Hagakure is important for dot alignment and Tsumbae line up
#questions-and-help
faint flare
little swift
So there's the base tool for 80k gil. Then there's the first 2 steps that result in the dragonsung tool
Then there's 2 more steps resulting in the skysung
cloud lake
got the dragonsung tool
little swift
and one last step for the maxed out glowing skybuilders tool
cloud lake
guess I'll go back to foundation
@little swift Do I talk to Neillemard for the next part of relic?
little swift
Iirc its outside the skysteel manufactory
cloud lake
@little swift Alright thank you. Guess I got some work to do. Hopefully its not as tedious as the first part
cloud lake
fffff rip
little swift
Per tool
jovial tide
Is it worth holding onto brotherhood to align with chain stratagem or just use whenever it's off CD?
faint flare
No, use on cooldown
Holding leads to lost usages
Which is a 100% lost
It will naturally line up later in the fight
high badge
why are 60+ treasure maps so expensive people run them in groups I try to get the highest level available map but should I run them alone or try to get a group?
cloud lake
where can I find the 90 pots? I'm looking through the skysteel stuff but I don't see it
slate arrow
90 pots?
You build the oddly specific stuff which you then turn in for the gobbygoo shite which is them turned in to augment
cloud lake
Oh
strange coral
Denys in the manufactury is the gobbiegue merchant
Under Oddly Specific Materials Exchange
cloud lake
So every cloth I makeat collectability 2000 will net me 2 pots and I'm assuming the next step is the other pot
forest sage
yeah
it's best if you max collectability if possible though
you get 5 per craft instead so it goes a lot faster
cloud lake
i'll do my best
devout lichen
oh one thing I forgot, I read that you can't download the expansion until you actually have it, is that right
remote lintel
yes
strange coral
why are 60+ treasure maps so expensive people run them in groups I try to get th...
Older maps still drop valuable stuff and the portal dungeons are level synced so you can't just solo them with a level 80 class.
devout lichen
so is it the base game that's 60gb or base game + all expansions
slate arrow
closer to 40gb with everything tbh
devout lichen
oh really? steam recommends 60gb space but if its lower then nice
strange coral
Mine's 50GB with all expansions
delicate field
50gb as well here
devout lichen
that's good then, cheers
forest sage
you need some additional space to download stuff probably
strange coral
Looking at the expansion folders. ARR+HW seems to be about 33GB
slate arrow
That's only ps4
lone violet
hey I remember someone saying that you can farm for trial mounts even if unsynced before the latest patch
is that true ?
lone violet
before shadowerbringers
forest sage
well yeah you can farm all the pre ShB content unsynced
strange coral
Old expansion EX mounts are still farmable. Patch hasn't changed anything.
warm snow
Just remember that most content past arr isn't viable to farm solo
lone violet
gotcha
so if I find a mount I like that is in arr and drops by a primal I can farm it unsync to get it ?
lone violet
ok good thing im 80 then lol
night walrus
what's the fastest way to lvl a dps class from 60-71?
mystic blaze
Question. How are the dungeons and raiding in this game? I just did a dungeon yesterday and it was pretty alright
remote lintel
dungeons and normal/alliance raids are casual content
!faq altlvlguide @night walrus
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mystic blaze
dungeons and normal/alliance raids are casual content
That’s good.
I so far like how more non-competitive and chill FF14 compared to wow
Plus I’m a fan of final fantasy
remote lintel
there's no reason to compete
mystic blaze
In wow?
remote lintel
in ff14
mystic blaze
Yeah. That’s what I like
warm snow
I mean there is pvp, put it's not the main focus
It's locked away on its own island
For reference the harder content will almost always be denoted with (EXTREME) or (SAVAGE)
mystic blaze
I came here for the pve content. Plus the fact of it being a final fantasy game with social features
warm snow
The dungeons honestly get better as time goes on, the arr content suffers from a good bit of first game syndrome.
mystic blaze
Yeah. I’m now level 27 and while I wasn’t convinced when I started a few times, the main storyline now seems captivating to me
remote lintel
ARR is a slow burn but it sets up literally everything that happens
warm snow
Arr is 90% World building and it shows.
