sometimes you dont need those shields that will wear off before dmg comes
#questions-and-help
honest anvil
leaden ginkgo
Detail the scenario, I don't get it
stuck ingot
succor is 180 raw healing potency
225~ potency shield
emergency tactics 405 potency of healing instead of split shield
leaden ginkgo
But why would I ever want a bigger heal, instead of just giving them a shield, I get how the heal works
leaden ginkgo
And it counts as two heals technically, not a single 405
stuck ingot
no. it specifically doesn't stack with AST noc field.
leaden ginkgo
No, to what part?
And also, if I'd be running with an AST, and I'm a SCH why the hell is he in noct stance?
stuck ingot
maybe you need to watch some point of views of people healing
toxic glen
A lot of the time after a roomwide AoE the boss wont AoE for awhile again so it's better just to heal rather than shields thatll wear off that or situations like living dead where you needa heal people to max HP asap
leaden ginkgo
A lot of the time after a roomwide AoE the boss wont AoE for awhile again so it'...
This! Thank you
I just wanted to visualize the situation I'd actually prefer to use it over the heal+shield
stuck ingot
are you also confused about deployment tactics
leaden ginkgo
No that's plain and simple
stuck ingot
alright
ancient whale
i knoiw this is a fairly stupid question but is Gil important in the game?
i dont seem to find to use it other than foods.
leaden ginkgo
Just I had the thought of "well I'm already giving them a shield, I'm healing them cuz they're taking damage.... Why would I do an extra button click to take off the shield, and turn it into a heal that wouldn't give them a bonus On TOP of their max hp if say it overheals"
Didn't make sense in my brain and just needed to know if there were situations that it was preferred to use or viable
honest anvil
try to not overheal
stuck ingot
yeah..
leaden ginkgo
I said if it did
faint flare
If someone already has a shield then emergency tactics is better
Or if you NEED to heal people to full
leaden ginkgo
If someone already has a shield then emergency tactics is better
Yeah, makes sense now
stuck ingot
maintain your chain strat and party won't care about the overhealing
leaden ginkgo
I'm asking due to me wanting to optimize, and I saw it as a useless skill for a while. Was deadass about to take if off my bar
faint flare
Also with shields
stuck ingot
yeah, no, ET adlo is important
leaden ginkgo
But it has a use, it can stay
faint flare
If the shield is going to expire
Then shields are useless
Shields have to absorb damage to be useful
Ie Normal succor after raid wide damage
leaden ginkgo
I saw it more as an "in combat" type of thing where someone's already taking damage, didn't think about the other possibilities
toxic glen
Only skill I would take off SCH is the sleep spell w/e it's called
faint flare
Repose
warm snow
But why would I ever want a bigger heal, instead of just giving them a shield, I...
An extreme in 5.3 inflicts doom and puts the whole party at 1hp. You need to get back to full hp to remove doom.
There's an example
faint flare
Shields are only useful if the full Shield HP is taken, as its a temporary buffer. Raw healing is proper health that never expires
If shields wont be broken then turninh shields into raw HP is better
stuck ingot
aspected ast shields override sch shields they don't stack
leaden ginkgo
An extreme in 5.3 inflicts doom and puts the whole party at 1hp. You need to get...
I understand now, thank you. I don't think I'd use it often enough to justify its 15s CD, but I'll see about that now that I'm looking for those situations we've spoke of
zinc orbitBOT
toxic glen
Lot of the time if Ik Ill miss the succor before the roomwide I'll emergency tactics if the damage is gonna be high
warm snow
There's other examples of similar mechanics sometimes you need hp more than mitigation
leaden ginkgo
aspected ast shields override sch shields they don't stack
I still stick with my sentiment that if you're an AST with a SCH, why are you in noct?
toxic glen
Should add I dont do savage content dont shoot me
faint flare
If there's no back to back AOEs then ET succor will always be a superior way to heal back up than raw succor
leaden ginkgo
Makes total sense
stuck ingot
you seem confused at how people behave. it's not why, it's knowing the interaction. AST shields take priority regardless of sch potency given
so you'll overheal/waste if you don't ET someone if there's noc active
leaden ginkgo
You're right, I shouldn't be questioning the rando AST I get in a duty finder, he's gonna do his own thing
warm snow
Should add I dont do savage content dont shoot me
Death to the filthy casual!
leaden ginkgo
So yeah another use, if I have an AST that just doesn't want to take off his noct stance lol
stuck ingot
celestial intersection, opposition, and neutral sect shields stack with galvanize and seraphic veil
that's your raidwide
leaden ginkgo
Oh, nice to know
stuck ingot
you shield when the party will not survive without shielding
shielding one instance of damage prevents having to heal another
you have no oGCD options for AOE healing
leaden ginkgo
So just not asp helios?
faint flare
And asp benefic
leaden ginkgo
Haven't really put time into my AST so good to know
faint flare
All shields stack except Aspected helios/benefic + galavise
stuck ingot
genuinely I know this noise because I main black mage so I need to know if I need to clear the aoe or if clown ast is about to remove my galvanize so I'll .. ugh... forfeit my leylines
I don't even heal I just raid
leaden ginkgo
So my guy pops asp helios/benefic or he's currently casting one, don't even worry about it, just pop emergency Tactics cuz my next succor or adlo shield isn't gonna count anyways
dull ingot
When do "tank busters" become a thing
faint flare
They're throughout the game
toxic glen
70 they become common
warm snow
Power creep means that they can't really hurt you in arr
faint flare
Most low level "busters" are instant cast and you'll barely notice them
leaden ginkgo
EX Ramuh would like to chat
faint flare
I think the only casted buster outside of trials is like Vine probe in Aurum vale
leaden ginkgo
Not so much a tank buster but for those that don't get the buff, well....
Boom
Got an ilvl 510 laws order . Should I now grind fates or ivalice
Which is faster
faint flare
Do both at once
warm snow
Fates are faster if you're lucky
faint flare
Que while farming fates
warm snow
Just do them while queuing
faint flare
One
leaden ginkgo
Then why even bother
dull ingot
Ah ok, I was debating on playing a tank in either SB or Shadowbringers but I like to do de MSQ without prior knowledge. I'll probs play Shadowbringers as a dps then
leaden ginkgo
FATES are rng?
faint flare
Yes
leaden ginkgo
Wow that’s fuckin rough
faint flare
This isn't baby mode anymore
river valley
Fates aren't too bad. Took me about two to three hours to get all 36 memories
leaden ginkgo
How many memories of each should I need
toxic glen
Ah ok, I was debating on playing a tank in either SB or Shadowbringers but I lik...
