endgame-lounge

[fierce matrix]

Doth on the outside is just two positions

[jolly flume]

norm is giving whoever has the least clears the outer slot

[fierce matrix]

Doth second to the outside is 4 positions

[random needle]

Im baby

[fierce matrix]

Honestly its really not too hard

The dooms make a lil n and the non-dooms make a lil smiley face mouth

And then you start left to right where they go to make it

[random needle]

It seems doable enough, I just need to actually study and sim it a lil

We keep progging just a little past where I had studied up to

[fierce matrix]

DotH is really simple if you just break it down into the two shapes

[rapid whale]

no faith smh just sim the rest of the fight :^)

[fierce matrix]

Doom make n and non doom make smile, start left to right and fill in where need be. I dont think I really ever got confused on where I needed to go and never really simmed it

[robust shoal]

the hard part of doth is just remembering to look away from the gazes while it's happening

[fierce matrix]

Though my group did it reverse

So it was fun switching for pf

[rapid whale]

that part always gets me in the sim

[jolly flume]

li

oops pocket dial

[random needle]

Session 1: we see p3, I haven't studied Wyrmhole and I'm very confused
Session 2: we see p4, I've studied a little but we explode
Session 3: I HATE DDOS! I HATE DDOS! I HATE DDOS!
Session 4: we see p5, my corpse is dragged to DotH, I haven't studied

At this rate, maybe I should sim p6 tonight /s

[valid solar]

this guy is typing plugin commands into discord

[rapid whale]

just do it

[fierce matrix]

li

ck dn

Gottem

[robust shoal]

p/enumbra

[random needle]

We clear before Thanksgiving, definitely

[fierce matrix]

Wroth Flames is always a fun wall

Youll get to P6 and spend another week dying to P5 permutations you havent gotten

[random needle]

Yeahhhhhhhh that's the thing I keep telling myself

We're definitely getting to the point where we're not gonna blaze through phases as quickly anymore because we have to get the earlier ones as consistent as possible

[fierce matrix]

Thankfully P6 is really not that hard. Its just keep the health even

If you have a PCT

Glhf its annoying

[valid solar]

I stopped blazing through phases once p1 was over

[random needle]

Certified PCT blocker right here

[fierce matrix]

One hammer hit and the boss health bar chunks 4% and pushes

[steep narwhal]

u stopped pfing

u stopped logging in

</3

[valid solar]

nah I still do DSR like twice a week

[steep narwhal]

and then u come back

and go to balmung

[valid solar]

finding groups that can consistently get pass strength is tough

[fierce matrix]

Does bungo even know what a rotation is

[rain geode]

Whats in balmung

[wicked delta]

Hey stop hating on him

Hes potential viper

[random needle]

I still mess up Sanctity sometimes, usually when I have to swap with another DPS

[fierce matrix]

Potential viper goes crazy

[valid solar]

glass house

[wicked delta]

He has the potential to be a rank 1 viper player when his internet works

[fierce matrix]

When has his internet worked

[steep narwhal]

balmungers

[wicked delta]

Never

[fierce matrix]

EXACTLYB

[steep narwhal]

[wicked delta]

But it has the potential to

[fierce matrix]

Idk

Hes gotta move to JP for that

Plug it into yoshi ps server

The private server

[valid solar]

playing on jp at 120 ping is a whole different experience than the 260 - 300 im used to

its so nice

the game is so smooth when you have low ish ping

[fierce matrix]

120

[wicked delta]

Getting like 200 ms on NA but 12 ms on EU

[fierce matrix]

Lowish

[wicked delta]

EU is freedom

[fierce matrix]

I run 45ms on NA but with Mr funny lower ping its super smooth

And I have a VPN so if I get packet loss on my node I just swap

[valid solar]

oh yeah I have to turn on a vpn every now and then as well, usually I use a korea server because that doesnt affect the ping much but avoids the bad node

[fierce matrix]

God does this game love having bad nodes

[jolly flume]

"thankfully p6 is not that hard. it's just <terminal cancer>"

[fierce matrix]

LOL

Just wait till double downtime so you are just fucked

Its my favorite

[jolly flume]

to be fair it isn't that bad once everyone grows a pair of eyes and looks at the hp BEFORE akh afah starts casting

but it takes a while

[fierce matrix]

I meant like

Mechanics arent hard

[jolly flume]

yeah it's all free

[fierce matrix]

The hardest part is not moving too fast for wroth

[jolly flume]

🤖 out. tanks close party far. rot pass middle, everyone else away. wyrmsbreath spots.

[fierce matrix]

[jolly flume]

sorry bud

Expedience

fwoosh

[fierce matrix]

Im running into the wroth flame + and there is nothing you can do to stop me

[jolly flume]

it's ok your damage is optional anyways

[fierce matrix]

[jolly flume]

better that than sitting in the puddle

[fierce matrix]

Im a gain on two

Thats gotta matter right

RIGHT

[jolly flume]

nidhogg is 15% higher than hrae but I gain 20 potency by press fated circle so I think I'll do that instead

man I feel like I should start pfing ahead again

i'm so washed

all the mechanics are still 75% there in my hands but the other 25% is lost to time

[pale blade]

Jeuno in Alliance, with a first-timer

Christmas come early

[rapid whale]

the dt alliance raids are actually so fun

[fierce matrix]

It'll come back

Its like riding a bike

[jolly flume]

i'm the bike

wait

[wicked delta]

Bro

[jolly flume]

[wicked delta]

[zealous meteor]

you're bisexual??

[wicked delta]

Oh hes bisexual I didn’t know that

[rapid whale]

if my grandmother had handlebars she would be a bike

[wicked delta]

Excuse me

[rapid whale]

have you not seen the clip

[wicked delta]

No

[rapid whale]

oh it was wheels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-RfHC91Ewc

[jolly flume]

maybe I'll make everyone spawn a little early today for some web sim reps

[valid solar]

chiyo isnt but we were discussing earlier about how he says extremely gay things regardless, we should find a psychology student focusing on gender studies and have them make a case study on him

[wicked delta]

😭😭

Thats funny as fuck

[wicked delta]

Yeah we need to study him in a lab

[jolly flume]

[wicked delta]

Immediately

[jolly flume]

that's normal straight man activities

[wicked delta]

I’ll need someone to make a survey for that

1. Are you straight
2. Have you ever said anything sounding gay
3. Are you sure you don’t think about kissing men on occasion

[rain geode]

I think about kissing everyone

[wicked delta]

And you

Are straight?

