questions-and-help

[faint flare]

The normal code is added later

[heavy mica]

aha, ty

ill check it later

[spice helm]

I think Steam only has the one? But if you buy direct from SE you get the preorder code and then the actual code on the 7th

[faint flare]

SE makes a lodestone post about it

[heavy mica]

nah i got 2 from steam

[faint flare]

Steam has 2

[spice helm]

ah

[faint flare]

Everyone but console.does

[heavy mica]

wish we got just one too

[faint flare]

SE people only get 1 now and one later

Steam gets both now

[heavy mica]

absolute confusion

By the by i heard that even if you dont insert the normal endwalker code ,you can play the expansion a bit with early access code

is that right?

[spice helm]

I guess mogstation gets updated on the 7th and you enter it then, their post about it said you have until the 10th before you get locked from anything

yeah 3 day grace period

[heavy mica]

aha, so im not actually in any rush to enter the code

[spice helm]

after early access

[heavy mica]

🤔

[faint flare]

Early access ends on the 10th

[heavy mica]

ty folks

[faint flare]

After that you need the regular code

[lethal mist]

For non-steam users this is how it is (just got this today, you should've gotten it too).

[warm bane]

Early access expansion is so dumb

Lmao

[lethal mist]

Well it does put less strain on the servers which is partly the reason so I don't think it's dumb in that sense.

[warm bane]

How long is the actual maint

[obtuse mountain]

do we know when the class changes will be released?

24 hours

[warm bane]

Aight bet

[obtuse mountain]

literally all day today

[warm bane]

Immediately

[solemn jewel]

Tomorrow when maintenance is over

[warm bane]

Can you still pre order

[obtuse mountain]

don't forget that they will also charge you on the day the expansion releases

i got an email about it

[obtuse mountain]

no

[warm bane]

Or is it too late

F

[obtuse mountain]

it's too late

[warm bane]

I have it just asking for mate on console

[obtuse mountain]

pre orders were open til december 1st

if i believe

[solemn jewel]

No u can still preorder

[obtuse mountain]

oh

[warm bane]

Sweet I’ll let him know

Thanks king

[coral elk]

@flat basalt don’t know if you saw already but in regards to your earlier question, the official job info is out now! 🙂

[warm bane]

Can we become bunny boys tomorrow

[faint flare]

Yes

[solemn jewel]

Yes

[warm bane]

[obtuse mountain]

https://gyazo.com/5f48309b33ea98bdc63662a0baafdbe0

reminder for anyone who preordered

or did early access

[warm bane]

Some people don’t like pre ordering

[obtuse mountain]

have the money in your account when the patch goes live

[flat basalt]

Thanks for looking out bro. Appreciate it.

[warm bane]

A lot

[solemn jewel]

They already debited

[obtuse mountain]

on squeex website?

[obtuse mountain]

then wtf email did i get

[faint flare]

Cause they don't have the money to preorder

Or something

It's a whole marketing thing

[solemn jewel]

Idk but i know multiple people who already got debited

[coral elk]

Yup! Go to their job guide website for 14 - everything has been updated

[obtuse mountain]

< O <

i forgot the link

lol

found it

[steep gate]

I bought the early access Endwalker, but the lodestone shows I have 0 characters on 0 worlds

[alpine shadow]

you should only find the preorder code there atm

[steep gate]

am I correct in assuming this is because of the server status?

[solemn jewel]

The sites offline

[lethal mist]

Already charged like a week ago so that's done. No worries.

[alpine shadow]

try logging into mogstation instead

[steep gate]

mogstation says I have 0 characters to give my pre purchase rewards to

[obtuse mountain]

oh-

where do i go to talk about job spoilers

which channel that be

[alpine shadow]

pre-purchase awards are for all characters

[alpine shadow]

#915289399003086858

[steep gate]

actually, would I need to log the regular endwalker code before the early access one?

[solemn jewel]

No

[alpine shadow]

no, early access only atm.

[solemn jewel]

U can't even use that code yet

[alpine shadow]

i checked my mogstation, and even for me it says no characters, so yeah, its cause the servers are down

[steep gate]

well I guess inputting the key is somewhat meaningless at this point anyway 😄

ty for the help

✨

[alpine shadow]

ah, nah the early access key you are able to add

so you need to add that key if you want the rewards

before the game releases

[humble epoch]

How do i join early access ?

[solemn jewel]

Add the early access code to ur account and wait until maintenance is over

[humble epoch]

Where do i get the code?

[obsidian patio]

Emailed to you

[humble epoch]

So it's random?

not all get it?

[obsidian patio]

What?

[barren granite]

servers up ? 🙂

[obsidian patio]

No you get it in an email after buying it

[barren granite]

jk

[hasty musk]

Please don't

[solemn jewel]

The code is in the email from the Preorder

[obsidian patio]

I will not hesitate to bap trolls during these 24 hours

[barren granite]

Loud and Clear 🙂

[night plank]

Patch will be available to pre download at 3 AM europe right? According to the information shared about the japanese time

[solemn jewel]

Around that time yes

[humble epoch]

I can't find that email, is there another way to get it?

[obsidian patio]

Check your spam/trash

[solemn jewel]

Did u have the earring in game

[humble epoch]

Yeah i have the earring

Good point, will check spam

[obsidian patio]

Then yes you used it.

[humble epoch]

I used it?

[solemn jewel]

Yes

You have Access then

[humble epoch]

The pre order + earring comes in the same?

[solemn jewel]

It's the same code

Having the earring means you have access to early access

[humble epoch]

Aaah i see

So as he said, at 3am i'm able to play it ?

[solemn jewel]

No

Then it's pre download

Maintenance is over 9am GMT

[humble epoch]

Ah

[barren granite]

probably big DL right ?

[solemn jewel]

10 gig on pc

[barren granite]

k

[humble epoch]

10GB?

[faint flare]

Yes

[humble epoch]

That'll take 2,6 minutes for me

[jade moat]

So then, if I understand correctly what I already read here, I don't need to activate any other code in any other menu on Mogstation, if I am already using the earrings ingame.

[humble epoch]

Anyways, thanks for info!

[solemn jewel]

For early access yes

After December 7th u need to use the Endwalker game code

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[jade moat]

The same code I used for early access? Or do/will I have another one?

[solemn jewel]

You will get another one

There should be an info email in ur inbox rn

[jade moat]

Dec 7th, on SE account, as the email wrote, aye?

[solemn jewel]

Yup

[verbal rune]

btw anyone has a video of someone analyzing reaper toolkit

and how it works?

[jade moat]

Yeah, I'm just always paranoid I'll fuck something up, so I'm just panic questioning everything now

[verbal rune]

(like, from media tour)

[hasty musk]

Go look up the media tour footage

You have google

[verbal rune]

a bit rude, but ok

[drifting parcel]

it's not possible to download the game without having an active sub right?

