#questions-and-help

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glossy flare
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since parsing is technically illegal

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Also if they notice you do something wrong and then proceed to flame you... fuck them

patent citrus
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yeah, usually the person indicate if the purpose of the PF is parsing

glossy flare
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If they give you advice that is great

robust notch
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Nah, they'll most likely give advice. And besides, you can see your own dps compared to others in your party by checking the enmity bars next to your names.

glossy flare
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but if they are dicks about it you don't want those people

radiant plank
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the gist is you want optimal rotation in high level content cuz less time spent on boss is less potential wiping?

glossy flare
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And yeah, most people usually give you advice

patent citrus
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if it's just farming party, as long as it's clear it doesn't matter

proud willow
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in high level content, there is an enrage timer

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after the last phase, the boss does an attack that just kills everyone

glossy flare
cedar verge
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Just straight up die

radiant plank
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ohh

patent citrus
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parsing also sometimes placed you in a very high risk positioning so parsing doesn't mean it became easier o_o

cedar verge
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Also
There's Extreme and savage content

proud willow
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so even if you get to the point where the party survives the whole fight without a wipe, it's still a loss at the end if not enough damage was done

radiant plank
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what's the earliest boss with an enrage?

cedar verge
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Alex? I guess

patent citrus
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just don't join a parsing party and you will be fine

glossy flare
radiant plank
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not there yet

glossy flare
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endgame content does not necessarily refer to lvl 80 (though it usually does)

robust notch
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Tbh, you want to personally strive to optimise your rotation no matter the content you're doing. Doesn't mean it needs to be perfect, but you can always play better. Playing better means that dungeon runs go by faster, and that they're most likely easier to run through. @radiant plank

glossy flare
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It refers to Extreme and Savage difficulty content

proud willow
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technically Ultima in Prae owocarby

radiant plank
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alex ok, i'll see when i get there

cedar verge
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Alexander savage is endgame

green grail
cedar verge
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Cause
Well
Its hard

green grail
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basically all high end endgame

glossy flare
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Alexander normal does not have enrage timers mind you

patent citrus
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don't think even Alex has high DPS check.. but you do need to play your class properly...

glossy flare
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only savage does

cedar verge
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Yea i was thinking savage, mb

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Althoutht its more of a countdown then an enrage

patent citrus
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just don't join a parsing party when you just want clear...

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it usually clearly states before you enter the party finder

radiant plank
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i guess i just had a misconception about ppl being dps obsessed because i didn't know about enrage

cedar verge
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Now i feel dump to ask
Whats parsing

glossy flare
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I mean... some people are dps obsessed

glossy flare
cedar verge
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Yea there are some very dedicated

pulsar escarp
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mostly samurai tbh

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but everyone else too

cedar verge
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i wanted to say that but i felt it was rude, thanks for reading my mind

pulsar escarp
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for sam it actually... matters because that's all they have

leaden ginkgo
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other than roulettes how can i make gil i have never been above 500k and i’m literally in savage prog now been playing for years

pulsar escarp
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lol

whole wasp
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most specfically, it records information from the battle chat window

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and organizes it into usable data

cedar verge
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I see

pulsar escarp
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I think one good thing about parsing though is that you can shove it into xivanalysis

glossy flare
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There are sites like fflogs where you then can collect that data for varies kinds of analysis

whole wasp
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so you can roughly see how good/bad you and everybody in the party is doing in whatever content you are doing

pulsar escarp
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which helps myself quite a bit

leaden ginkgo
pulsar escarp
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and yeah, it's sometimes reassuring seeing how well you do compared to others

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or the opposite. but then you know you should improve

leaden ginkgo
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leveling crafters + gathered buying mats and such

pulsar escarp
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also though, parsing doesn't take equipment level into account so you're pitted against people with BiS as well

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so ngl it doesn't matter till you're bis

glossy flare
cedar verge
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I have this paradox that i love that
I want to do Extreme content, i feel ready for it
But i can't cause without party finder is just straight up pain

pulsar escarp
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is it?

glossy flare
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Yes

pulsar escarp
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have you uh, used it?

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half the time it's alright for me

whole wasp
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depends on your DC really

glossy flare
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I mean there is always the chance for some weird random people but sure, it usually works out

pulsar escarp
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... crystal

whole wasp
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EU DCs are smaller than NA DCs

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there are just less people

pulsar escarp
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there is a higher population of people who like to do higher level content there though right?

whole wasp
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not necessarily

patent citrus
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I think EU was nice, I never experienced NA

whole wasp
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remember that EU has only one DC back in SB

pulsar escarp
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NA's nice, you just get some weirdos

patent citrus
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i'm talking about Light.. but yeah If you can't speak FR but roll on moggle well...

pulsar escarp
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only issue you might face is one clear/party disband for small reason

cedar verge
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@patent citrus thats my personal nightmare yep

whole wasp
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Chaos + Light together is probably the size of just 1 NA DC

pulsar escarp
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I mean NA dcs are the most populated because people outside NA also jump on it too

glossy flare
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(like my german ass)

pulsar escarp
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speaking english = playing xiv well

glossy flare
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Not what I meant but fair 😄

patent citrus
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only in NA xD

pulsar escarp
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HA

cedar verge
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I once tried to do, what was it, Ramu Extreme
We wiped 7 times not even going to 50% and the party leader just straight up rage quitted

whole wasp
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french players can be good but most french players i met just refuse to speak english

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and thats infuriating

patent citrus
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cause they all speaking one language

glossy flare
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I meant that the refusal to communicate is annoying more often than not

pulsar escarp
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I mean, ramuh is .. why ramuh ex

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synced?

cedar verge
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There were 4 sprouts

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Cause i did not know
Nop.
Party finder.

