questions-and-help

[robust crow]

not uncommon to blow anywhere between 1 to 10 more million on just furniture

hiring a designer probably will cost between 3 to 7 more million and they may even charge you for furniture in addition

most people are just gonna use HQ smoked chicken

but the difference between NQ and HQ isn't that big

you could feasibly use NQ for more casual shit like EX

but if you were progging you'd probably want HQ because you want every advantage possible

[hazy shadow]

Oh, I'm dumb. I missed the mq bit

Nq

[robust crow]

if you didn't care about parse on reclears you could probably get away with NQ

but for prog i'd expect everyone to be using HQ and have pots ready in case we try to clear

you never want to be in a situation where you wipe at .1%

which happens more often than you might think

[fair blaze]

Hey so this is a random question but if you were to choose a job that was your favorite what would it be?

[robust crow]

#general-discussion territory

[fair blaze]

oh okay

I just asked in here because it was a question

[robust crow]

idk how everyone else feels but most people generally want the topic to be helping people

[flint kernel]

@robust crow actually my bad , not nice but cute , like this

[robust crow]

well

that's a small house

so at minimum 3ish mil for the plot + building the house cost

then you can shop around the marketboard for all the furniture

or make it yourself

[flint kernel]

is house cost also depend on world ?

[robust crow]

house cost is uniform across every world, the price depends on the location and the plot

and also how long the plot has been for sale

which is usually not very long

because people fight tooth and nail for plots

[flint kernel]

oh okie , im actually more into building house than lvl my char

[robust crow]

you're fucked either way if that's the case

unless you have boatloads of money to spend

[deft plover]

So I tried to send a password recovery email and I have the account confirmation email to prove its associated with a square enix account and no matter how many times I send a pw recovery email it says I don't have a square enix account. I even made a fake account just to test if i changed the email without remembering, and it did the same thing with the account I just made

What do

[flint kernel]

[robust crow]

most housing designers I know either craft their own furniture

or just buy it

my wife is a designer and she loved using verdant partitions

they used to cost between 200-400k each

and she would need 20+ for a design

[flint kernel]

yeah , i saw some cute furniture in mogstastion store

[robust crow]

just to put things in perspective

the furniture in mog station is a tiny fraction of everything that's available ingame

i'm talking about gil, not real money

https://designsbyrae.carrd.co/

here's her site

not trying to shameless plug--just showing you an example

she isn't even taking commissions right now anyway

[flint kernel]

oh , i will add her to see if maybe later on she will take commissions again

also 1 more question if you don't mind , gear set ilv510 considered mid game gear ?

[robust crow]

yeah i'd call that midgame gear

i510 is basically entry level into savage

it's the casual player's standard

[hazy shadow]

If you're looking to get into prog parties, some are ilevel locking to 510, as well.

[flint kernel]

thanks 😊

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[twilit patrol]

hey guys, is it possible to get a 2nd ring of novice ?

[proud willow]

It's tagged as Unique, so it's not possible

if you discard it you can replace it by redoing the final mission, but you can't have 2 of them at once

[vital ruin]

I've a lv 80 smith I can repair lv 80 gear right?

[twilit arch]

gear that can be repaired by a blacksmith, yes

tooltip indicates which crafter can repair that piece of gear

[vital ruin]

I c

What item do I need to repair lv 80 gear

[twilit arch]

grade 7 dark matter

[vital ruin]

Ah thanks :)

[midnight crown]

Any tips for a new player? Just play through the story?

[shrewd owl]

main priority would be running through the main story quests yeah

while also doing job quests as you level up

[midnight crown]

How do I know which ones are the job quests? Just side missions im assuming?

I came over from BDO bc it wasnt for me after 20 hours

p2w like crazy

[shrewd owl]

well you know how you have your main quests listed on the top left of the screen right
job quests will be listed below that

if they're available

[robust crow]

you'll be happy to know ff14 is the total exact opposite of p2w

[midnight crown]

I heard that and notice it so far lmao

its more like POE

pay 4 cosmetic

[robust crow]

only way to get good at ff14

is to invest a lot of time

[midnight crown]

https://gyazo.com/971005a5640930a4f5570bde5be5c5d4

[robust crow]

both into finishing the long story

and also into being decent at your class

[midnight crown]

So job is below that?

[robust crow]

yep

[midnight crown]

ahhh okay thanks!

so play main story until I'm in the location for the job then do both?

[robust crow]

pretty much

[delicate field]

there's 800 main quest stories

[winged oyster]

debating lvling a melee dps job. DRG or NIN?

[midnight crown]

for baes game? I got the complete edition form SquareEnix's site

or 800 with all DLC

[delicate field]

in total, till the end of the main story all dlc

[cursive abyss]

GNB is not a job you can get in ARR areas right?

[shrewd owl]

you just need to own shadowbringers and be level 60

its unlock quest is in gridania

theres no other requirements afaik

[midnight crown]

I spend the 30$ for everything lol

[cursive abyss]

Same with DNC?

[shrewd owl]

ye

[midnight crown]

why spend $20 when i can pay $30

[shrewd owl]

dancers in limsa

[cursive abyss]

@shrewd owl So, you can have access to the Shb jobs as early as... HW endgame, give or take?

[shrewd owl]

ye

thats when i unlocked gnb in fact lol

[cursive abyss]

I'll have to keep that in mind when I make a 2nd character

[robust crow]

considering how long post-ARR is, some of my friends had access to DNC/GNB before even starting HW

[stuck gull]

Question about the F2P event going on.
If I make a new account and decide to buy the complete edition because its on sale, am I able to go back to free to play after the 30 day subscription as long as I am under 60, or am I now locked into a monthly fee?

[silver ruin]

monthly fee if you active the game code

once you activate the game code you cant go back

[stuck gull]

Ok thank you!

[delicate field]

you can buy the game now and play the free trial and use your key once you reach the end of trial

[stuck gull]

Mhmm. True.

[cursive abyss]

Are you going to buy the Complete edition now or when EW comes out?

[silver ruin]

now they said

since its on sale

end walker aint releasing till fall

[cursive abyss]

True, and if they start now, they have just enough time to where they can get to EW just as it's coming out.

[stuck gull]

One more question, specifically about the duty finder.
If I make a party of 4 people and use the duty finder, do we get the exp bonus for doing the roulette?

[silver ruin]

yes

but not the in need bonus

[stuck gull]

Right, that makes sense. ok thanks!

[cursive abyss]

Just a word of advice: Be patient with ff14, and it will reward you greatly.

[untold dirge]

Question. If I hate soloing in the game can I effectively level by just doing the class quests, the main story quest and duty finder and just ignore every side quest?

[delicate field]

you dont have to do any of the yellow quests

[silver ruin]

side quests that dont unlock something are a waste of time

main story quests are how you level

[midnight crown]

is EW included in complete edition or is it like a Borderlands 3 lmao

[cursive abyss]

And blue quests are how you unlock new content apart from MSQ

[silver ruin]

gotta buy it when it comes out

if you buy the complete edition after its released it'll include it

[midnight crown]

Ight

[cursive abyss]

FF14 Expansions are usually like, what, $30-$40?