[verbal rune]

I asked cause there are a lot of reaper video, and was wondering if someone had a suggestion for what to look at

[thorny yoke]

is there like an automatic activate

[alpine shadow]

atm, reaper has probably changed a bit, so it could be outdated

[barren granite]

wait...we should have an email from SE w/ code ?

[solemn jewel]

No but with information regarding that

[barren granite]

hmm didnt get one

[solemn jewel]

The email explains it all

[barren granite]

im steam .. would it matter ?

[heady knot]

only 10gb?

niceeeee

[solemn jewel]

No u already have the code on steam

[thorny yoke]

so we get it on 7th?

[solemn jewel]

Ye

[thorny yoke]

if I'm not on steam

[barren granite]

ok

[solemn jewel]

Use the code steam gave u on the 7th

[barren granite]

so basically jsut acitvate on M<og station

[solemn jewel]

Yes

[barren granite]

got it

ty

very helpful

tip jar ?

[solemn jewel]

I work in customer service this is just training for me

[barren granite]

heh i used too as well ..

call centrer

was rough

[untold vessel]

For pre download, can I basically leave my launcher up (and logged in to the "the game is unavailable for play during maint"), will the launcher autopatch for me during the night, or should I try to wake up early to start it before launches (here in EU)?

[barren granite]

not sure, i think it needs to perform a file check prior to starting the DL

and a launcher check

and DX

which occurs when you open the launcher

[alpine shadow]

it won't autopatch, so you have to relaunch the launcher if you want to check if patch is available

[barren granite]

so the time you have it hanging open the launcher may change and thus need to do anopther check

[alpine shadow]

there would also be a new launcher version when the patch comes out

[untold vessel]

guess I'm waking up at 6

[barren granite]

if there was ever anything to set an alarm for, this is it bub :p

[alpine shadow]

it's just a 10 gig download, not much

[barren granite]

4am wake up for me

man watching last producer letter, and dude was really crying abouut the delay eh.

[leaden ginkgo]

when is the last day to preorder

[green grail]

december 6th

[leaden ginkgo]

W

[sonic kelp]

guys in the shadowbringers when you go that library to explain the story, do you know how the ost is called?

[barren granite]

duty library ?

[sonic kelp]

the one from house of curiosity

when it explain you the story through books there is that song specific to it

[balmy haven]

Hey, new player
I have bought the base game and endwalker. Will I get access to stormblood/shadowbringers?

[obsidian patio]

not until official release

[balmy haven]

But I will then?

[obsidian patio]

yes

[balmy haven]

Sweet

[sonic kelp]

as i remember yes, you have all the expansions

btw guys if i will choose to lvl the angry void farmer when i barely reached shadowbringers i will get spoilers for endwalker?

[digital lake]

no

[sonic kelp]

ah nice!

[digital lake]

Or at least, i strongly doubt it

[sonic kelp]

wonder if i should change my samurai for the angry void farmer

[balmy haven]

It looks like they've retired shadowbringers from both the square enix and ffxiv homepage, are you sure they won't be accessible immediately after the maintenance?

[stable herald]

if I leave the launcher on, will it automatically update?

or would it require a relaunch

[dry osprey]

Anyone able to download the patch yet?

[obsidian patio]

no

[barren granite]

relaunch to DL new launcher

[obsidian patio]

won't be for another like 12 hours or so

[verbal rune]

quick question

[rigid quiver]

On that note, would someone be able to send out a ping when the patch is available to download? Wanna make sure I can download it while at work, so I don't have to wait tomorrow for the large patch.

[dry osprey]

My internet is shit im scared that the download would take to long

[verbal rune]

how can I see which skill is OGC and not from ffxiv website?

[faint flare]

Ability

Vs weaponskill/spell

Abilities are ogcd

[verbal rune]

ohhh

gotcha

[dry osprey]

What about off?

[dapper pier]

Is it possible to have entered a preorder code for EW early access and then have the order be not validated?

[jade quartz]

During 5.0 launch you could access SB during Early Access if you preordered. However this time there's a message on the official store page saying "access to SB and ShB won't be available until the 7th"

So we're assuming that's true as the wording is pretty unambiguous

If it's not true, blame SE for miscommunicating

[fallow birch]

Not sure but do classs changes happen often in other patches or mainly in expansion releases?

[faint flare]

Buffs and nerfs come in patches

[jade quartz]

Small adjustments every major numbered patch, occasionally larger reworks

[regal pawn]

According to Wynne that wasn't a thing
there's so much bad info

[jade quartz]

But expansions are where the big changes happen.

[balmy haven]

I mean can't do much about it either way
I'm lvl 53 and wanting to try some of the stormblood jobs, but guess I'll find out tomorrow.

[obsidian patio]

expansion launches are just jank with previous expansions

[fallow birch]

@jade quartz Thanks. Curious if they'll make some dark knight changes or reworks there.

[faint flare]

Number changes will come for normal mode and savage release

If required

[jade quartz]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ff_xiv_en/status/1093312336914309121 this is the tweet from 2019's ShB launch leadup

FINAL FANTASY XIV (@FF_XIV_EN)

@Apples_mmmmmmmm Purchasing Shadowbringers will not give you access to Stormblood as part of the pre-order. However, it will be available to play during the early access period starting June 28.

Twitter · Feb 7, 2019, 12:55 AM

[near finch]

Do i have to complete shadowbringers before playing Sage?

[obsidian patio]

no

!faq ewjobs

[zinc orbit]

Endwalker Jobs FAQ

Endwalker Expansion Jobs: Reaper(Maiming DPS) and Sage(Healer).

These jobs start at level 70 and require ownership of the Endwalker Expansion, as well as a Disciple of War or a Disciple of Magic at level 70.

Job Unlock Locations:

Reaper - Flustered Attendant at Ul'dah - Steps of Nald (X:12.8 Y:8.6) - Quest Name: The Killer Instinct

Sage - Sharlayan Maiden - Limsa Lominsa Lower Decks (X:9.4 Y:12.9) - Quest Name: Sage's Path

[obsidian patio]

no story progress needed

[near finch]

wooooo ty

[jade quartz]

if some changes are absolutely needed to jobs, they'll happen in patch 6.01 when savage drops

or thereabouts

like if they're really urgent

[dry osprey]

The only dlc classes that require story progress was the heavensward classes

[graceful sail]

I redeemed the code for early access a while ago but how can I confirm it?

[regal pawn]

[junior tundra]

what time was shadowbringers available to download

[regal pawn]

!expansion

[zinc orbit]

Tick, Tock, Kupo!

