some tank/melee accessories are basically interchangeable
#questions-and-help
cursive ridge
glossy flare
but tank accessories of equal ilvl will have the same amount of str
but more worthwhile substats
strong harness
are we allowed to ask for revives in this server? and if so which channel?
dim widget
pretty sure ppl would be happy to for the achievement
dapper oyster
What will a revive do?
glossy flare
there isn't a dedicated channel, your best bet is probably #general-discussion
but honestly, just reviving yourself is faster in 99% of cases
strong harness
as in returning to your home aetheryte?
glossy flare
yes
dapper oyster
What we lost from reviveng ourselves?
solemn jewel
Or just yell in chat
dapper oyster
Didnt know that ._.
glossy flare
you lose nothing worthwhile
solemn jewel
You don't lose exp
cursive ridge
you only lose exp dying in eureka
strong harness
ah okay
dapper oyster
I only know that you lost tons of mettle in zadnor but other than that... Not sure
cursive ridge
in regular gameplay you don't, i'm pretty sure
obsidian patio
You only lose a bit more gear durability, if anything
cursive ridge
and you already took a durability hit
solemn jewel
You just have to get back there
strong harness
I'll just self revive then, thanks bois
dapper oyster
Is there any class that someone should avoid when that person has high ping?
dim widget
how do you enter the diadem? also can you gather normal stuff in there (so i dont have to tp everywhere to gather everything once)
dapper oyster
Bard is considered as high apm? Aw man i was going to try it after i level my monk
cobalt badge
do ninja jutsu symbols need to be input after their "cooldown" spinner finishes? or can you just mash/press immediately
glossy flare
they each have a short gcd
hasty musk
how do you enter the diadem? also can you gather normal stuff in there (so i don...
Go to the firmament in Ishgard and talk to the person at the desk on the left side of the plaza
glossy flare
Bard is considered as high apm? Aw man i was going to try it after i level my mo...
bard has the third highest apm on average, right after ninja and machinist
lots of procs and on the fly weaving
cobalt badge
oic
austere bobcat
worse is Ninja and Machinist are more structured. With bard just about everything is reactive, imo it's the busiest job
patent citrus
yeah, even SAM is busier than NIN
glossy flare
nin is just weird in that the high apm comes from a 15s window
patent citrus
NIN isn't busy at all, It's just that their ninjutsu has low cd
glossy flare
every 60s
zinc orbitBOT
barren granite
wow big tewitch hack ... if you have account change PW
cursive ridge
so how come SMN's resource is showing both on the job gauge and as a self-buff? all the other jobs i've unlocked so far do not duplicate their job gauges as buffs
glossy flare
¯_(ツ)_/¯
midnight tinsel
paladin does too = D
dapper oyster
bard has the third highest apm on average, right after ninja and machinist
How high is high ping? Is 170ish counted as high ping?
obsidian patio
when can you typically start getting tomestones on xpac release?
same week as savage raid launch, AKA 1 month after expansion launch
the tomestones that don't have a weekly cap can be earned on day 1
glossy flare
How high is high ping? Is 170ish counted as high ping?
I'd say that is high-ish yeah
just at the threshold of where you may start to struggle with some things
supple harbor
Bought EW and entered the preorder code in the mog, when will the earring come in?
And the early access :o
supple harbor
tyty
barren granite
QQ for WHMG. is there a good use case for rescue ?
obsidian patio
if someone is about to die from standing in bad stuff, like aoes
cursive ridge
or when everybody needs to move to a spot and one person is straggling behind, like that boss in the crystal tower
barren granite
and if you use it does it auto port them or do they have a pop up to click yes ?
obsidian patio
forced
barren granite
nice
obsidian patio
solemn jewel
They get yanked
cursive ridge
would be a pretty bad ability otherwise
barren granite
yessss
solemn jewel
Most ppl don't enjoy getting rescued tho
barren granite
im liking it already !!
solemn jewel
Don't use it if u can avoid it.
barren granite
ya well tough on them
obsidian patio
Look at them, already getting into the spirit of healing. /s
cursive ridge
as a healer you are a god and decide who lives and who dies
solemn jewel
Seriously its disorienting and u can easily kill someone with it
barren granite
!!
obsidian patio
But yes, try to reserve using it for actual emergencies.
barren granite
hm ok
dim widget
can i complete my gathering log in diadem or are normal stuff not there
obsidian patio
diadem items don't count
barren granite
still pretty cool ability heh
dim widget
obsidian patio
If you're going for the Resplendent tools, only the items in the folklore books and leveling nodes count
cursive ridge
if you mean collecting one of each item for a checkmark, then diadem items are an entirely separate thing
barren granite
do they have to be in my group ?
obsidian patio
yes
obsidian patio
must be in your party to use on them
barren granite
oh only during encounter.
cursive ridge
also i suggest making a macro to mouseover rescue so you can execute it faster
solemn jewel
Seriously just don't use it unless u know a fight and u know an attack will kill
barren granite
k
dim widget
obsidian patio
you basically need to gather everything that counts towards it
minus like 4-5 things
cursive ridge
might be a good idea to do that to prepare for an endwalker version of that achievement reward? dunno when they add these
dim widget
obsidian patio
around the end of the expansion, generally
fathom grove
how do I unlock custom deliveries?
cursive ridge
Disciple of the Hand or Land level 60+
Idyllshire (X:5.8 Y:7.0)
NPC: Geimlona
Players must first complete the quest Go West, Craftsman.```Go West Craftsman starts in Mor Dhona from the lady near the scrip vendors
fathom grove
says the start* Go West Craftsman is in Mor Dhona, but I can't find it on my map, though this may just be my own stupidity. . .
cursive ridge
you might have already completed it or picked it up?
did you unlock collectables?
