle

[mortal flower]

It was.

But also cones are a stupid shape

[craggy marsh]

I LOVE JAGD DOLLS

[mortal flower]

Me missing enemies because they're too far from my target laterally

I love cones

[jolly flume]

skill issue aim it better

[versed kayak]

better than rectangles imo

[mortal flower]

Just untarget and aim that way 4head

Oh wait, you can't do that the game NEEDS a target 80% of the time

[jolly flume]

your character has legs

[mortal flower]

😡

[jolly flume]

you can

move

[craggy marsh]

Even without legs you can still move

[mortal flower]

Chicken nugget movement

[craggy marsh]

See you get it

[remote gate]

is there a soyjack that is "I LOVE TAB TARGETING"

that how it feels to tab target sometimes

[tired egret]

Virgin Dragoons run UWU Weap

Chad Dragoons run Longinus Zeta

[mortal flower]

I miss skill shot targeting 😔

[versed kayak]

whenever it's more than 3 targets I just use my "target nearest enemy" keybind that I originally made for pvp

[mortal flower]

I love just having a big fuck off aoe and going "let me line all these guys up"

Rather than just angular, wherever the center of the enemy is

[remote gate]

when im trying to switch from LL to hand it targets the fucking doll instead

[jolly flume]

click your enemy list

[remote gate]

thats what i do now

[jolly flume]

tab will never work properly

in those circumstances

[remote gate]

^^^

tea pf is shit these days btw i have to flex roles just so we can fill

[craggy marsh]

I do not use the enemy list, I do not click on the enemy, I tab target and if I don't target the right enemy then we WIPE

[remote gate]

in the very least it helps me know when i need use more mit during certain phases

[jolly flume]

just do what I did in fru

zoom into first person view

[remote gate]

also mango if i decide to go into random tea pfs and theres an OT spot do you want me to @ you

[jolly flume]

and aim your camera at the doll

so you cant possibly target anything else

[remote gate]

not during static hours mind you

[craggy marsh]

I may not always be available but ye do it anyways :3

[remote gate]

excellent

i prefer to do the fight as a tank but if i have to heal then i will

[jolly flume]

@wicked delta bg3 content soon btw

[valid solar]

guys it turns out tanking dsr is significantly more fun than playing phys range in dsr

[remote gate]

if anything healing tea is a lot of fun

[valid solar]

[jolly flume]

who could possibly have predicted this

[wicked delta]

I LOVE CONTENT

[craggy marsh]

Im tank until I die or crash out from D O L L S

[remote gate]

enjoy dolls memes i have a feeling we are gonna see this shit until the end of time

[jolly flume]

you know whats crazy

[craggy marsh]

Ya im prepared

[valid solar]

ngl prog might slow down because that wuxia mmorpg is actually really fun

I played for 6 hours straight

[jolly flume]

dolls would be free as fuck if people would just remember that they're allowed to aoe, or god forbid, drop their gcd and auto

[craggy marsh]

I'll take doll wipes if prog of other mechanics is atleast more consistent

[jolly flume]

like have you considered not sending a raiton into your doll at 40%

[valid solar]

thats cool but I think ill accidently one shot the doll with flint strike instead

[remote gate]

for prog is it acceptable for me to drop gcds so we can at least get further and recognize mechs better

[jolly flume]

how is that even a question

who cares about your gcd lol

[remote gate]

look man im trying my best here

[valid solar]

funny thing about this game is that they didnt make a seperate global player so all of us just got dumped onto the chinese playerbase and from the limited english they use in chat they do not seem to be very happy about it

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/when-you-get-to-heaven-chinese-grolemcorp-gif-432709452583547153

Tf is grolemcorp lmao

[trim frost]

我操 etc

[daring pine]

tobi

ur cute

[wicked delta]

Mobile discord you curse me once more

Ur cuter

[remote gate]

hi marce hows m8s

[daring pine]

wyd tonight

[daring pine]

good

[wicked delta]

Watching Chiyo play BG3

[daring pine]

first prog sesh last night saw adds

[wicked delta]