Starting tanking in SB would most likely be a bad idea, those dgs hit like a truck
leaden ginkgo
You said 18 per. But there are three kinds of memories it asks
faint flare
Which is 18 per
river valley
It's especially easy if you can find a group that's doing fates. Goes really quickly then
drifting ruin
Starting tanking in SB would most likely be a bad idea, those dgs hit like a tru...
I started tanking in sb, worked out fine
leaden ginkgo
Far East region means?
faint flare
Kugane areas
leaden ginkgo
Right
toxic glen
Not saying its not possible but def a lot harder than the rest
dull ingot
I'll just lvl my tanks later then, btw do SAM/MNK get any special mentions in MSQ? I know Dragoon did in HW but it was imo pretty underwhelming and inconsistent.
faint flare
No
river valley
For the fates, I'd recommend Azim Steppes and the Lochs
faint flare
Only healers get like a single line
leaden ginkgo
I wish I could find a full party.
faint flare
Just blue mage go brrr
leaden ginkgo
No one recruits for that stuff in this channel
river valley
You'll usually just come across other people as you do the fates
leaden ginkgo
Usually
stuck ingot
only time you had a party is when you did blu on patch day when they released the increased cap
allocating time accordingly to what is group/solo content is huge with this game for time sensitive things like that
same deal with the syrcus tower 15x times. those queues were instant for me
drifting ruin
The FATE farming for memories isn't so bad, it's the 15 DRs afterwards that sucks
river valley
It really does suck. At least you can queue for it, unlike castrum
faint flare
But its fun
river valley
But still, too many runs
leaden ginkgo
Since it was announced. What was the way to farm the Moogle tomestones?
faint flare
Blue mage aurum vale as always
Shits cleared in 4mins
That was before the new spells
hoary kayak
ultravib is gonna mess em up
river valley
What level and skills do you need for AV? Still leveling my BLU
clever ether
The "Confirm" button is it used anything else other then for monolog / quests?
boreal storm
UNLIMITED POWA
river valley
I'm still in the "Acorn Bomb and then spam Thousand Needle" phase
faint flare
Enjoy praetorium i guess. Or pvp
tardy patio
im hearing people saying that aurum vale during moogle event is a good way to level - is that true just for 47-50 classes or anything not 80?
leaden ginkgo
I'll see if a 60 BLu can join
faint flare
im hearing people saying that aurum vale during moogle event is a good way to le...
Just those level range
hoary kayak
isnt it meridianum this time, nvm
river valley
You have to do them synced anyway to get the tomestones don't you?
faint flare
Yes
Yes
All items except the namazu earrings are from elsewhere
The fox is from lakshami extreme
Seal is one of the stormblood dungeons
Iirc
river valley
I want to say the Shisui dungeon, but I'm doubting myself now
boreal storm
Magetik predator is from al mhigo, trex is from Eureka boxes
faint flare
Lakshami is piss easy to unsync
analog gate
i got 60+ lakshmi totems before i got the mount tho so
leaden ginkgo
I’m just completed like 5 fates and didn’t get a memory. Wtf is this
faint flare
Rng
gritty oracle
Is there a way to specifically mute the child's voice in e11?
warm snow
All items except the namazu earrings are from elsewhere
Falcon mount is exclusive to this event too btw
faint flare
Unless you were eligible for it before
faint flare
Is there a way to specifically mute the child's voice in e11?
Sadly no, YOU MUST KNOW SHE SENSES A SURGE IN THE AETHER
Maybe turning off voices in general
gritty oracle
F
deep gyro
child
raven burrow
is the aesthetes gear the highest available ilvl (490) for DoH ?
gritty oracle
> child <:rynepat:805853118461640734>
Didn't want to spoil anyone
deep gyro
it's the best in slot yes
neon parrot
So this might be a stupid question, but why is it if Faerie is an NA server, the server time is GMT?
raven burrow
ah i see , thanks
deep gyro
So this might be a stupid question, but why is it if Faerie is an NA server, the...
i learned recently after years of playing server time is the same on all servers
pulsar escarp
GMT is just what they decided would work as an overall time
^^^^^
Yeah lol
I was trying to figure why my ST and LT were the same
deep gyro
i feel like most people on chaos and light might be oblivious to this too since ST and LT are similar so they assume ST is just the server location and not the same for every server
where as if you play on another server you would probably notice the huge discrepancy between local and server times and catch on faster
gritty oracle
I played both on Na and EU. NA uses EST as a "standard" time, EU uses ST
deep gyro
yeah i just meant for people who played exclusively on EU servers and didn't really know much about how people go about things on NA servers
but still good to know for future reference
clever ether
What does the small red/yellow/gray dot upper right on a item in the inventory mean?
faint flare
Dyes
deep gyro
if it exists it means its dyeable
clever ether
Ah
deep gyro
if the circle is empty it means it is currently the default colour scheme
clever ether
Dye-able in that color?
glossy flare
deep gyro
and if it is filled with a colour it is the current dye applied
faint flare
What colour it currently is
oak ice
Any color, the color represents the current dye
deep gyro
in the tooltip it also tells you the name of the current dye applied if any
warm snow
It'll be replaced with a cross if you're glamouring and the cross will be black and red if the glamour isn't dyed. If it is the cross will be the color of the dye
gritty oracle
In E11, do the safe side explosions match up perfectly with the shadows they cast? (aka can you fit between circles if you position right)
on circles
deep gyro
yes
also the lines on the ground
safe colour will only do an explosion where the circles are
unsafe colours will explode in a larger circle aoe indicated by the lines on the ground
deep gyro
ah i see
same thing in savage too
savage just has the circles alternating instead of all on the same side at the end
zinc orbitBOT
warm iron
is there a way to lower striking dummy level so I don't miss?
open coral
Find a lower level dummy
deep gyro
always use them when in doubt
looks like this page isn't fully up to date but it gives the locations of the level 1 dummies so it should still be relevant to what you're looking for
warm iron
thanks
faint flare
!faq communityfinder
zinc orbitBOT
open coral
Everything has cool armor
deep gyro
warrior is a nice class for a new player yes
open coral
Meme-wise, glamour is the true endgame.
