endgame-lounge

[kind elm]

p1 is also like 2minutes

[jagged aspen]

every phase of every ult is about 2 mins

besides last phases

[jolly flume]

me when I lie

[kind elm]

what is bro on about

[remote gate]

really like dsr though and might just drop tea for it since pf is actually doing dsr

[wicked delta]

i trolled a sanct party so hard yesterday

but it was also like

3 am

[random needle]

Point being, it's fine to suck at Sanctity for a bit, it's the second mechanic of the fight (p1 isn't real) and that's a big chunk of progging p2

[kind elm]

you will wipe to sanctity in 80% of your pulls even when youre reclearing

[random needle]

You need to not suck eventually though, because getting through p2 cleanly is gonna be important for making any reasonable prog later on

[jagged aspen]

sounds fun

[jolly flume]

its either sanctity or doth

dont look at eyes challenge

impossible

literally

[jagged aspen]

are ppl messing up meteors 80% or what?

[remote gate]

p6 is when thordan takes over nidd and hare right

[kind elm]

me when the mechanic is look over there

[random needle]

Both second mechanics of both Thordan trios phases interesting

[jolly flume]

✅

[random needle]

p6 is double dragons, yes

[kind elm]

chiyo you might know this and i dont remember

[wicked delta]

this game hates me

[remote gate]

https://tenor.com/view/hraesvelgr-dsr-dragonsong-ffxiv-soggy-gif-187864548329800776

[kind elm]

is p6 the longest phase in dsr

it feels like it

[jolly flume]

I swore - swore that I would not take the lives of mortals. Stop me, I prithee!

nah p7 is still the longest

p6 is like 3 minutes to hard enrage

[random needle]

p1 is the vault, p2 is Thordan, p3 is Estinidhogg, p4 is the eyes, intermission is back in the vault, p5 is Thordan but more evil, p6 is double dragons, p7 is Dragon King Thordan

[kind elm]

fuck ass dragon king

[jolly flume]

but usually more like 2:30 because lol

[kind elm]

"estinidhogg" ok die actualy

[trim frost]

ass dragon king

[kind elm]

its nidstinien

[jolly flume]

never getting to hear the end of dragonsong 🥀

[kind elm]

ok that was aggressive

sorry

but still!

nidstinien

[zealous meteor]

🎶 NIDHOGG
he's a big angry wyrm 🎶

[kind elm]

none of this estinidhogg shit

[trim frost]

i'm pretending to understand what any of this means

[remote gate]

is dragon king like every ultimate final phase with its own bullshit mechanics or is it like g.bahamut where's it's just the same thing over and over until wipe

[zealous meteor]

estinidhogg just sounds so awkward

[jolly flume]

who up nidding they hogg

[trim frost]

it's just like how you never hear the full theme of the aetherfont in the dungeon

[zealous meteor]

nidstinien is better

[jolly flume]

theres no final phase with bullshit mechanics

its all piss easy shit dont choke

[trim frost]

wow guys aetherfont mentioned time to post 4k 120fps gif of summoner rotation

[kind elm]

literally

[loud nymph]

ESTINIENNNNNNNNN

HE'S NOT THE AZURE DRAGOON ANYMORE

[kind elm]

every ult final phase

[random needle]

It has 3 mechanics that loop a couple times, and autos that everyone has to be not asleep for

[kind elm]

is just baby mechanics

[jolly flume]

dps payphone

[kind elm]

that just go "this is easy dont fuck it up"

then you fuck it up

[jolly flume]

healers sweat

[jagged aspen]

does any ult last phase not have exalines? (flares etc)

[jolly flume]

sometimes tanks sweat

[remote gate]

fate calibration scares me thats why I ask

[random needle]

He's got exaflares, he's got towers, and he's got normal flares

[kind elm]

uwu

[zealous meteor]

if jocat ever does dsr he better use the estinien button every time he gets to phase 3

[jolly flume]

fate cal is legit the stupidest easiest mechanic ever

you get a telegraph and 20 seconds to resolve it

holy moly

[kind elm]

and tea

[jolly flume]

tea has trines if you cope really hard

[kind elm]

so yeah about 33% of them

[jolly flume]

I guess

[kind elm]

its like a 40s long telegraph as well its so funny

[random needle]

And the autos are just "tanks swap between every mechanic, and one non-tank steps in hitbox for every auto to take it"

[jagged aspen]

ok but uwu idk what even counts as last phase 😄

the entire ultima?

[kind elm]

mf spends 40s telling you "YOU ARE LIGHT BEACON" then you still jump on party together

[remote gate]

idk man when I watch povs so much is happening and trying to focus on your clone overstimulates me

[kind elm]

and kill everyone

so the trick is

to just look at ur clone

and nothing else

[remote gate]

literally only suppression is the remotely hard part of uwu

[random needle]

I think it's generally agreed that all of Ultima is one phase for uwu,

[random needle]

Also gaols

[kind elm]

you do not need to look at any other clone

than your own

look at your own clone

[remote gate]

even then remotely is vaguely from the truth

[kind elm]

find safespot

see if stack/spread

profit

[jagged aspen]

uwu is just built different from every other ult

[jolly flume]

built wrong

[kind elm]

like u

[remote gate]

im gonna be real with you sapp gaols is not hard at all

[jolly flume]

fucked up man

cant believe you'd say that

[thin tartan]

hardest fucking mechanic

[random needle]

I'm built different (worse)

[remote gate]

do you know how snapshots work in this game? if yes then you can do gaols

[jagged aspen]

landslides teach snapshots

[jolly flume]

https://tenor.com/view/tea-ffxiv-stillness-meme-ordained-stillness-ff14-gif-7878746418226500592

[kind elm]

the hardest mechanic in every ult is whatever im doing (im watching youtube)

[random needle]

I'd say "big ask for PF", but Garuda is a big ask for PF too

[jagged aspen]

filling the party is hardest mech then

[wicked delta]

should i do it

[zealous meteor]

is there anything t hat isn't a big ask for PF

[remote gate]

am I crazy or was that drk NOT suppose to move

[kind elm]

only if u stream

[jagged aspen]

arent you on p3

[wicked delta]

💀

[wicked delta]

i still fuck up meteors on the regular

[jagged aspen]

oh that was someone else ig

ye but a group called "p2 meteors" is "ive seen it once from floor pov" no?

