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#questions-and-help
polar hound
oh yeah mb i thought this was quest/job gear for some reason
tidal yarrow
yeah sorry
forest sage
@leaden ginkgo we don't really know the details but golden mount should be 5.5 on the 13th and relic is 5.55 which should be late may/early june? not sure if they touched on an approximative date for that, but roughly you're correct
honest anvil
is it possible to change my bozja instance?
final niche
any place to buy glamour from?
raven sage
leave and come back in and hope it puts you in a different one
final niche
glamour prisem*
raven sage
your gc
honest anvil
i tried leave and re-entered but got in the same one
raven sage
or the mb if you just have money to burn
Well that's your only option since you can't select instances
honest anvil
i’m just wondering if i have to leave gangos too or sth
jovial terrace
whats a good way of making money?
raven sage
nope it's entirely dependent on whether or not it can put you in a new instance
merry tinsel
Does the grand company you join matter in any way later on?
raven sage
just glamour and location convenience
polar hound
Does the grand company you join matter in any way later on?
nope, only for cosmetic purposes
merry tinsel
oki
polar hound
and i guess hub location
honest anvil
whats a good way of making money?
@jovial terrace become an omni crafter and gatherer then find your niche on the market to sell stuff
or play the lottery game and farm trials, bozja for materials, mounts, hairstyles
sacred sky
whats a good way of making money?
Max out a Gatherer and sell the crystals on MB in large batches
brittle flower
Dont know if this is the right channel but im a bit desperate at this point. Bought the game yesterday, had it on for like 10 hours and only managed to download 5gb. Is this normal download speed? My internet is pretty good, usually get like 20mb/s download on steam so idk why its this low.
strange coral
Some people have said using XIVQuickLauncher gave them better speeds, if you don't mind using a 3rd party tool
next jay
hmm.. weird.. i keep on being disconnected. even though my internet was fine
rigid narwhal
chilly flax
@gleaming mist thank you very much. I didnt have the right launcher, but now I have. Job Icons is working perfectly 😄
gleaming mist
👍
zinc orbitBOT
toxic falcon
Btw in order to do lv 80 dung roulette I gotta do 4 lv 80 dungs right?
open coral
You need to do all of the level 80 dungeons.
Or at least, all of the ones in that particular roulette, which is all of them except for the two that are in Extreme roulette
open coral
I think there's 5 right now.
Don't quote me on that though.
I will, however, note that all but two of them are also MSQ-required, so you should have done them anyways.
analog gate
look for a blue quest on the ground floor of eulmore
faint flare
No
gloomy ice
There are two optional level 80 dungeons. One unlocked in the Crystarium and the other in the bottom floor of Eulmore. All other 80 dungeons are main quests.
toxic falcon
Idk what they are then, the msq ones
faint flare
Twinning, amarout, Akadenia and Grand cosmos
toxic falcon
I'm pretty sure there's only one lv80 dung in msq
earnest cobalt
Is it better to max out your first job class before moving on to the other ones?
toxic falcon
@earnest cobalt yes
slate arrow
generally, yes, but play how you like
toxic falcon
Don't overwhelmed yourself
analog gate
Idk what they are then, the msq ones
||from msq: amaurot, grand cosmos, anamnesis
optional: twinning, akadaemia||
toxic falcon
||so yeah theres only one msq lv 80dng||
analog gate
if you haven't seen one of the MSQ ones, just continue MSQ?
slate arrow
no there's 5
toxic falcon
I just finished shb
faint flare
All 80 dungeons but 2 are msq
faint flare
The others are in post story
strange coral
Patch MSQ is still MSQ
toxic falcon
So the second is in patch
earnest cobalt
@outer fern @slate arrow gotcha, appreciate the info.
strange coral
There are several new duties from the patches
wintry chasm
raids aren't MSQ
analog gate
there's usually lots of extra content during the patches between expansions, if that's what you mean
final niche
what are the most common materials used in crafting?
toxic falcon
Ngl idk where to start
toxic falcon
What I wanna do is get to lv80 ddk
analog gate
MSQ first to the end
toxic falcon
Just so it's 80
analog gate
you won't regret it
toxic falcon
Because I really, really don't like it
slate arrow
what are the most common materials used in crafting?
tomestone materials, aethersand, and ALC solvent precrafts
toxic falcon
I'd rather want to do gunbreaker
final niche
tomestone materials, aethersand, and ALC solvent precrafts
ty
toxic falcon
I still gotta do Ivalice raids
After that's done. Phhf
Finished sb content. Once drk 80, go to drk, grind till idk....