clever ether
@proven magnet im new and playing a 13 warrior atm. So far its good fun 🙂
The typical big weapon big damage feeling
faint flare
Unga bunga big axe go smash
edgy sail
Which dps classes have the least party support besides samurai and black mage?
faint flare
They're the same
raven burrow
how do i augment the skysteel tool ? ive crafted a couple of the first item in the tab but still cant craft the 2nd. cant use them either
deep gyro
machinist
faint flare
They both offer 0 support outside of Addle/feint
deep gyro
if you're looking for a ranking :p
edgy sail
Looking for some kind of understanding of the differences between the dps classes
deep gyro
in what aspect?
edgy sail
Because picking one to try is a bit weird when you don't really know what they'll end up feeling like
faint flare
Check pins in here
halcyon radish
can I hide the quests in a duty and have it just display the duty information?
faint flare
For a brief description
edgy sail
I wanted to play machinist but then I found out it has a 10s window you need to fit all your burst in eventually and that seems really hard
deep gyro
a lot of classes are like that
faint flare
It really
deep gyro
if not most
faint flare
Isn't
deep gyro
mch is one of the easiest classes to play imo
faint flare
All jobs have a burst window really they want to cram stuff in
deep gyro
i think feeling is a very personal thing, it's best to try it out because each class will "feel" different to each person
faint flare
Its just a matter of PRESSING YOUR BUTTONS
edgy sail
How about party support dps then?
edgy sail
Well, yeah
deep gyro
they have the lowest numbers that are made up by a huge increase in party damage
also yeah watch that video ^^
halcyon radish
look see it's mainly cus I have this window here and that covers part of it up when it's there, and then my dps window is also covering below it...
also wouldn't be an issue if the notification button was opaque
tbf
deep gyro
theres an option to hide duty list in an instance i think
so you only have your objectives for your current instance instead of all your open quests
halcyon radish
ty
looks much better now <3
I just couldn't find that setting for some reason..? i'd sworn I saw it before.
edgy sail
Is ninja still considered a party support dps btw?
deep gyro
its not really what it is considered
proven magnet
why do i have a green leaf over my head
faint flare
All dps are dps
deep gyro
thats irrelevant
faint flare
why do i have a green leaf over my head
To show that you're new
proven magnet
o
deep gyro
it does high dmg and has strong utility
edgy sail
Ok yeah, got it
deep gyro
i would say it has the lowest ratio of people wanting it in a party vs people that play it
at least in end game raiding
twilit arch
based on what exactly
deep gyro
i'm not saying it's hard facts, just a general feeling i have from my experience, so don't quote me :(
the number of logs uploaded on fflogs for ninja seems kind of low compared to how much people like to have ninjas in their savage parties
not that it will heavily affect anyones ability to find a party
just wanted to put that out there too
twilit arch
questions and help is not really to throw out your opinion without something backing it up. feelings are fine and all, and while nin does have the 4th least amount savage parses
dark copper
so essentially fflogs are somewhat biased towards higher end parsers, since generally people with decent DPS will be uploading their fflog?
twilit arch
its not really the best metric anyway given that people are able to play all jobs on one character
deep gyro
sure, i understand that, it's probably irrelevant for someone who's just starting out the game anyway
in my personal experience i wouldnt say it is heavily biased since people who play with those players with "decent" dps who upload the logs will have logs uploaded too
but yeah i can see how it can affect it a bit
i'm not sure about the statistics on this but when i used to frequent party finder more often in eden's verse, i would say if i didn't upload the logs myself, there would almost always be someone else who uploaded them
which means if you had a bad performance, it will be uploaded whether you like it or not
maybe things have changed or things are different to this on other data centres
keen oriole
Hi all
Just going through all the pins but i wanted to ask if any classes/jobs have disadvantages/advantages over others?
twilit arch
all jobs are viable, and the main scenario quest is made so its easily completed by them all
healers and tanks generally have quicker dungeon queues than dps
keen oriole
ah nice, and how about for late game co-op content?
twilit arch
all jobs are able to clear end-game content
deep gyro
you can clear all savage and ultimate raids with any party composition
keen oriole
nice, thanks
deep gyro
as long as you have one of each role
agile laurel
no jobs have synergy outside of bleeding edge minmaxing
keen oriole
and people dont prefer certain classes when making "dungeon queues"?
agile laurel
no
deep gyro
not at all
twilit arch
for dungeons, definitely not
keen oriole
i see, how mmos have changed lol
deep gyro
i think the only time it matters is when you're trying to get world rankings for speed runs
twilit arch
they're casual content
and most people are just going to use the duty finder to queue for them
keen oriole
im assuming for pvp thats when differences arise?
agile laurel
pvp isn't a thing
agile laurel
pvp community is so incredibly small
keen oriole
interesting 😮
deep gyro
you can still get the pvp queue to pop though
agile laurel
yeah
zinc orbitBOT
agile laurel
only difference for pvp is what's considered hardest to play
deep gyro
it's not like 100% dead but it's hard to get it to pop during non-peak hours on my dc (which looks like yours too)
twilit arch
frontlines is pretty whatever in terms of comp
agile laurel
or easiest to burst with
deep gyro
yeah that would be the best thing to do, you can just switch whenever you like
keen oriole
im gonna watch a couple more vids on what to do before i start, aswell as going through the pinned
but ill ask here if i have any more qs
slate arrow
when do i buy gear in ShB?
What's your current item level?
oblique yew
400
deep gyro
what is your character level?
oblique yew
80
oblique yew
my quest lvl is 76
oblique yew
i cant do my class quest until i have finished ShB
deep gyro
oh i see
hot eagle
can't get it yet only unlocks at lvl 79/80 msq, for now spam dungeons for gear or use the hq gear you get as rewards
deep gyro
did you get free gear from msq?
oblique yew
yes
deep gyro
did you use the coffers?
twilit arch
if your msq is 76, you should be using the gear from msq
oblique yew
but those only take my ilvl to 405
hot eagle
Its normal the first 80 gear you get is 430
slate arrow
You can't get 430 gear until you near the end of the MSQ
deep gyro
415 is the max ilevel you can get before level 80
slate arrow
418 is the maximum before that
oblique yew
dungeons are not a problem for me, my problem are the regular trash mobs in the open
oblique yew
i seem to take quite a beating from just 2 enemies
oak talon
does anybody experience this? i have pretty stable connection when i play another games but it's pretty laggy on tonberry now. ignore the ping, i haven't turned on VPN
oblique yew
does anybody experience this? i have pretty stable connection when i play anothe...
it's been laggy for me for the past 2 days. on ramuh
keen oriole
Can someone explain positionals?
