#questions-and-help | Final Fantasy XIV | Page 1138

oblique yew Mar 5, 2021, 9:47 AM

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i will play it

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 9:47 AM

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you should continue playing

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yeah

remote lintel Mar 5, 2021, 9:47 AM

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they tell you like

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5 minutes in

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 9:48 AM

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how do you tell which ground effect is good and which one kills you cuz im doing the kupo fight and I'm running out of things I shouldnt and vice versa

remote lintel Mar 5, 2021, 9:48 AM

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friendly aoes are solid blue

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 9:49 AM

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it was like a massive pulsing orange circle

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 9:49 AM

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limit breaks and friendly AoEs are solid blue instead of solid orange

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 9:49 AM

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that I thought was the explosion radius

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 9:49 AM

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orange bad

remote lintel Mar 5, 2021, 9:49 AM

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orange is always bad

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 9:49 AM

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except for stack marker

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 9:49 AM

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but it wasnt that other kind of orange

slate arrow Mar 5, 2021, 9:49 AM

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if it's not blue, it'll probably kill you

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 9:49 AM

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https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Common_Mechanics

oblique yew Mar 5, 2021, 9:50 AM

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dont pulsing orange with arrow mean that you have to group up?

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 9:50 AM

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king mog has one exceptional aoe marker which is the pld's purple ohko aoe

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 9:50 AM

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a dragoon was standing in it and nothing happened to him

slate arrow Mar 5, 2021, 9:50 AM

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(Orange is the standard AoE effect for enemies, but later on there's a lot more 'unique' mechanics which use unique AoE effects.)

oblique yew Mar 5, 2021, 9:50 AM

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and the pulsing circle orange means you have to move as far away as possible?

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 9:50 AM

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no

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wait

remote lintel Mar 5, 2021, 9:50 AM

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flare markers aren't orange

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 9:50 AM

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yes

slate arrow Mar 5, 2021, 9:51 AM

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long story short; you just learn as you go

gritty oracle Mar 5, 2021, 9:51 AM

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Are heroes gauntlet and ||matoya's relict|| both in expert and lv80 roulette?

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 9:51 AM

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Orange radiating pulsing like a radar means reduced by distance

remote lintel Mar 5, 2021, 9:51 AM

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no @gritty oracle

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they're in expert

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 9:51 AM

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Orange arrows pointing inwards usually accompanied by a sound effect means reduced by number, so get in

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and orange just means gtfo

slate arrow Mar 5, 2021, 9:51 AM

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Especially in expansions outside of the standardized stack, cleave, and tankbuster markers, you just kinda have to learn and/or look at the boss more often

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(It's fun watching new players die in ShB trials :3c)

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 9:52 AM

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moment of silence for my boy coincounter

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they did him dirty

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but yeah, if you can get a grasp of the standardised markers then you'll broadly be OK

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 9:53 AM

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I will try to see if I can find it

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it was like this but significantly bigger and didn't come from any of the moogles

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like it covered a quarter of the arena

slate arrow Mar 5, 2021, 9:56 AM

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It came from one of the moogles but I don't remember which one

lilac flume Mar 5, 2021, 9:56 AM

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Isn’t that the dancer Moogle buff radius?

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 9:56 AM

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bard. yep.

slate arrow Mar 5, 2021, 9:56 AM

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Thornsmarch is just a clusterfuck

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 9:56 AM

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means get all the enemies out of it

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 9:56 AM

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no idea why it was so much bigger than then

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 9:57 AM

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uh. potentially the blm

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if everyone ignored it and let it cast pom flare then that's probably about that size

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 9:58 AM

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and I died to a blue AOE so thats something

slate arrow Mar 5, 2021, 9:58 AM

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did everyone die or just you

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 9:58 AM

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me

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wait no one other guy died too but he got ressed

slate arrow Mar 5, 2021, 9:59 AM

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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What shade of blue

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(This is why I don't like thornsmarch; it's such a clusterfuck for a level 50 instance)

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 10:00 AM

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like, murky blueish green or something

slate arrow Mar 5, 2021, 10:00 AM

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ah gotcha

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all I can really say is kill the moogles and try not to be mechanic'd

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 10:01 AM

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devout lichen like, murky blueish green or something

THAT was the paladin

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it's cast near the end of the fight when king mog boosts the paladin add

fast talon Mar 5, 2021, 10:02 AM

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Quick question, does food stats on the lodestone only show it at NQ?

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 10:02 AM

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usually in conjuction with the warrior(?)'s thrown for a loop which provokes people to move into it

slate arrow Mar 5, 2021, 10:02 AM

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It should specify in the item but I'd assume so, yes.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:03 AM

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wasn't thornmarch kind of shitty

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 10:03 AM

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i'm surprised someone survived it because that's usually a oneshot for anyone but a warrior with cooldowns, synced

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:03 AM

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some order like kill the blm first then so and so and so

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 10:03 AM

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I was watching someone else to see what am I supposed to do and I was watching the only other guy who had absolutely no idea

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:04 AM

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I think the only tip I got was 'kill the blm first'

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 10:04 AM

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thornmarch is just a disaster

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:04 AM

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and then smth about the whm

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 10:04 AM

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try to follow the order if someone sets it and avoid what looks avoidable

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:04 AM

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and then the rest of the moogles

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 10:04 AM

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besides that just take advantage of the fact it's ARR content and vaguely a breeze

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:04 AM

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the blm's a bit of a nuke apparently so maybe that was it

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ARR content is normally pretty cheesable but there's shit like the midgardsormr dungeon where tanks can't seem to get the positioning of the dragons right and dpses are panicking and dying to AoEs

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four sprouts in that and you're probably all toast

edgy sail Mar 5, 2021, 10:06 AM

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Does anybody have any targeting tips for healer mains? Are there hotkeys or features that I could use to avoid needing to click my tank's name every time I want to heal them?

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:06 AM

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shift focus

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*shift F

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right?

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makes you focus target the tank so it appears there even when you're looking at other targets

silver ruin Mar 5, 2021, 10:07 AM

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f keys are default set to your party member

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:07 AM

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if you manage your hud it can be real convenient

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oh yeah I don't have F keys

edgy sail Mar 5, 2021, 10:07 AM

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Is it possible to set multiple focus targets?

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:07 AM

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but that's valid

silver ruin Mar 5, 2021, 10:07 AM

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no

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:07 AM

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uhhh no

silver ruin Mar 5, 2021, 10:07 AM

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thats not possible

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that being said

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you still have to click on them or their name to heal them

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:07 AM

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maybe move your party bar closer

silver ruin Mar 5, 2021, 10:07 AM

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or target them as the main target

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:08 AM

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to the middle of your screen

silver ruin Mar 5, 2021, 10:08 AM

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focus target just lets you see their hp and what they're casting

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:08 AM

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it's good for bosses as well if you're not healer

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but yeah the only tip maybe is move your party menu closer so it's easier to click

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you need to keep an eye on it anyway

edgy sail Mar 5, 2021, 10:09 AM

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The problem I have is that I lose track of my cursor when it's too hectic

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:09 AM

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have you put the special ffxiv cursor setting which makes it a bit bigger? I guess I can understand that

edgy sail Mar 5, 2021, 10:09 AM

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Oh yeah I haven't looked at cursor settings, good idea

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:09 AM

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but if you hover your cursor around the party menu list anyway because you're probably just using mouse for camera angle

edgy sail Mar 5, 2021, 10:09 AM

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There's so much to modify and it's hard to navigate the menus after taking a break :(((

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:10 AM

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yeah haha

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but HUD layout would definitely help

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like I moved focus target bar right above all my skills

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and the menu for party bar is like middle of my screen to the left

gritty oracle Mar 5, 2021, 10:11 AM

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remote lintel no <@169054863978790913>

ty!

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:11 AM

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and I have HP/MP above my skills rather than under is and shit

edgy sail Mar 5, 2021, 10:11 AM

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If I set my tank as my focus target in the beginning of the alliance raid, will anything make it go away?

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:11 AM

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only if you focus target something else or move into a new area

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I think

vestal needle Mar 5, 2021, 10:11 AM

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is there no way to get deepshadow gear?

edgy sail Mar 5, 2021, 10:11 AM

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Alright, thanks man

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:11 AM

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so yeah it does help you a bit from losing your tank in an alliance lol np

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 10:12 AM

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vestal needle is there no way to get deepshadow gear?

Exchange Sacks of Nuts with the hunt NPCs in the Crystarium or Eulmore.

vestal needle Mar 5, 2021, 10:13 AM

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oh thanks!

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 10:14 AM

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do the invisible walls not exist when you are flying

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:14 AM

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I think they do

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they're just further away that you think

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you can fly over terrain on map that isn't visible for example but only to a certain point I'm pretty sure

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 10:15 AM

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yeah I can fly over way more things than I expected

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:15 AM

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like so coerthas you can fly from the entrance to ishgard to the cliff opposite over the chasm

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you just can't land there

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devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 10:27 AM

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are the crystal tower quests really necessary to continue main quests?

