It's better than 1.0
#questions-and-help
keen gate
Well ya obviously I wasn’t counting 1.0 in that lol
earnest wraith
but when will they adjust/fix daily roulette for msq quest...
slate arrow
2.0 is a lot of busywork but that's because you're a nobody
earnest wraith
twilit arch
ARR sets up a lot of important details
without it, the rest of the expansions aren't as good imo
slate arrow
2.x was better as it sets up a lot of future stuff
honest anvil
the more i play, the more i appreciate all the arr set up stuff fwiw
thin comet
imo for me its ARR > Shadowbringer > Heavensward > Stormblood
remote lintel
ARR literally sets up everything that happens in the expansions
honest anvil
Lots of stuff are still referred to even in current expac
slate arrow
ARR had to cover everything 1.0 covered as well that wasn't made moot by the Calamity
remote lintel
and if youre confused by the story its because a lot of the npcs talk about the calamity from 1.0
but the 1.0 story isnt important
keen gate
I’m only level 28 and a little over leveled rn and in a real reborn I’m really enjoying it but definitely can be slow at times
bronze crater
How do you put materia on your gear?
modest igloo
!faq meld
faint flare
With materia melders
zinc orbitBOT
bronze crater
Thanks
modest igloo
!faq melding
zinc orbitBOT
modest igloo
there we go
bronze crater
Is materia really only useful for endgame?
ocean island
Any recommendations on a Crystal server for a newbie? Or is Crystal just bad in general? lol
faint flare
!faq worldpick
zinc orbitBOT
ocean island
Jeez this is a weird choice. Picking whatever sounds cool then.
surreal folio
someone can explain that please i don't understand
faint flare
You can bulk buy time
remote lintel
you pay for that many days upfront and the price next to it is how much each month would be
surreal folio
for 40$ you can get 1 year of sub ?
obsidian patio
No.
surreal folio
so
faint flare
You can only have 180 days at a time
obsidian patio
12 months with the 6month sub choice would be about $156
surreal folio
i dont understand xD
obsidian patio
You can’t buy tons of time at once as a giant stockpile
slate arrow
you can buy subscription time either directly off the site, or via time cards
surreal folio
ahhh yes yes i understand
twilit arch
180 days comes out to being roughly the same as entry
twilit arch
ultimately though, unless you're going to be playing for most of those days its not worth it
should just do entry
zinc orbitBOT
elder sinew
So how many people do you need to keep a FC house? do they need to be active/subscribed?
obsidian patio
Once the house is bought you can have any number of FC members
twilit arch
so long as atleast one free company member enters the house, it will reset auto demolish
slate arrow
wdym by last one
remote lintel
max characters?
elder sinew
What's the demolish timer?
obsidian patio
45 days
elder sinew
Ah
polar cairn
Vpns actually work in this game?
little swift
The last column shows the number of total characters you can have on that one account.
faint flare
Yes
bronze crater
I noticed on YouTube videos of people playing dragoon they have this sort of “dragoon bar” I’m now a level 37 but have yet to see that. Is that something that comes at max level?
bronze crater
Thank you
oblique yew
what's the best way to farm revelations?
little swift
Basically doing content with a level 80 will earn you revelation
oblique yew
daily roulette gives so little though, 15-50, where each gear piece cost 400-800
faint flare
Thats a bonus
Ontop of what the dungeon gives
A expert roulette is 90 revelation
When adding what the dungeon itself gives
leaden ginkgo
how do i fix this
faint flare
Plus you can only get 450 revelation a week
leaden ginkgo
can u buy back scaeban accessories???
leaden ginkgo
calamity?
remote lintel
no
faint flare
Poetics
remote lintel
rhalgrs reach
leaden ginkgo
where?
remote lintel
for poetics
leaden ginkgo
bruh
i accidently discarded my fking healing accessories
it doesnt let u open another one
remote lintel
just discard them all and open it
faint flare
Check belts as well
remote lintel
you sure you dont have some equipped
oblique yew
Shadowbringers hunt trains
what is this?
faint flare
Going around and killing A/s rank hunts
leaden ginkgo
yea
i dont have any healing ones equiped accessory wise
i think its glitched l0l
faint flare
No belts?
twilit arch
do /isearch scaevan
red junco
quick troubleshooting
is it possible to like, be unable to join a data center
my friend's trying to get into Crystal but they can't select it
remote lintel
wym they cant select it
red junco
they said they can't select the Crystal Data center
we're trying to get a screenshot rn
remote lintel
is it grayed out or something
red junco
is that even possible?
remote lintel
not to my knowledge
gleaming mist
were they already connected to crystal?
rough fossil
Do retainers keep their levels as a certain job if you change them to something else and the back again?
simple crest
what is good to do between dungeon que times?
remote lintel
@rough fossil no
rough fossil
Oh man. So I’m never going to have a gatherer retainer then
tender ice
Is Rival Wings PVP?
faint flare
Yes
ocean island
Idk if a dumb question or not but is it good to do every quest or you just follow the main story quests?
faint flare
Main scenario and blue quests should be done
As blue quests unlock SOMETHING
Yellow quests are ignorable if you want
heavy wadi
ocean island
When is Samurai unlocked?
little swift
Side quests don't reward enough exp to warrant doing for the purpose of leveling
!faq sbjobs
zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
Lv50 and owning stormblood
ocean island
Oh alrighty thanks guys.
boreal storm
If the side quest gave an item you can track it that way
viscid fossil
Does anyone know about the idle emote with hands on the hip and look around?
remote lintel
the guard emote from bozja
viscid fossil
oh ty
proven magnet
guys does it matter what i Join here ?
faint flare
No
proven magnet
oh i did flame officer because my fav pokemon are 🔥 lol
faint flare
You can change later
little swift
proven magnet
how did this happen 
remote lintel
you joined one in the story?
civic spoke
how long is tank queue normally supposed to be?
oak ice
Depends on what you're doing
civic spoke
just dungeons and roulettes
oak ice
Shouldn't be terribly long, then
civic spoke
ah, so not healer insta queue
oak ice
Depends on prime time
remote lintel
healer also depends
proven magnet
what do you get from dungeons at max level
remote lintel
gear and tomes
obsidian patio
Part of it also depends on what jobs got released
oak ice
Tomes
remote lintel
same things as all the other dungeons
civic spoke
95% of my healer queues are instant unless they're end game dungeons
proven magnet
so the gear u get from level 80 dungeons is it a step up from MSQ then u go get gear in raids?
obsidian patio
Like tanks took a noticeable hit in queue times when gunbreaker got added
civic spoke
rip healer queue when sage gets released
remote lintel
you can get gear from dungeons or buy it or buy tome gear or get gear from raids
civic spoke
though i still don't think we'll be hit too hard because most people don't like playing healers
obsidian patio
As tanks, yes
tender ice
I was a DRK
oak ice
Timers for tanks shorten drastically as you get closer to 80 because lots of people doing GNB as babby's first tonk end up dropping it
obsidian patio
Sephirot extreme?
proven magnet
you can get gear from dungeons or buy it or buy tome gear or get gear from raids
ok so theres multiple ways to get end game gear also u can buy gear? what gear is the best is raid gear>>tome gear>dungeon gear at 80?
obsidian patio
If so then you likely need to be Paladin or Warrior
oak ice
Paladin is your safest bet
tender ice
ah
remote lintel
bis is a mix of augmented tome gear and savage gear
oak ice
Doable on WAR, too
robust magnet
I was watching a video regarding how a specific user uses their mouse and their hotkeys.