If its dealing more damage depending on where you are hitting the boss, doesnt that mean some classes have disadvantages? Eg monks over samurai?
twilit arch
all melee have positionals
and also all melee have some way of being able to negate positional requirements if they end up in situation where they can't hit rear/flank for a time
positionals are basically, certain skills will either deal bonus damage or generate that job's resource (namely kinki for samurai) when you hit the rear or flank of an enemy
comparing within melee, sam doesn't necessarily have a bigger advantage over monk just because they have less positionals. especially since monk has two ways of negating positionals, sam only has one.
leaden ginkgo
So
Is there any time that Solemn Trinity, the guildhest, pops?
twilit arch
good players are going to make proper use of the skill (true north) to ensure they get the best damage possible
deep gyro
it also depends on your tanks ability to keep the boss still and have the rear/flank not be in an area where it is unsafe to stand
twilit arch
within dps as whole, technically ranged has a slightly advantage over melee because they don't have positionals to deal with but they have their own cons when it comes to that. Physical ranged being able to freely move and not have to deal with positionals, often have lower damage than the other jobs but they also tend to bring utility which also plays into lower dmg than other dps
casters have their cast bars as their con
@leaden ginkgo not really, almost no one does guildhests anymore espcially solemn trinity
keen oriole
it also depends on your tanks ability to keep the boss still and have the rear/f...
This is what i was worried about
gritty oracle
Does your ilvl snapshot when queuing for roulettes?
keen oriole
Im assuming there are bosses who charge or may jump/be invulnerable during fights
deep gyro
to be fair there's a lot of things that depend on other party members
a lot of classes*
keen oriole
Guess thats why you need a good party lol
deep gyro
healers performance is affected by how much unnecessary damage is taken by the party
anyone can get murdered by another player if they fail certain mechanics
what i mentioned was just one example in a specific scenario
keen oriole
Thanks Kill and mila, yeah that made sense
leaden ginkgo
<@456226577798135808> not really, almost no one does guildhests anymore espciall...
Needing to do it at least once in Crystal for my free account. .x . Weh
deep gyro
the problem in general (of your party members being able to affect your performance in a negative way) applies every class, not just melees
twilit arch
🤷♀️ just have to sit in queue and hope to get mentors/new players who don't know better
its not like guidlhests are required for anything
keen oriole
the problem in general (of your party members being able to affect your perform...
Oh sure, I just wanted to bring up melee's before bc of the video in pinned talking about positonals
deep gyro
yeah it's great to have a good understanding of it first
even if people grief you haha
twilit arch
!faq positionals
zinc orbitBOT
keen oriole
I misunderstood his segment on the monk tbh i thought he meant monks have more positional disadvantages in comparison to other melee dps classes
twilit arch
most of the time you wanna try and keep yourself at the ass corners
so you don't have to move much to do positionals
keen oriole
Yeah i figured as much
twilit arch
monk has the most positionals of all melee
keen oriole
Provided the tank keeps the boss facing him?
twilit arch
every one of the gcd single target skills have a positional
keen oriole
gcd?
deep gyro
yeah a good tank will keep the boss still
twilit arch
global cooldown
deep gyro
(whenever possible)
keen oriole
ahh
i get ya
man its annoying when games implement flank damage but i guess it does force you to pay attention more haha
im coming from mmos where i didnt have to worry about dishing out more damage
but rather positioning squishies at the flank for obvious reasons
not bc it gave my dps more damage
if that makes sense
so this will be a nice learning curve
thin comet
hi hi. can i take beast tribe quest with 1 class and turn in with another? ie taking ananta quest w/ gnb and turning in with dancer
thin comet
ohh okay thankfully i havent take it yet xD
deep gyro
you will need to abandon it and take it again
thin comet
thanks! 😄
keen oriole
ok guys
next question 🥴
if you have a bad healer in the party, and they die - would you rather have a summoner or rez mage present
Or is it gg if the bad healer dies anyway
deep gyro
depends on the content
savage i would want red mage
any other content it doesnt rly matter
twilit arch
tbh doesn't matter
keen oriole
savage is a difficulty or a certain boss?
twilit arch
difficulty
deep gyro
savage is the difficulty of the end game raids in this game
keen oriole
which has best drop rates im guessing
deep gyro
but as they said it doesn't matter too much and its situational, for example in my raid group my red mage doesn't auto raise whenenver someone dies where as in some other groups the red mage will do that
savage raids gives you the best gear available in the game at any given time
keen oriole
interesting it doesnt matter too much
ive always been attracted to summoner/pet classes
so knowing i wont be preferred less than a red mage (for rezzing at least) is good
deep gyro
but theoretically, like on paper red mage should give more utility when it comes to raising but theres so many other factors involved in different situations that it's not just what works on paper
twilit arch
smn brings pretty good dmg
twilit arch
with decent utility so shouldn't have a hard time finding a group
keen oriole
no point having all these great qualities if im rarely able to use em lol
nice
also, do cosmetics in this game affect the summons?
boreal storm
Nope
keen oriole
idk about being forced to see the same summons forever lol
twilit arch
there is an glamour command for the egis
keen oriole
ah
scarlet arrow
no job is significantly better or worse than any other job that it would affect your ability to find a group for content
deep gyro
unless the group already has your class
twilit arch
but they're pretty limited atm
keen oriole
good to hear
twilit arch
so you either have the normal egi look or carbuncles
that said you will also have two different summons as part of your rotation
twilit arch
that's the name for the summoner summons
terse roost
The magic rats that work with summoners.
keen oriole
ill have a look at them then
boreal storm
Small Titan, ifrit, Garuda
scarlet arrow
there are mechanics that discourage duplicate jobs and many groups prefer dps split evenly between melee or ranged
deep gyro
keen oriole
thanks all!