[jolly flume]

anyone who says no to 2 is just fuckin lying man

[rain geode]

no

[wicked delta]

I say gay things all the time but I literally am

Actually

I feel like the average straight man says more gay shit than I do

I need to step up my game

[jolly flume]

lock in

[wicked delta]

[valid solar]

yeah you're the straightest gay man ive ever met I fear /s

[wicked delta]

That feels worse than being called a slur

Never say that again

[zealous meteor]

ok [REDACTED]

[rapid whale]

there's nothing gayer than a straight dude

[wicked delta]

Its true

[random needle]

Wait maybe I shouldn't send that here

[wicked delta]

💀

[random needle]

Sorry if I pinged you chiyo I'm new

[wicked delta]

Didn’t see but 💀

[pale blade]

4. Who do you consider your greatest rival

[valid solar]

woke superman

[wicked delta]

Thats a good one

[loud nymph]

woke-el

[jolly flume]

horse yuri

[wicked delta]

Horse yuri

[rapid whale]

yorse hurry

[remote gate]

another reason why oguri is the best

[remote gate]

just kiss daiwa already holy shit

[boreal pumice]

Do you guys bother doing pt every week for the challenge log?

[visual geyser]

I didn’t when I was doing it

[brisk scarab]

Maybe I should look for other ult parties besides fru to do my firdt ever ult it

Seems FRU is dead, so maybe widening my scope to any Ult I have unlocked would be easier to get a party for

[rapid whale]

fru is the most popular one tho

idk if the reality matches what you are expecting to happen

[loud nymph]

waiting in PF for hours on end is the way PFing an ultimate always goes

[rapid whale]

i have unironically spent 4 hours and not gotten a single party before

yea

and that was with 2 healers lmfao

[brisk scarab]

Well no, I understand a blm and first time ult person its gonna be hard to find a recruiting party

[rapid whale]

no im saying the other ultimates are more dead than fru

[loud nymph]

just to be realistic this is a bad time to be looking for ultimates in general

[rapid whale]

7.55 will prob be peak ultimate season but thats like a year away

[brisk scarab]

Whens the next Ult?

[loud nymph]

7.5

[rapid whale]

7.5x

[brisk scarab]

[loud nymph]

or I guess most likely 7.51

[brisk scarab]

Ill keep trying for other ults until then, hopefully Ill be accepted into one

[loud nymph]

so like April-May 2026

[brisk scarab]

Just getting experience is good enough for me

[rapid whale]

wdym b y accepted

you just join a pf

at your prog point

[brisk scarab]

Im talkinh about the recruitment servers

[loud nymph]

if you're not doing ultimate with a static you're gonna be waiting in a lot of PFs

[brisk scarab]

[loud nymph]

that's just how it goes

[rapid whale]

yea

[loud nymph]

and with how close the next Savage tier is

[rapid whale]

like 3 hour wait for 3 pulls type shit

[brisk scarab]

I was talking about statics

[loud nymph]

there's not gonna be a lot of ultimate statics forming

[rapid whale]

yeah

highly unlikely anything forms

the ones that do are prob friends alt jobbing or w/e

[loud nymph]

"I'm just looking for ultimate I don't care which one" is also something a lot of statics probably aren't looking for

[rapid whale]

yea when you said fru is dead statics were so far out of my scope of possibility i didnt even consider thats what you meant lol

[brisk scarab]

I dont see how looking for any static conducting a certain Ultimate is a bad thing, and I wouldnt word it like that

[rapid whale]

atp pf is your only hope and fresh tends to fill okay

[brisk scarab]

All Im.saying is that I wanna do any ult, preferably FRU to start, but Ill learn any for the sake of doing it

[rapid whale]

all im saying is pf is there

just be prepared for a lot of Patience ™

just to be sure, do you have fru unlocked? and did you keep your old 730 set

iirc a lot of jobs use dungeon gear now tho

[brisk scarab]

I do have FRU unlocked although I probably have some 730 missing, which wont be hard to get again

[rapid whale]

i'd start there

were you planning to make the static farm that for you 😵‍💫

[loud nymph]

there arent a lot of statics recruiting rn

there's probably even fewer statics recruiting for fresh prog rn

and idk if I'm forming a static for fresh prog for a specific ultimate I'd be more likely to recruit people who are interested specifically in that ultimate because they come off as more likely to lock in vs people who just wanna do whatever

[brisk scarab]

Why are we putting words in my moutj

[rapid whale]

we are not

im saying if you were srs about doing fru you'd start by looking up the raid plans + gear

if you havent done the gear yet why are you applying/looking for statics

[brisk scarab]

Because its like, one accessory

But hey, Im the jackass here I guess for speksing my thoughts

[rapid whale]

?

[brisk scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1244050796262457355/1337139196527120465/454BD642-0AE7-4743-BD15-9EC393ABD403.gif

[rapid whale]

wat

[pine holly]

Its gonna be tough to find a static wanting to fresh prog fru right before a new Savage drop

[loud nymph]

We're trying to explain to you why you're not having much luck

and "I'll just look for whatever" isn't really gonna help you have more luck

because a month before a new patch with a new savage tier is a bad time to look for an ultimate static

[pine holly]

We didn't have much difficulty filling two spots for dsr but we did this right before 7.3 dropped, where people would be bored.

[brisk scarab]

I understand why Im not having much long, all I did was say my thoughts was looking for statics outside of just a fresh FRU

I understand learning raid plans, preparation, dcheduling and issues with upcoming in game updated of new content

[rapid whale]

okay so you wanted to vent about frustration? im confused atp

[brisk scarab]

And I wouldnt say out loud Ill take any, I was just voicing Id like to do anh I can do

[pine holly]

Like what the statics expect from you? Idk depends on the static

[brisk scarab]

I wasnt frustrated when I posted, I was just voicing what I was doing

[loud nymph]

all I'm saying is if you think fru statics are dead just wait till you look for something else

[pine holly]

Ours is only what, 7 hours a week? We mostly checked for vibes and whether someone was competent during prog.

[brisk scarab]

Yeah, I had one for Savage but had to drop out due to my new job hours, which sucked

But luckily my hours are better for typical run times in other parties, like weekends, nights/evenings etc

[brisk scarab]

Which Is why Ill probably do FRU through PFs instead of doing static searching, itll be longer but at least I can properly learn with first hand experience

Might as well do any opportunity presented rather then aimlessly search

[pine holly]

Pfing while looking for statics I feel like would only help anyway, do what feels right

[brisk scarab]

How varied are Ult raidplans? Is it like the 2-3 used in ex/savage pfs, or are there multiple used by different parties

[rapid whale]

for NA the generally accepted raid plans are from NAUR

[brisk scarab]

[loud nymph]

ye just use whatever naur has

that's gonna be what pf will pull from

unless you get some stupid cursed pf that wants to do fuss free fall of faith or some other stupid shit

in which case just avoid that pf

[brisk scarab]

Ahhh I see

[remote gate]

when doing ultimates you'll also see repeat names a lot. sometimes there are goated pf players and then there are pf terrorists which just fuck everything up

last night I saw a fake ranged dragoon in uwu and it was like

why??