[silver ruin]

40

[cursive abyss]

That ain't too bad actually

[midnight crown]

how much content is usually in the game

[untold dirge]

Thanks. One final question. Any of you guys know when the sale on the complete edition/expansions end? I see they are on sale but I don't see anything saying when they are on sale till.

[silver ruin]

20h from the base expansion alone

roughly

[silver ruin]

april 1st is what i heard

each expansion + the base game are basically a full game itself in terms of msq alone

20+ hours each

[cursive abyss]

If you do everything that ff14 has to offer, it can range from hundreds to maybe even thousands of hours

[midnight crown]

I mean in each expansion lol

[silver ruin]

20-30h from msq + the msq dungeons and trials alone

assuming you dont skip cutscenes

then stuff gets released later in patches that adds to it

[midnight crown]

ahhh thanks

[cursive abyss]

If you choose to do Eureka in SB postgame, that's like another 30-40 hours

Maybe even 50

[silver ruin]

yea theres hours more in side stuff

[cursive abyss]

You really do get what you pay for in ff14

Its some of the best $13 a month you will ever spend imo

[midnight crown]

$13 a months, thats cheap lmao

cheaper then xbox live or ps plus lmao

[silver ruin]

yea you get a free 30 days of sub after you buy the base game or the complete edition

after that you gotta pay 13-15 (15 for having more than 1 character on the same server)

[midnight crown]

i got the complete edition

[silver ruin]

you can play the trial as long as you want till you enter the code

but theres social restrictions to combat rmt

[midnight crown]

still that is not bad lmao

[silver ruin]

!faq freetrial

[zinc orbit]

Free Trial Limitations

Limitation details
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[midnight crown]

is there a yearly discount for it as well?

[silver ruin]

if you pay in bulk with a credit card theres a slight discount i think?

[midnight crown]

like x$ off or x% off yearly

[silver ruin]

i know if you pay 180 days for the 15 day sub it reduces it to the price of the 13 day sub for that time period

for buying it at once/charging it at once

not sure about the $13 one

you can probably check on the mog station before you pay

[cursive abyss]

Is there any reason why you would want 2 characters on 2 different DCs?

[silver ruin]

not really

yea ok theres no discount for the $13 one

maybe if you wanted to play with friends on a different dc

i know some raiders have alts in the same data center but you can do that on entry subs if you do it on different servers in the dc

[delicate field]

i can't see myself doing MSQ twice

[silver ruin]

can do that on entry tho

also theres ng+ for that

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[fading osprey]

Will the weekly restriction on revelation tomestones be unlocked before next expansion or after?

What was the previous pattern from last few expansions?

[earnest wraith]

From what I have been told by mentor here. We still have limited on revelation tomestones.

[twilit arch]

weekly cap will be raised to 900

[haughty ermine]

Guys i'm relatively new and have gotten some crafters to lvl 50 but understand I need the mastercraft books to continue my journey. The issue is for example one requires Darksteel Ingots which cannot be crafted until you have the books anyway? I understand I can buy it off the board but surely there is another way, the first people to get to lvl 50 had to craft it too right..

[twilit arch]

when 6.0 released, revelations and allegory will be convertable to poetics

[tacit atlas]

There are 2 mastercraft books at level 50

[twilit arch]

you don't really need the mastercraft books, atleast not the 50 ones

[tacit atlas]

To get the first one you do a hard level 50 craft, but to get the second one you do need so make a craft that you can only get from the first book

[twilit arch]

Darksteel ingot doesn't require the master recipe

its a normal lvl 50 craft, its not in the book

[tacit atlas]

Unless I'm misunderstanding the question

[tacit atlas]

Ah, then you should be able to craft it

[twilit arch]

master book 2 is the one that requires an item from master book 1 to exchange for it

[fading osprey]

Is the equivalent of the Ironworks, Shire, and Scaevan gear out yet? I noticed they lasted me 5 levels into the following expansions

[twilit arch]

yes

[tacit atlas]

Yes

[twilit arch]

cryptstalker is this expac's ironwork equivalent

[tacit atlas]

That's cryptlurker

[twilit arch]

er

lurker

i always default to stalker >.<

[fading osprey]

Thanks Andokai and Kaelwryn

Going to farm those tomes then

[haughty ermine]

thanks guys, looked again and it would seem i am an idiot. When i saw insufficient craftsmanship rating i assumed that was that i wasnt 'master' level, now i've worked out i just have bad gear

FML

[twilit arch]

tbh i wouldn't bother with the 50 master recipe books until you're 80

!action Trained Eye

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Increases quality by 100%.

Available only on the first step. Recipe level must be at least 10 levels below yours.

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[twilit arch]

makes them a snap to do

[haughty ermine]

I kinda like it and im gated by waiting for friends to catch up, 😉

something to do

[twilit arch]

well if thats what you want, but like i said. master 1 and 2 aren't required at all. only master book that is required in some form or fashion is 3 for the lvl 60 crafter quests. only thing in 1/2 is some glam stuff but that's really it

[tacit atlas]

Glam is endgame tho

[haughty ermine]

thanks guys!

[rugged flicker]

What exactly is Save the Queen Area of effect?

[silver ruin]

bozja

[rugged flicker]

An why is it worth 500 to 999 Bozjan coins?

[silver ruin]

oh

what

got a screen shot of the item?

[left moth]

Its a haste effect (gcd reduction) for now because they dont want to nerf bozja southern front yet

Its only effective in bsf or dr (and presumably the in last relic zone in 5.54)

[flat yew]

when should you start investing in that melded gear for crafting?

and is there something like a list of materia to put in it?

[slate arrow]

if you don't plan on raiding but want to maximize DPS in your crafted set, find the meld priority on the balance

[silver ruin]

not sure if im reading that wrong or ^ is reading that wrong, but the balance has crafter melds

and crafted gear melds for exarchic

[slate arrow]

.... I swear I can read

anyways you invest whenever you want to, really.

But since you need HQ precrafts for current tier crafted stuff, it's really a give or take.

Do you just make do with the white scrip stuff? Or do you go and max out melds so you only need 2-3 HQ materials.

[slate arrow]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTnXbCjEBvNCX5u9fno-hdIL0C0ciC3nMChB2DhaWTd-v_uc5UH0TC5W9Ytgy7rWeAeIk_PPlOMSmiA/pubhtml

Here's the meld sets, go for whichever one you can afford or grind for.

[modest igloo]

I read it the same way tbh

[flat yew]

oh is this for crafted dps gear?

[slate arrow]

No, this is for Crafted.

Crafter

Whatever

[flat yew]

I meant melded gear for crafting, I thought that was the next step up from handsaint

oh

okie

[silver ruin]

it is

[flat yew]

when should one start working towards them?

[silver ruin]

pick a set from the doc industrial linked and start grinding/buying materia for it

[slate arrow]

Whenever. White Scrip will last you through 6.0 leveling so it's only if you want to, really.

[silver ruin]

^ that being said if your goal is to craft current raid stuff

[flat yew]

is 6.0 ShB?