aka youll be lucky to get there twice in a lockout

[remote gate]

speaking of Garuda I filled the other day for a titan prog and the team was killing garuda at wicked wheel and not at awaken which was mindblowing to me

[thin tartan]

everything is meteor prog

wdym

[wicked delta]

evil white woman

[remote gate]

had mnk/smn/dnc/sam dps comp too

[jolly flume]

woof

[wicked delta]

oh brother

[jolly flume]

gonna make an alt just to add to your list of eu simps

[kind elm]

a group called "20+ clears only reclear party" is meteors

[zealous meteor]

barking at a white woman
you would fit right in with the lesbian community

[wicked delta]

dont be a male bunny so you actually stand out

[random needle]

I once died to the ice puddles in meteors twice in a row and I loathed myself for it

[zealous meteor]

what about mail bunny (viera in a postmoogle cap)

[wicked delta]

still a bunny

not unique i fear

[zealous meteor]

what if it's a female bunny

[wicked delta]

my point stands

[remote gate]

not unique

[zealous meteor]

what if uhhhhh

someone who modded their character to be a loporrit

[jolly flume]

I would never

[zealous meteor]

in a postmoogle cap

[remote gate]

only you would be able to see it in game sam

[kind elm]

sometimes you just get silly things in DSR its such a banger fight

[wicked delta]

loporitts have never done anything good for this world

[zealous meteor]

there's uhhh lightless or some shit now right

[jolly flume]

shut up

they invented the lop hop

[wicked delta]

okay

1 good thing then

[jolly flume]

[random needle]

Black Mages trying to stay in their leylines like

[zealous meteor]

also they're adorable

(important)

[jagged aspen]

speaking of blm why are they so strong sub 100?

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/smlbub-bunny-explode-bunny-explosion-gif-14547714632165971053

[random needle]

Built different (better)

[remote gate]

xenoglossy spam

imagine having an 880 potency attack every 15 seconds but then you have a 120 ability that just gives you another

[kind elm]

we wiped immediately after this to meteors btw

[zealous meteor]

it's every 30 seconds

[remote gate]

so then imagine using three 880 potency attacks one after the other in burst cycles

[jolly flume]

thats honestly

not even that much lol

when you consider the damage profiles of most jobs in this game

[zealous meteor]

black mages are just too cool

[jagged aspen]

like why do they go from being one of the worst dp to second best

[remote gate]

wasnt that the main reason why blm was so busted in EW

[zealous meteor]

especially lalafell black mages. all the anger is concentrated in a tiny package

[random needle]

I just like being able to do consistent damage irrespective of burst windows

[remote gate]

also non-standard rotation 🥀

[zealous meteor]

that's dance partner priority right?

[jagged aspen]

yes

which would also heavily emphasize 2min windows

[jolly flume]

because literally every job got a new capstone skill in dt that increases their burst value by a significant amount

[remote gate]

yes but who benefits from standard finish boast the most

[jolly flume]

black mage got flare star

[wicked delta]

i forgot how cute my bunny is as a femra

[jolly flume]

which is cool but not

that cool

[jolly flume]

🐶

[remote gate]

hey sapp tell the chat how much flare star sucks

[random needle]

I... don't think I got to Lv100 before the 7.2 changes so I can't speak to how it felt with the old system

[kind elm]

i fucking love flare star

[random needle]

But I can do two Flare Stars in my opener and that makes me feel giddy

I want to make a truth nuke gif of flare star

[remote gate]

no way you were supposed to say that it sucks!!

blm players hate flare star!

[clear plume]

BLM was made a lot better in old fights bc of how xeno works during downtime now, which is the biggest change

[random needle]

I am ungovernable

[clear plume]

In full uptime it would still be worse

But full uptime doesn’t exist in the fights you’re doing 90 blm in

[quick verge]

230 messages since 11:27am

it is monday morning

is it monday? idk

[clear plume]

It’s why it has DSR/top listed, dropping 5 xeno in a row at the start of every phase of TOP/DSR into devilment is pretty damn good

[random needle]

This is also true, we may not have motifs like PCT does, but being able to get a fire phase prepped during downtime and effectively skipping ice is very handy

And that too

[remote gate]

time change got me acting up and messed up work schedule

[random needle]

I need to check the encounter timelines for current BLM, see what spots are best for burning Xenos in

[jolly flume]

I was cleaning out my macros the other day and came across my old umbral soul wait.14 macro

it's not the same

[wicked delta]

straightest catboy

[jolly flume]

if I saw that in pf I'd kick

[random needle]

I think I'm currently full sending my Xenos at the end of p2 in DSR, and I haven't seen the end of p3 often enough to know if I should do it there too or save it for eyes

[wicked delta]

LOL

[jolly flume]

technically if you just want your funny number

you send all your xenos after ultimate end to pad on the vuln he gets

[random needle]

Is there any phase at this point where there's a snowball's chance in hell we see enrage if no one dies, or are we past that with current gear

[wicked delta]

i kinda wanna take a shower i hope this party doesnt fill all at once

[jolly flume]

no

lol

[clear plume]

Save as much burst as possible for eyes, it’s a phase where fuckups can be overcome with way higher dps than you need to clear

[jagged aspen]

that you?

[wicked delta]

ermmm

dont expose me

wtf

[clear plume]

We were beyond that on release

DSR was never tight

[jolly flume]

straight up bjorking it

[wicked delta]

she kata my rina till i bjorklund

[jolly flume]

in a party that is half decent with pots:
thordan 1 dies at the wall after UE
nidhogg is dead during drachenlance
eyes is dead before steep in rage goes off
intermission lol
thordan 2 is dead before the second heavenly heel finishes
double dragons is castlocked 0.1% at cauterize
dkt is dead halfway through am3

[random needle]

Should I prioritize one eye or the other for p4? Or does it not really matter? I'm leaning towards focusing the red one since I'm ranged

[jolly flume]

idk colors

smack the one on the right down to 40 then switch

[wicked delta]

this party's already looking kinda cooked

[clear plume]

If you’re melee hit the one you’re on

Samurai can dot the other but like

[wicked delta]

reaper, viper, dancer, white mage

[clear plume]

As ninja/monk I just trust the ranged to handle right eye

[random needle]

Yeah that's kinda what I'm thinking, melees can hug the left eye more often

[wicked delta]

bruh theres like

4 fem vieras in this party

and 1 catgirl

[random needle]

And intermission is just "do the last mechanic of p1 again but with a second DPS check"

[zealous meteor]

i thought toby was a catboy

[random needle]

For me as caster at least

[wicked delta]

my eu character has always been bunny

[zealous meteor]

actually @wicked delta is your NA account a bun or is that your EU one

[jolly flume]

oh yeah

I said p4 was the hardest check in the fight once didn't I

I was lying

[wicked delta]

my na main is also bunny

[jolly flume]

it's the spear

[wicked delta]

my raid alt is catboy

[jolly flume]

idk how people fail that shit sometimes

[random needle]

Once the knight is below 30%, you can theoretically save stuff for the spear, right?