Fuck idk what to do here
Also. Besides gear
What's the point of lv80 dungs?
faint flare
Tomestones
faint flare
Both allegory and revelation
faint flare
Not exactly
toxic falcon
Ofc
slate arrow
a combination of both Eulmore and Savage raid gear is considered Best In Slot
faint flare
Augmented Cryptlurker with revelation tomes and eden promise savage gear is best
toxic falcon
...
faint flare
Augments for Crpytlurker is via savage for now
faint flare
High end raids
slate arrow
tl;dr current savage raid tier + tomestone stuff augmented with savage raid drop
modern thorn
Do we get new a grade5 tonic and new food at 5.5?
faint flare
No
modern thorn
ty
slate arrow
no
glossy flare
not until 6.0
faint flare
That only comes with new raid tiers
toxic falcon
DAMMIT
Oh. ||That old guy, ranjity? I think that's how you say his name. What's his class. Because I want that now||
open coral
He has an NPC class.
faint flare
He doesn't have one that we can access
glossy flare
yeah, we don't know
open coral
Not available to players.
glossy flare
but the community assumes he may be a hint to the new melee job coming with EW
or part of the community assumes at least
toxic falcon
Idc if that's a healer. I still want that scythe
open coral
It's not a healer.
open coral
They've already announced the upcoming healer class. Sage.
toxic falcon
I'd still get it
heavy wadi
We're getting a healer and an unknown melee dps
toxic falcon
Tank?
glossy flare
no, melee dps
open coral
No, melee dps.
toxic falcon
Odd. No new tank
open coral
We just got a new tank in ShB.
toxic falcon
...there's only 4 of them?
toxic falcon
That's odd
open coral
It's really not.
toxic falcon
Makes it seem boring ngl
glossy flare
It makes sense, considering that most of the playerbase is interested in dps jobs
as per the usual mmo populace
toxic falcon
This is coming form someone who hates magic so
toxic falcon
It makes sense, considering that most of the playerbase is interested in dps job...
But they are never in need XD
I only see them in need once
heavy wadi
there's an oversaturation of dps
glossy flare
Speaking from a game design perspective it's also harder to design tanks and healers when compared to dps jobs
open coral
MMOs always have more dps classes than tanks or healers.
glossy flare
Only so many ways how you can take a hit or heal someone
anyway, this is going offtopic I guess
open coral
Yeah, it's getting more into discussion than questions and help
toxic falcon
😕
vernal urchin
You're free to talk about it in #general-discussion or#rants
leaden ginkgo
As someone who doesn’t stay in one place for too long due to circumstances, is it better if I buy the art book for this game online or offline?
When a duty doesn’t have “item level sync” does that mean even if my item level is 520, I can enter it without stat adjustments?
last patio
can you just get invited back to the novice chat after hitting ShB or do you have to become a mentor to make it back?
faint flare
If there's no level sync yes
faint flare
can you just get invited back to the novice chat after hitting ShB or do you hav...
Gotta be mentor or a returner
twilit arch
you have to either be a mentor or returner (which you get after not playing that character for like 30-45 days)
last patio
welp time to start leveling some gatherer and crafter jobs :v
strange coral
!fr in #kupo-bot-spam
frigid pelican
ty
jovial terrace
also what are poetics used for? level 70 gear?
zinc orbitBOT
velvet briar
i have a question where i cant find a answer for like 2 hours now
so how do i unlock aetherflow or different job abilities for other jobs ?
analog gate
what's the gil reward for level 80 roulette?
80 gives special tomestones that you can only obtain with level 80 content
allegory (not limited) and revelations (limited per week)
manic flare
i have a question where i cant find a answer for like 2 hours now
so how do i u...
through leveling
aetherflow is only for summoner and scholar tho
other jobs have other gauges
strange coral
"different job abilities for other jobs" if you mean cross-class skills, those aren't a thing anymore
glossy flare
i have a question where i cant find a answer for like 2 hours now
so how do i u...
Leveling and/or doing your job quests
toxic falcon
If I'm playing for just the tombstone
velvet briar
so basically i need do lv a scholar to a specific lv to unlock aetherflow for my smn
glossy flare
no
toxic falcon
The stuff in ||elmore||is the best?
glossy flare
Those two are a bit special
toxic falcon
Because fuck relics
glossy flare
Because any levelup you get on SMN you also get on SCH
toxic falcon
Unless they are broken
glossy flare
But those are the only two jobs that work that way
Both still have their own job quests though which you need to do to unlock certain skills
velvet briar
But those are the only two jobs that work that way
so im lv 70 smn rn
velvet briar
if i i go and be a scholar now i could use aetherflow when i unlock it on scholar?
toxic falcon
If anything I'll do gunbreaker
glossy flare
SMN aetherflow and SCH aetherflow are two different things
they don't work the same
It's best to think about the two jobs as well... completely separate jobs that just happen to share a level
manic flare
If anything I'll do gunbreaker
i thought you were a dark knight or dragoon?
twilit arch
you use aetherflow to get aetherflow on scholar
twilit arch
manic flare
go with whatever class you find the aethetic appealing
velvet briar
other question can a alchemist trade me the gallant armor augment items?
raven sage
yes
rough fossil
Is there a way to change default gpose settings?
toxic falcon
Idk what is aetheticly good
manic flare
Idk what is aetheticly good
well what kind of weapons you find appealing?
toxic falcon
But honestly. A ranged dps
twilit arch
@rough fossil not that im aware of
manic flare
summoner uses books
glossy flare
If you want ranged dps but dnc is boring you then give mch a shot (no pun intended)
onyx anchor
Grimoire? Nah just throw books at enemies.
toxic falcon
Nah I love dps
glossy flare
but... mch is dps
toxic falcon
I did mech
But stopped because I wanted msq done
But I'll pick it up
Maybe
As for book. Idk
manic flare
you might like red mage
manic flare
it's a sword wielding caster class
manic flare
why not?
