endgame-lounge

[kind elm]

no its banger

[dapper zealot]

Heavenly

[remote gate]

im inflicting you with the curse of Ra

[jade nimbus]

Savage is most likely on the 23rd, right?

[remote gate]

most likely based on when the live letter is scheduled

[jade nimbus]

That's like a month and half more or less to find a static

Although doubt it'll happen at this point tbh

[remote gate]

better hit up #1039986530783072336

[jade nimbus]

Oh, ye, I'm looking over all the 3 static discord for a blind party

[remote gate]

trying to find a TEA pf that me and friends can join has been a nightmare and even worse when we open a pf

[jade nimbus]

Mhm, it do be like that

[remote gate]

has EU been getting ddos because apparently thats why pf is so ass these days

[jade nimbus]

Mhm, can't say cause I barely Pf in these last few months

But before it was fine

[remote gate]

i saw that video valcor

[trim frost]

had to delete bc there was n word

i snipped it tho

[remote gate]

https://tenor.com/view/ofergang-daniel-gif-25330530

[dapper zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-music-monkey-monkey-listening-to-the-music-monkey-chill-vibin-gif-24320967

[wicked delta]

[trim frost]

throw wide the gates lil bro

[boreal pumice]

tobi in mentor hell

[dapper zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

[wicked delta]

this 0 damage scholar

holy shit man

[trim frost]

bro is not the thinker

[wicked delta]

erm?

[pale blade]

https://tenor.com/view/antman-what-the-hell-happened-here-avengers-gif-18240147

[boreal pumice]

someone saw raid and said nope i guess

[tired egret]

They wanted crystal tower only because it's fast

[boreal pumice]

idk i cant speak for that person

[wicked delta]

i have to get war to 100

on my main

[thin tartan]

hasnt cleared btw

[worldly grotto]

Is this one of those trap parties I hear so much about

[dapper zealot]

Trap parties?

[remote gate]

i hope the part where you have to stand on the blue circle and have a corrupted crystal explode on you was awkward

[pale blade]

lmao

[wicked delta]

I just got qitana ravel and the hardest part was genuinely not falling asleep

[thin tartan]

i kinda wanna do dsr agian

[remote gate]

learn dsr as a different role

[sick reef]

which floors do we get the glass from again in PT?

[jolly flume]

51-70 best drop rates

[sick reef]

pain ty

[zealous meteor]

WHY ARE YOU DOING THAT ON DYNAMIS

i'm all for trying to make the other data centers more alive but surely you'll have a much better time on aether

[dapper zealot]

I think I'm more concerned that their supposed first time doing high end is an ult

[rain geode]

Or doing an ex for your first high end duty

[distant knoll]

theyll win trust

[granite stag]

One shot. Surely.

[thin tartan]

@jolly flume https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxuWvswuAkcplgknoNQgTh_Aag9QgyWszI

[sick reef]

first pull, u aint seen his power

[jolly flume]

wait this is based

[trim frost]

why are you doing that in general

[zealous meteor]

i didn't even notice that

[trim frost]

“first time in a high end duty” 10 hours on dolls

[zealous meteor]

no

10 minutes on dolls and then they disband

[trim frost]

true

[zealous meteor]

because they didn't think an ultimate raid would be that hard. it IS one of the easier ones after all

[wicked delta]

this quality my fucking ass

[zealous meteor]

surprised at how many people have joined it

[trim frost]

No

[loud nymph]

No

[zealous meteor]

so true

[jolly flume]

I would join that party just to see how it went

[thin tartan]

skill issue i think (it looked fine on my end)

[wicked delta]

its prolly jus discord embed moment

lol

[sick reef]

def not gonna sit there for hours

[tired egret]

Tbh even I wouldn't do an Ultimate until I'm done with Savage stuff first

Hell, before touching EX Trials

[rain geode]

You should probably have a completion of a current raid tier before touching ults

[thin tartan]

nononono

just run in

[dapper zealot]

Spent so long trying to figure what ost was playing in a yt shorts. Finally figured out was white stone black

[jolly flume]

just lock in and do it if you want to

the difficulty ladder of this game is optional

the only thing that isn't is doing your own research

which is the step most people skip, and doing extreme or savage first wouldn't fix that

[quick verge]

@grok is this true

[rapid whale]

ppl think just because they can solo unlock an ult they can do it as an msq andy

let them suffer

[dapper zealot]

So this is where he went in the aetherial sea

[rapid whale]

https://tenor.com/view/ew-nope-no-nuh-uh-no-way-gif-21846503

[wicked delta]

just made it to floor 80

well

past floor 80

time to see how this goes

[dull drum]

insanely toxic

[rain geode]

In pilgrims traverse?

[wicked delta]

yea

on 81

boss was kinda easier than i expected

lmao

[rain geode]

Well I find the 80 boss harder then the 90 boss tho most people disagree with me on that tho neither is particularly hard

[whole estuary]

90 has no puzzle solving, just use eyes

[whole estuary]

it's nice

[rapid whale]

it's my duty

[wicked delta]

dude these horses beating my ass

[sleek moon]

i was shilling for phaenna until i got to fisher

fuck fishing

so damn slow

[whole estuary]

the one that knocks you back 4 TIMES IN A ROW?

[wicked delta]

i got jumped by 3 of them

icant

[whole estuary]

eugh

it's absolutely bonkers how many halls just have 4+ patrols stacked on each other

[sleek moon]

ngl at least these patrols do basically nothing

just pushbacks that do no damage

vs hoh having minotaurs patrolling

[wicked delta]

the patrols were fine but

holy

i just had the dumbest wipe

4 succubi

theyre dead

i pull a lion

2 more pull up

idk if it was 4 succubi but it was just a lot

jfc

[whole estuary]

oops, lion beam can't be LoS'd

[jolly flume]

welcome to trains

first time?