lone violet
what can I do with the armor that I can't sell to vendors or to the market board ?
oh wait
nvm
materia
warm snow
Desynth to level that if you've unlocked on crafters
Trade in blue/green stuff to your Grand company for seals
strange coral
Extracting materia from gear doesn't destroy it anymore.
lone violet
ok what about things I can't get matria from ?
is there no harm to just discard them ?
and I can't sell them
scarlet arrow
if you mean old gear you aren't wearing anymore you can exchange them for GC seals if you've achieved the appropriate rank (2nd Lt IIRC)
warm snow
2nd corporal
fleet kettle
Heyya does someone wanna help me to clear E6N ? i want to run till 12 so i can unluck all on savage 🙂 (Light)
scarlet arrow
well that one then
lone violet
im first lieutenant but I am capped on seals as well
warm snow
Heyya does someone wanna help me to clear E6N ? i want to run till 12 so i can u...
#603040914096783371 or whatever data center you're on
warm snow
im first lieutenant but I am capped on seals as well
Become a coke dealer
fleet kettle
Aww thanks i change to #603040914096783371
warm snow
Or start stockpiling items for the anima weapons cuz that's where relic glamour peaked
scarlet arrow
I also will sometimes just buy a bunch of moonstones if I need to dump seals that can be sold to vendors for 1200 gil each. it's certainly not the most efficient usage of seals but it's there
warm snow
unless you're a warrior
mystic blaze
Does this game also have mini games like in past final fantasy games? Can I go fishing? lol
remote lintel
you can't buy most anima mats until you've done the steps before
there is a fishing class
it's a gatherer
warm snow
you can't buy most anima mats until you've done the steps before
You can buy pneumite and the trade in materials without having done the step
mystic blaze
Can I farm for rocks like wow?
warm snow
Theres also miner and botanist
warm snow
There's 3 gathering classes: miner, Fisher, botanist
lone violet
what should I spend my GC seals that I am capped in
remote lintel
promotion
lone violet
making better investments
scarlet arrow
Does this game also have mini games like in past final fantasy games? Can I go f...
short answer: yes. Long answer: oh you sweet summer child 😅
warm snow
You can join the guild for each class in uldah, limsa and gridania respectively
lone violet
can't promote from lieutenant
warm snow
what should I spend my GC seals that I am capped in
I told you to become a coke dealer
lone violet
how does one become a coke dealer
remote lintel
glamour prisms, ventures, tp tickets
warm snow
Buy coke and sell it on the market board
scarlet arrow
captain rank requires you to finish 5 separate dungeons with your adventurer squadron
warm snow
Iirc you can only buy tp tickets to your Grand company
mystic blaze
short answer: yes. Long answer: oh you sweet summer child 😅
Lmao. I got a feeling in for quite a surprise.
lone violet
where do I buy the coke ? from my FC ?
warm snow
Yeah
lone violet
*GC
scarlet arrow
gathering and crafting is basically a separate sub-game within FFXIV
remote lintel
there's also the gold saucer
scarlet arrow
there's also the Gold Saucer which is nothing BUT minigames
warm snow
Ff14 is a final fantasy game first mmo second, so to actually progress to new areas/ content its 90% locked behind progressing the main story
lone violet
Should I get a apartment in this game ?
remote lintel
if you want
lone violet
I just want to move my furniture items to somewhere lol
warm snow
Odds are you won't be able to get a house without serious time/gil investment
lone violet
can I move all my stuff from my apartment to a home if I ever get one with a FC ?
strange coral
Yes
warm snow
You can also use your retainers for item storage
lone violet
so how does the coke business work ?
warm snow
Unless you're on free trial, but iirc you can't even get an apartment on trial
lone violet
does it have a turnout rate for gill if I drop a bunch of gil ?
warm snow
You sell it on the market board for gil
Or stockpile glamour prisms for the true endgame
If you want stuff to spend your gc seals on
lone violet
ok
spent some on the store for furniture
might get a apartment in this game
but def will buy some coke to sell
manic flare
maybe the wrong place to ask this? but this is meme at all accurate? there's no way to have 20 mil gil and still be a beginner
wheat plume
I just did one of alexander, dunno which one, but in final battle there were 2 tanks (vehicle) and I rode one, but what to do after EP runs out? there was a recharge action and other one, both didnt require EP but i didnt know how they worked, the other vehicle started grabbing metal balls
slate arrow
I just did one of alexander, dunno which one, but in final battle there were 2 t...