Time Until Endwalker:

20 hours, 13 minutes, 52 seconds

[regal pawn]

should be in i think 8 hours?

yes

[obsidian patio]

yes

[regal pawn]

rip

[jade quartz]

blame SE

[regal pawn]

I've been told by like 4 seperate mentors i'm wrong

While saying either side of hte argument

se pls

don't be transparent like a tire

[cursive ridge]

the answer is 'wait'

[dapper pier]

How do I confirm that i'll get my EW product code at the end of the early access?

[jade quartz]

If you preordered Endwalker, you will receive the code.

It will go to the same email via which you received the pre-order code.

[dapper pier]

My last email relating to my preorder of EW is this

I have not receive any emails since

[jade quartz]

Yes, the full product codes have not been delivered yet

they will be delivered some time into Early Access

[thorny yoke]

oh ok

[jade quartz]

Note if you're a Steam user your code can be found already in your CD keys interface, but cannot be entered on the Mog Station yet. PSN also handles things differently.

[dapper pier]

So is it true that if I click on this link it will send me to the sqeenix store and say that my product was not validated?

[fast talon]

Hi, I bought EW but im trying to figure out how to unlock SB+SB

[obsidian patio]

you get them automatically on the official release date

(probably)

there's been inconsistent wording given by SE that you'll get it on early access

But as far as I can remember, you always had to wait for official launch for any expansions bundled with the newest one

[fast talon]

So we're not entirely sure if access will be given when the servers go live OR at Dec 7

[obsidian patio]

correct

[thorny yoke]

so if a friend pre ordered ew for me does the code go to their email?

[obsidian patio]

Twitter account says early access, support page says official launch

[warped nest]

Regarding BLM, so what happens now if you cast Fire when you are in Umbral Ice 1?

[jade quartz]

It goes to whichever email was provided when they purchased it

[thorny yoke]

oh

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[opal ember]

Hi hi, question about the 2nd code for after EW's EA. If I was gifted a preorder for EW, will the 2nd code be sent to my friend who bought the gift or me who registered the preorder code to my account?

[jade quartz]

Whichever email was provided when the gift purchase was made

[heavy wadi]

answered right above

[old rain]

Will the early access get wiped? Never been current with releases until now

[heavy wadi]

no.

[stark otter]

Has anything been said about cross data center play?
The last info i found is from october. Is it still set to release between 6.0 and 6.1?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915620539761066094/915624910469070899/Capture.JPG

[atomic jewel]

How fucked am I, I logged off in an aetheryte plaza

[obsidian patio]

still the most current info

[stark otter]

ty

[regal pawn]

Depends how early you hop in the queue

[stark otter]

I'm sitting in the rising stones, praying that it's an instanced area.

[faint flare]

It will be

[stark otter]

Didnt do my research ofc.

[jade quartz]

Rising Stones typically gets instanced in patches.

[atomic jewel]

[junior tundra]

why is the pc patch bigger than the console ones

[long lintel]

can i have my own house plus an apartment in the fc house?

[regal pawn]

yes

[long lintel]

thanks

[vernal urchin]

I'm at work rn, is Endwalker already available to download?

[regal pawn]

not yet

!maint

not main, i'm stinker

!expansion

[zinc orbit]

Tick, Tock, Kupo!

Time Until Endwalker:

19 hours, 42 minutes, 55 seconds

[regal pawn]

should be aroun 7 hours i think

[hot eagle]

data compression differences

[regal pawn]

I don't remember the exact time

[faint flare]

Download is up afternoon Japanese time

So like 15 houes

[fast talon]

cant patch yet

[vernal urchin]

got it 👍

[verbal rune]

question to anyone who read reaper toolpits

you apply death design debuff before a combo? Am I reading this right?

[faint flare]

It's the first thing you do

Yes

[cursive ridge]

also i'm pretty sure the PS versions only include one quality of the game's assets and PC version has to include all of them for configurability

[verbal rune]

gotcha, thanks

[gritty oracle]

Would 2h be enough to download patch on a fairly good wired connection?

[faint flare]

Probably.. I remember stormblood download having issues. Can't remember how smooth shadowbringers went

It's 10gb

So

[neat hazel]

How can i get my full ew code if i pre order as guest in se store?

[faint flare]

They're not sent yet

[verbal rune]

also the other question I have about reaper is this:
you do blood stalk > gibbet > gallows > unveiled gibbet?

[neat hazel]

So they are going to send it to my email?

[open rivet]

depends on too many factors.
might be done in a few minutes on an ok (100mbit) connection,
but if the server is saying "nope" then it might download w/ 200kb/s regardless of your max speed

[dapper pier]

Ok so my deal is I've entered the early access code onto my Mogstation back in May and got all the early access items in-game., but seems I have failed to debit the amount. So now I bought the preorder a second time, got the invoice of amount deducted from my bank account and an email was sent to me stating that I am ready for the release date. So the question is, can I use the full game code from my second order on the early access from the first order?

[gritty oracle]

There'll be two extremes out right off the bat, right? The two leveling trials.

[jade quartz]

yep

[open rivet]

tbh I'd rather check if the first order could've been salvaged - unfulfilled payments can be grounds for future account login issues 👀

[jade quartz]

assuming the pattern sticks

[gritty oracle]

ty!

[dapper pier]

They say the order was not validated, so I guess the only option was to send a support email to SE

[sacred depot]

Do I still have time to preorder and get the benefits?

[open rivet]

yes. up until full release next week

[sacred depot]

Oh no way really? I was thinking I had until tomorrow. So I can still get like the mount and early access?

That’s sick

[open rivet]

the minion & earrings, yes

[sacred depot]

Ye, mount with deluxe I think

[faint flare]

Mount is collectors

Not preorder

It's always available

[sacred depot]

O

Ahh I understand, I was confusing my self ty for clarifying for me :)

[open rivet]

meanwhle I'm wondering if the reprint bonus (minion) of the arr artbooks will be the same minion,
cuz the name is different but it looks the same?

[verbal rune]

Another reaper question

Nothing refreshes death design, aside death design itself, no?

[boreal tree]

Good bye my Coffee Biscuits

[obsidian patio]

correct

[green grail]

the aoe version does, but nothing else

[faint flare]

It's something you press every 30s

[green grail]

whorl of death or whatever

[verbal rune]

Yeah

I also figured the reason people put gibbet before gallow is convenience

But you can do gallow > gibbet > unveiled

[obsidian patio]

They're both the same skill, essentially

just positional difference

[verbal rune]

Yeah, gotcha

Structuring the hotbar and studying the job, so that's why I'm asking, thanks

[shrewd cradle]

Game down right?

[obsidian patio]

yes

[cursive ridge]

how do shields decide which one gets consumed first?

looking at Reaper ability Arcane Crest, thinking about how will it interact with Galvanize

[digital lake]

oh god, if it overrides

[green grail]

it's a system thing

like catalyze gets consumed first over galvanize

if you critlo someone

[obsidian patio]

from my personal experience, it feels like duration is part of how it's decided

so the shields that expire first get used up first

[cursive ridge]

that should almost guarantee it is used first then

[verbal rune]

btw on skill with charges

is the cooldown (30-60 sec) the amount of time a charge takes to come back?