[silver ruin]

handsaint SUCKS for that

[slate arrow]

6.0 is Endwalker

[silver ruin]

6.0 is EW

[flat yew]

oh

I mean I wouldn't mind preparing for raid stuff

and I was hoping to make some coin out of it too as a CUL

[silver ruin]

pick any of the sets from the doc industrial linked then

any work fine for crafting the raid stuff/exarchic stuff

[flat yew]

unless coffee biscuits are the only profitable thing

[silver ruin]

but handsaint needs spec + food +syrup to even start the craft for current raid stuff

nah you can make some money off raid food

and pots

[flat yew]

ah, just noticed that the aesthete set is made from crafters themselves

guess I have to level my other stuff too first

at least I have some capital to kickstart that

[silver ruin]

yea, otherwise its probably sub 2m for the set (not sure about the offhand tool price)

[wild coyote]

Did I mess up and level too far past the story 😅

• I hit level 21 and finally got to the story quest to unlock the blimp thing to fly to another city....

But now I looking at YouTube videos of what unlocks from 1 - 20 and I’m missing a lot lol 😂

[silver ruin]

nah, doesnt really matter honestly, if you get too far passed it you can level a second class and do msq with both

if you're on a preferred world you're gonna need to juggle like 3 jobs so you dont overlevel a ton

[flat yew]

hrm... not sure if it is worth investing in my crafters to make the aesthete pieces myself or buying them off the mp directly

yeah puppers, don't do it like me. I basically wasted the XP for my last 15 or so quests because I only leveled scholar

[silver ruin]

honestly depends if you plan on making other stuff from other crafters or wanna be able to repair mid instance

if you jsut want like cul/alch, then i would just buy it

[flat yew]

hrm

I don't mind doing the other ones too

[little swift]

not really such things as wasted exp

[wild coyote]

WoW Refugee so I’m stuck with that habit of doing every quest I see 😅

[little swift]

since exp isn't a finite resource

[flat yew]

well, the MSQ is a good source of easy xp

[silver ruin]

unless its a blue quest/quest with a + by it, or a msq, or a class quest

[little swift]

it is but its not the only good source of exp

[silver ruin]

its a waste of time and only for lore

[flat yew]

sometimes you get a million for just talking to a few NPCs

[little swift]

so don't worried about "wasting" exp

[wild coyote]

So I can continue just being higher level and it will just continue to level sync me as needed right? The quests won’t go away and I miss something.

[little swift]

no

just play its fine

being overleveled isn't a bad thing

[wispy peak]

what does the flower next to someones name mean?

[little swift]

means they are a returner

[shrewd owl]

returner

[little swift]

as in they haven't played for a while and have decided to come back to that character

[wild coyote]

Oks 😅
I’m laughing at how much of a noob I feel in this game. But also love it lol

Watched a 20 min beginner guide video on crafting. My brain melted in confusion 🤣

[flat yew]

finished ShB earlier this week myself (took about a month so I don't really have that much experience tho) and the only "problem" I had with being overleveled is the weird downtime with leveling during post-expansion quest lines. e.g. the post-ARR stuff gluing it together with HW kept me at the same level

which kinda made it feel very... slow

dw about crafting. You can extensively use the Macro system once it starts to matter what abilities you use to take that load off of you

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[signal aspen]

what he should be worrying about is unlocking the Golden Saucer

😉

[little swift]

[mental oracle]

which boss took the longest for first kill?

[twilit arch]

i assume you mean in general?

[wispy peak]

whats the purpose of a windup ship?

[silver ruin]

the minion?

[wispy peak]

yeah

[twilit arch]

just a cute little companion

there is a mini game at the gold saucer that uses minions,

but for the most part, minions are just there to look cute and follow you

[wispy peak]

ah ok, thanks

do I really have to wait for a full team to enter a dungeon

seems like an awfully big wait

[fading helm]

why are all the clothes i end up getting from quests in the color red

[warped nest]

Dungeons are designed for a team of 1 tank, 1 healer, and 2 DPS

You will die going in alone unless you massively out level it and went it without level sync

[wispy peak]

yeah I need to wait for duty finder for a quest

but no one seems to be on rn

[warped nest]

Which quest

[wispy peak]

Duty Finder -Satasha

from "its probably pirates"

[warped nest]

Just be patient

DPS usually have longer queue

[wispy peak]

aight

[warped nest]

Anywhere from 10-20 minutes

[vital ruin]

It says firmament restoration complete. What does it mean

[rigid narwhal]

it means the firmament is complete

nah the firmament was a crafting project, basically

[vital ruin]

Ya but what should I do

Do I get any reward

[rigid narwhal]

no, it's complete

[vital ruin]

Sooo

Do I get anything?

[rigid narwhal]

it was building a new housing area

nope

you get nothing, as you didnt participate in it

[twilit arch]

you can still turn in stuff

and do the quests that are available

[vital ruin]

But I submitted so many stuff

[twilit arch]

firmament complete just means that the zone isn't going to change anymore

nothing else

[vital ruin]

Ohh

When do you get firmament related title

[twilit arch]

when you either earn 500k skyward points for that crafter/gatherer or turn in 100 expert recipes for phase 2/3/4

[vital ruin]

Oof

I'll go for other titles

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[fading helm]

how do u go to peoples house

[deep gyro]

you click on enter at the door

[flat yew]

does any kind of gear increase the chance of melding?

[silver ruin]

no

[flat yew]

that's relieving

how does one read this? I assume the first two are for the regular melding spots but does the order on the other three matter?

[robust crow]

yes, the order matters

the 2 guaranteed slots need to be tier 8

[flat yew]

do I do it in the order from top to bottom?

[robust crow]

the next slot after the guaranteed can also be tier 8

then all remaining slots are tier 7

the two don't matter in order

[twilit arch]

well no

[robust crow]

if there's only 1 guaranteed slot (like with accessories) then the last 3 don't matter

[slate arrow]

Rena hold up

[twilit arch]

it kind of does matter, because the lower slots are going to have lower meld chances

plus that is not all 7s for the 3 non assured slots

that's 1 6, 1 7 and 1 4

[slate arrow]

The way melding works is that you can only use tier 8s and tier 6s on the first slot past the green guaranteed slots

[flat yew]

so do I do it from top to bottom or in another order?

[robust crow]

just do it from top to bottom if you don't know

[slate arrow]

That's the recommended order

[flat yew]

okie

[slate arrow]

As certain materia get more pricy

[robust crow]

basically all guaranteed slots + 1 need to be highest tier

all remaining slots can be lower tier

[slate arrow]

For instance, you'll go through on average 20 materia for the 4th slot

So if you want to save some gil, you could go for a cheaper materia

[flat yew]

is it possible to remove the materia from that slot later to meld in a better one down the line?

[robust crow]

you have to remove them from bottom up

you can't do it in any other order

[twilit arch]

yes but it removes from bottom up

[flat yew]

ah damn

[slate arrow]

You have to remove the 5th and then the 4th

[flat yew]

hrm

[slate arrow]

It's better to get it at the beginning then slot in a bad materia

It's why melding is so expensive

[flat yew]

at least I can get some of this materia through scrips

[robust crow]

and yeah i forgot 5th slot has lowest meld chance

so use your cheapest materia on 5th slot

[loud flicker]

when do i have to get a subscription? also whats the point of buying the game

[slate arrow]

To be able to buy a subscription and redeem the expansions

[loud flicker]

ah i see

[slate arrow]

Also to remove your restrictions

[deep gyro]

you get to play the whole game instead of testing a small portion

[slate arrow]

Like the inability to form a party and whatnot

[loud flicker]

ah i see

when do i have to get the subscription?

is it a certian level?