[random needle]

https://tenor.com/view/psp1g-what-gif-23713811

[remote gate]

apparently this guy is a known person in na uwu pfs too

[random needle]

Fake ranged... As Dragoon... the job that has at least one gapcloser in all its bursts... ahuh

I guess technically at 70 it's "just" dragonfire dive, but I'm still throwing them into the sea for that

[loud nymph]

fake.... ranged?!?

wtf?

why wouldn't you just play a ranged job

[random needle]

Fake ranged is already a concept worthy of being mocked into oblivion

[pine holly]

My biggest fear is having a bad day and becoming a pf meme

I still remember me alt tabling out of my fru opener, three times in a row, and just dipping because I was that embarrassed

Never did that before or since. No idea how I did that three times in a row

[random needle]

Does a single bad instance make you a known PF terrorist? I got the impression that was more if you had a consistent pattern of playing like dogwater

Like Big or Watashia

[pine holly]

That's the 2nd part, "well I looked like an idiot last party just don't do that again"

[brisk scarab]

Whats the least used class in Ultimates typically?

Is there like, one that is genuinely ignored

[pine holly]

Had a few instances in Savage where I would do awesome, finally get a party that's good and clear ready and play like ass

[brisk scarab]

I know any class can be viable in the right jands, but I was wondering if theres one thats always avoided in ult parties

[pine holly]

I don't think anyone does Viper in uwu for instance, cause it's boring.

[boreal pumice]

id say vpr outside fru since its earlier lvls its just so fyucking shit

[pine holly]

But generally everyone is viable

[true beacon]

Smn is cracked in the 70 ults

[pine holly]

Dark Knight didn't have a party mit in the 70s ults until DT

[random needle]

You can play basically whatever job, just make sure you're good with it and make sure it won't put you to sleep at that level

https://tenor.com/view/mimimimimi-cat-sleeping-snoring-cat-sleeping-cat-drooling-cat-gif-23979759

Pictured: a VPR in UWU

[brisk scarab]

Yeah, right now Im only running ults on BLM, and probably soon RDM since I play those most often, but Ive been learning DRK and will hopefully run endgame content with it too soon

[pine holly]

Wait when does Viper even get awakening

[random needle]

90

[boreal pumice]

90

[sinful brook]

It was fine that dark knight was missing missionary we basically never noticed in ucob

[pine holly]

Jesus

[boreal pumice]

even it doesnt get its weaving power

[sinful brook]

The check doesn't exist anyways

[random needle]

Literally just play VPR bro

RPR

[sinful brook]

Just heal more 4hed

[random needle]

Why are they one letter off

[brisk scarab]

Astrologian is very hard to get used to on controller why I level it

[boreal pumice]

the weaving part it at 100 so your just kinda blue doing basic bits

[random needle]

You're blue now. That's your attack

[boreal pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/super-saiyan-blue-release-power-vegeta-dragon-ball-gif-17009565

[brisk scarab]

Which is more boring, vpr or smn rotation

[jolly flume]

astro is so fun

[brisk scarab]

[quick verge]

!pregnancy

[jolly flume]

?

did your water break

[brisk scarab]

Astro is fun so far, although using the cards on party is still difficult to know when to time them for me

[random needle]

SMN at least gives you the dopamine of sending Bahamut as often as possible (and thus being top DPS in UCoB and UWU)

VPR is just nothing but filler

I've personally made significant prog as RDM and BLM in two ults, and they're both fun and nice, but again, it's just your preference dawg

[boreal pumice]

smn also "fun" in eureka/bozja big numbers its always big dopamine

[jolly flume]

nothing like a perfectly timed star pop

[random needle]

I've technically also done SMN in UWU up to Titan and BRD in TEA up to LC, but that's not deep into either fight to feel significant to me

[jolly flume]

shit is peam when you manually detonate it before the castbar for the damage even ends and then the propagation time lets it top everyone anyway

[random needle]

I need to get more used to using my star as AST, I keep forgetting it exists and drifting it

[brisk scarab]

Eureka is the only field operation mount I need

Ive gotta finish that content/story some time

[boreal pumice]

ozma is fun

[true beacon]

Ye

[brisk scarab]

Although I dont think anything beats the Cerberes mount

Speaking of mounts, I hope the all EX one is really good this expansion

Im 5/5 on wings rn

[random needle]

I just need to actually play AST more in content that isn't in freaking Heavensward, I'm so sick of a6

[boreal pumice]

cerb looks cool but ozma is iconic and that it has different forms and sometimes we may mod it show weird funny things

[true beacon]

[random needle]

It's her

[true beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/sphene-ffxiv-dawntrail-sphere-gif-8076540594294489330

[boreal pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-xiv-ffxiv-sphene-basketball-meme-gif-2559671794994838969

[brisk scarab]

God, Zelenia was a fun extreme

The colors were too similiar regarding mechs though LOL

[boreal pumice]

says everyone , we remeber p3 red on red

[brisk scarab]

The voice actor for Zelenia gives me chills on a specific line

Although I forgot it...

[jolly flume]

her music was cool for two pulls and then it started getting grating

ngl

[boreal pumice]

you could had sword of doubt or ff9 boss music 2 , think roses was the better choice

maybe protecting my devotion could of worked

[random needle]

Still manifesting Man With The Machine Gun for Hell On Rails

[pine holly]

Dun dun DUN DUN, dundundun DUN DUN, dundunadundun, dunadunadunadu

[boreal pumice]

they do need to use different music then what they did from eden so no force your way

[pine holly]

And I really like Roses of May too

[random needle]

Yeah, and no Don't Be Afraid either

Or The Extreme

[jolly flume]

i could listen to the extreme all day

[pine holly]

Ngl Eden with Force Your Way is what made me try 14 for the first time back in 2019

I unfortunately started as Thamaturge

I got bored

[jolly flume]

succumb to the darkness >w<

[random needle]

The Extreme is probably my favorite 12th floor second phase theme

[pine holly]

Extreme is a banger fucking theme

[random needle]

For p1, my favorite is easily Athena

[boreal pumice]

mr with the machine gun would be awsome great battle theme and it can used club stuff its just really good

[pine holly]

Ultimecia in 8 might be a dumb boss but the music

Banger

[jolly flume]

still mad gaia's enrage isn't terminal relativity

[random needle]

I love how the slow piano in the intro gets replayed way faster when the drop hits

[pine holly]

If they wanted to emulate Ultimecia perfectly Gaia would just randomly delete your materia on your gear cause fuck you

[sick dirge]

oh my god LOL

https://tenor.com/view/sphene-ffxiv-chromebook-durabillity-test-gif-11742287085934521207

[random needle]

Zoraal Ja did this

[sick dirge]

who

the dead beat father?