[daring pine]

chiyo

do i clear tonight

will i climb in the ring

[jolly flume]

perhaps

[daring pine]

i wanna climb in the ring chiyo

[jolly flume]

i wanna climb out of this venue

[daring pine]

bro

are you STILL there

[jolly flume]

yes

[rapid whale]

that's home now

[jolly flume]

chinese ppl do not fuck around man

[daring pine]

save chiyo

[jolly flume]

i've been smiling so much my face hurts

[rapid whale]

oh i thought you meant xiv venue LOL

[daring pine]

he's at a wedding

[jolly flume]

no i'm STILL at the wedding

[zealous meteor]

trains

[rapid whale]

take some moutai for me

[daring pine]

i need it..

[jolly flume]

unfortunately this is the kind that murders you brutally not the fast efficient mode of public transport

[daring pine]

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-it-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-gif-4883506

[zealous meteor]

[rapid whale]

good luck

[daring pine]

if it doesnt fill in an hour im just

not

i'll be too tired by then i think

unless i drag myself to a clear

[limpid edge]

Last tier of the expansion soon

Wow!

[rapid whale]

It's a Christmas gift

[jolly flume]

i don't want a lot for christmas

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wiggle-crazy-cat-zoomies-gif-9877358298643393466

[jolly flume]

holy shit

[steep narwhal]

this is the erp u always wanted

[jolly flume]

dude what if we approached each other to break our christmas tether and then held hands...

[sick reef]

wipe or clear

[wicked delta]

wipe

[sick reef]

run it back

[wicked delta]

@daring pine im no rdm expert but hardcasting impact is some deranged shit right

[jolly flume]

nah that's bis

the woke balance doesn't want you to know this

[wicked delta]

[remote gate]

using swiftcast or acceleration makes you super woke

[daring pine]

yes

bro i just got hit by 2 meteodrives back to back in pvp

what the hell

[zealous meteor]

pvp was a mistake

[jolly flume]

you pissed off the entire shaolin temple

[zealous meteor]

i have a bit of grinding left to do

[trim frost]

hop on ranked cc

[whole estuary]

2 people used their strongest tool on you, a solo queuer

you already won

[rain geode]

I don't 🙂

[daring pine]

cant even play pvp bard in 2025

[rain geode]

god I hate pvp

[daring pine]

but uuh yeah

@wicked delta hardcasting impact is insane yes

execution immediately

remove jobstone

if you hardcast impact/verthunder 3/veraero 3, you die

[sick reef]

early patch pvp is peak, no bonobos yet

[daring pine]

get me out

[sick reef]

i do not care about the blues, outfit ugly but must have for collection

[dapper zealot]

[sick reef]

why do u do this to urself

[visual geyser]

back in EW i got to 30 on every single one

but thats because EW had 0 content outside of pvp kek

[dapper zealot]

I just do my daily FL for the xp

[sleek moon]

i couldnt be paid enough to do FL after 25

[sick reef]

maybe i need a job

[sick reef]

same lmao i despire frontline

[whole estuary]

I still like to have the trophy crystals from 26-30

[dapper zealot]

you already have a bunch

[sick reef]

ur right, now which one gives me money

[wicked delta]

I was playing with a super dented red mage n saw them stopping 5 separate times to hardcast impact

And I asked my bf like

Is that normal

And he was like “no”

But I needed to make sure 😭

[sick reef]

hes aware of some tech from 8.0, yall aint ready

[wicked delta]

Potential man

[sick reef]

bros gon be first to clear the raid tiers in 8.0 remember his name

[dapper zealot]

bros' the first time high end in TEA

[zealous meteor]

(on dynamis)

[wicked delta]

Me shitting on this guy and he gets personally invited by Yoshi P for being a gamer

[sick reef]

he might just be THE wol

[zealous meteor]

im the warrior of light sorry

it was in the endwalker credits

[sick reef]

yea? watch me eat them credits

[quick verge]

i miss season 1 of cc

[dapper zealot]

He has early access to the 8.0 rdm rework

[mortal flower]

EXCUSE YOU.

They said 'thanks' to their families and shit and then thanked ME personally at the end. Fuck you. You're not in the credits.

[sleek moon]

when greed kills you

[dapper zealot]

biblical greed

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meow-silly-cat-cat-explode-yellow-cat-gif-12654556298327310612

[visual geyser]

3rd clear of PT

Yoshi p how did you make me a Deep Dungeon fan 🥹

[whole estuary]

it's so good

[torn kindle]

Having fun soloing so far

[visual geyser]

where tf do i learn quantuam 15

how difficult is 15

[torn kindle]

You use the same pastebins/raidplans as 40, but with some minor mechanics removed/lessened

[thin tartan]

come

[visual geyser]

its how many week of DD weeklies for the hair?

[jolly flume]

challenge log is 5 a week I think

so gl

[visual geyser]

woah

you only get the oil from the weekly?

[jolly flume]

oh sorry I was thinking of first light relics

oil idk

[sick dirge]

you can exchange the book thing from floor 100 for oil but its not worth it lol. 1:1 exchange rate

[whole estuary]

I think it's 1:2

still awful

[visual geyser]

i already spent 2 clears for the portrait

[sick dirge]

oh yea you right lol

[jolly flume]

can't believe I actually have to do quantum reclears to get these stupid pink legos at a reasonable rate

[visual geyser]

incentive

[torn kindle]

Gotta farm quick before all the casuals can get the hair

And the price of it craters to the ground

[rain geode]

It's 1:2 you have to do 13 clears of 99 to equal 1 week of the challenges

[whole estuary]

Wow! I'm not doing that!

[rain geode]

And your spending the resource to get the mount!

