What if they don't holy
#questions-and-help
vital ruin
glossy flare
just requires a tiny bit of communication
fresh gate
I’m a DRK main and I love white mages
Because the only one instanc ei had to use living dead they were prepared with benediction
glossy flare
What if they don't holy
Then they suck
open coral
What if they don't holy
Same thing. You LD, you die, they Bene.
Continue.
But yes. Also they suck.
fresh gate
Just don’t use superbolide on gunbreaker after they just used their benedictions
strong saddle
hollow briar
Do I need to be so far into HW msq to be able to do lvl 52 DRK quest? Because it looks as if I need to use airship
vital ruin
When do I know I should TBN
After 3 holys?
hollow briar
Ticketer brushes me off
glossy flare
When do I know I should TBN
After 3 holys?
yes
after 3 holies the enemies are stun immune
slate arrow
- Assuming it's non stop, holy provides about 10 seconds of stun.
vital ruin
So I cool down first then wait for 3 holys then TBN?
open coral
4 Holy
slate arrow
The second one doesn't refresh, the third and fourth one refresh stun
vital ruin
Damn
open coral
Then TBN
vital ruin
I'm starting to find DRK a pain
glossy flare
Holy is just damn great
It's not that different with the other tanks, they have the same issue
mitigating during the holy stun phase is wasted mitigation
open coral
I usually just keep spamming Holy even after the stun doesn't work.
glossy flare
yea, for the dmg alone
slate arrow
Only DRK has a migitation ability which eats into DPS resource
vital ruin
MP management
TBN management
LD isn't a good inv
slate arrow
LD is great*
glossy flare
LD is great
slate arrow
*when you plan around it
vital ruin
If bene it's a waste
slate arrow
unfortunately, most DF healers are panic healers
vital ruin
Atleast GNB has actually inv?
slate arrow
If you wanna LD, tell them ahead of time
fading aurora
@keen pine if you play on a xp server u will be like lvl 40 before u reach lvl 20 msq lol
glossy flare
imagine the WHM uses bene and the GNB uses super right after that
that is WAY worse
fading aurora
It goes so fast
vital ruin
Ig I'll make more macros
vital ruin
They're jp
I need macros to communicate
glossy flare
hm, no idea how they handle things over there tbh
but I get by without macros just fine
(except for a Salted Earth macro)
hollow briar
Do I need to be so far into HW msq to be able to do lvl 52 DRK quest? Because it looks as if I need to use airship
faint flare
Yes
vital ruin
U need translate macros in jp
It's a must
hollow briar
Airship ticketer brushes me off
vital ruin
Or you suffer
faint flare
You need to be in the respective expansion for their job quests
leaden ginkgo
Returning PLD here, any suggestions for which skills go in a layout together for smoother combos?
open coral
Ishgard airships don't unlock until the end of 3.0
vital ruin
If I use GNB all I have to do is cool downs right? No TBN-ish bs?
vital ruin
When do I superbolide
faint flare
Heart of stone is their short Cooldown equiliant
vital ruin
TBN is just I don't understand
It destroys my mp and sometimes doesn't work
glossy flare
all the invulns have the same use case, essentially
vital ruin
Sometimes 3k is a waste
Cos a lot of TBs in dungeons doesn't break TBN
fresh gate
TBN is just I don't understand
It destroys my mp and sometimes doesn't work
TBN is meant to be used on high damage dealers
vital ruin
And then next flood takes my mp
glossy flare
Yes, that is a common issue. But casual content is the only place where that really is an issue
faint flare
You only use Tbn when you'll know it will break
open coral
@hollow briar You shouldn't need to use the airship for the DRK job quests. You need to go to Camp Cloudtop, which you should have done as part of the MSQ at the very beginning of HW. There's an aetheryte there.
glossy flare
In extreme or savage content you can be 100% sure a TB will break tbn
vital ruin
I mean I'm pretty sure I'm not tanking in high end content
glossy flare
true
vital ruin
Mobs are best for TBN
Sometimes TBN doesn't work on some TBs
glossy flare
that's a dungeon issue
faint flare
Just TBN will deal with dungeon busters and autos will break it after
glossy flare
wimpy bosses
fresh gate
I don’t know if I could live without TBN, best fast recharge ability to me tbh
fading aurora
Does savage drop the mounts and items at a higher rate or are they ex exclusive?
glossy flare
but honestly, i still use TBN on dungeon tankbusters
open coral
If you failed to attune to the aetheryte at Camp Cloudtop, there should be an NPC near the airship dock who will send you to Camp Cloudtop - not the airship ticketer.
vital ruin
It's great when it works
faint flare
Does savage drop the mounts and items at a higher rate or are they ex exclusive...
Mounts are guaranteed
glossy flare
because they usually break it after the TB
faint flare
In savage
vital ruin
I get free flood
hollow briar
<@!320961646866726912> You shouldn't need to use the airship for the DRK job que...
Don't think I've done that yet. I'm just now doing "Work in Progress" which is Falcon's nest
glossy flare
well... free edge on bosses
fresh gate
Thing is even if TBN doesn’t break it worked
glossy flare
but yea
fading aurora
Mounts are guaranteed
How much harder is savage compared to ex
faint flare
Much
vital ruin
Eh I use flood on everything
glossy flare
Don't
vital ruin
Less dps?
glossy flare
edge is way more dmg on single target
vital ruin
I c
fresh gate
Edge is AoE
faint flare
Flood is aoe
fresh gate
Shadow is single target
faint flare
Edge is single
fresh gate
And does more damage
fading aurora
Can savage be un synced though?
glossy flare
Edge is AoE
flood is aoe, but you probably meant that
open coral
Don't think I've done that yet. I'm just now doing "Work in Progress" which is F...
Yes. Camp Cloudtop is part of the other quest chain that would have appeared at the same time. The one from the other Fortemps son.
faint flare
Old ones yes
fresh gate
Also edge gets upgraded to do 600
vital ruin
It's just so many buttons on a tank
You manage your mp then your darkside
And then there's the case of single/aoe dps
fresh gate
flood is aoe, but you probably meant that
Yeah screwed up
vital ruin
Its like playing summoner but a tank
open coral
!quest Onwards and upwards
zinc orbitBOT
fading aurora
U guys think summoner will get a new summon at level 90?
glossy flare
No, drk is nowhere close to SMN in terms of complexity.
fresh gate
It's just so many buttons on a tank
You manage your mp then your darkside
And th...