Dismount with the stance button
wheat plume
yeah, but what to do while on tank
warm snow
Use the claw to drag bombs away
wheat plume
can I recharge EP with the recharge action?
are the other actions worth to do, do they do damage, or the only objective is to drag bombs?
wheat plume
how many of those tanks are there? only 2?
rigid wolf
Possible for anyone on aether to make a crecent moon nightgown? Ill buy if possible
little swift
!recipe crescent moon nightgown
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little swift
if you bring materials over to any crafter they'll typically oblige
rigid wolf
Ah
little swift
tipping them is something you should do though
rigid wolf
Not sure i can get those mats tho
little swift
gil is pretty easy to come by
check the market board for them
server hop to compare prices
rigid wolf
Ok ty
little swift
like for me if you bring me the mist silk and silk thread i'd do it for you
rigid wolf
Oh really
little swift
because its no skin off my back for a 2 button craft
fresh wing
Can we only get 1 lv80 class gear? or can we buy it for other class too
slate arrow
so majority of the players in this game run around with 20 mil gil or more?
More like the upper 10 percent of most players
rigid wolf
Ok could we do that?
lone violet
manic flare
ok that's what i thought
i thought i was missing something when it came to acquiring gil
little swift
sure let me get on and you can meet me by the sargatanas limsa aetheryte
rigid wolf
Great leme buy the stuff
remote lintel
@fresh wing you have to do the role quests
little swift
some people spend a lot of time sitting around playing the marketboard for money its not uncommon to do that
lone violet
why can't I do daily 80 dungeons ?
remote lintel
do msq
warm snow
He's uneducated
remote lintel
you haven't unlocked them
warm snow
Never went to the akademy
lone violet
but I have level 80 dungeons ?
remote lintel
the roulette is the most recent lvl 80
lone violet
oh ok
rigid wolf
Oh hahaha. 1 mist silk is 900k
remote lintel
oh
warm snow
Go unlock the bleu bubble dungeons that came with base 5.0
rigid wolf
Sry didnt know
remote lintel
you didn't do the side quest dungeons @lone violet
warm snow
They're a prereq
remote lintel
akadaemia anyder and the twinning prob
warm snow
The one that slaps in crystarium and the akademy in tempest
little swift
Sry didnt know
https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Mist_Silk
its a rare map drop
warm snow
Yike
warm snow
Probably cheaper to gambke on the maps
remote lintel
you need to do msq
warm snow
Yeah go back to the tempest
rigid wolf
Ahh
remote lintel
and akadaemia
rigid wolf
Damn
little swift
this is why you have to bring materials to the crafter
forest lark
What do people mean by "I hate bots on mb"
remote lintel
undercutting
forest lark
The ones that keep lowering asking price?
little swift
yes
forest lark
Cause I swear I am selling something and someone keeps lowering orice lol its so annoying
little swift
some bots are programmed to detect something being lowered past them and immediately lowering their own prices
forest lark
Was just wondering if these are so called bots
delicate field
Are bots just UI automation or there are some API out there?
little swift
some program that breaks tos
warm snow
Bots are against tos if that's what you're asking
little swift
would be the lightest way to put it
forest lark
Oh, alright then I didnt really know about this cause I obly revently started using mb for earning gil, but i notice ppl always lowering the price if I put lowest already
little swift
lowest price isn't always the best
you can lose money this way
and some people only want to make a quick buck
forest lark
Yeah Im thinking Ill put higher and just leave it sit there ubtil its sold
delicate field
If I sell something on the MB i always sell it cheaper than the cheapest so it sells first
little swift
if its something in demand it'll sell if the price is reasonable
forest lark
Aha ok then thx
tidal yarrow
can I make as many characters i want as long as I'm staying in the 8 limit?