[torn kindle]

I’d rather a single materia grade 12

Since SE still thinks those are valuable somehow

“Do you wanna spend 10 potsherds on glamour gear, or 6 potsherds on something you get a handful of by doing dungeons”

[boreal pumice]

on a blm fancy

[torn kindle]

I’m sure it’ll get scary very soon but it’s comfy right now

[boreal pumice]

honestly its comfy all the way its just treasure rooms boss 10 and cactus sometimes gets ya

[whole estuary]

returning to those with 90+ aetherpool in a party is chill

[rain geode]

I can't find deep dungeon comfy even if it isn't hard to many one shots

[boreal pumice]

pt is easily the most comfy and generous with its poms , mobs are quite easy to avoid , telegraph wise

[whole estuary]

if you don't want to do mob mechanics, you can stun

so many of them are stunnable it's funny

[boreal pumice]

can even sleep a few of them

[visual geyser]

ye you can sleep the biggest threat

the bombs

[rapid whale]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-patrick-spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-patrick-sleeping-gif-22521682

[rain geode]

The stuns are nice makes me wish I had PLD leveled for shield bash

[untold oyster]

helped frends beat the roommates

[rapid whale]

v naisu

[untold oyster]

amazing pull number too

[sleek moon]

[trim frost]

i fru up

so real

[jolly flume]

!status gilgamesh

[storm frost]

Information

Gilgamesh is currently Online
This server is currently: Congested
Creation of New Characters Unavailable

[torn mesa]

wait

wtf

[rapid whale]

FRu

[torn mesa]

I guess it's case sensitive?

[rapid whale]

i imagine there's gotta be a couple called i fru up no

[torn mesa]

the group I posted is mine BTW

LOL

I know there was a we fru up in 7.1

[untold oyster]

LOL

nice name

[untold oyster]

lots of people that fru up i suppose

[dreamy whale]

I think i got a decent opener set up

[rapid whale]

wahoo

[jolly flume]

IR after your first storm's eye

no point doing another combo

[dreamy whale]

6 fell cleave greater than 5 tho?

Wait is it to align with raid buffs

[jolly flume]

6 fell cleaves doesn't mean anything, that's just doing 123 6x fell cleave instead of 5x fell cleave 123 fell cleave

and yes

[dreamy whale]

Icic

What do i do if im in alexander

Is it 123 12 berserk 3x fell cleave

[rapid whale]

check balance

[jolly flume]

you cry because level 60 jobs don't work

[dreamy whale]

Ah I see

[jolly flume]

but also that should be fine with the exception that

it would be 12312 berserk 3 fell cleave fell cleave and you drop the last one out of berserk

and don't bother to get 3 fell cleaves under berserk after that, you'll usually just be forcing yourself to overcap

50 gauge an infuriate and a combo step is usually what you'll get for hitting it off cd and that's fine

[dreamy whale]

Okok

Think i might bid on one of the shittier small plots this time

[rain geode]

70 feels about where most jobs feel entirely functional

[jolly flume]

even 80 is debatable for me nowadays

every time I try to press a button that doesn't exist it feels like a phantom limb

[rapid whale]

Can I be knuckles

[vestal hollow]

im already knuckles

[rain geode]

certainly depends a bit on job but like everytime I try to press a healers AoE resource spending in particular it hurts

[rapid whale]

surely mkoi doesnt lose this right @clear plume

nvm

lol.

[robust shoal]

Sion isn't the problem but I still want to register my disgust at it getting through ban phase

[rapid whale]

LOL valid

[clear plume]

if any team can, its mkoi

but yeah, mkoi should beat fnc every time

[rapid whale]

beeg poppy

[clear plume]

mmmm

[rapid whale]

wat am i watching wonderbread

help me understand

[clear plume]

i think kass should be great into poppy comps, her w doesnt stop you

but this is an insane lane choke holy

[rapid whale]

are we gonna see a 40 cs lead in bot at 10 lmao

o they swapped, valid

https://tenor.com/view/kataman-cat-gif-10580123519733406458

this looks like some really nervous league of legumes

[clear plume]

first lead fncs had all event ok

[rapid whale]

does fnc have to get all 4 dragons to outpace kass @clear plume

[clear plume]

kass isnt a 1v9 machine so just keeping the sivir weak enough will be fine, he isnt an assassin in pro, little more bruisery like sylas is

kaisa viktor wont struggle to blow him up late game

just keep wu and sivir behind and they cant fight

its a giga greedy mkoi draft, no champ exists pre 6

and they lost early

this would be a 20m game vs a top tier team

[rapid whale]

i wanna say this lead is too much to come back from but we'll see ig

[clear plume]

especially with infernal soul yeah

kass will never scale up

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/pooron-paz-pazzin-league-of-legends-minion-gif-22745662

[rapid whale]

whats the rough gold value of the atakan

guessing like 2k for the team?

[trim frost]

idk what these words mean

i just do what mister mobalytics tells me to do

[rapid whale]

gg

[clear plume]

depends way too much on flowers to say directly

its meant to average about 1.5-2k

[rapid whale]

gotcha

[rapid whale]

negative dmg comp

[clear plume]

redside azir is so european

[rapid whale]

fk it yone top for fnc

wait is this real

vayne in an elim match?

holy

[clear plume]

weird comp for vayne though

[rapid whale]

now this is league of legends

[alpine plover]

who winning

wait is my region killing itself again

[rapid whale]

yes

wat the troll doin

[clear plume]

sadly eu did this thing where they strictly lost to non eu (barring g2 last night) so yeah lots of self battles after that

razork in a game that mnatters

hate to see it

[alpine plover]

It's fine g2 will beat whoever they draw

And gg

[sullen minnow]

Hey endgame lounge I’m here to ask a question for a friend I don’t feel confident enough to answer myself how’s the state of machinist rn? The last page they are on is that mch is a bum job and can’t really compete with the others how is it now? I don’t feel confident telling them the state due to me lacking knowledge in that regard since it’s not my main

[robust shoal]

Tier is old so savage is much less relevant but it's actually rop cdps for pranged

granted if people were still grinding you'd probably see brd/dnc jump a lot but that's not really relevant for the average player

It's still not exactly the top choice for fru but my semi-hot take is it's the no-brainer pick for old ultis

[sullen minnow]

So you’d say it’s in a good spot compared to the past basically

[clear plume]

gimme a minute for a writeup here

[robust shoal]

It's definitely better than the lowlights it's had before

except still kinda meme in fru

Imagine being a gauge job that sucks in p5 💀

[sullen minnow]

I see the reason they didn’t play anymore was cuz their job became kinda ass and never really got seriously buffed and while I’m not trying to rope them back in I simply wanted to give them a proper lookout on how machinist now since I heard it got better

[sullen minnow]

[steep narwhal]

although it like isn't at its best or happiest spot rn

[clear plume]

MCH performs well when youre aiming to do low amount of clears or prog in an unoptimized setting due to a lower reliance on RNG which makes it underperform in good groups where raid buff optimization is well executed and reliable, this is why it performs well on lower fflogs rankings and the off patch.

it still has the same issues, and largely its own buffs are compensated with the other prange because of jobs 2m bursts being buffed alongside mch.

it has a place it can succeed but in its current design will never be meta for good players and will largely keep its repuation as a bad job because of it.