[visual geyser]

Goat

[pine holly]

Jotaro Kujo channeling Vergil

[clear plume]

The extreme is really fun to play on piano

[pine holly]

Got fucking whiplash when I heard his jp voice

[clear plume]

I have a composition of it I made for my piano exam

[pine holly]

If only Ultimecia didn't have that dumb mechanic where she destroys your magic and can randomly brick a characters stats. Literal rng where it does nothing or makes an attempt actually hard

That last phase where Extreme actually plays is very fun though. I like trying to kill her before Apokalypse activates.

[jolly flume]

I haven't played piano in like a year and a half now

washed up at so many things

[remote gate]

pick it back up bro

[jolly flume]

I kinda just cared less and less after I passed all the ABRSM shit in middle school and by college I'd just stopped playing entirely save for like once a month on a whim

I think I just stopped bc I didn't have anything I actually wanted to play

since I grew up with classical shoved down my throat

[rapid whale]

something something play xiv covers

[dull drum]

play the minecraft soundtrack

[loud nymph]

Minecraft sfx is just the p9s music

[dull drum]

i like the p9s music

[loud nymph]

me too but the tinkles at the beginning are just Minecraft XP

[jolly flume]

there's a fleeting moment cover I really like

idk im lazy now tho

maybe over winter break

[dull drum]

um but winter break is prep for savage

[jolly flume]

I don't need prep I'm LOCKED IN

nah but honestly that's why I'm pushing myself to actually play the game lately lol

I need to get unwashed before I grief savage

it's crazy how much my skills have atrophied

[tawdry delta]

Asian parents think violin and piano are super important but tell them you want to pursue a music career and they will threaten to disown you

[craggy marsh]

Watches your lie in april once and decides they wanna play the piano/violin

[whole estuary]

well yeah, it's like how business people want you to golf but not become a professional golfer

but golf is so boring

[visual geyser]

Yall nerds prepping for savage

Meanwhile I’m prepping for the new 100 frontline win mount

We are NOT the same.

[trim frost]

theres no urgency to prep lmao

[visual geyser]

Mentally preparing by playing marvel rivals

[brisk scarab]

So the new EX will drop immiedately upon the update and then one week later is savage right

[visual geyser]

Seeing how low human intellect can go

Becoming mentally untouchable

[loud nymph]

savage is 3 weeks later in this case

because of the holiday

[brisk scarab]

Ahhh alr

Gives me time to farm the wings then

[loud nymph]

December 16th for the patch and January 6th for savage

so yeah you got 3 weeks to farm ex

before it dies

[visual geyser]

Is raid planner patch launch?

[loud nymph]

probably?

[visual geyser]

Hopefully

It’s good

[brisk scarab]

So this expansion is based off FF9 right

[visual geyser]

Yesnt

[brisk scarab]

I saw FFXVI is $35 for complete edition, so I thought Id get that and aanother FF game

I wanna try that previous FF MMO, but Im unsure how long itd take to complete that games story

[loud nymph]

yes, the Alexandria stuff is heavily inspired by / lifted from ff9

[visual geyser]

Very long

Ff11 is also a bitch to install

I think you can do the ff11 story out of order tho?

[loud nymph]

honestly play either 6 or 9

both are peak

[brisk scarab]

Sounds good

[loud nymph]

6 was my first so I'm definitely not biased at all

[visual geyser]

Can’t go wrong with either I heard

[dull drum]

this tier is actually cost effective for me wtf

ex weapon + 4 weeks of tome?

😱

[true beacon]

https://youtu.be/HdSg0RYX4FM?si=h8i-HJJ4HucGeNMn

[jade nimbus]

damn, now if only ff11 was a good game

[mortal flower]

FFXI uses an antiquated, near decrepit install system requiring near dead accounts to download [slowly] the MMO

[loud nymph]

So, you want to try Final Fantasy 11

not really, mr happy

[true beacon]

anyone wanna do P12S

[trim frost]

fuck no

[loud nymph]

I kinda wanna do p8s again for Abyssos weapons

they are so pretty

[brisk scarab]

The HW Paladin set with the abysoss fending gear is something I need sooooo bad

[true beacon]

the normal or pvp variant

[brisk scarab]

Relic*

[zealous meteor]

the HW paladin relic?

[brisk scarab]

I meant

Yeah

[true beacon]

I prefer Excalibur

but at least pld has good relics

unlike brd

most of which suck

well

at least Terpander does

Circinae and Yoichi Bow fuck

[dreamy whale]

Most warrior ones too

Heavensward is peak tho

Ragnarok sucks ass

[true beacon]

I say having all 3

[brisk scarab]

Is bard not played often, or am I just not looking enough

Because I barely see them myself

[dreamy whale]

I mostly see dancers yea

[brisk scarab]

I wanna get my Shadowbringers relic completed but this stupid collect 30 of 6 different items is so stupid

[loud nymph]

it's a lot more work than DNC tbh

and for not a huge gain in rdps

so people default to the easier job

(even though BRD is way more fun)

[loud nymph]

Terpander Lux is the worst relic in the game and I will die on this hill

yoichi bow zeta, however

[dreamy whale]

I’ll get around to leveling brd when I’m level 100

[true beacon]

then there's rpr where the best weapon is the fuckin' ilvl 580 crafted one

[trim frost]

among final stages? yeah probably

[loud nymph]

the best RPR weapon is the Asphodelos weapon when you dye it hot pink because it looks like someone's gums and all the little white jewels look like teeth

[dreamy whale]

My personal favorite gunbreaker weapon

[loud nymph]

so you can go full body horror dentist glam

[worldly grotto]

Literal perfection

[loud nymph]

it really is

[dreamy whale]

Iike the first one in this if thats what you’re talking about

[loud nymph]

I barely play BRD and I grinded that relic out just because of how perfect it is

[loud nymph]