[jolly flume]

there's no reason to send more resources on him at that point so just bank gauge

not that you really should have to but like

sometimes people just fail that check for fun

[quick verge]

rewind is 2m into like

[random needle]

It's so funny how they made it so the fight can just infinitely loop like that

[quick verge]

the slowest castbar

you've ever seen

[jolly flume]

my reign begins :3

[wicked delta]

oh BROTHER

not even trying to be subtle

[jolly flume]

that's a cute catgirl

[wicked delta]

yea shes cute

not the pink lesbian catgirl that always stares at me though

i miss her

[dreamy whale]

I gotta be more aware

I dropped a couple aoe combos in akademia anyder

[boreal pumice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1151511302653612182.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=agrias_smh

[zealous meteor]

what's their name
i need to /poke you

[wicked delta]

maple quintus lol

[dull drum]

maple quintus more like

maple syrup

[zealous meteor]

poking you as soon as we're online at the same time :3c

[zealous meteor]

GAYple

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/jose-mourinho-sweet-trouble-gif-26762341

[wicked delta]

i found a brit

[zealous meteor]

how do you know they're british

[wicked delta]

cus he told me

[zealous meteor]

horrible

block him

[valid solar]

did someone say dsr

[wicked delta]

sorry bunger this is on eu

[valid solar]

cooked

[wicked delta]

your internet would literally explode

[alpine plover]

wait that's bungo

[jagged aspen]

what would happen if i try playing healer

[wicked delta]

ENDGAME LOUNGER IN MY DSR PARTY

[random needle]

I've never actually seen what my connection is like on EU

[wicked delta]

[jagged aspen]

shorely nothing can go wrong

[wicked delta]

[alpine plover]

with pure healer yea just sleep

[jagged aspen]

if you have alexander or noclippy it should be fine. otherwise its kinda miserable

[alpine plover]

if you play shield healer in dsr and you dk what to do...

[wicked delta]

this mf...

on sage

[jagged aspen]

i just eprog everything

[wicked delta]

how cooked are we

[jagged aspen]

ez

[jolly flume]

eprog everything is kinda the baseline

[alpine plover]

what progpoint are u on tobi

[wintry elbow]

is there something i do with the exp after level 100? i thought it said there was a bank or something

[jade nimbus]

Nah

[loud nymph]

for exp? No

[wicked delta]

p3 fresh but i keep trolling sanct

so i wanna practice it

so i stop trolling sanct

[alpine plover]

eh you're fine then

[wintry elbow]

what was that bank for then? when it showed me 2 jobs?

[dreamy whale]

[alpine plover]

just tell riv to holos transition or smth

[dreamy whale]

Bros what's wrong with me

I'm unable to cook after that ultimate

Can't manage cooldowns, can't hit my weaves

Also might be because my hands are cold

[wicked delta]

tanks?

[jagged aspen]

implying we get to transition

[valid solar]

toby you should stream

so I can watch dsr

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-flop-flopper-stupid-cute-gif-11370559827261708591

[loud nymph]

I have genuinely no idea what you're talking about

[valid solar]

did the party disband already

[wicked delta]

no

i just dont know if i can stream

lol

[valid solar]

cooked

[random needle]

You might be thinking about either the armoury bonus (jobs lower than your highest one get an exp boost) or the rested bonus (logging out/AFKing in Sanctuaries gives you an exp bonus shown on the exp gauge)

[zealous meteor]

who

[wicked delta]

riv

hes on sage

surely

wont grief

[zealous meteor]

at least it's not wh*te mage

[wicked delta]

?

[jagged aspen]

i would if it wasnt taken lol

[jolly flume]

whm isn't that awful in dsr tbh

with the asterisk of either having a sch coheal or a pld

[wintry elbow]

what is the Armoury bonus?

because i think that is it

[random needle]

Read my message again, including the parts in parentheses, because I just explained it

[wintry elbow]

how do the lower jobs get the exp? do i distrubit it?

[random needle]

You just

Play the job

And it gets more exp

[wintry elbow]

got it. that was what i was looking for. its for exp mobs and fates is what the internet says. ty 😄

[pale blade]

I think this is how I imagine endgame loungers' glams to be like

[loud nymph]

I just wear the pink thong and nothing else tbh

[jolly flume]

all my glams are robes

[pale blade]

does it have a pink thong

[jolly flume]

perhaps

why don't you find out

[jagged aspen]

.>

[valid solar]

with how often you've been here lately I fear this includes you

[pale blade]

Did I specifically exclude myself

[random needle]

I think my glam for most jobs is reasonable, except my Ninja gear literally just being a swimsuit

[jagged aspen]

do ppl actually have different glams per job?

or well, will they after patch?

[valid solar]

yes

I dont share the same glam on any job

[worn bluff]

only crafters

are the same

[loud nymph]

the patch doesn't matter to me because eggplant glam is class universal and peak

[valid solar]

yeah only crafter and getherer for me as well

[worn bluff]

only because there aren't enough plates

[jolly flume]

I think only my sam plate is like

a bikini and shorts

because I made that way back when and havent bothered to update it ever

[random needle]

I like making different fits for my different jobs, but it causes some problems when I don't really have a "default" appearance in mind for my character

[valid solar]

on the note of character appearance, ive been trying out that one hairᵀᴹ and its not too bad as long as you look at it from the side\

[random needle]

I'd like to have more ninja-esque gear but I don't really vibe with anything I've seen

[worn bluff]

i think i only have one glam that shows skin for some reason

oh wait no i have a bunch of the arcadion coat glams

[random needle]

The pinnacle of stealth, clearly

[worn bluff]

i'm bad at coming up with glams that don't use pants

[jolly flume]

no pants is meta

according to limsa

[jagged aspen]

no anything you mean

[pale blade]