[steep narwhal]

most pfs would rather have a competent mch rather than a confused brd/dnc

[robust shoal]

yeah it's like

[clear plume]

well yeah, but a competent mch is also just going to be a competent dnc its not exclusive like that the jobs do the same thing

[robust shoal]

not an outlier exception to "all jobs balanced" right now

but you never know what the future holds

[steep narwhal]

like yeah mch is in a sad spot rn but

so are most dnc players

[sullen minnow]

I see

[steep narwhal]

[clear plume]

mch and warrior are largely in the same hole

[sullen minnow]

So it’s not good but also not bad that kind of deal cuz it’s ranged over all?

[clear plume]

really good in casual groups to where theyll never be serious meta

[robust shoal]

We're gonna get another 4:30 ulti final phase and mch in the toilet again

[steep narwhal]

i mean tbh mch wasn't in as bad of a spot in fru

compared to summoner

[robust shoal]

for the average player I'd say it's just outright good

[steep narwhal]

[robust shoal]

SMN

[steep narwhal]

summoner fru...

[robust shoal]

poor smn falls apart the moment you do anything other than burst on cd every single minute

[steep narwhal]

the biggest clown of them all

[wicked delta]

Just tell me im bad

[robust shoal]

Imagine having a two-target phase and SMN being absolute pants

[sullen minnow]

[steep narwhal]

i said most.

not all.

U R NOT BAD

[wicked delta]

[steep narwhal]

U STUPID

[wicked delta]

THANKS THAT MAKES IT BETTER

[robust shoal]

Can't wait for DRK+PCT dominance in 7.5 ulti yet again

[steep narwhal]

no way tobias is calling himself bad

after what i saw today in uwu

[clear plume]

I had a trial that they forgot to send me the toolbox they were using and the average prange is so abyssmal that I still was a standout for the trialed players so idfk

[wicked delta]

Whuh happun

In uwu

[robust shoal]

man I love uwu

it's so fun

[sullen minnow]

They said they wanted to dedicate Dawntrial mainly to encounters and 8.0 for job design right

Or did I imagine that

[robust shoal]

More or less yeah

[sullen minnow]

Maybe machinist gets some significant changes then

[robust shoal]

I'll believe it when I see it frankly

[sullen minnow]

Although I’m not educated enough about mch idk what they’d need to change

[clear plume]

mch isnt going to get a rework realistically

[robust shoal]

MCH needs SE to finish making the other half of its buttons

[clear plume]

its an incredibly powerful job

not powerful but

[sullen minnow]

I know reaper could use some better ways to get gauge cuz it feels incredibly horrible to die on rpr specifically for me compared to like picto

[clear plume]

ppopular

its like saying theyre going to rework whm where yeah they should have a decade ago but as long as people like it theyre never going to

[robust shoal]

rpr is gauge negative over time and that got worse in DT

[sullen minnow]

Yeah so I’ve heard

I haven’t leveled it to 100 yet

But my friend said I’ll have a even worse time at 100

And dying will just feel worse

[robust shoal]

I think it's a 125s loop instead of 123s loop or sth now

[wicked delta]

If you die right before 2 min on RPR your whole rotation is ass fucked lmao

[robust shoal]

It's fun in ulti though

[wicked delta]

1 min you could kinda recover from it but

[sullen minnow]

What.

[trim frost]

would balancing be out of whack if jobs didn't lose gauge on death

[robust shoal]

There was some recent change that made double enshroud less clunky right

[wicked delta]

Yea

[sullen minnow]

Oh thank god

[wicked delta]

5 sec cd

[robust shoal]

Like SE finally giving in and admitting that double enshroud is what you're supposed to do

[sullen minnow]

It always felt super clunky whenever I did it before

[clear plume]

rpr is technically still gauge negative but its still at a point where it doesnt change how it plays

you still delay the 7m burst like in ew

[wicked delta]

SE was fighting for its life to delete double shroud lmaooo

[sullen minnow]

Like idk

[clear plume]

and like at the 13m mark its changed again but 13m of uptime doesnt exist

[sullen minnow]

Maybe it’s cuz I’m used to doing double shroud but single shroud feels less natural than double

And then there’s funky triple shroud

[wicked delta]

In an ultimate context, there is not enough uptime to recover half of the time

RPR can’t build up gauge naturally

[sullen minnow]

Is hammer still a dps loss for picto I forgor

[wicked delta]

So if you die and the boss goes untargetable then… yeah gg

[clear plume]

idk, ultimate kind of only tends to perform well in ultimates so thats not a hill im going to delve into

rpr*

like its the one content its ever been actually meta in

[wicked delta]

I mean yeah but this is more about how it feels than it being good or not lmao

Its just painful to die on RPR more than any other job

Well i guess viper exists

?