In said video, it showed that he had Modifier+Key [Alt+R] set to a single mouse side button.
Isn't that against Terms of Service?
obsidian patio
His mechanics necessitate an immunity that doesn’t kill you solo-wise
remote lintel
you can buy gear on the mb
oak ice
Seph has the hardest mechanics solo
obsidian patio
I was watching a video regarding how a specific user uses their mouse and their ...
Can’t say I’ve heard of people getting banned for something like that
I know using ones that do multiple actions in an order can be sketchy
robust magnet
I was always under the impression that if you used a single key for multiple inputs, it broke ToS.
Technically Alt + R would be that, no?
being able to "hit 1 button" on my mouse, where another would need to hit both.
oak ice
Even if it was, which I can't imagine it is, they would have no way of checking it
remote lintel
depends what you use it for
robust magnet
It was a lot of Modifer+key, assigned to their hotbar, and mouse.
And then they'd use the buttons on their mouse to use said skill.
sleek roost
They're still pushing one button to use one skill. it's fine
open oriole
Kind of a related question: is using mouse/keyboard macros (like Logitech, Razer Synapse, etc) to spam oGCD skills (for example, an oGCD skill binded on Numpad 1) or even GCD skills against ToS ?
tender ice
How do I redeem the poetics?
twilit arch
you need to turn the book into khloe
robust magnet
So it's more of 1 button = 1 skill/action
not 1 button = 1 key press?
So as long as 1 key press doesn't trigger 2 skills?
obsidian patio
So it's more of 1 button = 1 skill/action
not 1 button = 1 key press?
So as long...
Pretty much, yeah
oak ice
The game shouldn't be able to handle 2 skills being used at the same time
obsidian patio
Kind of a related question: is using mouse/keyboard macros (like Logitech, Razer...
As long as one key doesn’t do multiple actions it’s fine
robust magnet
gotcha.
Guess I'll be redoing some of my mouse buttons then. Always did num1-9 and then resulted in never using them. lol.
thx for the clarification.
open oriole
As long as one key doesn’t do multiple actions it’s fine
Noted, ty !
proven magnet
you can buy gear on the mb
wait, if u get raid gear from a raid u can sell it on marketplace?
twilit arch
no
proven magnet
o
obsidian patio
Dungeon/raid/trial gear is untradeable 99% of the time
The 1% mostly being some Specific ARR leveling dungeon gear
zinc orbitBOT
remote lintel
you can buy crafted i510 gear
void vigil
Closest class to a necromancer?
remote lintel
a healer
proven magnet
are there any spells i dont need here since i am a warrior now can i remove some maurader skills?
crisp saddle
Can someone explain to me whenever my friend tries to sign in on the website it says he cant sign in because he's a free trial user
proven magnet
o
shrewd owl
Warrior is basically just marauder continued
remote lintel
stun is kind of niche but i would still keep it
obsidian patio
I’d definitely put the stun on a less valuable keybind
obsidian patio
Can someone explain to me whenever my friend tries to sign in on the website it ...
The lodestone? Free Trial users can’t log into it
!faq freetrial
zinc orbitBOT
obsidian patio
Last bulletin point in the limitations
zinc finch
where do you get more thavnarian scalepowder?
honest anvil
Are aspected helios’ shield and heal potencies when combined equal to a helios?
Idylshire iirc
slate arrow
!action aspected helios
zinc orbitBOT
Powered by XIVAPI
obsidian patio
where do you get more thavnarian scalepowder?
Buy with poetics in mor dhona or idyllshire
Or the rowena representatives in the main cities and ishgard
analog gate
there's a small circle on the top right, so yes
proven magnet
wow this game makes u walk quite a bit far lol
upper cove
wow this game makes u walk quite a bit far lol
Advance your MSQ and get mounts asap. Really helps a lot
rough fossil
Ahm I sat on my keyboard and don’t know what I hit but now I’m walking really slowly with my weapon drawn. Any ideas?
twilit arch
/ toggles walk/run
twilit arch
yes
rough fossil
Sorry what? What do I do to fix it?
forest sage
all of it
tender ice
Sweet, cheers
forest sage
trials raids alliance raids have 1st time bonus
@rough fossil press / on numpad
if you rebinded it, look at the keybindings for the Toggle Run/Walk function
rough fossil
Aha! Thanks!
forest sage
and put it on a key
rough fossil
Don’t think I’ve ever walked anywhere before lol
forest sage
it has some limited uses, some monsters use sound detection and walking lets you avoid aggroing them
that's basically only relevant in Eureka and potd/hoh(especially soloing high floors)
rough fossil
Ah I see
karmic kernel
Where on the Mogstation do I go to get a third retainer?
twilit arch
account services > additional paid options
fringe trellis
Any I allowed to recuit for my FC here? If so where?
fringe trellis
Thank you
stable hinge
what raid utility does SMN have?
analog gate
addle for mitigation, phoenix has a tiny heal, and devotion for offensive buff
they also have a battle raise
proven magnet
anything in my inventory that u guys would throw out? i dont want it to get full and i dont know whats garbage lol
analog gate
and technically a heal spell but it's bad
obsidian patio
anything in my inventory that u guys would throw out? i dont want it to get full...
The faded music rolls, the monster materials, the potions that don’t give hp or mp
stable hinge
Thanks
plain python
Lyna the dancer trust is only available in the 71 MSQ dungeon?
obsidian patio
Yep
plain python
is there another one-time trust like that in ShB?
glacial isle
this is from The Epic of Alexander Ultimate right?
obsidian patio
Yep
hollow violet
Is there way to end a timed duty early without abandoning it? "Kill as many enemies as possible in 5 minutes." I've already killed enough for success and have another 3 minutes to go. Do I just wait it out?
obsidian patio
is there another one-time trust like that in ShB?
AFAIK, yes, if you don’t count the exarch
obsidian patio
Is there way to end a timed duty early without abandoning it? "Kill as many en...