I can finally use my FSH glam on all combat jobs

[worn bluff]

i would level BLM if i could make a good fern glam

and then i would spam one spell only

[jolly flume]

someone had a pretty good fern cosplay for my fc's halloween event

[tame shuttle]

Chiyo

[jolly flume]

aloo

[random needle]

Who's fern

[jolly flume]

purple hair chick from frieren

[random needle]

I should watch that sometime maybe, I've heard good things (and been told to ignore the Weirdos™️)

[jolly flume]

we had two frierens and a dead himmel too

[random needle]

I've just defaulted to the DT BLM gear honestly

[tame shuttle]

Car

[random needle]

https://tenor.com/view/car-the-cat-bounce-smile-happiness-excited-joy-cute-scary-creature-car-cat-bounce-bouncy-gif-5172289699316261402

I might mess around with dyes when I finally get the role quests done, but I think the default colors already work nice

[tame shuttle]

I honestly like it a lot

[random needle]

I like a lot of the BLM artifact gears honestly

I don't really vibe with the Stormblood one but most of the others are at least pretty nice

[tame shuttle]

real

[boreal pumice]

i just wear a suit with tats +arr relic for blm

[random needle]

Infinite blessing to finally have the hats accessible

The fact that this specific hat was used in the 7.3 LL to demonstrate hroth/Viera hats being a thing feels like it was meant for me personally (it wasn't, but still)

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/soggy-cat-soggy-cat-cat-meme-silly-gif-1947576969338905744

[random needle]

Also the hand tattoos go crazy hard, this is probably the one thing I'm gonna try to put on all my other jobs

[whole estuary]

you can even put those on the custom delivery npcs

[random needle]

True!

[wicked delta]

your shit looks fried man

[whole estuary]

except M'naago, no goth catte M'naago for you

[boreal pumice]

poor mango

[worn bluff]

is good show

[random needle]

I don't think you can glam Ehl Tou(?) either, though I sorta understand why

[jolly flume]

should I know who ehl tou is

[worn bluff]

i couldn't find a staff that looks like fern's

[random needle]

Custom Delivery NPC

[boreal pumice]

dragon

[jolly flume]

w h omegalul

[boreal pumice]

you only meet in side quests yellow ones

[daring pine]

firmament npc

shb custom deliveries

[random needle]

There's like... 2 or so delivery clients in the firmament, him and Charlemend and maybe another but I don't think there's a third

[boreal pumice]

charlie and dragon boy

[whole estuary]

For some reason Firmament is available on Free Trial, but not Charlemend/Ehl Tou deliveries

also the framer kits for the ARR tribes don't get unlocked until you are off free trial

[random needle]

Presumably because those are Lv70-80 technically, while Firmament is like 20-80 or something

[dreamy whale]

Hi bros

[low hearth]

Yo

[rapid whale]

did you go back into uwu

[wicked delta]

surely thats not a real life pic of you

[rapid whale]

if elara astreya is in here you're the goat

[jagged aspen]

how tf is the pf still up

[rapid whale]

desperation

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-passed-out-cat-dead-cat-kitty-sleep-gif-17010657718878120348

[wintry elbow]

is the antique helm outdated and i just toss that stuff?

[rapid whale]

is that a pun

[loud nymph]

no, you can trade it in for the older AF armor sets in Mor Dhona

if you want extra GC seals that is

[wintry elbow]

those older sets have worse stats then the stuff i get with poetics, or are they better?

[zealous meteor]

they're worse

[loud nymph]

Worse. Those sets are at best IL90 while the ARR poetics gear is IL130.

So there's no need unless you want to trade them in for grand company seals

[wintry elbow]

grand company seals? you mean were i trade in all my untradeable/unsellable gear?

[loud nymph]

yeah, you can buy the AF gear with ancient whatevers and then trade that AF gear in for seals via expert delivery

If you want

[wintry elbow]

that seems like a lot of work for seals i don't use anyways. why do i want seals?

[loud nymph]

I mean, that's entirely up to you, maybe you wanna gamba for mounts, maybe you wanna sell coke or glamour prisms, maybe you want to do HW relics

[rapid whale]

you're not wrong for thinking it's generally more trouble than it's worth because seals are very easy to come by once you get to later game

[loud nymph]

Yeah, we're talking at most like 600 seals per piece of AF gear whereas at level 100 you're talking 2000 seals per item you turn in

Nothing wrong with trashing it if you can't be bothered

[wintry elbow]

i am at the later game, thats why i am in endgame-lounge, i am just trying to figure out what to do with my junk stuff in inventory.

and if the stuff is junk

[loud nymph]

In the case of these items, they aren't trash - they have a use, it's just kinda overshadowed by other things

[wintry elbow]

ok

[rain geode]

I think Im going to try the unreal tonight

[dull drum]

its ok you dont do anything in that fight anyway

[jolly flume]

literally

[loud nymph]

it's genuinely free

assuming your pf can do stacks/towers

and tank swaps

(or not, if you just have PLD/GNB)

[whole estuary]

even if they can't do towers perfectly, the damage check is generous that you can afford some deaths/damage downs if the party still knows how to press their buttons

[loud nymph]

yeah, you can miss a tower and still never see enrage

even with the party wide damage down

it's genuinely free so get your leaves while you can

because tsuyukomi is gonna be fun

[zealous meteor]

is it still free if i've never done normal seiryu ex

[rain geode]

Nice to know its free I was gonna learn the unreal and then ex arkveld

[zealous meteor]

like i'm assuming i still need to study the fight right

[loud nymph]

yes

[jolly flume]

lol

lol

lol

[loud nymph]

it's so fucking free

it's almost as easy as byakko

[jolly flume]

the entire fight is dodge telegraphed aoe

except towers

[zealous meteor]

i have never gone into unreal period to be clear

[rain geode]

well you know if this queue every pops

[jolly flume]

and it doesn't even matter if you fail towers

[zealous meteor]

wait what

[loud nymph]

yes

[jolly flume]

if you fail an aoe

guess what

it doesnt matter

[loud nymph]

it is literally just "see aoe, dodge out of it"

[jolly flume]

dont know what snakes do? don't know how to read the knockback?

who cares

just go for a swim and come back unharmed

LOL

[rapid whale]

unreal is just extremes tuned to 100

hop into the mines

[zealous meteor]

i know it's an old extreme but this is my first one ever

[rapid whale]

somethings gotta be your first one ever

be like moo and just hop in

[jolly flume]

the only time I saw a seiryu wipe was when nobody told me the tankbuster was a cleave (I went in blind as fuck into a t+rt party) and I killed everyone with it

the actual mechanics are like nigh on impossible to die to

[whole estuary]

You can watch a quick guide video, I think you'll feel pretty confident after seeing it

[loud nymph]

the only part of Seiryu unreal that pf fucks up:

serpent ascending (4 players soak towers, 4 players have spreads) - even if you fail and miss a tower it doesn't matter
cursekeeper (tank swap, if tanks don't swap you all die) - not your problem if you're not a tank

[whole estuary]

even though it's Unreal, it has a practice mode for the first phase as if it is a normal trial....