There are, but it’s still fun
It’s just a decent smoking if button pressing but when you click with it
heavy wadi
All of the tanks are pretty simple.
vital ruin
GNB is much simpler
fresh gate
Warrior is pretty simple
glossy flare
DRK has a reasonably fast paced opener with some weaving and after that it's just your regular 1-2-3 until things come back off cd
leaden ginkgo
can anyone tell me what the letter near to the monster means, like E or F
heavy wadi
GNB is more complicated than DRK.
glossy flare
GNB has way more dmg optimization to think about
heavy wadi
can anyone tell me what the letter near to the monster means, like E or F
Just identifiers, doesn't mean anything really
fresh gate
GNB is more complicated yeah
open coral
can anyone tell me what the letter near to the monster means, like E or F
Just an artifact of the system. It's a way of identifying individual monsters of the same type.
hollow violet
How do I use mooch? I caught a striped goby(HQ) but my character automatically took it off the line
vital ruin
Can u send me a link on how to play DRK properly
fresh gate
Warrior is the most simple honestly
hollow briar
Yes. Camp Cloudtop is part of the other quest chain that would have appeared at ...
Well I'm pretty sure I haven't done that 1 yet because I also would have attuned to the aertheryte so I'll see after I finish here
vital ruin
Is it a video guide
glossy flare
also !faq balance
fresh gate
It’s text
glossy flare
for more reasources
vital ruin
Oof
open coral
The Balance probably has video guides.
heavy wadi
salted is the balance
fresh gate
But it’s simple enough thet you can read it once or twice
And you’ll get the gist of it
glossy flare
The Balance probably has video guides.
not for drk actually
vital ruin
It's not akh morning type big brain need shit right?
open coral
Really? That's surprising.
fresh gate
Yeah DRK doesn’t have video guides
glossy flare
akh morning only has caster guides
open coral
The Balance usually has video guides for everything.
glossy flare
but great resources on other stuff too
like stat scaling and whatnot
magical math shit
But salted xiv caster guides just link you to akhmorning I think
fresh gate
I might confess that I never read guides till I got to level 80 and it made shit so simpler
vital ruin
Akh morning summoner guide destroyed my brain
heavy wadi
that's smn for ya
heavy wadi
it's not complex, it's just long
warm snow
Most people here recommend wesk alber for video guides
glossy flare
It's okay to take your time with these things, just for the record
vital ruin
I don't understand the words they use
warm snow
As he goes through with the skills and is targeted at beginners
jolly sorrel
That's when you come here to ask 🙂
warm snow
Yeah weskalber then
glossy flare
weskalber guides are great introductions, yeah
vital ruin
Tru
warm snow
fresh gate
Akh has some complex terms sometimes but after learning what they mean it becomes way simpler
warm snow
Take it and go
vital ruin
That's like over 20 minutes long
glossy flare
but he even mentions that those are merely an overview, so if you ever intend to go into endgame stuff you may want to lookk at a more detailed guide
glossy flare
That's like over 20 minutes long
Well yea because there's a lot to go over
fresh gate
Yeah it’s 20 minutes long, it goes through all levels and skills
glossy flare
Cold, hard truth: There is no easy way out for you
jolly sorrel
If you can't be arsed to read a guide or watch a video, just press random buttons and you'll be fine 🙂
fresh gate
And how to play on most levels
vital ruin
Tru
warm snow
That's like over 20 minutes long
Just watch to your current level then
vital ruin
So I can skip all to just 80?
warm snow
Fuck no
heavy wadi
you need to put a bit of time in to learn pretty much every class in this game, if you don't you'll bring down other players partying with you
fresh gate
What
No you can’t just skip to 80
You gotta learn the basics and the pros and cons first
And when to apply most stuff
Level 80 literally will only touch mostly upon living shadow
warm snow
That's a guide of all skills in the order they're unlocked by level
glossy flare
that's what weskalber guides are. He just goes over every single action in the order you get them
warm snow
And an explanation of how they work
fresh gate
IF you want to cut some time off of the video
onyx kiln
what is the cause behind direct fx crashes?
warm snow
With rough rotations for the level caps(50,60,70,80)
maiden palm
i download the free trial how do i make a one time password it says i need to buy the game at mog
jolly sorrel
For the record, it's totally fine if you refuse to play optimally, 90% of the playerbase doesn't read guides. But it's no good to come here to ask how to play a job and then refuse the answers.
fresh gate
Just watch until level 70
warm snow
i download the free trial how do i make a one time password it says i need to bu...
Leave one time password blank
heavy wadi
what is the cause behind direct fx crashes?
drivers probably out of date
maiden palm
oh thanks
warm snow
It's for 2fa but just oddly implemented
fresh gate
Also what Tael said, you don’t gotta be optimized as fuck if you want
onyx kiln
i bought a new PC just 2 weeks ago and just had the game go down due to one
fresh gate
Aim to have fun first
mental oracle
Can you get ser aymeric's sword as glamour?
fresh gate
If you don’t have fun with dark knight maybe pick another tank
glossy flare
Also you don't just go from 0 to a 100 in terms of your performance. You read a guide, you try to implement it, you will fail, you read up some parts again, practice some more, fail again, rinse and repeat until it works
Takes time, but that's only natural
warm snow
Can you get ser aymeric's sword as glamour?
Closest would be the gordian pld weapon or the final form arr relic
Dyed ofc
mental oracle
you can dye weapons? didn't know that
heavy wadi
some weapons can be dyed yeah
warm snow
Gordian weapon you'll have to do the savage
Fair warning
But its pretty easy to unsync it
But you'll need multiple people
As there's an instant death mechanic
manic flare
is the butterfingers mount a recolor of something else
warm snow
Yes
limber parcel
warm snow
The korropokuru mount from gold saucer
limber parcel
What do those 3 icons in the corner mean?
warm snow
Can't remember th first one, second is tradeable I tbink
glossy flare
first one is if you can put a crest on it
faint flare
What do those 3 icons in the corner mean?
Can have Fc crest, something and can go in Armourie
warm snow
Oh wait I'm wrong
open coral
Second is Glamour, third is... armoire
limber parcel
Ah ok, so if the middle one is lit up, it means I've already got it in the glamour dresser yeah?