toxic falcon
I hate. Magic
glossy flare
Just going by what wasn't mentioned now... nin?
rough fossil
<@!382608998517571594> not that im aware of
Ah darn. Oh well
manic flare
monk
manic flare
you like punching people?
manic flare
u like wearing casual clothes?
toxic falcon
Not.. exactly
glossy flare
Okay now I'm confused. You want ranged dps but no magic. And dnc wasn't for you, yes?
toxic falcon
I mean. What's causal in ff14
glossy flare
That only leaves brd and mch
glossy flare
whatever, still leaves only mch and brd
toxic falcon
Brd?
clever cave
Paralysis > surecast ?
glossy flare
bard
onyx anchor
How does the Glamour system work? Do ye, like, unlock an item to glamour and then make any item of the same class and type look like it or is it a one-time use per item?
glossy flare
shoot arrows, manage dots, play songs
toxic falcon
...oh archer lv up
manic flare
bard is similar to dancer
twilit arch
you can use the item you want to glamour multiple times, so long as you either have a glamour prism in your inventory or its in your glamour dresser @onyx anchor
toxic falcon
Because bard is a continuation to archer right?
glossy flare
yes
toxic falcon
So any of those items. Gone. The story. Gone
I'd try it but
I'd have to get my barings about it
glossy flare
Well I'm sorry but that's all the ranged dps we have 😅
manic flare
so u tried tank and dps
onyx anchor
you can use the item you want to glamour multiple times, so long as you either h...
Oh, do items in the Glamour Dresser not need a Prism to use?
(Sorry for the ping)
manic flare
how about healer?
twilit arch
Nope, items in the dresser don't need a prism to use them
onyx anchor
Sweet, thanks!
glossy flare
you need one to put them in there though
manic flare
why not?
glossy flare
so you only pay once
toxic falcon
I don't like healers
twilit arch
but that said you have to be at the dresser to glamour it or make a plate with the item to glamour it in any of the major cities/safe zones
manic flare
well have you ever tried?
twilit arch
please take this elsewhere snack/noct
onyx anchor
DMs...?
trim plume
help
i have two service accounts
one for beta ffxiv
one for regular ffxiv
which account do i activate it on? i bought a seperate key.
trim plume
i haven't played in um forever....
mental oracle
Is weaver's guild the best way to increase your craftmanship?
wintry chasm
Is weaver's guild the best way to increase your craftmanship?
guilds don't increase stats
trim plume
2013 accoubt lmao
lament basalt
why is there such a low cap for poetic tomestones
mental oracle
guilds don't increase stats
I mean the things that you craft
glossy flare
why is there such a low cap for poetic tomestones
so you farm them more often
twilit arch
Because SE doesn't want you hoarding tomestones to instantly buy things as they come out
wintry chasm
put the key on the service account you use is the simplest answer really Aitski
twilit arch
so it keeps old lvl cap content somewhat active
trim plume
Which one has the character you play on?
2 but should i use one?
lament basalt
ive been sitting at 2k forever with nothing yet to spend it on and ive probably earned about 10 times that amount while capped
glossy flare
what level are you?
faint flare
!faq poetics
zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
Spend them herw
wintry chasm
Making a second service account is never really a good idea since it means having to sub/buy the game twice, is just easier to make a new character on the same service account. I can't know how much you've put into both service accounts Aitski but...I'd really just pick 1 to use?
trim plume
put the key on the service account you use is the simplest answer really Aitski
i got to lvl 12 on one???? i wasnt really active in the beta or after buying it.
wintry chasm
is it possible to reach 275 craftmanship at level 45?
Nahhh
That seems pretty high
When you hit level 50 though the quality of gear skyrockets
and you should hit it though
trim plume
Making a second service account is never really a good idea since it means havin...
oh i see. i llayed on ps4 so i couldnt mege the accounts then.
lament basalt
what level are you?
im 68 but just started the stormblood content
wintry chasm
oh i see. i llayed on ps4 so i couldnt mege the accounts then.
I never played so long ago so I didn't know you couldn't, this makes sense, not sure what you can do about that now though
mental oracle
When you hit level 50 though the quality of gear skyrockets
where do I get this gear? from npc or weaver's crafting?
mental oracle
oh nice
wintry chasm
Ishgard vendor sells level 51 gear normal quality so it's not amazing but it's still a massive jump then what you'd wear now
honest anvil
what’s the drop rate of tsukoyomi’s mat? celestial kimono remnant?
zinc orbitBOT
twilit arch
its pretty low
honest anvil
is 20 runs with no drop normal or bad luck?
twilit arch
sounds pretty normal
velvet briar
alright my scholar is lv 70 and my smn is 70 so still cant use aetherflow on smn is it cuz i havent completed the scholar levelquest?
faint flare
No
Summoner gets aetherflow differently
They get it by using energy drain
They dont have the aetherflow skill
Jobs have separate skills
faint flare
Thats old
Ignore anything over like a year
You want Shadowbringers specific videos
velvet briar
so u cant trade over abilities anymore?