[slate arrow]

Whenever, but 30 days after you redeem any version that includes Starter Edition

You cannot return to the free trial once you have done so

[loud flicker]

where should i buy the game from?

i cant find anything on the launcher

this whole thing is very confusing

also does the complete edition come with all the expansions?

[slate arrow]

Yes.

You don't buy the game in-game or via the launcher.

[loud flicker]

ah alright

[slate arrow]

You manage your subscription and account via Mogstation.

[loud flicker]

thank you for your help, i know nothing about this

[slate arrow]

Also do note that Starter + Shadowbringers is the same as the Complete Edition.

[loud flicker]

alright

[slate arrow]

And that if you're using the Steam Free Trial, you must purchase it on steam.

[loud flicker]

alright, im using the launcher so i'll be fine

[lethal mist]

What's the Veteran Reward thing?

[slate arrow]

If you're buying standalone, you can purchase it off the SE Store, on Mogstation, or from one of the various third party sellers.

[slate arrow]

Basically just how many days of subscription you've paid for.

It's just cosmetics.

[lethal mist]

Ah I see

[slate arrow]

Namely, Squall's outfit and Cloud's Advent Children outfit are on that list

[lethal mist]

What number is the highest "reward" so to speak?

[slate arrow]

300, I believe? One second.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/option_service/veteran_rewards/

330 gets you Squall's outfit.

[leaden ginkgo]

What kinds of useful things can you do with macros? Besides choosing whether to cast an AoE like salted earth on yourself or an enemy, or macros that make it easier to use targeted abilities like dragon sight

[silver ruin]

crafting uses macros

[wispy peak]

when can you get a mount?

[lethal mist]

Thanks a lot mate!

[slate arrow]

!faq mount

[silver ruin]

!faq mount

[zinc orbit]

Mounts FAQ

'When can I get my first mount?'

The quest that allows you to use mounts, 'My Little Chocobo' is unlocked by completing the level 20 main story quest 'The Company You Keep'. The quest is located at the Grand Company base you chose and you'll need to buy the Chocobo Issuance from your Grand Company Quartermaster. You can get the 200 needed Grand Company seals by doing the main story quest that comes after 'The Company You Keep'.

'Are there any differences between mounts?'

Besides looks, all mounts are the same speed along with being able to fly. Some mounts allow multiple people to ride at once.

'Can I make my mount faster?'

Zones have one or two ranks of mount speed that increase the ground speed of mounts. The first rank comes from completing specific quests in the main scenario quests, with the second rank coming from Riding Maps which are bought with either Allied Seals, Centurio Seals, or Bicolor Gemstones. Mount Speed Boosts do not increase the flying speed of mounts.

[slate arrow]

Mainly help with targeting actions, but as a whole besides some specific circumstances they're not recommended. They're a blessing when it comes to mass crafting though

[harsh torrent]

Dum question

I got 2 accounts

And the one set as active is the newbie one

How to revert it back to my lvl 55 one

[slate arrow]

What do you mean by two accounts

[harsh torrent]

Sry

2 characters

This is purely for the bot command thing

Like the ?whoami

[slate arrow]

I'm not very good at using Kupo, still. Sorry!

[harsh torrent]

Is fine

Its a lodestone thing I think

[twilit arch]

you just do !iam server firstname lastname to change

though ?commands are aymeric bot

so not sure if its the same deal

[harsh torrent]

Yeah its from another server

[loud flicker]

what are the prerequisites to accept the, "So you want to be a ---...." quests?

[slate arrow]

Level 10 class quest, as far as I know.

[silver ruin]

^

[loud flicker]

weird, i finished that and i wasnt able to do it

ill try again

[silver ruin]

sb/shb jobs require having that expansion and having a character at 50/60 respectively

is the quest red or

[harsh torrent]

I got up to SHB, can I get RDM at level 50

[silver ruin]

yes

rdm is a stormblood job

[harsh torrent]

Like I dont need to reach the expansion areas

[silver ruin]

its in one of the starting areas

[slate arrow]

You do not, that is correct.

[harsh torrent]

Im still in 2.0

Cool

[slate arrow]

Just go to the market in Uldah and it'll be a blue quest to the south.

[twilit arch]

the only expansion jobs that require you to be in an expansion zone to unlock are the heavensward jobs

all others are place in the one of the three starting cities

[harsh torrent]

Ill just have to think about whether an Aura can look cool fencing or not now

[zinc orbit]

Automated Message: A Friendly Moogle Reminder

This channel is for new or returning players to ask questions and discuss Final Fantasy XIV. As a reminder this channel is a troll free and an off-topic free zone. For general discussion please use #general-discussion. <@&473626701947994134> are available to help in this channel. Thank-You, Kupo!

[peak flax]

Anyone can help technical questions? My friends living in Malaysia and Singapore. Then the bought the US game. They ask address for US. What should they do?

[slate arrow]

Firstly, what region is their SE account assigned to?

There's a chance they'll have to buy the EU code instead.

(it's EU and other Regions)

[twilit arch]

most malaysian players, afaik, use a fake address since malaysia (and singapore iirc) aren't supported regions

[peak flax]

Their account is US

[thin berry]

Can 2 people playing free trial party together?

[slate arrow]

Indirectly, yes.

[twilit arch]

you need someone else to invite you to the party

[slate arrow]

You need someone to form the party for you

[peak flax]

they still at level 8 and since i dont mind giving them my address (im living in UK) . Can I get their game return back and change to EU region by customer support? Or buy new game and make new account and characters?

[harsh torrent]

when in gamepad mode

[thin berry]

ah ok ty

[harsh torrent]

I want to change text channels

via mouse

[silver ruin]

latter, just have them use a fake address

[harsh torrent]

but it wont let me

[flat yew]

aesthete crafting gear can be used on every crafter so I only need one set, right?

[silver ruin]

that way they dont waste money buying the game again

[peak flax]

Ahhh okay. Use fake address

[silver ruin]

yup

[left moth]

just have the fake address somewhere in case need to contact support

[silver ruin]

offhands/main hands are seperate of course

[flat yew]

awesome, this is much cheaper than I expected. finished about 3 and a half pieces on a 1m budget

[peak flax]

Btw where should they put the address? In shipping?

[silver ruin]

@twilit arch got an answer to this?

i dont remember exactly

[twilit arch]

yeah, iirc. i mean if they're buying digitally then the address in the shipping section is pretty whatever

[peak flax]

Ahhh okay thanks a lot guys!!

[flat yew]

Is there a way to see gear stats combined with the materia?

or do I have to sum it up in my head?

[honest anvil]

dont the gear stats pop-up update that? @@

[slate arrow]

They show up on your stats page assuming you have it equipped

[devout lichen]

are silver chocobo feathers only used to buy stuff from calamity salvager?

[twilit arch]

yes

[knotty spindle]

Hi guys, do you suggest boosting my character from 1 to 70 and experiencing the rest of the story that way?

[robust crow]

no

[knotty spindle]

Why not?

[robust crow]

how far into story are you anyway?