Just have to wait those out
hollow violet
thanks
zinc orbitBOT
forest sage
you can check https://saltedxiv.com/sam for the detailed guides and what skill speed tiers you want
weary dagger
if im wearing excharic gear and buying cryptlurker, is chest piece the best 1st piece cuz 530 chest only drops from e12s? (i have yet to start savage)
pale jungle
Sounds good thx
remote lintel
buy whatever your bis is
weary dagger
ic! ty :)
pale jungle
What’s bis stands for ?
remote lintel
best in slot
forest sage
yea probably focus on buying BiS slots first, although chest isn't a bad idea
pale jungle
Okey gotcha
remote lintel
chest might end up being a waste if its not the bis
forest sage
depends on how fast you progress, especially with 5.5 looming
although could be chest or legs, same stats
but your first weekly upgrade token from 5.5 could make that slot 530, which is a fair bit of stats, and you're unlikely to get your full BiS that quickly anyway so you'll have time to get other pieces as you grind savage
delicate crest
Returning to FFXIV after finishing stormblood story 3 years ago, any tips or things i should know who have massively changed since then ?
tacit venture
Hi, what does "Idle Animation Delay" do exactly?
the rate at which the randomized idle animation changes?
forest sage
the rate at which you enter idle animation after an action
tacit venture
oh okay, is the randomized pose change considered an action ?
remote lintel
no
tacit venture
ooh okay thanks for clearing that up
guess my char will be unsure of how to pose every so often 😄
warped nest
Returning to FFXIV after finishing stormblood story 3 years ago, any tips or thi...
Off the top of my head
When you use Poetic to buy gears, you will get augmented version directly
delicate crest
warped nest
On the story end, the Crystal Tower alliance raid is now mandatory as it connects to Shadowbringers
MP is now standardized to 10k, spells were using percentage of your full MP anyway. TP is gone.
remote lintel
journal > completed quests > chronicles of a new era tab > crystal tower from the drop down
hollow violet
Just finished collecting my black mage clothes. It came with this as well - is this just a second set I should bank in case I lose them?
delicate crest
I havent bought Shadowbringers already, i download the game yesterday and got the 4 days free
warped nest
On the combat end, aside from the usual stuffs getting changed, tanks get a more fundamental change:
- tank stance no longer reduce your damage output. And there is not more tank stance vs Dps stance. Tank stance nows improve your aggro
- natural damage mitigation from tank stance is moved to a trait
delicate crest
Thats alot of new stuff already 
warped nest
Machinist, Ninja, and Monk get a pretty big rework too
delicate crest
I was a War main, never really tested this 3 classes
warped nest
Machinist is a fully redo, it no longer do ammo reload and play with RNG
slow forum
Hello hello, so regarding the ffxiv art contest, does anyone know where/how to check if your submission went through?
warped nest
Ninja rework is simpler, they just make all your Ninjutsu GCD and worthwhile to use
remote lintel
it should have said so on the page iirc
slow forum
it should have said so on the page iirc
it does not :o it just says to "log back in"
but it's like-
where-
warped nest
I was a War main, never really tested this 3 classes
I see. Well, I hope you enjoy how tanks work now
remote lintel
to lodestone?
slow forum
aye, I'm in lodestone atm but where do I exactly find the information that I indeed submitted?
delicate crest
I heard that alot of the fight changed with Shadowbringers from a old friend, i'm mean it cant be worse than fighting T4 bahamut on a ps3 with the bugged hitbox from the dragon when FFXIV was fresh out
slow forum
it should have told you that your entry has been received on the submission form
yes! it did when I submitted but I want to make 100% sure it went through because anxiety 101
remote lintel
log back in to the submission form?
slow forum
log back in to the submission form?
aye I did that :o but it seems like it just leads me to the normal, blank submission form.
remote lintel
no idea then
remote lintel
if you already submitted then theres no point
slow forum
sdjfdsf am just worried it didn't get through, cause something similar happened to a purchase from squeenix before
fallen niche
So like, whatever happened with A4S? I heard it was so hard it nearly killed the game or something
silver lintel
is it possible to get grade 2 & 3 skybuilder's artisanal items anywhere since the unspoiled versions are still obtainable?
fallen niche
is it possible to get grade 2 & 3 skybuilder's artisanal items anywhere since th...
Market board most likely
Unless you mean the non approved stuff
If you mean not approved, then I don't think you can get anything grade 2, maybe a few grade 3 items.
silver lintel
you can still get the grade 2 and 3 unspoiled items for some reason
i wasn't sure if that meant you could get the other ones to make the recipes then since it kinda rendered the resources moot otherwise
got some grade 2 umbral galewood on accident while trying my first unspoiled diadem node but if the other parts of the recipes are unobtainable them i'm list as to why you can still get them
crisp saddle
So my friend is trying to login into the free trial but its not allowing him it keeps saying his password is wrong but its not on the ps4
oblique yew
why cant i dye the lvl 80 weathered gear?
zinc orbitBOT
obsidian patio
got some grade 2 umbral galewood on accident while trying my first unspoiled dia...
All the grade 2/3 artisanal stuff is still obtainable in the diadem due to the old expert recipes having achievements tied to them
silver lintel
you mean the unspoiled stuff only is or the other stuff around it is too?
rose fox
So i took up a hand class( wvr) to see what its like and I having a hard time doing the lv 30 job quest without running out of cp or durabilty. Its not just the job item even low level materials i cannot make a hq version of it. The highest i got is 14%. Is there a guide somewhere?
silver lintel
you could try plugging your values into something like this
https://ffxiv-beta.lokyst.net/#/crafter-attributes
see if it can generate something for you
remote lintel
get better gear
silver lintel
otherwise you might need to try levelling a bit higher and/or getting better gear
remote lintel
if youre leveling crafters you should be leveling them all together
silver lintel
i struggled on the armorer level 30 i think quest
i finally went back to do it at 80 and literally a single use of prepatory touch put it at 100% hq lol
rose fox
Does better gear increase durabilty and cp?
silver lintel
it can increase cp for sure
remote lintel
not durability
silver lintel
durability no
it can increase the amount you generate for HQ and for crafting it though
remote lintel
durability is item specific
silver lintel
yeah
though
there's skills to restore durability
master's mend you should already have, but it eats cp up
if you have like 400 - 500 though then you could use it several times over
what are your craftsmanship, control, and cp?
buoyant sorrel
What's the boss that makes you do math?
remote lintel
second ivalice raid
silver lintel
also what item are you crafting
fallen niche
What's the boss that makes you do math?