Cant wait for dented gameplay

[daring pine]

adds prog when i get home later

will try to get friends to join

the whm last night was uh

something

[remote gate]

hoping you get good gacha luck and pull 5* players just trying to have fun and clear ppl before 7.4

[daring pine]

idk i have an entire month and i’ll be progging every day

i think i can manage

[remote gate]

idk it took a month and a half to clear 7s

[daring pine]

same but i took a break from it

pf had me seething

kk back to work now

[remote gate]

i wasnt talking about myself i was saying it took you that long beacause of pf shitters

good luck at work hope its a quiet saturday

[trim frost]

did i ever tell u about the 1000 pull whm who was constantly on 0 mp

[dapper zealot]

Mb I keep fat fingering cure3

[trim frost]

not mine btw i think louis was in a merc or something

[zealous meteor]

8 seconds left on medica 3

casting medica 3

[loud nymph]

well it's more the whole

standing with the tanks during their howling eight tower

[zealous meteor]

oh yeah that' salso ?????

they should just shield themselves to protect against the tankbuster

[trim frost]

see also:

[jolly flume]

I mean

if they don't stand with the tanks

how will they heal them

[loud nymph]

FAIR POINT

[dapper zealot]

Exactly

Gotta healing touch

[terse zodiac]

Ouch

[loud nymph]

1000 pulls only to not clear??

[jolly flume]

idk

[trim frost]

they cleared at the 990 mark or something

[jolly flume]

savage is pretty hard

[trim frost]

last i checked

[jolly flume]

[trim frost]

how can i tell these wh*te mage players that they are a burden on society without breaking ff tos

[jolly flume]

tell them to carry around a potted plant at all times to make up for the oxygen they're wasting

[torn mesa]

the tier list never lies

[tough gorge]

what's the tier list for

[torn mesa]

the likelihood of a player of that job trapping you in PF/DF

[tough gorge]

how stupid the average player of that class is?

[torn mesa]

yeah basically

[tough gorge]

ah

[jolly flume]

there should really be an entire empty tier between whm and dnc

[torn mesa]

yo

I told dank this yesterday too

like we initially had DNC at top of S

but we moved all phys ranged up a tier at the end

[zealous meteor]

so are S tiers the most likely to trap you in pf

or is C the most likely

[torn mesa]

higher = worse players on average

[zealous meteor]

got it. gonna play drk to drag it down

[trim frost]

ok yeah gnb is kinda real

[torn mesa]

so I personally wanted to put SAM high A or low S

but the people I made it with insisted B cause their experience with SAM players is always dogshit awful or totally cracked

[trim frost]

🔥

[torn mesa]

this is probably a more accurate list

I mentioned we moved all phys ranged up a tier, and forgot to do it with SMN

[rain geode]

Always curious to see what people personal experiences are with this

[torn mesa]

like, this list is a joke for the most part right

[rain geode]

Obviously

[torn mesa]

but there's a reason almost anyone I've talked to, the first job that comes to mind

is WHM

[rain geode]

Really most of the WHM I've hit have been fine but I've never had a RDM I wanted in the party

Tho running a bunch of PT probably biased the needle on that

[wicked delta]

I 100% agree on WHM

But personally ive met more bards that played like shit than machinists

[zealous meteor]

so why the fuck is whm so bad

is it JUST because it's the only starting healer??

or is there something more to it

[torn mesa]

we had this discussion in voice yesterday

[jolly flume]

it's braindead easy and appeals to the barely any gameplay demographic

[torn mesa]

the reason you gave is what Tobi mentioned

[wicked delta]

Simple job - easy to pick up - game does not directly incentivize you to become better until you start doing high level content

And even in high level content; your group can make up for your shit gameplay if they’re good enough honestly lmao

[torn mesa]

I think Wonder's stance is also very valid:

• AST is just so much better than WHM in terms of almost all areas
• Good players tend to buy into meta more -> good healers tend to play AST more , and in turn play WHM less -> the remaining WHMs tend to be worse healers

[wicked delta]

I just dunno how they’d make WHM compete on AST’s lvl without basically reworking the whole job lol

[torn mesa]

even if they don't make it compete, they can reduce the gap

[rain geode]

And then confirmation bias compounds it's to the point where it's inescapable.