tidal yarrow
why not?
tacit jungle
For gathering, is there a minimum gathering/perception threshold I want to be pushing for?
remote lintel
@tidal yarrow you can't make more than 1 character on the same world on entry
south roost
How much time would it take to farm 50k gathering white scripts?
south roost
What's the best method as fisher to get white scripts?
tacit jungle
level botanist or miner. it might be faster. lol
tidal yarrow
<@218878717135552512> you can't make more than 1 character on the same world on ...
but i currently have 2 characters on excalibur?
south roost
I have all 3 maxed
tacit jungle
based on spawn times you can set up a route with min/btn to go around the world getting white scrip items
it's so much faster than fishing as you're not relying on rng
tidal yarrow
i dunno honestly..
little swift
i dunno honestly..
you can check your sub type on the mogstation
it'll say standard or entry
south roost
How would I do that... I'm fairly new to the game and just used Ocean Fishing/Diadem to level to 80. I've never done collectables
tidal yarrow
am I paying more?
little swift
a little
little swift
like 2 bucks a month
remote lintel
for standard
little swift
!faq subprice
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devout lichen
is the standard one even worth it or 1 character is enough
tacit jungle
Hey Greg!
little swift
not many people play more than 1 character, much less multiple on the same world
if anything some people play on different data centers but thats about it
tacit jungle
How would I do that... I'm fairly new to the game and just used Ocean Fishing/Di...
What you want to do is go to the collectible appraiser and see what white script items are in demand that day. Both for botanist and minor. then open them all up in your gathering log and it will tell you what times they spawn, they'll all be in 2 hour Windows like midnight to 2:00 a.m.
pseudo ether
Does anyone have a discord that does Delubrum Reginae (Savage) ? Havent done any of it ... so would be nice to get into it to somehow get the cerberus mount 😒 but cant really find a discord that welcomes newcomers
tacit jungle
Line them all up in order based on time and just do several loops of that
little swift
do you have any savage experience at all?
we should probably also specify misterzin refers to Eorzea time for collectable windows
devout lichen
hi zin
pseudo ether
I mean i did a few savage runs a while ago ( ramuh fight + irfrit and garuda ) but since then i havent done any , and all the discord i have found so far struggle to take newcomers since they are nearly done or because its to rough to get newcomers through
naive kraken
Does anyone have a discord that does Delubrum Reginae (Savage) ? Havent done any...
the aether bozja/BA has a fresh prog group
remote lintel
they're on chaos
naive kraken
Does anyone have a discord that does Delubrum Reginae (Savage) ? Havent done any...
dunno about your server though
remote lintel
it would be in #resources
pseudo ether
😒 yea im on Chaos
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delicate field
@south roost do you need to finish SB to get access to diadem?
strange coral
No, you need to finish 3.3 MSQ, so middle of post-HW.
haughty hemlock
haunting and vextasomething memories. Do I grind fates for them or alliance raids, which is faster?
pseudo ether
Guess its time to save 600$ For cerberus 
south roost
No, you need to finish 3.3 MSQ, so middle of post-HW.
^
delicate field
@strange coral how do i get in? I'm at 4.x
warm snow
haunting and vextasomething memories. Do I grind fates for them or alliance raid...
Fates are still rng, so could be longer but they've been buffed so probably faster
naive kraken
buffed fates are still fairly low RNG
went 12 with zero drops
60% drop is about 20% by squeenix standards
strange coral
I started doing the fate grind (post hotfix) and wasn't happy with it, so switched to alliance raid grind instead.