deep gyro
i wouldn't say evenly split between melee or ranged
deep gyro
as long as you have one of each role you won't be affected
terse roost
That's waht the channels for, no apologies needed
deep gyro
in fact a lot of savage groups moved to having two casters one melee and one phys ranged
deep gyro
you don't lose anything by putting one caster on a traditionally melee spot
scarlet arrow
the point is play what looks cool 🙂
deep gyro
yeah for sure
i was just mainly talking about savage if they ever wanted to get into that
keen oriole
oh
no im definitely wanting to know about savage
ive played games where classes look great and i love them, but noone ever wants them in a party for end game stuff lol
scarlet arrow
that's not a thing in FFXIV
deep gyro
you won't ever have that problem in this game
keen oriole
i keep hearing that, music to my ears
just trying to catch you guys out haha
right so - cosmetics in this game are called.. glamour..
well
scarlet arrow
yes
deep gyro
even if you play the "worst" class on paper, no one (in their right mind) will reject you based on that alone
scarlet arrow
and the long explanation is that the FFXIV devs have intentionally sacrificed any semblance of job customization in order to maintain job balance. there are no talents, specs, builds, legendaries, etc. that give you more buttons to push or change what your buttons do
deep gyro
!faq glamour
zinc orbitBOT
fresh wing
do i have to log into my friends steam account if they want me to help them level up their character if they are on that platform?
deep gyro
i'm not sure if account sharing is allowed in this game
quick forge
LUL
deep gyro
can anyone confirm/deny?
quick forge
ofc its not but who cares
deep gyro
i never looked it up
fresh wing
lol
keen oriole
well
quick forge
not like you actually going to get banned for it and even if u get banned u just tell support that u were out travelling or something like that
keen oriole
it seems the egi's im allowed to have are limited
twilit arch
account sharing is 100% against ToS
proud willow
if you don't have 2FA turned on, the account usually locks when you log in from another IP
keen oriole
thats what i was worried about 😦
twilit arch
correct
oblique yew
how are the side quests? not the
, the regular ! ones
twilit arch
so use whichever fairie looks prettier to you
deep gyro
i just brought it up in case some asshole here tries to report you or whatever
quick forge
wouldn't do anythign anyway
twilit arch
regular ones are mainly there for lore/story, exp is pretty meh @oblique yew
gloomy ice
Some give free gear later but during ARR it’s kind of rare
proud willow
AFAIK, your account is not tied to a particular Steam ID so there is no need to be logged into the correct Steam account
oblique yew
regular ones are mainly there for lore/story, exp is pretty meh <@!4281847558472...
dont care about exp. i just wanted to know if the story brhind the quest is good or not. wanted to know if it was just some menial kill 3 things/ fetch quests
twilit arch
I personally like most of them since it helps gives more perspective to that zone
keen oriole
so supposedly summoners getting more summons has been a meme since 2.0?
twilit arch
but the quest themselves aren't really going to be any different from the usual fare of questing
oblique yew
these type of quests right?
twilit arch
egi glamours are pretty much on the back burner at this point yeah... @keen oriole
twilit arch
what i mean is that the kind of questing you do for the msq, is basically going to be what you do for the side quests
they're just smaller/more condense stories really
keen oriole
also, the utility/buffs offered from respective melee dps classes for the team, will be exclusive to them right?
a white mage wont be able to give those same buffs?
deep gyro
no they wont
keen oriole
thanks
deep gyro
feint is available to all melee classes
keen oriole
ah..
deep gyro
but that's all
glacial isle
For the Esoteric Moogle items, can you get items that are normally obtained in SB/ShB from the Moogles if you’re on the Trial?
keen oriole
thanks
deep gyro
there are some cross class skills but not many
twilit arch
so long as its on the list for the event, you can buy it regardless of whether you've got that expac or not
with a few caveats iirc
well, not this time atleast
versed star
I am curious whats the average que time for heaven in high I been waiting for an hour+ for 11-20 and still havent found a party
deep gyro
i think most people are doing palace of the dead instead :/
versed star
But isnt hoh better exp?
strange coral
That's normal unfortunately since people only do that set of floors once to unlock the "start at 21" option
deep gyro
palace of the dead drops tokens for the final upgrade for the latest relic weapon
strange coral
HOH requires level 61+
versed star
Soo then should I keep waiting in my que for 11-20?
strange coral
POTD accepts lower levels, so for exp people do POTD up to 61 and then move to HOH
Keep waiting or try again during peak hours for the datacenter's region (if it's not already)
versed star
Hmm well alright I imagine it isnt too soloable as a dps?
versed star
What gear I need to solo it?
deep gyro
i haven't done hoh for a while but if it's anything like potd your gear is irrelevant
strange coral
No gear requirements, just aetherpool.
versed star
Thats what I mean
deep gyro
you can wear whatever gear you want
versed star
What lvl of aetherpool I need to solo
deep gyro
oh right
i'm not sure but you can just go in and try it and see how it goes
you don't lose anything if you fail
versed star
Eh xD
deep gyro
its either that or stay in queue for another hour
or wait a bit and hope more people jump in
clever ether
A question. Im level 17 warrior, have tomahawk but cant use it as it says I havent learned it yet. Tho its supposed to be a 15 abilioty
deep gyro
do your class quests
a lot of your skills are locked behind them
they also give you good exp
boreal storm
Never not do class quests
peak quest
thats sad, you cant create new character in full server with xp boost
leaden ginkgo
How much time does it take for a person to go from 30 to 50 in PoTD.
deep gyro
hm what do you mean by the "."?
was it meant to be part of your edit or a typo?
i haven't done any <70 leveling for a long time but from memory it didn't take TOO long
someone else might have a more exact answer
keen oriole
Data centres will act as the server I play on?
deep gyro
data centre is the general group of players you can play with in instances
keen oriole
If i decide to move to my ps4 in future, will i be able to play with my NA friends if i pick an EU data centre/server now
deep gyro
server is like a more local thing
you can change servers and dcs
i think it costs money
keen oriole
Oh lol..