[wicked delta]

Yeah like WHM doesn’t have to be god tier or whatever

At least to me

But the way it is right now is just sad

And its a bad healer to start out with anyway

[zealous meteor]

• glare 3 is now 5000 potency
• afflatus solace gives a shield worth 200% of healing (potency is unchanged)
• afflatus misery now gives the party one LB bar

[wicked delta]

All the other healers are way better to go with if you’re new to healing tbh

[jolly flume]

ok I don't necessarily agree

but all the other healers are WAY better if you're not new to healing

[wicked delta]

Idk I think WHM is way too simple lol

Simplicity is fine in most cases

Like WAR is unga bunga brain off for most people

[torn mesa]

a job being simple doesn't mean it's bad

[jolly flume]

it hardly matters what you start with

I started as a fkn summoner

but if you somehow dont even learn the fundamentals through the easiest jobs in the game

[torn mesa]

neither NIN nor DRG are exactly hard among melee

[jolly flume]

you are cooked wallahi

[torn mesa]

and both of those are meta jobs

[rain geode]

I was gonna say otherwise all the jobs would be bad xd

[torn mesa]

okay MCH slaps

is a cope take

[wicked delta]

But I think WAR is fine but WHM is just terrible with some fundamentals

At least to me

[jolly flume]

there isn't really anything whm doesn't teach you to do

like

the reason we hate whm so much

is that the players who play it fail even at those whm fundamentals

[wicked delta]

Its just my experience though. I started out with AST over WHM lmao

[jolly flume]

there's nothing inherently wrong with the job design wise

other than balance wise

[torn mesa]

I don't hate WHM, or the fact that it's easy to play

[wicked delta]

I hated it but I didn’t fall for the dumbass freecure trap at least

[torn mesa]

I just hate how many of their players grief you in PUGs

[rain geode]

Maybe this will change time but honestly as long as you don't suck I don't really care what you play

[jolly flume]

I hate the job and the players

lol

[wicked delta]

Im not saying simple job = bad or I wouldn’t touch like all of my fav jobs with a 20 meter pole

[torn mesa]

Tobi, what I'm trying to say is more so I don't think WHM as a job is badly designed in the current iteration

[wicked delta]

I like RPR and thats a pretty simple melee

[zealous meteor]

problem with white mage is it has ONE party mitigation button. TWO single target mit buttons. the rest is all pure healing

[wicked delta]

I dunno

[dull drum]

dw all shield healers hate whms

just a fact

[rain geode]

RPR also just looks cool

[wicked delta]

I played WHM for this tier and it really was like

Oh I pressed my wings

Welp

Good luck guys I have nothing

[rain geode]

I was thinking of bringing it into the next tier but decided against it

[wicked delta]

Lol

[torn mesa]

this is the largest issue yeah

but there are certainly many other things it's lacking in

[zealous meteor]

yeah once you burn temperance and aquaveil you have nothing left to protect against attacks
you can only heal after the fact

and temperance is a 2 minute cooldown

[wicked delta]

Maybe if they made you have to pure heal more in fights then it wouldn’t be such a problem

But I literally don’t know how they’d do that

[jolly flume]

q40

[wicked delta]

And scholar can just do that shit anyway

[torn mesa]

myth: WHM is the best healer at healing throughput

[zealous meteor]

if white mage had a reverse emergency tactics button maybe it would be more useful

[jolly flume]

[wicked delta]

My favorite astro button is macrocosmos

Dunno why

I just like it

[remote gate]

when i play astro this button is my go to theres no reason to not use it

[wicked delta]

Im stuck between reaper and dark knight

If they put me through the dick smasher im going to melee bruh

I dont want to experience sugar riot trauma

[remote gate]

the return of yan

[trim frost]

wish that were me

[dull drum]

ln was extremely shocking

[wicked delta]

[dull drum]

somehow me being first time tank in m5s / havent done the fight in months is somehow more compotent than people who recently cleared

had a viper who kept swapping melee groups it was so funny

[wicked delta]

Lord I see what you do for others

I want that for me.

