Idk but I did get clean sanct pulls on EU
#endgame-lounge
daring pine
and people giga drift their stuff in duty finder anyway
wicked delta
Ive been sitting in them near daily lmfao
stone flint
Also i’d just prefer to have it then not because its like half my burst and I want to press buttons
wicked delta
Basically yea
Im leveling healer there rn
So like
I have 3 jobs I can switch between
wicked delta
yea i waited 4 hours today for a party no luck
Thats why im leveling alt jobs cus
Its always 1 fucking role
That never appears
I play melee and there are no healers
I switch to healer and theres no phys range
Ect ect
daring pine
tobi
rain geode
I need to start doing khloe's journals again
daring pine
if one more person sends me a tell asking if im fake melee bc im rdm
im killing them
stone flint
Worst thing is trying to level any tier in the X1-X3 range
Cause you only got like 2 dungeons that give xp
So queues take an hour
Once you get a 3rd in your level range it usually goes way faster
rain geode
yeah finding people to play with is a pain
stone flint
This comes from someone currently trying to level jobs while replaying Shadowbringers on an alt
I guess if all else fails there is duty support
rapid whale
im 2 more games of fall guys away from being done my suffering almost ends
pale blade
It's always the worst-performing people that have the biggest egos
I check people like those out of spite but I don't actively try to get into fights with them either
daring pine
guys
rapid whale
most good players know it takes effort to get there and that comes with mistakes n all that jazz yea
daring pine
is it over
rapid whale
no back to the mines with you
daring pine
life is over
trim frost
is that high level
daring pine
its alliance
daring pine
ct of doom
trim frost
if u have the bozja step that gives you loathsome it's not as bad
daring pine
NOOOO
trim frost
ouch
daring pine
are silver certs worth anything
can i make mony
o i can make like 500k
bro @trim frost
daring pine
i just checked
u can get like 500k from the minions
but i'll just hold onto my certs for now
daring pine
yeaaa
whats so good about ornate pieces anyway
5 slots so its guaranteed?
i was having a look earlier
pale blade
yeah
usually the DPS increase is minimal though
not much better than a non-ornate that's penta'd
pale blade
mainly for money
pale blade
yarp
true beacon
Ornate won’t be worth it until 8.0 tbh
rain geode
oh can you not penta meld 12s?
trim frost
not under normal circumstances no
because you can only put 12s in the first overmeld slot
true beacon
Only to the first overmeld slot
rain geode
ah Ive just been using 11s overall to not "waste" my twelves but since you can only use one anyway
hold on I need to fix my gear melds lmao
robust shoal
Ornate won’t be worth it until 8.0 tbh
still worth in 7.4
pale blade
also how in the sweet hell are ornates "not worth" until 8.0
pale blade
Like I'm pretty sure that ornates have the most use at the beginning of a tier
rapid whale
o i didn’t know it had replay
ye i think it's new feature
alpine plover
you're ornate
rapid whale
ornate deez
pale blade
Yes
After that it falls off
Pretty damn hard, I might add
Unless you are hellbent on collecting those things after the beginning of a given tier, there's no real reason to get your hands on an ornate well after
rain geode
There no way people are manually setting markers this fast how are they doing it
pale blade
are they using presets or
shadow pilot
yeah should be using presets no?
pale blade
yeah I'm pretty sure that no one is that superhumanly fast to set down markers like that
The only other explanation is that it might be coordinated, but unlikely
trim frost
some people have presets that just put "D1C BA4" around the boss
pale blade
I respect that so fucking much
tepid briar
graha don't be a chad challenge
pale blade
graha don't be a chad challenge
okay but have you considered that he is People magazine's Sexiest Man Alive
tepid briar
I heard
dull drum
Ornate won’t be worth it until 8.0 tbh
????
dull drum
ornate is mad expensive but saying its not worth it until 8.0 is like
thats like saying my food isnt worth it till it expires
lmao
pale blade
some people will do anything but admit being wrong lol
pale blade
thats like saying my food isnt worth it till it expires
maybe it's worth it to that one family of rats living in my dumpster
dull drum
one thing too you gotta understand most of these people buying ornate also have generational wealth anyway so value of gil is a non factor
pale blade
Sorry I think I fed my last ornate to the rats
trim frost
thats like saying my food isnt worth it till it expires
kimchi
dull drum
uhhhh
jade nimbus
Isn't ornate worth if you do week 1, and you can skimp on it if you know you gonna take a while to clear?
dull drum
lemme think of a different example
torn kindle
IMO only go for Ornate if you wanna do week 1 race
dull drum
Isn't ornate worth if you do week 1, and you can skimp on it if you know you gon...
basically yeah
torn kindle
Or If your group is super serious about week 1/2 clear
pale blade
But after week 1/2 it falls off hard like I said
It basically ends up being a collector's item after that
torn kindle
The value of ornate is also a bit questionable this tier since we’ll have more capped tomes before savage unlock
pale blade
yarp
pale blade
since the first three weeks + the week of Savage unlock is four weeks of tomes lol
torn kindle
Which is enough for chest+pants
Unless your role’s chest+pants have shit secondary stats, of course
fierce matrix
Most people aren't gonna go for that anyway
I dont think there has been a single tier in the last like
7 tiers
that someones BiS was that
alpine plover
get ornate -> pf -> realize pf is trash -> dont clear week 1 -> replace ornate next week
alpine plover
fierce matrix
Anab had pants/chest bis?
pale blade
Yeah
fierce matrix
On what role?
pale blade
All of them I believe
no wait
I fucking mixed it up
It was Abyssos that had pants/chest BiS from Savage, I believe Striking was one of them
But all tiers since Anab for pants/chest BiS have always been a mix of aug tome and Savage
well except that one time we had Chaotic lol
but that was so goddamn late
Man the DDoSes have killed my drive to do anything else that's productive in this game
I'm just gonna boot up another
rapid whale
Given how many weeks of tome were getting this time I wonder if ornate will be less valuable
torn kindle
Guess it’ll depend on the inherent stats of the ornate vs tomestone
fierce matrix
It was Abyssos that had pants/chest BiS from Savage, I believe Striking was one ...