Ivalice raid and a Bozja CE
rose fox
I didnt think gear would effect the hand classes much so i didnt change from the low lvl ones. Let me update and i let u know how it works out.
remote lintel
gear is even more important for doh/dol classes than combat
silver lintel
yeah
remote lintel
you cant make the good lvl 80 stuff without like fully overmelded bis gear along with syrup and food
silver lintel
basically, craftsmanship affects how strong synthesis actions are (completion of crafting item)
control affects the strength of touch actions (quality increase actions)
even without more cp, just improving stuff like control would be a massive help
tbh crafting macros saved my ass late-game too though
rose fox
Ohh i see. Improving control is tied to gear too, or is it mostly inner quiet?
remote lintel
control and craftsmanship are from gear/food/syrup
silver lintel
inner quiet is very good but improving the skill itself is tied to gear
remote lintel
they are character stats
silver lintel
though yeah there are temporary food buffs and such too
even attaching materia can help
if you give me your 3 stats and an item name at some point i can explore some sequences but i'd still recommend just levelling it a bit and coming back
where you are now it's just that much harder and more expensive to try and possibly fail than to come back and do it with ease
remote lintel
and level all crafters together
silver lintel
you can level them passively with daily provisions or pretty much power level them in the firmament when you unlock that
it honestly only took me a couple days to max armorer (granted it was like 60 something when i started the final stretch) and maxing the rest is now also really fast
the firmament gives ridiculous xp
rose fox
Craft is 99 control is 57 and the item is a hq velveteen gaiters.
silver lintel
what about cp?
rose fox
180 like i said i using very low lvl gear.
silver lintel
eek, yeah, get an upgrade to gear for sure
obsidian patio
You should be able to get a set of accessories from levels 15-20
That’ll boost CP
frozen crater
so I'm at the part in ARR where ||everyone in the Waking Sands dies||. Are the quests going to get any better any time soon? I've been just switching zones to talk to one person and going back for the past 30 minutes
silver lintel
i'm really only able to get about 7 - 8% hq
rose fox
Accidently sold em; getting more now
silver lintel
also moondra, it's kinda subjective
i'll just say that people liked ShB the most and HW the second most (usually)
ARR is a bit of a mess
remote lintel
thats what quests are
silver lintel
yeah lol
remote lintel
either talk to person, gather/kill thing, or do duty
frozen crater
It's just like, it's been a while since I've even fought a mob lmao
silver lintel
ARR's post-game content was some of the most lax in the game
rose fox
I just finish SHB last night. One of the most hypest thing i experence. Its worth it
frozen crater
Yup
remote lintel
the msq gives you duties like every few levels
rose fox
Yeah where is that?
silver lintel
you could spend like an hour in there and get your crafting levelled
it's in foundation
frozen crater
I don't think I have any 
left besides additional jobs
silver lintel
look for Recruitment Notice as 9.7, 11.5 in Foundation
should have Towards the Firmament
frozen crater
I'm mostly just trying to power through the story for now so I can get caught up with friends since it's locked behind that. It's not that bad, but it does feel a bit like a chore right now and I wasn't sure if ARR gets better of it's just like this for most of the expansion
tender dirge
is there a macro my gf can make that will let her jump on my whale mount?
rose fox
Thanks i check it out. The good thing with endwalker being about a year away is that i can finally take my time to check out the extra stuff. So i look into the other hand classes too. I want money
tender dirge
shes using a gamepad and it sucks to have to right click my mount everytinme
remote lintel
@frozen crater ARR may feel a bit slow because it has a lot of world building but it sets up literally everything else that happens in the expansions
frozen crater
I see
silver lintel
tbh i'm only seeing other people asking for the inclusion of a macro for that that doesn't otherwise exist
remote lintel
and the ending is really good
frozen crater
I am interested in the story and the atmosphere, it just doesn't feel super engaging currently
silver lintel
i guess a better option would be trying to see if there's a way to pull up ride pavillion on controller but i'm struggling to find that too honestly
remote lintel
she just needs to target you and press whatever the right click equivalent is
its X for me
frozen crater
Oooh, scratch that. I just found ||Cid|| 👀 now I'm engaged
silver lintel
i concur after asking NN
someone said it was square for them
try either of those
tender dirge
Ah, how do i make it so she can macro target me?
silver lintel
there should be a button to cycle targets the same as tag and numpad 0
you can even configure out it works in the menu
remote lintel
you should be in a party so just press up or down on the dpad twice
up/down cycles party members
tender dirge
awesome ty
remote lintel
!faq contentunlock
zinc orbitBOT
tender dirge
when can we fly?
remote lintel
!faq flying
zinc orbitBOT
tender dirge
ty
stable herald
Does anyone know which of the tank trusts has the higher dps?
and which healer can do multiple pulls?
oblique yew
should i do the eden stuff after i finish post ShB?
drifting ruin
~750?
tender dirge
Do we need to finish all of them?
remote lintel
yes
remote lintel
thats the game
remote lintel
all of a realm reborn and heavensward and stormblood and shadowbringers
stable herald
i mean.. how far in are you?
fervent panther
hey I just got ffxiv so a newcomer any rookie mistake that i should be on the look out for?
remote lintel
so youre like 10% into the game
tender dirge
LMAO
remote lintel
!faq newplayertips @fervent panther
zinc orbitBOT
remote lintel
i wouldnt look those up
tender dirge
alright ty ❤️
drifting ruin
there's like 300 quests in the base game story tho
stable herald
oh wow, just starting? got a LOOONG way bud
tender dirge
I'm fine with it , its my girlfriend i worry about 😦
remote lintel
this is a final fantasy game
stable herald
wut
drifting ruin
story is good
fervent panther
JESUS THANKS @remote lintel this helps alot thanks 🙂
tender dirge
She doesnt seem to like the story much haha
drifting ruin
it gets better
remote lintel
ARR sets up literally everything that happens in the expansions
and the ending is really good
drifting ruin
shadowbringers > heavensward > arr > stormblood
leaden ginkgo
Does “goring blade” replace “Rage of Halone”? Or should I keep the latter? Level 54 PLD currently
leaden ginkgo
True, but goring blade got a combo potency of 390, while the other got 350. Or is it different at max level?
analog gate
rage of halone will be replaced by something else soon, spam goring blade combo meanwhile
raven sage
Royal Authority
leaden ginkgo
Fair enough. Thank you
oblique yew
is there a resistance quesstline?
slate arrow
yes
oblique yew
and that is the ShB relic questline?
slate arrow
yes
oblique yew
and what is this eden questline?
oblique yew
do they have good loot as well?
vital ruin
Does no one even do suzaku
I've queued as dps for 30 minutes
Healer for like over 10 minutes
Is today like a bad day or something
drifting ruin
@oblique yew You should be aware the looting works kinda different for raids. You clear the boss and you get tokens which you exchange for the gear pieces
oblique yew
<@!428184755847299073> You should be aware the looting works kinda different for...
isnt this better than the rng?
drifting ruin
for example, you can exchange 4x Armor of Lost Antiquity for a 510 armour piece
I mean, you can pick/choose what you get, but you can only get 1 token per week per raid (for the last section at least)
oblique yew
wtf
analog gate
it's weekly locked instead of RNG
drifting ruin
there's 12 raids, 3 sections of 4
the first 8 aren't weekly capped, but they're lower ilvl
oblique yew
do any of these exchanged gear require more than 4 tokens?