[jolly flume]

that shit is literally easier than some normal trials

[zealous meteor]

i cleared sphene normal, am i ready for seiryu unreal

[loud nymph]

the vast majority of the fight is "watch the giant do a slow telegraphed AOE on half of the arena and don't be on that half"

and "watch the symbol on the boss for whether he does in->out or out->in"

[whole estuary]

yeah, it's even easier than Sphene normal's Here's Everything At the Same Time mode

[jolly flume]

fully optional mechanics btw

if you get hit

half hp and a vuln stack

who cares

[loud nymph]

and yeah, it's not death if you get hit

[random needle]

Absolute Authority my beloved

[whole estuary]

twice in a row is death, but come on

[loud nymph]

the only mech that will outright kill you if you fuck up is the cross lines and even then

[whole estuary]

it's the normal mode giant l/r slam you've seen everywhere

[jolly flume]

I just tbn my melee and stand in the pointblank for uptime

[zealous meteor]

i see i see

[loud nymph]

the enrage is so generous

that dying doesn't matter

[rain geode]

so what your saying is Im certainly getting a clear before reset

assuming I can find a party

[jolly flume]

I cleared in two pulls blind

[loud nymph]

definitely

[jolly flume]

and the first one, again, was because I killed the entire party with a tankbuster I didn't know was a cleave

[loud nymph]

I hesitate to call it pf proof

[shy obsidian]

Any tips for samurai optimization

[loud nymph]

but it's basically pf proof

[whole estuary]

study the blade

[zealous meteor]

to be fair you've actually cleared high end content before

closest i got was a 35% on necron

[jolly flume]

I mean yeah but

I don't think our abilities in dodging telegraphed aoes

have particularly wide of a gap

[random needle]

You'll never clear high end content if you're too nervous to jump in period

[zealous meteor]

(i'm not counting the 25% on m5s because i spent most of the fight on the floor)

[zealous meteor]

yeah

stupid brain

[whole estuary]

really, the short guide is like less than 5 mins for Seiryuu

because it's really that simple

[random needle]

Study up, jump in, and remember that statistically you've probably prepared more than the average PFer

[jolly flume]

for once im actually not exaggerating

seiryu is basically a normal trial

[whole estuary]

it's Crystal PFable!

[dull drum]

the fight

is literally

nothing

[boreal pumice]

Same can be said for byakko

[zealous meteor]

ok i watched a 2.5 minute guide

[whole estuary]

shrimple yah?

you don't even need to know all of it, just your role

[zealous meteor]

i mean it looks like if i'm not a tank i have no responsibilities past the ones my role normally has (dps or dps + heal)

[whole estuary]

healers get light party stacks, DPS will get knockback tethers from wheels

[loud nymph]

the responsibility for 99% of the fight is the same for everyone which is "move out of the telegraphed avoidable AOE"

[zealous meteor]

oh so i'm just the target of one of the party stacks?

so don't stand next to the other healer and i'm fine

[whole estuary]

other than that, yeah you have no unique stuff

[zealous meteor]

[loud nymph]

yes

the one difference is

first set of party stacks can actually be stacked because there is no vuln

after that you can't stack them

[zealous meteor]

XANDE STRIKES BACK

[loud nymph]

also the marker only goes on one healer

so don't get jebaited

[zealous meteor]

yea i saw that

[whole estuary]

it's like the first time wants to show you that it happens without punishing you

even though it's an EX/Unreal

[zealous meteor]

dungeon boss ass mechanic

[random needle]

Normal content has come a long way since Stormblood I suppose

[loud nymph]

if you've done Dawntrail normal raids

they are harder than Seiryu ex

[whole estuary]

it's a good onramp onto harder content, wish it were more consistently like it

[jolly flume]

not even

the extremes are just

??

[random needle]

... Okay yeah that too, I've noticed that people do not have a lot of good to say about the SB EXes

[dull drum]

afaik the only extreme that wasnt completedog cheeks was like

shinryu

thats it

[whole estuary]

shinryuu doesn't exist though

[loud nymph]

Suzaku ex is still one of my favorites tbh

[whole estuary]

it drops no mount and Khloe isn't interested in that story...

[zealous meteor]

isn't it the weird looking fox who wants the stories

or do you mean that it doesn't show up in wondrous tails

[loud nymph]

it doesn't show up in WT

[zealous meteor]

wild

[loud nymph]

for whatever reason

[zealous meteor]

even though heavensward and shadowbringers side quest trials do

[loud nymph]

yeah

[rain geode]

Finally queue for M3N popped now I think Im gonna do M4N then the unreal

dependingon how long the unreal takes me Ill do M5-8N tonight

[zealous meteor]

funny thing is the fights aren't even scary
creating or joining a pf is

[loud nymph]

the thing to remember there is that while you have high expectations of yourself

PF has no such expectations

either of themselves or of you

[zealous meteor]

i know that. anxiety go brrr anyway

i'm so glad i'm not on OCE because i would never have finished the msq over there

[whole estuary]

you're on OCE lite

[zealous meteor]

i'm on OCE that can travel to other data centers

[rain geode]

oh Arcadion is literally just pro wrestling, Im suprised it took so long to realize that.

[random needle]

Yyyyyyeppers

Including the personalities everyone puts on, like Brute Bomber being a classic heel

[whole estuary]

it's excellent

everyone has super wacky very strong theming

https://tenor.com/view/benkiman-black-man-flush-kinnikuman-ultimate-muscle-gif-5217813008988792215

[rain geode]

Alright what do I want to do while I wait for my hour long M4N queue time to pop?