Cos i think i have this
warm snow
No
faint flare
No
open coral
It means it can go in the glamour dresser
glossy flare
no, it means you can put it there
faint flare
It CAN go in there
warm snow
It means it can go in there
limber parcel
Ooh okay, thank you
manic flare
what is a fc crest
limber parcel
So it doesn't track if i have it already?
formal meteor
Do food buffs work in HoH?
warm snow
You know fc: free companu
glossy flare
what is a fc crest
Each FC can design a crest, a logo essentially
warm snow
Basically guild
faint flare
Your Fc icon you see in the Fc page
glossy flare
and you can then put that logo on some armour pieces
it's usually pretty tiny though
hardly noticable
limber parcel
Is there a way to see what i have unlocked in the glamour chest, without having to go back to it?
Like if something drops I've got in there, is there a way to tell "i have that"
warm snow
Right click and search
manic flare
do people bother with the FC crest feature
faint flare
Search for the item
glossy flare
not really
manic flare
i've never heard anyone talk about it before
glossy flare
because again, the crests on armour pieces are super tiny
warm snow
My fc leader does
faint flare
It's an old forgotten thing
limber parcel
Ah nice, thank you
glossy flare
would actually be a cool feature if the crests were more noticable tbh
warm snow
But honestly the crest designer ain't great so the simplistic designs don't look great on most armor imho
glossy flare
but they just aren't
warm snow
It's neat to have
faint flare
It exists.jpg
manic flare
i feel like FC crest would just clash with the aethetic of an armor
warm snow
Aesthetics are subjective
glossy flare
I mean, you're not forced to put it on there
just like no one is forced to walk around in a pink and yellow glamour
faint flare
Except for when raid gives out punishment glamour
manic flare
I mean, you're not forced to put it on there
A better option i wish they had is let u remove some pieces u dont like off an armor. like a lot of the leggings that come with skirts
faint flare
manic flare
that'd be better than some adding random crest option
warm snow
This is getting to #general-discussion
glossy flare
A better option i wish they had is let u remove some pieces u dont like off an a...
That'd be a nice feature indeed but very unlikely for code reasons (as always)
warm snow
Better stop before channy baps us all
glossy flare
yea, what kat says
fresh gate
Might as well ask, what do y’all think is the most effective way to get a level 1 class to a level to do sastasha ?
manic flare
Might as well ask, what do y’all think is the most effective way to get a level ...
challenge log, fates, HoN, hunting log
faint flare
!faq altlvlguide
zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
This exists
warm snow
Hunting log + class quests should get you most of the way to 15
fading aurora
@fresh gate if u do hunt log it takes a few mins and u will be 15 in no time
U also get some xp from class quests
manic flare
@fresh gate find a friend who has a two-seater mount who can ferry you to the hunting log locations if you haven't unlocked flying yet
maiden palm
hello guys new player here i got some questions: how long will the first segment take cause i hear it is not the best part as its kinda outdated, what server should i choose (eu) i like playing with lots of people and have a guild at a populated server, is there a player driven market where u farm and sell to other people to make profit or everyone has everything after so many years, after you finish the story expansions what is the incentive to play as far as content is concerned beside leveling other classes
fresh gate
I’m just curious for the answers
little swift
!faq worldpick
zinc orbitBOT
little swift
tldr pick whatever
there is a player market yes but gil isn't a super crazy valuable resource
since most gear you'd use regularly is obtained otherwise with different currencies
manic flare
hello guys new player here i got some questions: how long will the first segm...
i recommend you to pick a preferred world/server
for the exp bonuses
leaden ginkgo
@maiden palm i had that issue few horus ago, i took cerebrus
faint flare
Everything is cross world these days
fading aurora
@fresh gate I don't mind flying u around for a bit
faint flare
So it doesn't matter
little swift
the base game main story has a lot of initial set-up for the rest of the game, so unless you're super interested in the story you'd just skip through it anyways
little swift
you have to do msq, its not optional
your job levels aren't as important as the main story level
as that holds back a lot of content in the game
leaden ginkgo
I bought a 2nd code for a friend in EU for the Butterfinger promotion.. Should I use a VPN, new name/info, and email?
fresh gate
<@775800212194328636> I don't mind flying u around for a bit
Bro I literally have Done all MSQ stuff and waiting for Endwalker
maiden palm
i recommend you to pick a preferred world/server
yeah but a guild is really important to me besides its an mmo
fresh gate
I’m literally just curious about the answers lmao
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
i wasnt getting any answers on what server is the best so i took the one not listed in the world pin here or what it was
faint flare
Use that to help find some
warm snow
i wasnt getting any answers on what server is the best so i took the one not lis...
Doesn't matter
manic flare
yeah but a guild is really important to me besides its an mmo
you likely will have to hop around different FCs to find the right fit. every world/server has plenty of FCs/guilds
fading aurora
Can people in eu even use the code? It's a US only event
warm snow
There is no "best" world
warm snow
Can people in eu even use the code? It's a US only event
Code is not region locked
manic flare
if you like RP'ing i recommend go to Balmung, I guess
maiden palm
Bro I literally have Done all MSQ stuff and waiting for Endwalker
and what do u do now? raid and hard content?
hollow violet
Do I only need one of each Lure for fishing?
manic flare
Balmung has the most dedicated RP people
oblique geyser
hmm, guys... I face this problem when activating the key in mogstation:
Please contact the SQUARE ENIX Support Centre for additional details.
Error Code: i2501```need help
warm snow
Do I only need one of each Lure for fishing?
No they can still break
faint flare
Do I only need one of each Lure for fishing?
Lures aren't consumed unless they break
warm snow
I'd recommend 3-5 ish
fresh gate
and what do u do now? raid and hard content?
Level up some jobs and just enjoy the game
maiden palm
nah im more on the hardcore grind side which i get isnt the main thing here but still
hollow violet
Thanks
fresh gate
I don’t really do savages or whatnot
I just wanna get my classes to a point where I can just not care about ARR stuff
little swift
i wasnt getting any answers on what server is the best so i took the one not lis...