I don’t play it

[clear plume]

idk, its not unique in that

[sullen minnow]

I keep doing hammer in burst for picto

[clear plume]

picto dying and losing motifs, viper, mch/dnc gauge

hammer is a gain again and even when it wasnt it was by such a minimal amount it didnt matter if you did

like 40 potency per average window to just play it how it was

[wicked delta]

Dying on DNC does not feel anywhere near as painful to me

[clear plume]

absolutely overblown from the community

[sullen minnow]

Yeah Olivia said that too that it really isn’t a huge deal if I do it or not

[clear plume]

i say like bc it was based on if you crit the filler or not to begin with

[sullen minnow]

But I was so hyper focused on playing the job perfectly in hopes to clear some endgame content for once

[clear plume]

and your crit/dh stats

[wicked delta]

Just send it if u feel like it

Lol

[steep narwhal]

even endgame players don't play perfectly

[clear plume]

the worst trap you can get into is trying to play perfectly in prog

[steep narwhal]

^

[clear plume]

just do what feels right and keep gcd going and buffs roughly aligned, outside of that its practicing enough that what feels right isnt fucking up combo

[wicked delta]

Some dumbass tank kept killing the party over n over for M6S tankbuster bc he needed “uptime”

[sullen minnow]

Yeah I am so incredibly traumatized by party finder

[robust shoal]

vpr rotation doesn't rly get screwed by dying so much as you're a giga resource job and it's possible to lose three reawakens with a perfectly timed death and may as well die irl at that point

[steep narwhal]

who i kill

[wicked delta]

PF is a horrible place

I don’t have the mental strength for it

And yet it’s all I have

[sullen minnow]

When hyadaelyn ex was current and I tried to do it for the first time people horrendously picked on me for not being perfect cuz I was completely new to raiding in this game and I did all the preparations I could but instead of telling me what I did wrong I just got told mean words and I didn’t really step into pf since at least not alone

Cuz that experience alone made me think I’m simply a bad player thus forming the believe I have to play to uttermost perfection before going there ever again

[clear plume]

thats a part of getting good at something, is being bad at it at first

the only people naturally "good" at something just started it early enough in life to not be criticized for it

[wicked delta]

The most important part is like

Accepting that ur bad

And then striving to be better

Most people don’t have natural skill to be good at everything they touch and that’s fine

As long as ur willing to learn then its all good

[sullen minnow]

Although my desire to be perfect probably lead to the opposite cuz I stress out the Moment I miss a single skill and became obsessed with my performance instead of just playing the game

[wicked delta]

A lot of ppl in pf aren’t willing to accept that they suck and never improve as a result

[robust shoal]

Even people who are really good at the game typically start out below average

[clear plume]

i am largely considered to be a good player, last week I got a green parse on every fight on vpr for reclears and a grey on smn because i was derusting those jobs, it is what it is you need to put practice in

[sullen minnow]

I THINK I can play picto fine enough cuz it’s relatively simple for my adhd brain but alas

High end became scary cuz people scary

So I’m not scared of raiding but of the people who I may have to raid with I think

[wicked delta]

You can always raid with friends

Its what I prefer

And if you don’t have any friends who raid, seek out friends

Raiders in XIV are really sweaty toxic assholes but can also be super chill n sweet people

[clear plume]

i think its a little bit of a trap to only raid with friends, because youre going to have a bit of like, them covering for you that if you ever raid without them youll only notice later but yeah

[wicked delta]

Like despite how I talk to some people here, I always find it a joy to play with folks in this chat

Most of it was with Bungo who I flamed for having shitty internet

And then also Bapple who I flamed for being short

[robust shoal]

I've been wanting to pug more just because of that

Since pretty early on I've done the vast majority of my raiding in premades

[steep narwhal]

CATS UR FINE

STOP IMPOSTER SYNDROMING URSELF

[robust shoal]

[steep narwhal]

oh my god this cats

u witerally pugged so much

u witerally were in the m4s mines

[wicked delta]

One of the best drk players out there: “omg im so bad”

[steep narwhal]

and released some beasts into pf

[wicked delta]

[sullen minnow]

The only issue is that I’m not the fastest learner in games like lost Ark I learn in incredibly fast but in ffxiv I somehow struggle to learn or decipher mechanics and I wonder if it may be overstimulation or not but alas I don’t know anyone I could raid with tbh most people I know who raid are on NA

[steep narwhal]

[robust shoal]

yeah I started doing pug m4s as a conscious effort for that

and then uhh

kept going lol

[steep narwhal]

and then u reealized some ppl rlly shit

[wicked delta]

I do prefer PF over friends bc it forces me to actually learn mechanics lol

[sullen minnow]

I think just clearing a extreme that isn’t ex1 would mean the world to me probably cuz I only cleared ex1 and I had people tell me that’s a nothing burger cuz it’s easy and only extreme

[trim frost]

im incapable of progging anything beyond an ex without getting severely depressed

[robust shoal]

I've known it but yeah it was a great exploration of how garbage some people are

[steep narwhal]

ok but it's still an extreme

[wicked delta]

I wanna clear DSR but PF is so demotivating

Its all memes

[steep narwhal]

u shouldnt let anyone take tht achievement away from u

[robust shoal]

Legitimately 300 kills in pugs were still entertaining for all the stupid nonsense that would occur

[wicked delta]

Its all memes

[steep narwhal]

whatever "i hate lulu" whatever "lulu js go to a corner and cry"

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-cat-in-front-of-sea-gif-16930437336998530733

[steep narwhal]

"lulu js go cry in a hole or something" -what tobias basically said

[wicked delta]

Wtf

[trim frost]

half the reason i havent really touched ex's much outside of 1/2 this expac is because i just get random performance anxiety about it

[wicked delta]

Wtf!!

[trim frost]

lol

lol

[wicked delta]

These allegations…….

[clear plume]

a part of trying to be your/the best is recognizing where you have flaws, even if to most people theyre minor, its not exactly imposter syndrome to delve into some of them as long as you dont hyperfocus on them and get worse elsewhere than you improve there

[robust shoal]

I still have no idea how to read any of mordum's hammer patterns

[daring pine]

its ok lulu ily /p

[steep narwhal]

im out here talking abt how i love dsr

[clear plume]

like im ultimately a league coach not ffxiv but yeah important distinction to point out, being critical isnt imposter syndrome

[steep narwhal]

and this tobias guy out here like "man i wana prog dsr but idk"

[wicked delta]

Wtf……

My BAD

[steep narwhal]

whatever bruh

[wicked delta]

I never claimed I could read ok

Im just oopid

[steep narwhal]

hes colorblind he cant read

whats next

[trim frost]

i open pf
i lose three liters of sweat from my palms
i close pf

[wicked delta]

Im legally blind now

[steep narwhal]

im eating everyone here

[robust shoal]