I'm looking with XIV sim and there isn't a set in Abyssos that had this as far as I am seeing
if anything Striking had both raid pieces
for chest/pants
fierce matrix
Yeah im saying that tomestone chest/pants are not the best unless they changed the stats
pale blade
Pretty sure they've been the same since then
fierce matrix
Yeah with XIVSim its showing that the chest+pants from the raid are better
Chest is Crit/Det and pants are Crit/DH from the raid
Meanwhile tomestone is DH/Det for both pieces
with no crit
pale blade
Yeah maybe I should consider making plans for my own burial then, Abyssos was so fucking long ago
fierce matrix
LOL you just had me confused
cause im like
i do not remember a tier where a job got fucked over that hard
novel garden
Being based by job I would think because I rocked the ornate for this tier until I got raid chest
fierce matrix
and I could be wrong
but I think since like eden its been that way
so I seriously doubt anyone is going to be rolling into savage with both tome chest/tome pants
pale blade
Yeah they're gonna be stingy with tomestones
fierce matrix
itd be better anyway to run tome chest + 1 accessory cause you can augment both w1
and then save your last set of tomes for weapon
so you can augment that aswell
Youll be able to get aug body/legs, accessory and weapon W1 
stone flint
You know what I love
When they put a fate directly in the middle of 17 fucking regular enemies
What I want from a fate is having to fight off a bunch of respawning enemies that are stronger then the fate enemies and also dont progress it at all
trim frost
i forget
are there situations where it's better to run a raid token gear piece over a crafted one for pre-savage prepping
pale blade
dawg we're all fucking old I guess
fierce matrix
are there situations where it's better to run a raid token gear piece over a cra...
yes
daring pine
idk maybe if the stats on the crafted piece are dogshit doodoobutter
fierce matrix
mainly for sks
daring pine
sks/sps i would imagine yeah
trim frost
idk maybe if the stats on the crafted piece are dogshit doodoobutter
another 100 points to piety
daring pine
piety isn't real
fierce matrix
You will occasionally see a random piece of gear be better from the normal tier
but most of the time its normally still beat by crafted cause of penta
novel garden
Stares at my sks materia stack to slot in for monk gear
trim frost
oh yeah i gotta offload most of my materia for patch drop
ive been stockpiling for a while
trim frost
i forget mutamix exists
pale blade
Me too man
trim frost
i don't think i've ever used him
stone flint
Alright hypothetical for yall
Lets say tommorow someone at square fucked up the coding and Riddle of Winds auto speed up was disabled
How long does it take for someone to realize this
pale blade
Yeah the only time I have ever used Mutamix is when I have a fuckload of the "useless" materia (Tenacity, Piety) and I can get a use out of it
stone flint
I think it would be like a week and a half before someone pointed it out and posted it online
trim frost
usually i just toss it towards reconstruction lmao
rain geode
Alright theres 10 clears of Arkveld ex
pale blade
It's not entirely wrong to say that Tenacity and Piety materia is useless because I can just play gamba with Mutamix
valid solar
How long does it take for someone to realize this
Less than 2 days
trim frost
doesn't it also kinda take a while because you can only do 5 at a time
pale blade
yarp
trim frost
blegh
valid solar
Lots of people who spend their time parsing and someone would notice the drop in their dps immediately
stone flint
2 days is still kinda crazy for how many people play this game
Riddle of Wind gotta be up there for useless abilities
trim frost
rather just sell it for cash or to some poor schmuck on the market board
stone flint
Not the follow up Dawntrail added
pale blade
lol
trim frost
materia crystals are $free.99 anyway
pale blade
but yeah I think I like getting a use out of it, to make it into something better
besides I think they're taking up space anyway
If I get more Crit/Det/DH materia out of it, then sure
Every little bit counts
stone flint
Oh yeah btw I haven’t raided in a while but I saw they changed Enshrouds cd to be way lower a few months ago
pale blade
yerp
trim frost
my retainer is holding all my excess materia in its mouth like a squirrel
stone flint
Does the burst phase feel better now
pale blade
did you force-feed your retainer with materia or something
trim frost
yes
pale blade
you sicken me
rain geode
they must have made the Arkveld mount real rare
stone flint
I just looked at the new Reaper burst window
It still has that annoying ass thing where you have to use raid buff in the middle of enshroud
But otherwise god yeah that looks way better
Having to do two shadow of deaths in enshroud sucked ass
rain geode
sadly I didnt manage to get a parse above 50 but I get the feeling healer parses are very dependant on your team lol
stone flint
Is it still like slightly offset because of Perfectio?