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I was young and reckless

pulsar escarp
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either way it's pretty pointless to do ramuh ex, but ragequitting happens

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esp if it's blind prog or some shit

cedar verge
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Yea thats why i really do not like my server
I play on Moogle

pulsar escarp
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half the people haven't watched anything and just gone in

cedar verge
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To be fair
I just wanted the cool Thunderclaps

pulsar escarp
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get to 80 and solo him! def possible

cedar verge
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But now i know the horror

pulsar escarp
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it's why clear parties often have smth like 'watch video beforehand' though

cedar verge
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Yea it sucks

pulsar escarp
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no no it doesn't suck

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watching a vid legit makes it all faster

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so everything isn't as painful as it might be

cedar verge
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Nono ,I mean
It sucks getting into a blind party

pulsar escarp
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oHHH yeah

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usually they don't say anything either

cedar verge
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I watch guides for every hard content i have to go into, so im always prepared

pulsar escarp
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which is the problem

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you just notice one guy's making a lot of mistakes

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pretty common in pf

leaden ginkgo
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When it comes to buying a house, do you need to complete the MSQ up to a certain point (after already unlocking the residential areas)?

cedar verge
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I tried another time
I set into a 25 minutes of the party leader explaining the whole thing, in french

pulsar escarp
pulsar escarp
cedar verge
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I swear finding englisg people is low key hard

pulsar escarp
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yeah

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I don't think uk is into mmos lol

patent citrus
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oh I thought you are talking about Dia Ex or something like that

pulsar escarp
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so most english speakers are prolly just.... english speaking middle europeans

patent citrus
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for something like Ramuh Ex, You'll need people with specific knowledge and there are only few of them..

pulsar escarp
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yeah lol

cedar verge
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And it sucks when
You know
You wanna find a good FC , a static, people's to play with

pulsar escarp
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FCs and statics are normally different

patent citrus
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ah yeh, that's a problem as well since moggle is mostly FR FC

pulsar escarp
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you tried community finder?

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yeah that's prolly an issue

patent citrus
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maybe you could find where the EN FC is?

warm snow
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General rule of thumb: you have a low chance of beating any extreme on duty finder, use party finder or just unsync it

pulsar escarp
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^^^

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uh, unless it's current content

warm snow
zinc orbitBOT
pulsar escarp
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OH wait

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yeah

cedar verge
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Yea i find it out the hard way

pulsar escarp
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party finder

cedar verge
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Oh hey thanks

warm snow
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We also have recruitment channels here

pulsar escarp
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wait, how would you queue into ramuh ex in DF

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holy

cedar verge
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Oh also
To be fair
Wanna know the funny part

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Im on free trial

patent citrus
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pretty sure mentor roulette people got that sometimes haha

warm snow
pulsar escarp
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I think if mentor roulette gives you it

cedar verge
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So, you know, that doesn't help either way

warm snow
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Mentor roulette can get extremes

pulsar escarp
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it's your responsibility as a mentor to tell them to use PF/unsync it in future LMAO

warm snow
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No one likes that

pulsar escarp
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hey, best you got

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legit who in this day and age learns ramuh ex synced.. I mean. I'm sure there are but...

patent citrus
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I learned it cause well mentor roulette haha

pulsar escarp
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LMAO

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very good mentor

warm snow
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I pulled it off once when I was a dumb sprout

patent citrus
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the mechanics aren't hard cause it's just extreme, but yeah

cedar verge
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Oh but that is not an issue really
The moment i get premium i can just buy the sword i want from the market

warm snow
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It was a terrible experience

pulsar escarp
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I just threw myself at it unsynced

whole wasp
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sometimes it works out because you get sprout that listen

pulsar escarp
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last week

patent citrus
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for a sprout who are used to doing normal stuff, it's a bit of a shock o_o

pulsar escarp
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I forgot why I did it though

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haha

whole wasp
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sometimes it all goes to shit because the sprout never listens

pulsar escarp
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shock -

patent citrus
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get it? shock ramuh

cedar verge
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The issue is, that this set the stage for most of hard content

pulsar escarp
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well...

whole wasp
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honestly, most mentors just left if they get it

pulsar escarp
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you can just do other EXs without doing original ones

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hell, my first EX was hades

cedar verge
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The moment i became "good" i just deleted the sprout from my name

warm snow
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Most hard content is only run during its expansion

cedar verge
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Cause i kept getting judged by it

pulsar escarp
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well. technically I unsynced bismark and ravana w a friend

warm snow
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Outside that most people just unsync the content

pulsar escarp
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but still

cedar verge
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"I know your a sprout but.."

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I was like
first of all, what the fuck

pulsar escarp
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I mean I'd still advise keeping it

patent citrus
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sprout is a privilege o_o noone should harass you for that

pulsar escarp
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I had a sprout until holmnister

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it worked well for me

warm snow
cedar verge
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I got harrased plenty of time

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Oh sorry yea

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My bad

pulsar escarp
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maybe it's a moogle thing

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wintry trench
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Guys was thinking of getting this game

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Is it worth it?

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Compared to WoW

pulsar escarp
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sure but do free trial first

wintry trench
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Cause I play wow

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XD

pulsar escarp
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and make sure you read up a bit

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because we have some differences to WoW so assuming it's the same is a mistake

whole wasp
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just do the FT. the 2.5 seconds GCD might melt your brain at first but it gets more hectic later

wintry trench
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I’m asking cause game seems like p2w

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Not to mention it already has to be paid to play lol

pulsar escarp
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absolutely not haha

wintry trench
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From what i saw you can buy gear for money

pulsar escarp
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it's only pay to play

wintry trench
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So ye

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-.-

pulsar escarp
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you can only buy cosmetic gear

green grail
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it's only cosmetics

pulsar escarp
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they're worthless as equipment

green grail
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they're almost all level 1

warm snow
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It's pay to win in that increased level caps and better gear are locked behind paid expansions

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That's about it

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You can also buy level skips but those don't include gear

pulsar escarp
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I mean. to progress the game in general, it's pay to play basically

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don't do that

wintry trench
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So you saying that the mog station which is what i read

pulsar escarp
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unless you know the game

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they're called 'optional items' for a reason basically

wintry trench
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Has seasonal and non seasonal cosmetics then?

warm snow
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Mog station is the real money store

whole wasp
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mog station optionals are purely cosmetics

pulsar escarp
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yeah that too

warm snow
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Cosmetics, mounts, level skips, dye

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That's about it

whole wasp
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seasonal cosmetics also come back as permamnent cosmetics eventually

pulsar escarp
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don't buy level skips if you don't know what you're doing

wintry trench
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And apparently marriage is also paid

warm snow
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Ye

wintry trench
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Kinda stupid

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XD

pulsar escarp
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only platinum option

whole wasp
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there is a free marriage option

warm snow
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For a fancy ceremony and shit

pulsar escarp
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you can have other ones for free

whole wasp
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different packages

pulsar escarp
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and I mena. getting married is. optional

green grail
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the paid options have just, more cosmetics

wintry trench
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So gold is free?