!quest Inscrutable Tastes
zinc orbitBOT
!quest Inscrutable Tastes
fathom grove
Ah, there you go, just assumed that I had done that already but a quest complete search says otherwise, cheers Caspian
snow falcon
Whats the best way to get crystal sand? I burned through company seals and my tomestones and need more
obsidian patio
if you're willing to spend gil on the marketboard or have a combat job at 70 or above, farm the extreme ARR primals for their material drops
Assuming if you don't have a crafting/gathering class at 60+ to get yellow scrips
warped nest
Slightly late, but still worth mentioning, Imo, if you plan to make more Anima, get your crafter/Gatherer to lvl 60+
gloomy mortar
Is there any reason to do all the side quests in a certain area?
cobalt badge
""OCD"" that's about it
gloomy mortar
👍🍡
snow falcon
Ah ok ty
leaden ginkgo
can you play and invite other players in your group on different servers? like when my friend is on phoenix and im on shiva ( both on light datacenter ) can I invite her to my party and do dungeons and stuff ?
regal pawn
yeah
solemn jewel
Yea
last mural
Need some help learning how to use macros
So i'm trying to make a simple BLU macro:
But i keep getting this error:
What am i doing wrong?
obsidian patio
Do you have them set as active actions? I think that can trip the error.
Also, you need to add in <wait.3> for the sticky tongue line to make the macro actually work
last mural
What do u mean set as active actions?
cursive ridge
you're using the wrong kind of ""
replace them with " from the english layout keyboard
last mural
...
obsidian patio
What do u mean set as active actions?
You have to set which Blue Mage spells you can actively use or not from the blue mage spell book menu
last mural
wtf?
cursive ridge
some languages have their own symbols
warped nest
So it doesn't work if the spell only exist in your spellbook
last mural
replace them with " from the english layout keyboard
Okay, it works now
cursive ridge
it's a real ass of an issue in programming
last mural
How am i supposed to know i'm supposed to use " instead of "
cursive ridge
if you look close at an error
you'll notice it shows " twice in the error
meaning it tries to read one of them as a spell name
obsidian patio
You can also use the auto-translate things for action names
those work too
Also, the <t> in the sticky tongue line is redundant, since you need to be targeting something in the first place for the spell to work
using <t> is more for things that you'd be able to use on yourself by default without a target active
like single-target healing spells or some buffs you can give to other party members
last mural
Thanks alot. It works now 😄
cursive ridge
make sure you also use your swiftcast for 1k needles, very handy
devout lichen
does your magia go away at every new zone? or you keep it
last mural
I mean i can't account for when Swiftcast comes off cd
cursive ridge
just keep in mind that it's an option
last mural
i'm only using macro to check other stuff, and if they're still alive, i'll swiftcast 1000 needles to finish it off
regal pawn
does your magia go away at every new zone? or you keep it
you keep it
last mural
the whole macro should give me like 12s of downtime each cast
to check stuff like discord haha
obsidian patio
Thanks alot. It works now 😄
/micon "1000 Needles" blueaction
/blueaction "Sticky Tongue" <wait.3>
/blueaction "1000 Needles" <wait.7>
/blueaction "Acorn Bomb" <wait.3>
/blueaction "1000 Needles"
for a more streamlined version
cursive ridge
also be aware that if you're attacking targets higher level than you they can interrupt your cast with anyu attack
last mural
I hate how my spells has a chance of missing...
i'm still lv 38, so i'm using Mighty Guard
My spells can't get interupted
cursive ridge
yeah that solves it
last mural
Does using Direct Hit materia help?
cursive ridge
no
last mural
the chance of missing really annoys me so much
cursive ridge
there is no accuracy stat in the game anymore
last mural
So direct hit is useless?
cursive ridge
there are debuffs but no gear with the stat
obsidian patio
for 1000 needles, yes
cursive ridge
direct hit is a mini-crit
glossy flare
a direct hit just deals more dmg
obsidian patio
nothing buffs 1000 needles at all
cursive ridge
only if you attack targets suuuuper higher than you
glossy flare
yeah, it should be a non issue
last mural
so all BLU guides that says to fight mobs like 5-7 levels higher is basically outdated?
cursive ridge
no
last mural
because it's so inefficient if all i do is keep missing occasionally
obsidian patio
I generally stuck to equal level or 2-3 above
glossy flare
most blu guides assume you have a high level buddy helping you out
cursive ridge
i was doing 5-6 above and basically barely ever missed
glossy flare
you tag them, they kill them
last mural
Nah, i'm reading solo guides
cursive ridge
i'm doing solo too at the moment
last mural
Don't have a buddy to power level
but it sounds like a pain for the buddy, since they're just killing mobs for u to get xp while they hardly benefit at all
cursive ridge
leveling solo is of course slower but it's still very very quick
compared to some other games
having to kill like 20 mobs to get a level is super easy, barely an inconvenience
glossy flare
but it sounds like a pain for the buddy, since they're just killing mobs for u t...
well yes, they have absolutely no benefit
it's about helping someone ¯_(ツ)_/¯
last mural
Yeah, so i'll stick to solo then
slate cipher
I think am at the stage where soloing is not convenient
cursive ridge
even compared to other jobs in this game it's much faster
last mural
What stage would that be? lv 60-70?
glossy flare
I think am at the stage where soloing is not convenient
just to be clear, the conversation is about blu
not the game in general
you can do everything solo, most of it with almost no downsides
cursive ridge
i'm currently in HW content for BLU, so i usually gather 3 mobs with sticky tongue, do Aqua Breath+Northerlies and damage them down. 20sec deep freeze is OP
last mural
dumb question, but is it possible to use 'if' statements in macro?
slate cipher
I know what u meant dw 😄
glossy flare
dumb question, but is it possible to use 'if' statements in macro?
no
they are just a sequence of commands
last mural
Ah... so only simple lines...
glossy flare
no logic
last mural
dang
leaden ginkgo
I’m onto HW post game quests, would it be worth it to buy the skip missions bundle now? So I can quickly move onto SB
glossy flare
Only if you absolutely do not care about the story
last mural
What player icon is this?
leaden ginkgo
It’s not giving much exp so I don’t
obsidian patio
Expansion patch quests are much shorter in comparison to ARR patch quests
glossy flare
In which case just buy the skip to the start of shb
glossy flare
What player icon is this?
