#questions-and-help

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open rivet
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it's like pvp, unless you know people are queueing you might wait hours

fast talon
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idk if its gonna help in non-JP servers but enabling JP in mahjong made my queue much faster

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like...nearly instant lol

patent citrus
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yeah if you are on JP DC, make sure you enabled all languages

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or EU

astral bolt
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Mahjong is a popular Asian past time

patent citrus
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EU isn't that different since majority speaks English, but in JP you must enable them all

open rivet
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will probs hop onto a jp DC when I'll be grinding mahjong achievos.

void venture
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what shd i put on summoner ?

fast talon
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Crit Hit into Direct Hit iirc

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im not in this step yet but from what i heard you can re-do this step eventually, but for summoner your main stat is critical hit and then direct hit.

faint flare
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Basically just follow the meld priority

astral bolt
outer mural
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@void venture

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spell speed succs for smn

faint flare
astral bolt
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You can custom relic stats?

outer mural
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depends on which

zinc orbitBOT
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outer mural
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for the level 80 one yes for the last two steps

faint flare
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Each relic let's you customise stats some way

fast talon
faint flare
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Stormblood is rng with stat changes

outer mural
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anima is direct stat allocation for some steps

leaden ginkgo
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How can i compare quest reward gear to my current one? Im on console

midnight tinsel
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Press on the reward

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Then item compare

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Not sure what controller you have

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So just test the 4 action buttons

alpine shadow
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xbox controller on ps4 Thonk

leaden ginkgo
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oh it was the square button. Thx

opaque fiber
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Are eden statics doing only 1 tier per group, like E9S-E12S, or they do all eden raids E1S-E12S?

fast talon
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usually its only the last tier

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since thats the one with still relevant gear

opaque fiber
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I want to do the previous raids too, should I look for a static for them after?

alpine shadow
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you don't require to do a static to do those, but it would be easier.

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though, you don't need a seperate static just for that

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only if you were for example, doing e9s-e12s whilst doing ultimate progging

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or if you really want to double-static e9s-e12s ??

outer mural
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if you think it would help yes

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an e9 -e12 static may nott be interested in lower tiers
if so, if you think it'd help out finding one, no reason to not try

opaque fiber
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I'm not quite sure I understand the definition of static

alpine shadow
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static is a group you play with for an extended amount of time

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possible weeks or months

midnight tinsel
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Its like a raid group in other games

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Ffxiv just has a fancy word

outer mural
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you get other people to fill out a group / roles and commit to progressing and doing instances

alpine shadow
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instead of a pug where you play with randoms

outer mural
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such as e9 to e12

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it offers consistency if your group gets the right people

opaque fiber
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So if I plan on E1S-E4S in like a week, that won't be a static? Even if I want the people to come consistently to the raid if they can daily?

outer mural
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it would technically be a static if you group gets together and does it all together

opaque fiber
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I have a bad-ish experience with casual groups

midnight tinsel
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Its just semantics

opaque fiber
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We kept having to use party finder for bahamut / alexander and sometimes had to cancel

outer mural
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a static is just the idea of committing to a thing as a group and working to get it done even if difficulties come up

alpine shadow
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bahamut / alexander??

outer mural
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a static acn do stuff within the range of a week to a couple of months

opaque fiber
alpine shadow
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we talking about ultimates or savage?

outer mural
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the static of course must agree on a time where people can get together / do stuff

opaque fiber
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Yes but I gave an example for a casual group experience i had

outer mural
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that doesn't answer's thaun question but i still get what u mean

alpine shadow
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if you were pf an ultimate, then no wonder.

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otherwise you could just unsync the savage raids

outer mural
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but yeah statics usually:

  1. commit to a timeframe to get stuff done
  2. consistently have members commit to progressing even if people get stuck on stuff
  3. have members work with the group to try and improve and overcome fights
opaque fiber
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I did them synced, it's fun

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But lets go back to the ultimates. So would E9S-E12S be enough to get into a group?

alpine shadow
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if they know you can play good at those fights

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it's not just "i can clear it"

outer mural
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depends on what group but yes tpyically you need logs proving you're competent in e9s to e12s at the current timeframe

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ie relatively good parses

opaque fiber
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FFLogs basically?

alpine shadow
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mhm

outer mural
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fflogs literally

faint flare
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If you're not consistent at mechanics you're going to struggle in ultimates

opaque fiber
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So complete it at first, then keep re-completing it until I get good at it?

outer mural
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ultimates are brutal tests of endurance

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yes

faint flare
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Consistency is key

outer mural
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you basically just have to show you're good at mechanics and can consistently do well

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emphasis on consistent

opaque fiber
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I see

outer mural
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and that is reflected through your performances in parses and number of clears

faint flare
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Any bob can get carried in savage but ultimates NEED consistency

opaque fiber
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So I've got around 2-3 weeks of progress to go through before I can start ultimates

leaden ginkgo
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I'm not sure if this is clear so I'll just say it for good measure: No savage raid that is not e9-e12 prepares you for ultimate. Reason being: unysnced you already super overgeared for older fights, synced you already have the best gear for older savage fights automatically.
Heck even doing e9-e12 rn is doing it with training wheels since now people can reach iLevel 530 without doing savage.

outer mural
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depends on how good you are

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if you think you're a god gamer and can consistently get large amounts of progress in that timeframe then by all means yeah

alpine shadow
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also, you want to be bis when parsing, else you look worse compared to others that are bis

opaque fiber
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what's bis?

outer mural
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best in slot

leaden ginkgo
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best in slot

fast talon
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best in slot

outer mural
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ie, most powerful gear

opaque fiber
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I don't have iLvl 530

outer mural
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so that will also eat up some time if you want to commit to getting good parases

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yeah

alpine shadow
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you get ilvl530 from e9-e12s

outer mural
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i wouldn't really set my eyes on ultimate until you just get really good at e9s - e12s anyway

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so step by step just focus on getting savage done

leaden ginkgo
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for ult's and savage you should aim to get the best gear available to you

outer mural
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and then see what you can do with ultiamte when you're comfortable

opaque fiber
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Yes true but the problem is iLvl 530 isn't required for lvl 70 ultimates

midnight tinsel
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Does fflogs take out directed dmg buffs like dancer in the parses ?

outer mural
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we can sit here and talk about what you need for ultimate all night but realistically you should just get savage done before even thinking about it

faint flare
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!faq fflogsdps

zinc orbitBOT
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What is the difference between rDPS, pDPS and aDPS on FFLogs?
  • RaidDPS (rDPS) is: Your TotalDPS minus the damage from buffs you received plus the damage from buffs you contributed
  • Personal DPS (pDPS) is: Your TotalDPS without being adjusted for buffs.
  • aDPS is: Your TotalDPS minus single target buffs applied to you (devilment, dragon sight, astro cards, etc)
outer mural
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yes flora

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two aggregates are taken

leaden ginkgo
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no you do not need to farm any bis for ultimates except alexander

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since your gear will be level synced to 70

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and you can do just fine

outer mural
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yes anything over ilevel is fine

faint flare
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Except for Alexander

outer mural
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i am sure thaun_ meant bis for e9-12 for parsing

faint flare
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Due to how sync works

outer mural
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🪱

leaden ginkgo
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🪱

faint flare
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!faq ultsync

zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
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!faq ultimatesync

zinc orbitBOT
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Syncing Gear for Ultimates

Many pieces of gear are BiS when synced down. The 'low' stat on the higher ilvl gear will reach the stat cap on the lower ilvl gear. This outweighs the melds you lose in some cases, and in others it is few points of stats behind.