faint flare
Not stormblood or oldee
Cross class isn't a thing, not that aetherflow was a cross class
Summoner lost Aetherflow the skill in Shadowbringers
velvet briar
ohh ok
slate arrow
if you see a TP bar, you should just ignore the video yeah
open ember
If its posted before July 2019, tis old
shrewd viper
guess the price on mb is justified afterall >.>
if you have crafters up
nobody ever rolls on the random shitty tsukuyomi weapon drops
so u should roll on those and desynth
velvet briar
and how do i get relic weapons?
open ember
Which relics?
shrewd viper
its another (admittedly not great but it is another chance) at getting a kimono
open ember
There's seperate ones for every expansion
honest anvil
desynth doesnt give the kimono mat
velvet briar
like the best rarity weapons
rough fossil
What does Arges in the Aquapolis do? If I see him should I engage or not?
open ember
So Shadowbringers relics?
slate arrow
like the best rarity weapons
they're all purple rarity
faint flare
Rarity doesn't mean anything btw
slate arrow
you need to be more specific
open ember
Yeah I was a bit confused
velvet briar
then i just say the stupid grimoire that has dragon wings something like that
open ember
Oh
slate arrow
... there's multiple of those, too
warm snow
Relics are grindy weapons with a quest line that eventually become the strongest weapons of the given expansion
open ember
Do you have an image??
warm snow
They usually have customizable sub stats
velvet briar
i just have vid of one using it
open ember
Let's see
velvet briar
like this one for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHTCwDXVeWY
warm snow
That'd the heavensward summoner relic
faint flare
For purple wings
slate arrow
the final step, specifically
strange coral
What does Arges in the Aquapolis do? If I see him should I engage or not?
Bonus mob that drops a treasure chest if you kill it before it disappears
slate arrow
!faq anims
zinc orbitBOT
slate arrow
!faq anima
zinc orbitBOT
warm snow
And it's pretty much the best looking summoner weapon we've ever gotten
open ember
Admittedly Heavensward relics are actually 90% poetics grind
open ember
And Stormblood relics requires Eureka
warm snow
Sb are all tied to eureka
open ember
Yep
slate arrow
we dont talk about stormblood unless you're crazy enough to do eureka
open ember
Its easy tho LOL
open ember
Oh well this isnt a discussion but still. HW relics are quite easy and tolerable in terms of the grind
lost sinew
also a convenient poetic dump
rough fossil
Bonus mob that drops a treasure chest if you kill it before it disappears
Ah I figured as much. Are they hard enough to make it a gamble? I only run these maps as a duo
slate arrow
worth making an attempt at any rate
warm snow
Ah I figured as much. Are they hard enough to make it a gamble? I only run these...
They're solo able with a blu mage and basic instinct
And you might as well try
rough fossil
Ah we just run GNB/SCH
Haven’t worked on BLU much yet
Also what are the odds for the rainbow save?
slate arrow
low enough
I don't think there's been enough reported data to make an accurate calculation
rough fossil
We finally cleared last night (after never making it past 2nd room before) and got like 3 rainbows on the way. It was quite an emotional rollercoaster
faint flare
Tbh i feel like its just a 50/50 to pick the correct door and it just randomises the opening animation to troll
slate arrow
unless we get direct access to the server code we'll never be sure of the exact percents
rough fossil
Like gacha pulls
slate arrow
eeeeyup
lost sinew
if you could somehow argue that the entire game is legally a lootbox, you could force them to diclose all the %s 🙂
lost sinew
i mean you pay money and you get random drops 😛
wispy peak
best way to speed level?
slate arrow
tl;dr leveling dungeons > palace of the dead/Heaven on high/Bozja > everything else
faint flare
!faq altlvlguide
zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
See here for more
lilac dock
odd, ive done both prerequisite sidequests and cant see the dwarf beast tribe quest
silver lion
Im on free trial, Can I still get a mount ?
zinc orbitBOT
silver lion
ohh thank you
btw I have some couple question
I bought the starter edition
of ff14
but normally that means its the same thing as trial ?
its just I have to buy sub
right ?
little swift
It also means you own the game so you have access to all the social features previously unavailable
crystal bluff
Yes and no
The amount of content in the game is the same as free trial
But you don't have any of the gil/social/etc restrictions
I believe you get 30 days of sub with starter edition
scarlet arrow
it's the same content as the free trial without the free trial restrictions
scarlet arrow
so you have all chat channels, access to retainers and the market board, no gil cap, etc.
you can never go back to the free trial if you've applied a game code however
little swift
Pvp access was removed from trial accounts recently because of an exploit people were using to take the fun out of playing it
little swift
For squadrons?
Iirc the same time as the grand company supply/provisioning deliveries
Can check that in timers
It should be in about 2.5 to 3.5 hours
frigid pelican
ah ok thx
silver lion
interesting
zealous flower
i forget how the icons go, is this kind soloable
zealous flower
oh it totally was lol, i just psyched myself out since i never paid attention to the icons
remote lintel
@silver lion whenever you feel like it
inland zenith
Should I keep the equipment I used in the weekly fashion report? I was thinking about desynthesizing it
zealous flower
it might sell on the market for slightly more if other people are doing fashion
remote lintel
you can't sell it on the mb
inland zenith
yeah, they're binded
zealous flower
oh right i just made extras
little swift
i forget how the icons go, is this kind soloable
B Ranks are meant to be soloable
zealous flower
when i sold mine
empty pecan
How do you farm rank 5's in bozja? They seem to hurt too much.
warm snow
oh it totally was lol, i just psyched myself out since i never paid attention to...
