lmao
#questions-and-help
pulsar escarp
glossy flare
Oh yeah, not hard at all
pulsar escarp
I did tank for my first
glossy flare
Just confuses some ppl
opaque fiber
About getting to 80, is it better to do leveling roulette or highest dungeon for a lvl 76 being in post SB
quick scroll
guys when i use enmity abilities on single targets does aggro effects the other enemies to
shut panther
guys when i use enmity abilities on single targets does aggro effects the other...
No
pulsar escarp
well
glossy flare
guys when i use enmity abilities on single targets does aggro effects the other...
No
pulsar escarp
levelling roulette once a day
quick scroll
o ty
opaque fiber
aight
pulsar escarp
and then highest for you in lvl 76 as long as it's not a 50/60/70 dungeon
like, 69 (nice) dungeon
if you're in post SB
opaque fiber
Why not 70
opaque fiber
Oh, dang
pulsar escarp
when it first came out or smth
opaque fiber
Good to know, ty!
pulsar escarp
np, same applies to others
shut panther
But keep in mind with tank stance up your enmity multiplier is X5 so for example on war you can do your AOE combo once before you put up storms eye if you're concerned about losing threat at the start of a dungeon pull
glossy flare
You can even aoe at 2+ targets if you are lazy
though alternating targets is technically more dps... I think
Never really looked at the numbers
pulsar escarp
it is
shut panther
No, at 2+ your basic AOE combo is higher damage
shut panther
ST spenders are better though
shut panther
On tank at two targets your basic AOE combo does more than your st combo
sour slate
oh shit
shut panther
But your resource spenders are still better on ST
glossy flare
Which is honestly just qol
so you don't have to alternate targets for aggro purposes
sour slate
ive been playing wrong oops
glossy flare
Not that losing aggro is easy
shut panther
So for example on war you use your mythril Tempest, but use fell cleave
pulsar escarp
it's not too big of a deal
wait, what if you don't have your combo yet
- drk, who gets it at mid 70, for some reason
shut panther
That I don't know. I'm strictly speaking at 80.
pulsar escarp
fair enough
glossy flare
72 
pulsar escarp
still very late 
sour slate
pld gap closer at 70 something 
shut panther
I think for drk it might be the opposite before 72 -- stick to st combo but use the AOE mp spender
glossy flare
Okay, a full 1-2-3 drk combo is 900 potency. While 3x unleash is just 450 potency
That is actually... a huge difference
But it evens out at 2 targets
pulsar escarp
yep
glossy flare
So at 2 targets you can do whatever
finite topaz
But it evens out at 2 targets
do not forget the gauge generation
AoE generates more gauge, on 2+ targets
pulsar escarp
we'll get there
glossy flare
I am talking pre 72
shut panther
I think he's talking before 73
finite topaz
Oh okay
glossy flare
unleash doesn't generate gauge
finite topaz
Then yes, before 72 on 2 targets, you use single-target
glossy flare
so single target is actually better at 2 targets
finite topaz
on 3 targets tho? AoE away
glossy flare
but worse at 3
pulsar escarp
wild
shut panther
Which you should do st on two targets if not for gauge but for some sort of stimulation
pulsar escarp
DRk's combo being so late is cruel
shut panther
Because you spend 80% of the dungeon pressing unleash
pulsar escarp
also, I got a blood gauge midway througha dungeon in SB and I was like.... oh god, how do I use this thing again
finite topaz
!action flood of darkness
shut panther
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glossy flare
I mean even with stalwart soul it's just 460 potency
Just barely better at 2 targets
finite topaz
hmmh... this is good on 2+ targets
glossy flare
- gauge
shut panther
yeah the difference between st and AOE on two is minimal
It's nothing to really be too concerned about
finite topaz
i mean, for stalwart
shut panther
You should still be using St gauge abilities until 3 targets though
finite topaz
it generates more gauge, cuz say 2 singletarget combos is 6 GCDs and generates 40 gauge, 3 AoE combos are 6 GCDs and generates 60 gauge and a lil bit more potency
finite topaz
can we shorten this
pre 72, AoE on 3+ enemies, post 72 AoE on 2+ enemies
sour slate
26403660
pulsar escarp
thank u thank u
glossy flare
Use aoe at 2+ targets but only use aoe gauge spenders at 3+
pre 72 is weird
fuck drk
pulsar escarp
pre 72 drk.. sadness
finite topaz
!action edge of darkness
glossy flare
It's my main, I'm sorry
wicked blade
I'm just curious! I've cleared no problem already.
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pulsar escarp
pre 70 drk is just depression
sour slate
pre 80 just mash buttons and yolo
finite topaz
Use aoe at 2+ targets but only use aoe gauge spenders at 3+
wat why
pulsar escarp
it's also my main dw
pulsar escarp
bloodspiller >: D
glossy flare
edge and flood too actually
finite topaz
regarding Edge of Darkness and Flood of Darkness, the MP spenders, use the AoE one on** 2+ targets**
glossy flare
what, why?
finite topaz
what, why?
do math
250x2=500, against 350
and then the upgraded version at lvl 74, 300x2=600 against 500
pulsar escarp
I mean you can also sorta feel it if it makes sense
quietus doesn't feel satisfying
pulsar escarp
if it's.. 2 targets
finite topaz
Quietus is honestly wack
sour slate
they should have taught us MMO stats and rotation optimisation in school
finite topaz
on 3 targets it's only a 30 potency gain
sour slate
actually useful maths
glossy flare
almost as if school was useful
finite topaz
😔 Bloodspiller is 600 potency, Quietus is just 210 potency, so 3 targets and its only a marginal 30 potency gain...on 4 targets its a big gain tho
Quietus may even become a loss on 3 targets, if you crit on some and dont crit on others, whereas bloodspiller just crits on ONE target, critting for the whole damage
but that's like...super mega cursed optimization talk
shut panther
They need to rework when classes get abilities desperately
Drk should not be spending 42 levels spamming unleash
sour slate
yea
shut panther
DRG shouldn't be spending.. 40? Levels not aoeing
obsidian patio
We're slowly starting to veer into general discussion now.
but yeah DRK aoe is big sad
pulsar escarp
dude DRK was a great brainless tank for me but by god by 72 was I happy to get my combo
mental reminder: read all patch notes in EW
sour slate
is drk still relatively simple at 80?
pulsar escarp
Yeah, pretty much
clever bough
We got a hotfix are the patchnotes anywhere?