[obsidian patio]

yes

!action bloodletter

[zinc orbit]

**Bloodletter** : lvl 12 ARC BRD (15.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 150.
Shares a recast timer with Rain of Death.

Powered by XIVAPI

[obsidian patio]

so new bloodletter is 3 charges on 15 second recast

meaning 45 seconds to fully recharge all stacks

[cursive ridge]

new bloodletter is essentially machinist's gauss shot

[shut panther]

An issue wherein job-specific gear introduced in Patch 6.0 do not include "IL and attributes synced to current job level" in their descriptions.

does this mean that the level 90 af sets are going to be acquired early and sync upwards?

[verbal rune]

but I can do 3 bloodletters one after another with a cooldown of... 2-3 secs?

[shut panther]

less than 2-3s

[cursive ridge]

cooldown of about 0.5s

[verbal rune]

oh

didn't know

[cursive ridge]

since that's about the duration of an ability animation lock

[verbal rune]

(trying to figure where to place Soul Sctyhe/slice)

[shut panther]

it's possible it might be a bit longer than 0.5 I feel, since I suspect they aren't going to encourage double weaving the same ability

[cursive ridge]

you should be able to weave two bloodletters between your GCD shots

[shut panther]

but I guess they might? idk

[cursive ridge]

you can do that on machinist

so /shrug

[obsidian patio]

most oGCDs in general have a 0.7 internal cooldown

[cursive ridge]

although

[obsidian patio]

some being longer, like skills that move you

[cursive ridge]

nope thought gauss shot had a recast timer, it doesn't

so yeah you can double weave it

[green grail]

i feel like weaving the same ogcd in the same weave window is way clunker than two different ones

at least that's how it felt on mch

[cursive ridge]

i don't see the difference

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[cursive ridge]

by the way, for that MNK confusion on the job guide page, i believe the charts on the bottom are the less accurate information, because SAM chart has a note on it from MCH charts

so it seems like those ones were slapped together last seoncd

[digital lake]

oof

[formal condor]

perhaps they copied the chart lmao

[agile laurel]

fuko was a skill that's been introduced since the media tour

so its likely either a hash job or a mistranslation

assuming latter

[verbal rune]

btw if someone can clarify me something

[shut panther]

wait

does fuko replace the third aoe combo action that was in the media tour?

hyosetsu, I think it was called?

[agile laurel]

hyosetsu didn't make it out

[shut panther]

oh glorious fucking day

[agile laurel]

it was replaced

[shut panther]

hyosetsu was a terrible fucking idea

[agile laurel]

instead of that, we have upgraded fuga

[shut panther]

still shoha II, but I'll get over that

[faint flare]

Never liked cone into aoe

[agile laurel]

Hardly. It added bonus potency to the aoe rotation by making you go
fuga > hyosetsu > mangetsu
fuga > hyosetsu > oka

but still, point taken

[shut panther]

I'm pretty sure it was

fuga > hyosetsu when you didn't need to refresh buffs

and fuga > man/oka to refresh buffs

[agile laurel]

hardly, you could play it like I said and gain bonus potency

[shut panther]

but it was a literal 10 potency per combo difference that took up an extra button

absolute trash design

[agile laurel]

and media tour potencies are literal non-info anyway

so

[sand terrace]

So most classes got nerfed (damage based) this is due to values being reworked or not?

[cursive ridge]

not a nerf

[shut panther]

current potencies are not real numbers with any context until they can be played with

[cursive ridge]

adjustment to behind the scenes formula for physical damage

[shut panther]

formulas and weapons' damage are changed

[formal condor]

I am confused to why they revamp the verflare and verholy to aoe but add a [shoha II] instead of revamping the [shoha] to aoe

[agile laurel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shut panther]

samurai doesn't have enough buttons

[faint flare]

Probably gcd vs ogcd

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[formal condor]

originally samurai's hotbar is worst

[verbal rune]

what I need a clarification on is:
I use 50 soul gauge to use blood stalk, which grants soul reaver (lasts 30 seconds), which allows me to use either gallow or gabbit, right?

[shut panther]

yeah that was a joke, idk why they felt the need to add absolute bloat actions to sam

[sand terrace]

So that means all enemies including bosses and mobs will have less health right?

[faint flare]

Yes

EVERYONE has been squished

[shut panther]

everything past 50, specifically

1-50 scaling is unchanged afaik

[olive trellis]

magic dps get aoe sleep now idk if that was ever a thing

[obsidian patio]

Assuming nothing went wrong, synced content will be just as fast as it was before endwalker

[olive trellis]

not that it's usable but it's funny

[shut panther]

"epic" echo

for unsynced content too

[sand terrace]

Patch notes are difficult to know if the ability got nerf or not since all of them have reduced potency

[obsidian patio]

Yeah they're reworking the weapons of the physical jobs to match the weapon damage value of magic jobs, IIRC

[sand terrace]

So i guess the important part is the description after the potency

[shut panther]

yeah like patch notes potency doesn't real at all, unless you're comparing relative numbers within one class

[faint flare]

Don't compare potencies between now and then

[obsidian patio]

so the math/potencies are changing to adjust to that

[shut panther]

like, shoha is 580 potency as of endwalker, that is clearly a dramatic increase in its importance

but it doesn't tell me anything about the relative balance of sam vs other classes

[sand terrace]

I mean usually the potency showed us if the ability got slightly nerf

Comparing within the class obviously

[unborn pier]

when does shadowbringers prologue story begin in the stormblood post patch quests? im pretty over stormblood's story and just ready to breeze through it

[faint flare]

Bur those times didn't have a stat squish or forumla changes

[faint flare]

4.4

Chapter 4 in ng+

[sand terrace]

BLM got some good buffs, fire lasting more

[unborn pier]

awesome

[cursive ridge]

so with the RDM changes, does that mean you will now be able to only use one of Verflare/Verholy per melee combo? you were able to use both of them before, right?

[shut panther]

it was always one or the other

[faint flare]

You couldn't

[shut panther]

they both combo'd directly into scorch

[cursive ridge]

so wait, why did they add the mana stack thingie then

[shut panther]

for aoe, basically

[unborn pier]

is there anything else in sb post i need to know? or is it like last quest of 4.3 and onward i gotta pay attention to

[formal condor]

for aoe ye

make RDM be more flexible

[cursive ridge]

oh, so you can use those spells from moulinet too

interesting

[shut panther]

yeah, moulinet gives a stack now

[sand terrace]

Awww they increase the CD for ley lines

[shut panther]

so you moulinet 3x into the verflare/holy > scorch > resolution

verflare/scorch are also aoe now themselves, which is new

[sand terrace]

But triple cast getting another charge awesome

[shut panther]

you mean sharp?

oh

triple too now

wild

[verbal rune]

uhm...