UCoB: ilvl 418 and above will have both stats capped
UWU: ilvl 470 and above will have both stats capped
TEA: no available ilvl cap yet, syncing gear will not cap all substats and will ignore melding slots.

See the calculator below (WIP)
https://bit.ly/XIVGearSyncCalc

alpine shadow
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first impressions

opaque fiber
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I know but my problem is that to get best parse in e9-12 I'd need 530 gear, but not for ultimates since it's level 70

outer mural
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but yeah back to my point, just do e9s - e12s in general to get good regarldess of which ultimate ur gonna do

alpine shadow
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that too.

outer mural
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the point was never about alex / 70 ult bis

faint flare
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It's the mechanical skill you need

outer mural
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the point was to get e9-12 done in order to prep your logs / 'resume'

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and like vinyl said, git gud

leaden ginkgo
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honestly it doesnt matter if you clear e9-e12 with orange parses or greens. Important is that you clear it to begin with

outer mural
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mhm

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one step at a time

alpine shadow
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not just prep your logs, but to prep your brain

outer mural
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you think too much about heading into ults then you'll be up at night thinking about it

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and that might just burn urself out

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enjoy savage for savage

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not as a gateway to ult only

alpine shadow
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if you head straight into ultimate, you would be wondering why you are dying on the 2 first mecs of the fight

opaque fiber
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Yes I will but I'm really confused now

leaden ginkgo
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why

outer mural
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what's up

proper bolt
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Prob a dumb question but I’m lvl 80 my friend is 20-ish and doing his first duty MSQ. I can’t run him through unsync’d can I?

jovial quarry
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You can

faint flare
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You can

outer mural
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duty or instance

opaque fiber
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You said I need iLvl 530 for good parsing in E9-12 before I get into ults, but then said it's not required for ucob so I'm confused if I should bother grinding for it now or leave it aside for the time being

open rivet
faint flare
midnight tinsel
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Parses shouldnt really matter ?

proper bolt
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I was more going to just heal him to death 🤣 let him do all the msg

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Dmg*

midnight tinsel
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Like if you wanna get into great groups i guess

outer mural
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but you should still grind for ilevel 530 stuff for the logs because that is important to show for getting into an ult static

open rivet
opaque fiber
open rivet
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it'll be punchin bags

outer mural
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like the glowy stuff in the overworld whee it takes him in

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or do u mean dungeons

fast talon
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dont join a group that wants your parse numbers it probably wont be an enjoyable time

alpine shadow
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you don't have to grind up gear, but you atleast want to be mechanically skilled

outer mural
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this is incorrect for ults, ult statics tpyically recruit with parse numbers in mind up to a standard

alpine shadow
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parse is just a flavour ontop

leaden ginkgo
# opaque fiber You said I need iLvl 530 for good parsing in E9-12 before I get into ults, but t...

Ok:
BiS is required for good parses. Good parses are an indicator that you are performing well in fights with higher difficulty. If you parse fights undergeared that will lower your parse and skew with your actual performance. This is why a lot of people will say parses only matter if you are BiS.
However, this is not to say that just because you are not BiS you are allowed to parse absolute shite and play super bad. Cant just say "lol im not bis thats why I dont get any good parses"
some people sadly do this as well..

outer mural
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you can't really say 'well i am good at video games' without any logs showing such

leaden ginkgo
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^^^^^^

midnight tinsel
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@proper bolt tbh going in as tank in regular duty finder is probably more enjoyable

outer mural
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because they don't want a rando grey andy wasting their time when they can't get past the first 2 living liquid mechanics

leaden ginkgo
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^^^^

proper bolt
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It’s Sashtasha

outer mural
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oh yes you can unsync it

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HOWEVER

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if it's just them and you healing them

opaque fiber
outer mural
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it takes forever

open rivet
outer mural
leaden ginkgo
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I dont think everyone wants to go through the effort and analyze each of your logs

outer mural
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it is also not entirely accruate for some fights

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my friend does optimal multi-target GNB stuff in TEA

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it yells at him for using multi-target in a 'single-target' instance

proper bolt
outer mural
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either way i am saying that logs are important and continuing to shimmy around the issue is not getting you into ults any faster

fast talon
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somehow finding sastasha fun will be a miracle in of itself, early arr dungeons are so dull

proper bolt
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I could go sync’s but I’d miss medica 2 too much lol

alpine shadow
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well, there is one other metric that people use, and that is them trialing you in a fight

opaque fiber
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Well, would it be reasonable to do it as iLvl 520? I'd grind for 530 on the way but prefer to focus on getting better rather than getting better gear. But on the other hand, don't want the gear to be the reason I wasn't able to join a group

ashen hazel
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hey guys im having a small issue

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i cant seem to see any details about my actions and traits

open rivet
alpine shadow
leaden ginkgo
ashen hazel
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i can see the image, but when i hover over theres no detaisl

outer mural
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it is possible to do it at 520 for parsing, it will just be harder to get higher numbers as

  1. you are statistically dfoing less damage by 10 ilevels which is not great
  2. it is very late into the tier so that issue is worse than if you were earlier in the tier
midnight tinsel
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Maybe just opening your own learning group is what you should do if you are that anxious

proper bolt
alpine shadow
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like, if everyone got BiS it's gonna be super easy to get gear, unless they got alt jobs

outer mural
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unless you mean for getting savage done?

