...welp, as expected, turning it off and on again did work. thanks for the reassurance that I wouldn't have to do those msqs again, cheers guys
#questions-and-help
primal ferry
rich bay
...welp, as expected, turning it off and on again did work. thanks for the reass...
There are some things saved locally, essentially the charachter settings, local macroes, hotbars and inventory sort settings.
You can save (and download) that on the server as well via the cog on the character selection screen.
gloomy mortar
What is the easiest extreme trial that gives 530 items?
robust notch
Need to do Eden's Promise Savage or upgrade Cryptlurker to get 530
warped nest
Extreme trials don't work the way you think they do
gloomy mortar
Any other 525 trials?
warped nest
Nope
zinc orbitBOT
warped nest
While they are all boss fights, trials and raids (not alliance raid) have different reward structure
open coral
Much like raid tiers, EX trials have a linear ilevel progression to their rewards as well.
warped nest
EX trials are stand alone fights
Raids comes in group of 4, which are referred as tiers, as Aura have mentioned
rich bay
Diamond EX is a joke compared to the previous EX fights, btw.
But it is still quite hard for the unexperienced player.
warped nest
Let's not comment on difficulty
gloomy mortar
Thanks @open coral and @rich bay 👍
vital ruin
You get byakkos mane only from the rods right
vital ruin
But in gamerscape it showed only rod
But now they removed it
So even the shield desynth can give the mat?
glossy flare
gamerscape is always a WIP, just by nature of it being a wiki
vital ruin
Goddamnit I wasted so much gil and time to get goldsmith desynth to 360 just cos gamerscape said its only aquired via rod
And now I've to level up armorer
U sure shield can give the mat right?
Or I'll just waste more gil to level armorer
gloomy mortar
WIP means what
obsidian patio
work in progress
gloomy mortar
I leveled desynth skill by desynthing tomes tone gear, which I had a lot of from farming Praetorium during the irregular tomestone event
rich bay
Goddamnit I wasted so much gil and time to get goldsmith desynth to 360 just cos...
You don't need to have ARM on desynth Level 360 for that item anymore, only class level 30.
Desynth level 360 does give a higher chance that you do get what you want.
gloomy mortar
My desynth skill is ~490. Should I still use bacon broth and tinkers calm when desynthing anything below 400?
obsidian patio
no, items that low won't level you up
vital ruin
Only reason I'm getting it at 360 is so I have a higher chance @rich bay
obsidian patio
It'll probably need to be closer to 450 or so to get any gains, which will let the buffs work
vital ruin
But I just need to be sure that shield can also give the mat
All this time it was just the rod
faint flare
Any weapon can
vital ruin
Sure right?
faint flare
Yes
vital ruin
Alright then I'll get armorer to 360
warm snow
You can only get desynth exp from items either higher level or around 50 levels below
faint flare
Nah I levelled my stuff passively doing 80 stuff when it changed
Most of my combat desynths are almost capped with the desynth of expert roulette drops
warm snow
Hardest synths to level are alchemist and cul although cul can be cheesed by fishing
polar cairn
current best way to get vextaious memory of dying?
obsidian patio
Queue up for SB 24-mans and do fates in Othard zones while in queue
rich bay
Only reason I'm getting it at 360 is so I have a higher chance <@282662248365817...
There are 2 items that buffs Desynth EXP gain.
Bacon Broth and Tinker's Calm, they both stack too.
sacred apex
Hello, can someone suggest me a macro where when I execute a Iaijutsu it will then become Tsubame-Gaeshi, and when that is executed it will go back to Iaijutsu. This is for only the execution of Iaijutsu “Tenka Goken” which will be used in my crossbar for attacking multiple enemies and not any other Iaijutsu
oak ice
Thankfully, you cannot make those macros
obsidian patio
not really possible, and if so is wildly unoptimal
heady lily
what time does the ishgard resoration reset so i can start crafting better items?
rich bay
what time does the ishgard resoration reset so i can start crafting better items...
It doesn't reset, you can just keep turning in items for leveling and Skybuilders scripts.
Or if you are curious about the Fêtes, just go to the Firmament and a timer will show when it happens again.
heady lily
wait so can you automatically start crafting better items once you hit the level?
heady lily
ahh ok i thought it was like s and p missions
rich bay
ahh ok i thought it was like s and p missions
There are some important crafting skills locked behind class quests, so don't forget those!
slate arrow
!action Manipulation
zinc orbitBOT
Powered by XIVAPI
slate arrow
this. this is important. you will love this.
heady lily
wait what that sounds insane
slate arrow
because it is
pastel nexus
Is it normal that with my dancer(520) I only deal 16k dps on end game content?
heady lily
There are some important crafting skills locked behind class quests, so don't fo...
doing all of them is sooo tedious :(((
slate arrow
for the Crafting Points it's the most efficient durability restoring skill
heady lily
is it only crp or all of them?
heady lily
ah i see
green grail
Is it normal that with my dancer(520) I only deal 16k dps on end game content?
pretty much, depends on where you're getting the 16k, like from fflogs or act, in a dungeon/24man or an 8man raid etc
heady lily
is ishgard resto good for levelling until 80 or should i switch to leves at some point?
slate arrow
resto is perfectly fine
pastel nexus
pretty much, depends on where you're getting the 16k, like from fflogs or act, i...
Umbra savage/litany savage
heady lily
ok perfect, thanks for the help 🙂
agile laurel
Umbra savage/litany savage
put the logs onto this website https://xivanalysis.com/
green grail
if you have it uploaded to fflogs then you can see your percentile in the damage tab, basically the "you did more damage than x% of dancers in this fight", thought with the tier being months old and you being at lower ilvl it'll probably be average to low, but then you can put the log link into xivanalysis
agile laurel
it will tell you what you are doing wrong
zinc orbitBOT
green grail
16k ingame through like 8 minute fight is Okay, since act can't show the dps provided to the partner
pastel nexus
how can i get the link on the ACT?
slate arrow
fflogs does fancy math rather than just tracking numbers
so if you want a more accurate sense if your performance, you should upload to FFLogs
green grail
https://www.fflogs.com/help/start you need to get the uploader here, log in when you download it and select the log file
slate arrow
ACT is best used for checking current partywide DPS since you can't really compete unless you're playing the same job(s) at the same item level
candid ruin
is there some faster way to farm poetics on 60lv other than daily duty roulette?
slate arrow
not really
candid ruin
😦 okay, thanks
next steppe
just curious, what's one of the better things to buy from the grand company to sell to the doman restoration? in terms of seal to gil ratio? Was looking at Moonstone but that doesn't really seem worth it, Urushi might be though
slate arrow
... Glacier crystals, I guess?
next steppe
oh, same value as the Urushi, so thank you. 600seals for 360gil seems like the best I can see looking over everything I can buy
vital ruin
Yea I use them during desynth @rich bay
gritty oracle
Does Kassatsu affect Doton?
robust notch
Kassatsu affects all signs
It's just a 30% bonus to the potency of the sign you use
rich bay
oh, same value as the Urushi, so thank you. 600seals for 360gil seems like the b...
Maybe this tip is useful later on.
Later on you can buy allagan pieces on the market board and flip them to the doman restoration for a profit.
next steppe
Maybe this tip is useful later on.