[knotty spindle]

I finished Heavensward and got into Stormblood. I got to 60-61 with my Paladin

But I want to try some other class

I'm not arsed to level them again

That's why I'm asking

[robust crow]

you can probably already tell you are going to be significantly overleveled

if you want to level boost something to 70 to do stormblood

you're probably going to be 80 before shadowbringers

[knotty spindle]

Hrm

[robust crow]

but honestly at that point it's whatever

[knotty spindle]

Don't most things level-sync?

[silver ruin]

also if you buy a jump skip, please read class guides and practice your rotation

yes

but you still get exp

so you'll be over levelled

[knotty spindle]

So it doesn't really matter?

[robust crow]

once you hit 80 you'd be forfeiting all the MSQ exp

that you would have gotten

[agile laurel]

i feel you may also not be incredibly aware of ways to level alt jobs anyway?

[knotty spindle]

POTD?

[agile laurel]

bit more than that.

[knotty spindle]

I tried that but I got really bored of running it

[agile laurel]

!faq altlevelguide

[zinc orbit]

Leveling Guide for Alt jobs 🍻

Level 1 to 70 in five days (Stormblood)

[robust crow]

just do MSQ on your favorite class and run roulettes on your alts

lmao

[agile laurel]

not saying you're wrong but make an informed decision

[leaden ginkgo]

why are dps jobs extremely complicated

[robust crow]

have you been completely ignoring leveling roulette

leveling roulette every day is a significant source of exp

[leaden ginkgo]

Could someone give me a list of the easiest jobs per role

[agile laurel]

would you rather them be incredibly simple? the challenge in playing dps is doing more dps

[knotty spindle]

Not really? but it barely levels me one level?

[silver ruin]

tanks have some stuff like that too, not as complicated but they gotta juggle cooldowns as well

dnc/rdm probably for dps, whm for healer

[robust crow]

nearly one level for like 15 minutes of effort

[silver ruin]

i have no idea about tank

[robust crow]

once per day

[agile laurel]

try something like dnc or rdm, colossally lower skill floor

[knotty spindle]

That would take me a long time to get to 60 though

[silver ruin]

but high skill ceiling (all classes have high skill ceilings for high end optimization)

[agile laurel]

and also pretty low skill ceiling for dnc, tbh.

[knotty spindle]

I wish there was a level 60 boost instead of 70

[leaden ginkgo]

I used to main DRG back in heavensward but I see that after I quit for a few years and came back they made the class too complicated, so I need a new main

[robust crow]

well the idea is that you would have been doing dailies every day up until now

it sounds like you've been completely ignoring them for a long time

[knotty spindle]

dailies?

[robust crow]

even just running only leveling roulette once per day, you'd have more than enough exp to keep up 2 or 3 classes with MSQ

that's on you bud

[shrewd owl]

never played old drg but i find dragoon very easy considering how static its rotation is

[agile laurel]

drg isn't amazingly more complicated past HW, it's just the life of the dragon gimmick tacked on the end. i wouldn't say ditch it based solely off that

[robust crow]

and if you beat HW you'd have access to wondrous tails every week too

[leaden ginkgo]

I have spent the past 4 days on a training dummy trying to do the optimal DRG rotation and I haven't succeeded once

[knotty spindle]

Hey, I'm not here to be guilted. I only asked for recommendations on boosting, jeez

[shrewd owl]

level 80?

[knotty spindle]

I'm sorry that I'm not playing the game like you think I should

[agile laurel]

define optimal? use the 2 5-button combos alternately, wait for sight/charge/litany to be up before entering life of the dragon, done

[honest anvil]

nobody is shaming you or anything like that

[robust crow]

nobody's guilting you

[silver ruin]

we're just saying, if you buy a skip: read guides on how to play the class

[agile laurel]

nobody's saying that, they're just concerned you haven't actually considered the alternative to throwing money at the screen

[robust crow]

but you've been literally ignoring a huge portion of exp every day

[silver ruin]

or you're gonna piss people off

[honest anvil]

those are like, standard suggestions

[knotty spindle]

You said it's "on you bud"

[robust crow]

yes

because it is

you skipped basically 1-2 free levels on any class every day

and now you're asking to buy a boost

[knotty spindle]

Of course I'm not going to skip guides or not learn my class

What's the point in that

I also don't want to skip the story either

[robust crow]

the point i'm trying to make

take 10 minutes to run leveling roulette every day

and you wouldn't need a boost

[knotty spindle]

Just that?

[robust crow]

if you'd been doing that since starting the game

you'd probably have two to three level 60s

[shrewd owl]

gotta keep in mind the armoury bonus exists too

[robust crow]

by now

[knotty spindle]

Armory bonus?

[honest anvil]

ye, the way to learn any class is to play that class ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shrewd owl]

!faq armorybonus

[zinc orbit]

Error!

No tag named armorybonus exists, Kupo!

[shrewd owl]

fuck

[silver ruin]

!faq armourybonus

[zinc orbit]

Armoury EXP bonus FAQ

'How do I get the bonus experience from the Armoury?'

As long as you're playing a Disciple of War or a Disciple of Magic class that's a lower level than your highest level class then you're able to benefit from the bonus experience. You do not need to have a class at level 80 for the bonus to be active.

'How much is the bonus experience?'

You get +100% experience from levels 1 to 69, which then reduces to +50% for level 70 to 79. The difference in level between your current class and highest class does not change the amount of experience you get.

[leaden ginkgo]

optimal being needing to weave in way too many off gcds inbetween everything while making sure that the dragon meter doesn't run out

and I can't do it

[knotty spindle]

Right, I know about that

You get extra xp

[shrewd owl]

you have two attacks that extend the duration

[agile laurel]

the dragon meter does not run out if you do the 5-button combos

[shrewd owl]

!skill wheeling thrust

[zinc orbit]

**Wheeling Thrust** : lvl 58 DRG (2.5 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 330.
370 when executed from a target's rear.
Can only be executed while under the effects of Enhanced Wheeling Thrust and either Blood of the Dragon or Life of the Dragon .
Additional Effect: Extends Blood of the Dragon duration by 10s to a maximum of 30s

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[agile laurel]

i.e. press the glowy button

[shrewd owl]

!skill fang and claw

[zinc orbit]

**Fang and Claw** : lvl 56 DRG (2.5 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 330.
370 when executed from a target's flank.
Can only be executed while under the effects of Sharper Fang and Claw and either Blood of the Dragon or Life of the Dragon .
Additional Effect: Extends Blood of the Dragon duration by 10s to a maximum of 30s

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[leaden ginkgo]

I did that and it still ran out

[knotty spindle]

Also, are the class quests interesting (story-wise) or nah?

[agile laurel]

if that is an issue, i'd recommend learning your combos before then

because it sounds like that is problem #1

[shrewd owl]

depends which job

[knotty spindle]

Paladin for example?

[silver ruin]

can be

[shrewd owl]

that is a very strange issue

[agile laurel]

varying. most people would agree pld and whm suck ass, while sam and drk have some of the best in any game

[knotty spindle]

I did all of them

Up to 60

But it's not amazing

[leaden ginkgo]

But I'm doing exactly what the guide is telling me to do and it's not working, and it feels too hard to do because I need so many buttons and hotkeys

[shrewd owl]

paladin job quests are like the most hated from what ive seen

[silver ruin]

you wont get around needing more hot keys honestly

[agile laurel]

what level ARE you?