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 10:29 AM

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yes

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The game tells you that explicitly

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 10:31 AM

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well yes but I can still continue the quests

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 10:32 AM

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you'll get hard stopped eventually

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:32 AM

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yeah no you have to

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Same for ifrit/titan/shiva/garuda

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 10:32 AM

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No, the game dialogue did not lie to you when it told you you had to do them.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:32 AM

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I got hard stopped for crystal tower

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it's not bad though it's fun

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you meet graha

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my friend fucking loves graha

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so it was hype

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wait shit

crude nacelle Mar 5, 2021, 10:33 AM

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Back when I started (never finished) my zodiac grind, there was a tool that notified me when certain fates pop up, is that still a thing?

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:33 AM

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haha....

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whoopsie daisy

leaden ginkgo Mar 5, 2021, 10:35 AM

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Is Urth's Fount (Odin trial) considered an extreme? I've been sat in a duty finder queue for over 95 minutes now

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 10:35 AM

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Yes and no.

clever ether Mar 5, 2021, 10:36 AM

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How can I tell what Conjurer, Thaumaturge and Arcanist is gonna be?

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I wanna try a magic class

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 10:36 AM

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It is not a part of the trial roulette.

leaden ginkgo Mar 5, 2021, 10:36 AM

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I'm guessing I should have used the party finder instead?

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:36 AM

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uhh we can tell you! arcanist branches into two classes that level together

clever ether Mar 5, 2021, 10:36 AM

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I think I wanna play summoner

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:36 AM

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summoner and scholar

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 10:36 AM

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It is grouped with the "Hard" mode trials and has fairly simple mechanics, but the high damage values are more in line with an extreme.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:36 AM

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oh well there you go

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and you level a healer with it

clever ether Mar 5, 2021, 10:36 AM

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Is summoner fun/ok?

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:36 AM

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the con is that maybe arcanist isn't beginner friendly

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I had fun with smn

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 10:37 AM

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Conjurer -> White mage
Thaumaturge -> Black mage
Arcanist -> Summoner and/or Scholar

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:37 AM

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I play tank/healer more nowadays but only after I got to ishgard and picked up those classes

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it's fun post 60 apparently like most dps

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 10:37 AM

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All jobs are ok.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:37 AM

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they get better and more enjoyable the higher you go but you can sort of figure if you like how it plays

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 10:37 AM

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i started with arcanist and played summoner for a whole expansion and a half, i wouldnt say it isnt beginner friendly

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:37 AM

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really?

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 10:37 AM

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All jobs are viable. Balance is very good in this game compared to other MMOs on the market.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:37 AM

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I think it's okay it's just people recommend archer to beginners more often

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 10:38 AM

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No job is beginner-unfriendly.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:38 AM

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but yeah it's probably alright

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 10:38 AM

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Different people may find different jobs more intuitive.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:38 AM

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fair

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 10:38 AM

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there isn't a class in end game raiding where you would be hard griefing your party by playing it

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:38 AM

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but yeah arcanist is neat because you get two classes when you level up smn or sch

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so that's cool

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 10:38 AM

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you can clear week one with any composition as long as you have one of each role

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 10:38 AM

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Archer/bard at high levels requires attention to a lot of random procs and a lot of button presses per minute, for example. It's a lot of effort to keep up with.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:39 AM

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ngl it's just play what you think is fun then, mb

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I thought summoner was neat but it's not like you can't change anyway in future so it's all g when you can try different stuff

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 10:39 AM

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yep i think thats the best advice to give new players in this game

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especially since you can literally play every class in the game

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:40 AM

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I started with smn, tried healing and tanking and stick to that more nowadays because that's what I think is fun personally

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right!

leaden ginkgo Mar 5, 2021, 10:40 AM

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How do I set up an unsynced party in the finder?

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 10:40 AM

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bard i think introduces its concepts in a clear progression

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 10:40 AM

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undersized party

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 10:40 AM

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you have all of the key things by like, level 52

rough moat Mar 5, 2021, 10:41 AM

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Gladiator is pretty simple for me being new, just tank the damage basically

leaden ginkgo Mar 5, 2021, 10:41 AM

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deep gyro undersized party

Thank you

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 10:41 AM

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np

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:41 AM

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I think the best thing you can do is read your skills ngl

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 10:41 AM

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Tanks are really simple in execution, and I'd give them a solid recommendation to newcomers too

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 10:41 AM

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pulsar escarp I think the best thing you can do is read your skills ngl

you would be surprised how many people don't do this

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 10:41 AM

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but some people are daunted by the perceived "responsibility" of the role

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 10:41 AM

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Tanks for the most part have the easiest mechanics for most duties.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:41 AM

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legitimately my friend was surprised I knew what surecast did

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the bar is low

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apparently tanking gets a bit more challenging in 70 content but that's not a bad thing

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?

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 10:42 AM

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In reality tanks don't really have significantly more "responsibility" than any other party member, but the feeling can be hard to shake for people who are anxious about performing in public.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:42 AM

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healer as well I guess

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tank and healer anxiety is something haha

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 10:42 AM

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Things start to hit harder since you get more personal mitigation at 60-70 for most tanks

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 10:42 AM

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i would say tanks have more mechanics this savage tier than dps

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 10:42 AM

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Like this beauty for Dark Knight

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:42 AM

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yeah but that does sound fun

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TBN?

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 10:43 AM

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!action The Blackest Night

zinc orbitBOT Mar 5, 2021, 10:43 AM

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**The Blackest Night** : lvl 70 DRK (3000 MP) (15.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Creates a barrier around target that absorbs damage totaling 25% of target's maximum HP.
Duration: 7s
Grants Dark Arts when barrier is completely absorbed.
Dark Arts Effect: Consume Dark Arts instead of MP to execute Edge of Shadow or Flood of Shadow

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:43 AM

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yeah super sweet

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so things getting harder post 60/70 is actually more things to do/more fun for tank

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because at that point you probably know the game pretty well too

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 10:44 AM

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the final fight this tier literally gives tanks double the amount of mechanics than dps

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:44 AM

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tank mechanics...

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 10:44 AM

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That’s why I said for the most part.

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 10:44 AM

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most fights this tier have more mechanics on tank

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thank any other role

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:45 AM

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also your perceived responsibility is also probably just knowing that if you wanted to you could kill everybody and yourself lmao

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I know for me it sure was but I'm getting over it

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there aren't many in low level that are tank mechanics right?

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in arr maybe just the aetherial tear with the meteors?

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 10:46 AM

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Little bits here and there depending on the exact dungeon/trial, but yeah.

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Like Keeper of the Lake’s final boss adds having proximity-based mechanics if you take them too far or too close to the boss

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 10:46 AM

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thinking about it more, i would say in almost every savage raid tank always has more mechanics than dps

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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that shit fucked us up

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I played healer twice for that thing

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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one exception i can think of is the tank that takes brute justice in phase 2 of tea

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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tanks had never seen that stuff before as sprouts and dps weren't used to so many aoes

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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(Easy way to remember for that dungeon is just tank where the dragons are. They’re already at their ideal spot)

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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why is it keep telling me my mount cant fly any higher when I definitely can

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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one closer to midgard one further right

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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Zones have invisible ceilings.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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uhh because of the terrain you can only be a certain distance from it I think

cursive wave Mar 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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Imagine thinking tanks have the least to do in most fights

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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devout lichen why is it keep telling me my mount cant fly any higher when I definitely can

because you can't dude

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 10:48 AM

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but I can

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:48 AM

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but when you move to a mountain or something sometimes the ceiling accomadates for it so you can fly over

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 10:48 AM

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go on then

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do it

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 10:48 AM

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it gives me that message when I still have space above

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before actually hitting the invisible ceiling

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 10:48 AM

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It gives you that message when you're like

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 10:48 AM

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It’s a warning for when you’re about to hit the top.

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 10:48 AM

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two inches from the ceiling

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:48 AM

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not that hitting the top does anything

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other than stop you going higher

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 10:49 AM

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You can disable the altitude warning in the character Config if you find it spamming the error a lot

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 10:49 AM

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way more than 2 inches

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ah okay

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:49 AM

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but yeah keeper of the lake seems to be a big jump from what people new to ffxiv are used to in arr

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like I've done the dungeon twice and both times we wiped at least once because tanks aren't used to positioning and dpses aren't used to so many aoes

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thankfully everyone was quite patient

vocal summit Mar 5, 2021, 10:50 AM

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I remember being pretty surprised the first go around about the sheer amount of stuff.
The being black mage did not help

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:50 AM

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definitely not

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it was the first itme I had to use rescue

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healing it is a nightmare as well

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tanks don't understand at that point that dragons are like... 180 degrees of death

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and obviously where to tank them

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it's jsut a jump

vocal summit Mar 5, 2021, 10:52 AM

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Coming from WoW at least I was super wary about dragon parts coming in

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So that helped

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 10:52 AM

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yeah..