People gave you an answer
glossy flare
You can sink quite some time into savage raiding and then, after that, ultimates if you are interested. There are also other long term activities like relic weapons you could spend a lot of hours on
maiden palm
i didnt want to start for some time cause i saw that there will be one last expansion but that wasnt the case right
fresh gate
I’m not getting relics and I’m not looking into savage raiding, I play alone
manic flare
i didnt want to start for some time cause i saw that there will be one last expa...
you can continue playing the free trial until endwallker comes out, if you don't mind playing just the base game and the first expansion
faint flare
Last expansion for the story arc but it sets up a new one
little swift
6.0 is not the last expansion, just the last for this story arx
6.1 is the start of a new arc
fresh gate
6.0 ends the Zodiark and Hydaelyn story
glossy flare
I’m not getting relics and I’m not looking into savage raiding, I play alone
I was more commenting on the other guy because they seem interested in what kind of activities the game has to offer
fresh gate
But starts something new
little swift
Were like a year away from that
maiden palm
cause i like the long term games i get really attached 😄
little swift
New story means more content
fresh gate
XIV won’t really die for the next 10 years at a minimum
manic flare
a part of me hopes they aren't just saying "it's the last expo for the current story arc" for marketing purposes. because they can't really say it's the last expo even if it were true
maiden palm
:/
fading aurora
XIV won’t really die for the next 10 years at a minimum
The game is super popular still I doubt it will die for a very long time
warm snow
cause i like the long term games i get really attached 😄
You could just play on trial and see if the game is for you, but no social features on trial
Trial is stupid generous to be fair
maiden palm
yea but i have thats the thing some years i go, im ready to go all in ^^
ruby crow
Hello people! I wanted to know whether there are any people here who've been renewing their game subscription through steam
Does the subscription renewal from steam charge a regional pricing or the standard pricing itself? I checked online but there were conflicting answers 
fresh gate
Regional pricing decided by the USD conversion of steam
leaden ginkgo
hmm, guys... I face this problem when activating the key in mogstation:
``` ...
Try sending ticket to SE about the purchase issue
Sometime purchase region (taiwan for example) can trigger that error
Tell them what form of game you have (digital code) and tell the error circumstances i suppose and where you are
The resolution for my friend was wait 24 hours to input the code after getting reply that said to wait like that
warm snow
It takes directly from your steam wallet
fading aurora
@manic flare on the release trailer etc the creator said it is the last expansion for the current series but they will begin a new one after like a whole new story
fresh gate
Steam sometimes caps the USD to your currency price to make it a “”fair price””
fading aurora
The game won't just end on this expansion
ruby crow
Does it take the USD price or the adjusted region price, as the game price is lower in certain regions
fresh gate
So it will probably be slightly cheaper
zinc orbitBOT
fresh gate
Though you do need funds on your wallet
maiden palm
and lastly about the economy, can i farm things and sell to other people etc
warm snow
Basically steam does the conversion so however steam behaves in your region
remote lintel
yes you can sell things
fresh gate
^
faint flare
Depends on the item yes
remote lintel
on the market board
warm snow
and lastly about the economy, can i farm things and sell to other people etc
Not on trial
fresh gate
It will be on USD but steam converts the price using their own price
warm snow
But otherwise anything that's not explicitly labeled UNTRADEABLE
faint flare
Gear from instances are generally untradeable
remote lintel
no
fading aurora
@maiden palm if u play trial u can't use market board also your gil is capped at 300k
Which is not much
remote lintel
it's market board prohibited
maiden palm
yea i got the game
remote lintel
not untradeable
fresh gate
Untraceable bag of coke
maiden palm
like sell rare mountsm end game items etc
remote lintel
no
faint flare
Only specific crafted mounts can be sold
oblique geyser
Try sending ticket to SE about the purchase issue
Sometime purchase region (taiw...
oof, that's quite painful but thanks
warm snow
Not a lot of rare mounts are tradeable
remote lintel
endgame gear is market prohibited
fresh gate
Some mounts can be sold and some crafted gear (that is the starting point to get some end game stuff)
warm snow
Only specific crafted mounts can be sold
Hoh, potd, faux leve mounts are all tradeable
remote lintel
that's not endgame
open coral
Exarchic isn't endgame.
fresh gate
Exarchic is the entry point for end game tbh
remote lintel
that's entry to endgame
open coral
It's pre-endgame.
faint flare
If it's not related to crafting stuff, or a few other things then it's not marketable
fading aurora
It's still close
maiden palm
endgame gear is market prohibited
yea makes sense actually
modest igloo
that being said, you can buy the gear needed to enter endgame content without needing to grind it out
fresh gate
Anyway exarchic is very important for people who don’t get carried through stuff since it’s the highest level thing you can get readily available when reaching 80
warm snow
There's always craftable endgame gear that's a bit below best endgame gear but still quite good
maiden palm
yea but people still want crafted things right, cause the game is quite old
fresh gate
You won’t get as much money from selling actual armor as you would from pieces that are used for fashion
faint flare
And glamour
maiden palm
one more thing: Rare mounts,pets from activities?
oblique geyser
Try sending ticket to SE about the purchase issue
Sometime purchase region (taiw...
Will they help though if my physical location isn't where the game is supported (e.g Malaysia)?
remote lintel
yes
maiden palm
pog
modest igloo
i have a gundam
remote lintel
that's not rare
faint flare
maiden palm
ok thanks guys appreciate it
leaden ginkgo
Will they help though if my physical location isn't where the game is supported ...
I mean in my friend case it was taiwan
So i think should be fine ,-,
modest igloo
me too!
remote lintel
gundam friends
fading aurora
I have the golden gundam
-25m
faint flare
3rd run kekW
oblique geyser
I mean in my friend case it was taiwan
So i think should be fine ,-,
okay, thank you so much... I will try to send the support ticket
faint flare
On patch day
leaden ginkgo
how do quests work with class changing, if i pick a lvl 10-12 quest with my archer then switch to another class does he restart all the quests, or does he have the ones archer had?
remote lintel
you have to do the job quests
faint flare
Quests are for everyone within that spectrun
remote lintel
oh
faint flare
Story is only done once
maiden palm
is there a discord tab here for guild recruitment?
faint flare
Recruitment channels
remote lintel
you need to pick a data center role
faint flare
You'll need your data centre role
maiden palm
oh got it
leaden ginkgo
I bought a 2nd code for a friend in EU for the Butterfinger promotion.. Should I use a VPN, new name/info, and email?