That's your weekly b rank, they're always soloable
little swift
How do you farm rank 5's in bozja? They seem to hurt too much.
Need a party and good essences
wispy peak
whats the highest you can bet in the golden saucer?
jovial tide
Could I get the link to that google doc with all the info on law's order steps?
Was wanting to reference the reduced requirements for further relic weapons beyond your first
strange coral
!faq newplayertips
zinc orbitBOT
fallen niche
what's the best way to farm yellow gatherers scrips? I have a level 80 MIN and BTN
bright snow
ty
strange coral
what's the best way to farm yellow gatherers scrips? I have a level 80 MIN and B...
Custom deliveries first, crystarium deliveries if you haven't done them, and then gathering collectibles after that.
fallen niche
did my crystarium deliveries, I know Khole gives yellow scrips, who else?
Because iirc Naago and Kai-shirr give white scrips
strange coral
All of them give yellow and white
Ones that you have at max rank can have a weekly bonus too
fallen niche
ah
plain python
do Peloton, NIN's speed passive and MNK's Fist of Wind give the same speed bonus?
faint flare
No
plain python
which of them would be the fastest then? 😮
mystic lily
Peloton is partywide, i think 15%
manic flare
does peloton stack with ninja's (passive) and monk's speed bonuses?
wintry chasm
No
manic flare
fuck
wintry chasm
Just like how it doesn't stack with sprint
manic flare
does sprint stack with ninja's speed bonus and monk's
round crag
It doesn’t stack
mystic lily
Speed bonuses are mutually exclusive by the looks of it
shrewd mirage
it says i can't carry anymore of iron sand but i can't find any of it in my inventory where does it get stored?
manic flare
do any speed bonuses stack
round crag
Everyone sprints at the same speed
mystic lily
So the highest ones takes presedence
round crag
No
wintry chasm
The only thing that I am aware of that MIGHT stack is the Eureka shoes and other things
round crag
Speed bonuses don’t stack
wintry chasm
but I doubt that stacks yeah
mystic lily
It doesn't i just tried sprint then pelotron on my bard
wintry chasm
that doesn't change m-
round crag
If you get peloton you’ll run at the same pace as the rest of the party. If you sprint you’ll go faster
tribal apex
Would I miss anything if I wanted to rush though arr? I’ve been told it’s stupid long (compared to the other expansions) and so far it’s been pretty much go here talk to him and do fetch quests over and over
wintry chasm
arm's length doesn't mitigate damage
wintry chasm
Would I miss anything if I wanted to rush though arr? I’ve been told it’s stupid...
It's stupidly long but that doesn't mean it's stupidly bad
manic flare
i meant iit slows enemies, so it indirectly mitigates
mystic lily
Yes Damien, quite abit
tribal apex
It's stupidly long but that doesn't mean it's stupidly bad
Not saying it’s bad
wintry chasm
It's poorly paced mainly at the beginning but it covers SO MUCH plot
and it's really important
round crag
It slows enemies yeah. And any damage mitigation will still apply
mystic lily
It sets up the rest of the game quite alot, that's all i can say without spoiling to much
round crag
Arm’s length don’t work on bosses though
tribal apex
I like the story but god I would like to stuff other than msq all day
round crag
Except for like the super low level arr bosses
wintry chasm
I like the story but god I would like to stuff other than msq all day
Well you can always do all the optional stuff when you don't want to do MSQ
mystic lily
Nothing stops you
wintry chasm
There is so much optional shit in ARR
tribal apex
I do
mystic lily
You can always craft etc
mystic lily
That's not locked behind MSQ, neither is leveling alts (for the most part)
Alt jobs sorry
There's a few that are expansion locked
wintry chasm
Guess I’m used to other mmo rushing you to main stuff quickly
Yeah no, no need for that
Take your time and chill
mystic lily
Machinist, Dark, astro are expansion locked iirc?
manic flare
I like the story but god I would like to stuff other than msq all day
i haven't touched msq in like 4 months, so it's fine
play the game how you want
tribal apex
Do any raid stuff open from the option quests?
manic flare
don't let others peer pressure you into doing something u don't want to do
tribal apex
Or is that msq stuff
mystic lily
Yes, but those come at 50
mystic lily
Some raids open up via MSQ tho
tribal apex
Welp that honestly helps me
mystic lily
But many of the big ones are locked behind optional quests
tribal apex
I was worried a lot of the raid stuff and really good dungeons were locked behind msq
delicate field
I was worried a lot of the raid stuff and really good dungeons were locked behin...
They are
mystic lily
Oh right
delicate field
The entire end game is locked behind MSQ
mystic lily
Yeah, forgot about that part
wintry chasm
I was worried a lot of the raid stuff and really good dungeons were locked behin...