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i mean

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savage can be done at i510

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we are severely overgearred in terms of entry level

fast talon
outer mural
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we are speaking getting bis for parsing

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you will get gear from savage, reclear to practice and get good, as well as for getting parases

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it's that simple

opaque fiber
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Yes but my question is could I still do good enough to join a group with iLvl 520?

outer mural
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for savage? yes of course

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savage doesn't have any crazy entry level shit like ult does

fast talon
opaque fiber
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Then I might get the iLvl 530 for another job

outer mural
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we were speaking logs and ilevel for ults alone

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i mean

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why would you

open rivet
outer mural
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530 was recommended for the class you would be playing to get parses for that

opaque fiber
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because I'd like to have each role with proper gear, currently I only have tank

fast talon
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no, i forget its name like, theres no boss other than the final one

fast talon
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every wall just spawns a bunch of ads

outer mural
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if your primary goal is ults then gear up the class you're expecting to play savage and ults on

alpine shadow
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that's gonna take a long time to farm, if you want all gear for all jobs

outer mural
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if you don't wanna rush it, do whatevr you want

fast talon
outer mural
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gear up the class you're going to be playing in savage for eden to get parses

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start at i520, do savages to get good at it, get gear up to 530

ashen hazel
opaque fiber
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Ok

outer mural
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if ur logs aren't great without i530, it will become highly recommended to get i530 asap to increase ur log numbers

open rivet
outer mural
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after u are comfortable/consistent, as well as having decent logs, u can head into ult whenever u feel like it

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that's just my two cents

opaque fiber
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Well I'm convinced now but I still got one question, is it fine combining 520 exarchic gear and 520 relevations tomestone gear?

fast talon
outer mural
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it is encouraged to mix and match sets for optimal stat targetting

alpine shadow
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yeah

outer mural
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ie if you're playing like

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ninja

alpine shadow
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we started at ilvl510 at launch

outer mural
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you want zero skill speed which can only be done via mixing and matching sets

opaque fiber
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Ok

alpine shadow
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or was it 500?

midnight tinsel
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Isnt there something like itemlevel parses in ffxiv ?

outer mural
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generally no

opaque fiber
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And if I remember right, those can give me 2 530?

leaden ginkgo
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you can always ask the balance discord what gear is recommended for prog and what is BiS

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btw

outer mural
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people always aggregate all item levels into one category

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and i530 will be the ones that remain at the top

glossy flare
opaque fiber
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Ok ty

midnight tinsel
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Lol thats stupid

glossy flare
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which then becomes 530

alpine shadow
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you also want to make sure you are getting your bis gear

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!faq balance

zinc orbitBOT
alpine shadow
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don't accidentally purchase a gear that is bad for your job

leaden ginkgo
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did you ever read the summoner job guide...?

outer mural
open rivet
outer mural
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and no one gives a shit about the 510/520 parses

midnight tinsel
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I guess its a different mentality from wow

alpine shadow
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everyone uses a bis gear now, so everyone wants to parse that

outer mural
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wow players will parse waking up quicker if it means they can ego it

opaque fiber
alpine shadow
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mostly parses is a bit about crit rng, skill and stuff

leaden ginkgo
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oh my

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no

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the one in the balance

opaque fiber
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I haven't read any guide lol

outer mural
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the akh morning one is honestly not great

open rivet
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Hey guys a bit of a more lighthearted question while y'all on parsing.

b4 finishing ARR, what's the highest IL one can reach w/o using marketboard?
I've gotten 207 w/ pvp gear, or 278 with using silver chocobo feathers for 70 tome gear.
anything I missed?

outer mural
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in terms of like

honest anvil
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random chime in but ... it sounds like you havent done savage, ever? and if that’s the case then just grab ez i520 gears then go in and try ... all the bis gearing up stuff can be dealt with later ...

outer mural
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showing waht ur supposed to do clearly

faint flare
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? You high?

outer mural
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maybe i'm just pepega but i cannot read that guide for shit

faint flare
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It's pretty clear and breaks down everything

fast talon
faint flare
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Here's each Phases and what our aims are

fast talon
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since you wont be able to do the SB raids to get the gear from there without getting out of trial

faint flare
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And why we do it

leaden ginkgo
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gonna be real here

open rivet
outer mural
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i just could not swallow any information from the guide but that's not exactly pertinent to the discussion

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and i'm p sure it's just me being Pepega

alpine shadow
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you need full extent knowledge of your class to bring out the most of the dps of the current ilvl you are on right now.

outer mural
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don't ask about ults if you're not even sure how to do your rotation properly

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just being honest

alpine shadow
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and one way of knowing that you are doing good, and not missing anything, is parsing.

faint flare
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Especially with summoner and it's small details

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Like dealing with ghosting

outer mural
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and different rotations to use during fights, like 110s vs 120s

faint flare
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or be like me and braindead rush every fight geblobderpy

outer mural
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i'm not saying what i said to put you down

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but don't sprint before you even crawl man

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focus on what's ahead of you, not what's at the end

leaden ginkgo
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^

opaque fiber
honest anvil
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i think it’s good that you want to be prepared for harder content and all but you’re overthinking it

leaden ginkgo
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read your job guide, check the encounter specific channel for summoner on e9s, do some rotation practice and then start e9 prog

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there you go

obsidian patio
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!faq smnguide

zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
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I live in Asia do I need VPN to create account in eu

obsidian patio
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yes

honest anvil
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to start doing savage as a newb, just get ez i520 gears, watch fight guide, watch your job guide and just go in ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

opaque fiber
outer mural
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practice rotation on a dummy, get the basics of a class, bring it to fights

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then do savage

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that's pretty much it

leaden ginkgo
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Wynne just linked it for you but yeah all resources are in the balance

outer mural
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can ctrl+f 'balance' to find it

opaque fiber
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Hmmm ok

leaden ginkgo
opaque fiber
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So read the guides and then start eden prog if I understand right?

outer mural
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practice

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practice

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practice

fast talon
opaque fiber
outer mural
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get tangibly competent wit hthe rotation after reading the guides

obsidian patio
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depends exactly where in asia

alpine shadow
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you won't be good by just reading the guide

outer mural
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yes

leaden ginkgo
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oh yeah another thing

outer mural
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you have to play the game and apply knowledge from the guide

shut panther
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I'm in japan and had no issues making an account on NA, personally

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idk about europe

outer mural
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you can't just absorb knowledge then immediately know how to play

fast talon
obsidian patio
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if you're in china/korea the account process might try to force you to their clients

leaden ginkgo
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you can also look at the logs of other summonrs that parse well, throw those into analysis and use them as reference for what you need to do

opaque fiber
honest anvil
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just start playing

outer mural
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either way you understand my point is that you need to read the guide and play the game

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and

lethal cape
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So um, I play WHM and my DPS is around 10k on a dummy even with perfect rotation and uptime
How do other people hit 14.5k DPS constantly with basically the same gear as me? (I have 520, they have 530. Both have materia and stats are literally almost the same, the difference is around ~50 stat)

shut panther
faint flare
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Raid buffs and better weapon

outer mural
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really just get it going, man. nothing else to really say. bring it into normal fights once you get good with it on a dummy

shut panther
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first and foremost, there's the simple buff for having multiple roles, 5%?