[shrewd owl]

dark knight on the other hand...

[silver ruin]

at a minimum jobs have 24? keys at level 80

[knotty spindle]

How about Ninja?

[silver ruin]

dance has some less buttons

probably the least amount from a dps from what i know

[shrewd owl]

ninja quests from 30-50 were eh imo but the rogue quests are pretty cute

[silver ruin]

you still have to weave stuff to some extent though

you wont be able to get around weaving

[knotty spindle]

I did the rogue quests

[silver ruin]

besides black mage, mostly

[knotty spindle]

Also the Ninja level 30 quest

[glossy flare]

Ninja job quests are okay-ish

nothing to write home about

[shrewd owl]

as dragoon i find myself not attempting to double weave jumps

i usually double weave stuff like buffs or mirage dive

[knotty spindle]

Okay, another question then. Is it easy to play Ninja?

I heard it's very hard

Or complex

[shrewd owl]

its mostly just

memorising mudra patterns

[glossy flare]

It's not that complex tbh

Just fast

[knotty spindle]

Do they have lower GCD?

[shrewd owl]

ninjas?

yeah

[leaden ginkgo]

is there an easier way to do this, maybe with like macros or something? there's too many abilities and weaving them all is too hard for me because I can't memorize all these things in the right order while finding out a comfortable keybind setup

[silver ruin]

ninja has a lot of weaving

[silver ruin]

nope

[glossy flare]

Yes, they have a buff they keep up which reduces their gcds

[agile laurel]

no, do not macro GCDs

[silver ruin]

!faq macro

[zinc orbit]

FAQ Listing

astmacros
dsmacro
macrogcd
macros
pldmacros
pullmacro
saltedmacro
schmacro
shirkmacro
sprintmacro

Page 1 of 2

[silver ruin]

!faq gcdmacro

[zinc orbit]

Error!

No tag named gcdmacro exists, Kupo!

[knotty spindle]

I see

[agile laurel]

!faq macrogcd

[zinc orbit]

Why you shouldn't macro your GCDs

Macroing GCDs adds up to lost casts overtime, significantly harming your potential.

Check this video for a striking dummy comparison:
https://youtu.be/VgpUCgExvbA

[glossy flare]

and they havea burst phase that is basically "press all the buttons"

[silver ruin]

thank you

[robust crow]

umbra

i'm gonna tell you now

dragoon is one of the easier classes

[knotty spindle]

And Paladins at 80, are they hard compared to other tanks?

[robust crow]

if that's too hard for you then seriously consider DNC/RDM

[glossy flare]

Nah

[silver ruin]

i have been told paladin is brain dead

[shrewd owl]

paladins are my least favourite tank but theyre not necessarily hard

[silver ruin]

along with war

[robust crow]

dragoon is literally just the same 10 buttons for the whole fight

[glossy flare]

PLD has a very static and simple rotation

[shrewd owl]

they basically just shift between a magic and physical phase

[robust crow]

and you sprinkle some other buttons in-between

[knotty spindle]

@shrewd owl Why your least favorite?

[agile laurel]

if you're reading from this, I suggest not going straight to 'best level 80 rotation' and wondering why you can't do it, I'd instead suggest going through every part and checking you understand the concepts, because it sounds like you don't https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ua5uewclVNvIaVJ44eX3F3-y3QLKcn2z8R8d9Vvj5B0/edit

[leaden ginkgo]

how? i used to be good at dragoon back in heavensward's savage raids and now it's too complicated, they added so much to it

[shrewd owl]

i really dont know just the way it feels feels off to me

[glossy flare]

but tbh all the tanks are pretty simple in terms of rotations

[robust crow]

i just explained it lol

[knotty spindle]

How about Gunbreaker?

[shrewd owl]

and with the way i bind confiteor i keep forgetting to use it

[robust crow]

dragoon is literally the same 10 buttons

[glossy flare]

Gunbreaker is faster than the other tanks

[agile laurel]

from what you're saying it sounds like you can't do what drg has at 60 even

[glossy flare]

More weaving

[robust crow]

for the whole fight

[leaden ginkgo]

wdym 10 buttons

it's more than that

[robust crow]

dragoon has two 5-part combos

[shrewd owl]

we still dont know what level umbra is in

[robust crow]

you do combo 1

then you do combo 2

[glossy flare]

I wouldn't call GNB difficult though, just plays a bit like a melee dps

[robust crow]

repeat for the entire fight

[knotty spindle]

More so than Warrior?

[robust crow]

after you understand the 10 buttons

[glossy flare]

Yeah, more so

[robust crow]

then you start sprinkling your other ogcds between them

[agile laurel]

if you can't weave jumps and can't keep the gauge up then it seems to me you're having critical issues with the kit drg has AT 60

[glossy flare]

Warrior really is the most braindead tank where it is the hardest to die imho

[silver ruin]

yea gnb is like, the defacto dps tank

[agile laurel]

which suggests to me you should review the core concepts rather than jumping right to level 80 optimal

[knotty spindle]

Alright, last class question. Is SAM hard to play at 80?

[silver ruin]

plays the most like a dps

[leaden ginkgo]

But I was able to play DRG well pre-stormblood

[robust crow]

by the time dragoon hits 64 it's got its full 10 buttons

bruh it doesn't matter how well you played dragoon pre-whatever

it matters how well you can play dragoon now

[agile laurel]

hard to learn easy to do. the challenge is uptime monkey

[glossy flare]

SAM is all about being fast 😄

[shrewd owl]

ye

and doing big dick damage

[knotty spindle]

Same as Ninja?

[glossy flare]

It's not hard but there definitely is a high ceiling

In a different way

[agile laurel]

ninja has a bit more variability and micromanagement than sam

[glossy flare]

Ninja is more "be fast in this phase that comes around once in a while"

[agile laurel]

which is to say, sam has barely any of it

[glossy flare]

SAM is just... "be fast buddy"

[shrewd owl]

what cypher said

[knotty spindle]

Are SAM positional too?

Or position doesn't matter?

[shrewd owl]

sam kinda just does big damage all the time while nin compresses it into one phase

[leaden ginkgo]

what roles are the easiest to play

[shrewd owl]

they have positionals

[glossy flare]

They only have 2 positionals

[leaden ginkgo]

because so far it feels like dps is too hard

[glossy flare]

Which do matter, not hitting those is a dps loss

but it's not the end of the world

[silver ruin]

all melees have positions

[leaden ginkgo]

should i just play a tank instead

[toxic glen]

I mean you can just play DRG sub optimally till max lvl anyway, maybe things will click or just change to something simpler

[knotty spindle]

I see

Thank you for the info guys

[silver ruin]

https://i.imgur.com/N52Dliz.png

[glossy flare]

NIN has 2 positionals 2 btw

[silver ruin]

sam 80 rotation

[knotty spindle]

They do too?