ok so level is not global but class based but if a higher class character picks a quest up (outside the specific class story quests) and then the lower lvl one can deliver it to get the xp?
remote lintel
you have to meet the minimum level to do the quest
read
faint flare
To turn it in
remote lintel
@leaden ginkgo just tell him to do it
faint flare
Power levelling isn't really a thing unless it's blue mage
leaden ginkgo
ah by do the quest u ment both pick it up and hand it in, ok thank you
so in general with new class i will only get repetable/daily/the class story quests, other xp has to be grinded to reach the level of the curent content im doing, thank you
warm snow
Whatever your current job is is almost entirely based on whatever weapon you have equiped
remote lintel
you grind them by doing dungeons
zinc orbitBOT
warm snow
Jobs don't get repeatable quests
faint flare
See this for alts
remote lintel
side quests aren't good for xp
leaden ginkgo
ah ok
faint flare
Jobs don't get repeatable quests
Well leves and beast tribes buuuuut yeah
leaden ginkgo
also if i have an active class story quest, im like half way done and switch the class, does the quest continue once i switch back?
warm snow
Yes
remote lintel
yes it saves
faint flare
Yes it will be paused
fresh gate
you wont lose any progress
narrow coral
is there a difference really between playing on steam or not on steam?
like is there a benefit to one wayt or the other
remote lintel
steam has less frequent sales
warm snow
Not really
faint flare
is there a difference really between playing on steam or not on steam?
Steam locks you to it and have to buy off steam for expansions
leaden ginkgo
@narrow coral from what i understand no, just depends on what gets sales when thats it
faint flare
But steam wallet
fresh gate
you buy only off of steam
fresh gate
but if you don't live in the US
narrow coral
the expansions are listed on steam?
fresh gate
steam is marginally better
warm snow
And you can only buy expansions that match
remote lintel
yes
fresh gate
because prices on steam for dollar are mostly lower
narrow coral
someone said you have to buy off steam for them
remote lintel
yes
warm snow
So you HAVE to buy the expansions on steam if you bought the game on steam
narrow coral
i also expected more frequent sales from steam tbh
remote lintel
once you buy the game on steam you need to buy all future expacs on steam, even if there's a sale on the SE store
twilit arch
ffxiv doesnt go on sale often on steam
faint flare
Vice via for non steam, they can't use steam but can use other third party sellers
narrow coral
doesnt the same apply to the non steam version?
remote lintel
yes
leaden ginkgo
@narrow coral from what i seen yesterday i have the same price on square enix and on steam, but i saw somebody having the double price of starter pack on steam vs the website, so it depends on the place you live in and the taxing
fresh gate
^
twilit arch
non-steam version is a little more flexible because you can often buy from various third party sellers (i.e amazon, greenmangamging etc)
remote lintel
that sounds like regional pricing
fresh gate
i pay less on the sub via steam compared to just straight through square
leaden ginkgo
yeah regional pricing
narrow coral
hmm okey. cause i have decided to start over on a free trial so i can work on getting a bunch of classes to 60 and whatnot before i buy.
and tryin to decide if im gonna use steam or not
remote lintel
well you're in NA so regional pricing isn't really an issue
fresh gate
honestly if you don't live on the US i highly suggest getting steam 
narrow coral
i do live in US
leaden ginkgo
i live in europe
and the non steam was a better option for me
i can find some of the expansions on retail stores
fresh gate
well then just go without steam, since you will get more sales compared to steam
and price will be the same
leaden ginkgo
with nice disscount that are only usable in the non steam account
remote lintel
other retail stores may have discounts yeah
fresh gate
generally, both the base game and expansions and the sub have been cheaper for me
vital ruin
When you're tanking and you're up against a heavy hitting boss
Should you have cool downs during the whole boss fight or only during TBs or raid aoes/mechanics
fresh gate
considering the conversion of USD
remote lintel
the whole boss fight
vital ruin
Oof
faint flare
If you have spare Cooldowns you can mitigate autos
fresh gate
save high cooldowns for tank busters
narrow coral
hmm okay i guess i go non steam
faint flare
But keep some for busters
vital ruin
Does autos hurt
jolly sorrel
Rotate your cooldowns too, don't stack them all at once.
narrow coral
i figured steam would be more convenient but it sounds the opposite
faint flare
Autos are what you take the most damage from in the fight
slate arrow
Does autos hurt
depends on the fight, but for most savages and all ultimates, yes
faint flare
It adds up
remote lintel
all tanks usually have one big cd that you can use for tbs
vital ruin
I see a lot of guide says use two cool downs at once
If I use both at once I won't have cool downs to use
faint flare
If you look at any log for damage taken, autos will be top
fresh gate
TBs you can use the 30% CD/TBN
faint flare
You only stack Cooldowns if needed
Otherwise use only 1
You only need to double stack in high end content
Cause those busters hurt
warm snow
You have 3 basic cooldowns
twilit arch
i figured steam would be more convenient but it sounds the opposite
if you like having everything in one spot, steam is fine. main thing to keep in mind is that steam doesnt go on sale often and you're going to have to buy from steam (or find a steam key from a 3rd party seller, which is generally rarer). you also have the upside of being able to use steam wallet to pay for the sub/optional items. so if you use that a lot, its good.
vital ruin
So since I have TBN I don't need to over stack cool downs right?
remote lintel
no
warm snow
Rampart, a unique better rampart and reprisal
remote lintel
you want tbn to break
fresh gate
Not really
faint flare
TBN alone won't be enough in higher end
fresh gate
TBN is great by itself
fresh gate
some really high level stuff will have you stack TBN with something else like 15%
But it’s not needed to double stack
faint flare
Maybe you can consider two light Cooldowns like Camouflage and heart of stone
warm snow
Trial bosses are usually weaker than normal raids
vital ruin
I c
narrow coral
actually does ff14 on steam uses steam wallet for subs and stuff as well?
faint flare
Yes
twilit arch
yes
faint flare
It's a option
maiden palm
is a healer the most sought after(guilds,activities) ? also i hope i can solo story content with healer
narrow coral
hmm that might be enough to make me want to use steam i get steam cards from people as gifts sometimes
so would be convenient
fresh gate
Maybe you can consider two light Cooldowns like Camouflage and heart of stone
I like to use camouflage + rampart because it just gives you 30% with the lower cooldown
faint flare
Yes and yes
twilit arch
MSQ is designed to be doable by all jobs
faint flare
I like to use camouflage + rampart because it just gives you 30% with the lower ...