Roleplaying flair
leaden ginkgo
Do I receive all the rewards for the missions ?
last mural
Oh...
obsidian patio
No
Story skips forfeits all quest rewards that aren't exclusively from the story
which means you won't get the free gear
glossy flare
Again, if you dont care about the story just buy the skip for everything
formal condor
what's trig? ultimate PF wrote "have trig"
zinc orbitBOT
green grail
triggernometry, an ACT plugin
flat basalt
How do I get to the ||doma base where reconstruction is - I think it's called Doma Enclave|| in the map?
I know there is a ferry to get there, but it's not clickable.
warm snow
triggernometry, an ACT plugin
That's one of those ones that does callous for you isn't it
warm snow
How do I get to the ||doma base where reconstruction is - I think it's called Do...
Kugane teleport list
Location is kinda fucky map wise so I just use that
warm snow
Story skips forfeits all quest rewards that aren't exclusively from the story
And in the case of arr skips, no free fantasia
green grail
That's one of those ones that does callous for you isn't it
depends on the trigger, trig itself is just what allows for more advanced triggers than vanilla ACT, which also has simpler trigger support in itself
flat basalt
Kugane teleport list
I would like to see the map without teleporting there, but you say there is no way?
How often does the donation basket reset? Is it once a week (tuesday) or is that changed now that it's an older expansion?
fiery stirrup
Open the map, filter to yanxia and it should be there
glossy flare
How often does the donation basket reset? Is it once a week (tuesday) or is that...
with the usual weekly timer
flat basalt
Open the map, filter to yanxia and it should be there
I did, it's not there. You go to Yanxia, and then use the drop down menu?
I will check again
fiery stirrup
Yeah. Should be under that
flat basalt
with the usual weekly timer
Thanks, heh, it's gonna take a few weeks then to complete it ^^
I mean I can teleport there, so I am attuned.
warm snow
Misread
flat basalt
I don't see ||Doman enclave|| in the list, is it called something else? Do you have it?
fiery stirrup
Now I have to actually check. 🤔
glossy flare
you can't select it in that list unless you are there
it does appear in the teleport list however
fiery stirrup
Oh that’s a weird thing for them to do
flat basalt
I tend to use the map to teleport most of the time
I find it easier than remembering the names.
fiery stirrup
Huh, now that i look at it, it’s the same for ishgard’s place too
warm snow
Firmament doesn't have an aetheryte tho
cursive ridge
savage raids never have any extra story, do they?
pulsar escarp
they're non canonical but some have some twists on them
e.g eden savage is you looking into a rock and getting ptsd, omega savage are simulations
agile laurel
almost all savage raids are in the context of 'what if' tales, literally
none of them have story of note
or at least anything that will be made reference to
pulsar escarp
^
agile laurel
they're all fever dreams, in a way
warm snow
savage raids never have any extra story, do they?
Pretty much all high end content is a fan fiction style retelling by the wandering minstrel or other npcs.
Except ifrit, titan, garuda, ravana and bismark ex
I think
obsidian patio
All ARR extremes but Ultima*
obsidian patio
they're not the minstrel, if you mean that.
warm snow
Neither are the weapon EXs. Imma check my log
obsidian patio
but yeah, they're not weird memory/song/simulation shenanigans
heavy wadi
the arr ex primals save for ultima are all resummonings, iirc
agile laurel
||thordan, nidhogg, ultima, every Stormblood EX bar Rathalos and every ShB EX|| are non-canon
everything else is
obsidian patio
warring triad extremes are non-canon
you go to a node and they basically set up a training simulation
agile laurel
oh? i'm misremembering then
gritty oracle
I don't think any ex but the arr primals are canon
warm snow
That's when they thankfully stopped making the actual ex clear a quest objective
warm snow
I don't think any ex but the arr primals are canon
Ravana and bismark
gritty oracle
ah right
paper raptor
Doing a fond memory, tell me a story and spare parts.
Should i do instances instead of zadnor?
warm snow
Zadnor for the ones that drop from skirmishes
And do any and all CEs that spawn while you do that
And then do raids for the other ones
rustic sandal
Looking for Gemkeep gown and how to obtain one. Wiki doesn't tell me where i can get one :/
paper raptor
I'm a bit confused about the different items. Each quest requires 2 items.
I'd assume one drops easily from regular stuff and other only from CE's and instances.
I have 40 bleak memories and 6 lurid memories, which makes sense.
But i only have 10 spring and 2 beyond the rift books. And none of the two other two items.
warm snow
Looking for Gemkeep gown and how to obtain one. Wiki doesn't tell me where i can...
You can't get it any more. Only the augmented version, like tome gear
rustic sandal
You can't get it any more. Only the augmented version, like tome gear
so... in order to get the augmented version... i need to have the normal one already? or did i miss smt? 🤔
warm snow
They stop selling the unaugmented version on its own. You just buy the augmented one now
Huh weird not on normal vendor
rustic sandal
Ohhh i see, to rowena i go
rustic sandal
<@248172246810624000> splendours vendor in idyllshire
Ty!!
cobalt vine
Recently got to HW and unlocked DRK, what’s the best and fastest way to level so I can play HW content asap as DRK
warm snow
Dungeons
cobalt vine
Aight bet good lookin out
spare rover
I just got to Idyllshire, so I buy my level 60 gear with the tomes there and also start farming yellow scripts to buy gear for my level 60 DoL right?
river oasis
as a tank is it fine to run back and forth if it look like my healer cant keep up with the huge pulls?
hard aurora
as a tank, just let your healer know your plan first off if they dont say anything. please clarify on running back and forth? there shouldn't be a need to do that if you're doing smaller pulls so that they can keep up
pure flume
hey do you folks recomends any add ons for ff14
hard aurora
do you plan on doing anything other than casual content? @pure flume
hard aurora
act is p good. theres also graphical mods if that suits your fancy
pure flume
but i want to get into raids later on etc
hard aurora
the golden rule
agile laurel
not really tbh
hard aurora
is never to speak or talk about them in game
pure flume
is **never** to speak or talk about them in game
how come
hard aurora
its against tos
paper raptor
If charge bar of the enemy is glowing/flashing, does it mean it can be interrupted?
agile laurel
ToS
hard aurora
all mods
agile laurel
they're banned
agile laurel
If charge bar of the enemy is glowing/flashing, does it mean it can be interrupt...
yes
pure flume
i'm at risk of being banned ?