pulsar escarp
Standard tank stuff, how many GCDs can you get in your gauge, get fray out on cooldown
sour slate
ahh
pulsar escarp
use your edge/flood and your oGCDs
save 3k for TBN unless it’s off and only use it if it’ll break
clever bough
DRG shouldn't be spending.. 40? Levels not aoeing
If you think that DRG has it rough look at freakin NIN - 36 levels of having TWO buttons
strong saddle
When do u use your shadow thing? Basically off cooldown right? Or just on packs
pulsar escarp
Off CD but not towards the end of packs really
You don’t want to waste fray
21K potency in total
so at the beginning/midpull
sour slate
hallowed ground master race
pulsar escarp
WAR
finite topaz
2 tanks, the answer to that question is very subjective @fringe bone
pulsar escarp
oh
hmm
lol yeah
I just like war’s solo abilities and crazy crit/healing shit
Return to Monke
sour slate
war and nascent glint is so awesome
clever bough
PLD or WAR
"Deus Vult" or "NEWSBREAK: Man too angry to die."
pulsar escarp
But it doesn’t matter
clever bough
Your choice
pulsar escarp
Whatever’s fun
fringe bone
idk what that means
sour slate
wait glint is the life steal right
pulsar escarp
I’m a DRK main and I won’t change that even if we’ve got some shit compared to other tanks
It’s well balanced either way
sour slate
aoe selfheal makes u invincible
sour slate
war can tank the entire world
fringe bone
What are some quick pros and cons for PLD compared to WAR
oak ice
Nascent Glint is specifically the shield that's applied when you use Nascent Flash on a teammate
pulsar escarp
Maybe dark missionary which is team aoe magic shield
fringe bone
i heard PLD can solo any content
pulsar escarp
So can Warrior now ngl
strong saddle
Aint that most jobs tho
sour slate
Nascent Glint is specifically the shield that's applied when you use Nascent Fla...
ahh i see
strong saddle
Uhh pld I'm not sure. Still inexperienced
pulsar escarp
warrior’s self healing can pick you up from holmgang
clever bough
PLD has an on demand heal for others, WAR has 25s CD for a rather selfish heal (for 1 other person only)
oak ice
WAR can solo EX Lakshmi but PLD loses too much dps, unless they can do it in BiS
sour slate
pld is fun to play as an off tank providing support to the whole team
pulsar escarp
See which you like
fringe bone
Which one does more dmg
pulsar escarp
I think DRK is fun as off tank ngl
clever bough
IRRELEVANT
fringe bone
oh ok
finite topaz
PLD has an on demand heal for others, WAR has 25s CD for a rather selfish heal (...
PLD's heal is a uhh... Clemency...a GCD
oak ice
All tanks are within 2% damage
pulsar escarp
DRK is lowest dps of tanks rn but no one cares and it’s popular
fringe bone
Damn so then what makes u decide i wanna play pld or warr ?
pulsar escarp
exactly
finite topaz
That's not something you wanna use, like ever, unless strictly needed
clever bough
PLD's heal is a uhh... Clemency...a GCD
Never said thats optimal but if you are considering pros and cons then thats definetly on the list
whole wasp
Whichever looks cooler
fringe bone
i dont really have the time to lvl up both
oak ice
You want a big axe or a tiny little baby sword?
strong saddle
I'd stick with one and see how u like it
fringe bone
they both look sick tho haha
pulsar escarp
I mean XIV is like level all classes if you want but sure
strong saddle
tiny baby sword
pulsar escarp
Pick n choose
sour slate
PLD shines when healer dead 
pulsar escarp
You don’t even need to level to full though
clever bough
But I would never judge Jobs around their optimal DPS rotation when it comes down to "would I enjoy this"
strong saddle
Imagine using clemency when u dont trust your healer
pulsar escarp
PLD shines when healer dead <:kaiyokDoru:799961049637191700>
Issue is so does WAR if it’s just you
whole wasp
Yea. Get to 50 and decide
pulsar escarp
Maybe a bit further than that
strong saddle
Thats not the full expeirence
clever bough
Saying "You would never cast clemency" is just not true in casual content
strong saddle
Yeah thats what i meant
fringe bone
I just wanna lvl em to 36 to do my msq
finite topaz
lvl 15 is not enough, all the tanks work the same at lvl 15
heck, all the tanks work the same at lvl 50
strong saddle
One thing thats hard is leveling other jobs from lvl 1 when the msq is way pass your level
I just grind fates
whole wasp
Grind to 15 then do dungeons
sour slate
u can lvl them in potd
pulsar escarp
I see
fringe bone
I was told to do hunt logs
pulsar escarp
I did same for astrologian and drk
whole wasp
As tank,your queues are instant
fringe bone
then spam dungeons
clever bough
Its the same as saying "RDM would never dualcast Raise, thats what Swiftcast Raise on healers is for" when the freaking JOB OF A RDM IN 24 MAN RAIDS IS TO CONSTANTLY AND ONLY SPAM RAISE
sour slate
potd lets u join as lvl 1
fringe bone
whats potd
whole wasp
You can do potd naked too
strong saddle
Palace of the dead
sour slate
palace of the dead
finite topaz
!faq deepdungeon
zinc orbitBOT
whole wasp
So you never have to buy gear until 50
finite topaz
!faq potd
zinc orbitBOT
fringe bone
I cant read those men
strong saddle
Yeah it takes awhile
oak ice
Its the same as saying "RDM would never dualcast Raise, thats what Swiftcast Rai...
An RDM's job is to do dps, other people need to stop dying
fringe bone
i cant
finite topaz
why
clever bough
An RDM's job is to do dps, other people need to stop dying
My WHM needs to keep spamming Glare, aint no time to hardcast Raise after the 6th death
finite topaz
it has pretty pictures too
pulsar escarp
Its the same as saying "RDM would never dualcast Raise, thats what Swiftcast Rai...
Swiftcast is mostly used in place of jolt, isn’t it? If a aero or fire doesn’t proc
strong saddle
I forgot raise was a thing at low levels
finite topaz
Alrighty then, listen... the tools are there, yes? but do not fucking abuse Clemency, if your healer is alive, you let your healer heal
pulsar escarp
yeah I raise as rdm if a dps and healer/tank are down and no one will get the dps
swift imp
dunno if this is possible but is there a way to disable the music while mounted? or is that just with the chocobo
clever bough
Alrighty then, listen... the tools are there, yes? but do not **fucking abuse Cl...
definetly
pulsar escarp
Alrighty then, listen... the tools are there, yes? but do not **fucking abuse Cl...
Also if your healer is.. actually healing *flashbacks to holmnister *
strong saddle
Chocobo irrc
finite topaz
dunno if this is possible but is there a way to disable the music while mounted?...