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the issue is it's not only the tanks but also the dps in keeper of the lake facing pressure

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so many aoes

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and in turn that means the healer's going nuts too lmao it's just not kind

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more fun though compared to what arr usually offers

clever ether Mar 5, 2021, 10:57 AM

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Where did you find the char files so i could copy settings over to my alt?

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 11:00 AM

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All tanks have basically the same overall mitigation and are extremely close in damage (2-4% variance from best choice to worst choice)

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It really just comes down to which ones you like the play style of the best

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For an easier overall rotation I would definitely say Warrior and maybe Dark Knight.

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:01 AM

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As a new player, you only have two choices to start out with: gladiator (becomes paladin) and marauder (becomes warrior)

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The highest damage goes to gunbreaker, but by such a small margin that literally no one cares.

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Your own skill and comfort with the class is the most important factor.

clever ether Mar 5, 2021, 11:02 AM

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Are there druid/shapeshifting class a like?

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:02 AM

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no

clever ether Mar 5, 2021, 11:02 AM

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Or summoner the closest?

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 11:02 AM

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clever ether Where did you find the char files so i could copy settings over to my alt?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/1ofqe3/can_i_copy_my_hud_layout_to_another_character/

r/ffxiv - Can I copy my HUD layout to another character?

20 votes and 10 comments so far on Reddit

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:02 AM

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Summoner would be the closest

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But you don't shapeshift.

clever ether Mar 5, 2021, 11:02 AM

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But I have a pet?

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 11:02 AM

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Yep

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Part of Summoner’s rotation sacrifices/converts their pet/Egi into a dragon/Phoenix

rigid dust Mar 5, 2021, 11:04 AM

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a friend mentioned in passing to me that there's a shrine to Byregot somewhere around Camp Tranquil~? does anyone know where this would be o:

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 11:04 AM

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Should be directly north of the camp on the ground floor.

rigid dust Mar 5, 2021, 11:04 AM

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gotcha, i'll take another look. tysm!! c:

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:04 AM

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Northwest

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 11:04 AM

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Somewhere along that northern border

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:04 AM

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It's just a stone with Byregot's emblem etched into it.

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There are such stones throughout the base game areas, dedicated to each of the Twelve.

rigid dust Mar 5, 2021, 11:05 AM

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's all i need! cx just want to get a good /pray in before some crafting work lol

clever ether Mar 5, 2021, 11:08 AM

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Okay how can I know which one I have the settings saved on?

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:08 AM

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inb4 byregot gives you an excellent before great strides>byregots blessing during your crafting macro

rigid dust Mar 5, 2021, 11:08 AM

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pure

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 11:08 AM

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clever ether Okay how can I know which one I have the settings saved on?

You’ll have to rely on the “last modified” time to tell which character is which

leaden ginkgo Mar 5, 2021, 11:08 AM

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Hello, I'm very new and I have 2 questions ... I'm an archer or a bard (I'm only lvl 26) but does it make a difference leche grand company I choose? And for my Archer Skill "Head Graze" does it stop any action or how is that meant?

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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Grand company choice is mostly for what gear looks the best to you

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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head graze will stop a cast with a red cast bar

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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(what's your favourite colour essentially)

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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only if it is red

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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oh wait is that the same policy for interrupt/stun on tanks?

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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More accurately, a pulsing cast bar

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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the normal casts will not be interrupted by head graze

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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Yep

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:10 AM

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Yes, head graze is an interrupt

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!action head graze

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:10 AM

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only for interject

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 11:10 AM

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I have to do whole entire raids just to progress in the story?

zinc orbitBOT Mar 5, 2021, 11:10 AM

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**Head Graze** : lvl 24 ARC BRD MCH DNC (30.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Interrupts the use of a target's action.

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:10 AM

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it works the same

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not stuns

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:10 AM

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The wording in the tooltip is key

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:10 AM

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I see

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 11:10 AM

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devout lichen I have to do whole entire raids just to progress in the story?

Only the crystal tower raid is required for MSQ

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The rest are optional

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:10 AM

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"Interrupts" means what interject does on tanks.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:10 AM

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so the cast bar will be red

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:10 AM

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Whereas "stuns" means....stuns.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:10 AM

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that's nice to know

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 11:10 AM

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well I hope it's easy then

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:10 AM

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true lol

leaden ginkgo Mar 5, 2021, 11:10 AM

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Ahh ok make Sense .. with head graze ..
Thanks for the Help! ❤️

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:10 AM

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The cast bar is always the same colour

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:10 AM

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for mobs that are not immune to stuns, you can use an action that stuns to stop a regular cast

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:10 AM

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ohhh

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yeah sorry *red bar

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:11 AM

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But the "interruptable" cast bar has a pulsating border emanating from it

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:11 AM

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not cast bar

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neat

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!

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:11 AM

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?

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there's nothing red

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:11 AM

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sorry I understnad now lol

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no red., pulsing

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 11:11 AM

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24-man raids are designed as casual content, and in the case of the Crystal Tower, people vastly overgear the fight

clever ether Mar 5, 2021, 11:11 AM

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So I thought they where in order from creation meaning I most likley have removed the template I would like to use loll

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:11 AM

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you can retrieve it from your recycle bin then

clever ether Mar 5, 2021, 11:11 AM

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I havent deleted anything

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:11 AM

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are there enough interruptable cast bars in future that it mandates keeping it on an easy to reach place?

clever ether Mar 5, 2021, 11:11 AM

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Just copy pasted over it

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:12 AM

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yes

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 11:12 AM

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They appear every now and then, like once a patch or so

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:12 AM

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pulsar escarp are there enough interruptable cast bars in future that it mandates keeping it o...

it is required for some extreme and savage fights

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when you need it, you need it.

warm snow Mar 5, 2021, 11:12 AM

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It's very useful in puppets bunker

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:12 AM

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if you plan on doing palace of the dead also

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:12 AM

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ahh but for everyday bosses in dungeons it's not all that necessary?

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though I will keep it where I have it

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 11:12 AM

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You can probably get by with having it on an obscure keybind or just an easy to click slot

warm snow Mar 5, 2021, 11:12 AM

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Not necessary but less damage taken is less damage taken

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:12 AM

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the thing is you will need it one day

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:12 AM

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rn I have it on ctrl 2 or smth

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:13 AM

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and you wont have it

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just keep it around

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:13 AM

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occasionally dungeon adds, particularly in shadowbringers, need you to use it too

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(though the tank usually keeps an eye on such things)

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:13 AM

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then what about stun? same policy?

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:13 AM

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no

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:13 AM

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or trash stun

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:13 AM

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but it can be pretty far away

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:13 AM

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deep gyro for mobs that are not immune to stuns, you can use an action that stuns to stop ...

this for stuns

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:13 AM

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you only occasionally need it

warm snow Mar 5, 2021, 11:13 AM

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Iirc almost all bosses are stun immune by shb

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:13 AM

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oh I see

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yeah so stun should proabbly be lower priority

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:14 AM

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its good for dungeons

warm snow Mar 5, 2021, 11:14 AM

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You don't have a stun as ranged

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:14 AM

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stun is mitigation on trash basically

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:14 AM

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yeah I'm not ranged lmao

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Yeah that's the only place I really use it

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:14 AM

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not something you usually need to worry about, to be quite honest

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:14 AM

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I just do it for the sake of it

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:14 AM

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because you can stun a mob casting an aoe to stop it instead of running away and losing uptime

warm snow Mar 5, 2021, 11:14 AM

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If anything learn stun for the msq roulette and your teammates will thank you

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:14 AM

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there's practically nothing else I can press in satsasha

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:14 AM

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mostly trash mobs

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stun wont work for most bosses

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:15 AM

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yeah one of the mines be like that in low level

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yeah it seems like one of those kinds of skills

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the higher level you go the less you'll probably be able to use it

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:15 AM

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but interrupt skills will always work for the pulsating casts

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on bosses etc

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:16 AM

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that's probably the best tip I've had

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usually I just chance it because I can't tell

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:16 AM

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interrupt mechanics on bosses at later levels are few and far between enough to be remarkable as a mechanic

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:16 AM

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e1s

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:16 AM

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cast bar still pulses when on focus target right

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yeah but it's still nice to know

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:16 AM

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yes

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:16 AM

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Believe so

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:16 AM

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i can count I think 1 time it's 'needed' in the entirety of Shadowbringers outside of extreme or savage, and even that's uncommon

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:16 AM

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so putting it on a further keybind is probably a good plan if it's rare enough

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:16 AM

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yes, that sounds fine

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:17 AM

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what of things like arms length then? it seems like same policy if you need it you'll really need it

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:17 AM

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I think the most I've used it in the past few weeks has been Castrum

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:17 AM

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no

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arms length

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:17 AM

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no, AL IS common

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:17 AM

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is very important

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:17 AM

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as a tank it is a defensive cooldown

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:17 AM

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Ah yeah

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:17 AM

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Arms Length also has a slow in addition to canceling knockback

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 11:17 AM

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Arms Length is also mitigation for trash mobs

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:17 AM

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as a tank u should use in dungeons

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:17 AM

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and VERY, VERY frequently mechanics will fuck you over if you don't anti-knockback

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:17 AM

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slow as in cast slow

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not movement slow

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:17 AM

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I c ic

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that makes a little more sense but would've been nice if they clarified

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in the skill description

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:18 AM

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plus many mechanics have knockback elements which you can just uptime monkey through if you use surecast/AL

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:18 AM

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they did

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:18 AM

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they did?