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Don’t think so

pulsar escarp
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money in game is mostly worthless

wintry trench
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Only standard is from what I see

pulsar escarp
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after a certain point

green grail
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ingame currency is ingame currency

whole wasp
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i think they mean gold package?

pulsar escarp
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oh package

wintry trench
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Ye

pulsar escarp
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yeah don't bother

warm snow
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You can't even sell cosmetics afaik

wintry trench
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Well if I’m playing the game I want the cosmetics so

pulsar escarp
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platinum's popular for marriage because you get a mount and stuff on top of it

green grail
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not the ones purchased for real money

wintry trench
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Well mainly the pets

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Guests get

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XD

pulsar escarp
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you can get minions and cosmetics

wintry trench
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And the mount

pulsar escarp
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without mogstation

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not the same ones

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but still good ones

green grail
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cash shop pets are like 5% of everything available for free ingame

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maybe less

wintry trench
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And the mounts?

pulsar escarp
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also

green grail
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same thing

wintry trench
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Cause I saw a witch broom which is paid

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XD

warm snow
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It was an old Halloween event mount iirc

wintry trench
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I doubt there is free one

pulsar escarp
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a major thing for mounts too is extreme trials, each mostly gives you a different mount so those are pretty desirable for players

wintry trench
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Then

pulsar escarp
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no broomstick but there's other stuff

whole wasp
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oh that one. it was the free halloween mount a long time ago

pulsar escarp
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usually these are free stuff from events but they get added to shop in future

wintry trench
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Also saw a fat cat mount

whole wasp
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seasonal free stuff gets recycled into the mogstation as payables usually a year later

wintry trench
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And a Xmas bear mount

green grail
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there isn't a free version of everything available in the cash shop, that would defeat the purpose

pulsar escarp
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you should see some in game mounts lmao

green grail
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if you want an item specifically from the cash shop then you'll have to pay

pulsar escarp
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mogstation is only some of it

green grail
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but there's more and better looking mounts available for free ingame

pulsar escarp
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^^^

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extreme mounts look cool as shit

green grail
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through achievements, drops, currency, etc

wintry trench
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From what I see so many mounts are just recolours lol

pulsar escarp
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even crafting lmao

wintry trench
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Mainly the chocobos

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XD

pulsar escarp
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chocobos are the default

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you can only recolour and accessorise them

warm snow
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You get your chocobo

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But through feed you can recolor it

pulsar escarp
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but you can use a different mount. chocobos can also fight along side you

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so that's mostly what they're used for

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only in overworld

lethal bison
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so 바이오 (bio?) for summoner is it a AOE? cause when i cast it it seems like it does more than 1 mob

wintry trench
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Wait i can feed a mount?

pulsar escarp
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so grinding fates and stuff

lethal bison
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oh no its my freaking carbunkle

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doing aoe stuff

pulsar escarp
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lmao yeah

green grail
wintry trench
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Is there an animation for it?

lethal bison
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how do i get it to attack jsut 1 thing

warm snow
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Chocobo is a companion

pulsar escarp
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do you want that?

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you have an aoe summon/single target summon in future

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but I guess you might be arcanist

analog gate
wintry trench
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Oh so I can only feed the chocobo mount?

proud willow
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Emerald Carbuncle's attacks are all AOE, you will get a single target pet later

warm snow
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You can't bring it into dungeons but you can use it as a mount or summon it fight along side you in the overworld

wintry trench
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Not the others too?

pulsar escarp
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summons normally have aoe skills by default

lethal bison
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yeah first carbunkle i have

pulsar escarp
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yeah, it'll have some aoe skills

lethal bison
pulsar escarp
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that are still viable on single target

warm snow
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Chocobo is special

lethal bison
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which one does single targble? XD

pulsar escarp
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those are just placing really

glossy flare
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none of those

pulsar escarp
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it's just going through it's skills

warm snow
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And how would you feed a motorcycle?

glossy flare
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emerald carbuncle has an aoe auto attack

pulsar escarp
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in future you get ifrit, which is single target focused

glossy flare
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nothing you can do about that

wintry trench
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Well I mean creature like mounts

pulsar escarp
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(though it also has aoe)

wintry trench
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Not bikes

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XD

lethal bison
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ooh so i just have to a rip and not die lmao

pulsar escarp
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but it's perfectly viable

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yeah, just keep applying your debuffs

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and attacking

glossy flare
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you could order your carby to not attack, period

pulsar escarp
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while your carbuncle also does work

green grail
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you can feed your chocobo because that's the only thing compatible with a chocobo stable

pulsar escarp
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Do NOT do that

leaden ginkgo
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Can free trial players join the novice network?

wintry trench
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What do minions do btw?

pulsar escarp
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follow you around lol

lethal bison
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this is the reason why i was asking which one was what cause some of these words i dont nkow lmao

pulsar escarp
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cosmetic

wintry trench
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No pet battles?

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Like on WoW

proud willow
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Free Trial players can be invited to Novice Network

pulsar escarp
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uh...