drifting ruin
no
remote lintel
the weapon
drifting ruin
oh yeah true
remote lintel
requires 7 blades
oblique yew
jesus
drifting ruin
and you get 1 per week max
but
helm, boots and gloves require 2, armor and legs require 4,
accessories and belts require 1
So what I did was get 4 accessories the first week
ez ilvl boost
oblique yew
So what I did was get 4 accessories the first week
i thought you said 1 token per week
drifting ruin
per raid
analog gate
1 token per fight per week, there are 4 fights
drifting ruin
each one of these will give you 1 drop per week, and the last one will give a weapon piece
analog gate
not much harder than normal mode trials imo
drifting ruin
They're not hard, no
oblique yew
hmm. cool
analog gate
these are just normal raids
it's the savage mode that's much harder
oblique yew
when do you unlock savage mode? after the eden questline?
oblique yew
welp. long way to go
drifting ruin
It's a fun quest though
all the fights are nice
and they don't take too long individually
the queue times might be bad for the earlier ones though
dreamy pier
does anyone have a link to a working texttools?
zinc orbitBOT
quasi flame
I want to try the duty roulette but it says adventure in need healer, do I need to be one to join?
or is that more of a suggestion lol
steep vine
Just a suggestion, but whatever it says. Healer, tank or dps. If you use that role, you get more items or Gil at the end of the roulette
quasi flame
ok ty
wintry oak
am i crazy or is the first set of quests to level 50 before heavensward or a realm reborn feel kinda slow and arduos
quasi flame
I just finished the ARR quests and just started the 2.1 patch quests, yea it's very slow and tedious 😦
modest igloo
yep, it used to be worse
quasi flame
I keep being told it's the worst one lol
wintry oak
😦
modest igloo
its ok, but its the worst the game has to offer
wintry oak
is it worse than the firs 1-50 quests
modest igloo
2.1-2.3 is a bit of a slog yes
azure ivy
ARR's old during a time where they were remaking the game with a budget along with the entire world building so it's rather slow but everything picks up and gets much better
modest igloo
2.4 onward tho starts picking up, keeper of the lake is the point where things start getting better
than Heavensward... what a great expansion. 9/10 stuff right there
wintry oak
wait so then what are all the quests before level 50
plain python
ARR is like first 10 chapters of a great manga. Mainly just world building and character introduction. Then bam, a proper arc that grips your interest.
wintry oak
shit feels a bit longer than 10 chapters
modest igloo
||keeper of the lake is the turning point imo||
plain python
well, 10 chapters of Berserk can last 5-10 years XD
wintry oak
also when do high end duties unlock
plain python
lv80
and finish ShB
what is the next lv requirement for the one after lv71 dungeon?
silver ruin
73/75/77/79
plain python
I need rank 3 to buy vanity stuffs with bi-color gem?
slate arrow
basically, yes
slate arrow
and you need rank 3 in all 3 zones to unlock the special collectibles from the Eulmore and Crystarium vendors
quasi flame
for me it feels like leveling has slowed down significantly at 55 even with the road to 70 buff 😦
slate arrow
are you doing your current level dungeons or spamming leveling roulette
obsidian patio
If you’re in the ARR patch story then that’s why
quasi flame
I was doing like 10 levels a day and now I'm lucky to even level 1
obsidian patio
As those story quests give very little experience to prevent overleveling
quasi flame
ugh
slate arrow
you're supposed to be 50 until heavensward
remote lintel
HW is meant to start at lvl 50
slate arrow
you can't even use your new job skills as those are behind your job quests anyways
quasi flame
hopefully the patch quests don't take too long
plain python
can dancer solo up to PoTD 40 without sustain pot?
I tried the first boss and he hit quite hard even with 99/99 gear
upper cove
||keeper of the lake is the turning point imo||
Glad to hear this. Literally just finished keeper of the lake today
pulsar escarp
I’m still yet to do keeper of the lake without wiping with a team lmao
floral sky
Hey I’m trying to allocate my weapon and shield for PLD for the law order stuff what stats should I go into most?
vernal urchin
what were the four stats again?
vernal urchin
i know one of them's tenacity and you can just ignore that one
remote lintel
open the character window
zinc orbitBOT
obsidian patio
Hey I’m trying to allocate my weapon and shield for PLD for the law order stuff ...
Max out crit/Det, rest into skill speed if you need it. If not then tenacity
drifting ruin
Do riding maps only increase speed on the ground?
remote lintel
yes
drifting ruin
good to know, thanks
leaden ginkgo
Just curious, but how did Ninja mudras work before they changed it in 5.1?
uncut pendant
They would interrupt gcds earlier if I remember right
slate arrow
'yes' for MSQ, no for bonus trust mode
leaden ginkgo
Did they have charges like they do now?
slate arrow
they gain EXP from complete dungeon runs
you'll have to level most of them from level 71
2-3 runs for a level
potent shale
How do you get more storage space
my glam problem is getting real now
I dont have enough space for my weapons
proud willow
Are you putting them in the glamour dresser?
vernal urchin
make sacrifices or buy more retainers :V
oblique yew
the queue times might be bad for the earlier ones though
45mins of pain
upper cove
I’m still yet to do keeper of the lake without wiping with a team lmao
We wiped once but overall all 4 of us pretty much knew how to do the mechanics.
I was the WHM, I screwed up and stood in an AOE thinking I can change my heal faster than the AOE and died towards the end of our second round. Thankfully my team still managed to clear.
pulsar escarp
We wiped once but overall all 4 of us pretty much knew how to do the mechanics.
yeah I"ve done it three times and twice it was the tank not positioning the dragons (and dps being a bit flustered by aoes so healing was troublesome), and the most recent one had me tanking but they couldn't select the shield in time
it's not a big deal but keeper of the lake often has some trial and error
lol
leaden ginkgo
How can we find a user selling stuff on market from their retainer?
remote lintel
you cant really
leaden ginkgo
Bummer.
There is always someone who is always undercutting stuff I put for 1 gill difference.
And I feel the need of slapping them hard in the face and spitting in their mouth.
remote lintel
probably bots
wintry chasm
leaden ginkgo
True 😔
edgy sail
How many jobs do you guys actually have time to play?
And keep at least somewhat current
open ember
I personally have time to play them all but the time invested on leveling them is alot
But it is pretty convienent having more than one job or type of job to play esp in pf parties
edgy sail
Yeah, I'm trying to level at least one caster and melee as well now and I'm really not sure if I'll end up leveling more than one of each
How often does max iLevel go up?
open ember
Level them one at a time
Lv50
Lv60
Lv70
Lv80
But for 70-80 it would be wise to use dunegon gear
gritty oracle
How many jobs do you guys actually have time to play?