leaden ginkgo
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just start gaming and if people complain about you underperforming tell them that they dont pay your sub /s

outer mural
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and yeah ropter 5%

shut panther
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second, the various damage buffs you'll get from other party members

lethal cape
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Ohhh, it's from the raid buffs, right

fast talon
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food might be another one too

outer mural
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main stat is the biggest factor to damage

shut panther
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and third, weapon is a bigger chunk of your damage than that mere 15 item level might suggest

outer mural
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it's slept on often bc people think substats can outweigh them

shut panther
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fourth, you're probably not potting/fooding to hit a dummy

lethal cape
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I forgot I don't get any dps increases as I parsed solo

outer mural
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while ther are exceptions, mainstat is better most of the time in ilevel increments of 10

lethal cape
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Ty

autumn acorn
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uuuuuuuuuuuh

alpine shadow
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where you live

shut panther
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~10k on a dummy is probably pretty correct at 520 on whm.

autumn acorn
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europe

warm snow
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Substats can only make up for base weapon difference at a difference of around 5 at most

autumn acorn
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but which one do i pick

outer mural
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!faq worldtype

zinc orbitBOT
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Types of Worlds

Standard: This World has an average amount of players. Standard Worlds have no bonuses or long-term restrictions active.

Preferred: This World has a lower than average amount of players. Marked with a star, Preferred Worlds grant new characters a +100% experience boost for every class to level 70 for at least 90 days, 10 Silver Chocobo Feathers to spend on gear at the Calamity Salvager, and a one-time deal of 15 days of free subscription for hitting level 30.

Congested: This World has an overabundance of players. Congested Worlds are completely locked off from new characters and Home World transfers.

New: This World has been recently added to the game and has a low amount of players. Along with the incentives that Preferred Worlds have, New Worlds will also give players who hit level 30 one million Gil once per datacenter. Home World Transfers to New Worlds are free of charge.

Legacy: This World has existed since 1.0. Legacy Worlds have no bonus of their own and can be Standard/Preferred/Congested.

alpine shadow
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chaos/light

outer mural
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oop sorry

shut panther
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I mean, it's not like there's much to optimize there -- you're literally just mashing glare and keeping a single dot up

outer mural
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worng comamnd

warm snow
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Chaos or light

faint flare
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You already have Chaos selected

outer mural
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!faq worldpick

zinc orbitBOT
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Which world should I pick?

You can play on any world on any datacenter within FFXIV. Aside from the languages spoken, the physical location of the servers, and the status of each world, there are no major differences. This also means population on a given server is quite meaningless.

The majority of content is cross-world, with the exception of Free Companies, Linkshells, and restrictions when visiting other worlds.

If you don't mind where you play, choose a world that is Preferred or New for character creation bonuses. Check world status by using !status <world name> or via the Lodestone. For information about the status types, use !faq worldtype.

Notable worlds:

  • Balmung & Mateus (Role-playing)
  • Tonberry & Kujata (Large amount of Oceanic players)
  • Moogle (Large amount of French players)
  • Shiva (Large amount of German players)
    ANY CENSUSES OR WORLD STEREOTYPES BEYOND THIS IS INACCURATE BIAS AND SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY
open rivet
faint flare
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As a data centre

compact field
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I've never done savage raids before but I want to try doing the Eden ones. Where are the best places to organize parties for that?

outer mural
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i believe the data centers are all in the same building someone said right

shut panther
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they are indeed

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their ips are literally single increments on each other

outer mural
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so yes tangible location doesn't matter, ur ping will be good or bad regardless

shut panther
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!faq datacenterip

zinc orbitBOT
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Datacenter IP Addresses

List of IP Addresses for each Datacenter

North America
Aether: 204.2.229.9
Primal: 204.2.229.10
Crystal: 204.2.229.11

Europe
Chaos: 195.82.50.9
Light: 195.82.50.10

Japan
Mana: 124.150.157.156
Gaia: 124.150.157.157
Elemental: 124.150.157.158

how do I ping the IP?

Windows: Open Command Prompt and type ping *insert IP Address here*
Mac: Open Terminal and type ping *insert IP Address here*

open rivet
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ANY CENSUSES OR WORLD STEREOTYPES BEYOND THIS IS INACCURATE BIAS AND SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY
90% of my blocked list is from Twintania :^) just saying

outer mural
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pick the ones from the faq i posted about for worldpick if they intrigue you

fast talon
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lol yall werent kidding they really are single increments of each other

outer mural
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otherwise pick any. recommended to have a preferred world. i'm on crystal, it's pretty chill

open rivet
outer mural
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if you can't decide then

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flip coins or something idk

autumn acorn
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should i go for chaos?

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it has a star so that means i'll get more xp?

opaque fiber
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Chaos has 2 preferred worlds, idk if light has any

faint flare
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That just means it's your current data centre

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The xp world's are shown during character creation

patent citrus
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Can you speak French?

open rivet
honest anvil
outer mural
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differences between worlds are minimal besides the ones in faqpick

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communities will generally be the same levels of engaging/friendly or stoic/toxic regarldess of where u go

open rivet
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o/ toxic af player here.
welcome to the game

autumn acorn
outer mural
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i am also toxic af so either way u lose regardless of what u pick

leaden ginkgo
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also @opaque fiber when looking for a static

autumn acorn
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so i'll go chaos ig

leaden ginkgo
autumn acorn
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praise chaos

faint flare
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You need to confirm it

leaden ginkgo
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this is a good place to start

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and find one

outer mural
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the star doesn't do anything since you need to confirm it

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but

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if you like chaos then yeahhhh chaos whooooo

autumn acorn
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oh you're right

alpine shadow
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ff origins would like that

fast talon
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according to lodestone chaos still has preferred servers while light doesnt.

outer mural
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NA and JP are more populated than EU's datacenters too iirc

opaque fiber
leaden ginkgo
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neato

outer mural
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which is atually a tangible difference i should remember to bring up next time this is asked lmao

autumn acorn
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i'll just flip a coin then

quaint brook
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Pick your favorite server name

open rivet
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pick it based on what kupobot will still recognize even if you typo it

autumn acorn
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what is this

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i went for spriggan btw

alpine shadow
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press Ok

autumn acorn
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appearance data

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do i tick it

alpine shadow
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if you created a character before

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and saved it, or trough the benchmark

autumn acorn
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i haven't

patent citrus
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Is it bad to suggest people to play in the server with lowest ping?

alpine shadow
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then you don't tick it

patent citrus
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I saw noone asked where he's from, lol

autumn acorn
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i'm eu

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said it a bit further up

patent citrus
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ah ok i'm sorry

autumn acorn
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damn what is this