Esc>Settings>Sound
Disable Mount Music
strong saddle
Yeah
swift imp
neat, thanks
strong saddle
Mods the music to play nyan cat
clever bough
btw. back to why I am here: HOTFIX PATCHNOTES WHERE?
finite topaz
btw. back to why I am here: HOTFIX PATCHNOTES WHERE?
on lodestone
whole wasp
strong saddle
So is summoner experience difficult?
finite topaz
btw. back to why I am here: HOTFIX PATCHNOTES WHERE?
sour slate
in my experience, it was fking brutal and i gave up so yea
clever bough
Why isnt this linked in the launcher T.T
sour slate
fk smn
strong saddle
That'd make sense
pulsar escarp
It’s alright
obsidian patio
I'd definitely say so if you leveled up as scholar instead of summoner
strong saddle
I'm only ok the trial so wanna know im advance
obsidian patio
there's a lot of moving parts and finesse to the job
strong saddle
in
pulsar escarp
I only stopped because the punishment for death is pretty ouch
Cuz your rotation is long
clever bough
So is summoner experience difficult?
Summoner lacks a lot of tools that make them what they are before Level 70 tho
sour slate
i started with smn and now im a whm/sam main
pulsar escarp
so you gotta go at it again... not satisfying so it’s like, don’t die
clever bough
The Level 1 - 60 experience of SMN isn't really representative
ESPECIALLY the lack of Dreadflare till Level 52
pulsar escarp
If you don’t die though SMN’s like, one of the 3rd highest DPS?
oak ice
My WHM needs to keep spamming Glare, aint no time to hardcast Raise after the 6t...
I don't know why you're trying to make it seem like a "gotcha"-moment, but if someone dies 6 times, I'm gonna stop ressing them
clever bough
I don't know why you're trying to make it seem like a "gotcha"-moment, but if so...
Oh no its the 6th random person, not always the same one
pulsar escarp
Hold on someone @ my rdm question, swift cast instead of jolt if no proc? Or just also to start off a pull where you can’t hardcast?
clever bough
Like yesterday I think all 5 DPS racked up a total of at least 3 deaths per person
shrewd owl
Swiftcast doesnt proc dualcast iirc
oak ice
You can't get a doublecast from a swiftcast
pulsar escarp
It doesn’t
clever bough
With the Tank dying about 6 times due to missing that a freaking METEOR crashes down from above
pulsar escarp
But I don’t need it to
obsidian patio
probably better to jolt/proc -> longcast for pulls where you don't have the time for hardcasting both thunder/aero
pulsar escarp
Really? Yikes alright then
But midfight when accel falls off?
I normally swift what I need and give it another chance to proc
Rather than jolt
obsidian patio
Swiftcast isn't necessarily a "always use" dps tool, since it can offset your dualcast flow for fights
finite topaz
Swiftcast is a DPS gain tho, use it instead of trying to fish for Jolt whenever a weave window happens
pulsar escarp
yeah? I mean,
Yeah
What I got was basically avoid casting jolt unless you have to
obsidian patio
yes, but don't forget swiftcast can help for extended movement when needed
finite topaz
Jolt is basically your least powerful offensive GCD
obsidian patio
to avoid using too many reprisals
clever bough
Isn't it just casting Jolt -> Instant Longcast -> OGCD Swiftcast -> Instant Longcast -> Jolt instead of Jolt -> Instant Longcast -> Jolt -> Instant Longcast
pulsar escarp
But only situationally
strong saddle
Just something minor. Are their any tabards in the game
pulsar escarp
Otherwise I’m pretending to be a BLM and casting
clever bough
Just something minor. Are their any tabards in the game
No
clever bough
You mean the WoW Reputation Reward Tabards right?
strong saddle
No I mean regular tabards
clever bough
But you mean the coat above your armor
strong saddle
Ah okay
clever bough
There is no such thing, just Glamour to change the way your armor looks
pulsar escarp
Isn't it just casting Jolt -> Instant Longcast -> OGCD Swiftcast -> Instant Long...
? I don't understand this
strong saddle
Okay
pulsar escarp
are you missing out the procs?
clever bough
What proc?
pulsar escarp
or is it for extended movement
molten shuttle
Hey folks, ive got my main class mostly geared out in 520 / 510, but i am a bit stuck on how to get resistense weapons ,or the like... anyone able to link me to a handy dandy page that makes my life easier to the next upgrade path besides Savage eden for which there is no duty queue long enough 😢
clever bough
Its for "that slight DPS gain" someone talked about
what the hell
clever bough
What is there to not understand
pulsar escarp
too many jolts
clever bough
RMD has 2 spells with insanely long cast time, you use your dualcast "make next spell instant" on them and you can also waste a swiftcast to make them instant
pulsar escarp
yeah?
quick scroll
should i spam lvl 50 60 70 duty finder to lvl up to 71
whole wasp
should i spam lvl 50 60 70 duty finder to lvl up to 71
no
quick scroll
or is there better way
whole wasp
50 60 70 gives the least exp
quick scroll
if i didnt unlock the lvl 80 main quests
obsidian patio
Hey folks, ive got my main class mostly geared out in 520 / 510, but i am a bit ...
short write-up of what you do for each step
pulsar escarp
so you're also.. swift casting verfire? I give up lmao
quick scroll
coz i did main quest to 71 on my other class
whole wasp
just do lvl 71+ dungeon
quick scroll
do they give xp coz they show tomes as rewards
finite topaz
Hey folks, ive got my main class mostly geared out in 520 / 510, but i am a bit ...
Also uhhh... Savage Eden, do not Duty Queue into it
clever bough
so you're also.. swift casting verfire? I give up lmao
Uh no ... if you Jolt -> Verthunter (Verfire Proc) you just Swiftcast Veraero?
finite topaz
No
@pulsar escarp look, there are 2 spells with longer cast time, right? Spell A and Spell B
clever bough
No i mean using your SWIFTCAST (the Mage Role Spell that makes ANY effect instant)
pulsar escarp
yeah
whole wasp
do they give xp coz they show tomes as rewards
lvl 50/60/70 dungeons give the worst exp because these dungeons are made at level cap. if you wanna go to lvl 71 as a <71 job, just do dungeons that are not 50/60/70. like lvl 69 dungeon
finite topaz
You do Jolt>Dualcast Spell A, then Swiftcast Spell B
pulsar escarp
yeah
pulsar escarp
can't you do that without swift?
clever bough
Jolt -> Verthunder -> Swiftcast -> Veraero -> Verfire -> Verthunder -> Verstone -> Veraero
finite topaz
Im gonna repeat it
whole wasp
swiftcast doesnt trigger the GCD basically
clever bough
IFF everything proccs
finite topaz
You have 2 skills, with longer cast times, Spell A and B
obsidian patio
Swiftcast in this case is being used to replace/delay a jolt with VerThunder/VerAero
pulsar escarp
is this minus acceleration then
clever bough
This is WHENEVER
finite topaz
You use Jolt>Dualcast proc Spell A, then use Swiftcast>Spell B
pulsar escarp
I see now
finite topaz
This doubles the chance of getting a proc
clever bough
Its a "lulz I just mentioned my Swiftcast exists, lets use it" situation
pulsar escarp
alright, makes more sense, I was assuming there was acceleration up
molten shuttle
Also uhhh... Savage Eden, do not Duty Queue into it
how else? i dont have hte last 4 eden savage unlocked so i need to the first 8 somehow and party finder no luck
clever bough
Even then acceleration just guarantees the proc
finite topaz
alright, makes more sense, I was assuming there was acceleration up
Even if acceleration is up, you still do it
clever bough
Doesn't change what I just said
finite topaz
how else? i dont have hte last 4 eden savage unlocked so i need to the first 8 s...