torpid juniper
This may sound dumb, but is there anyway to deactivate the music when you're riding a chocobo? I don't have an issue with it but sometimes I'd like to hear the open world theme lol
deep gyro
someone mentioned $18
keen oriole
Damn
deep gyro
yeah there is
proud willow
yes, there's a checkbox for "play music while mounted"
deep gyro
its in character config iirc
twilit arch
https://i.redd.it/sc13fi62ag941.png @torpid juniper
keen oriole
Expensive to play with NA friends if in EU
torpid juniper
Thanks so much.
deep gyro
i always wondered if you can create characters on multiple dcs in one account
you can right?
proud willow
You can
keen oriole
Btw, does that £14 unlock my charcters to be used in all servers? or just a 1 time migration to another server?
deep gyro
just a one time migration
deep gyro
if you wanna migrate back you need to pay again
keep in mind
they announced that you can "visit" other dc's with the next expansion
but the exact details of what a visit entails hasn't been confirmed
leaden ginkgo
I mean you still have to buy the game and expansion on PS4 again
deep gyro
only speculations
leaden ginkgo
So this ain’t much
keen oriole
true, just a shock as ive never had to do something like this in my 15 years of gaming
are there still regional servers on the ps version too?
leaden ginkgo
Same thing with all big MMOs
deep gyro
they all play together
leaden ginkgo
PS4 and PC full cross play and cross save. Same servers
deep gyro
pc players and ps players
proud willow
Playstation and PC are completely integrated, there are no separate servers for them
and Mac
keen oriole
mm ok
deep gyro
gaming on macs 
keen oriole
thanks
deep gyro
are you on free trial or have you bought the game? just so we know the scope of what is available to you for any future questions you might have.
clever cave
No youre fine
scarlet arrow
all three datacenters have plenty of people in them
faint flare
!faq worldpick
zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
See here
deep gyro
Just installing rn
if u get stuck with any in game stuff i might be able to help you since you're on chaos
keen oriole
Chaos?
faint flare
The data centre
keen oriole
Is Chaos the EU region?
Im still installing lol, so didnt know how you'd know i was anything
keen oriole
deep gyro
check your roles in this server :p
keen oriole
That gif is semi arrogant, thanks Vinyl haha minus batemans arrogance
deep gyro
we the same colour dawg
keen oriole
we the same colour dawg
Ahhh haha
faint flare
Unless there's friends somewhere
wintry chasm
^
keen oriole
I didnt get the symbols when i first joined the server
wintry chasm
Otherwise preferred server is really beneficial
faint flare
Data centre choice matters as everything is cross server within the data centre
keen oriole
Forgot I had to pick one lol, but yeah that makes sense
proven magnet
dammit i wanted to play ff14 first time guess not :feelsbad
back to league of legends 😦
faint flare
That takes like 3 seconds
proven magnet
o
hollow violet
Is there any detriment to idling in a safe area or should I try to log off if I'm going to be gone for more than a few minutes
faint flare
It basically to stop servers overloading
proven magnet
i chose this class btw https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/warrior/
it said warrior but.. all i see is maurader?
faint flare
Warrior is the upgrade
proven magnet
is warrior a good strong class ?
wintry chasm
Yeah class meta isn't a thing
faint flare
Especially in the tank jobs
Tanks are within like 2% of each other, which is a few hundred that normal people wont notice
oblique yew
i still dont understand why urianger speaks the way he does
simple atlas
Cause he’s cool
faint flare
Because he'th ish too cooleth for schooleth
crude nacelle
is there more ex that give 2 tokens per clear? like hades?
wintry chasm
i still dont understand why urianger speaks the way he does
Lore reason is that he is literally super unsocial and he always reads books instead and...he developed this habit of speaking like that
oblique yew
Lore reason is that he is literally super unsocial and he always reads books ins...
i can see this happening
twilit arch
nope, just give different values for rep
deep gyro
yeah its hard
lone junco
:(
deep gyro
compared to some other classes i would say so
but
by the time you get to that point
you will get used to it
edgy mantle
should I buy new equip from traders whenever I can during leveling?
deep gyro
dont let that discourage you
faint flare
Rotationally it isn't hard
Its just working around the fight
And using your movement tools properly
lone junco
Ok thanks a lot
wintry chasm
Honestly the difficulty is super overblown
Hell you get so many movement abilities as a black mage
lone junco
Someone said i nees to know every map cuz of the groubd aoes
And as blm i cant move so often
deep gyro
you just get punished a lot harder in terms of dps if you mess up
faint flare
You can be very mobile at 80
wintry chasm
That's a bit exaggerated but sure when you do a fight you would want to find the safest spaces to sit for as long as possible
You CAN move just not constantly
deep gyro
and your movement spells are also dps gains
faint flare
You have two xenoglossys, triplecast, swiftcast, sharpcast for procs, Aetherical mani/between the lines
zinc orbitBOT
open coral
It's also fairly easy to learn when you have time to stand still for a bit and when you need to be using a movement ability.
deep gyro
so at the highest level you need to consider when to use them for movement and if you can get away with using them purely for dps gain
but its not a huge deal in general content
open coral
Just do the fights and practice your rotation. You'll get a feel for things as you go.
lone junco
Ok thanks guys
deep gyro
if you get anxious practicing in fights i highly recommend using a striking dummy to memorise your rotation once you hit 80
(goes for any class)
striking dummy practice is underrated
dark copper
Solo unsync'ed boss fights are a great way to practice since it's more live combat and you learn to dodge AOEs whilst doing your rotation
proven magnet
just started the game doing random quests around town is that normal?
dark copper
Main story quests are the most important 
proven magnet
lol
dark copper
Red means you can't do it yet
proven magnet
o
slate arrow
red means you need to unlock a prereq
dark copper
It will turn blue later on when you advance further
slate arrow
in this case, you need to do your level 10 class quest
deep gyro
usually it should tell you what you need to be able to accept the quest (if you click on the quest)
slate arrow
since this quest is to unlock an alternate class
proven magnet
class quest so that means i become a warrior at level 10?
slate arrow
no
proven magnet
?
slate arrow
jobs are an advancement at level 30
proven magnet
o
dark copper
If you change class you usually reset back to level 1, unless you are taking astrologian, dark knight, samurai, red mage, gunbreaker or dancer
slate arrow
you should not be using classes past level 30
proven magnet
if im a warrior and get max level to 80 can i make a dark knight then? and does my gear transfer over?
deep gyro
not your weapons, but everything else
winged fossil
Solo unsync'ed boss fights are a great way to practice since it's more live comb...