[rapid whale]

lmao

[rain geode]

I'm between WAR SCH or DNC

[jolly flume]

bro

someone teach tehse ppl

[rapid whale]

whichever is the most fun for you

[jolly flume]

how to tankswap

im crying

[rapid whale]

does that mean they hit the button when they werent supposed to

[rain geode]

That's what I'm trying decide

[zealous meteor]

i think i'm gonna do the 7.4 extreme as healer and tank and decide which i wanna use in savage then

(probably healer though)

as for specific job... definitely scholar for healer
and honestly any tank for tank

[rapid whale]

yea you got 3 weeks to commit

[rain geode]

I wanna do this one and commit before 7.4 so I can try a little of the current tier

[zealous meteor]

i'm not progging cruiserweight at this point lmao

i've seen enough horror stories from marce

[rain geode]

Eh if horror storied scared me I would never play at all lol

[zealous meteor]

shares a horror story

"the lalafell who got a 0 in arkveld"

[rain geode]

Also dancing green normal was fun af so I wanna try the savage

[zealous meteor]

what i played of M5S was fun but not fun enough to warrant progging it now

[rain geode]

Then again I'm the type of guy who will do a fight because I want to not because it's an efficient time to do it

[zealous meteor]

idk

[dapper zealot]

I only touched ex because I wanted the mount

[zealous meteor]

i would like to do the fights at some point but it just doesn't seem reasonable with current pf

[trim frost]

doing it now is the only time you'll probably ever get to experience doing it "properly" if that means anything to you

[dapper zealot]

Tho I would enjoy doing high end if I had a good party instead of shitty pf

[trim frost]

any later you're skipping a significant number of mechanics

and yes that significant number can be one

[zealous meteor]

i don't really care about that tbh

t'ew probably does judging from their messages

[trim frost]

m8s enrage sequence isn't anything special but not doing it means you lose on a lot of hype

just to give an example

[rain geode]

More then anything else I'd just like some savage experience before 7.4

[zealous meteor]

fair

[trim frost]

also

if you're still deliberating which job to run

why not just try all of them in current savage

[zealous meteor]

...yeah you could do that actually

[thin tartan]

oh ok

[dull drum]

legit the first pt we had awful

second pt

one pull one clear

[rain geode]

I was kinda hoping to cash out Maths for 750 gear for the job I wanted before trying savage but I guess doing it in 740 would be more accurate

[dull drum]

just grab 750 gear

next tier we’re going in with four weeks of tome gear anyway

[rain geode]

That's what I'm saying since 750 is still limited I can only really get 1 job 750 gear rn

[zealous meteor]

uh

[rapid whale]

current mathetmatics will be used

[zealous meteor]

ceremonial gear

[rapid whale]

to make crafted gear

i would highly rec start savign now

it's like 1500? per set but will be less since we dont need weapon + 4 weeks of tome gear

[zealous meteor]

what's the conversion rate for old tomes?

[loud nymph]

4:1

[zealous meteor]

ah so i can get 250 maths if i go in with capped helio

...500

[loud nymph]

500

but yes

[zealous meteor]

i think i really need the mathematics tomestones
not for materials but to study

[dapper zealot]

Didn't maths the maths

I got like 1900 something

[zealous meteor]

....they do convert to the newly uncapped tomestone right?

with maths/new tomestone converting to poetics in 8.0

[dapper zealot]

Don't think they do

[zealous meteor]

Allagan Tomestones of Aesthetics were discontinued in Patch 7.2. They can be exchanged with Auriana in Revenant's Toll (X:22.7 Y:6.7) for Allagan Tomestone of Heliometry until Patch 7.4, when they will be removed entirely.

it applies to the 7.0 tomes at least?