Later on you can buy allagan pieces on the m...
ah yeah, that's true - I figured with sales tax or whatever it wasn't worth it, but I might look into that again at some point
fading aurora
How does xp get calculated in this game? If I were to get 7 mil xp from roulette and then +400% how much would that 400% be
robust notch
+400% would mean you got 5x the exp amount, since it's additive
Whenever you get an exp drop of, let's say, 1000 exp, and it says (+100%) next to it, it would mean you got 500 exp that was doubled
glossy flare
That's the most important bit really, the game usually already tells you the adjusted number
robust notch
Yes, it does
warm snow
You'll notice that when your armoury bonus runs out mid dungeon
pseudo ether
Heya ! i was wondering something , i got all the bardings for my chocobo from uldah ... but there are others from limsa and grindania as well if i want to get them do i loose all the progress i made in uldah ? just got the squadron npc's to lvl 60 😒
warm snow
You lose rank, but keep squadron members and their levels
glossy flare
You would need to switch GCs and rank up from private again, yes
If you ever switch back to your original GC though you immediately get your old rank back
Think of it as 3 separate progression tracks you can switch between
warm snow
Also you can only equip the boarding of your current gc
pseudo ether
Ohhh okey , i thought i loose all the stuff from uldah if i switch 😮 good to know
robust notch
To make it more simple, since my sentence was a bit jumbled:
If the game says 7,000,000 exp (+400%)
Your actual exp amount BEFORE the exp boosts would be 1,400,000, but the game just tells you the adjusted amount like we mentioned, so it doesn't really matter.
fading aurora
@robust notch if I get 1 mil xp from a quest will that be like 7m+ xp?
That's what I'm trying to figure out
warm snow
Quests/roulettes don't usually get exp multipliers
Not sure if that includes road to 70 but generally they don't
robust notch
<@245462703571861504> if I get 1 mil xp from a quest will that be like 7m+ xp?
The exp reward that the quest tells you you'll get is before exp boosts.
So if you finish a quest that says it'll give you 15000 exp, and you have the Road to 70 buff, you'll get 30000 exp
But I'm pretty sure Road to 70 is the only buff that affects quest exp
leaden ginkgo
where can i find the settings,to turn off certain effects such as holy
zinc orbitBOT
slate arrow
Character Config > Control > Character > Battle Effect Settings
leaden ginkgo
thx
desert badger
Thank you :) much appreciated, will give that a go, deffo different from when I used to play back in 2016.
Thank you :)
high otter
Lore question again. ||In the end of the Dragonsong War, we got the white dragon eye, forgot his name. I guess we still possess it in the Stormblood? And will we use it at all? I mean in combat, like Estenien used Nidhogg's eyes, and not just to utilize it as aether syphon.||
warm snow
Lore question again. ||In the end of the Dragonsong War, we got the white dragon...
Pretty sure ||we gave that back ages ago||
high otter
||I already started SB, and if you're talking about Ilberd — no, he used Nidhogg's eyes. I'm talking about another dragon's SINGLE eye, that he gave to us willingly||
high otter
Pretty sure ||we gave that back ages ago||
When? There was no such a cutscene
warm snow
||I already started SB, and if you're talking about Ilberd — no, he used Nidhogg...
99% ||no one gave us an eye||
gritty oracle
||I already started SB, and if you're talking about Ilberd — no, he used Nidhogg...
||Pretty sure we gave it back as soon as the battle was done.||
gritty oracle
99% ||no one gave us an eye||
||Hraesvelgr lent us his eye to fight Nidhogg in 3.3.||
warm snow
We returned ||hraesvelgrs eye as soon as we beat nidhogg the first time in the aery||
slate arrow
We returned ||hraesvelgrs eye as soon as we beat nidhogg the first time in the a...
no, we got it back
warm snow
Completely forgot about that
fading aurora
What is the butter finger thing everyone is talking about
warm snow
Anyways it hasn't come back
high otter
So what happened? 😄
warm snow
At all
glossy flare
I don't think it was ever shown explicitly that we return it, but it is best to assume that we did. Because I can tell you 100% that it never comes up again and assuming we still have it would create weird plotholes.
Also we are the good guy
we be returning stuff
warm snow
Butter finger isdoing a sponsored collab
high otter
Eh... I was hoping there will be something involving this thing in the future, especially would be cool if you play dragoon...
warm snow
Spend 5 bucks or more on butter finger products and scan your receipt then you get codes for shit
slate arrow
maybe it will in 6.0, we don't know yet
warm snow
There's a mount you can get
fresh lodge
||Don't both get thrown off the bridge?||
warm snow
maybe it will in 6.0, we don't know yet
Considering who we work with in 5.5 I could see that but I'll stop there
glossy flare
you'll get plenty of cool abilities as a dragoon referencing the eyes though
gritty oracle
||Don't both get thrown off the bridge?||
||That's Nidhogg's eyes||
slate arrow
||Don't both get thrown off the bridge?||
||only nidhoggs||
gritty oracle
Which is a faster way to level as lv36: mob grinding in pyros, or NM farm in pagos?
fresh lodge
||Didn't Nidhogg only have 1 eye though||
twilit arch
||got both back at that point||
slate arrow
||Didn't Nidhogg only have 1 eye though||
||got his second eye back after possessing estinky||
fresh lodge
Ahhh right
fading aurora
So much spoiler chat today
Someone who is new to discord won't know why people are talking in black stripes
high otter
you'll get plenty of cool abilities as a dragoon referencing the eyes though
True, but still the only thing story lacks is distinguishing classes. Considering there are very few dialogue options, they could make at least few different cutscenes with job-unique actions or moves, tied with their origin and style
glossy flare
There exists some scenes in the story where your job is referenced via unique dialogue
Dragoon actually has the most instances of that iirc
rich bay
Mostly Healers and Dragoons get special cutscenes.
gritty oracle
True, but still the only thing story lacks is distinguishing classes. Considerin...
That'd be a nightmare to retroactively add as new classes are added, actions are removed and changed etc
glossy flare
But referencing ALL the jobs all the time would require pretty extensive writing
There are a lot of jobs after all
twilit arch
You get minor dialogue change, not special cutscenes
and again, its minor changes because one, it'd be a lot more work to add in specific job stuff and two, they don't want people to feel like they are going to miss out on something
warm snow
Soon to be combat 19 jobs, 20 if you include blu
twilit arch
either way though this isn't the place to complain about it
rich bay
I agree, it is too much for just story purposes.
Healers do get 3 special cutscenes that reflect the players job (2 in SB and 1 in ShB) but those are the only 3 i know of.
twilit arch
since we've already have this discussion
high otter
Dragoon actually has the most instances of that iirc
||In Heavensward your role as Azure Dragoon means literally nothing. Through all the dialogues, you don't have anything unique to do or say as Dragoon. Estenien just acknowledges you as one, and that's all.|| Kinda kills the immersion tbh, considering your job literally means dealing with that specific enemy and their artifacts in your own way
honest anvil
||hraesvalger (however you spell it) has both eyes in that ending of the sb raid series fwiw||
glossy flare
||In Heavensward your role as Azure Dragoon means literally nothing. Through all...
I get the criticism tbh, but I also get why it is how it is.
Either way, we're not really in the scope of this channel anymore
glossy flare
Way higher personal dps, yea
fresh lodge
MCH is a selfish dps, thus has higher pDPS
glossy flare
Machinist is sort of the "selfish" dps job among the ranged physicals
Not at all focused on buffing people
just big ol' explosions
vital ruin
It says 3/3
But in my armory chest I only have 1 item from the raid
vital ruin
Bruh
fading aurora
How difficult is the rotation on machinist?
vital ruin
What about the gear I rolled
vital ruin
How difficult is the rotation on machinist?