I'm a bit confused

[sand terrace]

White mage got some good buffs

[shut panther]

no

[sand terrace]

Do you think if I read reaper and sage abilities will count as spoiler? I don't know if I will feel less excited

[verbal rune]

nah

it's like reading any other job

[shut panther]

it's not as if you've be reading them levelling

since you start at 70 anyway

don't feel liek it makes much difference

[verbal rune]

pretty much

plus you'll be able to see them all in game anyway

[barren granite]

really ? which ones ?

[cursive ridge]

are BLM really going to have to hardcast Fire3 for 3.5seconds? i don't see the half-cast time from swapping forms anywhere in the new job guide

[verbal rune]

so... a question about reaper

[sand terrace]

Healings got buffed and MP require got decreased also some extra charges for some spells like divination (or something like that) and attack spells got decrease casting time

[verbal rune]

soul reaver lasts just for 1 skill use?

[barren granite]

sweet, thats good to know ... thnaks

attack spell casting decrease is nice

[sand terrace]

Yeah I always liked the idea of WHM being a heavily healing focused

[faint flare]

Soul reaver let's you use gibbet and gallows

You only get more stacks than 1 via gluttony

[barren granite]

ditto, i hate waiting for dps to cast ... im always at edge of my seat hoping no one takes a huge hit

[shut panther]

hopefully it's just an oversight in the notes because good grief..

[sand terrace]

I wish we could fall sleep all day until tomorrow haha

[verbal rune]

oh

[sand terrace]

Shhh BLM needs to do more EXPLOSION!!

[warm snow]

Always have

That's the default cast time

[cursive ridge]

not really

if you do it in Umbral Ice3, you halve it

[shut panther]

you don't ever hardcast f3 without umbral ice 3

[warm snow]

Before the trait that lowers your cadt time when going from ice to fire

[cursive ridge]

at least that's how it was before today

[shut panther]

what he's saying is

[verbal rune]

OH

[shut panther]

on the class page right now

[cursive ridge]

you get that trait super early

[shut panther]

there's no such trait

[verbal rune]

so I have to do blood stalk into either gibbet or gallow?

my head hurts

[sand terrace]

Seems like reaper is similar to dragoon gameplay wise, similar combos and rotation

[verbal rune]

eh, I wish

well, it is pretty similar I guess

[cursive ridge]

from wayback machine, and you get fire3 at level 34, so basically only for 5 levels you're not getting that bonus

current:

[quiet oasis]

GUYS i just got a mail it says "WITH YOUR ENDWALKER PRE-ORDER BONUS CODE
YOU'RE READY FOR THE RELEASE DATE"
and it tells me stuff about the codes, but i already

used my code

[queen fern]

Well, that's not good.

[quiet oasis]

can i ignore this mail ?

[queen fern]

Not sure why they took out the Umbral Ice/Astral Fire cast time reduction.

[verbal rune]

you used ea code

the code you got is for ew

there are 2 codes basically

[shut panther]

I think it's telling you to use your actual game code between ea start and official release

so that it's seamless

[verbal rune]

one to get access to EA

and one to get access to ew after ea

[cursive ridge]

i checked german and french and they're the same

so it's not an english translation error

[round tiger]

any idea when will the download up?

[shut panther]

having to sit for 3.5s every fire phase sounds downright cancerous

[cursive ridge]

japanese seems to have similar amount of lines

[faint flare]

Afternoon Japanese time, 10pm PST probably

[round tiger]

k

[quiet oasis]

I bought the digital collector edition, just rechecked my confirmation email, just has 1 code, i used 2 weeks ago

[sand terrace]

That's a nice mechanic, sage can heal and deal damage with the same spell

[shut panther]

yeah I don't see it in the japanese either, briefly eyeing over it

having said that it being an error in the job guide wouldn't be a huge surprise to me

[cursive ridge]

i guess they want us to use triplecast for it?

[regal pawn]

That's still there, it seems to be an error

In the media build, it wasn't in the tooltips

but it was still happening

[cursive ridge]

here's hoping

[shut panther]

if I was a betting man, it was made part of l72 aspect mastery moved down to 1

along with the MP 0 effect

and they just forgot to update that tip

[regal pawn]

that seems to be the case

[cursive ridge]

if that's the case, low level BLM will finally sound like not a nightmare to level

kick transpose in a dusty corner

[regal pawn]

You might still use it

[cursive ridge]

obviously

[regal pawn]

no, you'll still use it for early leveling

until you get f3/b3

[cursive ridge]

you keepy-uppy the buff so you have a buff for your first cast of the pull

[regal pawn]

because Fire and Blizzard remove the other stacks

[shut panther]

casting a free version of either of those is probably a damage increase over transposing though, no?

[regal pawn]

Well you cast fire and you lose ice
then you have to cast it again to get fire

tranpose is just

pose
fire

[cursive ridge]

if you transpose on low mana you will just stand around doing nothing

[atomic jewel]

Dragoons new gauge.....

[shut panther]

it's a spear see

xd

[regal pawn]

That's why you transpose at low mana in fire

[wispy basalt]

a dick

[regal pawn]

so you can still cast Blizzard

[lethal mist]

Wait wtf this is real?

[faint flare]

Yes

In simple mode

[cursive ridge]

so wait is low level BLM still shit then

[lethal mist]

Oh there's a "simple mode"? cool

[faint flare]

One for eyes, one for minds focus

[regal pawn]

below f3/b3 levels, yes

[faint flare]

All gauges have a simple mode

[regal pawn]

aka
the levels it's wack at already

[lethal mist]

TIL thank you

[faint flare]

You can toggle in hud editor

[regal pawn]

Though
It might be possible to just use F2/B2 instead

but that's cursed af

[fleet steppe]

why were people trying to log out in inn rooms again?

[regal pawn]

faster loading time

[cursive ridge]

F2 gets the 3stack thing at the same level as you get F3

[open coral]

F2/B2 only grant one charge, so they have the same effect as F1/B1 from a astra/umbral standpoint.

[fleet steppe]

that's it?
is it really gonna take that long to load?

[open coral]

At low levels, at least.

[cursive ridge]

F2 will give 3 stacks and remove umbral ice at level 35

[regal pawn]

welp
transpose it is

[lilac mason]

depends on whether or not this is a typo, because on the site they imply f2 only strips UI, then you need to cast it again to get full AF, while b2 does both

[open coral]

"Grants Umbral Ice III"

[regal pawn]

taht seems correct

so it's even more cursed

though

[open coral]

"Grants Astral Fire III"

[regal pawn]

doesn't matter much

You F3 anyways

[static yacht]

Has the job site been updated to suit wnd walker yet?