hard aurora
though they've no way to check if you have mods, so just dont speak about them
if you're yapping away
yes
if you're not, no
agile laurel
No, not if you don't say anything
pure flume
hmm ok
regal pawn
Fight club rules
agile laurel
They have no way of scraping game files to check
pure flume
aight
agile laurel
Plus they kind of... know that anyone doing high-end content will be using a parsing addon
regal pawn
They watched world first racers that used act 
pure flume
are there different installers or something for add ons
if so recommend any ?
also what's a parsing addon ? @agile laurel
agile laurel
anything to display damage done by party members
literally, parsing the combat log to a readable format
if you've come from WoW or suchlike, it should be generally commonplace
pure flume
is there like an instal manager for mods or do all mods need to be manually placed in folders etc
pure flume
are there different dps tracker mods ? if so any recomendations ?
regal pawn
!faq act
zinc orbitBOT
regal pawn
ACT
is pretty much bog standard
It's basically the framework
you can then get an overlay in game
Overlays you can pretty much customize however you want
You want danny devito exploding in the background of the tracker and the font to be comic sans? sure (totally not my current one lol)
zinc orbitBOT
regal pawn
It has auto login so you don't have to put in your password every time
And it doesn't run on internet explorer lol
potent shoal
As a legal FF14 player, I do not know what mods are
regal pawn
wait the original launcher runs on IE ?
yeah lmfao
pure flume
what about materia UI ?
regal pawn
I use that
Very pog
pure flume
and G shade ?
regal pawn
also pog
Once you got quicklauncher
You can go wild with plugins like Market Board which is basically an in-game https://Universalis.app
river oasis
as a tank, just let your healer know your plan first off if they dont say anythi...
Agiht
pure flume
any more pog mods ? @regal pawn
pure flume
aight
fringe reef
I can't enter the Palace of The Dead floor 51, it says duty not yet unlocked. What do I have to do
pure flume
so any more add ons ? @regal pawn also should i enable this ?
vernal urchin
I can't enter the Palace of The Dead floor 51, it says duty not yet unlocked. Wh...
Did you clear floor 50?
fringe reef
yeah
regal pawn
did you do the little side quest?
fringe reef
idk what quest i didnt leave the palace yet
regal pawn
after clearing 50, go out
vernal urchin
I believe there's a quest you have to do before you can go to floor 51 yeah
regal pawn
!quest What Lies Beneath
fringe reef
hm, ok
zinc orbitBOT
!quest What Lies Beneath
regal pawn
this'll become available
fringe reef
allright, thanks
regal pawn
so any more add ons ? <@!465568467463045150> also should i enable this ?
Personal choices:
- QoLBar - Lets you make custom bars where you can bind commands and you can make a radial menu
GatherBuddy if you want to get into crafting
It'll list upcoming timed gathering nodes
leaden ginkgo
Is there a guide to levelling DoH/L
regal pawn
The Great Separator
- Adds commas. That's it.
And then just SImple Tweaks cause it has a bunch of tweaks
And Party List Layout if you want to edit your party list
tropic flame
am i able to like do a Place macro so that the fairy is placed onto the person i target?
regal pawn
probably?
tropic flame
how 
regal pawn
/pac Place <t>?
silk stone
So I'm not that familiar with MMO terms, but what's the difference between Need and Greed when it comes to loot?
faint flare
Need beats greed
twilit arch
need is higher priority than greed, and you can only roll need on items you can use as that class/job
faint flare
Can only need if it's for your job
twilit arch
or if its an item that everyone can use (i.e minions,etc)
stable tangle
is there a way to only show emotes in chat when im targeting someone?
(as opposed to always or never)
leaden ginkgo
I just got the amateur table for goldsmith how do I equip it ?
boreal storm
Goldsmiths use grinding wheels for their off hand, so I don’t know what you’re talking about
silk stone
Stupid question but can a Viera wear a Dragoon style helmet, like does their ears stick out? (Asking cause I'm thinking of switching to male Viera once Endwalker comes out)
regal pawn
no
at least
we don't know fully
They cannot wear current helmets, and we don't know for sure if they will not be able to wear any headgear in Endwalker
We did see a Hrothgar with a hat so there's some hope
sacred oracle
is it bugged? i dont have any blue quest left but cant find the last aether current quest
regal pawn
is it bugged? i dont have any blue quest left but cant find the last aether curr...
it's in the crystarium
sacred oracle
it's in the crystarium
thx
severe sonnet
do i want skill speed materia on samurai?
potent shoal
when do beast tribe quests reset?
lost sinew
how long does DR take…? should i do it solo the first time or…
leaden ginkgo
!faq altjobleveling
zinc orbitBOT
heavy wadi
how long does DR take…? should i do it solo the first time or…
delubrum reginae?
if so it can take like
anywhere from 30mins to an hour
leaden ginkgo
!faq DoHleveling
zinc orbitBOT
!faq DoHleveling
leaden ginkgo
👍
boreal storm
Leves, firmament and GC turn in
lost sinew
gotcha. i think i misunderstood the whole “you can enter solo” thing.
it’s a 24 man raid you can’t enter from the duty finder, right? and i get auto matched to other people doing it?
lost sinew
yeah i plan to
lost sinew
not that i can remember x bosses worth of y mechanics each for a 24 man
maybe if the whole group stops between fights for me to watch the next part of the video 😂
minor fulcrum
Videos aren't really worth watching
Until you learn to move with the mechanics and can get a feel for it, you'll still die a lot
lost sinew
yeah but videos have often given me insight into “wth is this new thing” mechanics and i’ve successfully not died tragically over and over to them
the more complicated mechanics are what get me
like the multiple attacks in order on the last boss of cll
spiral mango
why do i see stormblood ending credits when ive completed o nly 39 quests of post stormblood ?
minor fulcrum
The hardest mechanics in Delubrum are the 4 swords on first boss, the temperatures on 4th and just knowing which attack is coming on the chess pieces
boreal storm
Because post-SB is like 40 quests
lost sinew
iirc quests between expansions are split into ending the prior expansion story and kicking off the new expansion story
minor fulcrum
Post-stb is the only good part of stb
Nope, only market board. You can buy the materials to craft them from vendors
Requires lvl 25 quest in mor dhona for a DoH
boreal storm
GC seals
knotty elk
^ if you have a surplus of seals you can sell glamour prisms on the market too
clever bane
What Materia should I focus for Ast
leaden ginkgo
So if I own the game on pc and console and buy the expansion for PC, will I get the exp ring for both versions or just the PC
I really don’t need the expansion, I just want the ring lol
spiral mango
Post-stb is the only good part of stb
kinda yeah, lmao
magic compass
I'm at lvl 50 but only lvl 30 MSQ. It looks like I can get a set of armor from my class quest but is it possible to get a good weapon before finishing ARR?
leaden ginkgo
I'm at lvl 50 but only lvl 30 MSQ. It looks like I can get a set of armor from ...