Also can the 8.0 job rework thing just give monk a range for gods sake
pale blade
No
stone flint
They already shoot kamehamehas just give them ki blasts
pale blade
No
pale blade
No
trim frost
sss
pale blade
Being a parse-brained dumbass and failing spectacularly at trying to impress the rest of the group
stone flint
Oh god I just had the worst thought
What if Ninja didn’t have a gcd ranged lmao
The class that already does nothing half the time now does nothing 65% of the time
rain geode
What if Bard didn't have GCD ranged
stone flint
What if Bard didn't have GCD ranged
Support only bard
wicked delta
Potential bard
pale blade
What are the odds monk gets fully reworked in 8.0
yes
pale blade
to give them balls
stone flint
What monk needed was a third resource bar
Monk gotta have the ugliest hud in the game
pale blade
I am not a tank and that always gives me psychic damage
Especially when people gapclose too early
pale blade
Revolutionary Reign, specifically the cone cleaves
also the half-room cleave the boss does
stone flint
Eh its kinda just another mechanic
pale blade
Well yeah
stone flint
Although yeah its annoying when people move too early
pale blade
I've gotten that mechanic nailed down and I can gapclose based on the snapshot entirely lol
I mainly just go off sound
stone flint
I use music for raids a lot
pale blade
Using the music for raid timelines is always based
stone flint
Like when I was doing A8S I knew the first time the main chorus of Brute Justice Mode started it was time to line up and mitigate for spread
pale blade
But when it's a looping soundtrack it's kinda hard to do so
stone flint
then do the whole giant aoe bullshit
pale blade
On the other hand, an Ultimate or M8S P2 makes it ez
Oh I'm getting some good materia out of transmuting
I don't remember the specifics about transmuting but the one thing I do remember is that any materia given to Mutamix will not be given as the new materia
jagged aspen
tanks
was def the worst one for tanking. i also never try to cross over before the dash so it looks scary af when i sprint across after
i havent tried melee there yet so not sure what exactly ppl do to greed, you follow him with the dash?
amber fable
novel garden
I went tanking for first time in m8s recently, expected to fuck up revo apparently I did not
jagged aspen
or well, drg specifically. ive seen ppl elusive jump out and immediately gapclose again
jagged aspen
if you dont greed timing is whatever but tank pos can be iffy
ik its supposed to be same range as two circles prior but it looks abit bigger sometimes idk
pale blade
do you think MNK will have their balls removed one day
jagged aspen
what about sage balls
random needle
Thought that came to mind recently
What fights/mechanics do you understand having AM for? What fights make you want to throttle people for having it on?
sinful brook
i understand why people have it for TOP
thats about it any other one is like idk
but even then im sure many people here will agree/say that you don't need it for top
random needle
The only other one I usually see people say is useful is UWU for gaols, but that seems like it's less about the complexity of the mechanic itself and more about the very limited time to adjust you have doing it manually
versed kayak
alpine plover
For pf it's basically mandatory
The only mechanic that i want to throttle people for AM is lightning
In ucob and woth
I understand dynamis and wroth. They are hard mechs
Gaols is fast mech
But lightning?
kind elm
AM for lightning debuff in wrath makes me want to hit someone
just fucking look at your debuff
random needle
Looking at my debuffs and/or seeing the shock of lightning on my head is weawwy weawwy hawd
kind elm
wroth flames i kinda get AM but i still hate it
its not that hard to do a prio system for
but ive seen AM for fucking wrath of the heavens and it makes me want to commit several crimes
loud nymph
what about sage balls
!faq phlegma
storm frostBOT
pine holly
Thought that came to mind recently
What fights/mechanics do you understand havi...
People seemed to expect it in DSR for Wroth
pine holly
but ive seen AM for fucking wrath of the heavens and it makes me want to commit ...
I've also seen that and it's definitely not needed for Wrath.
vapid path
The only mechanic that i want to throttle people for AM is lightning
God I hate that damn am it makes the mech harder than what it actually is just use your eyes
Also the amount of times I've seen it and they still pvp is insane
jagged aspen
is NA still dead? o_o
jagged aspen
Thought that came to mind recently
What fights/mechanics do you understand havi...
if you see AM on FRU p1, run
jolly flume
is na ever not dead
loud nymph
babe it's 9:40 am time for your daily ddos
remote gate
i love being kicked out of my game because someone sent too many amongus to the server
dreamy whale
Surely when they find the person they get prosecuted right
remote gate
the person doing this will never get caught
jade nimbus
Btw speaking of ffxiv
remote gate
if they get caught another person will take their place
jade nimbus
Is ffxib mobile getting new faces?
visual geyser
Surely when they find the person they get prosecuted right
Gotta find calyx
zealous meteor
Gotta find calyx
Beginning to tire? Good.
visual geyser
Ddos protection 
visual geyser
Wol beat calyx so bad he decided revenge was to make the game unplayable
vapid path
if you see AM on FRU p1, run
I'm still new to fru(only at p2) but seeing that for the first time I ran so fast
Didn't help the healer was prepositioning outside the conga
visual geyser
zealous meteor
i mean
GIF - omega planetes mh wilds monster hunter wilds final fantasy monster hunter gif
dreamy whale
wouldnt be surprised if china has stricter laws about it
“If you have more than 2 computers in your house you get publicly executed”
jagged aspen
i mean
> GIF - omega planetes mh wilds monster hunter wilds final fantasy monste...