Got 1 memory in about 30 mins of fates I think. But still RNG is RNG. Maybe I would have gotten more the next 30 mins if I kept going.
naive kraken
80%is about 35% by squeenix rng
little swift
please don't spread shitposty jokes as facts here 
manic flare
is there a way to hide macro generated text?
sometimes the macro takes up the entire textbox
strange coral
Like other people's macros you mean?
manic flare
Like other people's macros you mean?
yes
strange coral
I don't think there's anything you can do to distinguish if it came from a macro or someone typed it out. You'd have to disable that chat channel, such as party chat.
manic flare
oh i didnt know you could do that
signal aspen
do the beast tribe dailies in SB have any calculator for helping with HQ?
warm snow
no but the crafts are usually super easy
rigid wolf
I bought an item for a friend but cant find the code to give him any idea where that might be?
little swift
can fiddle in teamcraft
little swift
I bought an item for a friend but cant find the code to give him any idea where ...
it'll be in your mogstation store purchase history
rigid wolf
Damn ok thought i checked that ill look again ty
signal aspen
is there a certain item level I would need to be to make it a bit easier?
warm snow
crafters are super gear/stat dependent so maybe meld and/or upgrade your gear
little swift
make sure to use all your skills properly too
cloud lake
So in order to make the skybuilders relic weapon I have to go into diadem? That sucks D:
warm snow
you can buy the crafting mats on mb if it's that important
forest lark
So i got today leatherworker to 74, blacksmith to 74 qnd alch to 70 today
little swift
So in order to make the skybuilders relic weapon I have to go into diadem? That ...
yes the last step requires expert recipe completion which is yellow scrip and diadem node stuff. but you can buy it from marketboard
forest lark
That was fast
faint flare
They're given to you
cloud lake
@warm snow Even the approved stuff from diadem?
cloud lake
If its a lot I guess i'll grind but man I hate diadem
manic flare
you don't buy the beast tribe materials?
there's a special section in the crafting log for beast tribe crafted items
i believe it's called special recipes or something
warm snow
the tribe will supply you with the materials during the quest
even multiples if you screw up
manic flare
you have to gather or buy the crystals or the shards yourself though
delicate field
how do I get to diadem from firmament? nobody is giving me quests or anything
warm snow
go to the stall on the left
delicate field
got it,t hx
raven burrow
hey , how important are positionals for drg ?
faint flare
Very
strange coral
Very
faint flare
Goes for all melees
twilit arch
basically for melee, you should be aiming to hit positionals always
raven burrow
twilit arch
make use of true north whenever you aren't going to be able to hit them
raven burrow
how many does drg have
twilit arch
thats why it exists
warm snow
mechanics > positionals > other
forest lark
Red mage doesnt have any dots eight?
faint flare
No
twilit arch
no, rdm has no dots
warm snow
not yet
raven burrow
why are positionals so important ? i mean for NIN , its like a 50 potency increase for both skills. isnt it better to execute the rotation faster for more apm ?
faint flare
Lost potency is lost damage
warm snow
you're not a caster
slate arrow
it's better to keep your GCD rolling yes
faint flare
Which adds up EXTREMELY fast
slate arrow
but you want to maximize damage if you can
warm snow
you move as you attack
forest sage
potency is potency
slate arrow
however a dead DPS is doing no DPS
twilit arch
50 potency lost every time you miss a positional adds up over to the course of the fight
leaden ginkgo
If I want a specific relic anima weapon from its parts for another job, do I have to do it all from the very beginning?