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:18 AM

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Yeah, sorry, I still think old school so Slow is "attack/cast" slow and movement slow is "Snare" in my mind.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:18 AM

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f me I guess I can't read

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:18 AM

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!skill arms length

zinc orbitBOT Mar 5, 2021, 11:18 AM

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**Arm's Length** : lvl 32 GLA PGL MRD LNC ARC PLD MNK WAR DRG BRD ROG NIN MCH DRK SAM GNB DNC (120.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Creates a barrier nullifying most knockback and draw-in effects.
Duration: 6s
Additional Effect: Slow +20% when barrier is struck
Duration: 15s

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:18 AM

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it just says 'slow +20%' I just assumed it meant you were slow

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:18 AM

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keep in mind the slow isnt a movement speed

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:18 AM

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yeah I realised haha

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:18 AM

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its their cast speed and autoattacks

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:18 AM

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~~ngl i thought it meant that too at first~~

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:19 AM

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that's what I wish they clarified

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:19 AM

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Slow affects attack speed

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Movement speed debuff is "heavy"

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:19 AM

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it's a natural assumption to make when starting mmo for first time

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mm yeah

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:19 AM

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ff tooltips don't mince words, once you figure out what they mean you're fine

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:19 AM

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The tooltips are a bit stuffy but they are consistent with their terminology

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:19 AM

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you can also nullify some knockbacks with gapclosers right? not sure where I heard that

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:19 AM

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yes

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:19 AM

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that's true

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:19 AM

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if you time it right

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:19 AM

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yes but it requires perfect timing

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:19 AM

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Yes, if you time them right. YOu'll basically start to go back and then rush forward.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:20 AM

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so if AL's on cd or smth then good luck with gapcloser lmao

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:20 AM

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in essence, you press gap closer after the kb but before you're out of range

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:20 AM

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don't count on it to save your life

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:20 AM

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definitely not

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:20 AM

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which unless you're a dnc requires snap reaction

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:20 AM

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usually if u dash at the end of the cast bar it should work (if there is a cast bar)

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 11:20 AM

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It also depends on how “fast” the knock back is

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For some fights it’s easy, others it’s impossible

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:20 AM

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plus you're at the mercy of ping to an extent

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:20 AM

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dnc dash has a SLIGHT delay

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:20 AM

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And the timing isn't consistent mob to mob. Eden 4 for example I can nullify the knockback with it EVERY time without fail. The Lizard boi in DR? Maybe 25% of the time on a good day.

leaden ginkgo Mar 5, 2021, 11:20 AM

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Long question:
about to be new player here, was suggested to try out FF14.
But before i commit to doing anything i would like some info on play styles, builds and realm choice & general information.

In the past I have played 2 mmo's before:

WOW (classic, MOP, WOD, Legion expansions) as Tank, classes vary, i had them all/kept them all at max level (mythic raiding CE difficulty)
Runescape (casually/ ingame ironman mode)

Ofc if this game has the 3 class style i would love to pick-up whatever tanks.

extra: does stuff similar to Weakauras exist in FF14?

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:20 AM

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is that an intended mechanic for gapcloser or is it just a side thing that they didn't bother fixing

zinc orbitBOT Mar 5, 2021, 11:21 AM

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agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:21 AM

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leaden ginkgo Long question: about to be new player here, was suggested to try out FF14. But ...

DBM and Weakauras CAN exist but they're massively less used because the necessity for them doesn't exist

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:21 AM

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keep in mind not all knockback skills can be nullified with arms length and surecast

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:21 AM

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This is a trinity game with tanks/healers/dps.

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There is nothing like weakauras. Addons are not supported. Fights are designed with clear mechanic tells and markers.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:21 AM

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that too lmao

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:21 AM

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although most can be

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:21 AM

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some things just have to happen? are there any indicators or do you just.. find out

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:22 AM

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mm, cactbot. but yes, addons are technically against ToS and are at no point 'needed'

leaden ginkgo Mar 5, 2021, 11:22 AM

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i presumed so, most games are.

so how deep dive answer into Tank classes/builds: what's the meta, what's fun to play

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:22 AM

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this game is well balanced

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:22 AM

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you just find out for the most part

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:22 AM

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Aqua - It's a trinity game, but one thing is Tanks/Healers ARE still a DPS source and it's expected of you. So as a tank you'll be expected to keep aggro, position mobs well, but also beat the snot out of things as much as possible while doing that.

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:22 AM

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and you can take educated guesses

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:22 AM

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no class pick will actually affect your capability

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nothing will carry you, and nothing will sink you

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:22 AM

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Cactbot is kinda defunct and heavily out of favour, and can totally get you banned.

warm snow Mar 5, 2021, 11:22 AM

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Any job can still clear any content

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:22 AM

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from skill names and stuff as well... I always thought it was funny how if it was your first time then you'd just have to guess what a cast did by the name and the time it took to cast it

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:22 AM

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And it's not on the level of weakauras.

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:23 AM

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also a lot of people will look down on you for using cactbot to clear high end content

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:23 AM

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The game is not designed for addons and what addons are created are combated by the devs and heavily looked down on by the community

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:23 AM

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Keep in mind, the free trial gives you access to 3/4 tanks up to level 60 and the first expansion. So I'd definitely recommend starting with the Trial. I have all four tanks maxed and they are very well balanced. They FEEL different, but I can complete any content with any of my four.

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:23 AM

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if that is something that you care about

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:23 AM

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The exception is ACT, the dps parsing addon

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which practically all raiders use

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:23 AM

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Must clarify though, ACT is 'fine' while the devs will not endorse it and it's technically against tos

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:23 AM

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and the devs willingly turn a blind eye to

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:23 AM

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everyone uses it and it's a don't ask don't tell

leaden ginkgo Mar 5, 2021, 11:24 AM

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terse roost Aqua - It's a trinity game, but one thing is Tanks/Healers ARE still a DPS sourc...

ya duh, that's true everywhere, you need to keep agro, optimise mob position, know every single mechanic in the fight, know what each of your teammates is/should be doing. ontop of being slightly below the dps in dps output, but still doing a pretty high output.

(mythic raiding CE difficulty)
^that was the highest difficulty of raiding existing

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:24 AM

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There is also additional function to ACT where you can set sound triggers to help you with certain mechanics

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raid groups vary re: how kindly they look upon using such things

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some people consider it a crutch

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:24 AM

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yoship said technically someone can have the battle log open and calculate their dps on a calculator so act isnt technically against the rules KEKW

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:24 AM

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ijoshgu dude...

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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why did I turn half invisible in the middle of the fight

leaden ginkgo Mar 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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so realm choice? i saw there's diffrent realms/stuff on the roles in here.

i know nothing.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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calculator....

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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Ehh, not necessarily everywhere. As an old school EQ guy no one cared about my Deeps as a tank. Different mentality for differnet' games. I haven't played WoW in AGES so I don't know the current meta.

warped nest Mar 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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@devout lichen which fight

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Is it a debuff?

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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Everything's basically cross-world within a given data center

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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realm choice b r o a d l y irrelevant. which region are you based?

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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thanatos

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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Individual server choice isn’t relevant for the most part

leaden ginkgo Mar 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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agile laurel realm choice b r o a d l y irrelevant. which region are you based?

Eu

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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shiva has a lot of germans

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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Data center is the only thing that really restricts who you can play with.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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just FCs though right? you can't join another server's FC

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?

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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from what i heard

warped nest Mar 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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That's a debuff, invisible means your hits will not land on any enemies, except Thanatos

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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Ahh, Greg - You became a "Ghost" so you can damage the bost. Only the Ghost Group can damage him.

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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I believe for EU you can pick anywhere and it will make negligible difference

warped nest Mar 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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Your hit will miss the succubus etc

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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the content scene is about equal

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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idno abt other servers on light

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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Chaos and Light are the EU datacenters, both physically located in Frankfurt, Germany

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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In EUs case the notable worlds are Shiva for German players and Moogle for French players

leaden ginkgo Mar 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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obsidian patio Individual server choice isn’t relevant for the most part

that's what they said on wow when i joined in mop, but aren't guilds realm-locked?

warped nest Mar 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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for the most part

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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Free Companies (guilds) aren't really raid groups.