i have to press like 5 buttons to see that
zealous meteor
tulip anvil
joined a queen eternal merc party
dreamy whale
Should I finish my essay or should I play library of ruina
jolly flume
schoolwork is fake
tulip anvil
we needed 5% echo to skip ice, even tho everyones at 750 and above
dreamy whale
This essay is worth 10% of my grade
zealous meteor
finish your essay
tulip anvil
This essay is worth 10% of my grade
do ur damn essay
dreamy whale
I'm adhd
remote gate
lock in moo
dapper zealot
Do your essay or I'll lock you in dzmael
rain geode
Man its kinda crazy to me how much difference a good team makes
random needle
Anamanaguchi mentioned RAAAAHHHH
jolly flume
welcome to ffxiv
zealous meteor
Man its kinda crazy to me how much difference a good team makes
let me join your party. i'll drag the kill time down to 11:30
rain geode
part 2 of that story
rain geode
let me join your party. i'll drag the kill time down to 11:30
Im gonna be honest if you got the kill time to 11:30 Id be amazed
since im pretty sure enrage timer is 11
dreamy whale
Anamanaguchi mentioned RAAAAHHHH
I only knew them from miku and then I heard other songs and it was kino
zealous meteor
source
loud nymph
is this for necron
rain geode
is this for necron
arkveld
rain geode
We somehow wiped to specifically the 3rd set of tower despite having minimal problems with the first two sets of towers
jolly flume
me when I have to stand in orange thing to not go boom
dreamy whale
Peeping tom mfs when you can visibly see someone’s head turn when they target you
rain geode
I kept my words to myself for obvious reasons but like I was like "guys we've solved this 2 times already this fight how are we fucking this up"
It was really funny how I was like "Yeah Im gonna get 5 kills tonight and then go to bed
get the first 4 clears clean with a decent group especially 2-4 but man after 4 most of that whole group left and the group I found after was something else
This is the Parse from the clear if it gives you any idea
rain geode
I should plug that DNC into xivanalysis
dreamy whale
what the hell
how do you get damage below tanks as dnc and pct
I NEED TO DO MY ESSAY AHHH
zealous meteor
by parsing grey
dreamy whale
@vast jacinth mute me for an hour pls
jolly flume
open another virtual desktop
zealous meteor
anyway i know i cleared on monk but MAN i really want to do arkveld on healer instead
jolly flume
pretend discord doesn't exist
dreamy whale
I’m sitting at like 80% cpu usage with word and chrome open
rain geode
so I misclicked the clear before on xivanalysis were the DNC was good and was very confused when analysis was like "yeah your play is really good"
zealous meteor
i know i should probably focus on getting good with at least one melee dps but carbuncle is calling me
or lasers
rain geode
They never selected a dance partner 💀
vast jacinth
dreamy whale
rain geode
Wait does wiping remove dance partner?
rain geode
So they didnt have a dance partner... for a single pull
that entire time...
I need to keep a closer eye on these kids man
kind elm
im more amazed no one noticed
jade nimbus
Wait does wiping remove dance partner?
Only getting dc
jolly flume
im more amazed no one noticed
something something 1p game
rain geode
Wait now this is a rabbit hole Im looking at the other clears and hes one of the like 2-3 people that was there for every clear
and he played perfectly fine on every other clear but after the 4th clear he just started... omega sucking
jade nimbus
Ah, yes, the pf brain rot
rain geode
Bro really must have let his little cousin take over
dreamy whale
“We’re not gonna get another clear you can play for me buddy”
loud nymph
So they didnt have a dance partner... for a single pull
fuckin hell
dreamy whale
Also I’m almost done with my essay yippee
rain geode
Alright enough gawking at logs I need some sleep then tommorow I get to reprog the fight on RPR
that or maybe necron
jolly flume
I do that on the daily
sinful brook
<@343041379804643329> mute me for an hour pls
learn better self regulation we don't do mutes on request
boreal pumice
could say some bad words but then your just look like an ass
random needle
Yeah I was gonna say, don't break the rules on purpose to get punished anyway
boreal pumice
i used to put off work for so long that id just wake up at like 5am ish an do it on the day
robust shoal
just talk about the star wars cantina band or your favorite ghost pokemon
boreal pumice
but i do like the cantina band music
random needle
One time I put off a project for so long, I ended up using a car accident as a justification to get an extension on it, only to still put it off until the last 8 hours before due time
zealous meteor
just talk about the star wars cantina band or your favorite ghost pokemon
or link the gunbreaker unlock quest
pale blade
just talk about the star wars cantina band or your favorite ghost pokemon
alternatively
quick verge
NTA
zealous meteor
actually. will linking the gunbreaker unlock quest mute me still
or was that just overzealous automod that's been fixed
random needle
(the joke is that the evolution of the Pokémon Yamask has a very unfortunate word in the name, one that tends to trigger automods when typed out)
As such, please please don't actually say it unless you want to get sent to the shadow realm
random needle
... Actually yeah that works
pale blade
Runerigus is the Galarian evolution lol
robust shoal
I mean everything is easier than top
zealous meteor
Runerigus is the Galarian evolution lol
my idiot ass thought you said garlean evolution
what eeveelution would gaius van baelsar use
robust shoal
dsr is my achilles heel but I still think top is significantly harder
kind elm
i dont think theres anything in dsr that matches the complexity of top
robust shoal
I finally did decently in a dsr reprog incidentally
still no orange but close
and got the guide updated
random needle
Wyrmhole is... Definitely a lot
robust shoal
ulti doc officially deprecated, balans website has it all now
random needle
I was gonna try and downplay its difficulty, but I thought about it again and it probably genuinely is the most complex mechanic I've dealt with in any fight up to now
kind elm
ulti doc officially deprecated, balans website has it all now
my bookmark 
gone..