faint flare
You have a full 2.5s to move to your positional
warm snow
yes
faint flare
As you wait on the gcd
forest sage
NIN positionals are ridiculously easy
raven burrow
hmhm yeah okay fair enough
faint flare
Plus you can pre position for positionals
forest sage
it's like back most of the time and side once every 40secs or whatever
faint flare
Or true north
raven burrow
yeah im not saying theyre hard , i just dont enjoy MNK alot cause of the permanent movement
was wondering if DRG is the same
twilit arch
lets say you use the skill 15 times over the fight, and you miss 5 of those positionals
faint flare
Positionals are basically what makes melee a melee
forest sage
well MNK is a separate thing but the others you just hit them every now and then
twilit arch
you have lost 250 potency over the entire fight
forest sage
the losses aren't crippling but they do add up so you always want to hit positionnals when possible, sometimes it isn't possible though so you just don't
twilit arch
for dragoon, you're always going to have to do positional at the end of your combo
raw granite
I can't find the scrip exchange dude selling the level 1 master books, I only see the lvl 3
warm snow
lv1 master books are special
faint flare
Dragoons rotation are static so you're always doing the same movement
twilit arch
they're from exchanging a crafted item to talan in mor dhona
forest sage
master 1 and 2 are in mor dhona, they're not scrips but stupid crats instead
warm snow
as are lv2
raw granite
goddammit
forest sage
you'll need them for the books, or the books use them or whatever
you can absolutely ignore those books until later though, I'd recommend it personally
leaden ginkgo
I couldn't reach the timer for duty and the game said my penalty is increased(?) even though it's been more than a year since I last lost a timer. Will I get banned forever from the game if I don't join a duty on time?
twilit arch
the demimateria you'll need are items from desynthing gear
raw granite
I feel like I'm going to hate the process of procuring the books
forest sage
they're very easy to do with lvl 80 stuff, but annoying to do at 50(kinda)
warm snow
you can't get banned from missing timers
raw granite
I'm at lvl60 sort of
warm snow
but you can get banned from using DF for half an hour
twilit arch
all that happens is the time you're locked out from doing Df increases
with each penalty
raw granite
I'm using the deliveries to optimize leveling, but sometimes they ask for master recipes
which is a major dickmove
forest sage
also potd/hoh/bozjan/eureka even though they don't use the actual DF
twilit arch
duty finder
warm snow
That is a terrible way to optimize crafting levelling
just... wow
just finish 3.3 content and go through the diadem
raw granite
I mean if I only do the starred ones I get the most bang for my buck
warm snow
and custom deliveries weekly
warm snow
then just do the diadem
cloud lake
Can anyone explain on crafting the rhea cloth? it goes blue which I think that bad but idk sturdy I think its called? I thought I had a good rotation but the HQ part barely went up
forest lark
Is there a better gear for crafters after handsaint
raw granite
I don't know what the diadem is
leaden ginkgo
Wait, what? You can get banned if you use duty finder?
twilit arch
Aesthete @forest lark
warm snow
no
leaden ginkgo
I've been using it for hours everyday...
warm snow
you can get banned from it
forest lark
Doesnt aesthete have worse stats
twilit arch
base stats, sure but it can be overmelded
scarlet arrow
was wondering if DRG is the same
as a DRG (and any melee tbh) you basically want to hang out right at the junction of flank and rear as much as possible to minimize the movement needed to get your positional
twilit arch
so it in the end can have more stats than hand/landsaint
warm snow
not including skybuilder's relic iirc
delicate field
@leaden ginkgo if you miss queue you get "Strikes", after 3 strikes and more - you get locked out of duty finder for 30 minutes as a penalty
leaden ginkgo
From it? As in? Not able to do duty?
warm snow
yeah
twilit arch
but that said, melding aesthete is likely going to be costly so if you aren't going to be doing any serious end-game crafting then land/handsaint is more than fine
rose fox
I lvl 70 and just discovered zodick weapons. Are there a way to lvl up the weapon so it be worth the grind to get it.
twilit arch
old relics are only for glam
leaden ginkgo
<@456226577798135808> if you miss queue you get "Strikes", after 3 strikes and m...
And, will this ever decrease/refresh again? Or each time it will keep going up to 30 mins and above?
raven burrow
as a DRG (and any melee tbh) you basically want to hang out right at the junctio...
mhm yeah , thats what i do with NIN so shouldn't be too hard
warm snow
HW has relics as does SB and ShB
twilit arch
they are not worth getting as weapons themselvs
warm snow
although in terms of glamour we peaked at HW
delicate field
@leaden ginkgo it's only 30 minutes penalty. never more. it resets every 24h
rose fox
Damn it
leaden ginkgo
<@456226577798135808> it's only 30 minutes penalty. never more. it resets every ...
Okay, that's very fair.