I main one for savage raiding (SCH) and DNC and SMN are my backups for extremes if I can't heal for whatever reason. Granted, I level classes super casually, roulettes only
open ember
After level 75
edgy sail
I'm doing many jobs at the same time so I can turn in equipment that I don't need when the classes I'm leveling go up at the same time
edgy sail
Yeah, I'll need more space heh
leaden ginkgo
I personally play a bit of everything, I rp so all of my characters are themed and each play maybe 2-3 jobs at max level
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
Trance lines up with tri disaster at 80, so you end up holding it for 10s or so to maximise your tri disaster uses
pulsar escarp
Yeah I mean gotta use it for as long as possible but I mean if it's off cd and you've used tri disaster you should use it instantly right for the damage
and then you do ruin, tri disaster again and then spam ruin until you can ahk morn at th every end
I'm just considering giving a sound effect so I can use it without tunnel visioning
leaden ginkgo
After 70 you won't be using trance for its full duration
pulsar escarp
really?? that seems like less damage
leaden ginkgo
Since you want to burn it ASAP to get bahamut up
pulsar escarp
but it makes cast times so short
pulsar escarp
couldn't you keep it up as long as possible before pulling bahamut?
leaden ginkgo
No since that'll mess up your rotation
warm snow
Is that worth the longer wait for phoenix trance?
leaden ginkgo
This ^
pulsar escarp
I mean I'm lvl 60 rn so I don't need to worry about it till later but it's nice to preprepare
so I guess I'll remember that
warm snow
I'm arguing the opposite since phoenix and dreadwyrm share a cool down timer
Or moreso that's why I'm asking
leaden ginkgo
Every time you use trances full duration you're essentially delaying your entire rotation by 15s
leaden ginkgo
I'm arguing the opposite since phoenix and dreadwyrm share a cool down timer
And yes since you end up holding phoenix anyways to use tri before resetting it when you hit trance
warm snow
Ah, I see
agile laurel
use trance until you've used all your offglobals
you'll likely have enkindle, energy drain, maybe a couple of aetherflow stacks to use up
leaden ginkgo
Yeah that articulates what I was saying a little better
pulsar escarp
so stuff all those into trance
agile laurel
generally you want 4 gcds max, in my experience
pulsar escarp
and then bahamut
agile laurel
those will naturally align with trance
leaden ginkgo
Only use it for as long as you need to
pulsar escarp
I see
leaden ginkgo
I use DWT for maybe 2 gcds max
agile laurel
because smn doesn't clip its own gcd like blm does, instant casting ruin 3 isn't really a dps gain on paper
so utilise it to weave, and then end it as soon as you have
pulsar escarp
so just use ogcds and then go right into bahamut
agile laurel
mhm.
pulsar escarp
nice
so... is dreadwyrm trance use on CD? would it line up with the rotation and all?
agile laurel
yes
pulsar escarp
gievn from what i can tell it also unlocks your route to bahamut/phoenix
glossy flare
If you do your rotation right, yes
SMN has the longest rotation of all jobs but it all fits together so it seems more daunting than it actually is
pulsar escarp
If you do your rotation right, yes
it depends on if you do your opener right, right? and keep circulating ogcds
glossy flare
Yeah if you mess up at any point you might have to introduce fillers
pulsar escarp
oh what?
glossy flare
Well yeah it's trance -> actual Bahamut -> Phoenix
leaden ginkgo
But after you summon and expend bahamut DWT turns into phoenix trance
glossy flare
Or 2x trance until you get the passive to get 2 stacks for one trance
pulsar escarp
so wait is bahamut just a straight up separate skill
glossy flare
The actual summon is, yeah
pulsar escarp
wild
glossy flare
You'll get it later
leaden ginkgo
You get dreadwyrm aether from dreadwyrm trance
pulsar escarp
and only unlocks after you've done trance ic
leaden ginkgo
And when you get 2 (1 later on) you can summon bahamut
glossy flare
Yeah, completing the trance gives you a stack of dreadwyrm aether like Dioch says
pulsar escarp
I see
glossy flare
Right now you are in that awkward spot where you only got access to 1 of 4 phases of SMN
pulsar escarp
yeah haha
glossy flare
sorry, 2
glossy flare
Way more, yeah, SMN kinda sucks before that point
And believe you me, it's super fun at 80
pulsar escarp
I'm already having some fun at 60 lol
glossy flare
One of those jobs where leveling just kinda sucks
leaden ginkgo
Smn kinda clicks at around 72
pulsar escarp
I just don't play dps much because of wait queues
glossy flare
Once you unlock the actual Bahamut summon you don't want to leave for a while 😄
leaden ginkgo
I'm a dumbass so I'm bad at explaining smn
Since its kinda just muscle memory for me at this point
pulsar escarp
hey at least it means you're qualified
leaden ginkgo
Doubtful dgjdhjf
glossy flare
Well there is this little helpful picture here but that's for the whole rotation at lvl 80
It has the most dmg of all the ranged dps
But no party utility on the offside
pulsar escarp
Well there is this little helpful picture here but that's for the whole rotation...
I'm sure it's not too bad, probably isn't that hard to memorise when you actually get it
upper cove
Nostalgia factor probably
glossy flare
I'm sure it's not too bad, probably isn't that hard to memorise when you actuall...
No it's not, it looks daunting without having done it but it all fits together very well. SMN is probably the best thought out job in the game (imho)
Well MCH does not deal as much dmg as BLM for one
And it is kind of harder to play? Though that is subjective ofc
pulsar escarp
No it's not, it looks daunting without having done it but it all fits together v...
The only issue I hear a lot about is dying in your rotation and suffering a lot damagewise for it
glossy flare
The only issue I hear a lot about is dying in your rotation and suffering a lot ...
Yeah that is the big downside of SMN. You have a very long rotation where every part relies on the part that comes before. So breaking it off at any point hurts because getting back into it takes time
Ah yea, sorry for that
leaden ginkgo
There's lots of other things to take into account, such as aesthetics - a lot of people, me included just find MCH kinda clunky and unfocused
glossy flare
Ranged dps and caster dps are two separate roles
pulsar escarp
Yeah that is the big downside of SMN. You have a very long rotation where every ...
I can see myself leaning more to other roles just because of that, but if I know the fight that would definitely be fun
leaden ginkgo
Plus if you have high ping (also me) it's the only class that's almost inpossible to play
glossy flare
The big thing ranged dps have going for them is lots of party utility. Both BRD and DNC are pretty much supporters. MCH on the other hand just makes stuff go boom
shut panther
MCH does the most damage out of ranged DPS.. which is currently the lowest DPs role
leaden ginkgo
Bard is viable but is currently lowest damage, all classes are viable in all content it's purely preference
glossy flare
Yeah do bear in mind that this whole discussion is pretty hypothetical
Yes, ranged dps have the lowest dmg of all dps roles
But they can still clear all content no problem
leaden ginkgo
There are classes that are "worse" than others but all classes are 100% viable
You won't be locked out of content for playing a specific job unless that party is full of shitters
shut panther
Raiding isn't nearly as big as in wow
glossy flare
On the contrary, it's very much alive
shut panther
At the end of the day it's just not focused on by the dev team compared to wow
glossy flare
Depends on the data center, to a degree
glossy flare
But if you want to get into super serious raiding you will have no problem finding people to do it with is my point
shut panther
The safe main is the one you want to play. Honestly.
glossy flare
If the past tells us anything then that all jobs are safe
Balance has never been bad as far as I can remember
shut panther
Wow and FFXIV raid design is actually considerably different, FWIW.
modest igloo
All jobs are safe, but some jobs can feel a little unfun to play
pulsar escarp
Speaking of which, I only have smn as a dps and I've tried mch but pretty sure my ping is too shitty, any classes that aren't as punishable as smn if you die but are still fun (for you)?
glossy flare
What role do you want to get into? DPS I assume?
modest igloo
Looking at you SB Astro and MCH
leaden ginkgo
SB astro was messy lmao
glossy flare
So are you partial to playing a ranged dps here?
glossy flare
Speaking of which, I only have smn as a dps and I've tried mch but pretty sure m...