Uhh...you do the normal
whole wasp
how else? i dont have hte last 4 eden savage unlocked so i need to the first 8 s...
you only need to do eden normal to unlock savage
finite topaz
you dont need to do previous savage to next savage
whole wasp
^ yup
finite topaz
OH heck, Smug was faster
whole wasp
obsidian patio
savage tiers are completely separate from each other, unlike normal mode.
molten shuttle
you only need to do eden normal to unlock savage
i did all normal, but i didn't get the last 4 savage O.o
am i blind, or am i blind and special?
obsidian patio
the last 4 are in the raid finder
clever bough
They are under "High End Duty" in the duty finder
glossy flare
current raid tier is under "High End Duties"
molten shuttle
thanks ❤️
finite topaz
Ok @pulsar escarp imma have to draw you something
pulsar escarp
alright lol
sour slate
time for ms paint master piece?
finite topaz
@pulsar escarp you do Step 1, then step 2 under the weave window and finally, you do step 3, IF you got a proc
Under acceleration
you should have gotten both proccs
in which case, you just press any of em
pulsar escarp
sure
finite topaz
like for example Verstone>Veraero and then Verfire>Verthunder
pulsar escarp
would this be used in opener as well possibly or nah
finite topaz
I think it is on the opener
pulsar escarp
I use weskalber one, I guess it carries from end
tired echo
Hey guys are the Hairstyles in the Nier raid also weekly rewards or can I just keep running it until I get them?
obsidian patio
unlimited
finite topaz
Hey guys are the Hairstyles in the Nier raid also weekly rewards or can I just k...
you can keep running
obsidian patio
same for the TT cards, furniture piece, and minions
tired echo
Nice, thank you guys!
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sour slate
theres a nier furniture??
glossy flare
would this be used in opener as well possibly or nah
afaik RDM openers do use swiftcast, but you do not proc it during the opener
rather you do it immediately after it on the first thunder/aero
soft flicker
are level 80 collectibles only up sometimes?
just went for rarified gyr aabanian alumen and theres only one node
obsidian patio
theres a nier furniture??
It's a furniture of a tiny 2B/9S holding hands.
obsidian patio
are level 80 collectibles only up sometimes?
All Rarefied gathering items, besides a few select ones, have specific times they're up for.
obsidian patio
you can to an extent, there's enough unspoiled nodes to do a cycle
and there's a spammable node, but it gives much less GP and can take away from the more valuable nodes
soft flicker
i jus wanna gear up my retainers 😭
clever bough
I forgot what buttons my swiftcast is even bound to
sour slate
i tend to afk camp those timed nodes and do stuff irl
zinc orbitBOT
glossy flare
@pulsar escarp That's one of the openers over on Akh Morning, just as an example. The other openers also use swift as either the last weave or right before Scorch (which is instant anyway so it doesn't proc)
sour slate
come back every hr and gather and then afk again
soft flicker
i just don't really have any money
pulsar escarp
I see wait
soft flicker
is there a cheap way to get them to those stats?
pulsar escarp
it looks like it's to the same effect as the second aero in weskalber's opening
soft flicker
cause aesthetes is so expensive
glossy flare
pretty much, yeah
pulsar escarp
well damn
obsidian patio
yellow/white scrip gear
pulsar escarp
could've got that a lot faster
soft flicker
oh yellow would work okay?
obsidian patio
something to note is that since they only need gathering as a stat you can skip a lot of pieces for them
like the accessories
soft flicker
gotcha gotcha
clever bough
You would weave the acceleration + Swiftcast into your OGCD after the first Verthunder instead of fiddling around forgetting where the spell is even bound to like I did
obsidian patio
and the left-side pieces that have mainly perception
sour slate
maybe cheap gear and meld a bunch of gathering materia on them :P
finite topaz
!faq weave
zinc orbitBOT
finite topaz
ah heck
pulsar escarp
lol yeah
glossy flare
You would weave the acceleration + Swiftcast into your OGCD after the first Vert...
For the opener you use acceleration pre pull though
finite topaz
!faq weaving
zinc orbitBOT
pulsar escarp
oh
glossy flare
For the hardcast thunder/aero
clever bough
For the opener you use acceleration pre pull though
My RDM is 53
pulsar escarp
yeah I try to do that one
glossy flare
My RDM is 53
Still applies
pulsar escarp
I'm 80 rdm
glossy flare
Though to be fair you likely won't have a countdown in dungeons
pulsar escarp
right
soft flicker
@obsidian patio the yellow scrip gera doesn't get them to those stats i don't think o.o from what i can see
glossy flare
So the prepull accelleration + thunder is eh
sour slate
would gathering materia get them the rest of the way?
soft flicker
umm i dont think the yellow scrip gear can get gathering materia
or any materia i mean
pulsar escarp
I wish we had a set rotation for no countdown
do we?
opener*
I guess we can use
the thing
with swift
glossy flare
Not one as planned out as this one
sour slate
really? crafters can buy materia with yellow scrips
clever bough
Still applies
Oh yeah I should actually read the spell, I thought it was (like with ANY OTHER JOB) that the effect of acceleration gets upgraded over the course of several levels
soft flicker
yeah the scrip gear doesnt have materia slots
glossy flare
Oh yeah I should actually read the spell, I thought it was (like with ANY OTHER ...