Sure but those aren't going away now are they
But yeah like
raids are like...locked behind a certain amount of MSQ and then optional quests
mystic lily
The raid stuff isn't really that important in the end either, unless you care for glamour stuff
wintry chasm
for example gotta finish Stormblood base story to unlock the Stormblood raids but those raids are optional
tribal apex
I’m gonna kill the bastard who told me ff14 wasn’t time consuming
mystic lily
Or want to see the story
remote lintel
also "go here and talk to this guy" is basically what questing is
toxic falcon
potd is the main lv method right?
mystic lily
FF14 isn't time consuming comparatively
wintry chasm
I’m gonna kill the bastard who told me ff14 wasn’t time consuming
I mean, there is no like, grind that you HAVE to commit to for whatever reasons
In that sense it's not time consuming at all
mystic lily
Yeah, that
delicate field
@tribal apex there are nearly 800 quests for the entire MSQ
wintry chasm
potd is the main lv method right?
Kinda
toxic falcon
whats the best, roultetes
wintry chasm
PotD is the main way to level if you are having long dungeon queues and stuff
manic flare
potd is the main lv method right?
no. latest level dungeons are the best for leveling
mystic lily
For what noct?
toxic falcon
my drks 71, and i want to get it to 80
manic flare
people do potd because queues are faster
tribal apex
Guess I’m just going to have to suck it up and do msq to figure out what I want out of this
mystic lily
All of them Noct
manic flare
my drks 71, and i want to get it to 80
do bozja
toxic falcon
not in bozja
wintry chasm
What you want to do is roulettes -> highest level leveling dungeon spam
if you have long dungeon queues
roulettes -> Palace of the dead floors 51-60 but that only is good for leveling up to level 60 @toxic falcon
fallen onyx
Yo, can I send a pic and if anyone knows where it is could someone tell me please? 😭
remote lintel
Guess I’m just going to have to suck it up and do msq to figure out what I want ...
the story is 75% of the game
manic flare
not in bozja
then do highest level dungeon
toxic falcon
you sure?
manic flare
and msq, alliance, leveling, frontlines roulettes
toxic falcon
becauise a lv 70 dung only gave 900k
wintry chasm
highest level LEVELING dungeon
manic flare
don't do 70, cuz that's not a leveling dungeon
faint flare
You dont do level cap dungeons
wintry chasm
level 70 was the old level cap
toxic falcon
um
tribal apex
the story is 75% of the game
Hope gameplay picks up quickly because story won’t hold me forever
remote lintel
level cap dungeons aren't good for exp
faint flare
Level cap dungeons aren't levelling dungeons
toxic falcon
it waisnt
mystic lily
@tribal apex Don't worry about content while leveling in all honesty, it's not going anywhere. And gameplay will pick up
toxic falcon
it was a 50/60/70
faint flare
Those give shit xp
toxic falcon
gave 900k
faint flare
Cause they had none to begin with
wintry chasm
Yeah 50/60/70 roulette isn't amazing for xp anyway compared to the others
faint flare
They're not made for levelling
toxic falcon
so those lv 16 dung>
mystic lily
ARR is poorly paced, but it was also very much rushed development
manic flare
it was a 50/60/70
do castrum abania if you're at level 70
then do a level 71 dungeon after u hit level 71
wintry chasm
the level 69 dungeon
manic flare
castrum abania
mystic lily
ARR was what, developed in two years?
toxic falcon
why that one
faint flare
Levelling roulette, main scenario and alliance raid are the most xp roulettes to do daily
wintry chasm
but it involved crates IIRC
manic flare
because it's a level 69 dungeon
elfin edge
that's in coerthas western highlands I think
wintry chasm
why that one
It's the highest level dungeon you have that ISN'T a level cap
mystic lily
They even cut alot of the fluff out of ARR a while ago
elfin edge
if you go northeast from the aethyrte
toxic falcon
hm...
wintry chasm
level cap dungeons give bad xp on purpose since they were the old level cap
toxic falcon
if i have
manic flare
noct, just do castrum abania until you hit level 71
elfin edge
it's a fair distance away though
sacred sky
Ok, you need to go around the building -- to the Left of where you have the camera pointing. Then jump up onto the ledge and WALK slowly around.
wintry chasm
Noct plz
leaden ginkgo
What happens if you don’t heal trust NPCs? Can they die? or just get the “out of the action” debuff?
toxic falcon
im AT 71!!!
wintry chasm
What happens if you don’t heal trust NPCs? Can they die? or just get the “out of...
Theyc an die
manic flare
oh then do the level 71 dungeon
faint flare
Then do Holmstier switch
toxic falcon
if i have the ivlu for it
wintry chasm
You should
faint flare
You should, get Scaevan
mystic lily
Holminster switch has a really forgiving ilvl req
faint flare
In every slot
wintry chasm
340?
toxic falcon
yes
wintry chasm
Scaevan gear is 400
toxic falcon
not every slot but base gear
polar hound
^
toxic falcon
340
manic flare
i have it
@toxic falcon do your roulettes first. after msq, alliance raid, leveling, and frontlines roulettes, you should be level 73
wintry chasm
that's....very low
toxic falcon
ya think?
faint flare
You want it in every slot
manic flare
noct do your roulettes before you queue for holminster
roulettes might actually raise you to 73
toxic falcon
get as many stones as possible
manic flare
AHHH AND I GOT WORK IN A HOUR
use your poetics to buy scaevan gear in kugane
toxic falcon
ik wher eto get it
mystic lily
Or rhalgr
toxic falcon
its a class i wont use again once at lv80
manic flare
kugane is much easier
mystic lily
I prefer rhalger myself since the aetheryte is more convini8ently placed
delicate field
It's not grind if you roulette and gain xp in the process
manic flare
cuz the scaevan gear merchant is right at the kugane aetheryte
sacred sky
Please tell me that the weekly limit on the Tomestones of Revelation will be dropped in 5.5 or 5.55 ?
faint flare
Please tell me that the weekly limit on the Tomestones of Revelation will be dro...