it might just be the fact that ive done the fight a bunch talking, but i do not think p3 is more complex than sanctity or p5
robust shoal
wrath kinda underrated imo
kind elm
LIZZER
🦎
i mean they serve different purposes
so ideally if you are checking people for whatever reason you check both
tomestone will show you prog and potential other clears of stuff very easily
fflogs you can see parses easier
hi sarah
zealous meteor
oh THATS who christmas lady elf cartoon is
random needle
I think Wyrmhole strikes me as more complex because it's a full uptime mechanic, while Wrath and DotH are trios, though I also haven't even seen p5 yet so
kind elm
i can see that
random needle
Sanctity is definitely tough, especially if you get a cursed pattern, but like I said, you can put 100% of your brain on resolving it
kind elm
but once your rotation is baked into your hands for a fight, the mech becomes a hell of alot easier
because youre just watching the mech and as much as i love p3 there really isnt much going on there
random needle
I guess it's slightly annoying for me because the times I need to move during p3 can vary depending on which number I have and which arrow I get/where I'm initially standing for positions, and that changes where I'd pop my Triplecasts/other movements
It's not ultimately that significant, but it's a bit of extra mental load that might make me space out and place a tower wrong or bait a line directly into the stack
kind elm
thats true
but eventually after enough reps youll have the scenarios mostly muscle memory and can adjust on the fly without much mental load
robust shoal
protip move directly through the boss if it's gnash and you have center tower it makes you a cool dude
dreamy whale
I'm glad pf progging mentality is usually chill if you're honest in the listing because new prog for me is a huge mental stack
timber stratus
personally i ragequit and flame if we dont reach 2 mechanics past prog point in random pfs
kind elm
i think my favourite wipe in my DSR prog was when our SGE moved too early out of P3 stack, had the stack on them and fucking exploded off to the side with no other deaths
just
nuked
dreamy whale
doesn't matter how many times I read about it, I can't conceptualize it within a timeline until I see it a couple times for myself
I figured this out in P1 UWU
timber stratus
not me im built diff
kind elm
they have to actually get reps in
kind elm
not me im built diff
spoons you
dreamy whale
oh
zealous meteor
this is true of most ppl
ok i'm not just oupid
well i am but not because of this
kind elm
how many reps it takes you to get it down depends on the person
dreamy whale
ermge
kind elm
there are some mechs that ppl can just eyeball after seeing once, like a lot of EX filler mechs are like that
dreamy whale
does 2 days of prog for unawakened p1 uwu sound bad
dreamy whale
I am new 
kind elm
you are not ready for it yet
you are like
jumping so fucking far ahead
unless you have significantly improved from the last log you showed
dreamy whale
idk if I have bc I don't have a log from my uwu
chiyo has one from prog day 1 and it was atrocious
but I was also super intimidated and had no clue what I was doing
robust shoal
uwu is the easy ulti but it's still ulti
dreamy whale
is it day one or two
timber stratus
its like how driving automatic is easy but you still need to know traffic rules
robust shoal
you literally do an entire phase worth of mechs while an ally raid boss would be showing you they can hit front/back as well as left/right
kind elm
nov 4th
kind elm
bro what the fuck is this log
the person who uploaded it
did uwu, tea, dsr
arkveld ex, unreal
dreamy whale
guh
kind elm
damn
dreamy whale
I had a goat in my pf
zealous meteor
hasn't even cleared top 
robust shoal
absolute specimen
dreamy whale
wait how do you see my log i can't find it
zealous meteor
kind elm
youre "Literally Him" right
zealous meteor
you're not, you just need practice. lots and lots and lots and lots of practice
clear plume
i think id die if i played that much ngl
My new team after a raid trial proceeded to do DSR, top, and then alo savage after some of the group went to bed
kind elm
this log is a lot better than last time but theres still some rough patches
theres alot of points where you just stop gcding
steep narwhal
I'm cooked
how r u cooked if u don't even pf
zealous meteor
how are you cooked with only a 70 culinarian
dreamy whale
i forgor tomahawk
kind elm
if you have to disengage from boss you gotta press tomahawk my guy
theres also a few small gcd clips
kind elm
like theres some fundamentals that gotta be worked on
before id suggest hopping into ult
jolly flume
My new team after a raid trial proceeded to do DSR, top, and then alo savage aft...
I keep missing out on fru totems because the degen gamers I play with wake up after I go to bed
kind elm
it took you 15s to inner release
jolly flume
kind elm
you dont even know your opener
boreal pumice
I keep missing out on fru totems because the degen gamers I play with wake up af...
but you are a degen
kind elm
like youve gotta chill out
dreamy whale
yeah I do I just didn't do it
vestal hollow
extremes exist for you to practice and get better
jolly flume
but you are a degen
I'm a degen but I sleep at normal people hours nowadays
vestal hollow
youre still trying to fucking run a marathon before you can properly walk
dreamy whale
i know what to press I just need to work on pressing it
kind elm
yeah
boreal pumice
yh but soon your be off school right for xmas
vestal hollow
i know what to press I just need to work on pressing it
dont do ults right now
kind elm
oh my god
jolly flume
just learn your job in uwu who cares
vestal hollow
rotation is a basic fundamental expectation in savage and higher content, it isnt a place to get better at a job especially with how nonstandard the timelines are
jolly flume
it's an extreme
vestal hollow
chiyo
zealous meteor
don't give up, but also, listen to the endgame mentor 
clear plume
I’m up for fru but I’d need to derust CT/pf end of p3 bc my group didn’t do the weird ass anti flex in the middle of it
vestal hollow
you are not helping here
steep narwhal
hit a training dummy for like 10 minutes
jolly flume
i'm not trying to be "helpful"
dreamy whale
No yea I'm not trying to ignore sitri I was just saying
clear plume
Even in new ults it’s fine to learn a job in them yeah
You’ll take longer progging it than you’ll need to learn the job
jolly flume
i'm so tired of people acting like uwu is some fucking bastion of difficulty and everyone needs to be god themself at the game to clear it
clear plume
Understand the basics and the rest you’ll pick up
kind elm
the problem is less that theyre learning a job and more that theyre learning the game to begin with
jolly flume
just put in the effort to improve while you're in there
and even if you suck now
it'll be fine by the time you're deep in
dreamy whale
I discovered I was placing my inner release like 2-3 gcds after I should like 2-3 days ago
vestal hollow
i'm so tired of people acting like uwu is some fucking bastion of difficulty and...