It's not like other jobs don't have actions that do not get upgrades later on
But yeah, accel stays the same
Point is without a countdown you can't really hardcast one of the long spells prepull
You could still use accel prepull though I guess
pulsar escarp
so could you use the stuff you guys put in chat w swiftcast? seeing as there's no hardcast involved
adapt it for enbolden/double mana
clever bough
You NEVER hardcast Veraero or Verthunder
glossy flare
You do prepull
pulsar escarp
yeah
glossy flare
Otherwise you're correct
sour slate
man ive seen some rdm in crystal tower hardcasting those long ass spells
i wanna say but ehhh i dont wanna be 'toxic'
pulsar escarp
they figure it out eventually
clever bough
And obviously you have to use Swiftcast in the OGCD after Verthunder or else you instant cast Jolt (or Verfire or Verstone), which would be a waste
pulsar escarp
glossy flare
Actually the proper RDM 80 opener doesn't even include Jolt 😄
agile laurel
jolt is the 'i have no better option' option
glossy flare
yea
pulsar escarp
I don't quite understand the swiftcast at the end of his 80 opener though
clever bough
There must be moments in any fight where you need to cast Jolt tho
pulsar escarp
is that to kick into what you guys explained?
oh you will have to
but you want to avoid it
glossy flare
Obviously you will have to cast Jolt at times, yeah
strong saddle
When do you get to Ishgard? What lvl would u say
pulsar escarp
by controlling rng as much as you can lol
glossy flare
I'm just saying it's a good mindset to have. To avoid Jolt as much as possible
clever bough
When do you get to Ishgard? What lvl would u say
50, there is no going around the MSQ
strong saddle
Okay lvl 50 gotcha
clever bough
You can't even go to Ishgard if you haven't done all the story of post ARR
pulsar escarp
the issue is I swiftcast to replace jolt, and go right into a veraero/thunder if a verfire/stone didn't procc
and I'm not sure if it's right
clever bough
Okay lvl 50 gotcha
In FFXIV ALL progress is locked behind the Main Story Quests
glossy flare
the issue is I swiftcast to replace jolt, and go right into a veraero/thunder if...
That's why you use accel prepull on the hardcast normally. Though I guess you could use accel + swiftcast without a countdown
clever bough
Okay lvl 50 gotcha
You can not "level up to level X0" and then just do the main story of the next expansion
glossy flare
The openers usually just push swift back to the end so the first thunder/aero after the opener is instant
pulsar escarp
when accel's worn off
clever bough
Like in WoW you'd level up to Level 60 and just drop everything and enter the Dark Portal
pulsar escarp
so, by weskalber's opener, is he putting the swift at the end to mean 'apply as necessary'?
because sometimes I still have proccs
after opener
glossy flare
I have no idea what his opener looks like 
clever bough
in FFXIV you need to complete the whole 40 hours of Level 50 Patch Stories before you can enter Ishgard
pulsar escarp
uhh, I have it memorised hold on
glossy flare
If you have both procs after your opener you shouldn't use swift
If you have just one then do it
Just proc the other one
shut panther
isn't the proper use of Swift as RDM the first time you'd have to cast jolt
glossy flare
Yeah
pulsar escarp
thank god
shut panther
In hopes that, as alluded to here.. you don't have to
glossy flare
We were just talking about weird openers without prepull hardcast thunder/aero
shut panther
Ah
clever bough
isn't the proper use of Swift as RDM the first time you'd have to cast jolt
Precast 6s spell -> Instacast 6s spell -> Swiftcast -> Instacast 6s spell -> Do the rotation dance
obsidian patio
in that scenario you're wasting a proc due to pre-pull acceleration
pulsar escarp
alright I don't have it memorised because it's muscle memory damn
shut panther
If I don't get my prepull cast I just start with jolt and suffer
And obviously if you're reopening from down time you precast vercure and open with an instant
pulsar escarp
here's weskalber's rdm opening
I usually follow it (for 80, btw) if I can
if there's no countdown I just accept it's fucked really
shut panther
if there's no countdown I just accept it's fucked really
Basically.
pulsar escarp
I just don't get swiftcast, so is that to dual proc again?
shut panther
It's a damage increase
honest anvil
I wouldnt stress over it. In content where it’s crucial to do ur opener like savge and extremes, there’ll always be a countdown ¯_(ツ)_/
pulsar escarp
otherwise it serves me fine, rotation from then is standard and outside of the opener I use swift to not jolt in rotation
well yeah, I just like doing more damage
naturally
clever bough
Swiftcast at the end should probably just announce "and then you begin at the front with casting Verthunder"
honest anvil
Out of those, raid buffs and acceleration are most likely to be waaay misaligned so eh
pulsar escarp
oh so just run again
until finally oyu run out of procs
and finally have to use a jolt
clever bough
I mean that is the OPENER where you have 100% control over everything that happens
shut panther
I mean at that point you're just playing the mana dance until 80/80 again
clever bough
past that moment you are completly on the whim of your proc luck
pulsar escarp
I mean wait hold on though, you already presumanly have a verfire proc
so surely start from veraero with the swift
and then it's just the juggling again
clever bough
Yes, the swiftcast just denotes "do the next 6s cast here"
And then you Jolt away and cry in not having verstone OR verfire
pulsar escarp
right so the message is 'have both here'
essentially
and then try and do your opener again
then fail obviously because you don't have accel
but it should still be good
clever bough
exactly
shut panther
When to fish for a proc:
If you are below 80|80 Mana and ran out of both Verstone and Verfire procs, fish for a proc.
If you are below 60|60 Mana and only have a single Verstone proc OR a Verfire proc, fish for the other proc.
If you are between 60|60 and 80|80 Mana and only have a Verstone proc OR a Verfire proc, do NOT fish for the other proc with swiftcast or acceleration.
obsidian patio
in general
shut panther
Yeah, Swift out a 5s cast
pulsar escarp
it refuses to function when it sees double procs
outside of my opener
but if I remember 'if there is a dual proc, try and do your opener' it should see me through?
obsidian patio
RDM doesn't really do their opener again, due to how it happens
pulsar escarp
so dual proc..
shut panther
If you've got dual procs, you just alternate Fire > thunder/stone>aero until one drops
pulsar escarp
ah so that's the best solution
and if none, fish, provided you're within the limiters that you stated?
shut panther
If you don't have either proc you Swift out your lower mana long cast and then jolt
(assuming your swiftcast also rendered nothing)
pulsar escarp
and if it did render nothing then? still jolt to gun for dual or just play it
shut panther
If you don't have a proc and swift is down you jolt into the lower mana long cast with dualcast
clever bough
You know what really grinds my gears right now: RDM Vercure scales with INT but SMN Physic still just heals 500 HP at level 80
If Healer's damage now scales with MND I want DPS heals to scale with INT 😛
pulsar escarp
so as rdm are you always gunning for dual proccs?
shut panther
I think it's a class identity thing, but yeah if physic is going to be as useless as it is it might as well not exist
pulsar escarp
I mean I used psychic at low level in msq
for those encounters
to stop myself from dying
but otherwise? useless
shut panther
so as rdm are you always gunning for dual proccs?