5.56
mystic lily
Probs 5.56 yes
faint flare
And not removed
mystic lily
Which will be the last patch before 6.0
faint flare
Just doubled
toxic falcon
so in terms of rouleetes, just do leveling
faint flare
And alliance raid
sacred sky
So...uhhh...abotut thirty minutes before 6.0 hits preorders...
mystic lily
MSQ ro is also alot of xp
toxic falcon
raid
faint flare
Its the second most xp roulette
toxic falcon
ik
mystic lily
But it's not xp efficient
toxic falcon
also
manic flare
so in terms of rouleetes, just do leveling
alliance raid, leveling, frontlines, and msq roulettes
mystic lily
If you look at time
toxic falcon
is the msq roul only two?>
faint flare
Yes
toxic falcon
should be called arr rouleete then lol
manic flare
but no gil tho
heavy wadi
and then 71+ bozja
toxic falcon
again
elfin edge
msq roulette is great for relaxing
toxic falcon
no where close to bojza
mystic lily
Yup!
sacred sky
To make sure I understand... when it hits 5.56, the limit doubles to 900/wk
mystic lily
Are you still on the msq Noct?
toxic falcon
yes
mystic lily
Then just keep doing the MSQ
delicate field
You're so close to bozja with base shb done
sacred sky
Wait, you finished all of ShB and you're lvl.71 ?!
toxic falcon
NO]
mystic lily
Yeah
faint flare
Alt job
delicate field
Unlock it and go chill in Bozja, it's nice
heavy wadi
if you're 80 you can get bozja
toxic falcon
...
heavy wadi
it's the easiest way to level 71-80
sacred sky
Bozja at lvl.71 is also a great way to get gear that'll help down the road.
delicate field
@sacred sky what gear? I didn't see gear there
elfin edge
yeah first step of resistance weapons is so easy for a ilvl 485 weapon
heavy wadi
you can get gear at 80
faint flare
<@319371152923557889> what gear? I didn't see gear there
You cab get gear after clearing castrum and Delerum
delicate field
With a higher resistance rank?
sacred sky
10
heavy wadi
and you don't need to gear alt jobs while leveling b/c it scales you anyways
faint flare
Via their coins
toxic falcon
Also
mystic lily
Yeah, i'm rank 3 myself
toxic falcon
How does bojza help lv wise?
heavy wadi
not really, it's pretty quick to go 8-10
toxic falcon
But your lv80
faint flare
For outside
delicate field
@toxic falcon fates give you 1 mil xp
toxic falcon
Hm?
faint flare
Its like palace of the dead
heavy wadi
you can go into bozja starting at level 71
mystic lily
Your illv and lvl are synced
toxic falcon
Oh
heavy wadi
but you need to be 80 to unlock it
toxic falcon
But your auto 80 if your not already.
faint flare
You're hard set to 80 in bojza but you get xp outside if you're under 80
toxic falcon
Ohhhhh
delicate field
You're 80 but still gain xp normally
toxic falcon
So what's the bare mon
mystic lily
So you're automaticly level 80 and your geart will be set to a certain ilvl
toxic falcon
Min
mystic lily
71
faint flare
71
mystic lily
We've said it a million times
delicate field
Fates in Bozja give you a million xp for your class every time, it's fast
toxic falcon
What the fuck is going on in bojza...
heavy wadi
and then Critical Engagements give like 2-3mil exp
faint flare
Bojza is basically a giant fate farming zone
Just run around farming fates and que for CEs, which are basically open world boss fights
delicate field
Those bosses are so hard lol
heavy wadi
not really
faint flare
They're not
heavy wadi
they take a bit of time to learn
faint flare
Their mechanics are pretty basic
faint flare
No
toxic falcon
Hm
faint flare
Choco is easy
toxic falcon
Ok ok
faint flare
Don't be baited
toxic falcon
I'll fuckin get to bojza
mystic lily
Red choco is just chaotic
delicate field
DO IT lol
toxic falcon
AHH
heavy wadi
that's what makes it hard lmao, the chaos
toxic falcon
You GOTTA DO THAT RAJD DO YA
heavy wadi
otherwise it's not bad yeah
delicate field
You'll do 3 really fun raids too, the iv Alice raids
toxic falcon
Ivlance
If that's it, don't like
I watch a vid and read the story on it
Since you gotta do it to continue msq right?
mystic lily
No
faint flare
To do bojza
toxic falcon
Thank god
mystic lily
yes
toxic falcon
Oh it is?
mystic lily
You need do 5.1+Ivalice yes
toxic falcon
...so you DO need to do Ivalice
mystic lily
YES!