Easy
glossy flare
How difficult is the rotation on machinist?
not difficult, just very fast
faint flare
It's the other locked item
vital ruin
But
fading aurora
not difficult, just very fast
Faster than dancer? I already memorized the whole rotation for dancer
vital ruin
Holy shit
indigo bluff
Is there a way to set it so that I can't sell gear registered to a set? I sold my war axe by accident it seems >>
glossy flare
faster than dancer, yes
vital ruin
Dancer is not fast
faint flare
Items assigned to a gear set have a paper icon on them
vital ruin
Except the dance
glossy flare
dancer has one fast paced window where you force all your procs I guess and spend feathers like a madman
faint flare
So just kinda pay attention really
glossy flare
but that's it
warm snow
Dancer is the simplest rotation in the game
fading aurora
I'm just trying to level other classes because I don't want to waste msq xp
indigo bluff
Ohhh perfect ty
vital ruin
Good luck getting fans
fading aurora
Is there a guide for machinist rotation on ark
glossy flare
I'd recommend the weskalber guide on yt for an introduction to the job
warm snow
I'd recommend watching weak albers 30-80 guide
glossy flare
for a more detailed guide look into the balance
vital ruin
Is the tower the end to nier raids
warm snow
As balance stuff is all ensgame
faint flare
Yes
warm snow
Is the tower the end to nier raids
Yes
faint flare
Tower is the final nier raid
vital ruin
Sad 
warm snow
Always 3 there are
faint flare
There's only ever 3
leaden ginkgo
!Lamia
vital ruin
Sucks the last nier raid glamour is dog shit but meh
jolly sorrel
I remember an action comboing with BRD's Quick Nock, did they remove it or am I blind?
faint flare
Quick nook can reset rain of death
vital ruin
So I can aug my crypt now
And wait a week for the tower coin?
fading aurora
Is there a way to display ping in game?
jolly sorrel
I see, thanks
faint flare
Youll need all 3 nier coins to buy an upgrade
warm snow
Mouse over the connection icon
fresh lodge
Is there a way to display ping in game?
No
faint flare
!faq checkping
warm snow
That's as close as you'll get
zinc orbitBOT
karmic maple
Hey guys, I currently playing the trial version but I'm planning to buy the whole game. What do I need to buy? Also I need to pay a sub? So probably the base game + 2 expansions and a sub? That's a ton of money it seems
zealous phoenix
is the ffxiv butterfingers promo still up
twilit arch
complete edition is the most efficient buy for a new player, since its the base game plus expansions in one neat package
you get 30 days free and then after that you will need to pay for a sub to continue playing
strange coral
is the ffxiv butterfingers promo still up
It runs until June 30
onyx anchor
How do you complete the ACN 15 quest "Over the Rails"?
I knew what it was called
:p
agile laurel
Erm. Follow the quest journal? What is the issue?
onyx anchor
I really struggled with it last time so I wanna know how to actually complete it :p
slate arrow
what's the issue?
boreal storm
It looks like you just: “talk to npc, talk to npc, talk to npc, interact with destination, End quest.”
twilit arch
I assume they're having issue with the solo duty
strange coral
There's a solo duty in it that's was a bit difficult after the pet changes for ShB. I thought I remember they nerfed it later, but might be remembering wrong
twilit arch
which i dont remember having particular issue with it when i played thru on my alt in like 5.2~
just use topaz 🤷♀️
dot everything
strange coral
I know I struggled with it a bit. I found it easier, but slower, to use topaz carbuncle for more survivability
oak ice
I'm pretty sure they adjusted some of the ACN quests because the pets could no longer tank
twilit arch
use a fantasia
loud sage
okay
strange coral
Ah yea, found it in 5.1 notes
The parameters of enemies that appear in arcanist and summoner quests have been adjusted.
dull ingot
If I wanna get the most out of the msq story, should I be doing dungeons with thrusts to see their dialogue?
heady lily
whats the best way to get gear for crafter at around 60/70 with the large jumps in ilvl?
should i craft it? or should i be getting master craft bookds
twilit arch
the dialogue from the trusts npcs are neat, but they don't really add that much to the story
so if you wanna do the dungeons with people, that's fine
you're not missing out on anything super big by not doing the dungeon with trusts
strange coral
whats the best way to get gear for crafter at around 60/70 with the large jumps ...
At 70 Handking gear (bought with yellow scrip) will last you until you hit 80
twilit arch
for 60, its easier to just push to 61 and get the crafted/vendor set
can buy the accessories with yellow scrips tho since they are atleast universal
strange coral
At 80 you can buy handsaint gear with white scrip to get started. The level 80 master books can be bought with yellow scrip. Then you can start working on making your own aesthete gear (or buy it from the MB if you got the money)
twilit arch
though you don't need aesthete, unless your aim is to focus on doing end-game crafting
handsaint is enough fro most things
heady lily
yeah i guess it kinda is though
is exarchic gear as profitable as people make it seem
twilit arch
should still be selling decently since people coming back, good chance they'll buy it
but its definitely going to wane the longer we go into the pre-expac lul
heady lily
hmm okk
twilit arch
just keep in mind, if you do wanna craft exarchic
you're going to need to meld aesthete, which is either going to be time consuming or expensive
slate arrow
that or gather all HQ materials, which is also tedious and/or expensive
karmic maple
complete edition is the most efficient buy for a new player, since its the base ...
The complete edition is expensive? Should I wait for a sale to happen? I heard it's a new expansion coming soon.
heavy wadi
new expac isn't until fall
twilit arch
complete edition is 60$
which is same price as buying starter edition +expacs unless you find one or the other on sale
an as pointed out, we're not getting endwalker until fall (sept-oct most likely)
so you've got like 4~mos still before that happens
zinc orbitBOT
twilit arch
its entirely possible they might have a sale sometime between now and then but can't say for certain
frozen girder
ocean abyss
When i mark someone in a group or raid, does everyone else see the mark? Is it possible to mark people privately?
faint flare
Yes your party member see marks
jolly sorrel
But not alliance members
ocean abyss
thanks, i wanted to mark someone but i dont want everyone else to see it
faint flare
You can focus target them to have an arrow on them
ocean abyss
oh, i will try that! thanks
candid ruin
i died to fall dmg? i thought it is impossible?
warm snow
Were you in combat?
warm snow
All damage is lethal in battle including fall damage
leaden ginkgo
How do I track bonus dungeon/trial for light farm? (Feel free to @ me)
oak ice
You try the easy, fast dungeons and hope it's in one of them
half scarab
hello guys, where can i gen the secondary weapon for miner?
want to mine some rock 😒
slate arrow
vendors
strange coral
Vendors in the city market areas
half scarab
annd where the vendor are? 😒
ashen linden
is there a way to get the "Collect" icon on your hotbar?
green grail
like, the collection window with archives from nier and bozja?
strange coral
In a macro? Or do you mean the collect action for gatherers? Because it's gone for botanist and miner.
ashen linden
the Collect action for gathering
you can add all the collectability actions but not Collect
raven sage
Yeah it's not a button anymore
vital ruin
Can't you use macros in the shout tab
raven sage
Or rather the new collect button isn't present outside of the collection window
green grail
depends on the macro, if you shout more than 3 lines too fast it'll get blocked by the spam filter
should be the same with say and yell
if its a one line hunt relay macro or something, it will work no problem
but you cant spam image macros in shout chat thankfully
vital ruin
It was just a two line
Basically
"o/
Looking for party"
But the tab doesn't read it switches to other tab
verbal kernel
How can I find new players on discord to play ff14 with and learn?
Oh and idk if this is alowed but I’m streaming final fantasy 7 rn if anyone wants to share fallow it help!! (Valhallaszerker)
green grail
find a free company you like in #494379215420915712 , r/ffxivrecruitment or just ingame, most FCs (guilds) are just social hubs that always welcome new players
old ivy
im rather new to ffxiv almost into heavensward but i saw that i unlocked the binding coils aswell well everyone says unsynced but i rather want to experience it normally aswell is there any way to get into a raid for it still? or am i too late..
modest igloo
im rather new to ffxiv almost into heavensward but i saw that i unlocked the bin...
the coils are savage difficulty only, so doing it normally would be pretty hard
green grail
yeah about 6 or 7 years too late
you can set up a synced party with your FC or try to look for a synced-content discord but im not aware of any in EU
old ivy
oke
modest igloo
since you can only get glam from them as well most people just find a few friends and enjoy the story'
the rest of the raids have a lower difficulty so you can que for those no problem
old ivy
hm im different kind of player i think then but thanks anyway
rich bay
@old ivy
I know there are some discord groups that do old content synced, try to find them.