I almost had a perfect lockout of DSR on thursday and then I beefed it on hallowed plume right at the end :^)

[sullen minnow]

It’s like the same people who say stuff like that about others clearing uwu and it really makes me feel like I achieved nothing for me those things are hard especially cuz I constantly deal with overstimulation mainly cuz my brain is weird and idk what it is exactly that’s overwhelming

I wanted to do current ex but I for one lack the gear and I don’t know anyone who would help me get a grip on it so I can learn maybe next ex? Idk

[robust shoal]

I even did cursed meteors

[steep narwhal]

IT'S OKAY

U R HUMAN

OH MY GOD

guess what cats ur human ur not perfect

[dapper zealot]

I spent so much time prepping for first ex cause I was anxious about how well I'd do. Then I found out how shit the average player is

[robust shoal]

But I seek the strength and certainty of steel

[steep narwhal]

sorry

ur human

[steep narwhal]

tbh people who take away from ur achievements bc they think content is easier is

[clear plume]

the new pokemon game my riolu is level 45 and still not max friendship madge

[wicked delta]

Once im free from babysitting we go back to DSR on god

[sullen minnow]

Or the time I got told I’ll never clear an ultimate of any kind that still stuck with me somehow

[wicked delta]

[trim frost]

its like my anxiety about it refreshes every day lol

[steep narwhal]

U CAN CLEAR AN ULT

[trim frost]

like yeah if i go in and i witness players playing like absolute shit i'll instantly feel better abt myself

[steep narwhal]

ohj my god im so done

[sullen minnow]

I just wanna be part of smth too and understand the game better

[steep narwhal]

im skipping my eu alt now

[trim frost]

but tomorrow? who knows......

[steep narwhal]

ill raid w u

[sullen minnow]

It was violet

lol

[steep narwhal]

ok well

no offense

[robust shoal]

I actually have some processing issues sometimes

[steep narwhal]

but they r on my blacklist

bc of something they did in pf

so

[wicked delta]

Im gonna do dsr on eu

[steep narwhal]

👍

[sullen minnow]

Understandable I suppose

But yeah she said that

[steep narwhal]

well

guess what

[robust shoal]

You just have to learn how to cut through the visual noise and figure out what the important tells are

[sullen minnow]

[steep narwhal]

what she says doesnt matter to u bc

[robust shoal]

And that just takes reps

[steep narwhal]

if u want to clear

and u put in the effort

ucan clear

[sullen minnow]

Yeah that is just taking a lot of time on my end

[trim frost]

i dont put in the effort because i get scared

[steep narwhal]

one of my friends also thought the same way like " i cant clear an ultimate"

but now shes close to clearing uwu right now

[robust shoal]

But like I will say that wroth flames and run omega are not my favorite mechanics

[steep narwhal]

im eating u

anyways

[trim frost]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-15677826050545973054

[daring pine]

WE get scared

[trim frost]

#true

[zealous meteor]

they are CLEARLY a pile of cats.

[trim frost]

how does lou do it man

[daring pine]

idk

[trim frost]

my mental gets ruined after 1 hour of prog

[daring pine]

after 2 hours of prog i fall asleep brah

[robust shoal]

Doesn't help that I'm either doing run omega on a job I never play so I'm hyperfocused on the 2min or I'm playing a job I'm extremely familiar with so I'm hyperfocused on getting the perfect 2min

[wicked delta]

I can do 2 hours and my brain will start lagging

[steep narwhal]

true

[wicked delta]

Im not built for hardcore prog

[clear plume]

but yeah, if any new raiders actually need help ever with wanting somebody who can ego check pf randoms im back in my derust phase of the patch cycle so i can spare an evening sometime for any dc

[daring pine]

valcors do u wanna help me clear later

[robust shoal]

There's a happy medium of job mastery for optimal brainless rotation

[trim frost]

in fairness tho

i have other things i need to worry about

[wicked delta]

I did it for M5S (i was in pf for like 10 hours straight) (most of it was waiting around but still) and that was probably the most demoralizing experience ive had in this game

[trim frost]

like decrypting this shit

lol

[daring pine]

wtf is that

[trim frost]

my assignment

[daring pine]

bro

what

[trim frost]

yeah

[steep narwhal]

valcors would u do tea

if i did it with u

[robust shoal]

I'll make eu alt so I can play with ppl (I won't)

[trim frost]

its like

its not a matter of who i do it with

[sullen minnow]

What the fuck man

[steep narwhal]

ok valcors js completely left ht echat when i asked

[trim frost]

it sjust

[steep narwhal]

no

no no its ok

u js hate me

[daring pine]

lulu

[trim frost]

i dont want to waste time

[daring pine]

can u do me a favour

[steep narwhal]

is it not fun w freinds

[trim frost]

IM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORD IT OH MY GOD BRUH

[steep narwhal]

"waste time"

[trim frost]

THE PF RANDOMS

[sullen minnow]

U wanna do my med school homework SO BAD

[steep narwhal]

so spending time w me is waste time

whatever.

WHATEVER.

[trim frost]

i feel like i cant not waste time if i dont have a full 8-man

[steep narwhal]

ok

what if i find u full 8 man

[trim frost]

yea gl doing that

i leave the country in a week

[daring pine]

lulu when am i getting avengers to help me clear

[steep narwhal]

when r u back

[steep narwhal]

ultimate it's easy

savage tier

[trim frost]

umm

[steep narwhal]

[trim frost]

december i think

[daring pine]

i wanna climb in the ring

[steep narwhal]

ok bc thts when my classes end

[trim frost]

the ni have to

[daring pine]

valcors

do m7s with me later

[trim frost]

renew some fucking microsoft certifications

lmao

ummmm so m7s also gives me anxiety lol lmao

[zealous meteor]

just queue for M8 normal smh
unleashed is the bgm for normal mode too

[steep narwhal]

also im like ill rn

[trim frost]

ive been wanting to re-enter for glam and stuff but like

[steep narwhal]

i did some uwu yesterday and then i

[trim frost]

scarege

[steep narwhal]

literally conked

[daring pine]

yeah but people will fuck up seeds somehow and u wont be anxious anymore

:)