Well more like 24%
maiden palm
oh ok cause at some old mmos it was really hard
narrow coral
plus i see game went on sale during summer sale so maybe it will again idk
faint flare
Due to multiplicity stacking
jolly sorrel
Wasn't there a !faq that explained CD stacking?
faint flare
Don't believe so
fresh gate
Still good enough even if it is wrong
twilit arch
might've been in one of the tank guides
faint flare
It's still fine just not the 30%
remote lintel
is a healer the most sought after(guilds,activities) ? also i hope i can solo st...
all classes are sought after
faint flare
Since they're light Cooldowns
remote lintel
every group needs 2 healers so of course they're going to take healers
maiden palm
i mean queues for starting dungeons will be like really long if im dps ?
vital ruin
Do you interrupt casts with interject or low blow
From my experience so far interject does nothing
Then again I didn't try it with a tank
slate arrow
interject
faint flare
!faq interrupt
zinc orbitBOT
slate arrow
low blow is stun
remote lintel
dps queues are like 15-20 min
twilit arch
lower level dungeons, you wont see many interject bars
faint flare
Wow nice embed
fresh gate
Interject is for spells and such
vital ruin
Non tanks can't interrupt right?
fresh gate
Low blow just stuns the enemy
faint flare
Ranged dps can
slate arrow
only Ranged DPS
open coral
Non tanks can interrupt, yes.
twilit arch
so you can use low blow, but after ARR low blow won't be useful as much
vital ruin
Bro my interject never works
faint flare
It has to be PULSATING
remote lintel
do it faster
twilit arch
then you're not using it on the right thing
faint flare
It's very clear
vital ruin
It's instant
open coral
Interject only works on cast spells with a flashing bar.
faint flare
The cast bar has to be visibly pulsating
open coral
If the bar isn't flashing, you can't interrupt with Interject.
vital ruin
I did use it on flashing casts
twilit arch
ARR has some interjectable things technically, but they are often too quick to actually be interjected unless you're really quick
vital ruin
Pulsing?
faint flare
Yes, it's very clear and different from regular bars
vital ruin
I c
fresh gate
The tank job quest from Shadowbringers has a lot of interject usage
vital ruin
Uhh
faint flare
THAT PULSATES
vital ruin
I'm blank
faint flare
Showing it can be interrupted
twilit arch
vital ruin
Pulsing as in slight beeps?
jolly sorrel
Also its red.
fresh gate
Interruptible is red with a orange glow
jolly sorrel
Instead of yellow
fresh gate
Compared to flat orange
faint flare
Pulsing, flashing, whatever you wanna call it
vital ruin
I c
open coral
Pulsing as in, you see that thin line around the second one?
faint flare
It's visibly different and very obvious when you see it
open coral
That line would be constantly moving outwards.
vital ruin
And how do I know which enemy is immune to stun and which isn't
open coral
Boss = immune to stun.
faint flare
The white mages in Heroes gauntlet have inteeruptable spells with Protect
vital ruin
Non bosses are also immune
slate arrow
nearly all boss mobs are immune
twilit arch
if its an ARR boss, there's a chance that its stunable. if its after ARR, its immune
slate arrow
non bosses gain immunity due to WHM holy stun
slate arrow
so it's better to just learn to interject over low blow
jolly sorrel
^ mobs can only be stunned three times.
vital ruin
Ahh so it was cos of that holys
maiden palm
is there a map completion tab for doing all side quests events etc at each place?
jolly sorrel
Is there an ShB allied tribes quest?
jolly sorrel
Oh? Huh. Anything for getting all tribes to max then, other than having them maxed?
I've rank 7 on 'em all now
faint flare
Nope
jolly sorrel
Alright 🙂 thanks.
fresh gate
Well you get to brag about it if the need arises
storm holly
so from what i understand, FFXIV's free trial has limitations on certain features & I can only level up to 60 and play thru ARR + Heavensward
random girder
yup pretty much
leaden ginkgo
theres a pin
random girder
^
remote lintel
!faq freetrial
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
with a video that explains all limitation of the trial
storm holly
i was actually going to ask
why would i buy complete edition
instead of Shadowbringers
remote lintel
because you cant buy dlc for a game you dont own
random girder
because you dont own the game, its just the free trial
leaden ginkgo
shadowbringers is just dlc
storm holly
ahhh
wintry chasm
Yeah you still need to buy the base game
storm holly
so if i buy the complete edition i get stormblood and shadowbringers?
leaden ginkgo
the other one compelte edition gives all the dlcs + base game + 30 day game time
remote lintel
yes bee
random girder
complete edition also gives you 30 days of free sub so it is technically a somewhat good deal
storm holly
awesome thanks
wintry chasm
so if i buy the complete edition i get stormblood and shadowbringers?
You get base game and Shadowbringers.
remote lintel
@random girder thats because it has the starter edition
storm holly
i was really confused because i was like "why would i buy the complete edition when Shadowbringers is so much cheaper"
remote lintel
the starter edition gives the 30 days
random girder
shadowbringers includes stormblood, as endwalker will include sb and shb
unless they raise free trial to sb 
faint flare
They wont
random girder
true
maiden palm
wait for endwalker big brain move kap
faint flare
They only JUST raised it
random girder
hw is a better endpoint anyway
storm holly
Also, how does locking me out when I don't have gametime work
random girder
you cant log in
wintry chasm
^ the end
storm holly
If i'm out of gametime, I can't even log in on a low level character?
remote lintel
no
faint flare
Nope
wintry chasm
Correct
remote lintel
you cant
storm holly
Damn aight
faint flare
Cause you're not trial
storm holly
I see, well, thanks for answering my questions
On a completely different note
What's the best way to level an alt class? I'm having trouble finding enough sidequests that are the right level for me.
remote lintel
not sidequests
faint flare
!faq altlvlguide
zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
Side quests are just lore
storm holly
I guess just run FATEs then?