There are also groups of blue mages that do it synced for their logs.
leaden ginkgo
Hi guys, returning player here. I reached around midway of Heavensward and quit the game a couple years ago. Should I keep doing MSQ on my PLD or better to do on DPS for easy exp? Appreciate replies ❤️
verbal kernel
@old ivy we should play together if your new haha I’m on psn and na server
hollow violet
If you're a Mi'qote does the masked child (in containment bay unlock quests) still comment on how he knows Y'shtola because she's the only scion miqote?
modest igloo
Hi guys, returning player here. I reached around midway of Heavensward and quit ...
probably best to restart since they made the post 2.0 quests faster and added flying, unless you remember the story well. DPS also has longer ques than tank so it would take longer doing that
leaden ginkgo
probably best to restart since they made the post 2.0 quests faster and added fl...
I heard about that, how many quests do you estimate they removed from ARR? (Was a big reason of me getting burnt out to begin with)
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
Are these bots? They're appearing at level 19 in front of me then just like... vanishing into the ground.
wintry chasm
If you're a Mi'qote does the masked child (in containment bay unlock quests) sti...
If I'm reading garlandtools correctly he just says "I know of only one other Miqo'te Scion"
crystal bluff
Yes
faint flare
Yws
modest igloo
I heard about that, how many quests do you estimate they removed from ARR? (Was ...
from 120 to 80 IIRC
leaden ginkgo
Aight.
hollow violet
If I'm reading garlandtools correctly he just says "I know of only one *other* M...
simple and effective. Thanks!
leaden ginkgo
Wow, massive shave. Awesome appreciate the responses. Another question in regards to lvling alt jobs.. Is PoTD still best way?
wintry chasm
If you get long dungeon queue times yes and up to levle 60
modest igloo
!faq altlvlguide
zinc orbitBOT
wintry chasm
^
modest igloo
potd is pretty meh compared to dungeon spam
leaden ginkgo
Oooo, will bookmark this page :3
vital ruin
Daily roulette pvp gives massive xp
So do that also
leaden ginkgo
Hello.
I'm not a player (yet), but have one question:
It's possible to renew subscription on Mog Station, by using paysafecard?
Thanks for reply
slate arrow
Hello.
I'm not a player (yet), but have one question:
It's possible to renew sub...
Assuming you're on the EU version of Mogstation, yes
I don't think you can use PaySafe on NA or JP Mogstation
fresh dagger
So how much extra exp will you have in non road to 70 servers? Im planning on leveling more than 1 class while doing msq
Im on free trial btw
modest igloo
So how much extra exp will you have in non road to 70 servers? Im planning on le...
as long as you do some daily roulettes for your other class you'll have more than enough
wintry chasm
in road to 70 servers it doubles all xp gain from all sources so...you'd get that much extra xp
hollow violet
I've been able to level 2 jobs consistently without the bonus xp. One primarily through quests and a second just from the daily reoulettes
leaden ginkgo
Thanks @old ivy @slate arrow 
old ivy
np
fresh dagger
Now I just have to decide who I wanna level between DRG, PLD and DRK
leaden ginkgo
Btw, just a bit confused here. Am I getting 150 + 240 days or in total 240 days?
twin maple
You're getting 180 days gametime, but you're getting the bonus items for 150 and 240
slate arrow
Those are the veteran rewards tiers
twin maple
It's not extra gametime it's just additional rewards for subscription yeah
leaden ginkgo
Oh right right! Thanks peeps
slate arrow
You'll be getting the 150 and 240 day rewards which are gear pieces from other final fantasy protagonists
twilit arch
!faq balance
zinc orbitBOT
raven star
Got it!
leaden ginkgo
There's really no use for another character in the same world right? (As I just want one tbh) So better to go Entry sub ig
slate arrow
yep
heavy wadi
yeah you only rly need one character
slate arrow
Everything is character based so unless you're RP crazy or want to cheese the specialist system there's not really a need for alts
leaden ginkgo
Sweet not too bad then $15 AUD a month is like missing an Uber Eats meal 😛
Was Entry option always a thing? I don't remember from 2 years ago
twilit arch
yeah
leaden ginkgo
Btw, does Tonberry ever open? My main is there but my girlfriend who just got into the game might struggle to get into Tonberry
I remember it was very difficult for me to get in back in the day
old ivy
@leaden ginkgo Just make a character early in the morning
leaden ginkgo
Ah okie ty, I'll tell her to set alarm :3
old ivy
No worries 🙂
slate arrow
!status tonberry
zinc orbitBOT
slate arrow
Yeah just gotta wait
strange coral
You got the coin and cluster, but not a piece of armor I'm guessing
leaden ginkgo
Oooh, yeah, I didn't roll cause nothing came up to what i need
Is Tonberry the still go to place for English/Aussie peeps?
so the 2 in 2/3 is the armors?
twilit arch
2/3 means you've collected the weekly coin and clusters
3/3 would mean you've won a piece of gear
leaden ginkgo
Oh, yeah, sorry got confused a bit, so 1 armor it is, gotcha, thanks!
twilit arch
Is Tonberry the still go to place for English/Aussie peeps?
yep, with kujata being the overflow server for em
leaden ginkgo
Ah okie :3
midnight tinsel
deciding between starting to level a black mage or summoner
does summoner play well on controller with the pets ?
faint flare
Yes
You just put place and sic somewhere on your bar then yeet the pet hotbar out of existence
Rest of the pet skills are your own skills
midnight tinsel
ah kk
zinc orbitBOT
jolly sorrel
As BRD, at how many mobs do I stop DoTting and just use Quick Nock?
plush hound
so the 2 in 2/3 is the armors?
the current 24-man has three loot drops that are capped: A coin for upgrading, a stellacluster for grade 8 materia exchange, and a piece of armor. The first two are given automatically when you finish.
faint flare
As BRD, at how many mobs do I stop DoTting and just use Quick Nock?
Dot at least 3 mobs...you can dot more while you're running
Make sure the main target is double dotted for Shadowbites
jolly sorrel
I feel like the dots dont get their damage's worth, but the dot ticks do so much on BRD I can't math out when it stops being efficient
3 mobs it is
both dots on 3?
faint flare
They do plenty, plus the procs
slate arrow
Assuming you're in mages ballad you can do an absurd amount of damage spamming quick noct and rain of death
jolly sorrel
But only if I first dot enemies, I assume
faint flare
"why can't I hold all these procs"
slate arrow
yes, but you only have to do one
since 40% * whatever the fuck the number of mobs is and the fact each add has its own DoT timer = you'll likely get a rain of death every second or less
faint flare
You need your main target double dotted for Shadowbite potency
Pretty much just dot as much as possible while running
jolly sorrel
Loud and clear, thank you
robust crow
Loud and clear, thank you
slightly unrelated suggestion for dots, but in single target, remember to iron jaws at the end of raging strikes
so you snapshot your dots with the raging strikes buff for the full duration
also catches raid buffs too
jolly sorrel
Thanks for that, too 🙂
stable hinge
any reason why my DPS is higher but my parse is lower?
and what do the "Parses" mean?