No, you use your procs as you get them, basically
pulsar escarp
ahh so it's just opener and a bit after that you want duals
clever bough
SMN Physic stops being useful at level ~40
pulsar escarp
the rest is just.. the hand that fate gives you
and acceleration saying here, guarantees
gritty oracle
If Healer's damage now scales with MND I want DPS heals to scale with INT 😛
SMN already has amazing mobility, rez, party utility and damage almost comparable to BLM. It really doesn't need any more buffs and versatility.
clever bough
SMN already has amazing mobility, rez, party utility and damage almost comparabl...
As if physic healing you for 10k instead of 500 would be a "buff", it would just allow me to actually use the spell at Level 68 when fighting a Level 70 monster for nuts
shut panther
You go for dual in the opener because acceleration guarantees it and your goal is to basically get your melee combo into raid buffs
gritty oracle
As if physic healing you for 10k instead of 500 would be a "buff", it would just...
Use titan-egi and chocobro. Also, hunt marks hurt. Any class would have difficulty fighting it solo, below level.
clever bough
Not "max level 70 hunt marks" but Level 70 nut trash mobs running around in norvrand
pulsar escarp
and so the rest is fine?
as long as the mana doubler sort of lines up and elmbolden
because that's roughly hwere everyone else fired off buffs
gritty oracle
Tbh I was lv70 and full scaevan gear and still had to run from lv70 trash in norvrandt when I started the expansion. Coincidentally, also on summoner.
clever bough
Yeah I have similar problems with BLM
pulsar escarp
any dps really
clever bough
Where I do a FATE with my 71 PLD by pulling everything in a 100 mile radius and AoE it down my BLM has to tippytoe around single enemies
burnt crown
anyone know, have calculated total xp we gain from Shadowbringer quests?
clever bough
From my experience doing ShB Day 1: "Not enough"
burnt crown
lol
clever bough
But the wiki has the EXP Info on all the quests so you can tally them up if you like
burnt crown
But the wiki has the EXP Info on all the quests so you can tally them up if you ...
I've calculated it out (approx tho), the whole series give us ~64.2m xp. The amount of xp we need from lv70-80 is ~225.85m... yea, not close to lv80 at all ._.
pulsar escarp
I mean, are you taking the dungeons into account?
burnt crown
nope
pulsar escarp
ah.
burnt crown
purely msq
clever bough
Also a nitpick: THE LIGHT OF INSPIRATION IS A 79 QUEST BUT IS ONLY COMPLETABLE AT 80! WHY DOES IT GIVE EXP?!
zinc orbitBOT
rich idol
hello, what is the fastest way to level up someone's alt? I have level 80 character and he is level 20
obsidian patio
!faq altlvlguide
zinc orbitBOT
obsidian patio
carry them through daily roulettes and dungeon queues, basically.
formal meteor
For the title "lone hero", if I die before getting to floor 30, do I have to delete the save and start over?
obsidian patio
yes
formal meteor
😦
rich idol
I heard there was a mob or something that you could spam kill to gain exp quickly is that like removed?
obsidian patio
that's only for blue mage
sour slate
does the damage coming through from Cover just bypasses hallowed ground or something?
when ever i pop hallowed ground and cover someone, i still take damage
slate arrow
yes
slate arrow
it's reason number 638262 why cover is useless
sour slate
sighhhhhh
slate arrow
/s but the point still stands
pulsar escarp
I guess cover feels like TBN but rather than any benefit you’re just being a martyr
do you take vulns as well
strong saddle
How can u tell if your carrying someone
pulsar escarp
Well if your shoulders feel heavy
pulsar escarp
I’m joking, the answer can only be for sure through an ACT maybe if they’re DPS but you shouldn’t be using it for that ngl
Aggro list is inaccurate for who’s doing the most damage, just a rough gauge
forgoing tanks and healers
pulsar escarp
Yeah
Usually
There’s factors like Whos Died to take into account as well
Sometimes you gotta remember melee might not be doing great because the fight hates melee
or if vice versa the fight hates casters lol
so you can never really be sure if you’re carrying someone unless you’re absolutely positive they’re not doing shit
slate arrow
Parsing doesn't really matter until you're hitting enrage anyways
A clear is a clear
pulsar escarp
Yeah
If you nitpick people outside of hardcore stuff I mean, you’re a problem lol
unless they’re... really really shit and people die because of them being annoying on purpose
slate arrow
anyways that's enough discussion for one morning
pulsar escarp
strong saddle
Like lets say I'm idk ninja. If I'm doing my rotation is that a good indicator
slate arrow
good indicator of what
strong saddle
Well being carried
slate arrow
if you're trying and over the minimum item level you're doing your best
But there's also a huge difference in DPS from 510 to 530
so you could be doing everything perfectly and still be bottom of the charts
Not much you can do besides upgrade gear
sour slate
i mean if ur constantly hitting enrage and someone is clearly doing really bad dps wise, thats a reason to have a chat with them right?
pulsar escarp
I’m just sub 510
Ohhhh
Then yeah definitely
If enrage is killing you
But like using ACT for random stuff is like ???
sour slate
i had to do that before and it was awkward
pulsar escarp
If you’re wiping to enrage
slate arrow
Enrage means you're at the end of the fight and the boss used their 9999999 damage attack
slate arrow
This is why people use discord rather than in game chat
slate arrow
Light Refulgence intensifies
pulsar escarp
I only do EX in PF
not sure if that’s where people use ACTs
still feels pretty casual
slate arrow
I use it for a callout overlay because my brain is dumb and square
pulsar escarp
Disheartening to hear that ilvl at 80 matters quite a bit though I never thought about it
slate arrow
Item level always matters
pulsar escarp
my 80 classes are both over 500 but that’s it
Maybe I finally can blame smth for my shitty place on aggro list
actually it’s cuz I die quite a lot lmao
zinc orbitBOT
vocal spoke
Are solo Q's for The feast always empty, I tried getting in Q for around a year without ever getting something beyond "more than 30min"
sour slate
pvp in a nutshell
vocal spoke
Yo I want that sweet top 100 armor
leaden ginkgo
is curiel root a way to cheese chocobo exp in stable? or is it just a buff that your chocobo earns more exp when fighting and killing monsters?