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i get horns?

quaint brook
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Lizard men

autumn acorn
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yoo

faint flare
elder root
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dragons but yeah

autumn acorn
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they do look cool

elder root
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they're pretty popular

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but well the male run animation might turn you off

patent citrus
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yeah a lot metal spiky hair selection as well

elder root
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find a video and see if you don't mind it

fast talon
quaint brook
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I see male auras frequently in my server

elder root
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I think male are popular too

fast talon
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might just be a server bias

elder root
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super popular choice for DRK

patent citrus
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isn't Aura far east race? should be more popular in JP

fast talon
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JP has a lot of lalafells...

elder root
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cause their bodies are huge

autumn acorn
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is it just me or does this guy look a little goofy

patent citrus
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you can check out the luckybancho census I guess

autumn acorn
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not getting the big ogre vibes

quaint brook
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Pick a race that speaks to u

fast talon
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also note that each race has two versions, like uh tribes i guess or subrace, i dont know the term

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the other kind of roegadyn is a bit less goofy

autumn acorn
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i'll go for the chonker

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2 kinds?

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i'll look at those

quaint brook
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The difference is mainly in skin tones and eyes for the cats and lalas

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Auras have different color scales also

autumn acorn
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i think

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i'l have to go w the lizard person

outer mural
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this is not the room for this

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HOWEVER

autumn acorn
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i'll hop there then

outer mural
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decide ur race in there instead

tired rover
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Does anyone know a way to export your FC member list? Maybe from Lodestone..

fast talon
open rivet
manic rune
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in how many hours does fanfest tome event end?

obsidian patio
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June 14, 2021 at 7:59 a.m. (PDT)

open rivet
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in like 5 1/2 hrs (timezones are hard)

outer mural
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oh shit

manic rune
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mmkay thanks

open rivet
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basically on daily reset as far as I can tell?

lethal cape
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Which one should theoretically deal more dmg? 😮
I seem to deal around 500 more dps with the Relic for some weird reason even though there's a clear stat difference

Is it because of the +477 CH on the relic that it deals more dmg?

void venture
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how do i unlock eden savage

faint flare
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+10 weapon damage is EXTREMELY EXTREMELY EXTREMELY significant

lethal cape
faint flare
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Yeah it has piety but that's literally 10 weapon damage

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5mins is too short

void venture
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i dont see the npc

faint flare
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Need at least 10-16+

lethal cape
glossy flare
glossy flare
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after each tier (4 raids per tier) you can do a new quest for the corresponding savage tier

void venture
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so to start

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i need to go mord souq?

glossy flare
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did you already start the questline for the normal raids?

void venture
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nopes

faint flare
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Well first finish Base shadowbringers

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You don't see any of the vendors so you haven't finish shadowbringers

glossy flare
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Yes, 5.0 is a requirement

void venture
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im at 5.4

glossy flare
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alright, then go to the Crystarium

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there will be a bluequest called "In the Middle of Nowhere"

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that starts the raid questline

void venture
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alright thanks!

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how long does it take for people to get cryluker gear full set?

patent citrus
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wrong ss šŸ˜‚ seems I don't have it

opaque fiber
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Is edenmorn gear the same as augmented cryplurker in stats?

faint flare
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Not in substats

patent citrus
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I keep posting wrong ss!!

faint flare
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Equal main stats, different substats

opaque fiber
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I see

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Ok ty

faint flare
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Which is why BiS lists are a mix of both

void venture
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anyone got example for BIS for summoner?

faint flare
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!faq smnbis

glossy flare
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check here

zinc orbitBOT
void venture
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alright

gusty island
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is there a simple introduction to macros, preferably specifically made for beginners?

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never used any so i dont know the uses and such

patent citrus
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like for the raids? or?

gusty island
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anything really

faint flare
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Primarily for crafting/Ui stuff

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They're trash for combat

fast talon
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there are only a handful of macros that people use in combat

limpid glacier
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is there a way to show procs in the middle of the screen somehow?

gusty island
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Is there a place/resource I can read about these macros?

faint flare
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Put the proc skills in a seperate hotbar and have it floating nearby

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And hide unused slots

glossy flare
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Unless you want certain pieces for glam

limpid glacier
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that'd work, thanks

patent citrus
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most magic dps cryptlurker are spell speeds as well and should be avoided by Summoner

plucky gale
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hello, of all the skills WHM has, are there any I probably would/should never use?

glossy flare
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not really

patent citrus
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cure maybe?

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only for lower level roulette

glossy flare
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Cure gets replaced at some point

faint flare
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Fluid aura and repose

patent citrus
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oh right repose as well

faint flare
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Cure 1 gets outdated but needed for when you're synced

plucky gale
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how about rescue?

glossy flare
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no, that's good

faint flare
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Useful in the right hands

glossy flare
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you can correct other people's mistakes with it

faint flare
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I've saved many people with it

fast talon
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rescue is useful for helping others out

also for trolling people but do that only with friends

patent citrus
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usually use it when someone is outside the asylum

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and you just want them inside it

glossy flare
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chances are they'll walk out again anyway šŸ˜„

fast talon
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everybody gets one. if they walk out you can leave them to die

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jk

faint flare
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Then they have chosen death

limpid glacier
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where can I attend grand company quests? the poeple in the company hall don't seem to have quests

glossy flare
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may need to rank up first for certain quests

plucky gale
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also what would proper usage of surecast be? only just finished Heavensward but I don't think i've ever used it

faint flare
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It's anti knockback

glossy flare
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you can negate movement effects with it

faint flare
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Use when knockbacks happen

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Happens much more than people think

glossy flare
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the wording is just slightly different for casters to make it clear that cast times are also not interrupted

faint flare
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I love negating BOTH knockbacks from Nier last boss Pillar falls

glossy flare
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but it essentially lets you cast more often

untold vine
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For craftings, do you need to fully craft the items on the lower level to unlock some recipes on the higher levels ?

faint flare
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No

fast talon
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crafting is only ever locked behind player level and master recipes

untold vine
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Ahh i see, thank you !

plucky gale
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thank you, just redoing my hotbars and keybinds and hoping i have everything i need somewhere on them

tired rover
zinc orbitBOT
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Automated Message: A Friendly Moogle Reminder

This channel is for new or returning players to ask questions about Final Fantasy XIV. As a reminder this channel is a troll free and an off-topic free zone. For general discussion please use #ffxiv-discussion or #novice-network. @New Player Mentor are available to help in this channel. Thank-You, Kupo!

latent quest
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I am in the progress of creating my account and about to start the free trial game. Does it make sense to primarily play Thamaturge but also level up Conjurer if parties need a healer or is it not something I should worry about until I get further into the game?

oak ice
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If you want to play BLM it's perfectly fine to only play BLM, parties will always need healers anyway

midnight tinsel
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If you want short queue times

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For dungeons

vital ruin
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can you change your job when you're in feast

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like the other pvp variations

midnight tinsel
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Having a healer on hand is great

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Healer basically gets instant invites

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While dps sometimes wait 10 minutes

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If your on a preferred server its even easier

latent quest
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What are the preferred servers? (Playing in Europe)

obsidian patio
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!preferred chaos

zinc orbitBOT
obsidian patio
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!preferred light

zinc orbitBOT
lethal cape
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How do you farm Bozjan Clusters?
Do you just run around and do fates/engagements or...?