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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Yes, but the concept of 'join a guild/FC to raid with a group' doesn't hold true in this game

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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Purely social in 99.9% of cases

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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Guilds in FFXIV are mostly done for the social aspect

warped nest Mar 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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People form static

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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People don't use FCs as raid organisations

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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oh I see

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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Guilds aren't as content-centric in FFXIV. You'll be working with a "Static" group which may or may not be in your guild for high end stuff.

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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Many FCs do run raid groups, but the community concept doesn't hold as much water

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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You can raid with people on other servers on your data center

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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wow I just suddenly realised that yeah

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:27 AM

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there are raid focused fcs but as lyon mentioned most of them are social

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:27 AM

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so I guess if you're looking for people to play with you're better off online like here?

rigid dust Mar 5, 2021, 11:27 AM

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deep gyro inb4 byregot gives you an excellent before great strides>byregots blessing durin...

excellent proc at 7% with 10 stacks, and it hit 100 🙏 praise be our great Byregot

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:27 AM

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you can check community finder website for actively recruting fcs on your server

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:27 AM

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Most people raid with people cross-world who may or may not be in FCs with each other, and organise through discord

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can also set up an ingame crossworld chat channel (linkshell) for your static

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:27 AM

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Also, regarding 'builds' to clear that question - classes in this game have no customisable element in progression content. They also have a very mappable 'perfection' - you play right, and you can aim for minmax perfection down to the GCD, or you play wrong

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Talents i.e. wow are not a thing

warped nest Mar 5, 2021, 11:28 AM

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There are no specs either

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:28 AM

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but you'll find the design of classes in this game are a bit more fleshed out to boot

warped nest Mar 5, 2021, 11:28 AM

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You cannot make a Ninja into a evade tank for example

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:28 AM

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i would link you to the europe raiding server but i assume you wont be interested in that for a while

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:28 AM

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Yeah, no builds or specs to speak of (outside of a few milliseconds difference in gcd speed preferences)

leaden ginkgo Mar 5, 2021, 11:28 AM

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so can i have a flavor/play style tl;dr on Paladin, Warrior, Dark knight and gunbreaker?

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:28 AM

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Aqua - ON thing you'll want to eventually look up is how high end timers work for loot. It's not the same as other MMO's I've played where you c lear content and get locked out from playing it. It affects how much loot the group gets doing the content. I can't speak to the specifics as I've never done Savages/Ultimates myself, those days are LONG behind me.

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:28 AM

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you can play all jobs on one character

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:28 AM

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you can play those tanks, but you will not play 'differently' on, say, your drk to any other drk

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:28 AM

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so instead of having specs or builds to vary up your play

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you can just switch jobs

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:29 AM

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well you could but you'd be playing wrong, or they would be

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:29 AM

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You will be differentiated by your skill level.

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:29 AM

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if you want to play it optimally then no there is only one way to maximise your dps that varies between fights

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:29 AM

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lol how would you play wrong, not using your CDs? I guess actually

warped nest Mar 5, 2021, 11:29 AM

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Yes

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Not using CD

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:29 AM

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lmao

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:29 AM

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to put it gently, 'that's just how i choose to play' is very often a defence used in this game by people who play bad and don't want to admit it

warped nest Mar 5, 2021, 11:29 AM

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Incorrect alignment

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:29 AM

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not using your rotation

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properly

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:29 AM

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Not reaching as great a height of optimisation and coordination with your party as the next guy.

warped nest Mar 5, 2021, 11:30 AM

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"I don't want to do this cuz it is too difficult to remember"

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 11:30 AM

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what is this supposed to be, am I getting called out for being bad

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:30 AM

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rotation is gcd correct? and keep your cds rolling? I'm still low level so I don't understand much

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:30 AM

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"I'll use fire spells when i want to"

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:30 AM

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an ASCII art drawing that is too wide to fit into your chat window

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:30 AM

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rotation is the order you use your skills

warped nest Mar 5, 2021, 11:30 AM

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@pulsar escarp GCD are your Weaponskill and spells

leaden ginkgo Mar 5, 2021, 11:30 AM

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on wow i always had a tiny self made compilation of timers, buffs and debuffs on my screen to keep track of my rotation and upkeep.

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:30 AM

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devout lichen what is this supposed to be, am I getting called out for being bad

it's a dumb ascii art showing that you should break line of sight with the mechanic to not die

wintry chasm Mar 5, 2021, 11:30 AM

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Rotation is just the most efficient order to use skills to achieve most DPS

warped nest Mar 5, 2021, 11:30 AM

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OGCD are your Ability

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:30 AM

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Dark Knight - Edgy Boy, has a quick recast defensive cooldown that's really sweet and can be cast on other tanks, so makes a great OT as well as MT. Fairly simple combos.
Paladin - More complicated rotation, balanced around keeping DoT's up and a periodic magic "Burst" DPS Phase.
Gunbreaker - Fast-paced, action-centric with a lot of skill weaving, but beats the snot out of things like a melee deeps.
Warrior - Best tanky boi (imho), high mitigation, simple playstyle, DPS burst phase can be combined with a lifetap on melee to regain lots of health.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:31 AM

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yeah

warped nest Mar 5, 2021, 11:31 AM

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You weave oGCD in between your GCD

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And doing your GCD and oGCD in a specific general order, then looping the order, is what we call rotation

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:31 AM

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leaden ginkgo on wow i always had a tiny self made compilation of timers, buffs and debuffs on...

you can easily move locations of buffs/debuffs on your screen and blow them up to larger using default UI customisation - and any 'trackable' thing required for throughput usually has a stylised gauge/meter unique to the class

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:31 AM

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leaden ginkgo on wow i always had a tiny self made compilation of timers, buffs and debuffs on...

you can highly customise the layout of your HUD to place timers for your CDs in convenient positions on your screen

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using the ingame hud customisation feature

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:31 AM

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yeah I got that, rn I learnt the opener for drk but from I'm slightly unclear on rotation afterwards nonetheless because of management and how to loop

leaden ginkgo Mar 5, 2021, 11:31 AM

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stuff like this i had

warped nest Mar 5, 2021, 11:32 AM

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@pulsar escarp go to YouTube

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Type ffxiv dark knight guide

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Look for a video from wesk alber

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:32 AM

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Mm. I'd say you can still do that with buffs/debuffs

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:32 AM

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i would say warrior is the easiest to play at the highest level, then drk and gnb, with pld being the hardest

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:32 AM

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yeah FFXIV's HUD customisation options can basically do that natively

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:32 AM

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weskalber had a lot to say on opener

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I did follow his guide ngl

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:32 AM

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And uptime things for the class are tracked by the stylised gauges that just exist

warped nest Mar 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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Take your time to practice and to absorb all these knowledge

leaden ginkgo Mar 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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between paladin, warrior dark knight and gunbreaker what one is not in the basic?

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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I'd second mila's summary. But your mileage may vary.

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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note FFXIV job rotations are a lot more complex than in WoW

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there are just

warped nest Mar 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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Don't worry about knowing everything on week 1

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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a lot more buttons

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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yeah I got opener down

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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and yes you need all of them

leaden ginkgo Mar 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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oh, and how much is the subscription?

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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!faq subprices

zinc orbitBOT Mar 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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Error!

No tag named subprices exists, Kupo!

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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!faq subprice

zinc orbitBOT Mar 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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Subscription Prices

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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just still shaky on how to manage mp and when to fire off stuff and how high/low it should be

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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oh uh

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!faq subpriceeu

zinc orbitBOT Mar 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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Subscription Prices

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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but I will get it in future!

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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there you go

warped nest Mar 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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It just takes practice

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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leaden ginkgo between paladin, warrior dark knight and gunbreaker what one is not in the basic...

pld > gnb/drk > war

leaden ginkgo Mar 5, 2021, 11:34 AM

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Yeah, guys, it's THAT time again, me, asking stuff. -Amelia, where did I put the phone? <Me, while holding the phone in my hand.

Question: Where do I go to open the stellarclusters?

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:34 AM

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Aqua - Gunbreaker, you'll need to have at least one class at 60 and the current expansion to access Gunbreaker. Warrior, Paladin are base game, Dark knight is Heavensward so you'll need... a 50 class at least.

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8Ship - Eulmore.

agile laurel Mar 5, 2021, 11:34 AM

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Black Mage's job gauge (don't panic, it has a simple/practical toggle) tracks for example the level of fire/ice you're in (top left) WHICH phase you're in (middle) the timer on enochian (top right) and the ticker until a new charge of polyglot (bottom right)

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:34 AM

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I thought gnb needed you to have one class at sixty? or do you have to reach a certain point in shb

warped nest Mar 5, 2021, 11:34 AM

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@terse roost 60 to get Gunbreaker

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Just level 60 combat job and own Shadowbringers

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:34 AM

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Ooops, typo there.

warped nest Mar 5, 2021, 11:34 AM

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Story progression not needed

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:34 AM

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oh yeah

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:35 AM

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Sorry about that, 4:30 AM so brain isn't fully awake yet.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:35 AM

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that was a mistake I made when aiming for drk haha I thought it would be doable from 30 but small print said 'get to ishgard'

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:35 AM

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leaden ginkgo Yeah, guys, it's THAT time again, me, asking stuff. -Amelia, where did I put the...