remote lintel
read the link
faint flare
Hunting logs
random girder
from 1-15 hunting logs, then palace of the dead/highest dungeon
storm holly
👍
remote lintel
potd is only for dps with long queues
remote lintel
no
livid sigil
I logged in and my first two hotbars are the same
remote lintel
its a flat %
livid sigil
anyone know how to switch it back
storm holly
okay so as long as i'm below the level of my main, i receive the bonus all the same
remote lintel
yes
maiden palm
what class do u recommend me for a main healer?
random girder
whatever you find fun
remote lintel
white mage if youre afraid of first time healing
if you dont care then whatever looks cool
faint flare
Only healer you can start as as well
remote lintel
yeah you need to get to heavensward for astrologian
maiden palm
i dont really care for now i just want the best one since i will have all classes at the end
remote lintel
theyre all good
faint flare
They're all the best
remote lintel
pick whatever looks cool
faint flare
Just press your buttons
remote lintel
if youre completely new then pick conjurer as your starting class
random girder
this game is really well balanced. no such thing as a best or worst class
maiden palm
cause it levels both right?
vital ruin
This is the opener I should go for?
maiden palm
oh lmao ok
remote lintel
scholar is only a healer at lvl 30
faint flare
Conjurer is white mage
manic flare
how do i obtain this gearset?
remote lintel
the skirt and top are lvl 80 red mage job gear
sturdy hemlock
And also RDM AF3
vital ruin
At storm captain?
sturdy hemlock
Scuse me 4
manic flare
do u need shadowbringers to get it?
vital ruin
No
maiden palm
so conjurer is healer and white mage at 30
vital ruin
My brainnn
remote lintel
@manic flare you need shadowbringers for the lvl 80 job gear
sturdy hemlock
do u need shadowbringers to get it?
Yes, to get the chest piece you'll need Shadowbringers
open ember
do u need shadowbringers to get it?
Lv80 job gear so yes lol
sturdy hemlock
So do what everybody has been telling you to do
remote lintel
@maiden palm conjurer upgrades to white mage at lvl 30, arcanist is a dps until it upgrades to healer at lvl 30
open ember
Yes
remote lintel
the skirt and top are lvl 80 red mage job gear
open ember
Same thing
maiden palm
ok got it i wasnt even close
vital ruin
Can you double weave at 2.38 gcd
faint flare
Yes
vital ruin
Ping reliant?
manic flare
damn all the nice glamours are locked behind shadowbringers
faint flare
If your ping isn't shit you can double weave with anything not under 2.0s
fresh lodge
clever cave
hi, for the bitter memories step in the shb relic, can i spam leveling roulette or does that give only 1 per day?
vital ruin
Rip
faint flare
Levelling roulette is once
clever cave
ok thanks
faint flare
60 dungeons and bojza mobs are farmable
open ember
Just do antitower and leveling roulette on the side
Its only 6
unless you want other weapons
wheat plume
can I get the butterfinger mount if I live outside usa?
remote lintel
if you get someone to buy it for you
wheat plume
yeah, he sent me a pic of the receipt,
remote lintel
then probably
wheat plume
But in the page to upload it, it asks for my address, but I can't select country
wheat plume
I've read some days ago someone said it can be used for people outside US, will it work if I put in the web a fake address? Or is there another web for people outside US ?
remote lintel
there is no website for people outside the US because its a US only promotion
you can try a fake address
jolly sorrel
This mean something's wrong over at SE's or at mine?
jolly sorrel
Guess that's a yes.
gritty oracle
Also is the butterfinger thing for the chokorpokkur mount available in the EU?
zinc orbitBOT
twilit arch
code isnt region locked
wintry chasm
but the code might not be region locked
I have it on good authority that it is indeed not region locked
maiden palm
whats the deal with high resolution ui settings? the higher i put it the more zoomed in my screen is
vital ruin
Wait DRK bis doesn't use any crypt set?
twilit arch
it does
gritty oracle
Wait DRK bis doesn't use any crypt set?
our MT, who's a drk, complained that this tier is utter garbage on tanks. Iirc he's still using the aug neo-ish ring too.
vital ruin
Huh neat
twilit arch
if he's still using neo ish that's an issue
devout lichen
how do people make money in this game, I asked my fc and they said crafting which I assume is only when you are level 80 crafting, gathering which idk what you gather or expedition maps or something like that, idunno
twilit arch
you're not looking at the right BiS then
if you're looking at something that has crystarium
faint flare
This clearly has crypt
faint flare
Need
faint flare
The game stops you rolling on stuff you already own (unless it's tradeable)
jolly sorrel
how do people make money in this game, I asked my fc and they said crafting whic...
If you just want gil, doing your roulettes gets you plenty. As for crafting and gathering, it's a matter of bulk. Base ingredients sell for plenty, like logs and lumbers.
Even low level stuff
gritty oracle
how do people make money in this game, I asked my fc and they said crafting whic...
At low levels, you could gather lv50 unspoiled stuff, craft furniture, do treasure maps and sell mats from that, hope something useful drops from ventures
jolly sorrel
Is Chaos shitting itself for anyone else?
Seems to be back open
faint flare
how do people make money in this game, I asked my fc and they said crafting whic...
Sell items from Tomes and seals...check the market
vital ruin
Do fetes
gritty oracle
(also do the doman restoration if you finished SB, it's straight up free money)
devout lichen
tomes and seals? no clue what that is
vital ruin
Fetes can give a lot of gil
devout lichen
fetes?
vital ruin
And make sure you sell your soul to the diadem gods and get items via scripts
faint flare
And grand company seals
devout lichen
you can sell tome gear?
faint flare
No
vital ruin
Fetes in firmament
devout lichen
firmament?
twilit arch
you can sell crafting materials from the other section
gritty oracle
firmament?
it's a post HW crafter/gatherer thing
vital ruin
The tickets you use to buy dyes that sell well
Or if you're lucky you can get rare stuffs like general purpose dyes which is easy 240k+
gritty oracle
also beast tribe dyes and sylphic silk can sell nicely, check mb.
fresh gate
how do people make money in this game, I asked my fc and they said crafting whic...
You can make a bit of money using level 50 too given you are ok* with small profit margins, but the money does come more from level 80 and such
Level your crafters at your own pace and you can still make money out of stuff like tribe quests, selling some materials from bosses
crystal gyro
are you able to exchange items to get sack of nuts? i am item lvl 436 and only need 4 more item lvls to get to the duty for 440
vital ruin
Do this.