glossy flare
your rdps is lower
crystal bluff
i could be wrong but parses is how many different times that fight has been logged
glossy flare
which is the one that counts
slate arrow
basically, DPS is just raw numbers, all buffs and status effect sincluded
rDPS is your DPS post calculated for buffs
So if you have dance partner, for example, it skims off 5% of your DPS and gives it to the Dancer
slate arrow
probably, but I'm not sure how crit damage is calculated since crit damage is determined by your crit stat, which increases both rate and damage
robust crow
part of your damage when under raid buffs like devilment will instead count towards the dancer's part
robust crow
yeah that's what rDPS is
stable hinge
battle litany too I assume?
robust crow
yes
slate arrow
correct
stable hinge
Man
glossy flare
all raidbuffs basically
crystal bluff
any buffs
robust crow
any raidwide buffs count some of the added damage toward the provider
glossy flare
rDPS is what you actually contribute to the whole group
robust crow
correct me if i'm wrong but "Parses" is the number of parses submitted at the time of your ranking
fading aurora
If dps add-ons etc are not allowed why do 99% of people have it lok
glossy flare
I think so, yeah
fading aurora
Lol*
glossy flare
because as long as you don't talk about it ingame you won't get banned
robust crow
If dps add-ons etc are not allowed why do 99% of people have it lok
this is very false, 99% of people do NOT have it
glossy flare
but yeah, stuff like ACT is only really useful in endgame stuff
robust crow
you might be more correct in saying 60%+ of all SAVAGE raiders will have it
glossy flare
Where, however, it can be VERY helpful to your own improvement
fading aurora
They should just make add-ons legal like in wow
unkempt shard
hey, would you rather recommend tank or heal for a (rather) new player?
stable hinge
I'm on console so I rely on others to do it for me😎
robust crow
yep
glossy flare
hey, would you rather recommend tank or heal for a (rather) new player?
both are fine
robust crow
that's exactly why i said 60%
you have to account for the people on console who can't parse
but still run savage
crystal bluff
cant see how bad your damage is if you dont run ACT 
robust crow
you can if someone else does 
robust crow
They should just make add-ons legal like in wow
to elaborate further, this is specifically a gray area and square enix has communicated their stance on it
remote lintel
they won't make them legal
robust crow
as long as you don't talk about parsing in-game or harass other players for being bad, they won't punish you for parsing
don't ask, don't tell
faint flare
Making them legal could potentially put Consoles at a disadvantaged unless they were directly added to the game
So they can't really
open ember
Pretty sure there's absolutely no way to use external add-ons on Console without getting in trouble
slate arrow
it's basically a direct way to prevent toxic behaviour, at least in game. Assuming you can beat the SSS dummy anyways, you're probably good enough for raid content. you won't be great but good enough.
robust crow
well
people will definitely let you know if you aren't good enough if you enter savage
the question is how nice they are about it
open ember
I never seen that but ok
robust crow
i mean
if you are serious about doing savage
then you have to play at least to an acceptable level if you ever want to get anywhere
fading aurora
We did a raid yesterday and a guy was arguing because the new players didn't read a 9 page guide on the boss
open ember
They'll just tell you "not clearable with this comp" and move on
fading aurora
Why are some people like that
slate arrow
it's just NA raiding culture
unless you specifically state blind prog everyone assumes you watched or read a guide
fading aurora
@robust crow I don't remember I'm still new so don't know the boss names
open ember
9 page guide lol that person is trolling
robust crow
surely you know what encounter it was
onyx anchor
Does Elusive Jump (DRG) do any damage or just jumps back 15 yalms?
fading aurora
The medusa looking boss
modest igloo
JP raid culture is 3 wipes and instant disband
twilit arch
Does `Elusive Jump` (DRG) do any damage or just jumps back 15 yalms?
just jumps you back
robust crow
the expectation for anyone joining a savage raid, even if they were completely new, is that they've at least watched part of a video on the boss
heavy wadi
DPS add-ons were used to bully/abuse people in the past so they made them against the ToS. People still use them, but just for self-improvement, not for anything else.
fading aurora
9 page guide lol that person is trolling
He was arguing with everyone lmao
robust crow
"medusa looking boss" sounds like e9s
modest igloo
Well heck that guy then, put him on your blacklist
little swift
Useful for evading full AoE moves
do it in reverse, walk out of the aoe and elusive jump back in after
open ember
There's no "9 page guide" for anything in this game. They were finding excuse to be mad at everyone. Just blacklist and move on
robust crow
There's no "9 page guide" for anything in this game. They were finding excuse to...
err that's just incorrect lol
heavy wadi
There's no "9 page guide" for anything in this game. They were finding excuse to...
not true, ultimates have long ass guides, others have a long guides as well
zinc orbitBOT
robust crow
there are TONS of guides, particularly optimization or ultimate guides that are way longer than 9 pages
like literally tons
primal ermine
Doesn't hello world have multiple pages?
hoary kayak
lmao let me read this masters thesis before i play a video game
robust crow
idk man I think that guy is justified to be upset that people didn't read a guide on the boss
slate arrow
By the way, this is questions and help.
robust crow
maybe he was an ass about it
onyx anchor
do it in reverse, walk out of the aoe and elusive jump back in after
I pray that you're not being serious
That seems very impractical
slate arrow
🙂
onyx anchor
Stylish, but impractical
open ember
Not for a savage it does not require a 9 page guide. For ultimate its different
faint flare
Ultimates are long guides
timber fossil
is maxing out chocobo level worth it? does it actually help a lot more, say while doing fates alone.
little swift
I pray that you're not being serious
That seems very impractical
i'm serious thats actually the better way to do it
robust crow
Not for a savage it does not require a 9 page guide. For ultimate its different
savage absolutely does have numerous guides longer than 9 pages
heavy wadi
Savage definitely has longer than 9 page guides.
little swift
jumping out runs you the risk of jumping off the edge of an arena
robust crow
i mentioned optimization guides, there's mitigation guides, specific class guides...all for savge
little swift
but jumping backwards towards a boss to re-engage is better and safer
robust crow
but anyway yeah this is probably #general-discussion territory
leaden ginkgo
Im a bit confused about attack telegraphing.
I was doing the hall of novice attack avoidance training and i clearly moved away from the AoE but the attack still hit me; specially the circle AoE. I cleared it but i had to move to the other side of the arena to not get hit.
So i guess this basically boils down to: do attacks cover more space than the AoE indicates?
twilit arch
is maxing out chocobo level worth it? does it actually help a lot more, say whil...
you don't really need a maxed chocobo, but if you can get onions for cheap its nice to have. that said you do get 2 onions for free from heavensward side quests
fading aurora
maybe he was an ass about it
He certainly was lol , some people like to play a game blind and experience the mechanics as they happen and when they die they expect to be forgiven but that guy didn't have the forgiveness aspect
little swift
He certainly was lol , some people like to play a game blind and experience the ...
this is dependent on the encounter and how you went into it
heavy wadi
He certainly was lol , some people like to play a game blind and experience the ...