[cursive ridge]

there is an "OR" in Fire 2

[cursive ridge]

there is an "AND" in blizzard 2

[regal pawn]

or removes umbral ice

[open coral]

Pre trait

[cursive ridge]

hopefully translation error

[open coral]

It only grants 1 charge until you get the trait that upgrades it.

[regal pawn]

this is post trait
all of them are assuming you're max lvl

[open coral]

Probably a typo then.

[cursive ridge]

this is level 90 but one description is inclusive, the other is exclusive

[wintry sable]

where to find the job changes in the patch notes?

[regal pawn]

F2 might just be cursed

[regal pawn]

Job Guides

https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/battle/

[faint flare]

Job guide on the site

It's linked

[wintry sable]

ty

[fleet steppe]

broken link for me

[regal pawn]

oh

wait

[open coral]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/battle/

[solid cedar]

Do the Endwalker trailers contain any big spoilers alike to ||Thancred calling Ryne Minfilia in the ShB trailer||

[regal pawn]

A fair bit

[open coral]

I mean

[fleet steppe]

thanks

[regal pawn]

I would not recommend watching if you're not caught up

[open coral]

It assumes you've at least played through ShB

[cursive ridge]

it's a translation error

[open coral]

Because there's stuff you wouldn't know if you haven't.

[cursive ridge]

french version

[fleet steppe]

holy shit straight shot on bards is 30s now poggers

[faint flare]

Extra ice cream

[solid cedar]

No I am fully caught up until 5.55, but for example when the ShB trailer released ||Minfilia being Ryne|| was a spoiler in the trailer.

[open coral]

Yeah, they normalized pretty much everything to 30/60/90/120

[fleet steppe]

not like you wouldn't use it like right away before but uhhh

[regal pawn]

yes, there are spoilers

[solid cedar]

Does anything big like that happen in the Endwalker trailer?

[open coral]

And increased effect timers

[fleet steppe]

wait noooo why raging strikes nerf

[faint flare]

It's better

[regal pawn]

it's not a nerf

songs are longer

[faint flare]

It lines up with bursts finally

[regal pawn]

it's a 120s cycle now

[fleet steppe]

actually it's net neutral

[faint flare]

You finally don't have a shit, janky rotation that doesn't line up with raid buffs

[fleet steppe]

80s for a 10% bonus --> 120s for a 15% bonus

[faint flare]

• raid buffs

[regal pawn]

It's actually far better

[fleet steppe]

still 40s for a 5% bonus

[regal pawn]

because it lines up with buffs

[fleet steppe]

and raid buffs yeah

[heavy wadi]

Songs and BV also apply to the bard themselves, which is huge.

[open coral]

To be fair, the ||Thancred addressing Ryne as "Minfilia" wasn't really a spoiler because at the time she was "The Minfilia", and we had zero context so everyone though she was actually our Minfilia||

[green grail]

yeah random information with no context is very rarely a spoiler

[open coral]

But the "spoilers" are all on that level.

[solid cedar]

Alright that's fair

[open coral]

No context spoilers.

[fleet steppe]

holy shit that potency nerf to venomous bite

[solid cedar]

So the Endwalker trailer ain't that spoilery?

[green grail]

like heavensward trailer has events from the end of 2.55, that one has actual spoilers

[cursive ridge]

not a nerf

[open coral]

They're no-context spoilers.

[fleet steppe]

wait why are they buffing the duration

[solid cedar]

Yeah so the spoilers don't mean anything

Which is fine

[faint flare]

Don't look at potency

[twilit arch]

keep in mind potency changes are not necessarily nerfs

the dmg calculation is changing

[cursive ridge]

the only 'real' potency nerf is for DRK

[green grail]

some characters appear that which without being caught up you might expect to be.. not alive

[heavy wadi]

Note we had a stat squish and pranged weapon damage went up.

[cursive ridge]

their Flood abilities were used to be better at 2 targets

[faint flare]

45s dots match songs

[cursive ridge]

now they're only better at 3 targets

[fleet steppe]

oh i c

so they're just trying to line up the rotation

yeah bard always seemed like a pretty archaic class its nice that even if the gameplay is not updated (not saying that it needs to be) the execution is being updated

[solid cedar]

Like I said, I finished 5.55

[open coral]

Then nothing in the EW trailer would be a real spoiler for you.

[fleet steppe]

also does barrage just basically convert a single gcd hit into 3?

[regal pawn]

yes

[open coral]

Think of the trailer as "these are the things that are happening between the end of ShB and the beginning of EW"

[regal pawn]

and you use it on Refulgent/straight shot

cause best gcd

[fleet steppe]

Wait am i reading this right or does bard FINALLY buff themselves with their songs?

[cursive ridge]

seems so

[faint flare]

Yes

[fleet steppe]

wow this is actually great i'm looking forward to levelling bard now

so the potencies are changing and it's all supposed to be balanced now? why did they squish them in the first place?

[twilit arch]

because numbers were getting too big

[faint flare]

They're changing the weapon damage

[twilit arch]

and that would've made the database/servers/etc go boom

[faint flare]

One was higher than the other

[cursive ridge]

to make magical and physical damage use the same numbers

[faint flare]

Partity thing

[twilit arch]

also its to bring magic and phys in line with each other

[fleet steppe]

oh ok

so now if like

I have the exact same offensive stats

on a caster and melee for exampe

hitting a dummy with a 200 potency attack should do the same damage?

[cursive ridge]

supposed to be closer but i dunno

will probably have to ask a theorycrafter in a few days

when they figure out the new formulas

[faint flare]

Jobs still have their own different modifiers iirc

But should be closer

[regal pawn]

hey quick question

how big is 20y
like, in terms of raid

do aoes ever go above 20y around boss?

[cursive ridge]

stuff like "Maim and Mend", Enochian and Astral Fire will ruin comparisons

20y circular is gigantic

[regal pawn]

Yeah so...

This is really good, right?

[faint flare]

I think most aoe heals are 20y

[cursive ridge]

current ranged attacks for dps are 25y

[open coral]

iirc, the typical boss arena is 40y

[faint flare]

So yes

[cursive ridge]

imagine almost two max ranged attacks

back to back

[queen fern]

YES!

[cursive ridge]

that's the diameter

[regal pawn]

EArthly Star

20y

[open coral]

So 20y radius would cover the entire room.

[regal pawn]

bruh

[faint flare]

Just under max ranged

[queen fern]

It's harder for tanks to pull the boss out of it!

[regal pawn]

[fleet steppe]

holy shit 20 yalm earthly star?