How do unsynced and undersized work in terms of which levels can go in, and how much will you be annhilated, and can you run dungeons for exp slash actual experience?
deep gyro
unsynced duties give no experience
winged fossil
ah
deep gyro
you will get the gear drops though
winged fossil
oh
slate arrow
How do unsynced and undersized work in terms of which levels can go in, and how ...
Any, depends on your level, unsycned duties dont give rewards outside of gear
deep gyro
you will get duty completion status from it though
winged fossil
okay so actually in some circs not a bad idea.
deep gyro
so if you need to do something to progress in a quest you can just do it unsync
wintry chasm
Any, depends on your level, unsycned duties dont give rewards outside of gear
Outside of chests to be more specific
winged fossil
oh and if there's a lvl 50 dungeon quest i need to do but i'm a 70 now, i could try it solo
(is that gap reasonable...?)
slate arrow
probably
winged fossil
thanks all.
winged fossil
thats a good idea!
i have a lot of dungeons to tick off that were not MSQ (or hard version opened up) and i want to get them done.
deep gyro
if you have trouble doing it solo you can maybe use pf to find another person to do it with you unsync
proven magnet
so these quests are important am I missing anything major if i only do these ones? 
???
slate arrow
your class and job quests
proven magnet
i hate questing in games but i love dungeons and exloring and making my char stronger i also do love leveling
but quests bore me but i do like story if its good
slate arrow
below 60 the vast majority of you skills are locked behind your class and job quests
please do them 🙂
proven magnet
o
deep gyro
is most important, then i would say (class quests coming from your class guild leader being more important than other blue quests)
blissful lava
clever ether
Do you loose anything from dying?
slate arrow
besides gear durability, no
clever ether
Tyvm for information!
deep gyro
in certain instances you do in end game
slate arrow
(and gear can't break, just reach 0% which makes it effectively 0 stats. Use a mender to repair your gear.)
deep gyro
but generally no
winged fossil
my last (second...) question for the group is: if you buy the level boost for a job, is the armour you get job specific (like BLM only, for example), or would it fit lvl 70 SMN too? i see the accessories are general. well, healing/casting coffers etc. is the armour you get available to see anywhere and is it 'good' stuff? i have a million jobs being slowly levelled and it is driving me a little nuts.
slate arrow
my last (second...) question for the group is: if you buy the level boost for a ...
it's the best tomestone gear at the level yes
dark copper
Do you loose anything from dying?
If you die in Eureka, you lose some Eurekan exp
deep gyro
my last (second...) question for the group is: if you buy the level boost for a ...
if you look at the tooltip it tells you which classes can equip it
slate arrow
scavan casting works for all casters
deep gyro
most gear will fit cross role
peak quest
How do you swap specs during leveling ? Do you also keep your main lvl cuz i see when i click C different levels
deep gyro
only artifact gear and weapons are job specific
slate arrow
How do you swap specs during leveling ? Do you also keep your main lvl cuz i see...
just unlock the class from and equip the weapon of the class/job you want to swap to
winged fossil
is the armour 'scaven casting' as well for the casting job boosts? i think the site used to say which armour you'd get but now only shows the accessories coffer and tooltip.
deep gyro
only artifact gear and weapons are job specific
and drg/nin left side
slate arrow
Classes and Jobs are hard locked into their 'role' so if you want to change spec you have to change jobs
clever ether
If you die in Eureka, you lose some Eurekan exp
I havent even left start zone. No idea what Eureakan is 😄
slate arrow
is the armour 'scaven casting' as well for the casting job boosts? i think the s...
The gear is automatically equipped when you use the job skip item
winged fossil
cos obv i have some special SMN only type fancy armour and wondered if that was the gear at boost.
pulsar escarp
should point out class/job roles have stories so they'd be fun to run if you're interested in story
gritty oracle
How did people clear A8S when it was current? Specifically the vortexer self-detonate. Even with a 8-group of mostly 80s, it usually got through 2/3 of its cast and when we went as 6, we actually failed it once.
deep gyro
How did people clear A8S when it was current? Specifically the vortexer self-det...
i heard this was the savage fight that took the longest to clear in the history of savage
slate arrow
How did people clear A8S when it was current? Specifically the vortexer self-det...
very carefully
dark copper
I havent even left start zone. No idea what Eureakan is 😄
Eureka is an instanced zone in which you unlock after beating Stormblood. Don't worry about it right now then.
winged fossil
The gear is automatically equipped when you use the job skip item
yeah, so can't preview it beforehand. i will have a little google to see what you get equipped with.
gritty oracle
very carefully
what does that even mean
slate arrow
(How you prog current savage, a lot of trial and error.)
wintry chasm
so these quests are important am I missing anything major if i only do these one...
You should 100% do all the quests excluding the other class unlock or leve unlocks which are very obvious and easy to tell what they are. Shit like raids, literally every optional dungeon, trial series, and several really useful system unlocks are behind
peak quest
@slate arrow can u check dms
slate arrow
I don't use DMs, here is fine.
winged fossil
ok, i seeeee. so basically if you boosted WHM and AST, you'd end up with duplicate armor and accessories.
gritty oracle
(How you prog current savage, a lot of trial and error.)
When Vortexer appears, it immediately casts self-detonate, it has like a 4-5s cast and wipes the party instantly if it completes
winged fossil
as it's the scaeven augmented which is not job specific.
slate arrow
actually, you wouldn't be able to use the second boost since Scaevan is unique
you can't have two Scaevan sets in the same inventory
(except for rings)
scarlet hinge
When is the regalia event supposed to come back
faint flare
The bots in A8s only denotate when they're the only one left
faint flare
When is the regalia event supposed to come back
No one knows
slate arrow
When is the regalia event supposed to come back
We don't know, they haven't announced anything yet.
shadow skiff
where does one go ig they are completly new to game for info
slate arrow
!faq newplayertups
zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
!faq newplayertips
slate arrow
!faq newplayertips
zinc orbitBOT
shadow skiff
thanks
cold path
Im trying to find the Tackleking's set from the scrip exchange but all i see isthe lvl 50 trailblazer's set, how do i unlock them
winged fossil
so it would either not let me do the second boost if i chose (for example) SCH and AST, or boost me but only give the platinum and weapons
wintry chasm
When is the regalia event supposed to come back
They said they wanted to rerun it late last year but the schedule was too busy and I still assume they plan on doing it might might be a run up to Endwalker
slate arrow
no, you wouldn't be able to use the boost
until you delete the gear or place it in your chocobo saddlebag or retainer
winged fossil
ah so you can in effect only boost one of each job type.
slate arrow
no
peak quest
do i lose something if i swap classes during early leveling ? and which quest unlocks the new class
im doing the main storyline rn
winged fossil
thank you s much for these dumb questions.
slate arrow
no besides having to level it from 1(for classes), and from the guild unlocks the class, and then you just equip the weapon to swap
gritty oracle
Im trying to find the Tackleking's set from the scrip exchange but all i see ist...