This is several months into the tier, you don't join encounters blind at this point. Especially with random people in PF.
onyx anchor
jumping out runs you the risk of jumping off the edge of an arena
Aye, but I usually only do Dungeons at this level anyway, and I can't really 'fall off'
little swift
if its a savage fight, people expect you come prepared unless you enter a specifically specified "blind pf"
robust crow
He certainly was lol , some people like to play a game blind and experience the ...
that's understandable, but if you specifically want to blind prog you need to make that clear in the party description. if you are entering a savage of any kind, at least skimming a 9 page guide isn't that big of an ask (and you really should watch a video)
little swift
you're disrespecting other people's time doing that
timber fossil
you don't really need a maxed chocobo, but if you can get onions for cheap its n...
i just got my medium plot (finally), and i'm thinking of crossbreeds for onions. but don't know if i want to go through the hassle and only gain a minimal benefit out of it.
heavy wadi
Coming into a savage PF blind when it wasn't blind just means you're wasting other people's time, maybe he was a dick but he was right to be annoyed that you didn't know the fight if that was the case.
little swift
Aye, but I usually only do Dungeons at this level anyway, and I can't really 'fa...
there are dungeons and msq trials where you can fall off so just keep it in mind that thats the better way to do it
twilit arch
hmm i would atleast check the prices on onions first
robust crow
let me mention that clearing e9s for the first time will take, on average, between 6 to 10 hours of raid time
assuming fresh
timber fossil
hmm i would atleast check the prices on onions first
is 120k/onion sound about right?
twilit arch
not the worst, definitely not as expensive back in the day
timber fossil
that seems quite a bit cheaper than i thought
fading aurora
The thing is some people have work and when they come home and have like 3 hrs to play they want to actually play the game and not read an essay on a boss. But sometimes it is needed and they are in the wrong for not doing it. But doesn't mean u need to be a dick to others when you could teach them instead 🙂
jolly sorrel
This isn't a rant channel.
heavy wadi
^
twilit arch
don't forget you can also world hop to check other server's prices
robust crow
The thing is some people have work and when they come home and have like 3 hrs t...
i agree there's no need to be an ass to people, but if you want to do savage then you should be prepared for the commitment
slate arrow
is 120k/onion sound about right?
That's the average according to universalis yeah
fading aurora
This isn't a rant channel.
I was answering back to renaulte
timber fossil
if i'm understanding it correctly, i believe each onion is used to "break the level limit" right?
slate arrow
!mute @robust crow 30m not dropping the topic
zinc orbitBOT
slate arrow
!mute @fading aurora 30m
zinc orbitBOT
twilit arch
mhm
so you need 10 total
only need to buy 8 if you do the two side quests i mentioned
timber fossil
so you break the limit, and you just level it like usually, and once it's maxed again, eat another onion, and repeat.
slate arrow
yep
twilit arch
exactly
slate arrow
if you want to make your own onions yeah you have to do breeding which requires a house
timber fossil
yeah i do have a house. but kinda takes a crap ton of time.
twilit arch
are the two side quests that give onion
first one is a fairly quick one, the 2nd is part of a quest chain
timber fossil
just spent 17 mil on a medium plot. can't hurt with some free onions. thanks @twilit arch, big help
twilit arch
no problem
jolly sorrel
Does there exist lv70 job gear for DNC?
slate arrow
no
jolly sorrel
Alas
slate arrow
use Scaevan gear at 70
minor dagger
Scaevan aiming -- they do have their own weapon in the Poetics shop in Kugane...
glossy flare
Is there a shortcut to mute the game?
slate arrow
/mastervolume i think
without any subcommands it just toggles between your last setting and zero, I think
glossy flare
thanks!
zinc orbitBOT
stable hinge
hypothetically if 8 paladins covered each other during a raidwide what would happen?
gleaming mist
they each take the damage intended for their target
remote lintel
damage ception
gleaming mist
so if pld 1 and 2 cover each other, then they each take 1 instance of damage
stable hinge
I mean they cover each other in a circle
remote lintel
they would all still take damage
stable hinge
1 > 2 > 3 > 4 > 5 > 6 > 7 > 8 > 1
remote lintel
because everyone is getting hit, it just transfers the dmg
gleaming mist
they each take 1 instance of damage
stable hinge
what about for tankbusters?
gleaming mist
if it was a cleave buster, all of them take 1 instance of damage
if it's a single target buster and the party covers each other like before
then uhhh
remote lintel
can multiple plds cover 1 target
gleaming mist
if it's 1 taking the tb, then only 8 takes the damage
stable hinge
I need to try this out
gleaming mist
multiple plds can prob cover 1 target
never tried
not sure if the covered status stacks
remote lintel
lets break the game
gleaming mist
ok so if more than 1 cover is applied to the target, then the last one will be overwritten
apparently
glossy flare
can confirm
agile laurel
what is notable is if a pld covers a target from an attack with adverse effects, and the pld also gets hit by it, the effect doubles
glossy flare
it follows the usual "buffs with the same name" guideline
agile laurel
so if a kb attack is covered, the pld takes double the strength of kb. ask me how i know.
wintry chasm
kb being?
faint flare
Knockback
wintry chasm
Ah
faint flare
See Shinyru clips of paladin covering during the platform yeet
They go fucking flying
glossy flare
Not really relevant to the question, but the same is true for effects that knock your character up. So you can fly pretty high as a PLD
faint flare
now introducting Paladin express, get to your destination in 30mins or less or your money back
open ember
leaden ginkgo
hello guys, i was wondering if somebody can tell me if you get 30 days with square enix store im still in the process of downloading but i registered a trial account on square enix and it seems steam doesnt have the free trial but the game is 10e with the first expansion included and 30 days of premium game time, while the store is listing the basic game with no sub included for 40e...
storm kelp
All equipments have a chance to be on somebody's GC submission,correct? And GC submission is the primary demand for leveling equipment?
glossy flare
the free trial is indefinitely and only the complete edition includes 30 days of sub time
slate arrow
hello guys, i was wondering if somebody can tell me if you get 30 days with squa...
Steam's free trial is listed as a Demo
slate arrow
All equipments have a chance to be on somebody's GC submission,correct? And GC s...
Expert Deliveries allows you to submit any dungeon gear after a certain level
jolly sorrel
Leveling equipment is also great for leveling Desynthesis
open ember
You only get 30 days free if you complete edition and I believe the starter edition?
But that also means your free trial account is no longer a "free trial" account
It gets upgrades to a subscription/paid account
strange coral
Starter edition includes 30 days whether you buy it from Steam or the SE Store
storm kelp
Expert Deliveries allows you to submit any dungeon gear after a certain level
Not my qns. I am curious what drives people to buy equipment off MB.
faint flare
Convenience
storm kelp
Mainly driven by laziness to level crafters right?
heavy wadi
It's often for crafter GC turnins, people would rather buy things that are HQ to get double exp.
storm kelp
Leveling alt battle classes...ppl wont buy random lvl 54 or 66 ewuipments right?
Do you?
slate arrow
sometimes
leaden ginkgo
@slate arrow ok thank you, is it better to get it on steam then?
leaden ginkgo
yeah i know
fading aurora
@leaden ginkgo steam does have free trial
leaden ginkgo
but the price of xpac is same
fading aurora
It's just not very visible
leaden ginkgo
can mentors add players on trial into novice chat?
both on the enix store and steam
the only difference here is that steam has 30 days of sub + the base game + 1st expansion for 10e
storm kelp
Thanks for input
inland crystal
i'm sorry but what does "Earth Time" mean? what timezone are they talking about?
storm kelp
Pyramid scheme of crafters indeed
leaden ginkgo
while the store only has a 40e deal with all the expansions other than the last one
slate arrow
what?
leaden ginkgo
never been so confused in my life tbh
inland crystal
can mentors add players on trial into novice chat?
yeah, i'm on trial and i received an invite for novice chat
fading aurora
King no clue what u are trying to explain lol
slate arrow
leaden ginkgo
its cheaper for me
slate arrow
That's because FFXIV on steam has regional pricing
leaden ginkgo
found the demo
storm kelp
40e as in 40euro?
leaden ginkgo
wintry chasm
i'm sorry but what does "Earth Time" mean? what timezone are they talking about?