[regal pawn]

yeah

[cursive ridge]

healer LB3 is now 50y radius

[regal pawn]

ES got a yuge buff

[fleet steppe]

that's an extra 150% range

[open coral]

Healer LB3 will now never be outranged

[strange coral]

Easier to keep trash in the star's range in dungeons is what comes to my mind

[regal pawn]

Like

It's physically impossible to leave ES range

actually

!action limit break

[zinc orbit]

Error!

Action not found, Kupo!

[cursive ridge]

extra 150% range but, like, pi square of that of area

[queen fern]

Unless you're in like, the Puppet's Bunker.

[regal pawn]

it's bigger than caster lb3 lmfao

[alpine shadow]

and then they increase the area size

[fleet steppe]

and you'll be able to actually hit ranged dps

with es heals

[twilit arch]

pretty sure there are a few 24man areas that can still outrange the lb3

[cursive ridge]

crystal tower has loads

[regal pawn]

Nier raids easily

with those huge boss arenas

[fleet steppe]

fuck i was gonna ask a question but i forgot

[open coral]

Oh, yeah, now I think of it. Seraph Ultima's room in Ivalice would definitely outrange 50y healer LB3

[regal pawn]

okay, i went quickly to check it

this is 15y

waht the fak

[open coral]

Yeah

[regal pawn]

ES so big

[faint flare]

And people will still miss it

[open coral]

No excuses for not standing in healer bubbles anymore.

[fleet steppe]

20 yalm CU when?

[regal pawn]

best part?

Sage doesn't even have a bubble

thier version of radiant soil is a buff

granted, you can be far enough to not get it

but still

you can move

[open coral]

[open coral]

I mean, I have people outrange Assize and M2 all the time so yeah

[cursive ridge]

SGE is basically SCH II

[fleet steppe]

so divination no longer requires seals?

[faint flare]

Nope

[cursive ridge]

no, but there's another thing that does

[faint flare]

Used for personal buff

[cursive ridge]

Astrodyne

[regal pawn]

It's quite literally just WHM but Shield™️

[hallow lintel]

Hey, anybody remembers if the launcher patch without interaction once it's available and you're already logged in? I don't remember a confirmation box, but maybe my memory is failing me

[fleet steppe]

so now there's astrodyne which uses the old mechanic of seals right

[forest sage]

iirc it doesn't patch on its own but could be remembering wrong

[cursive ridge]

what's interesting is that if you're super fucked on mana for some reason you can use astrodyne early to just regen mana

[regal pawn]

yeah

[hallow lintel]

Memory

[cursive ridge]

potency 50 duration 15, while lucid is potency 55 duration 21

so smaller than lucid

[storm sapphire]

can you still get the exp earring if you preorder now?

[cursive ridge]

250 potency mp regen vs 385

[open coral]

Yes

Until the 7th.

[fleet steppe]

yes you have until the start of EW to "pre-order", but to get EA you gotta do it before maintenance ends I think

[open coral]

No

[tacit jungle]

I'm sure this has been asked a thousand times, but do we know when the launcher will start allowing us to patch to 6.0?

[cursive ridge]

but you can use astrodyne twice because draw is 30s cd

[open coral]

Early access is available as long as you register the preorder code before the 7th.

[cursive ridge]

so it's 500 potency mp regen vs lucid 385

[open coral]

But the rewards (earring and minion) are available until March 30

[fleet steppe]

huh alright

[twilit arch]

yoshi-p mentioned on stream it'll be sometime in the afternoon for JP

[open coral]

At least 12 hours from now.

Probably longer.

[cursive ridge]

https://www.google.com/search?q=12%3A00+jst+to+gmt

[twilit arch]

so probably dinner time for the US

[open coral]

It's about 11pm in Japan right now.

[lilac mason]

nah, it's midnight

[fleet steppe]

So if redraw fucks you for signs you either have to live with losing the 5% damage buff or just undraw? since the old minor arcana no longer exists

[cursive ridge]

probably just have to use 2 seals

[faint flare]

You'll probably still play the card cause 6% on dps >> you getting 5% gain

[fleet steppe]

ohhh

[cursive ridge]

also you can redraw twice per draw

[fleet steppe]

the effect is only to you

[cursive ridge]

and it's 1s recast now

[twilit arch]

ye, astrodyne is strictly a buff for you

[fleet steppe]

I see

[cursive ridge]

so it's pretty likely you'll get all 3

[fleet steppe]

so basically ast parses could be weird because of rng?

[cursive ridge]

just have to redraw a bit

[fleet steppe]

i mean it will likely still be skill

but there's a chance it could be in the slightest affect by rng?

[cursive ridge]

well it's a card draw class, of course it's gambling

[twilit arch]

yes

probably be some variances due to astrodyne

and rng be rng

[cursive ridge]

and due to minor arcana draw

i dont think you can redraw minor arcanas

[fleet steppe]

rip all the people pushing for max parses on astro.

[cursive ridge]

so you can get like, all ladies or all lords

[fleet steppe]

right, which can just be heal after heal

[faint flare]

Ladies can still be dps gains

If they replace a planned gcd heal

[fleet steppe]

If they let you use a gcd instead

[twilit arch]

ogcd heal means a dps gcd

[halcyon grail]

So with the Endwalker early access, will we be able to get male Viera on 12/3, or do we have to wait til full release?

[fleet steppe]

I guess you ARE the regen healer now

[faint flare]

Yes you xan

[twilit arch]

can make a male viera on early access

[fleet steppe]

so some pure healing is nice

still not a huge fan of these changes ngl :/

[halcyon grail]

Cool. Haven't been happy with my character choices, so hopefully this one clicks.

[cursive ridge]

what's interesting is that the Lord is double potency of Gravity, but Lady is the same potency as Helios

[dim quarry]

when will the store reopen and do you think the ShB msq boost will be in it?

[open coral]

The store will reopen when the game reopens, and probably.

[fleet steppe]

lord is the same potency as malefic tho, that's what they're going for I think

[cursive ridge]

but aoe

[sleek needle]

Prolly no shb skip until official launch but idk

[dim quarry]

did the Stormblood one go live on the same day last expac?

[dim quarry]

got ya.

[fleet steppe]

yeah but it's focused on balancing for raids not for trash packs really

[open coral]

Not sure why you'd want to skip ShB, but whatever.

[dim quarry]

i dont want to

[open coral]

You'd have no context going into EW if you did.

[dim ridge]

i suppose for RP alts its useful

[open coral]

I guess?

[dim quarry]

but my friends joining me in Ew hinges on them being able to skip, they wont play 300-400 quests just to start EW.

[cursive ridge]

thinking this way, lady is half potency of benefic2

[dim ridge]

well then they won't have any context for EW so why does it matter if they join you? they'll get into EW and be like 'who tf are all these clowns'

[fleet steppe]

Exactly

[dim quarry]

dont act like it end there

[halcyon grail]

I did pre-order EW, does that get me early access or do I have to do extra?