Poetics can get you the 2nd best weapon for ARR
blazing ermine
Can I ask a blu question here? Any pro blu players?
leaden ginkgo
1st best is relic, but that shit takes ages
Only if you answer my question huehuehuehue
cursive ridge
can somebody explain why people are mad about Freecure?
spiral mango
yaaaaaaash im oficially into shadowbringers
boreal storm
Cure 1 bad, freecure trap
modest igloo
can somebody explain why people are mad about Freecure?
baits new players into becoming cure 1 bots
cursive ridge
why though
modest igloo
the bigger overall issue is how limited early WHM's kit is and making new players think that a healer only heals
twilit arch
because cure 1 is generally not as mana/healing efficient
and cure 2 once you get it
and you have a lot of ways to keep your mana quite healthy
spiral mango
Because post-SB is like 40 quests
and same for ShB ? 40 + 40 ?
twilit arch
so after a point cure 1 is basically not worth using
leaden ginkgo
What is freecure?
modest igloo
!trait freecure
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boreal storm
5.0 is more than that
leaden ginkgo
Bruh, that’s a buff lmao
magic compass
Poetics can get you the 2nd best weapon for ARR
Thanks! And I can get those before finishing lvl 50 MSQ?
boreal storm
No
leaden ginkgo
Yes
twilit arch
freecure is bad
severe brook
can i talk about loft glitch here?
twilit arch
the amount of healing cure 1 does vs cure 2 doesn't justify using cure 1, especially when whm isn't really starved for mana
the higher you go, the worse cure 1 becomes
leaden ginkgo
Can’t you use cure i for preventative measures? Like if you sense a tank buster coming or if someone can’t dodge an AOE?
boreal storm
Cure 2 better
twilit arch
why would you use cure 1 when cure 2 heals more
modest igloo
cure 1 and 2 both cost a GCD
leaden ginkgo
why would you use cure 1 when cure 2 heals more
Because said tankbuster/AOE might take the guy out
modest igloo
when tankbusters start hurting you get more shit off the gcd
boreal storm
They won’t die if they get healed more
cursive ridge
is freecure is so bad why is it still in the game
boreal storm
Because it is
twilit arch
because the devs decided they dont want to remove it, and there have been plenty of skills that are not very good that have remained in the game.
leaden ginkgo
You guys aren’t picking up on what I’m referring to
twilit arch
cure 1's cast time doesn't justify using it over cure 2
cure 2 is more likely to save th person than cure 1
its not worth using
boreal storm
450 < 700, simple math
deft quiver
how much stuff comes out with new expansion? Is there going to be savage raids/extreme trials out already at launch?
leaden ginkgo
do weapons scale with character height? or only race
i know lalafell weapons are tiny but will taller lalafell have a bigger wep, etc?
If the person is knocked to 0HP from a tankbuster, you have to burn a rez then a cure ii
Whereas if you use cure i assuming that you’re wary of said attack taking them to 0HP, you save your rez and then cast cure ii
twilit arch
a Cure 1 is likely not going to save the person
because again, cure 1 doesn't heal that much
leaden ginkgo
Hmm
twilit arch
if you have the mana for a cure 2 you should be using cure 2
modest igloo
If the person is knocked to 0HP from a tankbuster, you have to burn a rez then a...
!action divine benison
cursive ridge
If the person is knocked to 0HP from a tankbuster, you have to burn a rez then a...
if a tank died in hard content, you're pretty fucked already anyway
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modest igloo
thats what you use for TB's
leaden ginkgo
Fair enough lmao
errant thorn
do weapons scale with character height? or only race
i know lalafell weapons are...
i think they scale to height only from looking at other peoples characters. i dont a ctually know
twilit arch
how much stuff comes out with new expansion? Is there going to be savage raids/e...
there will be extreme trials at release. the 8 man raid will be released 2/4 weeks after launcher. 2 weeks for normal mode, 4 weeks for savage
cursive ridge
chain rezzing is only really a valid strategy for normal difficulty content
deft quiver
there will be extreme trials at release. the 8 man raid will be released 2/4 wee...
damn ok
gonna take some time to do msq anyways
modest igloo
Fair enough lmao
keep in mind that most WHM's dont even really use cure 2 at high level
leaden ginkgo
we arguing about freecure?
Not anymore lol
modest igloo
you're welcome to take my spot but i think we got that point now
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sleek needle
Ast also has it iirc 
regal pawn
!trait enhanced benefic
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deft quiver
ez
sleek needle
Yeee
modest igloo
but we wouldnt even have this issue if, idk, WHM HAD FUCKING ANY OGCD BEFORE LVL 50
aight im out
cursive ridge
from reading the description, i kinda expected freecure to be a thing that is useful. it sounds useful.
deft quiver
tbf i dont even think i have used benefic 1 in a while lol
regal pawn
from reading the description, i kinda expected freecure to be a thing that is us...
it sounds useful
but then you realize what's the point
deft quiver
so many other quick/big heals too
regal pawn
15% chance to make next bene 2 a crit
bro
just cast the bene 2
you have a higher chance to crit than to proc the trait probably
leaden ginkgo
What do you think of scholar before lvl 50
deft quiver
but my whm is only like lvl 40
regal pawn
you're never gonna use it
deft quiver
and i hate it lol
deft quiver
cure 1 is weak
leaden ginkgo
That’s the healer I’m maininf
cursive ridge
apparently if you're getting freecures you already fucked up
regal pawn
use lucid on cooldown
twilit arch
you have several tools, especially at higher levels, to deal with mana
regal pawn
!action lucid dreaming
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regal pawn
fuck no it's not
cursive ridge
i'm currently maining SMN's Physick as my main healer
deft quiver
was thinking about that other ability
regal pawn
and keep that fucker on cd
deft quiver
mind somehting
deft quiver
once you hit 8k mana
ye i always have lucid up
regal pawn
that doesn't make mana better
cursive ridge
does SCH ever use Physick?
regal pawn
it makes you cast faster
regal pawn
does SCH ever use Physick?