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yes actually

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you.. do have minion battles It hink.....

whole wasp
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Lords of Vermillion exists but its pretty niche

green grail
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there's a rts-type minigame with pets

pulsar escarp
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I've never touched it LMAO

lethal bison
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can free trial ppl reply to whispers?

pulsar escarp
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nope

whole wasp
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nope

lethal bison
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and because i'm studying korean lol

pulsar escarp
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you can tell them in say chat you're free trial

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if so

warm snow
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Fair enough

whole wasp
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you can also ask them to invite you into party

lethal bison
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but u can be in party with them tho

whole wasp
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and speak in party chat

vital ruin
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What's so special about the legacy chocobo

lethal bison
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yeah i told them im foreigner and they're like suprised pikachuface lmao

vital ruin
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Or legacy account

pulsar escarp
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I mean for this game seeing as it's an mmo maybe try and understand your skills before focusing on the language part

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because other people benefit from your understanding

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and lots of skills are already wordy even in english

whole wasp
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legacy accounts are accounts that were active back in 1.0
they have slightly cheaper sub prices

lethal bison
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well i kinda know how to play summoner

warm snow
lethal bison
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i dont have cheaper sub prices!!! and im from 1.0 >(

warm snow
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And get a lifetime discount on your sub

lethal bison
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wtf

pulsar escarp
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you what?!

vital ruin
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Ohh

whole wasp
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is your account from 1.0?

lethal bison
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yess

whole wasp
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huh

lethal bison
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and i got my legacy character on balmung

warm snow
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Did you have an active sub when 1.0 ended?

warped nest
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Did you paid for subscription then?

pulsar escarp
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huh....

wintry trench
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Hmm

lethal bison
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no cause it was always free

warm snow
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Or when it went free to pay for sub holders?

vital ruin
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I joined after Shb dropped

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Does that count

pulsar escarp
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no

proud willow
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I believe you need at least 3 months of 1.0 subbed time in order for it to count

pulsar escarp
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absolutely not

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lmao

wintry trench
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Well I need to think about it it’s just that this game seems to have more like housing minigames marriage XD

lethal bison
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oh when i played it was always free

vital ruin
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I c

wintry trench
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Better raids

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Etc

lethal bison
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i dropped off and came back during 1.0 lmao

wintry trench
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And not to mention that this game I can play all classes with one character only apparently

vital ruin
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What do you get beside the mount

warm snow
pulsar escarp
warm snow
lethal bison
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and im planning to do some POD with summoner to understand the skills better. but figure noone will party with me from lv 1.-14 haha

vital ruin
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Wait what

wintry trench
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And on WoW gotta make a new character for every damn class

warped nest
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Legacy? Lower sub price

vital ruin
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How does that even look like

wintry trench
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-.-

warm snow
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Oh and a modified arr story

pulsar escarp
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yeah plus we have good class balance

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and music

warm snow
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The smug is admittedly leaking through

wintry trench
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I don’t mind having different race for each class problem is WoW tries to be alt friendly

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But in the end it isn’t

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XD

whole wasp
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its the tattoo

pulsar escarp
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I mean no harm in trying

warped nest
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This is not a discussion channel btw

vital ruin
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Ohh

lethal bison
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theres 4 servers in the korean version. moogle, carbunkle, chocobo and tomberry. is moogle and carbunkle even a server in usa?

pulsar escarp
#

moogle is eu

vital ruin
#

The scion tat

pulsar escarp
#

it's more an archon tat. means they're smart

lethal bison
#

daddy look like a snacc

pulsar escarp
#

did exams or smth

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ALRIGHT

#

OUT

whole wasp
lethal bison
#

if u put thancred ina picture. i will comment

warped nest
#

Korea data center standalone

#

So it could reuse some of the names

pulsar escarp
#

all in all there's no harm in playing xiv through trial. a shocker might be how much RPG there is in the MMO lol

whole wasp
#

korean DC, china DC and the rest of the world are seperate yup

warped nest
#

But world names don't repeat for NA, EU, and JP data center

lethal bison
#

well yeah ofc lol

pulsar escarp
#

ahh

#

that's pretty interesting

lethal bison
#

iwas just wondering if those names existed in america servers

pulsar escarp
#

Guess there's enough people for personal stuff

#

then yeah we have moogle and stuff but they're in eu more

lethal bison
#

whats weird is hearing the ARR login music with the shadow bringers backgfround XD

pulsar escarp
#

crystal has stuff like balmung/diabolos/zalera/lamia etc.

wintry trench
#

Btw is there really worker classes? I know there is the normal ones the tank healer and dps

warped nest
#

Those names exist in the eu/na/JP data center

wintry trench
#

But I also saw like lumber

#

Fisher miner etc

lethal bison
#

funfact in korea you dont have to buy the expansions or base game. just pay sub and u have it all

pulsar escarp
#

fisher, culinarian, miner, botanist, alchemist, and I might be missing one

#

BLACKSMITH

#

ARMORER

wintry trench
#

Wait I can actually be a chef

pulsar escarp
#

it's advised to level them all together because they feed into eachother but it's all optional

wintry trench
#

In the game?

pulsar escarp
#

definitely

wintry trench
#

Cool I mean

green grail
wintry trench
#

Cook*

warped nest
#

Carpenter, blacksmith, armorer, goldsmith, Weaver, leather worker, alchemist, and Culinarian

#

That's all the crafters, known in game as disciple of hand

pulsar escarp
#

food is actually viable for making money from quests and also actually, smoked chicken sells well as high tier raid food for example

#

thanks homie

wintry trench
#

Do I rly cook as in animations?

warped nest
#

Miner, botanist, and Fisher are the gatherer (known in game as disciple of land)

wintry trench
#

On a stove or something?

pulsar escarp
#

yep lol

#

you kneel down

warped nest
#

You toss a tiny wok

pulsar escarp
#

on a little stove

#

you can also use a little knife

#

for some stuff

warm snow
#

Or a cutting board depending on the recipe

wintry trench
#

Omg so cute

pulsar escarp
#

I mean play free trial

#

you'll see crafters

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in main cities

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doing their thing

wintry trench
#

This looks like a simulation game in some things

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XD

pulsar escarp
#

oh nah the crafting is surprisingly. actually. qutie close to combat. smack buttons in order

warped nest
#

The crafters each have two unique crafting animations

green grail
warm snow
#

We're getting a stardew Valley island next expansion

pulsar escarp
#

we get farming >:)

wintry trench
#

Lol

warped nest
#

Black Smith, goldsmith, and armorer shares some animation

pulsar escarp
#

because they know our char has been through a lot. lmao

wintry trench
#

What’s next tending to animals?