Thank you.
forest sage
shb has some good ones already tbh
twilit arch
opinions~
warm snow
I'd be happy to be surprised but most of the latest relics are discount anima...
raven burrow
yeah , but alot of the new ones are a step down
twilit arch
not really the place to argue about it
raven burrow
like DRG , NIN and DRK
rose fox
Eureka loot it is then; thanks
warm snow
eureka relics will be about even with the augmented scaevan gear you can buy with poetics tomes
not worth going out of your way for unless you want more glam options
rose fox
Is that so? Thx for the info
Last question is there a way to buy the SHB main theme. Its so good I want to own it.
remote lintel
the shadowbringers album is on the SE store
rose fox
The SE store. Wouldn't think to look there. Thanks again. I will finish post SB quest by tommorrow and I want to hyped myself up
warm snow
enjoy yourself
flat yew
Is it fine for me to Rescue a BLM out of their leyline if they are in a giant red zone or should I leave them there? On the one hand I feel like that's my job as a SCH, on the other I'm worried they might have intended to somehow tank through the damage and didn't want to leave
hollow cloak
Is there a grandcomiany in Marlboro with open
remote lintel
if theyre not moving then rescue them
warm snow
they have a skill to TP to another player and the back
remote lintel
although some blms will teleport at the last second
warm snow
so darwinism should be allowed to happen
flat yew
hrm
I guess I have to weigh a lesson learned for the BLM against a potential mp waste on my raise
warm snow
you might end up stopping their cast and pissing them off
flat yew
yea that's what I was worried about
lone violet
so what does the quest "talos interrupted" unlock ?
warm snow
beast tribe iirc
faint flare
Yes
flat yew
to be fair, in the dungeon that made me think about this anyway I always got put under pressure by a tank who wanted to rush as fast as possible so I just defaulted to casting Rescue but I'll keep the BLM teleport in mind
south roost
Is there a way to add things to your timer list? I just saw someone with Rowan's house of splendor on their list and I don't have it
faint flare
They always unlock SOMETHING
warm snow
there's an alarm system in game
remote lintel
house of splendors isnt on timers anymore iirc
warm snow
but it resets every time you log in
strange coral
Is there a way to add things to your timer list? I just saw someone with Rowan's...
That's an old screenshot/video then
south roost
house of splendors isnt on timers anymore iirc
But why though....
That's really unfortunate
remote lintel
because theres no need for it
south roost
Is there another way to check what level of collectable you need other then going to the appraiser in person now
flat yew
is it valid to tell your tank to go a bit slower?
warm snow
yes
twilit arch
basically, rule of thumb is: if its a non timed node item the min collectability is 400, if its a time noded item min collectability is 600
flat yew
I had trouble keeping up with the heals, them dropping down to almost-dead multiple times, forcing me to clutch spam Lust and Dissipation because they pulled figuratively everything at once
leaden ginkgo
If someone's been toxic to me, calling me names and all that, how do I report? Right click on their name "rmt report" ? because, that's all it has
remote lintel
then tell them not to pull big
remote lintel
If someone's been toxic to me, calling me names and all that, how do I report? R...
system > support desk > contact us > report or whatever it is
flat yew
is the problem with them pulling too much then, or with me not doing enough heals?
warm snow
say you're still learning and if they're not a prick they'll usually pull less
gusty siren
it's fine to ask a tank to slow down
twilit arch
its a bit hard to say tbh
warm snow
it can easily be both
gusty siren
imo its up to the tank to respect that
warm snow
but from the sound of things you're learning and SCH is pretty hectic
gusty siren
i can understand they wanna go fast but if you're learning it's not always easy
flat yew
fortunately nothing happened in that dungeon run but I was kinda scared when they already aggro'd the final boss while someone else was still watching the cut-scene haha
leaden ginkgo
Whenever I start a big beefy run dung, I always say "big pulls tubro mode!" and start running in.
ionic hazel
if you skip a floor are you still eligible to get a book from the previous floor?
leaden ginkgo
if the healer can't or don't want to, they can just tell me and i pull less.
warm snow
if you skip a floor are you still eligible to get a book from the previous floor...