[sullen minnow]

Kinda funny that ffxiv causes me overstimulation but lost Ark that’s visually twice as intense just dosent

This dumb ahh brain makes NO sense

[trim frost]

did i tell u

[sullen minnow]

[trim frost]

my first clear

i got a 4

because i forgot to press ld in p1

[daring pine]

ok but

[steep narwhal]

ok and

[trim frost]

and my burst drifted by 90 seconds

[steep narwhal]

tht was ur first clear

[daring pine]

having a shit % on ur first clear is

normal

[robust shoal]

I find lost ark a lot easier to cut through the visual noise

[trim frost]

i wanted to die so bad bruh

[daring pine]

u can improve ur parse later

first clear is first clear

[steep narwhal]

"did u know that i was bad on my first completion at something"

[robust shoal]

Except mordum but I just don't know what any of his normal patterns are :^)

[steep narwhal]

[trim frost]

I FUCKED UP

ONE MINUTE INTO THE FIGHT

[daring pine]

its ok valcors we all do

but u cleared

[trim frost]

AND IT RUINED MY OUTPUT FOR THE ENTIRE FIGHT

[daring pine]

❤️

[steep narwhal]

btw guys

[sullen minnow]

Will be interesting to see if aion 2 causes me overstimulation or not

[steep narwhal]

im gonna fucking be toxic

his second clear

he immediately got

a blue

whatevver.

[trim frost]

oh and also adrian had a bozjan earring on lmao.

[steep narwhal]

"im so bad"

[daring pine]

LMAO

bozjan earring

[zealous meteor]

i'm gonna make sure i get a 0 for literally everything

[steep narwhal]

"im so bad woe is me"

[daring pine]

wtf

[sullen minnow]

You don’t have to know you just have to move depending on what your gut tells you that day

[steep narwhal]

LOOK AT THIS

[daring pine]

bro

[steep narwhal]

HJE LITERALLY GOT A 74

[daring pine]

this guy valcors

[steep narwhal]

A WEEK LATER

AND HES SAYING

[daring pine]

thats

[steep narwhal]

"IM BAD"

OH MY GOD

[daring pine]

thats nice

[trim frost]

theres a reason i dont have any more parses than that

[daring pine]

i still need to get my 6s % up

[sullen minnow]

Speaking off party finder I’m playin aion and I’m dealing with its equivalent of a party finder rn and I swear these fucks worse than ffxiv pf

[steep narwhal]

my chest hurts sm

[trim frost]

i lidolly

cannot will myself

to do things

its so bad

[daring pine]

valcors

why r u so relatable

?

[steep narwhal]

if it makes u feel better

[daring pine]

this guy

[steep narwhal]

i also cried today after uwu pf

[daring pine]

dude

pf burnt me out so bad after 6s

[steep narwhal]

actually

[daring pine]

i havent been in 7 in 2 weeks

💔

[steep narwhal]

i cry after everytime i raid

[daring pine]

i had a pf up

for an hour last night

[wicked delta]

Meeeee

[daring pine]

and nobody joined

[wicked delta]

I didn’t do 7S at all

Its really sad

[robust shoal]

heavyweight pf gonna be lit

[wicked delta]

Cus I was halfway through the fight in one lockout

[daring pine]

p3 dd to clear party and no joins

in an HOUR

[daring pine]

yea my first lockout we got to p3

[wicked delta]

But I was so tired of getting flamed by ppl and

[daring pine]

which was fucking amazing

[sullen minnow]

Oh yeah

[daring pine]

and then the pfs after that were uh

erm

[sullen minnow]

How’s the deep dungeon

:3

[robust shoal]

m7s is crazy because you see enrage like halfway through your prog lmao

[daring pine]

like

im trying to cleanup myself

but the other people in pf are also dogshit

[robust shoal]

Pilgrim's is p easy

[trim frost]

i need to like

[robust shoal]

I think it's viable to pug matchmake for oils to get the hair

[trim frost]

soft get back into high end

someone do extremes with me

im baby

[robust shoal]

I don't have any wings

[steep narwhal]

i didnt even do

[robust shoal]

I need to farm them at some point

[steep narwhal]

this recent extreme

[trim frost]

yea me neither

[robust shoal]

Also need to learn queen eternal

I never did it

[wicked delta]

I didn’t touch necron

[trim frost]

bc i got anxious about going in blind

!

[wicked delta]

I didn’t touch arkveld

[trim frost]

you know what i did touch

[robust shoal]

I only have a couple clears of necron/arkveld

[steep narwhal]

flour

should i just buy the new hair

[trim frost]

the hearts of friends and family

[steep narwhal]

its only 29 mil rn

[trim frost]

this is literally me btw

[robust shoal]

I sold mine for 20 mil bc I didn't realize it was gonna be so rare

[steep narwhal]

i dont think im gonna do PT anytime soon

[trim frost]

why not

[steep narwhal]

bc i am

[sullen minnow]

The new hair is 33 million guess I’ll unlock the DD

[steep narwhal]

mentally not ok rn

[trim frost]

bro is

u know what

mutual blackmail

i do tea if u do pt 1-100

[robust shoal]

endgame lounge pilgrims static

[steep narwhal]

WTF

[wicked delta]

Nowaying

I got to floor 88 before I got jumped by like 6 succubi

It was so sad

[dreamy whale]

Nowayingway

[wicked delta]

And it wasn’t even the succubus that killed me

[sullen minnow]

Hey I’d join

[wicked delta]

I got killed by a fucking lion

[steep narwhal]

[dreamy whale]

Shrimply play warrior i heard it's impossible to lose

[trim frost]

yea

[sullen minnow]

But my ass is EU

[trim frost]

YEA

[sullen minnow]

[trim frost]

how bout them apples

[wicked delta]

Brother it one shots

[steep narwhal]

[dreamy whale]

Ohg

[wicked delta]

I was a tank

[steep narwhal]

@trim frost wat were u sayinf

LMAOAO

[trim frost]

oh

i did not realize that was qnh

[wicked delta]

Bro

[trim frost]