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I'm trying to gain Mettle and farm some memory of the dying at the same time and people recommended Cluster Farms but I'm not really sure what that is

vital ruin
alpine shadow
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surecast early enough

agile laurel
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you have to be SO close to the first pillar fall

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like, you'd think that you're too late, but you need to anti kb so close to the first pillar falling

woven token
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Clusters come from magitek mobs, doesn't really gel with a mettle farm but its great for the memories. You literally just group them up and kill.
Can get fancy and do all 3 zones at once with coordinating groups

slow isle
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They glow from what I remember.

agile laurel
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are they not the same as the entire rest of the set?

silent pike
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Scaevan gloves

agile laurel
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!iglam scaevan gloves of maiming

zinc orbitBOT
slow isle
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Ok. I just can’t check right now

agile laurel
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Maiming, stupid bot

faint flare
void venture
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the drops from normal eden gate raid worth getting?

faint flare
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It's pretty precise

agile laurel
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!iglam scaevan gauntlets of maiming

zinc orbitBOT
agile laurel
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there you go

faint flare
void venture
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ah i see

leaden ginkgo
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how people farmed 1m mgp in 4 days

faint flare
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!faq mgpguide

zinc orbitBOT
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MGP Guide

/

leaden ginkgo
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thanks

hard parrot
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What’s the deadline for the fashion report again? Tonight?

faint flare
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Weekly reset

finite hare
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Hey guys, newbie question there, I'm struggling to unlock my first Dungeon for the Duty Finder, there's simply no quest, and my story line is leading me to another zone already, what am I missing? Thanks in advance

faint flare
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The story takes you to the firdt dungeon

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You will go to the other cities first

leaden ginkgo
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but still thats not enough for 1m mgp in 4 days

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how so

obsidian patio
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you grind it

leaden ginkgo
limpid glacier
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are the blue quests important

obsidian patio
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the botany/mining minigames are pretty decent MGP if you get really good at them

faint flare
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Yes

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They unlock SOMETHING

obsidian patio
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But people probably took advantage of the moogle tomestone event since one of the turn-in options is 50k MGP for 60 tomes

finite hare
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@faint flare ahh so I keep playing despite the travelling to other zones, thanks!

faint flare
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The story locks literally everything

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Just keep going

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Your level means nothing

patent citrus
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just noticed there's a new channel below this one

faint flare
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No memeing in here

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Serious only

green grail
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one is questions, other is general discussion

patent citrus
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hmm I thought it's always been like that

alpine shadow
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you can read the channel description

patent citrus
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ok story

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understood, ty ty

faint flare
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You can fuck around and meme on the other

primal ermine
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wait when did the new channel happen?

alpine shadow
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today

faint flare
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While we slept

alpine shadow
opaque fiber
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Is Shb relic as long as eureka relic?

faint flare
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No

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Ranking in bojza is much faster than elemental levels

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And you only "need" rank 10 to get all the relic steps, which is like 8 hours

opaque fiber
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Hmm how long would it be for the 535 relic?

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oh

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Nvm just saw you typed it facepalm

faint flare
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Only real time consuming step is the DR step cause people are dumb and don't use dps increasing stuff

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Rest aren't that bad

opaque fiber
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What's DR?

faint flare
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Delerum

opaque fiber
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Oh

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The BA like thing?

faint flare
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Kinda basically

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The 24man raid attached to the bojzan stuff

opaque fiber
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Ok ty

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iirc the chaos DC has a nice discord for this stuff

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Not sure if they do this one tho

void venture
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to get edenmorn gear do i need to get edenmete gear first?

manic rune
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edenmorn is savage loot

opaque fiber
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Oh, never knew about this

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I was in Late Night discord

manic rune
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you need to clear all floors of eden's promise savage to get a full edenmorn gearset

faint flare
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Saw it on reddit earlier

opaque fiber
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Ok ty!

leaden ginkgo
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how many time left until reset

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weekly

faint flare
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!weekly

zinc orbitBOT
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Tick, Tock, Kupo!
Time Until Weekly Reset:

20 hours, 57 minutes, 39 seconds

leaden ginkgo
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Thanks

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question does me doing the main quest will get me to lvl50 ?

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is that the efficient way

faint flare
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It carries you through the whole game

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It's mandatory to do anyway

leaden ginkgo
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oh cool

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I like i just hate reading

shut panther
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@lethal cape how were you testing your dps between the two weapons?

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oh that was awhile ago

scenic axle
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Question - What exactly does TPS mean in E12S runs? Is it some kinda strat? Because I haven't found much info about it.

faint flare
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Thoughts per second strat

vestal needle
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Does aether or primal have a bigger population then crystal?

faint flare
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TPS was one of the world first raid groups

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And it's using the strat they used for basic relativity

manic rune
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TPS cleared it early so everyone uses their strat bc it works

scenic axle
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Any guide explaining what it is?

faint flare
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I need to check what it is

gusty island
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Is there a way to close chat again in a cutscene when you've opened it?

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Seemed to have worked during one but can't do it in the one I'm watching rn

barren granite
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QQ ... my enemny list has dissapeared. Is there a key shortcut to make it reappear ?

faint flare
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Oh it's the braindead Basic strat

faint flare
manic rune
zealous cradle
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Hey guys, im currently saving my screenshot as PNG file but the quality is still really bad. Does it come out grainy always :(? Are there any ways i can save high quality screenshots

manic rune
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screenshots are dependent on your game resolution iirc

subtle obsidian
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i want to redeem the referral code of a friend. i'm currently on a free trial account and don't have the option. do i need to first buy the game to enter the code? i read somewhere that you can't redeem the code once you're subscribed.

manic rune
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you need to buy the game yes

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once you buy the game you get 30 free days

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after that you need to subscribe

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so you would enter the code during those 30 days

subtle obsidian
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ok, ty

zealous cradle
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Oh hmm, let me try to up the resolution

barren granite
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ugh what a pain .. had it hidden in the HUD

gusty island
zealous cradle
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Hmm dang, its still horrible resolution after upping to 1440p in game resolution 😦

manic rune
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is your monitor 1440p?