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XD

pulsar escarp
#

but yeah beware there's lots of RPG in this mmo

lethal bison
#

OMG they dont give u traven tokens. i ran outta money lmfao

pulsar escarp
#

I mean, you have your chocobo which you can mess around with

warped nest
#

You can mark 3 aetheryte as favorite

#

Favorite aetheryte has reduced teleport cost

warm snow
#

Fair warning this is a final fantasy game first mmo second and EVERYTHING is locked behind story progression

lethal bison
#

really?

whole wasp
#

you can also just cast return. its 5 minute cd but its free

lethal bison
#

REALLY

jolly sorrel
#

15 minute cooldown, right?

pulsar escarp
wintry trench
#

Hmm btw does races have unique stats or abilities?

lethal bison
#

im too spoiled lmao

warped nest
#

No, D

wintry trench
#

Or I just choose one I like best

#

?

warm snow
#

!skill return

zinc orbitBOT
#
**Return** : lvl 0 All Classes (900.0 second cooldown)(5.0 second base cast time)

Instantly return to your current home point.

whole wasp
#

oh derp. 15 minutes

warped nest
#

@wintry trench personal preference

whole wasp
pulsar escarp
wintry trench
#

A bit bad tho that apparently they are gender locked

warm snow
warped nest
#

Kat, no

pulsar escarp
#

but it REALLY doesn't matter

whole wasp
#

its like about 10 max points of stat difference when you get 3000~4000 of stat

#

you cant even tell the difference

wintry trench
#

I see

whole wasp
#

unless you reverse engineer the damage formula

pulsar escarp
#

you can if you're right on the edge of like, 1k lol. but not in battle you can't

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I see a what, 19hp difference as a lvl80 tank between races

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when I switch

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of about. 170k+

whole wasp
#

crit variance is more noticable than the stat difference

warped nest
#

No in game content will put you in a situation where you'd go "man, I wish I used this race instead"

pulsar escarp
#

yeah, that's about it

#

LMAO

warm snow
#

Yeah the games solidly balanced

warped nest
#

Whatever other games drilled into your head

pulsar escarp
#

even then the crit variance isn't big enough for you to wish you were smth else lol

warped nest
#

That's their business

warm snow
#

To the point we have a tag for people asking what jobs best

#

!faq meta

zinc orbitBOT
#
How FFXIV's Meta Works

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warped nest
#

Don't worry about those ideas in XIV

pulsar escarp
#

thanks kupobot

warped nest
#

Oh, another thing, all your stats comes from gear

pulsar escarp
#

ah yes that

warped nest
#

There is no stat growth

wintry trench
#

Ye since I play WoW races do matter there when comes to choosing a class for them

warped nest
#

A character who played mages for a long time won't get more Mage stats

pulsar escarp
#

everyone has the same stats at the same level in classes

wintry trench
#

Like orc is better as hunter etc

pulsar escarp
#

(mostly)

wintry trench
#

That’s why I ask

#

If it’s same here

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XD

warped nest
#

The race stat doesn't matter

warm snow
#

None of that shit. Go nuts

warped nest
#

It exist, but it doesn't matter

pulsar escarp
#

they put in that race stat stuff probably just ot confuse people LMAO

jolly sorrel
#

Mandatory note: in this game you can even level every single class on the same character

pulsar escarp
#

maybe it mattered in the past

#

but definitely not now

wintry trench
#

Still the bad thing is races here are gender locked

whole wasp
#

it didnt matter before either. its mostly a roleplay thing

pulsar escarp
#

races?

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are -

whole wasp
#

only 2 races are gender locked

pulsar escarp
#

ah

warped nest
#

Two race

pulsar escarp
#

just viera and hrothgar

wintry trench
#

Oh wait only those two?

whole wasp
#

yup

pulsar escarp
#

yeah

warped nest
#

Yeah

wintry trench
#

I hope they don’t make more like that tho

whole wasp
#

you cant get those two in the free trial anyway

wintry trench
#

XD

#

With gender lock

agile laurel
#

because designing the other version was too much like hard work

pulsar escarp
#

nah

#

it's mostly a lore thing for viera too which was their excuse

agile laurel
#

Yeah, viera and hrothgar are generally considered a bus crash of wasted potential

pulsar escarp
#

not a good one. we're waiting

agile laurel
#

It won't happen again I'd say

warped nest
#

Hyur, miqote, elven, aura, lalafell, and I forgot are not gender locked

pulsar escarp
#

roe-

viral meteor
#

Anyone knows if it's possible to only show the HP but not MP in the party frame? I feel like it's kinda wasted space when healing

warped nest
#

Thanks

wintry trench
#

Btw there is no character slots to buy right?

#

Pls say there isn’t

dire prawn
#

Nope

agile laurel
#

not that you need it

wintry trench
#

And all races are free?

whole wasp
#

all races are free

agile laurel
#

the only reason to have multiple characters is rp flavour

pulsar escarp
warped nest
#

The most basic subscription comes with 8

dire prawn
#

All but Hroth and Viera

warped nest
#

You don't need 8

pulsar escarp
#

I mean, you can have entry sub

#

with 1

whole wasp
#

except viera and hrothgar which you need the actual game, not freetrial

agile laurel
#

literally only need one character

warped nest
#

You can want 8, but you don't need 8

agile laurel
#

more than one's almost a handicap

wintry trench
#

I see

whole wasp
#

!faq subprices

dire prawn
#

Entry sub is one character per World with a maximum of eight

pulsar escarp
#

having alt is almost zero benefit

viral meteor
#

@pulsar escarp thank you! wasted so much time trying to find it in the options

warped nest
#

No s, Smug

whole wasp
#

!faq subprice

zinc orbitBOT
#
Subscription Prices
dire prawn
#

But the only reason to have an alt at all is to play on another DC

whole wasp
wintry trench
#

DC?

warped nest
#

Data center

whole wasp
#

Datacenter. basically another realm

wintry trench
#

Haa

warped nest
#

Collection of World

#

World is server

#

Data center is a collection of World

agile laurel
wintry trench
#

You mean like eu and na?

dire prawn
#

Yes

warped nest
#

Match making are done between worlds within the same data center

agile laurel
#

the difference between this and wow is regions are further cut up into sub-regions or datacenters

#

there are 3 DCs on NA

#

etc etc.

dire prawn
#

NA has three DCs, EU has two and JP has three

wintry trench
#

I see

warped nest
#

DCs for NA are on the same physical location

wintry trench
#

Why EU only has two?