[shrewd owl]

ye

[glossy flare]

err, 3 actually

[knotty spindle]

I'm honestly torn between SAM and Ninja

[shrewd owl]

every melee dps has positionals

[silver ruin]

monk/dragoon/sam all have postionals

[glossy flare]

Yeah, all melee dps have positionals it's like one of their role features

[silver ruin]

and ninja

[shrewd owl]

theyre easy yeah but im still struggling to see what your problem with dragoon is

[knotty spindle]

I think maybe Ninja fits me better, but we will see

[leaden ginkgo]

My problem is that the game expects me to perform a string of 21 specific keystrokes in the proper order

[glossy flare]

NIN is definitely fun once you have the Mudra combinations down

Which is honestly not that difficult

[robust crow]

umbra

it isn't that hard

just go to a target dummy and smack it for 30 minutes

at some point it will click

if it never clicks then try another class

[shrewd owl]

dragoon at its most basic level is basically
disembowel combo -> vorpal thrust combo

repeat

[leaden ginkgo]

the reason I got into ffxiv in the first place was because it was simpler than other MMOs like WoW

but now I can't wrap my head around my favorite class

[robust crow]

except in the nitty-gritty it really isn't

it's only simpler than wow in the very beginning

[agile laurel]

answer isn't ditch it, then

[shrewd owl]

press jumps every once in a while when they go off cooldown

[agile laurel]

if you want to learn it, learn it

[knotty spindle]

Well, It isn't simpler anymore, right?

It doesn't look like it to me at least

[shrewd owl]

that is dragoon

[glossy flare]

It definitely starts slower than other MMOs

[glossy flare]

but in the end it's just as "complex"

[silver ruin]

off salted xiv

[glossy flare]

if you wanna call it that

[robust crow]

i think your issue right now is that, instead of attempting to understand the dragoon rotation, you're just memorizing what buttons to press in what order

you aren't meant to do that

[knotty spindle]

Yeah, the first 1-60 is very simple

[robust crow]

just read your skills and understand why the rotation uses them at what point

[knotty spindle]

Dunno after that

[leaden ginkgo]

yeah but I spent $40 in total on a server transfer, name change, and 30 days of play time on a game that feels unplayable because I literally lost to a fucking training dummy

[jade quartz]

Jobs in FFXIV are much, much more complicated than in WoW

[agile laurel]

this applies

please try to actually learn how the job works

[jade quartz]

Practice and develop muscle memory, and don’t be daunted.

[robust crow]

i think it will help if someone explains to you the dragoon rotation and why it works

[jade quartz]

Dragoon is actually very straightforward.

[leaden ginkgo]

muscle memory has limits though

[agile laurel]

simply attempting to memorise what buttons to press in what order is doomed for failure

[glossy flare]

What Lyon says, it's all just practice

[robust crow]

umbra do you want me to just DM you how 2 play dragoon

lol

[leaden ginkgo]

but how am I supposed to play a class if I can't play it optimally

[robust crow]

stop trying to just memorize the buttons

and start trying to understand what the buttons do

[jade quartz]

You will be able to learn to play it optimally.

[knotty spindle]

@leaden ginkgo Keep at it and keep practicing. It can be difficult at the start, but you'll get the hang of it. Don't give up because it's a bit daunting.

[jade quartz]

You are overestimating the difficulty.

[leaden ginkgo]

But WHY do there have to be so many buttons

[jade quartz]

Your muscle memory will be sufficient.

[robust crow]

that's my point

[knotty spindle]

I'm glad there's a lot of buttons

[jade quartz]

So that it’s fun to play.

[toxic glen]

I would suggest doing low end dungeons again, that way you can learn DRG again from the ground up instead of trying to comprehend everything at once

[robust crow]

i'm willing to explain to you why there are so many buttons

[knotty spindle]

It makes it more fun

[glossy flare]

Because frankly, people find pressing that amount of buttons fun to play with

[robust crow]

you're just too busy complaining instead of listening

[jade quartz]

You’re psyching yourself out.

[knotty spindle]

I like pressing a lot of abilities. It makes the class less static

[silver ruin]

lower the amount of buttons on gnb/war so i can actually play it, i dont have that many hotbar slots and keybinds LMAO

[jade quartz]

Just take your time and learn.

[silver ruin]

like, 29 is my limit

[oak ice]

Because the game is reaching 8 years and 4 expansions, it would be boring to only have a 1-2-3 combo

[silver ruin]

^

[leaden ginkgo]

Maybe I am, considering I wasted the past few days on a training dummy failing for hours

[knotty spindle]

Yeah, I'll tell you this

[robust crow]

what exactly are you failing at

[knotty spindle]

When I leveled Paladin from 1-50 It was braindead

But it got more abilities when I get to 60

[leaden ginkgo]

I can't even get HALF of my rotation done without failure

[jade quartz]

First simply learn the GCD rotation.

[robust crow]

instead of just complaining, can we start talking about what you're fucking up on lmao

what are you messing up

specifically

[jade quartz]

Order your hotbars so that they’re logical.

[knotty spindle]

You can watch youtube guides too

[silver ruin]

^ weskalber

[knotty spindle]

On your class

[silver ruin]

is the only one id recommend

[shrewd owl]

thats valid too

[leaden ginkgo]

I keep running out of the dragon gauge, I keep stumbling or misclicking and failing

[jade quartz]

12345 shift1 shift2 shift3 shift4 shift5

[robust crow]

then your key problem is you aren't doing your two combos right

[jade quartz]

That’s the rotation

[leaden ginkgo]

There's just so many things to press too and it's hard for me to make good keybinds that work for me

[shrewd owl]

could we get a pic of your hotbars in any case?

[jade quartz]

So focus on your gcds first

[robust crow]

just go to the training dummy and ignore every button except your main 10 buttons

[shrewd owl]

im just curious at this point

[robust crow]

get that part right

you will never drop dragon gauge if you can do your two combos

[knotty spindle]

If pressing a lot buttons is an issue for you Umbra, maybe mmos aren't for you? Maybe MMOs like GuildWars 2 and ESO are more for you.

[leaden ginkgo]

I have been moving skills around so much that I don't even know what to do at this point

[knotty spindle]

FFXIV will always have more buttons to press

This will not change later

You have to get used to it

[robust crow]

start off by not moving skills so much

just get used to your 10 button combo

[leaden ginkgo]

are you saying when endwalker comes out THERE WILL BE EVEN MORE BUTTONS

[robust crow]

get those 10 buttons down

[jade quartz]

By the way, question: did you boost?

[shrewd owl]

i mean they trim some stuff out afaik

[knotty spindle]

Me?

[leaden ginkgo]

no I didn't boost I'm only 63

[shrewd owl]

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[shrewd owl]

huh

[silver ruin]

they might get rid of some skills or condense some things but theres probably gonna be a similar amount

[jade quartz]

No, other buttons will be trimmed. Overall number of actions will remain similar.

[robust crow]

there are way too many cooks in the kitchen

i'm dipping out lol y'all got it

[knotty spindle]

Yes

[shrewd owl]

no not really

[jade quartz]

No

[knotty spindle]

I mean I'm sure there will be a few new abilities

[jade quartz]

Ownsin that’s not helping

[jade quartz]

.

[robust crow]

FYI dragoon rotation isn't "complete" until 64

it's a waste of your time to attempt to practice it without being 64

[knotty spindle]

Alright, perhaps I was wrong then.