[loud nymph]

Yeah, it's fursonas wrestling other fursonas

With a side of soul cancer

[rain geode]

Im praying M5-8N go much faster queue wise since they're current

[random needle]

And the raid tiers are themed for wrestling weight divisions, Light-Heavyweight, Cruiserweight, and Heavyweight

[zealous meteor]

is "cruiserweight" an actual term in wrestling

[whole estuary]

I think it's an old term?

[jolly flume]

bros cruisin

[random needle]

Black Cat would be a perfect Arcadion name for my WoL if it weren't for it already being taken

[whole estuary]

like bantamweight and featherweight

[rain geode]

Yeah like I said it took me an embarrassingly long time to realize

[zealous meteor]

black cat
look inside
pink hair

[whole estuary]

black fur

[random needle]

Yeah

[jolly flume]

ooh, look at that massive cannon

[rain geode]

Does M5-8N have any weekly loot restrictions?

[zealous meteor]

yes and no

the gear tokens aren't limited anymore

the weapon token is

the gear tokens being the ones you roll for, the weapon token just appears in your inventory when you clear M8

[dapper zealot]

wow smh

[zealous meteor]

pf scary

[random needle]

What would your WoL's Arcadion fighter name be if you could choose one

I'm leaning towards "Lunar Eclipse"

[jolly flume]

discord kitten

honestly idk I'm terrible with names

[random needle]

Metem voice "Ready to start her cruiserweight campaign, this felicitious feline who furrows the fury of the furry stands her ground against Dancing Green! Make some noise for DISCOOOORD KITTEEEEEEN!!"

[jolly flume]

[zealous meteor]

fresh party for a months old unreal isn't filling instantly. shocking

[jolly flume]

honestly count yourself lucky when your party fills faster than like half an hour

the worst part of pf is waiting

[zealous meteor]

it's fine, i have ways to pass the time

[opens solitaire]

[rapid whale]

balatro fun too

[zealous meteor]

hey @rain geode you should join

[rain geode]

I suppose I can lemme finish up this cutscene then Ill travel to aether

[zealous meteor]

(if you want to)

[rain geode]

I mean I did say I was gonna run it tonight

[rapid whale]

pog tew and eju first high end?

id join for that

wats the party listed under

and what role is tew coming on so i dont lock them out

[rain geode]

E'jusana is the party leader so you can just check for their name we're on aether rn obviously

Probably DNC but depending on what people end up I could play RPR

I could probably even go buy gear and run WAR even

[rapid whale]

lmk once you're in

[jolly flume]

ngl every time I read ejusana the only thing that goes through my head is "juice"

[rain geode]

Im currently in the part as a DNC

E'jus is on SCH

and we have I think a random on GNB

[dapper zealot]

e-juice

[rapid whale]

vape naysh

[zealous meteor]

yep, random

[dapper zealot]

I joined

[zealous meteor]

you have a lv100 NA alt?

[dapper zealot]

lol no

[zealous meteor]

so you didn't join :(

whoa, cross dc pf real

(gods i wish)

[dapper zealot]

I spy ipi

[zealous meteor]

yep

[jolly flume]

eepy beepy

[loud nymph]

Oh damn, I'm going to miss helping you guys out because of stupid work 🙁

[dapper zealot]

simply don't work

ez

[rain geode]

rip although with how long PF can take to fire we might still be here when you get back xd

[zealous meteor]

no problem with this party comp right

(can i refresh the pf listing like this? i can't right)

@rapid whale help i can't refresh the pf listing because you're ALC

[rapid whale]

u can tho

[worn bluff]

you can still recruit for those openings but yeah it will say there's an ALC in the party

unless you make them switch back for a sec

[zealous meteor]

well TIL

i thought it wouldn't let me do it at all

because of the !

[rapid whale]

it warns you that the current make up cant do the content adn you just post anyways

[zealous meteor]

if i knew that i wouldn't have pestered you

[rapid whale]

in this instance you'd ahve to set the last 2 slots to healer/dps tho

[craggy marsh]

Bapple

[rapid whale]

mango

[craggy marsh]

[rapid whale]

https://tenor.com/view/head-butt-goat-funny-animals-gif-13974992

[wicked delta]

oh BROTHER

[random needle]

Oh no

[versed kayak]

Does someone know how long the first few uwu clear pulls were when it came out?

[worn bluff]

like how many days it took for someone to clear?

[dense oxide]

16 mins

[clear plume]

https://www.fflogs.com/zone/rankings/23 sort by patches you care about

[versed kayak]

ah, thanks

[versed kayak]

ah neat, the fflogs menu doesnt have it anymore for some reason

[clear plume]

You have to go to stormblood expansion first, and then ultimate tab from there

[versed kayak]

ahh, I forgot that option existed

[wicked delta]

healer couldnt do this dungeon

so one of the dps got fed up

left

healer followed

i filled in along with a whm

literally no issues throughout the dungeon

origenics is impossible content

[dreamy whale]

Allo homies

[versed kayak]

'ello

did you have nightmares about garuda? :D

[remote gate]

hi moo

[dreamy whale]

I'm gonna play Viper since I don't have as many issues flubbing my combos

[remote gate]

youre gonna wish you were playing something else

[dreamy whale]

Idk I played it in uhh

[versed kayak]

viper at 70, wew

can grab the 1.78s gcd set for it :D

[dreamy whale]

Anamnesis anyder

Oh I meant just in general

[dreamy whale]

Wtf

Why would I go under 2.3 on any job

[versed kayak]

I mean with jobs like mnk theres no choice

[zealous meteor]

this is just a normal trial that hits harder

[versed kayak]

same for sam

[dreamy whale]

Oh is that the case for Viper

[random needle]

MNK go nyoom

[dreamy whale]

picto is really fun too

[rapid whale]

welcome to pf @zealous meteor @rain geode i wanna say sry this was your first exp but

this is pf

[zealous meteor]

this is TECHNICALLY like my third but the first one i made

[jolly flume]

I take it it did not go well

[rapid whale]

we have a tank that does not know how to hit provoke

[jolly flume]

typical unreal denizen

[dreamy whale]

Guh

Just ask Chiyo I'm a pro at hitting provoke

[zealous meteor]

always a male au ra

[rapid whale]

lmao

[zealous meteor]

this time they provoked and didn't mit

:)

[clear plume]

Me fr when I’m asked to drk a parse party

[random needle]

Can any malera other than Sidurgu be even remotely competent

[boreal pumice]

vitra

[random needle]

🤫

[rapid whale]

but uhhh yeah welcome to pf 🙂 as you can see, you aren't the problem 🙂 @rain geode

[dreamy whale]

Me last night thinking about the ultimate

[wicked delta]

stop flaming me

[rain geode]

I was gonna say it was the OT never doing the tank swap right?