The big blue one is Terpander Lux (HW relic) and it's fucking awful

[dreamy whale]

Whatt

[loud nymph]

Yoichi Bow Zeta is the second one, the red with the yellow glow

[dreamy whale]

It looks so cool though

[loud nymph]

it's way, way, way, way, way, way, way too much

[dreamy whale]

Big ass laser bow

[loud nymph]

this is peak

[dreamy whale]

I see a lot of people hating weapons with a lot of effects

I think im in rhe minority

[true beacon]

its not the effects

its how bulky it is

its why I hate 90% of all the rpr weapons

they're too fucking bulky

[dreamy whale]

It’s cool as hell

[zealous meteor]

i like the pt scythe

[dreamy whale]

I fw bulky weapons

Its the shape and size i care about

Bravura is so fucking ugly

[whole estuary]

no u

[trim frost]

ive probably used lunar envoy bow ever since it came out bc it just fits thematically with my glam

[loud nymph]

I kinda fw the TEA bow too ngl

[dreamy whale]

The TEA weapons look so epic

[loud nymph]

Could theoretically play BRD in TEA

That might be fun

[dreamy whale]

Its so cool bro

[true beacon]

I mean Ukanovasara is also a relic

which I realize I can't check because I haven't done the HW warrior one yet

[dreamy whale]

Im talking about the effects tho

[worn bluff]

i like all the TEA weapons

[mortal flower]

Tbh the effects of most of the relics are ugly

[whole estuary]

true

[dreamy whale]

Minos lux effects are kino

[mortal flower]

Too flashy, too much use of glow, feels like I'm getting fucking radiation poisoning

[true beacon]

got all these

[mortal flower]

Counterpoint: TOP VFX is kinda nice

[whole estuary]

the glow makes them impossible to match with glams

[mortal flower]

Counter-counterpoint: I like the [Alolo glows]

The tome glows were fucking perfect

[worn bluff]

i like TOP glow. the color change stands out a lot

[whole estuary]

the composition becomes lopsidedly focused on the weapon

[mortal flower]

Only if I had the patience to learn the content

[mortal flower]

On god

Like the tome glows to me struck a perfect balance

[worn bluff]

EW relics look cool except i feel like they should have been some other reward so they wouldn't be the most common thing you saw for a while

[mortal flower]

It just augmented the weapon

It wasn't the whole thing

And it wasn't uniform across all of them

cough cough ultimates and [certain] relics

Like War got the chainsaw turned on

PLD got a sea of stars

Etc

[worn bluff]

remember when the augmented MCH tome had no lunchbox for a bit

[true beacon]

no

[worn bluff]

and then they were like OH my bad we didn't mean to do that

it was like for one patch it was a bug

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/142jp0p/so_the_augmented_version_of_the_new_machinist/

[trim frost]

bro

mfw raphael macro breaks because of a poorly timed primed on waste not

shits so annoying

[boreal pumice]

welcome to macro on expert

[trim frost]

i think that deadass might be the only case where it fails for this particular mission

its not even an ex+

just ex

like no other case would negatively impact from a longer buff except for getting locked out of prudent

slash whatever the progress one is

although

[boreal pumice]

yh i have over shot progress a few times because of that

[trim frost]

i guess maybe an early malleable might fuck stuff up too

literally just wanted to get this out of the way that took too many attempts

well in other news i finished botanist

[remote gate]

congratulations bro

I got my weaver crafter stats high enough to make the crafted gear which is next on my agenda

[rapid whale]

https://tenor.com/view/how-dare-you-screaming-lady-rage-angry-gif-15730816

[dreamy whale]

Yippee

[visual geyser]

#ffxiv-screenshots message

[wicked delta]

[rapid whale]

https://tenor.com/view/hilarious-hey-gif-9959410

[craggy marsh]

remember when there were those people using AI to make their characters look realistic in this channel

cursed shit

[jolly flume]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-force-unleashed-gif-23620078

[visual geyser]

yep lmao

[dreamy whale]

Is it ok to shake akh morns

[dapper zealot]

why would you not?

[zealous meteor]

they what

[dreamy whale]

Dunno just felt right to do so wanted to make sure i wasnt trolling

I saw a stack marker with multiple layers so I was like

“Oh I should shake this for the party”

[boreal pumice]

why would it be trolling?

[dreamy whale]

Using my cooldowns when im not supposed to or something

[versed kayak]

what fight is this for

[boreal pumice]

people really dont care , unless its higher content , its helpful sure but not 100% needed , i sometimes use shake for personal use

[random needle]

Zodiark Normal

[dreamy whale]

Yea

[random needle]

But yeah no, stack markers are like

The thing you'd use Shake for

And raidwides (but stacks are basically raidwides if you think about it)

[dreamy whale]

Okok

So shake is for stuff that affects the whole raid and nascent flash is for stuff that affects both tanks

[dapper zealot]

Raidwides? Localized entirely within your kitchen?

[boreal pumice]

ideally but dont be afraid to use it for your own use

[true beacon]

that fight is also like...

kind of a joke?

[boreal pumice]

ppl still fail on the turns

[versed kayak]

I dont even remember it havin akh mhorn

[boreal pumice]

then your damn numbers and then the stack hurts and ppl fail

[true beacon]

styx

[versed kayak]

why does it even have that, its not a dragon huh

[dreamy whale]

I didnt know what to call it

It was a stack that hit a bunch of times

[boreal pumice]

because thats the first multi stack you think of

[versed kayak]

ah, fair enough them, reasonable name

[boreal pumice]

its like protean

even ppl who didnt alexander at the time call it that

[random needle]

Akh Morn is weird because it can be different things in different fights, but I usually see it known as a multi hit stack marker

[versed kayak]

was great doing A12S with some people and someone actually saying "It's a defamation and the debuff is even called that!"

[whole estuary]

double-stuf oreo

[random needle]

Sometimes you want the whole party in it, sometimes it's just the tanks, sometimes it's two light parties...