Rowena's Representatives in the main cities, or Materia Vendors in Idyllshire/Rhalgr's Reach/Eulmore

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 11:35 AM

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Only the Heavensward jobs need story progression (Dark Knight, Machinist, Astrologian)

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:35 AM

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once you own shb you unlock viera (masterrace) and hrothgar too

leaden ginkgo Mar 5, 2021, 11:35 AM

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jade quartz Rowena's Representatives in the main cities, or Materia Vendors in Idyllshire/Rh...

No one at limsa?

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:35 AM

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Rowena's Representatives in the main cities

leaden ginkgo Mar 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

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I don't remember where is Rowena in limsa, I thought limsa is a main city

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So confused haha

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

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IIRC the Limsa ones are kinda near the free company chest

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

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limsa, gridania and uldah are the main cities

leaden ginkgo Mar 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

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oh

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

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it's the lalafel near the aetheryte

leaden ginkgo Mar 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

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okay thanks!!!

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

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they said rowenas representative

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

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gotta be 50+ to get gear I think?

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

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not rowena herself

obsidian patio Mar 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

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Derp, thought they meant just scrips

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

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Rowena's Representatives are all

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right next to the main aetherytes

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

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and then 60 and 70 give you other stuff too as you unlock it

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oh yeah

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I just miss the gridania one a lot

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

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with a big icon on their heads

leaden ginkgo Mar 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

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Okay, thanks.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

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because of the stairs haha

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:37 AM

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hard to miss

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:37 AM

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Ohh, and as a heads up Aqua, don't bother much with materia until you get a class to max level. You'll be replacing gear so fast it's usually not worth it. Not saying you can't if you have a crapload sitting around, but it's not huge.

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Wait, did the 6.0 Speculation chat get nuked?

wintry chasm Mar 5, 2021, 11:38 AM

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Yes see #announcements

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:38 AM

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died down since it's been awhile since the announcement event, you can use #archived-lore-spoilers to talk about it

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Will return around the expansion release window

wintry chasm Mar 5, 2021, 11:39 AM

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jade quartz died down since it's been awhile since the announcement event, you can use <#226...

~~more like May~~

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:39 AM

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Ahhh, I see now. Okay, I thought I was losing my mind.

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:39 AM

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ye

warm snow Mar 5, 2021, 11:39 AM

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It was isolated for spoilers it's been long enough since the announcement that its been decided we no longer need to isolate for spoilers

warped nest Mar 5, 2021, 11:39 AM

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If I may add more, for combat jobs, they only have materia for secondary stats. The gain from secondary stat is not worth the trouble when you are still progressing. Better gear with higher primary stat offers a more significant increase

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:40 AM

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Spoiler content about 6.0 should still be kept to #archived-lore-spoilers

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:40 AM

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but if u have spare materia and you wanna meld for fun i would go for it anyway

warped nest Mar 5, 2021, 11:40 AM

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For crafter and gatherer, they have 3 primary stats each, and materia for each of these 6 stats. So, you can occasionally use some materia for your crafter and gatherer to skip some gear.

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 11:40 AM

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what are the seemingly random pins on the map, points of interest?

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:40 AM

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you wont really meld it "wrong" at lower levels

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:41 AM

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if you're zoomed in close enough you will see the text labels on the pins.

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points of interest yeah.

mossy halo Mar 5, 2021, 11:41 AM

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other than ||dragoon|| are there any other classes/jobs with characters or other stuff that appear in the main story that i should do first to get more attached?

warped nest Mar 5, 2021, 11:41 AM

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You can match the trailer

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:41 AM

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i remember when i first started the game i just wanted to meld the slots but people kept telling me not to :(

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:42 AM

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None as major as DRG, no

warped nest Mar 5, 2021, 11:42 AM

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You can meld, just not worth the trouble, that's all

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:42 AM

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wait why's that major

warped nest Mar 5, 2021, 11:42 AM

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We are now informing other players just so they don't get too obsessed with materia melding at low level

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:42 AM

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yeah i get that

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 11:42 AM

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will there be other questlines like crystal tower that are required to continue story

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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A major character from the dragoon 30-50 quests is a major character in Heavensward, and the dialogue will change accordingly if you've already done the DRG quests and met them.

warped nest Mar 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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No

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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Well

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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oh what

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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Stormblood raids are required for Shadowbringers Relics, but so far that's it.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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I mean they change the dialogue?

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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You need to complete Ifrit, Garuda and Titan hard mode as well to get through ARR

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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that's surprising

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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Yes. Several things can actually change the dialogue depending on other content you've done.

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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There are hundreds of little dialogue flags in this game

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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terse roost Stormblood raids are required for Shadowbringers Relics, but so far that's it.

you mean alliance raids?

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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does it change in HW or in DRG quests?

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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Correct

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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that's pretty cool

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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dialogues that acknowledge that you've completed another optional quest

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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not other raids

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:44 AM

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Just the alliance raids.

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:44 AM

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The DRG/HW example is one of the most major, though

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:44 AM

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i think the word raid can be ambiguous to newbies

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:44 AM

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quite nice actually to know

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:44 AM

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MInd you, I recommend doing EVERY expansions Alliance and Normal raids anyway because they're fun and the story is pretty good.

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:44 AM

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same!

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 11:44 AM

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if you go back and do DRG quests after having completed Heavensward, it will be anachronistic and not make sense

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:44 AM

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oh yeah that's what I was thinking

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:45 AM

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none of the normal raids/alliance raids are hard either and i always had fun with them even as a beginner

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:45 AM

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@jade quartz It's kinda hilarious though in a way, I got a good chuckle doing Dragoon after finishing ShB

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:45 AM

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CT series was ngl really fun even as a beginner? mind you I got shouted at for something but it was still fun

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the fact you can do optional alliance raids (I think?) in free trial is nice too

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:46 AM

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yeah its really great

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i recommend trying everything and if it sucks or is not for you then just leave it

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:47 AM

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Can't wait to do DS though I'm not sure about dpsing for it

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even if queue shorter

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want to try OTing for an alliance

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but that's gonna take a while in queue right.. 3 tanks out of 24 people

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:48 AM

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Nop

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Nope*

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Generally as a tank just about any queue goes quickly.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:48 AM

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?

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really?

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:49 AM

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yes

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:49 AM

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Wow tanks must be really rare then

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if even 3/24 gets that speedy

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:49 AM

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Depending on time of day, of course. Right now the Diabolos queues would probably use being not even 4 AM on a Weekday. But during normal hours, tank queues pop quickly.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:49 AM

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oh yeah haha

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I got used to nothing happening during the day in my country

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I only do things in the evening when people are actually possibly awake and playing and then my queues are almost instant

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:50 AM

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What are you queuing as ATM?

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:50 AM

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you can check the server time

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:50 AM

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DPS?

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:50 AM

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in game

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:50 AM

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tank and healer normally

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:50 AM

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it says ST

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:50 AM

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yeah ST is same as my time which is a bit uh

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sus actually

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maybe it's am rather than pm or smth

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:51 AM

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it says am or pm

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:51 AM

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yeah maybe I just read it wrong

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:51 AM

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i think

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:51 AM

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but it can't be the same because I'm in europe

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and crystal is uh, crystal

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:51 AM

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you can have all 3 times open at the same time

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if you change the settings

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:51 AM

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two are the same so god knows what's going on

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:51 AM

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... You can?

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GOD DAMMIT, why Am I just learning this?!

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:52 AM

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but you said you are in europe playing on NA

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:52 AM

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yeah exactly

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which is why it's weird

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:52 AM

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there is a 0% chance LT and ST are the same

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:52 AM

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that's why it's funky I'm sure something's going on

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:52 AM

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unless your pc clock is wrong

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:52 AM

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nope seems right

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maybe I hallucinate or smth

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:53 AM

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it should say am or pm

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:53 AM

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but yeah when I'm online the only good times are evenings for me and then I get near instant

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but even as dps I get impatient

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average for me as smn used to be around 15 mins before I tank/healer

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:53 AM

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dps queues are usually the longest

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:53 AM

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and became sub 5

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yeah.. it's sad because I don't have motivation to level mch and stuff for it

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because wait times

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 11:54 AM

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you can party with a tank or healer friend

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:54 AM

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a way I could get round this is maybe party with friends

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yeah but I don't have friends and can't party so for now I'm in tank healer limbo

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not that I mind

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:55 AM

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That or start to find stuff you want to do in the world while you queue. So for example I did a LOT of the ShB relics by queueing a DPS I was leveling, then flipping to a 60+ DPS I was leveling and burning through the fates (Soloable pretty easy once you're in Augmented Shire gear and Crazy easy in Scaeven)

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I'd just get the quest with an 80 class and let it sit open so I could harvest the FATE's. Annoyed me when a qeueu pop would happen mid-FATE but, eh, it balances out.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:56 AM

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ic ic

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 11:57 AM

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Can also do stuff like ShB Fates for the gems/completion rate, older Relics, gathering, crafting, etc.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 11:57 AM

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yeah I was just impatient

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I'm sure in future maybe I could get friends together to party or something if I know more people in game

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that way wait times and roles would be simpler

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 12:10 PM

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so how come I see way more ranged people than melee

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:10 PM

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small sample size probably

wintry chasm Mar 5, 2021, 12:11 PM

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devout lichen so how come I see way more ranged people than melee

Are you lumping casters and stuff into ranged?