[rapid whale]

p much

they didnt do a single mech right

[zealous meteor]

.

[rain geode]

love the pf listing that just make no sense hecks a tell/retell

[rapid whale]

tell is the first clear retell is the second

so they are saying they want to do both in one party

[clear plume]

You tell her a story and then you can retell her it once a week

So you clear twice

[zealous meteor]

ackshually the fox is a guy

[rain geode]

Maybe Ill go buy some tank gear and try it as that

[zealous meteor]

you can hardly do worse

[clear plume]

Sorry I didn’t know you checked his junk like you do baby cats

[zealous meteor]

i swear if not for that tank we could at least have done a BIT more

[zealous meteor]

the wiki says he's a guy

[clear plume]

Wikis aren’t a source for things that don’t have a source elsewhere

[dreamy whale]

He looks like a guy fox

[rapid whale]

Hope you had fun at least

[zealous meteor]

he

[zealous meteor]

yeah

[zealous meteor]

this is from the faux hollows unlock quest

[dreamy whale]

I don't think I like alcohol anymore

[rapid whale]

Are you doing drunk uwu

Gaddem

[dreamy whale]

Lol im gonna pf it when I get home

O got a vodka cran

[versed kayak]

did you practice your rotation

[dreamy whale]

They put too much vodka in it

Yera

I bought a 50 dummy

Ots 1-2-eye
1-2-3>inner release
Fell cleave 6 times

[steep narwhal]

is it time to clear

[dreamy whale]

I just have to get better at like

[zealous meteor]

is there a way to block male au ra from a pf listing /s

[dreamy whale]

Doing it under stress

[steep narwhal]

wait

this is such a smart

plugin idea

"autokick malera"

[rain geode]

alright quick drink and back into PF

[loud nymph]

god if only

[rapid whale]

how did you enjoy your first taste of high end content

[rain geode]

Having to actually deal with mechanics was kinda fun

[zealous meteor]

i still can't believe that it's just a fucking normal trial that hits slightly harder

[rapid whale]

thats basically all ffxiv

[rain geode]

I mean thats kinda what ex is right

[rapid whale]

you jsut dont get punished in normal modes but yea

[zealous meteor]

well i mean more like the telegraphs take two business days to go off

[rain geode]

It does feel a bit bad to do 6 pulls and every wipe was one guys fault

[zealous meteor]

yeah

[rapid whale]

tyhats another parto fhigh end content

you only prog as fast as your slowest member

[dreamy whale]

[rapid whale]

true of static and pf

[zealous meteor]

what if i

(i won't)

[dreamy whale]

Moomoo static arc

[rain geode]

actually Im gonna get some food then hop back into PF

[dreamy whale]

"What your highest progress"

"25% in P1 UwU

[zealous meteor]

46%

[versed kayak]

Usually called a prog point btw

[steep narwhal]

are u in pf rn moomoo

[zealous meteor]

it took me an embarassing amount of time to realise that these percentages weren't just like, arbitrary fight progress
but the boss's health bar

[dreamy whale]

Nope

[vast jacinth]

Dont join above your prog point unless your gigaaa confident you can pull it off (cauae prog lying bad)

[steep narwhal]

cooked

[vast jacinth]

Your texting while at a bar??

[zealous meteor]

will i prog faster if i'm on progesterone

[dreamy whale]

Yeah

[rapid whale]

ive heard of drunk reclears but drunk prog is next level

[vast jacinth]

Bro talk to your friends or smth

[dreamy whale]

Why would I talk to women irl they're scary

[rapid whale]

damn cherry blasting moomoo

[vast jacinth]

Talk to men??

[rain geode]

Oh wait thanks for reminding me I dont not want that tank when I hop back in PF in an hour

[dreamy whale]

Men are also scary

[zealous meteor]

moomoo is just following this: https://xkcd.com/323/

xkcd: Ballmer Peak

Apple uses automated schnapps IVs.

[dreamy whale]

Also I'm waiting my friends

[vast jacinth]

Cooked

[dreamy whale]

We bdubs

After they get out

[steep narwhal]

it's common for ppl to go to bar alone

[dreamy whale]

I'm drinking at my workplace on my day off

[steep narwhal]

and not talk to ppl

in america

or like in NA

in general

[rapid whale]

whats that meme, theres a xkcd fore verything orw/e

[vast jacinth]

In EU its rare cause usually you meet ppl there then and talk to them xD

[steep narwhal]

NA antisocial

[vast jacinth]

I should go to a bar again

[zealous meteor]

time to wait even longer

[steep narwhal]

we all have some form of social anxiety

[dreamy whale]

Moomoo is an introvert with crippling social anxiety

[steep narwhal]

see

[zealous meteor]

<-- fox that has anxiety

[dreamy whale]

I was apologizing to chiyo and bapples the entire time in was doing uwu yesterday

[rain geode]

I have anxiety thankfully I can usually find someone worse then me and use them to make me less anxious

[dreamy whale]

Also what if I inconvenience someone by speaking to them

[zealous meteor]

it's nice having one specific person to blame for all the wipes because now i can't blame myself <3

[loud nymph]

hell yeah

[rapid whale]

bro was apologizing for random person dyign to feather rains lmao

like IT ISN'T YOUR FAULT CALM DOWNNNN

[dreamy whale]

if they hadn't had to adjust for me they wouldn't die

[vast jacinth]

You did fine patpat

[rapid whale]

fr we reached end of garuda even if it was a zombie run

[versed kayak]

lmfao

[vast jacinth]

Seeee

[vestal hollow]

do not speak to me. i will scream.

[steep narwhal]

hi

bruh im so sleepy but i need to study

[rapid whale]

https://tenor.com/view/ihnmaims-i-have-no-mouth-and-i-must-scream-vultrash-vam-vulture-x-am-gif-177771480475197539

[vestal hollow]

[steep narwhal]

thts not a ascream

[vast jacinth]

Instead of scream just cri now

[dreamy whale]

I have no eikons and I must ultima

[vast jacinth]

Too scared to scream?