clever bane
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So,I cant find Sanson to start the next chain of Bard quest

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Did I skip a step?

green grail
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which level quest are you looking for and where are you in the MSQ

warm snow
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And if its the quest past a level cap you need to actually hit the next expansion

clever bane
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Im in heavensward

warm snow
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So no 51+ brd quests til you hit hw

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No 61+ til you hit sb

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Etc

clever bane
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and im looking to start the Heavenward bard class quest

faint flare
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Your next job quest is under the main scenario tracker

warm snow
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Just click the quest below your msq hud element

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It will literally show you the exact location on a map

clever bane
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there's nothing

warm snow
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Then you're up to date

faint flare
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Then you don't meet the requirements for the next

warm snow
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What level quest are you looking for?

clever bane
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The first one from sanson

warm snow
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LEVEL

clever bane
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52

faint flare
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And you have access to Ishgard?

warm snow
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And how do you know you're in heavensward, have you actually entered ishgard?

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Cuz just finishing base arr isn't starting heavensward

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You have to go through allllll the arr patch content first

magic light
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what's the best lvl 50 crafter gear

faint flare
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Which is 80 quests after Ultimate weapon

magic light
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gc gear?

clever bane
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I did both of the lvl 50 quest

leaden ginkgo
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....so I'm trying to figure this out but

warm snow
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Nope

clever bane
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yea,Im not sure why he isnt appearing

warm snow
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You only did one of the level 50 quests

leaden ginkgo
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are the Beast tribe quests meant for when you've finished MSQ and other content and have time to spare?

warm snow
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Relic quest doesn't count

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There should be a level 50quest to start the hw job quests

clever bane
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where

cunning loom
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you have your MSQ tracker in the top left

faint flare
cunning loom
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is there no smaller quest underneath it?

leaden ginkgo
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because I'm not sure if it's worth it to keep travelling to the far off areas everyday tbh

faint flare
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They take like 2 mins to do

leaden ginkgo
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it costs money/time to get there so

clever bane
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Oh you know what

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there is one,

faint flare
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That's what we were talking about

cunning loom
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you should probably do that then

clever bane
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]I'm so fucking dumb

warm snow
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Yeah we mentioned that earlier

faint flare
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Your job quests show under the main scenario tracker

warm snow
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It'll always list your currently available job quest there

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If there is one

leaden ginkgo
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clicking them gives you a general idea of where the quest giver is

languid creek
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Is a timeworn leather map worth using or selling? It's on market for 50k but I'm not sure if there are crafting mats locked behind it like the zonurskins were

clever bane
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Ok,thanks for the help.I cant believe I didnt see it

warm snow
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Who knows you might get a rare drop like the mist beard mask

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Idk if that's actually in the leather map loot pool ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ

shut panther
pearl mesa
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Pageantry tomestones vanish at reset today, right?

faint flare
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Yes, at least the turn ins

warm snow
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No

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At weekly reset

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Which is different from daily reset

faint flare
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!reset

zinc orbitBOT
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Tick, Tock, Kupo!
Daily Reset

3 hours, 18 minutes, 42 seconds

Grand Company Reset

8 hours, 18 minutes, 42 seconds

Weekly Reset

20 hours, 18 minutes, 42 seconds

Fashion Report Theme Resets

20 hours, 18 minutes, 42 seconds

Jumbo Cactpot NA

5 days, 14 hours, 18 minutes, 42 seconds

Jumbo Cactpot EU

5 days, 8 hours, 18 minutes, 42 seconds

Jumbo Cactpot JP

5 days, 1 hour, 18 minutes, 42 seconds

Time Until Moogle Treasure Trove - Pageantry Ends

3 hours, 18 minutes, 42 seconds

Time Until Endwalker Launches

157 days, 20 hours, 18 minutes, 42 seconds

faint flare
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It ends in 3 hours

warm snow
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Wait daily

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Shit

faint flare
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So spend now

warm snow
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Oh wait I already bought everything ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ

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And I cba getting some extras just for mgp

shut panther
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Is stone sky sea synced?

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Item level wise

mild ermine
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Does Skybuilder's Yew Log not exist in the Diadem or something?

warm snow
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Not anymore

mild ermine
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Wh-

warm snow
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It's fucking old

mild ermine
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Noooooooooooooooo

warm snow
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We've moved on to the grade 4 materials

mild ermine
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So they get rid of the old ones? Man

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Crap

warm snow
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Yeah

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There used to be combat in the diadem too

mild ermine
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I know there's just the cannon now right

warm snow
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Yeah

shut panther
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Why do you need them?

mild ermine
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So then what level can I start spamming ishgard for levels?

faint flare
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20

leaden ginkgo
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can i finish the gilding the bilious quest
aurum vale duty finder unsync

faint flare
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You do grade 4 receipes

shut panther
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Look at the grade 4 recipes

mild ermine
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Oh am I doing it wrong?

shut panther
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Grade is a bit misleading, they're not better, they're just newer

faint flare
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You're looking at the wrong receipes

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Click phase/grade 4

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Those are the ones you can make

warm snow
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As we were rebuilding the firmament we went through multiple phases

mild ermine
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Ohhh okay thank you, I knew I must have been doing something wrong. Guess I'm just brain melting from this stuff.

warm snow
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We're done now so the final phase: using grade 4 materials is just staying now

shut panther
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The old recipes exist to confuse new players burn old materials

mild ermine
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Yeah it confused the heck out of me

warm snow
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!quest gilding the billious

zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
clear garden
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Are there any recommendations on what specialist crafters to pick?

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I have everything at 80 now.

warm snow
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No

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You can change them later too

tribal apex
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Leveling a job 30 to 50. What’s a good zones to do side quests in while waiting for leveling roulette

faint flare
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Whatever you want. It'd primarily a stat boost

clear garden
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I saw they were limited to change, though, is why I asked.

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Alright, thanks!

warm snow
faint flare
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3 times a week

warm snow
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Also you should only do leveling roulette once a day

leaden ginkgo
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how can i use screenshot
it will screenshot the whole screen

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i cant use programs

warm snow
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Scroll lock to hide your hud

leaden ginkgo
warm snow
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Find the equivalent keybind if you're on console

leaden ginkgo
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i mean like i want to use lightshout

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inside the game

warm snow
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Tf is that

leaden ginkgo
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a screenshot program

warm snow
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Your program probably has cropping tools idk

zealous cradle
leaden ginkgo
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I cant use Any screenshots programs inside the game

halcyon tulip
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Theres always gpose

upper cove
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Sorry whats the !blmlevelling command?