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 12:11 PM

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only dps

wintry chasm Mar 5, 2021, 12:11 PM

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Casters are DPS

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:11 PM

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casters are dps

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 12:11 PM

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right, then yes

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 12:11 PM

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there are three dps categories

wintry chasm Mar 5, 2021, 12:11 PM

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Then there is more ranged jobs than melee jobs

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 12:11 PM

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melee,
ranged physical,
and caster

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 12:12 PM

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So there's 6 Ranged DPS (3 Physical, 3 Magical), and 4 Melee DPS. So sheer odds factors in there.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:12 PM

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we got a dungeon with two samurai wearing the exact same shit yesterday

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our astrologian must have had fun redrawing cards or just using them on themselves

hoary kayak Mar 5, 2021, 12:12 PM

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rcdKek good strat

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:13 PM

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what is your question?

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:13 PM

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yeah it was just speed, our strat was 'kill it, just kill it'

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frigid cairn Mar 5, 2021, 12:21 PM

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Would the laws order shirt be better for whm/dnc or the Exarchic one? 🤔

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 12:23 PM

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so now I gotta buy gear with allagan pieces to get my ilvl up?

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 12:25 PM

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That's the method or each level cap range, Greg, 50/60/70/80. There are other ways to get gear (Dungeons, crafting, etc), but you'll find tomestones one of the most straightforward methods

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 12:25 PM

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nice, cuz I just barely managed to get ilvl 90 to continue the questline

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 12:28 PM

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Generally, the gear from each expansion end will last you well into the next expansion. So the Augmented Ironworks from the lvl 50 tomestones will last a good way into HW.

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 12:28 PM

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do I stop getting easy gear from quests?

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 12:29 PM

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Nah, that continues.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:29 PM

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btw when the hell do all of you use lightspeed on astro? It seems good but simultaneously I'm not sure if I should be dpsing more with it on a regular, sometimes I activate it if swift cast is down and I gotta res

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like should I just cycle it on cd or smth

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or save it for when the party is fucking everything up

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:29 PM

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save it if everyone is a clown

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use it to weave things easier and move for mechanics if not

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:30 PM

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yeah the issue is I'd like to dps with it or some shit but like. . I dont' know when people are gonna fuck up and I'd like lightspeed ready to go

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that too yeah

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I'm only in HW so there isn't much to worry too much about when it comes to mechanics and healing between

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 12:30 PM

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For me it depends on the content I'm doing and the people. If the party looks competent and is handling the content well, I use it for mobility for DPS so I can move around more.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:30 PM

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and aspected beni is what I use a lot as a bit of a band aid and that's gcd anyway

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 12:30 PM

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But if it's tougher content, for me or the group, or they're looking like clownshoes, save it as an Oh Crap button

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:30 PM

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yeah..

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:31 PM

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remember if you're in nocturnal, shield before the damage, not after

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:31 PM

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I used it once in clutch as a pseudo swiftcase

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oh yeah I only go diurnal

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:31 PM

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else there's no point in using shields

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:31 PM

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unless I'm cohealing with another astro or whm

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definitely

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:31 PM

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a lot of new players complain about shield healers not being able to heal enough when you're meant to prevent damage

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:31 PM

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it's a no brainer but it's probably easy to make that mistake lmao

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oh yeah sch... be like that

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but yeah I use aspected bene probably the most

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:32 PM

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you need to know the fight well to play shield healers

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 12:32 PM

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I'm hoping with the shift in design between healers, they develop a new guildhest or something that helps teach people between the two

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:32 PM

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I see tank hp go down during trash so I slap that on him and then just gravity to hell

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:32 PM

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because your most important actions happen before damage is taken

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:33 PM

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yeah

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you're basically looking out for same things a tank is when they apply mitigation aren't they

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:33 PM

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yes

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:33 PM

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no one really seems to use beni without aspected right

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:33 PM

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no

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:34 PM

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I think normally what I do is aspected beni if hp going down and if it's lower than that I'd straight to benefic II

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:34 PM

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if you need an extra heal and you have nothing else

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:34 PM

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not sure if it's right but they don't die at least

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:34 PM

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and you already have the shield/regen

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:34 PM

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yeah

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:34 PM

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you shouldnt reapply it, its a healing potency loss

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:34 PM

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oh def

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but usually if they go down I sorta watch and expect regen to bring it back up

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hasn't killed anyone yet but I'll bear that in mind

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:35 PM

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when you say beni i think of divine benison

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:35 PM

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sorry yeah

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benefic* I don't look at skill names often

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:35 PM

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since benefic is spelled with an E

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:35 PM

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I just see the colour of the skill and press it

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:35 PM

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its ok everyone does the same

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:36 PM

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lol yeah

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:36 PM

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i can't tell you the names of my 123 combo with confidence on my main class either

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:36 PM

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helios though seems like you'd never use it if you're in diurnal though right? aspected is probably gonna get their hp higher eventually?

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oh ..

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oh man.. uh. you just made me think about what the drk 123 names are and I just blanked

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:37 PM

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helios is used to top the party up more

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if youre about to get a second roomwide aie

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aoe

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:37 PM

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but if the regen's up it's probably gonna.. oh I see

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:37 PM

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and they are still low

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:38 PM

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so after you've already regen heliosed and they're still low probably go for helios

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:38 PM

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your cohealer probably should heal in that situation but

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:38 PM

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oh definitely

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and I guess celestial opposition is really just a clutch aoe heal?

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:38 PM

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not all healers have perfect synergy and coordination

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:38 PM

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haha definitely not

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:38 PM

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yeah use it as much as you can without wasting it

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:38 PM

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yeah I'm always touchy about using skills

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I never know when people might fuck something up

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like one time two dpses just got insta killed and suddenly I had to put up lightspeed and swift casting rez

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:39 PM

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try not to aoe heal if the party is not going to take any damage for a long time and rely on regen skills

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:39 PM

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yeah

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aspected benefic is really just 'put a plaster on it and it'll heal itself'

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:39 PM

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keep in mind collective unconscious doesn't need to be up to be in effect

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oops

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wrong skill

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:40 PM

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oh really?

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lol

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:40 PM

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edited

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:40 PM

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oh yeah

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:40 PM

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the regen from that is also not to be overlooked

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:40 PM

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defniitely

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it's not just a shield

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it's got both hasn't it

unreal folio Mar 5, 2021, 12:40 PM

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So I have a lvl 64 RDM, and is running HoH constantly the fastest way to grind levels?

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:41 PM

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no matter what sect you'r ein

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:41 PM

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its a damage mitigation and regen

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:41 PM

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it seems like whatever sect you odn't have on it compensates for

gusty storm Mar 5, 2021, 12:41 PM

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how can I tell if my server has a good or bad market?

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:41 PM

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i would run dungeons during odd levels and hoh/roulettes during even levels

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 12:42 PM

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BC - That's a debated concept. I'm personally not a fan and think even with the queue time, running your highest level dungeon after your roulettes is the best method

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But it'll work to get levels.

ancient whale Mar 5, 2021, 12:42 PM

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are the trial mounts at HW hard to get?

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:42 PM

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beast tribe quests also give a lot of exp for like 10 min of work a day

unreal folio Mar 5, 2021, 12:43 PM

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Sounds good thanks. Just need to get rid of old equipment from my low level jobs that’s y xD

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:43 PM

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especially if you are on max rank

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 12:43 PM

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Ike - "Hard", no as you can solo quite a few unsynced and if you have a group, just run roughshod over them, but it can be time consuming.

crude nacelle Mar 5, 2021, 12:43 PM

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Is there a way to level sync LEVES? I am trying to unlock the leves mission, but the mission it gives me is pacify. I one shot everything. (trying to unlock leves for relic)

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:43 PM

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try an autoattack

honest anvil Mar 5, 2021, 12:43 PM

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Equip bad gears

vital ruin Mar 5, 2021, 12:44 PM

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Okay so got the blacksmith master recipe I and II but I don't see any other primal recipes in the list except ramuh

ancient whale Mar 5, 2021, 12:44 PM

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by that i mean can 1 level 80 eseentially solo it all?