You are lacking context here my guy realism or trying to help you are not contributing positively to this conversation
boreal pumice
they've shown the willingness to improve
more effort then say 90% of ppl
jolly flume
not only that but I literally got into ultimates the same way
clear plume
That doesn’t matter either, being bad in an early uwu prog isn’t ruining anybodies life, he’s gotta learn some time
jolly flume
I think if anything I am most qualified to speak about this situation
if you know me you know I don't defend people who don't try
this is not one of those cases
clear plume
Saying don’t try hard content now is how you get the people who think extreme isn’t casual content and ask how they’re supposed to get into endgame when it’s so hard
jolly flume
please get real
dreamy whale
Yeah I found the message where I discovered what my opener is actually supposed to be
A day after uwu
It's BASICALLY the same but I drifted inner release by 2 gcds
no bueno
clear plume
This is somebody who is looking at guides, learning openers, and actively trying their best to learn. There is zero better time for them to jump into content. They’ve done as much msq as people who progged uwu on release did.
vestal hollow
not only that but I literally got into ultimates the same way
You're not an average player.
jolly flume
I was a guy with zero MMO experience
kindred bison
jolly flume
who played shooters
boreal pumice
a D2 player so even worse
dreamy whale
Hi lizzer and cleave
tame shuttle
Wha
dreamy whale
whar
dreamy whale
I didn't think anyone was getting angry or anything
tame shuttle
do i eat food rn and study after
Yes 
steep narwhal
steep narwhal
Yes <:uwucarby:588388854755491860>
ok
dreamy whale
eat while studying
boreal pumice
eat first because your get disrtracted thinking about food
zealous meteor
do i eat food rn and study after
you'll probably study better when you're not hungry
jolly flume
this topic in particular gets me worked up because I am so sick and tired of watching people with motivation get talked down from doing anything hard just because they're "not good enough"
sue me
and 90% of the time the most vocal voices about it are those who have not done the content in question
kindred bison
That isn't a yes or no
dreamy whale
will I get yelled at if I have an ultimate weapon and I mess up a mechanic in an extreme
steep narwhal
no
loud nymph
<a:SpeChewing:837155925033877545> will I get yelled at if I have an ultimate wea...
you can head this off by saying "ultimate legend btw" yourself
worldly grotto
Don’t think people are gonna care honestly
dreamy whale
LMAO
loud nymph
but yeah nobody's gonna care
boreal pumice
no but will be laughed at an say legend btw
zealous meteor
at most people will like, laugh at you somewhere you can't see
worldly grotto
Fucking up is part of the game
zealous meteor
they won't yell at you
kindred bison
I see plenty of people with Ultimate titles and weapons die in content
All I do is Savage myself.
worldly grotto
If you keep fucking up after being told how to solve the mechanic then you might get flamed
loud nymph
especially in extreme which is very generous in terms of difficulty and does not demand perfection
clear plume
If they were going in and not trying at all I’d understand talking them down, but looking at guides and studying rotations and things is already above the average player drive wise and it’s nice to let them put the pen to the paper and test that.
Drive is the most important part of any prog
jolly flume
having an ultimate title speaks nothing of your capability to play the game beyond that one specific fight
so idk why people like to use that shit as a gotcha so much
dreamy whale
ok I just don't wanna get yelled at lol but I do wanna improve and that's why I wanna do uwu cause if I get the harder content down I'm gonna naturally get better
loud nymph
you fuck up, you pick yourself back up and you try to do better the next time
fucking up is part of the game
kindred bison
Ultimate title means you can bang your head against a fight for 100 hours straight.
That's all
random needle
If you *keep* fucking up after being told how to solve the mechanic then you mig...
Yeah, occasional failures are completely expected and people will generally laugh them off
persistent failures at one mechanic, especially if it's before prog point, will be looked on much less favorably
loud nymph
now if you're joining a farm pf and are constantly fucking up the first mechanic or something
you'll get flamed and probably deservedly so
robust shoal
I've only been legend btw'd once, after I backflipped off last boss arena in amaurot on drg
random needle
If you join a Suppression party and consistently bugger Garuda, you should probably go
kindred bison
I've only been legend btw'd once, after I backflipped off last boss arena in ama...
Deserved for not playing DRK like usual
dreamy whale
I stumble my way through it
loud nymph
I stumble my way through it
that's ok, you'll get better with it the more you practice it
random needle
You've seen Ifrit, right? I think Ifrit prog and cleaning up Garuda go hand in hand
dreamy whale
At the very least I don't nuke the party
loud nymph
you'll find mechanics really slow down the more you do them
dreamy whale
yea i saw ifrit twice
loud nymph
when I was learning p12s I couldn't wrap my head around superchain for a long time
random needle
An important part of progging later phases is getting more consistent at the earlier ones, since that way you can practice the later ones more often
loud nymph
but it got to the point where you realize
"oh it's actually very straightforward and I have way more time that I initially thought"
and the only way to really get to that point is to see it
over and over and over
and to fuck up
dreamy whale
I don't really understand ifrit based off the toolbox so I'm a bit worried but it seems like it kinda boils down to "pop a mit in phase change and then invuln for buster"
loud nymph
over and over and over
dreamy whale
at first
kindred bison
"oh it's actually very straightforward and I have way more time that I initially...