#

XD

agile laurel
#

they function identical to wow cross-region restrictions but

whole wasp
#

less people in EU

wintry trench
#

I am on EU

#

XD

warped nest
#

We don't know how to answer that kind of question

dire prawn
#

Then you'll want to pick Light or Chaos

whole wasp
#

EU's servers are both in frankfurt

wintry trench
#

I picked undecided

#

Since I don’t have the game

#

XD

void venture
#

anyone from japan server

oak ice
#

Not roles, datacenters lol

fresh lodge
wintry trench
#

Btw is there difference of playing game on steam or the actual launcher client?

dire prawn
#

Yes

wintry trench
#

Which one is better?

dire prawn
#

Actual launcher

fresh lodge
#

Depends

wintry trench
#

But what’s the difference?

whole wasp
#

either is fine. most people who prefer steam do it because they like using steam wallet

warped nest
#

The purchases on steam and standalone launcher cannot be mixed

dire prawn
#

Steam locks you into having to buy all future expacs and whatnot from Steam and it goes on sale less often

jolly sorrel
#

For the game itself there's no difference, only your payment/expansion options.

wintry trench
#

I see

warped nest
#

It is not like you are gonna rebuy the game again and again

fresh lodge
#

Steam lets you use Steam wallet, which can sometimes have a more favourable exchange rate for sub

warped nest
#

I always find the sales reason highly situational

wintry trench
#

It’s funny that most mmorpgs are also on steam

#

But wow isn’t

#

XD

#

I think WoW is only one that isn’t

#

On steam aswell

#

Thought this one wasn’t on steam aswell

#

But turns out it is

fresh lodge
#

No there are others but thats besides the point

wintry trench
#

I mean popular mmorpgs

#

XD

#

Which have the most players

#

Like wow and final fantasy

#

RuneScape etc

void venture
#

i have a question

wintry trench
#

For me?

void venture
#

my steam libarary says ffxiv online free trail, i want to buy the subcription do i need to delete the game and then i buy the one with sub?

vital ruin
#

No

#

You get it after free trial expires

#

Ig

fresh lodge
#

The free trial doesn't expire

whole wasp
#

you dont have to delete the freetrial. when you buy the game, i think there is a way to use the FT files you already downloaded

#

so you dont have to re-DL everything

vital ruin
strong saddle
#

?

#

How

vital ruin
#

Wym how

void venture
#

im a boomer with files and stuff so i dont know what to do haha

fresh lodge
#

It doesn't expire

vital ruin
#

It expired
I couldn't play anymore
I had to sub

fresh lodge
#

Did you buy the game?

vital ruin
#

Downloaded the free trial

#

So no? Ig

void venture
#

did u delete the game

#

or u just buy

vital ruin
#

I mean it was a game which was till HW expansion

#

Nope

fresh lodge
#

If all you had to do was add sub time, then you already owned the game

#

In which case you weren't on the free trial

vital ruin
#

Bought the complete edition ig
Which had all the expansions

#

Idk man all I did was download the free trial

fresh lodge
#

The free trial doesn't expire

#

You just bought the game

vital ruin
#

I'm confused but whatever

fresh lodge
#

Thats fine, just the free trial doesn't expire so please don't tell people it does

vital ruin
#

It expired for me but I don't wanna argue

pulsar escarp
#

It wouldn’t expire unless you activate a purchase code

#

I played free trial for three months or something before purchase

#

and then even after purchase it was only after code input

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quick star
#

anyone know the best samurai stat priority?

jolly sorrel
#

I frequently hear all dps jobs have Crit > DH > Det

wintry chasm
#

For SAM it's skill speed to hit certain "tiers" then what Tael said

#

You can find the tiers in uh

#

!faq balance

zinc orbitBOT
pulsar escarp
#

it's also just in the image isn't it

quick star
#

damn lol i put a bunch of crit

pulsar escarp
quick star
#

i had a feeling it was skill speed

pulsar escarp
#

there on filler phase

#

you have three types and that's.. with the buff

#

yeah actually I've forgotten the numbers

#

but 2.38 is the middle

wintry chasm
quick star
#

oh ok cool. ty for help

pulsar escarp
#

... tell that to my drk wearycarby

#

so much sks needing to be melded

vital ruin
#

Ye even I got 2.38 gcd

#

Are DRK and GNB the same build

#

Bis

void venture
#

to play dancer what do i need?

green grail
#

any other combat job at level 60 and own shadowbringers

pulsar escarp
worldly stag
#

Sub guys, need help with a level 75 dungeon

vital ruin
#

I c

strong saddle
#

Is it bad if I only use aoe to heal

warm snow
#

Kinda

green grail
#

depends on the content, but probably

warm snow
#

In terms of general play yeah

#

It's a habit that'll bit you in the ass

strong saddle
#

Does it depend on dungeon?

void venture
#

how to buy sub with free trail

warm snow
#

Buy full game first

#

Comes with 1 month sub

green grail
#

they're stronger than aoe heals, more mp efficient, each healer has multiple strong single target regens/shields/other cooldowns

#

if it's some 8man trial or a 24man raid then aoe-only would be.. not ideal but good-enough for the most part probably, though still not a good thing to get used to

void venture
#

the shadowbringers is a one thing right?

#

no need to buy per month

green grail
#

it's a one time purchase yeah

#

only monthly subscription is a recurring thing

void venture
#

so steam auto takes from my bank acc per month?

green grail
#

we get new expansions every ~2 years and you do need to buy a new one each time

#

depends how you set it up, you can set it to automatically charge or pay manually i think

vital ruin
#

Okay so I was tanking dungeons as DRK and AST gave me balance card

#

Why's that

#

Oh wait nvm I got it

agile laurel
#

no melee

#

or just an easier click

#

or your dps were shite and the ast knew it

vital ruin
#

No melee

agile laurel
#

there you go then

vital ruin
#

Ya

#

I follow the usual rotation or try to
So melee probably didn't suck but then again you can't parse on PS4

pulsar escarp
#

if I give tank a card it's prolly that or I just misclicked and you were the one I had selected

#

would you normally give cards to the shittiest dps?

agile laurel
#

if the tank is somehow doing more than the dps, i'm considering the dps a lost cause and not considering them