If adlo shield is up
deft quiver
20% off no?
regal pawn
and you need a gcd heal
sleek needle
Below lv 30
deft quiver
or just cast and recast time
regal pawn
20% off no?
20% faster cast/recast
deft quiver
ah
regal pawn
that's it
deft quiver
wack
ye i barely know how to play whm lol
and only lvl 40 so no big stuff unlocked yet
cursive ridge
If adlo shield is up
adlo shield is the shield that gets applied from many of the heal abilities right
modest igloo
its a dps buff but worded funny
regal pawn
adlo shield is the shield that gets applied from many of the heal abilities righ...
!action adloquium
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leaden ginkgo
adlo shield is the shield that gets applied from many of the heal abilities righ...
Ik works with succor
cursive ridge
1000 MP costs scare me
regal pawn
!action Cure II
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leaden ginkgo
Normally you’ll fluctuate between adlo+lustrate/physick based upon charges and person you’re healimg
And then you get excog and…
deft quiver
same potency less mana for ast
see
just play ast
and you get to play poker on the go
leaden ginkgo
Idk if you ever use lustrate after unlocking excog
leaden ginkgo
Yeah, scholar and their lack of upgrading skills lmao
cursive ridge
what are some other 'trap' spells on other jobs?
leaden ginkgo
what are some other 'trap' spells on other jobs?
Cleansing aura
regal pawn
Piercing Talon 
cursive ridge
i kinda always assumed that if a spell is there you should use it
regal pawn
oh oh oh
leaden ginkgo
Oh hey, you get the suckier version of BLM’s sleep spell, which is hardly cast at all lmao
regal pawn
Blizzard 2 and BLizzard 1
regal pawn
Scathe too
twilit arch
Foot graze/leg graze
cursive ridge
scathe is mildly useful if you still need to run
leaden ginkgo
Blizzard 2 and BLizzard 1 <:cahd:805285677273055243>
I use blizzard one if 3 is OCD and I need to top of my mana
long folio
Hi anyone have that excel sheet for relic weapons?
leaden ginkgo
But freeze outclasses blizzard 2
deft quiver
scathe is mildly useful if you still need to run
meh
twilit arch
You should really not be using scathe
long folio
For anima weapon someone shared earlier
regal pawn
blizzard 3 is a gcd
twilit arch
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bsHZM-0sSdaajAwILUPbUSOsMzDiCP7o4DGb3-gQTog/edit#gid=0 @long folio
leaden ginkgo
blizzard 3 is a gcd
Wrong term, I meant on cooldown
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regal pawn
it's a GCD
long folio
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bsHZM-0sSdaajAwILUPbUSOsMzDiCP7o4DGb3-gQTog/edit#gid=0 @long folio
@twilit arch tyvm 😋
leaden ginkgo
Physick on summoner is a trap
regal pawn
!faq blmleveling
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cursive ridge
Cleansing aura
kupo doesn't know this one
regal pawn
leaden ginkgo
kupo doesn't know this one
It’s a lvl 15 whm skill, I may have got the name wrong
regal pawn
!action fluid aura
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leaden ginkgo
That@s it
regal pawn
this?
deft quiver
whats that
leaden ginkgo
Fluid Aura
regal pawn
it binds
deft quiver
regal pawn
lol
twilit arch
not really
cursive ridge
Piercing Talon <:KEKW:751122217890349116>
the only bad thing about that spell is that it stops combos, which is getting fixed in endwalker. having a ranged attack to pull stuff or activate it is really handy sometimes
deft quiver
are they making leveling easier/more fun?
i got drk to 60 and im literally dreading trying to get it to 71 for bozja
leaden ginkgo
I don’t think scathe is bad in concept, it’s just bad on a class that doesn’t want to move and has traits that lead to insta casts
deft quiver
sooooooooooooo slow
deft quiver
I don’t think scathe is bad in concept, it’s just bad on a class that doesn’t wa...
especially at 80
theres a lot of stuff that makes it easy to move
and theres no need for lower level ability like that
leaden ginkgo
Like BLM can insta cast thunder, fire, and can teleport to allies and back to their laylines
deft quiver
especially at 80
or whenever xeno, triple cast, and procs are available
twilit arch
This is becoming more discussion-y so, should take this elswhere
cursive ridge
do BLMs sometimes not run from mechanics, wait for other people to run out of them and teleport to them? because that's peak laziness and i'd love that
deft quiver
Like BLM can insta cast thunder, fire, and can teleport to allies and back to th...
ye jumping to people and back to laylines too
leaden ginkgo
Also gets Sharpcast and will get inokia for free come enwalker
deft quiver
do BLMs sometimes not run from mechanics, wait for other people to run out of th...
yes
i used to do that on e5-e7s progs before i stopped playing
modest igloo
yeah, stuff like this is where you can see 2013 devs vs 2019 devs
deft quiver
very useful
leaden ginkgo
do BLMs sometimes not run from mechanics, wait for other people to run out of th...