Literally how parts of M7S are
loud nymph
Literally how parts of M7S are
yeah exactly
kindred bison
Despite it shitting out damage constantly
loud nymph
m7s especially the third phase seems fucking insane at first
but then you actually do it
random needle
If you can get, oh, 40 pulls in one lockout, and you can go from having 50% of pulls die in Garuda to just 10%, then you've gone from 20 Ifrit attempts to 36, almost double the amount of tries
loud nymph
and it's like "oh this is chill"
loud nymph
fucking up is part of learning the game even if you've cleared a fight you're probably going to fuck things up you've seen 100 times
dreamy whale
I appreciate the mentors and everything but also like
idk like practicing on a dummy is all well and good and I do it when I log on
loud nymph
target dummy practice only gets you so far
jolly flume
can I be real with you
dreamy whale
but at the same time it doesn't matter if I'm under pressure
jolly flume
the mentor role means about as much as the crown in game
steep narwhal
i'm gonna be so for real
ur not practicing in an actual instance
ur not actively pfing
u r gonna remain in this stagnant state until u actually pf and learn
to deal w the emotional stress
random needle
There's a world of difference between hitting a dummy with no mechanics versus actually practicing in the actual fight
loud nymph
target dummy will teach you how to do your rotation when you're doing literally nothing else, but when are you doing literally nothing else?
dreamy whale
Yea that's what I was saying
boreal pumice
under pressure
dreamy whale
it's why I don't like labbing in fighting games
loud nymph
under pressure
pressing down on me, pushing down on you
dreamy whale
I prefer to eat shit for like 30 minutes until I get it
random needle
And that's exactly what prog is
loud nymph
yep
kindred bison
Hitting a dummy ain't going to do shit for ya as a healer
worldly grotto
So basically prog is you going forward and back then forward and back then go forward and back and then one foot forward, forward and back then forward and back then go forward and back and then one foot forward, forward and back then forward and back then go forward and back and then one foot forward,
jolly flume
every person you look at that you think is good
was dogshit
we just played the game more
boreal pumice
Hitting a dummy ain't going to do shit for ya as a healer
1111111111111111 yo my rotation is fire
kindred bison
So basically prog is you going forward and back then forward and back then go fo...
Forward and Backshots
dreamy whale
John Moomoo will finish the essay and get back on aether to prog cleanup for garuda
worldly grotto
Forward and Backshots
Why would you say that
jolly flume
"when does this muscle memory thing everyone talks about kick in"
the answer is
play another 2000 hours
loud nymph
So basically prog is you going forward and back then forward and back then go fo...
prog is when you climb in the ring, we lock eyes and that's when I realize I am free, this is me, this is who I was meant to be, bare my claws, bare my fangs, my heart's racing, it's the will of the fight, as I run, and I howl, at the moon
zealous meteor
I remember when I was like 300 hours in doing ucob
...were you doing ucob at 300 hours in total or were you 300 hours into ucob
kindred bison
Chiyo, how long have you played the game?
worldly grotto
It doesn’t hit the same without the emojis
boreal pumice
"when does this muscle memory thing everyone talks about kick in"
at lvl 54
kindred bison
loud nymph
It doesn’t hit the same without the emojis
true true
zealous meteor
damn
kindred bison
I started in 2.3
dreamy whale
It was a month or two before arkveld
zealous meteor
ok that makes a bit more sense
because i was like "300 hours in i don't think i was even done with stormblood yet"
kindred bison
Lost my sprout at 40 hours during post-arr
jolly flume
I did arr and heavensward and then got itchy feet and wanted to do content
so I just uh
paid for the fast pass
boreal pumice
i started in 5.5
kindred bison
I really should do an Ultimate
loud nymph
I started in like 4.3 but quit very fast and didn't come back until 5.0, then quit again and didn't come back until 5.4 or so
I don't think I even did my first savage until long after edens promise was unlocked and had echo
boreal pumice
im back in crafting ultimate now the 2nd planet is finished im 2/8 crafters finished on all missions
loud nymph
so like maybe 3 months or so before EW
loud nymph
I didn't do any ex until EW launch
jolly flume
or my grades would've been a lot worse than they were
visual geyser
Started in 3.3
boreal pumice
if you startered earlier you would gotten a cheaper sub and a back tat
kindred bison
I started in 2.3, quit due to bad PC at the time. Bought heavensward early access, made my current character on PS4 during HW early access and started again.
visual geyser
But I was poor before
loud nymph
was always too afraid to jump into Diamond ex pf because I didn't know wtf I was doing
kindred bison
Haven't stopped since
visual geyser
I first played the free trial in 2.3 or something
loud nymph
if I'd known how low the bar was for ex I would've jumped in a lot sooner
visual geyser
I kept making accounts to play free trial
kindred bison
I was doing Thordan Ex as my first one lol
boreal pumice
if I'd known how low the bar was for ex I would've jumped in a lot sooner
arr exs give a bad impression of what a ex is like , i give credit to titan
loud nymph
my first (synced) ex was literally zodiark
dull drum
first ex was hydaelyn
loud nymph
I think I did golbez lol
god that was a good fight
dull drum
cleared it during a zoom class
boreal pumice
a raging gale line lives rent free idk why
loud nymph
golbez ex is actually a great example of that "mechanics slow down" thing I mentioned earlier
kindred bison
Heavenly Heel lives rent free in my head
loud nymph
gales 2 felt so fucking undoable at first
but it's actually so easy
you just gotta see it time and time and time again
boreal pumice
zeromus while i think is a decent ex its the meteors that make you hate others do it wrong everyone ded so either sac or be right
spice path
I played a but in 2019 and I still have that character, but its not my main. I started my main in 5.5. First EX synced was 6.0, first savage was P1S
wicked delta
A RAGING GALE TO REND YOU ASUNDER
zealous meteor
oh hey i know that line from normal
spice path
Didn't touch an ulti til last week
zealous meteor
I SHALL FREE US FROM THE WHEEL
kindred bison
"Hey tank, how ya feeling?"