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I couldn't get it work

manic rune
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ponder hmm i'm not sure why you get low quality screencaps

warm snow
manic rune
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!faq blmleveling

zinc orbitBOT
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THM/BLM leveling rotations
warm snow
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And why it's not working with ff14

leaden ginkgo
upper cove
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Thanks! @manic rune

leaden ginkgo
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ill try search for it

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couldn't find it here

shut panther
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I think FFXIV captures the print screen button

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Try changing the hotkey

leaden ginkgo
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i tried but nothing changed

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before i can use it but now i cant

shut panther
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Then I got nothing

compact timber
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are tome items lost after this event

odd plank
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why is my glamour plate doing this for my weapon? wont let me glamour it

leaden ginkgo
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thanks

left lantern
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What was it i needed to buy once i got a new plot of land

subtle obsidian
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are my layouts and keybinds saved serverside? or do i need to redo them, when i play on another pc?

wispy basalt
warm snow
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And you have to match job restrictiobs

halcyon tulip
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Correct job and equip level?

warm snow
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So you can't make a smn book look like a sch book

odd plank
faint flare
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Can't glamour low level items with higher level gear

odd plank
faint flare
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You need a higher leval weapon

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To use that one as glamour

warm snow
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You have to be applying that to a smn book of item level 95 or higher

odd plank
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oooh i see

faint flare
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Basically go get your ironworks weapon

odd plank
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ok tyvm

high otter
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Can I somehow move or fade pop-up description window when I hover the cursor over something? It blocks the item that I target and I can't see anymore where to move the cursor next up or down the list

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Like this

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I can't see the list under the pop-up

green grail
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yes, should be in UI settings as "pop-up help"

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you can change it to fixed in bottom left or bottom right corner

tribal apex
warm snow
warped nest
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!faq altlvlguide

zinc orbitBOT
warped nest
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But what Kat said is pretty much it

lethal cape
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Probably crit hit difference or something

celest snow
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which one is more worth to buy for irregular tomestone of pageantry, the MGP Platinum Card which grants you 50 000 mgp or the Disembodied Head Resonator mount?

odd plank
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should i start my relic weapon quests at 50?

warm snow
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Just buy an augmented ironworks weapon asap

odd plank
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where do i do that

warm snow
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Relics are grindy weapons that end up being the best weapon of a given expansion. But they're, again, really grindy. The arr relics being probably THE WORST in this game so far

odd plank
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but i have to start the level 50 relic quest line to get the best relic end game?

warm snow
warm snow
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And even then only a little bit better than augmented ironworks

untold surge
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Relic weapons are for good looks, not for stats.

odd plank
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i see i see

warm snow
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Hell arr relics are also a pain to even make good since they use materia to customize their stats and 1-4 materia are a pain to get

cunning loom
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b o o k s

odd plank
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so how do you get the best end game gear currently

cunning loom
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by far the most painful relic step

warm snow
restive sun
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Does Puglist get fun?

warm snow
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So the augmented ironworks gear I told you about is pretty much the best gear you can get in arr

open coral
restive sun
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Compare is to mystic out of bdo

open coral
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Some people find MNK fun.

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Some people do not.

restive sun
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I like fast engaging combat

open coral
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I never played BDO, so I can't make a comparison there.

warm snow
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Well it's got the fastest gcd eventually iirc

open coral
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But I don't know if I, personally, would call MNK's playstyle "fast" or "engaging".

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It's got the most positionals of any melee dps.

warm snow
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But you'll never truly be rid of the 2.5s gcd if that's what's bothering you

open coral
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But it's still largely a 1-2-3 combo class.

restive sun
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Yeah I was gonna ask can you make the gcd lower with stats

open coral
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A little, but not much.

warm snow
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Yeah but at best you'll cap out at around 2s

open coral
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And often you don't want to for the sake of weaves.

proud willow
cunning loom
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maybe try out a job that has a lot of weaves

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e.g. MCH, NIN

restive sun
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yeah I might

odd plank
open coral
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No, relics are self-contained within each expansion.

cunning loom
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nope, each expansion has their own set of shiny relics

open coral
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Once the expansion is over, the relic is just really time-intensive glamour.

late lintel
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Is WHM easier to play that AST? I leveled my AST to 80 and loved it

odd plank
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oh i see

open coral
untold surge
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Yes, WHM is a lot more streamlined overall.

late lintel
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Is their dps ok? Cost ast dps is so bad lol

open coral
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Yes. WHM dps is fine.

stray mason
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Is there a way to hide equipped earrings?

restive sun
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also I am the highest level on my Puglist if I were to level a class now as I go through MSQ will that be a waste of xp since you get more the higher your main one is?

late lintel
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Nice ill give it a go thr ARR relics look nice for WhM

proud willow
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you can glamour them into the Emperor's New Earring

worldly ermine
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glamour over emperor's new earrings

proud willow
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which has no visible model

cunning loom
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WHM's arr relic is great

open coral
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You're level 80 as a PUG?

warm snow
restive sun
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noo

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I am at my highest with pug

cunning loom
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PGL is just their highest level char i'm guessing

restive sun
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but if I were to change to a different job would that be a waste of time to do so now

late lintel
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Ahh ok @warm snow trying kill stuff in shb MSQ was torture on it lol though gravity and regen helped alot

open coral
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Oh. PUG is your highest level class? That's normal. If you're on a preferred server, it's recommended to pick up a second class to level on the side so you don't end up wasting xp towards the end of the MSQ.

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What level is your MSQ at, and what level are you as PUG?

restive sun
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I am level 26 atm on Pug MSQ I just did the lord of Inferno

open coral
cunning loom
restive sun
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How do I check?

cunning loom
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it'd be a buff called road to 70

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if you don't have it then that's a no

restive sun
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Oh no buffs

open coral
cunning loom
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should be 24?

open coral
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So you're only 6 levels ahead of MSQ.

cunning loom
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or was that the second one, i forget

open coral
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Lord of the Inferno is before you join a GC. You join a GC at 20 MSQ

cunning loom
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ah

restive sun
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I think so

left whale
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so.. i see classes like the dancers and rdm etc etc
seem to get class gear from their story
do dark knights and machinists not get that stuff?

cunning loom
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it doesn't seem like it'd be a problem levelling up a second job then

restive sun
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I have picked up all the jobs I could just incaser

cunning loom
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with brand-new ring from hall of the novice and armoury bonus from having a higher levle character, you can get it levelled up relatively quickly

open coral
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You get a chest with class gear upon completing the 50/60/70 job quests.

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For non ARR jobs.

left whale
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remember receiving that, i do not hmm
my drk still dressed like a hobo

restive sun
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I do like that yellow outfit PUG/MNK get

open coral
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HW jobs may not get one at 50.

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But they definitely get them at 60/70