It depends. If I need to stay still, I’ll cast manaward and eat the hit
leaden ginkgo
But that’s assuming I can’t teleport
deft quiver
30% of hp?
leaden ginkgo
Ye
leaden ginkgo
Teleport makes it a bit redundant, but sometimes allies aren’t in a good spot either
modest igloo
It depends. If I need to stay still, I’ll cast manaward and eat the hit
too bad they start giving damage downs in savage :
twilit arch
as i said
leaden ginkgo
If a healer pulls me out of laylines, Imma be pissed lol
twilit arch
this is less answering question, and more of a discussion
deft quiver
too bad they start giving damage downs in savage :<:MiqoteDepressed:661320039517...
savage will probably kill you anyways lol
twilit arch
should take it to #general-discussion or #beginner-lounge
deft quiver
aight
cursive ridge
what's the point of Manafont? one more fireball on a 3 minute cooldown doesn't seem that great
deft quiver
fire 4, thunder if needed, and get mana to 0 with one of the big booms before switching to ice again
atomic pilot
I am trying to get my game to a lower ping than usual for Ultimates. I have heard things about Exitlag and wanted to give it's free trial a shot. But it's saying No Connection through Exitlag. I am wondering if something's off.
leaden ginkgo
what's the point of Manafont? one more fireball on a 3 minute cooldown doesn't s...
More time in astral fire and is free
twilit arch
an extra fire 4 is still more dps
leaden ginkgo
Like 3,000 free mp? Yes please!
twilit arch
or a flare for AoE
cursive ridge
with the way BLM chugs mana, 3k seems like barely anything
leaden ginkgo
with the way BLM chugs mana, 3k seems like barely anything
An extra cast matters
deft quiver
especially with high spell speed
twilit arch
its an extra f4/flare, which is still more dmg
like thats never something to sneeze at
leaden ginkgo
Especially if said cast nets a free fire iii which can use to shift back after casting blizzard 3 and cappinf
modest igloo
its also part of the famous 4-flare combo
cursive ridge
ohh, you probably need triplecast to appreciate manafont, that would probably make it less clunky
deft quiver
speaking of blm, do we know what the new abilities are yet or when they'll be revealed?
leaden ginkgo
BLM only supports the party through damage. They don’t get res unlike summoner and REZmage so they need to capitalize on the thing theu’re good at
deft quiver
ohh, you probably need triplecast to appreciate manafont, that would probably ma...
or while youre in ley lines
modest igloo
speaking of blm, do we know what the new abilities are yet or when they'll be re...
oct 13th will probably tell us more
cursive ridge
oct 13 is the embargo?
twilit arch
I mean....you use manafont at the end of your opener/towards the end
deft quiver
ah ok
leaden ginkgo
speaking of blm, do we know what the new abilities are yet or when they'll be re...
Certain spells will prock inokia and inokia is now a trait
twilit arch
depending on what opener you're running
deft quiver
Certain spells will prock inokia and inokia is now a trait
woah
is that the fire and ice explosion shown in the vid
?
leaden ginkgo
Not sure
cursive ridge
the new animations are probably high fire and high blizzard
deft quiver
fair enough
leaden ginkgo
But I believe the main way inokia procks now is by shifting between ice and fire
deft quiver
ah ok
modest igloo
my guess is that it's a way to keep up fire phase with f1 so you can f4 more
deft quiver
thats gonna be more dps between shifts i guess
leaden ginkgo
It’s also less buttons to push
And a trait that can always prock versus a cooldown
deft quiver
what are the current highest dps classes?
inland pasture
Do you unlock the npc to get the SdB relic gear after finishing the last 5.0 quest, or later?
leaden ginkgo
what are the current highest dps classes?
Iirc; Sam, BLM, and Ninja
deft quiver
ninja?
leaden ginkgo
Yup
deft quiver
smn isnt up there rn?
modest igloo
enochian as a trait is def a nice upgrade, esp for DRG as well
modest igloo
Do you unlock the npc to get the SdB relic gear after finishing the last 5.0 que...
need to beat 5.1 msq first
leaden ginkgo
I think summoner was 5-6
glossy flare
smn isnt up there rn?
still very much up there
deft quiver
oh damn
leaden ginkgo
But it might jump
glossy flare
the difference is minimal anyway
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glossy flare
smn? yea
leaden ginkgo
Ninja requires full optimization to hit third place
deft quiver
unless you are into speedkills the difference is negligible
fair enough
faint flare
It also depends on the fight as well
leaden ginkgo
So arguably it’s 4-5 since most won’t use it that way
faint flare
As fights and various downtime can fuck some jobs more than others
leaden ginkgo
Especially if you take out Trick Attack
deft quiver
i only ever did e5-e7s like a year ago, but i definitely plan on raiding and/or doing extremes with endwalker
faint flare
You can see charts on fflogs for percentiles on each fight
glossy flare
yeah, if you look at fflogs statistics the "places" can very much vary depending on the fight
deft quiver
but im trynna find a fun class that doesnt take as much figuring out where to be and when
glossy flare
play dancer
deft quiver
raided with blm, and it was a lot more figuring out positioning than anything
glossy flare
arguably the easiest class in the game
glossy flare
¯_(ツ)_/¯
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modest igloo
play MCH then
leaden ginkgo
I hate that BLM is outpaced by Sam
modest igloo
fast and simple to understand
glossy flare
to be fair, you had the extreme with blm, no other job is that reliant on good positioning
deft quiver
ye was considering either ninja or machinist
leaden ginkgo
Because the other mages have REZ
deft quiver
but i have to level them both
sleek needle
Dnc is just a bunch of procs disguised as a class
deft quiver
mch is like 32 and ninja is still a lvl 10 rogue lol
deft quiver
to be fair, you had the extreme with blm, no other job is that reliant on good p...
ye thats fair
it was a lot of optimizing positioning
leaden ginkgo
I’m struggling to go back to DPS after healer
deft quiver
but at least theres a lot of resources for that
leaden ginkgo
Healer to me feels so pivotal to a fight
deft quiver
I’m struggling to go back to DPS after healer
ive considered healing too
just got ast to 80 and its a ton of fun
leaden ginkgo
ive considered healing too
Do it, it’s fun
deft quiver
plus healers get insta queues in everything too
twilit arch
leaden ginkgo
Speaking of, if I buy the expansion for pc and not console, will I get the exp ring on pc only or both?
faint flare
It's universal
twilit arch
the earring is account bound
leaden ginkgo
So I can use on both pc and console?
twilit arch
you won't be able to access endwalker zones on the console if you dont buy it for that
faint flare
Yes, it's just an item
twilit arch
no
leaden ginkgo
Luckily I have Road to 70 then
hazy totem
I've got crypt twine thinking belt is considered armor, turns out it's a accessory - any way to trade it back into tokens or into dusting simply ?