Because the PS4 notice specified 12/6 or whatever

[solemn jewel]

Did u enter the code

[halcyon grail]

What code?

[solemn jewel]

Early access code

[open coral]

Preorder gets you into early access, yes. There's no code for PS

[dim quarry]

there are so many recourses ti catch up and the MSQ isnt the only draw in XIV.

[solemn jewel]

Oh ps has no code

[fleet steppe]

exactly, they are focusing on raid balance as opposed to dungeon balance

[halcyon grail]

aight, thanks

[thorn ridge]

playstiation dosn'tt get a code its automatioly apon loggion in

[plain python]

when it is possible to update the client? 😮

[verbal rune]

uhm...

[rose crescent]

Can I confirm that purchasing endwalker, I will have access to previous expansions to? So I don’t have to buy shadowbringer?

[verbal rune]

need a bit of help/questions for a macro

[dim ridge]

almost every person i play w/ has the draw of msq. there's not a soul i play with who ignores the msq wholly.

[sleek needle]

Here

[dim quarry]

good for you.

[sleek needle]

@plain python

[fleet steppe]

ask and ye shall receive

[verbal rune]

I want to make a macro in preparations for tomorrow

to assign skills to slots

[sleek needle]

Starter + endwalker is all you need

[rose crescent]

Thanks

[fleet steppe]

can u give an example? I don't think that is possible but

[verbal rune]

specifically, I'm on controller

[forest sage]

you can

[thorn ridge]

u won't get other expaiosn till the 7th though

[verbal rune]

like... 'hotbar up button gets x skill'

[forest sage]

https://xivbars.bejezus.com/

you can set that up and it'll spit macros out

you do have to make multiple macros

[rocky tiger]

Does anyone have any idea if there is going to be enough EXP in the endwalker MSQ to level 2 classes simultaneously to 90? dont want to waste EXP in the later quests by already hitting 90

[verbal rune]

oh, I already make the hotbar there

[fleet steppe]

huh... cool

[forest sage]

click Export to Macro

top right

[rose crescent]

What do you mean? I won’t have access to certain things after 7th?

[fleet steppe]

with roulettes and a bit of dungeon grinding maybe

[verbal rune]

thanks

[forest sage]

but it won't split it properly, so put it in notepad or something

[faint flare]

I got level.locked 3 time during shadowbringers, but with endwalker being longer who knows

[forest sage]

then copy 15lines into a macro, use it, then copy next 15lines etc

[faint flare]

Probably not with 2 jobs unless you grind stuff while doing story

[rocky tiger]

yeah, I got level locked in shadowbringers as well so i was assuming not perfectly

[thorn ridge]

yeah if u don't have the "other expasions" like shadowbringers or stormblood u won't get them thill officall launch when u get the full key for endwalker

[forest sage]

yeah I'd expect you get the xp for only one char during MSQ as is usual with new ones

[rocky tiger]

didnt know if anyone knew

[rose crescent]

Ah I see

[forest sage]

they boost MSQ xp later on so new players can still do 2 chars, but when it just releases you barely get enough for 1

often have to do a dungeon here or there on top

[verbal rune]

I'm still not sure about those reaper hotbar set up to...

but I guess it's ride and die until squintina makes hers

[leaden ginkgo]

i completed msq on ps4 but want to play early access on my new pc (i have standard plus endwalker early access there). As of now I don't even see shadowbringers on the squenix store anymore. Am I screwed if I want to play early access on pc?

[open coral]

No

Just buy the complete edition on PC + preorder EW

[verbal rune]

^ this

if you buy complete edition ew (is it even aviable?) you won't be able to access the game until the 7th

[leaden ginkgo]

I can't find complete edition either

[open coral]

You're NA?

[leaden ginkgo]

yeah

[sleek needle]

!faq buy

[open coral]

Oh, I just looked

[zinc orbit]

How to buy the game

Click here for NA

Click here for EU

Click here for JP

Image by /u/Alimantado

[strange coral]

• The FINAL FANTASY XIV Online Complete Edition is unavailable for purchase until its release on December 7, 2021.

[sleek needle]

They updated it but unavailable

[leaden ginkgo]

do they give a discount for complete edition ($20 off) if you have standard?

[open coral]

So the answer is therefore "no, you won't be able to early access on PC"

[forest sage]

no

[open coral]

No

[queen fern]

Assuming that you've purchased the Standard Edition AND pre-ordered Endwalker, yes.

[open coral]

You can't get the Complete if you already have the Standard registered.

[leaden ginkgo]

great job squenix

[open coral]

You just have to buy the most recent expansion.

So yeah, you get a "discount"

[strange coral]

If you have standard already then you only need EW. There's no reason to get complete edition.

[open coral]

Because the expansion alone is cheaper than the complete edition.

[thorn ridge]

yeah its fucked up did u prehaps to preorder on ps also? i did for both first ps then pc cause got a new pc recently

[leaden ginkgo]

i've already put in a ticket about this, hopefully I can get them to help me with this unless I can find a code

[rose crescent]

I don’t have any bought yet. So I should get standard + ew?

[leaden ginkgo]

i did preorder on ps4, but after playing a little bit on pc i would highly prefer playing EW there

[verbal rune]

also one thing I'll say

[open coral]

If you want to do early access, you're going to have to do it on PS

[strange coral]

If you want everything, then yes. Either that or wait for the new complete edition to go up for sale in a few days.

[verbal rune]

endwalkers needs expac up to shb to work

[thorn ridge]

i recommd playing on ps till the 7th then unforinit but looks to be only option

[thorn ridge]

i also prefer pc started their on ARR

[leaden ginkgo]

what if I got a shadowbringers game code from like best buy?

[open coral]

Then on the 7th you can buy what you need for the PC version, and switch over.

Can you?

[strange coral]

Depends on how on-top-of-things best buy is

[leaden ginkgo]

and thank you squenix for making cross platform play freaking awesome...

[open coral]

You'd be able to access up through ShB then (assuming you also have the Standard Edition already registered to PC)

[thorn ridge]

yeah not sure how "good' their onlie strore is i know walmart sucks

[strange coral]

I (ignorantly) bought Stormblood off Amazon when ShB was already out. Other retailers might still have ShB listed for purchase

[leaden ginkgo]

maybe I should beg my FC for an unused shb code 🤡

[open coral]

You mentioned that you've played on PC already?

Did you only get the Standard Edition, or were you playing in ShB content?

[cursive ridge]

does Everlasting Flight calculate effective radius from caster or the carbuncle?

[leaden ginkgo]

yes, I wasn't able to go to any shb zones

[thorn ridge]

amazon has the compelete, dosn't have endwalkers, up

[rose crescent]

So complete editions are just a price bundle of the main game + all the contents ya. Buying the starter + ew is basically the same thing on 7th

[sleek needle]

Yes

[rose crescent]

Cool thanks