🙂

[steep narwhal]

LMSDLJASBLGKJDSGB

BAHAHAHAHA

WALL FAT PASLAM

[robust shoal]

pld clears tbh

[steep narwhal]

ABDHSBDALKGBDS

AHAHHAHHAHHA

BHAAHAHAHAHAH

[robust shoal]

war is super overrated in DD

[trim frost]

https://giphy.com/gifs/galaxypeabrain-schOhQSbV6iB12Hh3h

[wicked delta]

Yea PLD has been serving me well

[trim frost]

war aint allat for this dd i feel

i switched to pld after 71

[sullen minnow]

I want your server tag I’m gonna steal it

[trim frost]

i enjoy not being a slave to melee range

[robust shoal]

pilgrims especially you can stun almost everything

[steep narwhal]

[rain geode]

Everything one shots you so its not like WARs crazy survivability buttons matter much

[trim frost]

the pld diff

is shield bash

unironically

[dapper zealot]

And thus did the Lord speak,

[dreamy whale]

I gotta stop listening to tiktok comments

[wicked delta]

Everything WAR can do PLD just like

Diff’s

Lol

[steep narwhal]

wall fart psalm.

[trim frost]

what does this mean

[dapper zealot]

Amen.

[steep narwhal]

wall fart psalm.

[sullen minnow]

[dreamy whale]

Tiktok was saying "it's impossible to lose on warrior in PT if you just dodge the one shot mechanics"

[trim frost]

.

[wicked delta]

I can’t

[sullen minnow]

…

TikTok moment

Gg go next

Just like my zzz pulls let’s see if I get a S rank today

[wicked delta]

Dodge mechanic = you live ?!?!!!?!!!?????

I can’t believe this

https://tenor.com/view/drake-yachty-censored-not-drake-tech-support-gif-8658410013845332703

[dapper zealot]

omg I can't believe I haven't been doing that

this changes everything

[sullen minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/parks-and-rec-andy-dwyer-chris-pratt-jaw-drop-shocked-gif-17115348

[robust shoal]

The average ffxiv player's opinion on anything related to job strength is incredibly bad

[sullen minnow]

Guys did you know that

If you HIT the enemy you can KILL them?

[trim frost]

100% serious btw.

u know whatd be funny

what if i just studied every ult on my 12 hr flight

[sullen minnow]

And did you know that if you PLAY OPTIMAL you can do it FASTER and BETTET

[trim frost]

surely i one pull all of them

[random needle]

https://tenor.com/view/my-goodness-what-an-idea-why-didnt-i-facepalm-the-simpsons-gif-17489109

[trim frost]

the average white mage does not know this

[sullen minnow]

The average heal bot

[random needle]

The average DF Darren does not know this

[sullen minnow]

My bf had a whm once who was doing savage mind you since he’s a raider who deadass insisted that they don’t need to dps cuz that’s not their job

And my bf was mad cuz it was fucking SAVAGE

[dapper zealot]

sounds like a job skipper

[random needle]

What do people like that even do when they're not actively healing

[sullen minnow]

Stand around

I saw it with my own eyes

And then they had the guts the blame the other 7 for hitting enrage when they weren’t the issue

[random needle]

Actual lobotomite

[sullen minnow]

“You’re griefing”
“I’m not just do your job better” ahh mentality

[sick dirge]

me when i cant grasp the importance of healer dps

[wicked delta]

I got dzemael darkhold yesterday

Scholar

no faerie
no dps

What’s even the point of this guy?

[zealous meteor]

imagine playing scholar and not even having your carbuncle out

[boreal pumice]

tobi pls stop doing mentor i worry about your mental health

[wicked delta]

[zealous meteor]

yeah, if you want to destroy your mental health, just look up politics

no need to do mentor roulette

[wicked delta]

But watching people be bad at video games is more fun

[boreal pumice]

tobi writes for tales of df

[jade nimbus]

Or game reviews discourse

[wicked delta]

If I wrote about my daily roulette experience I could fill up the whole subreddit

[worldly grotto]

Do it

[wicked delta]

Toby’s derangement syndrome: a mentor roulette story

Sounds like a good title for a google document

[worldly grotto]

Sounds like a manifesto

[wicked delta]

I will start advocating for telling people to delete their service accounts

A new toxic era will begin with this document

[worldly grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-gif-40123618314459872

[pale blade]

Pokemon vs. Digimon tribalism or something

[remote gate]

read the comment sections of news casters on Facebook

[craggy marsh]

I never understood why certain fanbases have to be against eachother

Can't people just like both

[pale blade]

“You’re not supposed to have nuanced opinions, it’s one extreme or the other”

[craggy marsh]

WoW bad XIV good

Bc uhhh

Uhhh

XIV better story therefore its the better game

Updoots to the left pls and thank you

[pale blade]

WoW bad, XIV bad, I fucking hate video games and making them

[craggy marsh]

True video games suck now let's all go make out at a fancy Italian place

[torn mesa]

/r ffxiv upvote guide

[tired egret]

everything just fucking sucks, and humanity was a mistake from nature

[boreal pumice]

food good

[jolly flume]

only some food

[boreal pumice]

john wayne the clown?

[pale blade]

no

[mortal flower]

Is this pee pee (verb) or pee pee (noun)

[boreal pumice]

oui oui

[craggy marsh]

How to karma farm in shitpostxiv: Just upload something from the mainsub but with a silly caption

How to karma farm in xivdiscussion: Say XIV bad

How to karma farm in the normal xiv sub: post low effort fan art

[mortal flower]

posts an image of my character with 17 diffrent visual mods + custom outfits and caption "this game is so beautful"

and when asked what the outfit is name a mod.

+800000 karma

posts a discussion thread about the newest piece of content

get alot of angry people that is isn't crafting + earning infinite money simulator and that cute mounts shouldn't be behind this sort of content.

have the post removed due to use of slurs in the comment section

I love ffxiv

I just wish I could play wow instead

[remote gate]

when TEA pf says bpog, what phase are they talking about

[boreal pumice]

i just play abit of wow when they do stuff with classic