I know you can only train the chocobo once per hour
just curious how the Exp Up Works
forest lark
Is it mebor bard has really low dmg
Or*
I only played dancer and ninja as otger dps and they both peeform better than bard imo
I feel like I contribute to nothing as a bard early lvl 40s
obsidian patio
Bard is very proc-dependent in doing good damage, so there's dry spells sometimes
also you're before level 64 so your proc chance is pretty low for the song buffs
before then it's 20% per DoT tick, and once you hit 64 it becomes 40%
Which means 80% chance of a proc every 3 seconds for single-target situations.
but yeah, Bard isn't great damage compared to the rest of the jobs, usually a bit above or close to dancer
forest lark
Hmm I'm wondeeong should I drop it for now, any other good dps jobs there. I currently have ninja, red mage and dancer
What about dragoon?
obsidian patio
All the DPS are good, Bard/Dancer/Machinist just perform a bit lower since they can almost always keep 100% uptime on the enemy while doing mechanics
Dragoon is pretty nice for melee dps with battle litany and dragon sight as their party utility
and hit pretty hard with their combos
neat stratus
Is the Roulettes (thats being done for exp) only doable ones per day for a character? Not ones per job?
neat stratus
is all of the roulettes worth it for leveling or just the leveling/msq roulette?
obsidian patio
Leveling, Main Scenario, and Alliance Raid are the main ones for experience
heavy wadi
trials, alliance, normal raid and msq roulette are what I usually do
the firs three are pretty quick if you're strapped for time
obsidian patio
Trials and Normal raid don't give much, so their main value is time spent doing them
heavy wadi
yeah, i'd just do leveling instead
obsidian patio
(Though IMO Normal Raid is much better done for the tomestones at 80)
hot eagle
frontline roulette is nice for exp also
heavy wadi
also pretty fun tbh
neat stratus
ty
shut panther
Frontlines is always 30m+ queue for me
wintry chasm
Frontlines is always 30m+ queue for me
If you do it right when resets happen queues are fast
vital ruin
Can you resize your neck in the character customization
After wearing the casual set I feel like my characters neck looks somewhat like a giraffes
empty parrot
You cannot
silent steppe
Hey everyone I was just curious have any of you experience error messages/game crash when trying to play after maintenance
fringe bone
is doing fates a good way of leveling until 15
vernal urchin
That and hunting logs
open coral
FATEs are okay, but not exclusively.
It's generally recommended to do a combination of hunt logs, FATEs and levequests.
jolly sorrel
Fresh 80's crafter, where do I start gearing up? White scrips?
slate arrow
depends on how much you want to spend
jolly sorrel
Not going to get serious enough to earn anything back, don't mind grinding stuff for ages so if I can make it myself it's fine
slate arrow
then white scrips is fine enough. You'll need almost all HQ materials in order to craft an HQ final product for the most part though
zinc orbitBOT
jolly sorrel
Alright, so even if I want to get better than white scrip gear, getting that is the first step regardless
Unless I just go to the MB
slate arrow
yep
jolly sorrel
🙇 Thanks
slate arrow
the biggest grind will be for materia
jolly sorrel
I'll come and ask questions about those after I finish the grind for white scrips
Its a non-insignificant amount
crystal bluff
Do your deliveries for a good chunk
jolly sorrel
Quick maths tell me that I need 9084 white scrips for the whole deal
minor talon
Hey can anyone help me with my installer I get and error when trying to install it
leaden ginkgo
Btw, I switch to a lvl 60 jobs and I am able to start a lvl 70 msq?
strange coral
No
slate arrow
you must meet the minimum level in order to begin or turn in MSQ objectives
leaden ginkgo
but I just did it.
slate arrow
the game wont let you turn in the MSQ objective then
some of the quests are weird like that
devout lichen
where do you even get different armor I guess for your chocobo cuz I see people with different ones
but I havent found any
rich bay
Hey can anyone help me with my installer I get and error when trying to install ...
@tender estuary, can you answer this question?
tepid siren
I’m trying to unlock bozjan southern front to level my 70 war , but the quest line has my doing this ridorana lighthouse and it’s impossible to que up for . I’m even playing as tank
slate arrow
where do you even get different armor I guess for your chocobo cuz I see people ...
you can buy the 'default' ones from your Grand Companies, or through crafting or achivements.
tall jetty
where do you even get different armor I guess for your chocobo cuz I see people ...
some are on the mog station
slate arrow
For example, the MCH barding drops from moogle tickets in the firmamment
manic flare
i believe you can also craft a quite a few bardings too
tepid siren
Can anyone help me que up for it
devout lichen
I assume you can't buy them
manic flare
Can anyone help me que up for it
queue for alliance raids as dps
tank queues are very slow for alliaance raids
manic flare
I assume you can't buy them
you can buy some bardings off marketboard
manic flare
where do you even get different armor I guess for your chocobo cuz I see people ...
jonathas in gridania can also trade you some bardings for achievement points
manic flare
I have no 70 dps
what about healer?
devout lichen
imma check that then
daring spoke
Hi, I just installed the game, and I don't really know what server I should play on.
When I looked on google, it seemed like the Aether servers lean more towards raiding, and Crystal servers more towards roleplay, but also there would be a lot of people disputing those reputations.
I was just going to pick Jenova based on the name, but when I looked that server up, I read something about it having a small playerbase.
Can someone help me pick a server with a good raiding population?
pulsar escarp
it doesn't matter at all, just ping
slate arrow
!faq worldpick
zinc orbitBOT
pulsar escarp
pick which is closest to you - only thing that might matter a bit is language.
(see: europe, shiva/moogle german and french more)
daring spoke
!faq worldpick
oh my god this is perfect
rich bay
Hey can anyone help me with my installer I get and error when trying to install ...
Sometimes a firewall is blocking the game, the launcher downloads the game after installing, so a firewall can prevent the check.
Running the launcher itself as admin also helps sometimes.
minor talon
@rich bay I have that off and put it in admin mode it still gives me that error
And I made sure all background apps aren’t running
rich bay
What error codes do you get?
tidal yarrow
i know that sometimes you can transfer from x server to y for free, when x is very populated and y isn't.
how or where can I check this?
rich bay
@minor talon
It is likely a corrupted patch data folder.
Try this:
1: Restart your PC first
2: Go to "%userprofile%\Documents\My Games\FINAL FANTASY XIV - A Realm Reborn\downloads\ffxivpatch" (%userprofile = C:\users\[account name])
3: Delete all folder inside the ffxivpatch folder (they should look like 4e9a232b)
4: Restart computer again
5: Try to patch the game again, most likely it will work.
!faq worlstatus
zinc orbitBOT
normal breach
do people normally party up to do shared fates in shadowbringers or do people not really do them anymore? trying to knock them out for gemstones but im always the only one around
slate arrow
!faq worldstatus
zinc orbitBOT
tidal yarrow
thank you ill check it out
jolly sorrel
do people normally party up to do shared fates in shadowbringers or do people no...