glad robin
Where do I start the zodiac weapon quest line?
twilit arch
since they are being removed in endwalker
twilit arch
Where do I start the zodiac weapon quest line?
first initial quest is in vesper bay, from nedrick. "The weaponsmith of legend"
hazy totem
I'm aware but that's last piece i've got @520 so might as well
glad robin
first initial quest is in vesper bay, from nedrick. "The weaponsmith of legend"
Do you know which town he’s in?
open coral
Vesper Bay
agile laurel
Do you know which town he’s in?
vesper bay
twilit arch
vesper bay, western thanalan
open coral
Where the Waking Sands is.
glad robin
Oh right
full flame
is today the last day of the offert?
regal pawn
yaes
leaden ginkgo
Embrace your inner weeb
craggy tinsel
Hey, when does the Complete Edition sale end? I have a friend that plans to buy it but isn't sure when he will
boreal aurora
whats the one big unicorn called that u get from a fate when u do it 2 times
mount
twilit arch
ixion
boreal aurora
thx
heady lily
Will the amaro mount still be available when endwalker drops? or will there be a different mount for getting all jobs to 90?
pulsar escarp
It’ll still be available
For all jobs to eighty
We don’t know anything about 90s
twilit arch
even if there is a mount for getting all jobs to 90, it wouldn't remove the amaro achievement
they are separate achievements
heady lily
yeah its just that there isnt a mount for gettinng all jobs to 70 so i thought they may change it up or somethig
at least i dont think there is
twilit arch
the amaro was the first of its kind
heady lily
oooh ok
devout sundial
at which point in the msq should i watch the shadowbringers trailer, i am at last patch of stormblood and i am wondering when i should watch shadowbringers so it fits with what is happening in the msq?
faint flare
When you finish it completely
sleek needle
Better finish stormblood before watching
sleek needle
Ya
spiral mango
question, how much crysta do you need for a 6 month sub ?
open coral
However much is equivalent to $77.94USD.
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cursive ridge
does this mean that A) there is already a group of players full for that role and i'm #9 in the 'excess' pool or B) whenever a new group forms, I am ninth in line to get in for that role?
as in, if it's a group for a 8man raid and i queue as DPS, does #9 here mean that there are 4 + 9 DPS queued and i'm the last of the 9, or does it mean that there are 4 + 5 queued
ignoring the ones after me
regal pawn
there's 8 more people from your role ahead of you
cursive ridge
so 4+5?
regal pawn
It could be 4 man and 5 solos
it could be all solos
it could be 4 2mans and you
there's 9 dps queueing and that's basically it
sleek needle
Doesn't matter much
regal pawn
Which is why sometimes you might get a pop while you're like 5th
sleek needle
Indeed
regal pawn
cause the people ahead of you might not be solos
but there's a 7/8 needing a solo dps
cursive ridge
interesting
pallid hearth
For crafter and gatherer, is it enough to have all saint set?
twilit arch
ye, land/handsaint is fine for now especially since we're so close to the upcoming expansion
getting aesthete and melding it at this point, unless you really want to craft the 4s recipes, its a waste of gil
regal pawn
There's a couple crafts that are easier with pentameld aesthete's
But it's not worth it at this point
pallid hearth
Hmm I probably will want to craft exarchic but if saint is enough then okay
pallid hearth
I mean, if saint set is enough to craft HQ exarchic set?
regal pawn
ye
cursive ridge
what about the skysomething tools, i heard that they're supposed to be something you upgrade in the next expansion?
regal pawn
probably
twilit arch
doubtful
regal pawn
what about the skysomething tools, i heard that they're supposed to be something...
Skysteel relic
faint flare
They're DoL/h relics
twilit arch
relics aren't connected, even tho this is the first true doh/dol relic
regal pawn
I don't think they said anything about one for endwalker
pallid hearth
OK! Thank you~ I'll stop at saint set
twilit arch
more likely to have a new set, if they do another, than building off of skysteel
cursive ridge
i wonder what was it then that i remembered that is going to be upgraded in endwalker
pallid hearth
should be enough for upcoming endwalker crafts I think lol
cursive ridge
was a while ago
wispy orbit
How bad is it to level in squadrons by just letting your squadron do the trash?
leaden ginkgo
On diadem guides it says I can sky fish when I hit 45 but all the sky fishing bait I see on this vendor says lvl 80 did they change it?
leaden ginkgo
I got finally my father into trying the Trial, however, money dissapears because he is over 300k and he asks if there is anything he should invest his money into?
Atm he is buying Gysahl like a maniac but I wondered myself is there anything a Trial user could invest too?
outer mural
spiral mango
so when endwalker releases, do we know what type of content will be locked by not completeing EW's campaign ?
outer mural
yeah, all hard content will be post-msq, which includes both launch ex's and savage raid a month later
alongside the alliance raid
spiral mango
ex's ?
outer mural
extreme trials
opaque heart
skill speed, spell speed, tenacity or piety materia for tank?
outer mural
if you're not at 80 then pick whatever it won't matter
but if you HAD to choose, go skill speed
polar gorge
which would be the best option for ninja?
outer mural
its VII materia
you would want 8 regardless sadly 
outer mural
which would be the best option for ninja?
you hae to do all of them any way so it doesn't matter
all of those stats benefit you so whatever
polar gorge
all of those stats benefit you so whatever
ok
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feral nebula
I have a kinda stupid question ... Was amaro achievement there before shadowbringers for having all classes on max (70 by then)?
wispy orbit
Is the amaro confirmed going away?
faint flare
No
feral nebula
So in theory, if i dont get it before EW, it wouldnt auto update to 90 on classes?
faint flare
Stuff doesn't go away
faint flare
So in theory, if i dont get it before EW, it wouldnt auto update to 90 on classe...
It won't
They don't remove content
primal ermine
So in theory, if i dont get it before EW, it wouldnt auto update to 90 on classe...
90 will have a different thing
feral nebula
Ah ok ..
I was scared that they put the achievement to being all 90 ///remove it ..
faint flare
They don't remove content