[boreal pumice]

a name just sticks like chariot or dynamo

[dreamy whale]

I like zenos hes cool

[boreal pumice]

i just say PB or donuts

[dreamy whale]

He just wants to fight

[random needle]

Shiva circles

[dreamy whale]

My goat

[versed kayak]

chariot and dynamo sticks? Must've missed that memo

[dapper zealot]

I call those circles and donuts

[random needle]

They're out/in

[versed kayak]

did not like ruby weapon reusing those names

[random needle]

It's

It's literally Nael

Of course it'd reuse them

[boreal pumice]

[versed kayak]

I knowww

doesnt mean I like it lmao

[dreamy whale]

I dont know what a lot of these mechanics do so i follow the rest of the party

[boreal pumice]

bait makes sense

[dreamy whale]

I’m supposed to be john tank

Meanwhile im standing in the wrong section of the arena because I didn’t know what color hits where

[boreal pumice]

its just looking at the shapes

triangle and square

[dreamy whale]

Oh was there shapes

I saw big explodey thing and followed the party

[random needle]

Plus it's a wall boss, as long as you have aggro it's pretty chill

[dreamy whale]

I messed up final boss in babil

“Im drowning what”

[boreal pumice]

see this is a square so itl be half the room

[dreamy whale]

“How do i not get hit by the saws”

Oh ok

Makes sense

Ig im not attentive enough

[worn bluff]

FF11 is actually just a chat room where sometimes you get to leave town and fight things

[dreamy whale]

Something i have to work on if I wanna raid seriously

[whole estuary]

Stormblood onwards they get good with making tells

I like DT fights a lot

[dapper zealot]

I find it hilarious I successfully fumbled through the stars mech every time. Then when I realised how it actually worked, I started fucking it up

[dreamy whale]

Ik it’s barely punishing since its normal difficulty but

I still wanna get it right

[true beacon]

its a panini press

[boreal pumice]

some tells love to trick you but once you seen it the first time its ok its this

[dreamy whale]

Grand Cosmos mortal flame probably the worst mechanic Ive ever had to deal with blind

Are we getting ddosed or is my internet fucking up

[boreal pumice]

i understood it quite easily mousing over it and theirs like a warning , the furniture having name plates

[dapper zealot]

That's a punishing mech tbh, even if you do it correctly, someone else can fuck you over

[dreamy whale]

I’m on PS5 i have to fumble with the touchpad if I want to use a cursor

[whole estuary]

I watched what other people were doing but otherwise it's not immediately obvious compared to other body tells yeah

[whole estuary]

oh that's what you meant

[boreal pumice]

i tend to tell ppl the mech if i see a newbie otherwise they are just ded on the floor , then again we have phionex down working in dungeons

[whole estuary]

so that's what a panini is

[verbal frost]

What is the purpose of this chat room?

[jagged aspen]

ig the servers just went boom again?

[dapper zealot]

I've done the fight a bunch of times and never bothered to look up until recently

[dreamy whale]

Yapping about spoilers and raids

[dapper zealot]

There's one corner I naturally drifted towards and that's usually safe

[visual geyser]

cool mech in a shit fight

[jagged aspen]

its general chat #3 that goes abit slower than general chat #2 (beginner-lounge)

[verbal frost]

Is talking about 7.4 content okay?

[visual geyser]

they should reuse it

ye

[boreal pumice]

i just understood the mech quite easily since i coulnt target him might as well look at the enviroment

[jagged aspen]

usually no spoilers right after patch, otherwise sure

[verbal frost]

zodiark? ye.

[dapper zealot]

I loved it when we killed that guy in 7.4

[verbal frost]

Nah I'm meaning like can we talk about upcoming content?

[rapid whale]

spoiler the warrior of light dies in 7.4

[whole estuary]

and when he came back in 7.5

[jagged aspen]

sure, why not lol

ppl talk about lol tournaments here, ur fine

[verbal frost]

I see. I just don't want to get banned again. I got unbanned today after 3 years.

I know they are very strict here.

[whole estuary]

I feel like we should start making a habit of cremating our enemies so that the writing team stops bringint them back

[dreamy whale]

Omg guys this is just like Destiny 2

[dapper zealot]

It was a pretty cheap move tbh

[visual geyser]

Where is your lightsaber

[dreamy whale]

In my vault

[visual geyser]

8.0 should be our Star Wars collab expansion

That will revive this game

[dreamy whale]

No we’ll get star trek and cn will get star wars

[whole estuary]

That would be a Disney collab

which... I wonder why they wouldn't do KH first then

[dreamy whale]

Yeah i was gonna say if we ever get a disney collab i want kh

Imagine viper gets oathkeeper and oblivion

[boreal pumice]

im assuming its because of licencing

[random needle]

Every other FF game is already a thinly veiled Star Wars reference

[boreal pumice]

ff12

[true beacon]

literally FF2

[verbal frost]

I think the only way Zenos is coming back is in an ultimate.

But do I think Zenos is still alive? yeah maybe.

[true beacon]

I mean if you wanna talk lore

[verbal frost]

I just don't think they are going to reuse him.

[true beacon]

#1161031547634327572

[verbal frost]

But do I think Zenos will be the main villain of an ultimate

ye 100%

that's why they skpped stormblood.

[true beacon]

[whole estuary]

Star Wars invented Gustav Holst

[verbal frost]

because he has two major arcs in stormblood and endwalker.

[boreal pumice]

but minor fun fact there is 2 kh references 1 being a weapon called heartless that has the kh symbol for whm and the new hair cut simple an clean (could not be a reference but im going with it)

[rapid whale]

donald duck singing simple and clean .mp3

[dreamy whale]

zetaflare in 8.0

[proper cave]

Yoshida has said before that Disney is the major point of friction

[verbal frost]

Wdym?

[whole estuary]

they must be cutthroat with their terms

[true beacon]

anything not FF Disney owns

[visual geyser]

They could always do legally distinct kh

[boreal pumice]

but who holds the right to sora /riku SE/disney or joint

[dreamy whale]

Twewy collab lol

[true beacon]

Disney

[verbal frost]

I don't really want collabs right now.

If it makes the content cycle even worse.

[whole estuary]

what

[visual geyser]

Arkvield was coo

[verbal frost]

There's always a tradeoff with CBU3.

[whole estuary]

we still need the Doritos collab

[verbal frost]

ha

[whole estuary]

to match the Mtn Dew one

[verbal frost]

the mountain zu?

[proper cave]

MH collabs were both extras that didn’t interfere

[verbal frost]

Yeah

I agree with that

[ember quartz]

dorito alliance raid 24 man limit cut

[whole estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/mgs-diamond-snake-doritos-snack-gif-17304576

[verbal frost]

I think 7.3 was the best patch of the expansion so far.

[whole estuary]

I need this as an emote

[boreal pumice]

and that jp devs are usually drinking buddies anyway

[verbal frost]

Because we got so much content this patch

[dull drum]

LOL

i mean

[verbal frost]

No, I'm being serious

[dull drum]

of the expansion? i guess

[verbal frost]

I think the one issue you can argue

[dull drum]

but comparatively to the rest of the games history?