[vestal hollow]

i screamed irl. hope ur happy.

[vast jacinth]

Kill eikons then ultima

[rapid whale]

wot is a tear but a scrim of soul #deep

[steep narwhal]

im very happy

[zealous meteor]

meow

[vestal hollow]

[austere ocean]

Scream all you like cuz we all mad here 🎵

[vestal hollow]

i have a lot of slurs i could call you.

[austere ocean]

But also, if I say things I wanna say to you, I would be in jail 🙂

[vast jacinth]

Jail time?

Lets go

[zealous meteor]

💭 is meower a slur for miqo'te

💭 are elezen ever called knife ears

[rain geode]

I usually hear litter kicker when people wanna insult a cat girl

[austere ocean]

Yes but then I’d have to say what I think of sitri and you don’t wanna hear that

[vast jacinth]

Not in here true

[austere ocean]

Yea, at least in dragon age. I’m not surprise if that’s a general fantasy thing for elves

[zealous meteor]

ive mostly heard it in a dwarf fortress context

[rapid whale]

i think it is ya

[vestal hollow]

listen i will never forget green being directionally challenged in aloalo

[austere ocean]

We all did, c-

[vestal hollow]

they always died on the show hole mechanic

[vast jacinth]

You proll did to sitri

[vestal hollow]

nope i love showing hole

[vast jacinth]

Time to ask channy

[austere ocean]

Yea I mean unlike you I’m not good at showing hole to literally anyone

[vestal hollow]

we get it ur a shy little pissbaby green

[austere ocean]

😊 you just don’t deserve to see my hole

[rapid whale]

[dreamy whale]

Sigh, fine

🫱( ‿ * ‿ )🫲

[rapid whale]

watafak

[vestal hollow]

help

[dreamy whale]

[rapid whale]

bro is drunk

[austere ocean]

I remember we make @sinful brook spread his legs. I mean spread adlo for the mechanic

[vast jacinth]

One sip and drunk

?

Weak

[dreamy whale]

Yuh

[austere ocean]

Light weight

[dreamy whale]

I get plastered off of a sour

[rapid whale]

ermm actually we are in the cruiser weight champions 🤓

[austere ocean]

Light heavy weight, but it’s just light

[vast jacinth]

Green i wanna pin this so badly rn

[rapid whale]

LMAO

[austere ocean]

Pin what

[vast jacinth]

.

[austere ocean]

👌 pin it and make it popular

[vast jacinth]

No :)

Make channy do it or biscuit

[austere ocean]

So the world know sitri loves showing holes

[vast jacinth]

As if thats a secrer

Secret

[austere ocean]

hole pics in the dm after raid

And by that, I mean worm hole, the mechanic from tea

[dreamy whale]

I should make a jp alt

[rain geode]

In theory even with that poor tank could we have brute force past the tank swap they didn't want to MIT for with tanks lb3?

[jolly flume]

HUH

[dreamy whale]

I played with a reaper who refused to aoe

I wanted to shoot myself

[rapid whale]

how do you mean

like "could we have cleared the fight just leaving them on the floor" prob not

i dont think the dps checks are thaaaaaaaat light even if it is unreal

[austere ocean]

Yea well unlike you as the community’s malewife, just about everyone have seen that loose (worm)hole 🙄

[rapid whale]

holy green is absolutely cooking

[austere ocean]

His hole is so loose the whole 8-man raid needs to sim to properly handle said hole

Yes, you heard it right, it takes 8 people for that hole

[rain geode]

Nah I mean we just use tank lb3 to live the aoe that happens after he dies and then rez him

Obviously ideally he should just... do the mechanic but in just thinking aloud

[rapid whale]

yea i dont really think in those terms

its why i will never be a speed killer

i like that you're being creative tho thats yuge

good for fresh content

[jolly flume]

[austere ocean]

🙂 🔪

[versed kayak]

when does stillness snapshot in TEA, is it at the end or slightly before the end of the cast?

[jolly flume]

ping dependent but just be a good little safety gamer and get your hands off the keyboard at like 75% lol

you can get away with some vile shit but the latest I would be comfortable hitting a gcd on my ping (~70 ish) is about 90% on the cast

but my gcd doesn't line up for that anyway

[versed kayak]

yeah I was shouted at by my static for greeding that :D

[jolly flume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/420652632454070304/1153527484327931985/2FCA9E25-179C-43B1-B251-D758FD10EE20.gif

just need that jp ping

if you're playing a caster you can also swift your last gcd to get it in earlier

I do that on healers

[versed kayak]

ignore the yukikaze under meikyo

[jolly flume]

you're braver than I've ever been for doing othat

although I guess you basically live next to the servers lol

[versed kayak]

7ms ye

[dull drum]

that means san fran

or sacra

SIGH

[jolly flume]

hes eu bro

[dull drum]

oh

na servers are in california

sorry east coast losers

[jolly flume]

:(

[dull drum]

[versed kayak]

Stuttgart but close enough

[zealous meteor]

dynamis on east coast. trust

[dull drum]

i get 17ms in so cal

its a w

[zealous meteor]

i believe

[jolly flume]

the cloud servers were the only time I've ever gotten to experience ping privilege

[vast jacinth]

EU dif hehe

[rapid whale]

im kinda surprised they didnt make cloud servers "the raiding hub"

but ig that would just kill every server at once

i wonder if they could do something like, current savage and ultimate queues put you into the cloud server

[vast jacinth]

Its in testing pls understand

Smol indie company

[rain geode]

Alright food and drink aquired time to jump back into PF

[rapid whale]

glhf tew

[vestal hollow]

i mean it always felt to me like they were gonna implement cloud dcs as a bandaid method of cross region travel

[vast jacinth]

Well i hope they fckin do

Even though then NA and EU ppl need to find common strats

Or jusr erm learn both?

[craggy marsh]

Sorry bro I can only do group 2 NW bro

[rain geode]

Im pretty confidant in my own ability to clear it at this point

not that thats what determines if you clear lmao

[rapid whale]

ye

[vast jacinth]

I wanted to prog more fru but its late here

[rapid whale]

fru fun

i threw out all my gear saying i would never go back but now i kinda miss it

[vast jacinth]

thats crazy

[versed kayak]

They can barely handle aether being the raiding hub