#

0 x 2 is still 0

pulsar escarp
#

ohhh you meant role and not 'your dps was shit' as in your personal dps lol

agile laurel
#

ah

pulsar escarp
#

I get that then

agile laurel
#

in that case, someone's gotta be bottom so if everyone was playing properly i'd just do whatever

pulsar escarp
#

yeah either way

#

card will contribute to a dps increase for someone

#

just prolly not a healer because they won't be as focused on smacking things as mcuh as dps/tank

agile laurel
#

i would

#

and people should

pulsar escarp
#

time to give healers attack bonus cards

#

all for me thnks

high otter
#

What is alliance chat messages? Is that a zone chat of current map?

agile laurel
#

No, it's your alliance raid in its entirety

#

All 3 full parties

#

not to be confused with shout, which is a similar colour by default and that IS current map

high otter
#

aah

#

yes, it seems like it's shout I'm asking about

#

and shout is?

agile laurel
high otter
#

thanks

green grail
#

it's alliance chat, zone doesn't matter

#

alliance is 3 full parties joined up

#

like in 24mans

high otter
#

only 4 chat tabs available?

warm snow
#

Yeah

#

But fully customizable and you can separate them into multiple windows if you want

high otter
#

I can't rename Battle tab though

void venture
#

if i buy this does my game libarary free trail name change?

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green grail
#

not sure, but you get to keep your free trial progress if thats what you're after

marble plover
#

Hello, maybe returning player here. I'm trying to see if i will go back to ffxiv after some months, i stopped back at eden... titan savage content iirc and was wondering if it's worth to go back to the game now.

#

Also wondering if it's hard to get to past/current raids as it's the main content i enjoy the most i guess with party finder or it's still hard if you're several patches behind

high otter
#

How can we tell if it's worth it or not? If you like the game — ofc return, by all means

green grail
#

yeah it's not difficult to catch up

#

old raids are in roulettes so there's barely any dead content

marble plover
#

even the savages/extremes?

green grail
#

yeah there's still PFs for it, or you can put up your own

pulsar escarp
#

ikishoten is used on cd, or is it just when kenki isn't going to overcap for sure

#

?

green grail
#

the 2nd eden tier is now "outdated" so you probably won't get parties for e5s-e8s, but the current tier is still alive

jolly sorrel
#

Old savage/extremes are ran unsynced to farm them. It takes a bit of effort to run them synced, but people are up for it at times. SE is also putting effort into renewing old extremes for current-tier gear.

green grail
#

manage your kenki to use it on cooldown and not overcap

pulsar escarp
#

oh so your shouldn't overcap anyway if it's on cd

#

gotcha

marble plover
#

hum... well i guess i'll hope the raiding community got better since last time i played and maybe hop in back for a month to test...

jolly sorrel
#

If you had issues with the "raiding community" last time you played, I doubt that will have changed. But that's rather subjective.

marble plover
#

is there an up to date "how to catch up"guide with the current patch esp on gear side please?

green grail
#

PF randoms can't really be called a community, like 40% or so of players do some savage, your experience will vary on the people you get or the groups you put together

void venture
#

once i reach lv 60 i instantly unlock dancer? or do i need to do anything

faint flare
#

Do the unlock quest

#

Like with any job

pulsar escarp
#

it's in limsa

marble plover
faint flare
#

Meta doesn't exist

#

Only shit players care for meta

marble plover
#

well good if that changed

faint flare
#

It's always been like that for the most part

marble plover
#

AH

#

i had to be forced to play ninja at some point and i am a main sch for some statics and i was literal shit at it

faint flare
#

14 knows how to balance things and make content clearable with every job

marble plover
#

really didn't enjoy that mentality

faint flare
#

As long as you're not garbage with a job then you're fine

green grail
#

@marble plover this one's a good gear catchup guide

marble plover
#

ah thanks

void venture
#

i talked to him to finish my main quest i dont see anymore main quest

faint flare
#

It's on the mini map

#

Also top left

#

Is the Msq tracker

void venture
#

whats the key bind for that again

marble plover
#

weekly reset is still tuesday?

faint flare
#

You just click the tracker

#

Yes

high otter
#

Can I set the clock to 24 format in english client?

void venture
#

oh i see it thank you

marble plover
#

no new class since dancer right?

green grail
#

we get them with expansions, we're getting sage and a melee dps with endwalker in fall

high otter
agile laurel
viscid fossil
#

Someone needs to make a video on how mmorpg game works with trial , sub and expansion . Many think it’s like single player game with save game files… or minecraft local game file shared coop. Too many misconceptions.

alpine shadow
#

I am not sure, what kind of misconceptions are you talking about?

#

Like, there are a few local game files that are stored in the client, ui/settings, but game character data? no that's stored in the datacentre.

#

Otherwise, if someone really believes that ffxiv is a co-op multiplayer game with only local save, then they must be joking, for real.

warped nest
#

Those feels like the kind of things you look up by yourself

alpine shadow
#

they should learn the concept of how games in general work.

strong saddle
#

You can still heal while soft targeting someone right? Or should I just hard target them instead

alpine shadow
#

Like, click on them, cast, and untarget them?

strong saddle
#

Yes

alpine shadow
#

Yeah

strong saddle
#

Cuz i was gonna lvl conjurer and wanted to dps and well as heal

alpine shadow
#

The first you begin a cast, it targets the thing you selected whilst the start of the cast

#

and you can then just select anything else anywhere

faint flare
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Soft targetting swaps you back to your original target after 1 skill use on then

warm snow
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candid ruin
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on which site i can buy complete edition? im so confused so many shop sites, idk, im lost

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can someone link me official site?

green grail
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alpine shadow
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minecraft servers stores their user-data in their servers though, though it is a singleplayer game, you are basically playing on a server, but locally, and when you open to lan, you open that server.

candid ruin
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@green grail after buying it, i will get code which i can activate on mog station?

green grail
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yes

storm quartz
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Hi I have a question, I have a lvl 58 BLM and want to start another job, is it like starting from scratch with all the lower quests and all or is starting a new job only killing mobs/doing dungeons/job quests?