I'd recommend SAM. It's not that hard and pretty forgiving all around but still deals tons of dmg
How about casters?
pulsar escarp
I'd recommend SAM. It's not that hard and pretty forgiving all around but still ...
oh woah, I've never tried melee and it's a pretty selfish dps apparently, fun though then?
leaden ginkgo
Casters are super intuitive and satisfying once you get that shit down
glossy flare
And for ranged dps I would recommend DNC because it's easy and very fun to play. Also everyone loves to have a DNC around because of the dmg buffs 
leaden ginkgo
DNC is my go to class when I wanna chill
glossy flare
oh woah, I've never tried melee and it's a pretty selfish dps apparently, fun th...
Selfish in the sense that the party utility to bring is your own big dmg, yeah. 😄 But very fun indeed
leaden ginkgo
Since you can literally auto pilot their rotation
pulsar escarp
I'll try it then, I was also considering rdm and dnc
nothing stopping me from trying all three
glossy flare
RDM is the easiest caster job so do try it out to get a feel
Also very fun, my favourite caster actually
modest igloo
RDM is a simple rotation but has a melee and ranged phase
pulsar escarp
the closest I've ever got to playing melee is playing drk so I've never considered samurai though, so that'll be cool too
glossy flare
SAM only has 2 positionals so it's easing you in pretty well
torpid juniper
Hey does the armory bonus only build for classes you gave access to? Basically I want to know if I should go unlock all classes I can so they can all get that bonus. I'm level 38 on archer and saw something about this when I went to try another class.
shut panther
Rdm is simple to play but incredibly desirable for group content and aesthetically pleasing
leaden ginkgo
Still kinda wish we got tank samurai
pulsar escarp
I'm guessing samurai just means: don't go to the frnt of the boss
glossy flare
BUT! SAM is sneaky about handing out those positionals. A passive at levle 52 (I believe) is just adding them to two skills you had from the beginning
But the game doesn't tell you 😄
shut panther
Hey does the armory bonus only build for classes you gave access to? Basically I...
The armory bonus doesn't "build", you just get a passive Exp bonus on classes below the level of the highest
glossy flare
I'm guessing samurai just means: don't go to the frnt of the boss
In general you will stand behind the boss the whole time and just move to the flank for that one positional that requires it
rough anchor
can NG+ limit what you'll get in roulettes?
torpid juniper
Ok, so no need to run to unlock all the other classes? They'll all get some sort of boost when I try them.
modest igloo
SAM’s postionals are pretty easy to get around, its not the end of the world if you miss them
glossy flare
^ that too
pulsar escarp
In general you will stand behind the boss the whole time and just move to the fl...
that sounds neat, I'm sure I can find out more when I try it
leaden ginkgo
Ok, so no need to run to unlock all the other classes? They'll all get some sort...
Exactly
glossy flare
SAM positionals only mean you get some more kenki to spend
which doesn't fuck with your rotation too hard if you miss them
shut panther
I think you might be conflating rest exp, which is character based rather than class based
upper cove
Positionals has been pretty intuitive so far. I'm on the free trial and only played through PLD WHM and NIN. You just got to map your skills to the corresponding hot bars and build a muscle memory.
leaden ginkgo
But Sams kenki directly translates to damage
torpid juniper
Ok thanks. I was gonna be a bit disappointed if I gave up plenty of experience I could've built all this time. Just didn't want to confuse myself more with 12classes to worry about when I started.
leaden ginkgo
Since its used almost exclusively on damage skils
glossy flare
Positionals has been pretty intuitive so far. I'm on the free trial and only pla...
To be fair, only NIN has positionals out of those jobs 😄 But yeah, they do seem more daunting than they actually are.
upper cove
One thing I learnt from others, while its important to hit your positionals, its really not the end of the world if you miss them
pulsar escarp
thinking about it samurai is probably a good idea seeing as I don't have to worry about the party at all and it's just myself, unlike.. drk and astro and it doesn't seem bad if you die either, unlike smn
upper cove
@glossy flare you're right! But when I got to it it was really easy to adjust for me. I believe I could transition to a monk easily and not have any issues remembering
modest igloo
Only MNK really care about positional a lot
glossy flare
Well MNK is just cranking positionals up to 11. In fact it's pretty annoying for me personally but that's of course subjective
leaden ginkgo
I remember when I started playing I thought paladin had positionals
glossy flare
Like... positionals are almost their main job mechanic
modest igloo
Even then, they get a second true north to compensate
glossy flare
True, that helps
leaden ginkgo
Pre 5.4 earth's fury was so OP
shut panther
The thing that bothers me about positionals in this game is they're so.. barely signposted.
leaden ginkgo
literally 30s of ignoring positionals
pulsar escarp
wait hold on if you're melee dps you're probably using or are able to LB quite a bit right
glossy flare
The thing that bothers me about positionals in this game is they're so.. barely ...
The game is pretty bad at teaching new players about them, yeah
glossy flare
wait hold on if you're melee dps you're probably using or are able to LB quite a...
Most of the time the melee dps will LB, yea
leaden ginkgo
The thing that bothers me about positionals in this game is they're so.. barely ...
Every enemy has a massive circle around them that shows you where their flank and rear are
forest sage
every mob has indicators in the targetting circle
modest igloo
Hopefully at some point this game actually teaches it’s players
pulsar escarp
Most of the time the melee dps will LB, yea
woah.. I've never LB3ed since tank/healer main normally lol
shut panther
I mean, I know about them. I just forget which one is which because the classes I've played they're just the ends of two nearly identical comboes.
glossy flare
woah.. I've never LB3ed since tank/healer main normally lol
Well tanks/healers do LB in harder content. Either because tank LB is required or the healer LB might save the day
pulsar escarp
yeah
glossy flare
But yeah, way rarer
pulsar escarp
but if boss is like, last few percent, melee wkll probably lb?
forest sage
PUG savage is like healer LB every other pull
glossy flare
That is the usual norm
shut panther
It would be helpful if the hotbar icon actually signposted the positional, for example. Or the ability name.
pulsar escarp
nice
shut panther
Where something like "backstab" is pretty simple.
leaden ginkgo
I still don't get why the games tutorial with hall of the Novice is STILL optional
glossy flare
It's not for completely new accounts iirc
leaden ginkgo
Where something like "backstab" is pretty simple.