[verbal frost]

is that the savage bis is useless

which yeah it is useless and Chaotic should have been 7.3

[rapid whale]

doritos strike : if you miss a tooth you get a bleed for the rest of the fight

[verbal frost]

People know that by now.

But look at the content we actually got this patch

[whole estuary]

I like the new DD a lot

[jolly flume]

this patch was saved by q40 for me

[ember quartz]

dorito debuff and it works like the hot potato in T2

[jolly flume]

otherwise I would've been unsubbed again

[dull drum]

yeah q40 is the main sticking point

[jolly flume]

arkveld was fun but an ex and a dd isn't doing it for me for five months

[rapid whale]

mountain dew cleanses a lethargy debuff

[verbal frost]

• New Alliance Raid
• Piligrim Traverse (deep dungeon)
• Final Verse (Quantum) high-end 4 man trial.
• 2 new Extremes (1 mid 1 good)
• New planet (Phaenna)

This is actually a very good patch, imo.

[dull drum]

i havent heard jack shit about the new alliance raid discussion wise

[rapid whale]

the best patch ever was insertfavoritesavagetier

[verbal frost]

There is more sure. This is just what I consider the main content.

[dull drum]

but someone told me it was slop compared to first walk

[verbal frost]

MSQ also ig? but that's a given.

[dreamy whale]

Wish i was playing 1.0 when I was 7

[jolly flume]

idk I liked the first 24 man more

[boreal pumice]

the glams look nice , and ppl losing to kam

[verbal frost]

As a player who did Quantum I think it's a flp.

[dull drum]

99% of people did i think

[jolly flume]

but I'm not the target audience for this shit anyways

[verbal frost]

But it's nice to have the content.

[dreamy whale]

My character would have a sick ass tattoo

[verbal frost]

Quantum is essentially criteron savage.

something that they are... litearlly removing next patch.

[jolly flume]

criterion savage but better

[verbal frost]

well

[jolly flume]

and it was already good

[verbal frost]

It's pretty much just criterion as a whole

[dull drum]

you know what isnt better though

q40 rewards

[dreamy whale]

Bring back Syrcus Tower Savage

[dull drum]

[verbal frost]

Q15 is inaccessible to casuals and even midcore players.

[rapid whale]

ozma is on record for saying if q40 lasted 20 mins like an ultimate, it would be the hardest ultimate in the game

[verbal frost]

The difficulty is already savage level

[dreamy whale]

True its pathetic

[jolly flume]

q15 is

not really savage

[dull drum]

hey at least you get a title

[verbal frost]

idk if I agree with this

actually

[dreamy whale]

Isnt it literally just mourner of light

[verbal frost]

maybe

Q15 is already savage

if u watch a vid of the fight

[boreal pumice]

q40 rewards is basicly do you want more sacks so you can try get mounts to sell to make money

[verbal frost]

it has the same mechanics

it's just that stuff doesn't hit hard

Q15 is basiaclly Criteron level already while Q40 is Criteron Savage

[jolly flume]

it does not have the same mechanics

stuff gets added

it's layered

[verbal frost]

it does

[rapid whale]

i tried q40 for funsies without maxed aetherpool and i had to use tank invuln to survive the bleed

[verbal frost]

watch a vid

[jolly flume]

I've done q15 and 40 both dude

[verbal frost]

I promise you it's pretty much the same thing

[jolly flume]

I don't need to watch a video

[verbal frost]

I've done both.

[boreal pumice]

chiyo has done it

[dull drum]

you're talking to a guy who grinds both

lol

[boreal pumice]

kek

[verbal frost]

I've doe both also.

It's pretty much the same thing imo.

[versed kayak]

Q40 adds a bunch of little extra bits to the mechs

[verbal frost]

The only major differnece I see.

Is that the major mechanics are "easier"

[jolly flume]

and I don't think 20 minutes of q40 being the hardest fight in the game is an exaggeration

[verbal frost]

but the major mechanics aren't the hard part of the fight

IMO.

[versed kayak]

Apparently light/dark timers are also longer in q15

[verbal frost]

the hard part of the fight like mr ozma said

[jolly flume]

they're 3m

[verbal frost]

was the pacing

every 5-10s u are doing a new mechanic

[jolly flume]

it's not the pacing either

[versed kayak]

crazy long

[verbal frost]

and the repeat mechanics are different everytime and harder.

[jolly flume]

it's the fact that you have to juggle background tasks while doing other mechanics

[verbal frost]

I think the whole chain add phase is probably the easiest part tbh.

[dreamy whale]

Guys help something terrible has happened

[jolly flume]

if you look at just the timeline

[verbal frost]

Even if it is a major mechanic.

[rapid whale]

that's what she said about the famous Subway Footlongs ™ get yours today

[jolly flume]

the mechanics are pretty spaced

[dreamy whale]

They sent me to Mare Lamentorum

There’s modbeasts here

[jolly flume]

but you're constantly dealing with mental overhead

of debuffs and hp balance

[dreamy whale]

Oh god there’s so many furries

[verbal frost]

Can we agree

all 3 of the major mechanics are like extreme level

?

[rapid whale]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-you-know-that-tom-ellis-lucifer-morningstar-lucifer-howd-you-know-gif-17380911

[jolly flume]

I don't disagree

[verbal frost]

they are not the hard part of the fight

it's like u said

it's mechanics stacking

and repeating

that's why I said it's the pacing

like if it was a 20m fight it might be the hardest

[versed kayak]

If you can see them, then thats a self inflicted problem

[rapid whale]

i mean by that argument nothing in an ultimate is hard either

[verbal frost]

because it's a consistency check teh whole time.

[jolly flume]

I define pacing differently I guess

but still

[verbal frost]

it's pretty much like

[dreamy whale]

Theyre all in smallclothes and doing push ups

[rapid whale]

individually each part of an ultimate is w/e it's the endurance

[verbal frost]

p5 of FRU for 9 minutes.

[jolly flume]

I think it would easily be harder than the ultimates

[verbal frost]

but not as severe.