[robust crow]

because 64 is when your wheeling thrust/fang and claw combo into each other

[jade quartz]

This is true

[robust crow]

that's when you learn the trait that lets this happen

[knotty spindle]

Still, this game has a lot of buttons to press and he needs to get used to it but practicing. It's the only way

[jade quartz]

That completes the core of dragoon

[robust crow]

until then you're fucked out of your actual rotation

[jade quartz]

And will make maintaining gauge simpler

[robust crow]

sqex doesn't design classes around being level 50 or 60 anymore

[leaden ginkgo]

so are you saying i should just push buttons until i level up more and then try to figure things out

[robust crow]

which means a lot of classes feel incomplete well into their 60s or 70s

[silver ruin]

do that

[robust crow]

see: black mage and not having fire 4 until level 60

[silver ruin]

at those level ranges

[jade quartz]

Do your best to execute your main gcd rotation

[shrewd owl]

i mean first thing i would do would be wiping every keybind

and just

slowly place the skills

in places that make sense

[knotty spindle]

I have a question

Can people see how much DPS you do in a raid?

[shrewd owl]

if they have act yeah

[jade quartz]

Yes using ACT

[knotty spindle]

:/

I dislike that

[shrewd owl]

they cant exactly bring it up ingame though

[robust crow]

they can make inferences based on the aggro listing

which isn't entirely accurate

[shrewd owl]

that too

[robust crow]

but is better than nothing

[jade quartz]

It’s a necessary part of the game though not in casual content really

[knotty spindle]

I mean this can get you kicked and stuff

[silver ruin]

not in casual content

[jade quartz]

Strictly speaking it’s against ToS.

[knotty spindle]

Because you're not doing optimal damage

[silver ruin]

not in casual content

[robust crow]

literally no one is going to kick you from anything for doing bad damage, like ever

[silver ruin]

it wont get you kcked there

[robust crow]

but if you are doing bad damage in savage

expect to get kicked

[silver ruin]

^

[robust crow]

because you'd be actively hindering progress

[silver ruin]

at that point

its noticable

[jade quartz]

Players harassing others for low numbers is very much against the rules and reportable.

[silver ruin]

without act

[mental oracle]

How do I summon the mount? I think I got an aircraft

[knotty spindle]

But apparently not in Savage?

[silver ruin]

like, ive found aggro numbers pretty accurate in savage for what ive seen

its still against the tos to speak about it in game

[robust crow]

it's really fucking obvious if you are doing bad damage in savage even without ACT

[silver ruin]

^

[agile laurel]

the only chance you'd get kicked in casual content is if you were visibly just pressing 1 button, or not even that

[robust crow]

when every mistake matters and could potentially cost the clear

[silver ruin]

^

[robust crow]

bad damage is one of the most obvious things

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[knotty spindle]

Okay, understandable.

[silver ruin]

like i run act, i dont actively shit on people for it in game or call people out

but i will blacklist people who are heavily underpreforming

cause at that point you should know your class

[knotty spindle]

It just puts pressure on the player though, but It's the nature of the beast when playing something like savage.

[shrewd owl]

shit like no-dps healers are very obvious

[silver ruin]

yup

that to

[mental oracle]

is general chat broken or what? why so many people here

[leaden ginkgo]

okay, I'll start over and slowly find places to put skills in

[agile laurel]

if you're playing savage then you need to be receptive to improvement

simple as.

[robust crow]

also if you die 2 times that's just a guarantee your damage is bad in savage

[silver ruin]

no, we were helpng a guy then it kinda spiraled

[jade quartz]

To be absolutely clear

[leaden ginkgo]

but what about managing buffs and using off gcds properly

[robust crow]

even 1 death in savage fucks your damage

[shrewd owl]

yeah so place your lowest level skills first

[silver ruin]

i died twice and ate 2 damage downs and got a 27

[shrewd owl]

and work your way up

[silver ruin]

i died once and got a 78

[jade quartz]

ACT is, strictly speaking, against the rules as a third party program that interacts with the game.

[silver ruin]

so yea dying and getting hit by dumb crap definitely kills your damage

[robust crow]

my friend, you are level 63 without even your core rotation, stop worrying about the complicated stuff

[knotty spindle]

Obviously your FC will help you improve if they notice you're not doing well, right?

[robust crow]

you're literally reading a level 80 guide when you are level 63

[silver ruin]

not necessarily

[jade quartz]

Discussing it ingame, especially bringing up others’ numbers to shame them, is not tolerated by the GMs.

[silver ruin]

most fcs dont raid together

[knotty spindle]

Oh

They don't?

[silver ruin]

statics are groups of people who raid together

[robust crow]

just chill out and read your skills

[knotty spindle]

Then what's an FC for?

[leaden ginkgo]

I mean using the tools that I currently have at my level

[jade quartz]

FCs usually have nothing to do with raiding.

[silver ruin]

social interaction mostly

statics can be data center wide, fcs are locked to your server

[knotty spindle]

Wait, really?

[robust crow]

you are literally missing a wheel in your bicycle at your current level

[silver ruin]

yup

[jade quartz]

It’s not like wow raid guilds

[silver ruin]

like theres tons of casual fcs out there that just do roulettes and stuff or just chat etc

some are rp fcs

[shrewd owl]

not to mention you're missing your level 60 skill as well umbra

[jade quartz]

Groups are only 8 man so you don’t need a whole guild with backups etc

[knotty spindle]

I legit thought it was like WoW Raiding Guilds

[silver ruin]

nope

[robust crow]

so you can try to learn how to ride a unicycle right now or you can wait until you have the full bicycle at 64

[knotty spindle]

I guess there is no point in joining an FC then

[silver ruin]

fcs also can provide good buufs

buffs

[jade quartz]

Buffs

[knotty spindle]

Ah, okay.

[robust crow]

well it depends on the FC

[silver ruin]

+10 min for food, exp boost, teleport discount

[shrewd owl]

fcs are either for buffs or just socialising ig
idk i just use mine for buffs

[silver ruin]

things like that

[jade quartz]

But plenty of people are fc-less

[knotty spindle]

Some FCs do raiding though, right?

[robust crow]

my FC, for example, helps a lot in setting up new statics or getting people into raids

[silver ruin]

very very rare

if you lock it to fc, its locked to one server

you have less of a pool to pick from

player wise

[robust crow]

we do teaching parties every few weeks to encourage people to try savage

[jade quartz]

Several people from one fc may be in a static together

[knotty spindle]

So how do you find raids to join then?

Like Savage?

[robust crow]

but within our FC we have 5 associated statics that raid separately from the FC

[silver ruin]

party finder

[jade quartz]

Rare that the entire static is one FC though

Discord

[silver ruin]

or theres discords for recruiting for statics

[knotty spindle]

I see

[silver ruin]

for example some people from my static are from thesame fc, (like 2 or 3), but the rest of us are on different servers in the data center

[knotty spindle]

I still don't understand why aren't they like WoW guilds? I mean WoW guilds are also restricited to players from the same server

[robust crow]

of those 5 statics I just mentioned, probably half of all players aren't in the FC or even on the server

[knotty spindle]

And they still raid easily

[silver ruin]

cause you can recruit cross server

why limit your pool that shallow for recruitment

[knotty spindle]

You can't in WoW either