alpine shadow
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Depends on what job you choose, some starts at 60,50 or 30, or 1

storm quartz
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I really want to redo all the quests I did, quests also give xp so I was wondering if I start a new job, how in the heck do I get xp

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1, archer

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I'm currently around lvl 10 on archer but there's literally no quests I can do

candid ruin
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thank u vis

alpine shadow
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Well, at lvl1 i would just kill a few monsters, or do potd, till you can do the first dungeon

faint flare
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!faq altlvlguide

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faint flare
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For levelling other jobs

storm quartz
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I really would like to do the quests again though

faint flare
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You cant

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Not for xp

storm quartz
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How do I do the quests again then?

faint flare
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Quests are one and done

green grail
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you can replay the story with new game+, but exp and other rewards are disabled

faint flare
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New game plus for the story. Unlocks in vesper bay

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It gives you NOTHING

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Just for replaying story

alpine shadow
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it gives you pain in your heart

storm quartz
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D:

candid ruin
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well there is no poland to choose in billing address, kinda weird xD

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so random country?

green grail
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it's the NA store, i linked that since you have the primal role

heady lily
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What's the best way to prepare for ishgard housing? I'm new and have never had a house and all of the housing slots on my server are full so I think ishgard is my best chance. Though how will it work? would it be easier to get a house quick if i were to get one before ishgard?

faint flare
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It should be first come first serve

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Free for all bloodbath

alpine shadow
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@candid ruin You need to go to the EU store instead.

heady lily
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I seee

green grail
candid ruin
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ohh, i thought that icons mean that i can speak english xD

heady lily
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So basically i gotta be the first on 6.0 releas

alpine shadow
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You might also want to check your account region too.

green grail
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do trial accounts even have regions

faint flare
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6.1

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For ishgard

heady lily
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ahhh what really

faint flare
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Yes

alpine shadow
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You select a region when creating the account

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Before getting the free trial

green grail
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fair

green grail
# candid ruin well there is no poland to choose in billing address, kinda weird xD

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warm snow
candid ruin
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thanks again

open coral
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@heady lily Getting a house is about 90% having the ability to sit at your desired plot and click on the placard until the invisible timer runs out, and 10% luck of your click when it does going through instead of those of the 30 other people also trying to get the same plot.

void cargo
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are books only limited to 1 drop/week for the savage promise raids?

green grail
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yes

void cargo
green grail
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if you're only after the loot then not really, no

void cargo
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so let's say I want the edenmorn ilv 535 weapon, I'd need to wait 8 weeks to get it?

faint flare
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You penalise loot and chests on further runs anway

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If you don't win the roll yes

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Books are your totems

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Basically

void cargo
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Would it be faster to farm augmented cryptlurker or edenmorn?

green grail
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cryptlurker, by a lot

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but it's one less weapon damage

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though unless you're going to just do optimized parse runs it doesn't really matter

candid ruin
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ohh and can i renew sub with normal bank transfer?

dire prawn
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Mistakes were made

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How do I dive underwater on controller

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Help

alpine shadow
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not trough bank transfer, but trough visa/mastercard/other payment processors.

candid ruin
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:V

dire prawn
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@obsidian patio how to dive underwater on controller

obsidian patio
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circle

dire prawn
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You're kidding me

alpine shadow
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i don't think many gaming services accepts bank transfers anyway....

obsidian patio
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or when on a mount, more directly face the water perpendicularly instead of an angle

open coral
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You also have to be over a place where the water allows diving. Some of the water's edge areas are a little picky about that.

dire prawn
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Also is Ruby Sea the only place I can dive at the moment

open coral
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Yes

dire prawn
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Oh I unlocked Shisui

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Is this dungeon just as hard to heal as Sirensong was

open coral
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Sirensong isn't that hard to heal.

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Shisui isn't hard either.

fringe bone
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how do i know how far i am in post arr ?

dire prawn
open coral
dire prawn
tame plinth
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where can i get level 50 gear for my DoL retainers?

open coral
fringe bone
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ty

leaden ginkgo
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Retainer can do gathering when selling item on market and storage stuff and items?
I have 2 retainer which I use like bank and selling. but I dont know how to set them for gathering and even I am not sure they can do gathering when I use like bank and run market?

twilit arch
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you need to do the quest "an ill-conceived venture" which is in all three starting cities, doesn't matter which one you do. once you've done that, you can set your retainer's class and send them out on ventures to go get things for you

open coral
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Ventures are independent of other actions.

twilit arch
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they can be a combat or gathering class, though they can only be as high as you are in that class, and for gathering retainers, can only gather things you have personally gathered yourself atleast once

fading aurora
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What level does DRK have more survivability? Early on it seems so squishy for being a tank

faint flare
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70

open coral
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!action the blackest night

zinc orbitBOT
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**The Blackest Night** : lvl 70 DRK (3000 MP) (15.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Creates a barrier around target that absorbs damage totaling 25% of target's maximum HP.
Duration: 7s
Grants Dark Arts when barrier is completely absorbed.
Dark Arts Effect: Consume Dark Arts instead of MP to execute Edge of Shadow or Flood of Shadow

open coral
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When you get that

faint flare
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It lacks it's short defensive Cooldown for so long

high otter
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Who's Angelise Reiter? A fictional character?

jolly sorrel
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I'm a bit confused at that question. Google gives me that that is the name of a random player

green grail
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looking at google its just some guy's character

leaden ginkgo
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are the grade 4 reisuis the best right now ?

pallid bluff
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do you guys have the most "accepted" theory to what the endwalker lyrics are

high otter
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A LOT of arts

jolly sorrel
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Some people do that

pallid bluff
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it could just be commissions

faint flare
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Probably just some guy who gets lots of comms

jolly sorrel
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They play on Balmung, so probably someone big into RP

faint flare
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People like getting art of their character

high otter
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So basically some random player character got famous in the community and got dozens of commissions? Heh, that's cool

faint flare
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Not famous

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Just paid alot of money for art

green grail
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more likely they just buy a lot of art of their character

high otter
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hmm I see

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it's just different artists draw arts with this character, nsfw included, I thought it's maybe some hidden lore character or leaked one

faint flare
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No

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Just some rando buying art

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The usual

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Some people get at least 1 art commission like a month cause they got that cash money