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:44 PM

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yes

vital ruin Mar 5, 2021, 12:44 PM

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How do I access ifrits recipes

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 12:44 PM

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I don't know about all, I think there's some mechanics that still require a duo. But I'm not 100% sure

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:44 PM

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you can solo all im pretty sure

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some need you to play tank

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:45 PM

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Does aggro fall off if you're far enough away from the enemy? or is it just shit I probbaly missed while picking things up in dungeon because that's believable

honest anvil Mar 5, 2021, 12:46 PM

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in overworld ye

ancient whale Mar 5, 2021, 12:46 PM

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also can i just watch cutscenes w voice acted or does the one w out matter too?

honest anvil Mar 5, 2021, 12:46 PM

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in dungeons, idt you can ever run from enemies

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:46 PM

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everything matters if u want to follow the story

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but the critical scenes have voice acting

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 12:47 PM

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oh I mean dungeon

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hm

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then I missed them.. fuck

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oh well

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thanks for answering

boreal storm Mar 5, 2021, 12:48 PM

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vital ruin How do I access ifrits recipes

Master [Crafter]: demimateria

low ledge Mar 5, 2021, 12:48 PM

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you gotta play tank for a bunch of the hw extremes

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i tried doing them on sam ilvl 510

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u can also play healer

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and use it as a tank

frosty badger Mar 5, 2021, 12:50 PM

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hello! can someone help me find Coerthas Central Highlands (x31.8,y27.9)?

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 12:51 PM

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CCH entrance is in North Shroud, should be the Northwest corner, off of Fallgourd float

vital ruin Mar 5, 2021, 12:52 PM

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Where do I get that @boreal storm

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 12:53 PM

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https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Master_Crafting_Books

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i just googled master crafter lol

boreal storm Mar 5, 2021, 12:54 PM

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Talan in Mor Dhona, each costs a field demimateria 1 & a battle demimateria 1

oblique yew Mar 5, 2021, 12:54 PM

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do the beast tribe quests reset at the same time as the duty roulette?

warm snow Mar 5, 2021, 12:56 PM

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Yes

vital ruin Mar 5, 2021, 12:56 PM

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I c

warm snow Mar 5, 2021, 12:56 PM

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Almost everything resets at the same daily time, except for gc turn ins funny enough

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There might be more but I don't know them

vital ruin Mar 5, 2021, 1:06 PM

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Can't summoner lv 80 solo ramuh ex yet

edgy sail Mar 5, 2021, 1:08 PM

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If I put something into my glamour box, can I just apply that glamour onto any armor piece for free?

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 1:08 PM

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yes

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as long as its on a glamour plate

edgy sail Mar 5, 2021, 1:09 PM

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How does dye work with them then?

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 1:09 PM

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dye the glamour

edgy sail Mar 5, 2021, 1:10 PM

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In the box or when I've applied it?

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 1:10 PM

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either

edgy sail Mar 5, 2021, 1:10 PM

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Oh cool, seems easy

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 1:10 PM

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if u have an expensive dye i would dye it in the "box"

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if not i wouldnt worry about it

raven burrow Mar 5, 2021, 1:11 PM

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will the craftable gear be upgradeable to 520 or 525 ?

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 1:11 PM

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what can you craft at 520?

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oh

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next patch

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i think

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will be upgradeable to 520

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or patch after

raven burrow Mar 5, 2021, 1:11 PM

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blitzcrankThumbsUp

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 1:12 PM

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whenever alliance raid comes out iirc

edgy sail Mar 5, 2021, 1:12 PM

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One more q, are the crafted glamour prisms the same in function as regular ones? I checked the wiki and it says weaving gives you weaving prisms

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 1:12 PM

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they are the same

edgy sail Mar 5, 2021, 1:12 PM

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Cool, tysm :)))

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 1:12 PM

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you can use any crafter to craft them

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np

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you can buy them off the marketboard too if you like

restive grail Mar 5, 2021, 1:13 PM

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whats the point of redraw for ast?

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 1:13 PM

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if the card isnt what you want

restive grail Mar 5, 2021, 1:13 PM

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oh wait nvm i can draw still without a card

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 1:13 PM

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doesnt give the right seal, all your melees have cards and you draw another melee card etc

restive grail Mar 5, 2021, 1:14 PM

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thought they changed ast to have only one card now

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 1:14 PM

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they did

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so if that one card isnt what you want

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you can draw another

restive grail Mar 5, 2021, 1:14 PM

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oh yeah mb

deep gyro Mar 5, 2021, 1:14 PM

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dw ast is confusing at first

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 1:20 PM

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do I lose out on anything by turning down party effects because I cannot see a single thing

zinc orbitBOT Mar 5, 2021, 1:21 PM

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pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 1:21 PM

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not really

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I don't think personally

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better that you're playing well than playing badly and seeing things that are sparkly

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means if you want to know what your friends are doing though you might be a bit 'hmm'

ancient whale Mar 5, 2021, 1:22 PM

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I CANT Fly in heavensward?

terse roost Mar 5, 2021, 1:23 PM

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You'll be able to, but you need to complete some quests and find all the aether currents

ancient whale Mar 5, 2021, 1:23 PM

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is it hard?

wintry chasm Mar 5, 2021, 1:24 PM

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Nah

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Just gotta find aether currents across the map and also some sidequests

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And you get a compass for finding the ones across the map

vital ruin Mar 5, 2021, 1:26 PM

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How to get demimateria of the inferno

wintry chasm Mar 5, 2021, 1:29 PM

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Can desynth Ifrit weapons for it

vital ruin Mar 5, 2021, 1:31 PM

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1 per weapon?

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 1:33 PM

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the next questline I need to do after crystal tower is the other quest that starts at syele, right

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 1:35 PM

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should be in your uh corner

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your msq thing

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top left

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 1:36 PM

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I still have the msq that's before crystal tower is required

modern sorrel Mar 5, 2021, 1:36 PM

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I have a question about the upcoming server merge with Endwalker

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Does this mean we can all join different servers for free at any time to play with different folks

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or are there restrictions

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 1:37 PM

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I'm not sure? I think if you did CT you can go back to msq

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 1:39 PM

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what is the ifrit, garuda and titan hard mode questline cuz I cant find anything about that

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 1:39 PM

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Oh uh

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That’s later I think

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 1:40 PM

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@modern sorrel we don't know any details yet, but presumably there will be at least as many restrictions as already exist on the world visit system.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 1:40 PM

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Unless? Wait is that what it’s asking of you rn

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 1:40 PM

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it's not asking anything I just wanted to complete these before continuing ARR so I can finish it without interruptions

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 1:40 PM

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devout lichen what is the ifrit, garuda and titan hard mode questline cuz I cant find anything...

Go to the Waking Sands and start with the quest "A Recurring Problem"

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You must complete them before finishing ARR.

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 1:40 PM

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there it is ^ doesn't minfilia give it?

devout lichen Mar 5, 2021, 1:41 PM

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I already have that accepted that's not what I'm saying

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 1:41 PM

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or is that the other one

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 1:41 PM

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that's the beginning of the questline

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 1:41 PM

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no greg's right there's two aren't there

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hard mdoe and non hard mode

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 1:41 PM

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no

modern sorrel Mar 5, 2021, 1:41 PM

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I suppose the market won't be affected by this because of the problems that would cause, but there are no specifics as to how it will work yet? There is a service to pay for a server transfer, and I was considering it for some time, but now I'm wondering it I should do it or wait for EndWalker

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 1:41 PM

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?

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 1:41 PM

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non-hard mode are the ones done during the MSQ 1-50

pulsar escarp Mar 5, 2021, 1:41 PM

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yep

harsh nexus Mar 5, 2021, 1:41 PM

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dumb question, but shared hotbar are between classes/jobs, right ? Not characters ?

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 1:41 PM

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modern sorrel I suppose the market won't be affected by this because of the problems that woul...

server transfer transfers your home world.

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 1:42 PM

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harsh nexus dumb question, but shared hotbar are between classes/jobs, right ? Not character...

that's correct

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there is already a world visit system in place to visit other worlds on the same data center as your home world.

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There are restrictions on what you can do on worlds that aren't your home world: chiefly owning a house, being in a free company, and selling on the marketboard are not allowed.

modern sorrel Mar 5, 2021, 1:42 PM

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The data center shares the markets of all workds, or do worlds have their own markets?

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 1:43 PM

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All worlds have their own markets.

modern sorrel Mar 5, 2021, 1:43 PM

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Ohhhh

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that makes more sense to me now thanks

jade quartz Mar 5, 2021, 1:43 PM

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Currently when world visiting you can buy from other worlds' market boards, but not sell.

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So there is still a point to transferring your homeworld if you want to have a house or free company on a different world.

modern sorrel Mar 5, 2021, 1:44 PM

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Okay so not much is going to change when Endwalker drops then

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You'll just be able to visit different data centers?