Get the FFXIV companion app
On there check which gathering mats sells for the most and gather them at bulk and sell them
jolly sorrel
I made one of each item between level 50 and 60, which sold for a total of 30M or so. Stuff at that level sells just fine too, its not like only endgame crafting is worth it
gritty oracle
Also if you're on ShB, I'd rush lv78 CUL and start cookie leves. 1.8M from 100 leve allowances, and you don't have to deal with undercutters
crystal gyro
its weird because some hunts are outside of the map? where its not possible to go
vital ruin
That app is really useful at making gil also not mention you get an extra favorite tp
gritty oracle
its weird because some hunts are outside of the map? where its not possible to g...
You're probably looking at a wrong map.
devout lichen
I don't think I'm really interested in leveling crafters for now
fresh gate
Wym outside of the map ?
crystal gyro
where theres not possible to go
gritty oracle
also one tip to save a lot of money: Do blue mage, do carnivale/blue logs, spend the seals on aetheryte tickets. I'm fairly sure it's saved me millions.
twilit arch
all hunts mobs are in locations you can access
fresh gate
Do you mean in Kholusia ?
There IS some places that aren’t available form the get go when you get Shadowbringers
Like the tempest and the upper half of Kholusia
faint flare
They're 436
vital ruin
Also you get kinda near to 100k just from daily roulette alone
faint flare
So they've finished shadowbringers
devout lichen
you can't have your main class and a gatherer at the same time?
faint flare
No they're their own jobs
vital ruin
U can play both in the same char
heady lily
so i just tried logging in, and it says theres 1367 people in queue, when normally there never more than 30/40. Is there an event or something or is my game bugged
vital ruin
But not at the same time
devout lichen
yeah I don't think I'm touching that then
faint flare
so i just tried logging in, and it says theres 1367 people in queue, when normal...
Chaos shat itself briefly so everyone is logging back in
fresh gate
so i just tried logging in, and it says theres 1367 people in queue, when normal...
Probably a hunt
crystal gyro
like the thistle mole. its telling me its outside the travel area. or is the whole area called that?
heady lily
ah i see ok
faint flare
Did you.map the whole area
heady lily
Probably a hunt
are hunts really that beneficial? ii thought they were used mainly for levelling and whatnot
crystal gyro
and cliffkite isnt in the area "cree"
twilit arch
areas are bigger than you think they are
fresh gate
Hunts are good for some items
faint flare
Hunts gives you tomes and currency to buy tome upgrade items
slate arrow
A and S ranks drop a ton of hunt currency which you can use to upgrade current endgame gear
fresh gate
Dyes, mats
twilit arch
where the name is, is just the generalized location of it
fresh gate
They’re not really just for leveling
twilit arch
its not Just in a small area around the name
crystal gyro
ohh i see just found him now. thanks 🙂
heady lily
okok
leaden ginkgo
Hey peeps, which dps has supportive capabilites? Just Bard and Dancer mostly?
slate arrow
All have some support, even if it's only via role actions
faint flare
!faq utility
zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
^
leaden ginkgo
Yooo thank you
latent bloom
^
A bit of an odd question, but still important. I bought 2 codes worths of butterfingers and was wanting to give them to some non Americans since these things are chiefly from here and not anywhere else. Do i have to give them the reciept containing the items, or can I give them the code after getting it from the email?
modest igloo
BRD and DNC are still mostly DPS btw
dim ridge
is the butterfingers promo over/did they close it? friend asked if
he missed it
latent bloom
Just started
faint flare
Still going
leaden ginkgo
BRD and DNC are still mostly DPS btw
I figured, seeing as they bring a lot of utility ig
dim ridge
oh i know it just started but they had like 200k codes and that's all
slate arrow
they're getting more
latent bloom
They confirmed they got more
faint flare
Twitter
dim ridge
oh nice, i didn't see that, where can I point him at to see that? oh ok the Twitter lol nice ty
leaden ginkgo
Btw, what does direct hit rate mean?
latent bloom
Twitter
slate arrow
Btw, what does *direct* hit rate mean?
Exactly that, a direct hit.
faint flare
Btw, what does *direct* hit rate mean?
Direct hit are mini critd
primal ermine
Will they do an europe version?
faint flare
They do 25% more than a regular hit
leaden ginkgo
Oh okay, interesting
faint flare
And can stack with crit for a direct crit hit
leaden ginkgo
And how is that calculated? Through a stat?
faint flare
For the big number
slate arrow
It was added later on when they removed Accuracy but didn't just remove it outright because before you needed a minimum amount of accuracy for all jobs
leaden ginkgo
Oooo nice, I see DNC has Devilment which provides 20% crit/direct hit rate?
jolly sorrel
DNC also has Dance Partner, which is a super straight up permanent damage increase
sleek spoke
hi i was ingame and it said i lost connection and now when i try to log in i cant see my character or anything and all data is just question marks? pls help im scared my character is lost in cyberspace now?? im on ps4 omega
and i cant find ps4 server status
slate arrow
no, the server connection is just congested
fresh gate
Light died
jolly sorrel
The whole Chaos datacenter is down, including the Omega server.
slate arrow
ps4 servers are PC servers
faint flare
hi i was ingame and it said i lost connection and now when i try to log in i can...
Servers seem to be shitting themselves
manic flare
The whole Chaos datacenter is down, including the Omega server.
woah what happened?
leaden ginkgo
DNC also has Dance Partner, which is a super straight up permanent damage increa...
Ooo okay, so ideally I'd use that on a BLM or SAM?
sleek spoke
oh ok, ty, thats reliefing
slate arrow
priority is in game over displaying character info due to bandwidth
manic flare
i remember there was a fire involving a French datacenter/server farm in Lyons
faint flare
Ooo okay, so ideally I'd use that on a BLM or SAM?
Yes, you ideally dance the highest dps job
manic flare
wonder if this is related
zinc orbitBOT
polar hound
!faq dncpartner
zinc orbitBOT
heady lily
omg was finally first in queue and got dced now back to 2k
leaden ginkgo
I fell for it xD
leaden ginkgo
!faq dncpartner
Ooo will bookmark that, thanks
sleek spoke
the servers are cross platform?
polar hound
thank the mentors who added it but np ^^
faint flare
Yes
remote lintel
yes
faint flare
Because trick is 60s