elfin edge
yes, you do need to do ivalice, just it's not required for MSQ
elfin edge
it's optional as in it's not required for MSQ
mystic lily
I said Ivalice is optional content
faint flare
Optional for msq
mystic lily
You keep not reading what we are saying
toxic falcon
Ig so
I keep hearing the two things of you gotta do ivlance and you don't gotta do Ivalice
And it confuses me
Alot
warm snow
To progress the main story you don't need ivalice
mystic lily
For 71-80 Bozje is the best you can level through, for that you need to do 5.1+Ivalice raid
warm snow
To access a large portion of shadowbringers endgame content, you need ivalice
modest igloo
No reldor that is a bit confuseing even to me and I’ve done it lol
round crag
You only need to do ivalice if you want to do bozja
open ember
You can't access relics with Ivalice
round crag
Which is also optional
toxic falcon
So I gotta do ivlance if I wanna do bojza fates
warm snow
Yes
toxic falcon
Great
warm snow
Bozja isn't part of the main story
open ember
You should do all alliance raids anyway
warm snow
Technically optional
toxic falcon
I don't like them
delicate field
You never tried them lol
toxic falcon
Yes I have
mystic lily
Reldor Silverheart (Phoenix) — Idag 20:08
Okay, go and do rabanastre, lighthouse and monastery
Unlock bozje
Chill
Is what i said earlier, tho at that point i didn't know you hadn't done the MSQ
warm snow
No one tells him some of the best music in the game is in the 24 man shadowbringers raids
toxic falcon
Yeah
faint flare
So you do
delicate field
How? You don't have Ivalice unlocked
toxic falcon
I DO AND DID THE FIRST ONE AND HATED IT
fallen onyx
Can anyone help me find out a place of a pic?
elfin edge
crystal tower raids are very different from the shadowbringers alliance raid
warm snow
Yeah but nier automata ost + ShB composer
elfin edge
because everyone is overgeared for crystal tower
mystic lily
Crystal tower is 50
toxic falcon
There is just some stuff in this game I don't like
elfin edge
so the feel is very different
toxic falcon
Alliance raids are one of them
warm snow
Can anyone help me find out a place of a pic?
I can try
mystic lily
Looks like yanxia or around there
warm snow
I get the feeling that's a housing item being used for a photo op
mystic lily
Yeah, could be to
elfin edge
it's the top of a house, right?
warm snow
Could be an outside gazebo or some shit either
fallen onyx
So it's in a district area?
mystic lily
The level 70 ivalican raids are great
warm snow
Sorry dude I can't help you. It's too vague
fallen onyx
Thank you anyway
elfin edge
just make sure you know your math
mystic lily
Defo a roof of some kind
elfin edge
:3
elfin edge
the math boss actually shows up in bozja lol (just without the math parts)
fallen onyx
Thx I'll look into roofs, really a big help
toxic falcon
ok
mystic lily
We've been trying to help noct in all honesty
elfin edge
oh right, if I want to learn to heal extreme content, is there a recommended ShB extreme I should try to learn in?
open ember
If they don't like alliance raids, then so be it. That's their decision. Shurgs
toxic falcon
I'm just not looking forward to those raids
mystic lily
But if you want to level to 71 without bozje, do all the roulettes and spam dungeons
That
That's it
elfin edge
I've only done emex as a dps, but it doesn't look like it's a good place to start to learn how to heal
toxic falcon
If anything I'll just screw around. One less dps ain't the end of the world
mystic lily
Also do the huntboard
delicate field
@toxic falcon if one person fails mechanics can cause a wipe
warm snow
Unlike ct and the hw raids sb are a lot less braindead
faint flare
<@537779168671432706> if one person fails mechanics can cause a wipe
No it cant
toxic falcon
And that's why I hate alliance raids :|||||
faint flare
That's false entirely
toxic falcon
I hope
faint flare
Fucking people die like flies in 24mans
polar hound
the mechanics that could cause wipes were mostly nerfed
faint flare
You only wipe in 24mans if the entire group is braindead
mystic lily
In alliance raids , 1 dead dps doesn't break the fight no. So don't worry
Most of all, mistakes will happen
So embrace them and learn
Rather than be afraid of them
polar hound
but also 'just screwing around' in 24mans or well, any content involving other players, is frowned upon
toxic falcon
So what
polar hound
that's a horrible attitude to have
mystic lily
And if you really want to prepare for them, look up youtube guides, there are plenty through ones
open ember
The only one known to wipe the whole raid is Thunder God IF the raid fails to do Duskblade twice
toxic falcon
Idk what that even means
open ember
Its Ivalice
mystic lily
Duskblade, right that one
zinc orbitBOT
round crag
Even one good dps makes a difference
Remember that the raids are tuned around casual players so
polar hound
you cannot sit here and complain that things take "so long" and then just 'press buttons' and not help things go faster, but that's me
round crag
Even one person performing exceptionally makes a difference
toxic falcon
Ig so
delicate field
Is there a hard version of Ivalice raids?
faint flare
No
remote lintel
no
toxic falcon
Ig no
remote lintel
alliance raids only have 1 difficulty
mystic lily
Once you've got the mechanics down, the ivalican raids are very fun
faint flare
Pre nerf Orbonne
delicate field
Oh orbonne was nerfed? Pretty hard?
mystic lily
Pre-nerf orbonne was miserable
faint flare
Its the ONLY 24man with Echo in it