Earth time is your local time
leaden ginkgo
yeah but
for me the square enix is offering
the same thing steam is offering for 10e
for 40e xD
inland crystal
Earth time is your local time
oh! Thanks ❤️
strange coral
The one on the SE store is the same price.
fading aurora
Are u sure you're not looking at the expansion instead of the game
leaden ginkgo
yeah
fading aurora
On the website
slate arrow
All good, lmao.
leaden ginkgo
i just saw the list xD
strange coral
Starter edition still comes with 30 days and first expansion. Doesn't matter which site you buy it from.
leaden ginkgo
aaa ok so the 40 e pack includes all of it
strange coral
And complete includes starter in it
leaden ginkgo
all the expansions cool ok ty
storm kelp
Huh isnt heavensward in free trial now?
fading aurora
U can play trial unlimitedly and level all classes to 60 @leaden ginkgo
If u want to try the game first
strange coral
Yes, HW is in the trial and starter edition both
leaden ginkgo
I’m currently rebuilding the school. How much more is left in rebuilding Doma before I actually get something out of it
storm kelp
Whats the reason for buying starter over just sticking to free trial?
wintry chasm
Not a lot IIRC Suzume
leaden ginkgo
@fading aurora i was doing that
wintry chasm
Whats the reason for buying starter over just sticking to free trial?
You don't have to deal with the free trial restrictions. That's it
fading aurora
Whats the reason for buying starter over just sticking to free trial?
Your gil is capped at 300k and u can't buy stuff on market
zinc orbitBOT
wintry chasm
This has a list
leaden ginkgo
its just it takes about 10 hours for my internet to download it and i saw the price difference between steam and Square enix site so i came here to ask why, so i cna start downloading it on steam instead, glad i came, 🙂
storm kelp
Wow thats minimal benefit choosing starter over free trial
leaden ginkgo
but yeah culdbe moore than 10 xD
storm kelp
Considering sub starts with startee
leaden ginkgo
@storm kelp i suggest u watch the pined video
i saw it before i came to discord, everything is explain between the free and paid
fading aurora
@storm kelp just play trial and if u like it buy the expansions at the same time as the game which would be better than just buying base game now
agile laurel
yeah slow internet :/
you may want to consider downloading the third party XIV Quick Launcher. it doesn't throttle downloads as badly.
unless this is actually your internet and not the atrocious throttling of the launcher
leaden ginkgo
well i can reach 1-2mbps max
i cant go faster either way, im happy our village even has internet...
leaden ginkgo
wish i had that speed
random girder
i pay for 100 but get like 60 on a good day :) us internet 
strange coral
Is my dancer exarchic armor good for a MCH aswell?
Yes
random girder
Is my dancer exarchic armor good for a MCH aswell?
yes aiming is for all phys ranged
leaden ginkgo
i pay for 1, sometimes i get 2, 😄
fading aurora
@random girder I had 1000mbs before I moved to this house last year , and this area does not have fiber
So I'm stuck with around 100
leaden ginkgo
i guess il play tommorrow, i can also ask, how often can you change your class, is it hard to do? because i saw a few videos and i wana test the summoner and archer class
random girder
i hope wherever i move has fiber
leaden ginkgo
i lived in a city i had 300mbps, now we built a house in a village, after everything was done i realized theres no internet covarage since the village is small so 🙂
wintry chasm
i guess il play tommorrow, i can also ask, how often can you change your class, ...
Once you hit level 10 on your starting class and do your level 10 class quest you can unlock every other class in the game. For most of those jobs though you'd need access to the other city-states so that's a main story requirement but that's not that bad
leaden ginkgo
ah
wintry chasm
After that it's just swapping weapon. Really easy
leaden ginkgo
ok thank you, so far im only interested in those two, but when i actually play alot can change
fading aurora
Once you hit level 10 on your starting class and do your level 10 class quest yo...
Well not really every class in game since some only begin at level 50 or 60
wintry chasm
Of course worth mentioning that they all level separately
wintry chasm
Well not really every class in game since some only begin at level 50 or 60
Those are jobs not classes
slate arrow
no, they literally don't have a base class
slate arrow
No, they're a job.
leaden ginkgo
the only issue i have is that the archer changes into a bard >_>
fading aurora
Do u need a fantasia potion to change hair?
strange coral
A bard is still an archer, just one that also plays music
little swift
Do u need a fantasia potion to change hair?
no
leaden ginkgo
yeah but i like rangers/archers/sharpshooters, i hate bards xD
lapis lagoon
Do u need a fantasia potion to change hair?
No, there's a aesthetician you can unlock
wintry chasm
Do u need a fantasia potion to change hair?
There is an unlockable hairdresser ^
little swift
unless you're viera or hrothgar
leaden ginkgo
especialy since i saw the witcher series
wintry chasm
unless you're viera or hrothgar
Just Hroth
fading aurora
Where do I unlock hair dresser
little swift
true just hroth
heavy wadi
just hroth, viera can swap hair
little swift
!quest beauty is only scalp deep
zinc orbitBOT
fading aurora
I'm viera
wintry chasm
Oh right we have that command now
little swift
make sure you've done the quest from above
then you can approach any crystal bell that you can interact with
fading aurora
Omw now
wintry chasm
You can find crystal bells in the innrooms you can get to by talking to the innkeeps in the bars
fading aurora
Are crystal bells in cities?
little swift
yes in inns
fading aurora
Ok ty
fading aurora
Why is it only viera and broth can swap hair
Is it cuz they are newer races
Hroth*
little swift
no you're misinterpretting the statement
hrothgar can only swap hair with the use of fantasia
because their hairstyle is locked to face type
little swift
as in just hrothgar need fantasias to swap
wintry chasm
That's because Channy was trying to say Viera can't swap hair with the hairdresser which was wrong
little swift
yah i made an error and corrected myself
little swift
robust crow
fading aurora
Why does it say 0 days subed even doe I've been subbed for like 15
slate arrow
free play days dont count
little swift
are you not on the 30 days included in the base game
robust crow
pretty sure it updates in increments of 30
fading aurora
I think I'm still on the 15 they gave me for reaching 30
robust crow
ohh, then yeah
slate arrow
those are free play days
fading aurora
I haven't started the ones I paid for yet
fading aurora
One last question, can you glamour higher level skins than your characters current weapon?
slate arrow
no
mental oracle
Why does grade 1 materia cost like 2k? that's like 20 times what I pay for grade 5
little swift
its less easily obtainable
slate arrow
because you need grade 1 through 4s for the ARR relic, and only randomly drops from low level gear materia extraction
5s and onwards can be consistently gotten from raids and other activities
mental oracle
oh
zinc orbitBOT
gleaming finch
is there a channel here where new players hang out?
little swift
its more a of help channel, and less of a discussion channel
new players are all over the server
prime pond
So I got a probably stupid question (but noob gonna be noob)
So regarding hard/extreme trials
Can you only get a chance at the weapon loot through roulette or is roulette just quicker to sit through than queue for the specific trial
remote lintel
you dont queue for EXs
modest igloo
So I got a probably stupid question (but noob gonna be noob)
So regarding hard/e...
hard trials are just normal difficulty ones btw
and you use party finder for EX's
remote lintel
you get a chance at loot just by completing the duty
little swift
if oyu're after a specific msq related trial loot, just queue for it directly
if you're after extreme trial stuff, make a pf or unsync it yourself
remote lintel
roulettes just put you into a random duty with an exp bonus
normal plank
is there any way to quickly level up another class (one that starts at level 1, not level 30 like arcanist)
remote lintel
thats it
little swift
!faq altlvlguide
zinc orbitBOT
prime pond
ty all!
normal plank
if you are on free trial does that still apply?
modest igloo
yep
leaden ginkgo
i wish this game had the download while u play feature
il die before this thing finishes
lethal mist
It kinda does. It's called "play another game while it downloads" feature 😉
scarlet sandal
Is The Relic or diamond swords the supposed to be better I have no idea because Relic substats have more that I don't know
slate arrow
diamond weapon is better
leaden ginkgo
@lethal mist id have to download another game then xD
slate arrow
weapon damage > everything else
lethal mist
Don't you mean "main stat" as in STR above everything else?