[jolly flume]

if it was 20 minutes

[verbal frost]

ye

[jolly flume]

no ultimate requires you

[verbal frost]

just because like u can die on any random mech

in this fight

[jolly flume]

to actually have your brain on for 18 minutes runtime

[verbal frost]

u aren't dying on certain mechs in ultimate if u do u are just trolling

like who is dying to diamond dust in fru

[rapid whale]

yea most ultimates have like full on chill time for downtime trios

[verbal frost]

not to be rude

[dreamy whale]

Probably me

[rapid whale]

oh woe is pf

[verbal frost]

well if u are progging

ye

but when u are going for a clear

[rapid whale]

they die to fof memes dude

[verbal frost]

when u are progging

[rapid whale]

nono in clear parties

[verbal frost]

when u are going for a clear

the only legitimate mechs are APOC and CT

[rapid whale]

the shit i have seen on ppls c41 streams

[verbal frost]

and all of p5

b/c p5 is the hardest phase it's a giant choke check

that's how every ulti is

[rapid whale]

counter argument uwu /jk

[jolly flume]

the choke check in question

walk into/out of line aoes

[verbal frost]

ppl still die to it all the time

I'm not saying it's a hard mechanic

but yeah it requires consistency

[rapid whale]

bro how do so many ppl just stay standing in their line (i say as someone who stands in top p6 puddles)

[verbal frost]

it's like 15 minutes into the fight already

and 1 dps dying sometimes just means it's not clearable

[jolly flume]

it requires consistency to prog efficiently I guess

[verbal frost]

like if u are playing samurai and u die

[jolly flume]

but you can always be that guy who's 2600 pulls into fru

[verbal frost]

you probably just ruined it for the whole party

[jolly flume]

and still hasn't cleared

[verbal frost]

or black mage

[jolly flume]

ok if 1 dps death enrages you in p5

that's kinda sad

[verbal frost]

well it depends on like

[rapid whale]

i thikn th e worst pull count to prog ratio i saw was 3k and on apoc

[verbal frost]

who is dying right

if an astrologian dies who cares

they have raidbuffs

[jolly flume]

no literally any death should fly

[verbal frost]

if a viper dies

[jolly flume]

viper before pitted 2s

[verbal frost]

they lose all of their gauge

[jolly flume]

who cares

[clear plume]

Samurai and blm loses way less for dying than a lot of other jobs to begin with

[jolly flume]

noble cleared a sage doing 7k or smth in p5

that's 7k less than good

[rapid whale]

lmao

[jolly flume]

surely a vpr does not drop to 23k dps

because of one death

it's like 26-7

[verbal frost]

depends on the party in pf idk

[jolly flume]

iunno

I haven't pfed too much since 7.1

but like

two totems recently

still p free

[verbal frost]

I was new to ultimates so I joined a static that started from p1

3/7 of the members had 3k pulls and highest was apoc.

[clear plume]

It’s easy to imagine a group bad enough to not clear anything but it doesn’t make it a good argument I’ve seen groups unable to do Titania dps check

[rapid whale]

ouchies

[jolly flume]

I think our worst kill in p5 in 7.1 had mnk pld death

[verbal frost]

& then I got kicked for asking someone to check if they were doing a mechanic right

because they were pvping me in UR

goat static

[rapid whale]

i've died as the dance partner'd picto in p5 and cleared before

[verbal frost]

nasty work but picto existed back then

[rapid whale]

i swear if we didnt get ming that clear i was gonna delete my chara @jolly flume

[jolly flume]

we skipped the lb3 at the end still

so I think it's still a kill with current pct

but idk for sure

[dreamy whale]

My favorite one is when people are dying to adds mid boss because I didn’t pull one of them before they started aggro and they stand still instead of bringing them to me

[verbal frost]

current pct is drastically worse in p5 tbf

[jolly flume]

pct used to be like 31k p5 now it's 27-8?

[verbal frost]

like 4k cdps worse maybe

[jolly flume]

not a big sample size for me to look at

[verbal frost]

somethig like that yeah

[jolly flume]

out of my own logs

[verbal frost]

peak picto was different

[rapid whale]

do u mean spiney plume cuz that 1 shots non tank

[dreamy whale]

No just in general

[rapid whale]

theres no bringing it over atp lol

[dreamy whale]

Not like dying dying but taking damage

In dungeons and such

[rapid whale]

provoke exists /s yea thats annoying lol

[jolly flume]

idk you just get used to it

first rule of playing support in anything

play like ur entire party is brain damaged

at all times

[dreamy whale]

If i notice it happening i toggle over and tomahawk it but like

[craggy marsh]

Tfw you're doing uwu but you have a dnc so they keep getting the spiney plume targeted on them bc they dont wanna wait 1 second

[dreamy whale]

Pls just bring it over

[verbal frost]

ye that's very true

[rapid whale]

https://tenor.com/view/brush-boy-drinks-paint-gif-23041129

[dreamy whale]

I’m already using aoe on the boss and 3 other adds

[verbal frost]

what even was the original convo

[dreamy whale]

Give it to me

[verbal frost]

but yeah back to quantum / criteron as an extension

I'm a bit disappointed with the new criterion as a redesign

[rapid whale]

Prayge that they just conveniently didnt mention the savage mode ig

[jolly flume]

I liked the adds

[verbal frost]

I think quantum should have had q15 be easier so midcore ppl can realistically clear it

[jolly flume]

not really interested in another boss rush mode

[verbal frost]

and then if the clear rates were decent

[jolly flume]

tbqh

[verbal frost]

tie a 3rd weapon tier

to quantum

to make the pilgrim weapons glow or smth

[whole estuary]

glowing stained glass would be too good

[rapid whale]

they could have gone the aloalo savage route and made the weapons lglow yea

for a q40 clear

[verbal frost]

like don't get me wrong

[jolly flume]

granted the 4 man bosses they cook are usually top quality

[verbal frost]

I do like how the 2nd weapon tier looks

[jolly flume]

but I'll miss having actually interesting adds

for once

[verbal frost]

but if they added a 3rd tier of weapons

that glows

way more people would have actually tried quantum

[whole estuary]

I like the stained glass on the 1st tier better, more colorful

[verbal frost]

and I think q40 should just be content meant for a one time clear or farming if you are really consistent.

[rapid whale]

are yall ready for the new vnc dungeon glam to be top limsa glam tho

[verbal frost]

I think removing criterion savage was dumb.

It clearly didn't take much effort to make criteron savage.

[jolly flume]

honestly more people have done quantum than I expected to

[verbal frost]

I think they need to treat certain content as like

[visual geyser]

nah not really

[verbal frost]

1 time clear because it's supposed to be really hard.

What is the legitimate reaosn for removing criteron savage though

hardcore raiders enjoyed progging it

[jolly flume]

criterion savage takes less effort to make than an unreal and honestly

[verbal frost]

It gave a cool title.

[visual geyser]

no one did it

[jolly flume]

it was fun

[verbal frost]

It's 1 time clearcontent

[verbal frost]

this isn't true.