Iitc the -king set is in Rhalg's reach
shadow skiff
how do i look at gear that i got for quest rewards and equip ot
slate arrow
open your armoruy chest or character page
then just click the slot of the gear you want to swap
dark copper
It's a lot to take in in the beginning
jagged crow
is there any way to get more bedroom items? 100 is really really low
I currently have a small house, if I get a med does that increase bedroom item limit too?
dark copper
It increases your total furnishing limit
slate arrow
use bigger pieces, and less props
there's plenty of well decorated apartments
You just need to be smarter with what you use
desert dagger
I should get an apartment :/
jagged crow
I was asking if buying a bigger fc house increased private quarters space
but I got my answer
soft meteor
hiii ! i think this is a little bit of a silly question but i'm new to tanking and mmorpgs in general. im having trouble with how to do large pulls in dungeons and stuff and im afraid of flame :c do i just spam aoe and run and hope they follow me to the next group of enemies? 😔
soft meteor
oh yes. i shoudlve added that lojdkfhkds
slate arrow
in dungeons adds slap harder than the boss
soft meteor
tank stance always on. im just scared dps pulls agro before i run
cold path
Iitc the -king set is in Rhalg's reach
Thanks!
dark copper
hiii ! i think this is a little bit of a silly question but i'm new to tanking a...
Just make sure you have aggro on the mobs before proceeding to the next pull
slate arrow
usually one AoE combo is enough
if DPS pulls aggro just have them run to you
or use your ranged attack
dark copper
If the enemy list has green dots, then you haven't aggroed every enemy
soft meteor
shield bash and provoke right ?
faint flare
Shield lob
soft meteor
i have really tiny hands so all the abilities im a little slow
dark copper
You want the enemy list to be full of red dots
faint flare
Bash is basically useless
slate arrow
all good
jagged crow
I just think it's dumb we have to find bigger props to make it look furnished, I just want lots of minute details @slate arrow
slate arrow
¯_(ツ)_/¯
soft meteor
well thank u hehe. i just hit lvl 50 and im in heavensword so i feel like people are expecting me to have my stuff together by now but im still nervous baby tank
slate arrow
It's how the game has always been. People are able to work around the limitations so
leaden ginkgo
I know ingame gambling is okay, what about raffles? Don't they follow under the same category?
jagged crow
I am pretty sure as long as it doesn't involve irl money it's good
pulsar escarp
well thank u hehe. i just hit lvl 50 and im in heavensword so i feel like peopl...
they probably DO but just keep saying you're new and they'll get it. I'm lvl 60 and still don't have shit together. I doubt I even will at 70
zinc orbitBOT
proven magnet
Do low level dungeons need tanks I can’t solo them like some mmos right?
faint flare
Yes
Every dungeon needs tanks
You can't solo dungeons unless you're vastly over levelled
proven magnet
I never tanked in ff14 I hope I don’t get kicked
spark cradle
whats the best instance to level up once you hit 60?
faint flare
Gubal
spark cradle
im assuming hard?
faint flare
No
slate arrow
normal
proven magnet
Oh thank god how long does 🌱 last me?
pulsar escarp
I never tanked in ff14 I hope I don’t get kicked
remember to say you're new!
spark cradle
oh ok
pulsar escarp
as well!
spark cradle
Oh thank god how long does 🌱 last me?
ages
slate arrow
level 59 gives more EXP than a level 60 dungeon
faint flare
Until you start Shadowbringers
pulsar escarp
people like sprouts that talk and ask for help
faint flare
So basically 80% of the game
pulsar escarp
Oh thank god how long does 🌱 last me?
yeah until end of stormblood or so
spark cradle
people like sprouts that talk and ask for help
yes because then i don't have to assume i won't get reported for giving advice
pulsar escarp
yes because then i don't have to assume i won't get reported for giving advice
I guess... that's the sad truth
spark cradle
yes its why i let most tanks act like headasses near end of ARR and not tell them anything
pulsar escarp
I always try and say I'm new and any guidance and tips are welcome
spark cradle
the last instance i actively gave help the dude was like "you're a healer i know my class more" literally clocked in 1600 hours as a PLD including savages
rough fossil
So I was thinking about ways to get the friend referral rewards and saw there’s a reddit page for those and was wondering if those actually get any hits?
rough fossil
Seems quite random - there are so many
faint flare
Throw it to the wind now and then and someone takes it
rough fossil
Is it considered bad form to copy and paste someone else’s write-up with instructions and all?
faint flare
Who really cares tbh
rough fossil
Lol ok
winged fossil
I just did a rouletter as a lvl 62 SMN which is not something i play much of and announced at the beginning 'first time doing this dungeon and i'm an anxious healer so please bear with me' lol. someone else replied 'FULL SEND' which i do not understand what that means but no one gave me any grief, and i died once and the tank died once but i rezed him and it ran very quickly. so i figure announcing it is okay.
remote lintel
you mean scholar
winged fossil
i wish i god i was confidnet at healing because i enjoy it so much but oh boy do i feel stress. i can't even try tanking.
SCH yes sorry
peak quest
can i change class to rogue in ul'dah ? cant find the rogue guild there
remote lintel
scholar is harder than ast and whm imo
proven magnet
so people will be nice to me with that icon over my head? lol
faint flare
Yes
remote lintel
yes
peak quest
@faint flare how i can move to there from ul dah
proven magnet
👼🏽
remote lintel
do the msq
faint flare
Do the story
winged fossil
so people will be nice to me with that icon over my head? lol
people are very nice
modest igloo
the only way to get over anxiety is to do it. if you say you're new most people will help you out