"Okay?"
sound of a dog toy getting stepped on due to Heavenly Heel
loud nymph
I've spent a little time in ultimate mines but never cleared one, never stepped into ucob or tea or dsr or top
robust shoal
moonbitch ex was my first ex but I cleared spooky choochoo before her
boreal pumice
moonbitch ex was my first ex but I cleared spooky choochoo before her
tsukiyomi
zealous meteor
i wanna do TEA at some point but judging by my performance right now i need a LOT more practice before i commit
jolly flume
I did cob > uwu > tea > dsr > top > golbez > anabaseios on echo patch 
I remember pulling up to an fc p9s learning party and they thought I was trolling when I said I hadn't done it yet
kindred bison
Midas then Creator for first two Savage tiers
spice path
We did DSR for 'fun'... through most of p2... I don't know if I want to go back. Ulti never appealed to me. But I guess if the static goes I will try.
loud nymph
both of my ultimate statics have been with the same group of FC people in uwu we got hardstuck in gaols and only saw Ultima weapon like twice, FRU we got stuck on light rampant because nobody else practiced 🙂 🙂 🙂
wicked delta
My bad
loud nymph
never saw p2 intermission
let alone p3 and beyond
we were on diamond dust for like 4 weeks it was painful
robust shoal
stuck on titan gaols
zealous meteor
I remember pulling up to an fc p9s learning party and they thought I was trollin...
like... did they think you were trolling because it was late in the tier and you'd done ultimates, or because you played really well in the fight or something
robust shoal
many such cases
wicked delta
Faith in the AM
jolly flume
like... did they think you were trolling because it was late in the tier and you...
former
zealous meteor
ah
kindred bison
I wonder if we're gonna get Brute Justice as M11
trim frost
money time
jolly flume
if it means I get to listen to metal again I'm down
trim frost
I wonder if we're gonna get Brute Justice as M11
wait that would actually be so fire
zealous meteor
metal or metal brute justice mode
boreal pumice
money time
jolly flume
the good version
loud nymph
TWENTY TWO SECTORS TESTED
jolly flume
I just didnt feel like typing it all out
zealous meteor
we NEED a brute bomber fight though
if he doesn't come back again i'll riot
kindred bison
Brute (Bomber) Justice
kindred bison
We are in Alexandria after all.
zealous meteor
especially if it means hector has to go "this... is hector"
loud nymph
too bad you'll do brutal impact raidwides again and you'll like it
loud nymph
and you'll do lariats
Again
kindred bison
Double Rocket Lariat.
jolly flume
ok to be fair the way they worked lariats into 7 was pretty neat
spice path
I get really hard on myself in savage when I mess up (so I don't often)... In ulti everyone messes up at first, but its way past my limit of personal muck ups I can allow.
loud nymph
yeah
mortal flower
Double Rocket Lariat.
Triple rocket powered spring loaded lariat
loud nymph
I liked 7 honestly the part where it was a fast prog that required a lot of cleaning up was nice
trim frost
i get depressed after a single hour of savage anything
loud nymph
it wasn't peak but it was good
kindred bison
I'm referring to Alexander Brute Justice's double rocket punch tank buster
jolly flume
healers have to do their job imagine that
jolly flume
mountain fire was cool but if they reuse it it's like significantly less cool
mortal flower
mountain fire was cool but if they reuse it it's like significantly less cool
True
jolly flume
my favorite buster is probably still wings dark and light ngl
mortal flower
I just liked how it was designed
The cool factor was juat a bonus
Everyone had to be part of it
trim frost
wings buldak and lemon pepper
mortal flower
It couldn't just be cheesed with invulnerability
It prompted healers to like, heal
And tanks to like, not just press their long and short mit and snooze for the next 20 seconds
dreamy whale
Oh right I was gonna say
trim frost
i do like when tankbusters mandate total group participation
trim frost
feels less like a filler mechanic that way
dreamy whale
I'm noticing that like
mortal flower
feels less like a filler mechanic that way
That's a big issue I think
kindred bison
Valigarmanda Ex is still one of the coolest busters in the game
mortal flower
When 'tank buster' shows up in the cast it's a dead mech for everyone but the tanks
dreamy whale
it sems that attacks where you have to hide or take cover are the ones that tend to kill through invuln
mortal flower
Meaning everyone gets 15+ seconds of nothing happening
kindred bison
When 'tank buster' shows up in the cast it's a dead mech for everyone but the ta...
Me eating the pans from Kefka as WHM and walking it off
trim frost
we need more terrain-changing mechanics
jolly flume
they only do busters as actual mechanics in ultimate for the most part
trim frost
like uh
jolly flume
which is lame
boreal pumice
Me eating the pans from Kefka as WHM and walking it off
trim frost
whatever the fuck it's called in e4s
jolly flume
e4sp2 is still a lot more lame than p1 but tectonic is still a very cool concept
dreamy whale
like uh
the one that makes a blue pit in the ground and it makes you die if you stay in there too long but you have to go there to survive the raidwide aoe
trim frost
stares at p7s
boreal pumice
what you dont like the basic square with pattern and lines that will do somthing with a mech
trim frost
oh spectral berserker
dreamy whale
I really like E3
loud nymph
the one that makes a blue pit in the ground and it makes you die if you stay in ...
that's a cool one for a normal mechanic tbh
dreamy whale
is the savage for E3 good
kindred bison
Yeah
dreamy whale
Maybe I'll pf it tomorrow
kindred bison
Black Smokers gets reused in Ifrit and Garuda Savage though
kindred bison
Then used again in P3S
boreal pumice
what's 3 again
buy a phone
loud nymph
what's 3 again
leviathan leviathan
jolly flume
oh it's leviathan
loud nymph
leviathan leviathan
dreamy whale
Hey so I have a drs appointment tomorrow when do I stop eating today
kindred bison
E12S was damn fun though
dreamy whale
its a new patient appointment so they might do bloodwork
mortal flower
I also like DT EX2 for the final phase.
dreamy whale
lol
mortal flower
I need more fast panic mechs
mortal flower
Low effort but high panic-ability
trim frost
i need to do drs soon