How would they name that with MNK then? "Backpunch"?
glossy flare
Gotta do it before you can do the first dungeon in the story
upper cove
I mean, I know about them. I just forget which one is which because the classes ...
Mapping positionals to certain buttons helps a lot. Im playing on the ps4 with a controller so I have specific buttons to activate rear/flank
leaden ginkgo
Gotta do it before you can do the first dungeon in the story
You don't need to, you talk to the npc and then you can go straight to sastasha without doing the tutorial
glossy flare
Ah well nvm then, I agree with your point 😄
shut panther
How would they name that with MNK then? "Backpunch"?
I mean, I'm not the creative guy here, but even simply putting an arrow of some sort on the ability button would help when learning.
oblique yew
how do i unlock the savage modes of the first 4 eden trials?
shut panther
I guess my point is they're not really intuitive.
glossy flare
I think the game is just bad at teaching people positionals even exist. If that would be handled better then there wouldn't be so many people struggling with the concept I think.
leaden ginkgo
I mean, I'm not the creative guy here, but even simply putting an arrow of some ...
How is that any more descriptive than the tooltip very clearly showing you if it's rear or flank
glossy flare
how do i unlock the savage modes of the first 4 eden trials?
Complete all of them on normal which then unlocks a new blue quest that gives you the savage versions
shut panther
how do i unlock the savage modes of the first 4 eden trials?
Once you've done the normal quests there will be a
oblique yew
Complete all of them on normal which then unlocks a new blue quest that gives yo...
all of the first 4 right? and not the whole eden questline?
shut panther
How is that any more descriptive than the tooltip very clearly showing you if it...
The tooltip isn't easy to review in combat.
leaden ginkgo
Bruh
upper cove
As a beginner, my take is we should always know our abilities first 🤣
pulsar escarp
we should... always read. our skills..
shut panther
It would probably help if the positional was at least highlighted in the tool tip
upper cove
I mean i still have trouble remembering potencies and when to use single target vs AOE, but I know what my skills do
The tool tip tells you. Increased potency from flank or rear
leaden ginkgo
I don't get how you make it more clear than that
glossy flare
Yes but that is exactly my point. The game never tells you that positionals exist and the ability tooltip is verging on cryptic when it comes to explaining the concept of a positional.
For example: How is a new player supposed to know where the flank of a given enemy starts and ends? I know there are indicators but the game never explains them to you.
shut panther
Yes, I read my skills. But it's not difficult to confuse shit like Wheeling thrust and Fang and claw when they're almost the exact same ability except attached to the other combo
leaden ginkgo
There are
upper cove
You just really got to in build it into your muscle memory
Im not sure how easy that is using mouse keyboard but its pretty intuitive on the controller
shut panther
And when I was learning drg it was a constant "uhh, was this the flank or rear one? I don't remember"
leaden ginkgo
I've never heard anyone struggle with DRG positional before
shut panther
Because in terms of actual gameplay the abilities feel incredibly similar
leaden ginkgo
Wild
shut panther
Imagine thinking that positionals are well sign posted
glossy flare
I mean I gotta say, I have the same struggle with DRG. 😄 Not with any other melee dps but DRG positionals are kinda fucking with my brain. May just be me tho
shut panther
Wild indeed
leaden ginkgo
Idk, I never guessed reading tooltips was this hard 🙃
upper cove
Despite that, I must agree that the game doesn't explicitly tell you where are the positionals exactly. But its pretty common sense yea. An enemy only has '4 sides'
shut panther
Wheeling thrust and Fang and claw have literally a single word difference lol
pulsar escarp
as long as it's not an orb lol and even then the bottom indicator should be a bit easier to tell which side is which
shut panther
I wonder why anyone would confuse the two
glossy flare
Yes but where does the back stop and the flank start? Or where does the flank stop and the front start?
Again, each enemy does have indicators but they are never explained to you. And just assuming something is easy to grasp will result in 20% of people not grasping it (conservative guess)
Which is just... eh... I don't want to call it bad design. It's fine, but it could be handled better.
Just make Hall of the Novice mandatory and include a positional explanation, I think we can all agree with that
gritty oracle
What's the total GP on a full landsaint set?
glossy flare
The fact that this image needs to exist is exactly my point. If the game would show you, then someone else wouldn't have had to make that image 😉
I'm not saying it's hard to grasp once someone points you to it but it is easy to miss
leaden ginkgo
Even without the circle its just basic angles
glossy flare
Well yea it is
leaden ginkgo
360 degrees, so the rear positional is 90 degrees
Then the flanks are 90 degrees to the left/right of that
glossy flare
But the game never tells you it is basic angles. How are you supposed to know?
leaden ginkgo
Idk, I assumed it was common sense...
glossy flare
It is for the majority of people
But you're not creating tutorials for the majority of people
My point is: Even if it is easy to get the amount of questions surrounding the topic shows that not everyone does in fact just get it. So adding some tutorial element wouldn't hurt anyone in any way and everyone just wins. 🙂
torpid juniper
What determines how much exp a Retainer gets after a field expedition? I'm level 38 on archer. I sent one as a thurmatuge and learned that they won't level past the level of your job class level. In my case level 1 at the time. I went to level 5 so there will be some growth but I'll keep grinding if I can expect them to hit level 10 or something when they return.
obsidian patio
For quick ventures it’s somewhat based on the item they get back
Otherwise it’s exactly the amount of experience as shown
forest laurel
p sure it's just level if it's a normal venture, the xp is always shown
and based on the item they bring back if it's a quick venture
torpid juniper
Oh didn't even realize they had an exp amount when I sent them.
forest laurel
if you're levelling up a retainer it's best to send them out on ventures to gather specific items.
torpid juniper
This was my first time using retainers.
forest laurel
quick ventures are only good when you've maxed them out
gritty oracle
For quick ventures it’s somewhat based on the item they get back
It has been changed, it depends entirely on the retainer's level. In my experience it's about 1/4 of a level.
torpid juniper
Maybe I'm mistaken. I sent them out on the longer quest. Which one is that?
gritty oracle
The 18 hour one?
forest laurel
it kinda is if you're away for a looong while
gritty oracle
Fair. The 18 hour one can give upwards of 4-5 levels at low levels
torpid juniper
So the shorter ones are better?
forest laurel
yep
torpid juniper
Damn ok. Guess it wouldn't have matter too much since I wasn't gonna be able to do much.
I'll definitely send them out on shorter ones next time.
zinc orbitBOT
torpid juniper
Is the only way to damage with conjurer in early levels by using the stone spell? Or is there a way to use a weak melee?
analog gate
you have melee autoattacks, but because you're a caster it's really really weak