I think the way to go is just do it solo, throw up a PF and hope someone will join.
tidal yarrow
!faq worldstatus
what will be there written if the transfer is free?
cause i don't see anything about it
like, louisox was free transfer a couple weeks ago id like to check if it still is
(chaos)
slate arrow
only can transfer to New worlds or from Congested to Preferred for free
tidal yarrow
i see ty
minor talon
@rich bay I don’t have downloads it just says boot and game folder
strange coral
Look in Documents\My Games, not the install folder
rich bay
tepid siren
Que’ing as a healer doesn’t help. Can anyone help me party up for the ridorana lighthouse
minor talon
@rich bay still have same error
rich bay
<@282662248365817867> still have same error
The only thing i can think of is to reinstall the whole game then and delete the "%userprofile%\Documents\My Games\FINAL FANTASY XIV - A Realm Reborn\downloads\ffxivpatch" folder after removing the game before reinstalling it.
minor talon
Ok i will try that
high otter
I can buy lvl 50 armor and weapons in Mor Dhona, but what about better gear? Where can I obtain it
strange coral
For what level?
high otter
Currently I'm lvl 55 and I'm on free trial. I wonder if I need to spend tomestones for 50 gear or I should stock it for 55 or 60, if there is any
open coral
Poetics are dead easy to come by, there's no reason to "save" them if you're wearing sub-50 gear over level 50.
strange coral
At 55-59 you should be getting better gear from dungeons. At 60 you can buy Shire gear for the best level 60 gear.
open coral
There is level 60 and level 70 gear that can also be purchased with poetics upon reaching Idyllshire (level 60) and upon completing the 5.0 Stormblood content (level 70).
high otter
No, I wear lvl 50 from job chain. I can buy another, better set of 50 armor, or I guess I can buy 55 or 60 items
open coral
Just buy the Ironworks gear if you're wearing job gear.
crystal bluff
Never buy gear levelling a combat class
open coral
The job gear is basically worthless.
crystal bluff
Use tomestone and dungeon gear
open coral
You want tomestone gear from 50-55/60-65/70-75, and dungeon or MSQ gear for 55-60/65-70/75-80
strange coral
The Ironworks gear from Mor Dhona will be much better than what you're wearing, but will also be replaced quickly by dungeon gear at 55+.
minor talon
@rich bay does like maintenance effect the downloader at all
high otter
But to enter dungeons to get 55 gear I must first raise my item level by buying ironworks?
open coral
So again, there is no reason not to purchase the Ironworks level 50 gear unless you're nearly to level 58 MSQ and level 60+ character level.
If you've been doing dungeons and accepting gear rewards from MSQ, you should have sufficient ilevel to enter the level 55 dungeon when you get there in the MSQ.
What level MSQ are you at?
high otter
Lvl 50, I just ||moved HQ to the Mor Dhona||. I'm lvl 55
open coral
You want to gear to your MSQ level, so Ironworks gear is what you want right now.
You won't get better gear until you reach level 55 MSQ or higher.
high otter
Should I focus on buying ironworks right now or I can proceed with MSQ?
faint flare
Ironworks is a massive upgrade
open coral
Yes, buy Ironworks. You can proceed with your MSQ too.
faint flare
Definitely get a weapon
open coral
It's not an either/or proposition.
faint flare
You'll double your damage
open coral
You can do both.
high otter
I already bought ironworks weapon
crystal bluff
Then get the armor
faint flare
Well whatever is lower ilvl
open coral
Use poetics to upgrade your gear as you do your MSQ. You'll get more before you even hit Heavensward.
faint flare
Usually accessories
high otter
How can I upgrade it? And should I upgrade ironworks?
silent steppe
@rich bay hey dreamy I do t suppose you know how I can resolve this do you?
faint flare
Ironworks is already upgraded
open coral
Buy Ironworks. That's the upgrade.
Ironworks gear is 130 ilevel, which is higher ilevel than anything else you can get until literally the level 55 dungeon.
high otter
Okay, so I buy ironworks, then I'll do MSQ until I can farm 55 dungeons for 55 gear, right?
open coral
You... don't need to farm dungeons for gear.
faint flare
You'll use dungeon and story gear again after 55
open coral
You can literally go from 50-60 in Ironworks gear if you wanted to.
faint flare
Then rinse repeat at 60
open coral
There's no point in farming full dungeon sets.
faint flare
glamour
boreal storm
ehh
high otter
Ok, so what should I do at 60 again?
open coral
I mean, yes. But for adventuring purposes there's no point in farming full dungeon sets.
high otter
I guess shire is a location I need yet to unlock
open coral
At 60, if you've reached the town Idyllshire, which is locked behind the level 58 MSQ, you can purchase i270 gear.
With poetics.
Yes, it's locked behind the MSQ
high otter
How would you recommend to farm tomestones for ironworks?
open coral
Do your daily roulettes.
MSQ roulette gives 500 minimum
Alliance raid is 120(?) minimum
faint flare
Unlock other lv50 content, you get bonus poetics for the first clear
Plus you'll need to do crystal tower and hard mode primals anyway
open coral
50/60/70 roulette is worth another 130-ish.
faint flare
So might as well get startrd
high otter
MSQ roulette gives 500 minimum
it gives 300 rn
open coral
It gives 300 bonus + 200 base
boreal storm
300 +200
open coral
For a total of 500.
You will always get 200 poetics for doing Castrum or Praetorium.
You will get an additional 300 as your daily roulette bonus for the first run per day.
high otter
I guess I can just do MSQ while being in queue for tomestones
warm snow
open coral
Yes. You should do MSQ while you queue for roulettes.
That is a very efficient way to go about it.
high otter
Roulette is once per day though, right? So I do it once and then queue for Castrum or Praetorium
boreal storm
Once you reach idyllshire, you'll also get access to Wonderous Tails which is another free 500 poetics a week
open coral
Farming MSQ instances is not efficient.
normal breach
im soloing fates is it better to do it as a dps class or a tank class?
faint flare
200 poetics for an hour? Nah fam
open coral
Do the roulette once per day.
Likewise do your Alliance raid roulette and your 50/60/70 dungeon roulette once per day.
After you unlock Alexander (level 60 post-HW content) you'll unlock another roulette - Normal raid - which also rewards poetics.
high otter
I only have 3: leveling, trials and main scenario roulettes
open coral
Go unlock the Crystal Tower alliance raid, you'll be required to do that anyways.
faint flare
Which gives alliance raid
open coral
And pick up the level 50 dungeon unlock 
s that are scattered around.
There should be a few in Mor Dhona, then a couple in Limsa, one in Ul'dah, and one in Aleport.
That will unlock the 50/60/70 dungeon roulette.
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boreal storm
If you haven't gotten the Hard trials, they're in the waking sands
high otter
btw where can I check how many tomestones I have rn
faint flare
Currency tab
boreal storm
or ctrl c
faint flare
Or click the gil icon next to money