modest igloo
they are both the same
faint flare
Weapon damage is even better than main stat
lethal mist
Huh TIL
faint flare
But higher weapon damage stuff always has more main stat
modest igloo
but the two never deviate from eachother yeah
faint flare
Weapon damage is king
fallen niche
So is 5.55 next tuesday or the one after that
faint flare
Late may
slate arrow
after fanfest for sure
gleaming finch
so as a new player, am i just grinding MSQ and leveling up my main class?
slate arrow
and doing your job quests
gleaming finch
wait till late game for other classes, etc?
faint flare
Yes
gleaming finch
k cool, late game has some other fun stuff? the MSQ stuff will feel like a grind after a while
slate arrow
you can start early if you like, but alt leveling is much easier once you reach postgame and unlock additional content
such as deep dungeons and bozja at 71-80
lethal mist
You don't have to but you'd cripple yourself if you started a new job that's gonna have to level up again just to catch up
gleaming finch
makes sense
remote lintel
theres multiple points where you can change class
gleaming finch
late game content is pretty fun?
lethal mist
Depends really
modest igloo
the tier has been out for a while but it's pretty fun for me rn
gleaming finch
yeah the idea of raids and such seems fun
i enjoy them as I am leveling up right now, almost level 30
enjoying dungeons, etc*
agile laurel
the story will begin to pay for itself after a while
agile laurel
ARR is like JoJo part 1, it's rare to find people who actually like it
lethal mist
I just think there are far too many currencies and steps to upgrading certain items. Like going from Exarchic to Augmented Exarchic. The currencier I don't really have to start on and the shops with a gazillion menus holy crap.
remote lintel
i find this game has less currencies and systems than like every other mmo tbh
modest igloo
yeah this game has less than other MMO's for what i've seen
lethal mist
"Has less" doesn't mean it's good tho. You might be right, but it's still damn too many.
modest igloo
its just revelation and nier coins/nuts
remote lintel
and in the case of augmenting exarchic you only hold as many tickets as you need
theyre more like trade items than a currency
gleaming finch
I should be paying attention to every story aspect of the MSQ as I go through it?
it's really that good?
heavy wadi
yes
remote lintel
ideally
gleaming finch
cool, i'll try to read more lol
heavy wadi
early game is mostly setup so it's not as interesting but once you get to heavensward i'd really start paying attention
agile laurel
I should be paying attention to every story aspect of the MSQ as I go through it...
ARR is a lot of setup. It's the world building arc. However, it does make the later parts more enjoyable
gleaming finch
cool, i'll make sure i baseline better
thanks all
i'im excited to turn into a dragoon shortly 🙂
lethal mist
No it's not, especially if you have more than 1 job. Revelations for late game, Poetics for 60/70 and then the white ones, whatever they're called. Then there are nuts, then seals, then whatever else I've forgotten.
The part about exarchic is that you change in the gear, get item, you then change currency for second item, use both of your new items to buy the new gear. Why couldn't they simply have "Take your old gear + new item, hand to NPC and receive new augmented gear". Also again, the menuuuuuuus
agile laurel
like i ain't gonna say ARR is the most engaging gripping section of the game
it isn;t
nobody would agree
however, it's plot
gleaming finch
true
heavy wadi
No it's not, especially if you have more than 1 job. Revelations for late game, ...
this is not #rants.
agile laurel
er, edit: 'nobody would disagree' with what i said
remote lintel
the game is entirely based on patterns
poetics for old gear, 2 tomes for current gear always
then they cycle those out
its always the same cycle
when endwalker comes out all shb tome gear will be poetics, and we will have 2 new tomes for lvl 90
lethal mist
this is not <#423236689599660032>.
Sorry was answering the whole "late game content is pretty fun?" question posted and it got a bit longer.
heavy wadi
And the answer is that it is subjective. Generally it's pretty fun.
crystal bluff
also depends on what kind of content youre looking for
leaden ginkgo
why do botters never get banned and if you report them too much you go to GM jail?
remote lintel
bots are banned in waves
heavy wadi
they use stolen accounts
leaden ginkgo
I've also noticed mentors fiercely defend botting on reddit and ingame
agile laurel
mentor program does not audit you for being a fucking moron
=/= they're right
agile laurel
it's cruel, but never accept that mentors are any more or less authoratitive than any regular player
slate arrow
there's a reason why burger king crown is a meme on NA
agile laurel
i mean ingame ofc, our mentors here are fine
heavy wadi
ye the mentors here are chill
leaden ginkgo
i'll copy paste something I found in a video
My boyfriend was an avid miner, and always has alarms sounding off every time he plays the game. He and another FC member of mine noticed botters around the mining nodes, and tried to report them countless times. It's fairly easy to spot, because they don't glamour their gear, they have the same exact routine every time a node spawns, they never respond to anything you do. Once they finish mining, they just stand at the node or mount up and fly to the next. We followed these botters for a few days and can confirm that their whole route was scripted because they never go back to town or stop mining at all. You can kind of break their script by trading them once they finish mining, but they will never respond to you giving them items and just get stuck at the same spot for a long time and eventually turn on busy mode.
After days of reporting these botters, and calling them out at the nodes, he was brought into GM jail for hate speech, because he called botters incompetent at a mining node. The following day his account was hacked, our FC gil stolen, and it took him 2 months to get his account back. We live together by the way, so I saw everything. He only comes back to refresh his housing timer these days, and it's disheartening.
Mentors themselves use bots, and that's an issue in itself. People who enable such practices should be called out. I can understand not wanting to put effort into mining, but getting a return regardless by using a bot, is that really fair play? It's game breaking not for the botter, but for those who do not use bots, put in the hard work, and try to earn gil from the market board.
same happened to me minus the hacking
remote lintel
like i said bots are banned in weekly waves
reporting them individually doesnt do much
slate arrow
all you can really do is just ignore em and move on
heavy wadi
^
agile laurel
also i hate to be initially suspicious, but it's very rarely the case that someone is put in gm jail unjustly
remote lintel
honestly just initiate a trade with them to break them
leaden ginkgo
If im on Hyperion, can i join a FC that is on Behemoth? Or do we both have to be on Hyperion or Behemoth?)
slate arrow
both have to be on hyperion
faint flare
If im on Hyperion, can i join a FC that is on Behemoth? Or do we both have to be...
No
remote lintel
FCs are tied to home world
agile laurel
it always starts as 'but i didn't do anything' and ends as 'and then i said the gamer word 12 times'
heavy wadi
don't let them bother you, they will be banned eventually, but it's like trying to dam a river during a flood
leaden ginkgo
Sad
bold wraith
So question about Samurai, dancer etc, I know you have to hit level 50, to unlock Samurai for example, do i have to progress to a certain part in the story, or can I just do it ?
agile laurel
nope, no msq req
faint flare
No story
bold wraith
thanks
remote lintel
no msq requirement
agile laurel
only the heavensward jobs have a msq requirement
heavy wadi
^
modest igloo
honestly just initiate a trade with them to break them
i tried that the other day, and they just canceled in like 10 secs, and went back to botting
heavy wadi
only ast, mch, and drk require msq progress
agile laurel
later expac jobs do not, because square realised that's a terrible idea
leaden ginkgo
it always starts as 'but i didn't do anything' and ends as 'and then i said the ...
I don't talk to anyone ingame, I play with my buddy in a 2 people FC because he tells me if you speak you get banned, i'm mute
bold wraith
yeah im going through the main story
remote lintel
"if you speak you get banned" is a comical exaggeration
agile laurel
I don't talk to anyone ingame, I play with my buddy in a 2 people FC because he ...
i'll say again. people who say they got punished by GMs for nothing are 99% lying to save face
I have NEVER seen it