?? wut
twilit arch
not for current savage @ionic hazel
ionic hazel
ah
twilit arch
if you skip, you forfeit all loot from previous floors
ionic hazel
?? wut
my static cleared e12s last night and we skipped right into e12, was wondering if I could still get the book from the previous floors
ionic hazel
if you skip, you forfeit *all* loot from previous floors
well that sucks but atleast we cleared lul
warm snow
welp your loss, I only started savage raiding this tier, good to know
congrats on the e12s tho
remote lintel
if youre trying to get bis why would you skip
scarlet arrow
tbh if I could skip E9S I would, it seems so much more difficult than 10 or 11
zinc orbitBOT
scarlet arrow
but that's neither here nor there
flat yew
how far can I wear scaevan gear?
remote lintel
75 ish
remote lintel
typoed
warm snow
the 74 buyable/msq gear and the lv 75 dungeon gear will beat it in ilevel
flat yew
lvl 75 in terms of MSQ, right?
flat yew
oh that's awesome
warm snow
best in slot(bis) was mixed between that and the final tier of savage raids, and final form relics
flat yew
is there a weapon I can get like that too?
remote lintel
scaevan weapon
twilit arch
you can buy the scaevan weapon from eschina
flat yew
oh? is a poetics weapon a new thing with scaevan or was I just blind while getting ironworks and shire?
remote lintel
its the same thing in all expansions
twilit arch
the weapons are on different vendors
flat yew
ohh
twilit arch
so its easy to miss them
warm snow
scaevan is the SB equivalent to ironworks/shire
remote lintel
all the old endgame gear are on poetics
twilit arch
Auriana for ironworks, bertana for shire
warm snow
it'll be cryptlurker in a few months for people that aren't at endwalker yet
flat yew
can I even get scaevan when I only just started stormblood?
remote lintel
no
twilit arch
nop
remote lintel
you have to beat sb
flat yew
ah, bummer
remote lintel
thats how endgame works
leaden ginkgo
I completed shadowbringer recently what do i do with all the materia 5 and below? Do i transmute them
flat yew
so should I just get the rest of the shire gear for now?
delicate field
can someone tell me if im understanding firmament correctly. I go out and gather those special materials, then have the Appraiser appraise them, and then use a crafting profession to craft the stuff Potkin wants? is that the entire diadem/firmament loop?
twilit arch
can either sell on marketboard or transmute hoping for gathering/crafting materia @leaden ginkgo
warm snow
ye powercat
remote lintel
can someone tell me if im understanding firmament correctly. I go out and gather...
basically
remote lintel
so should I just get the rest of the shire gear for now?
did you beat stormblood
flat yew
no
warm snow
I completed shadowbringer recently what do i do with all the materia 5 and below...
sell, transmute, keep for your blu?
remote lintel
what msq level are you
remote lintel
then use shire until 65
delicate field
and the skybuilder scrips can't be used to buy any gatherer/crafting gears, right?
flat yew
what should I aim for after msg 65?
warm snow
no but you can buy the special mats for the crafting relics with them
remote lintel
use msq gear
warm snow
as well as mounts/minions
wind gorge
Is savage/extreme raids unlocked automatically after the story or do they all have separate quest to unlock them?
twilit arch
there's unlock quests for them
warm snow
separate
twilit arch
!faq contentunlock
zinc orbitBOT
delicate field
@warm snow ah i see. so when ppl say they grind it till level 80, they just go gathering all day every day?
warm snow
usually a blue bubble npc near where you accepted the original
open coral
You also have to do the Normal modes first before the Savage/Extreme version shows up.
warm snow
<@!127946615465050112> ah i see. so when ppl say they grind it till level 80, th...
Pretty much, the higher level materials are also worth more exp
so you can level a gatherer from 15-80 in a couple days in diadem, mix in a gear purchase and keeping up with job quests ofc
wind gorge
ahh ok
delicate field
I have like 60+ Leve left, should I just use them on gathering?
wind gorge
so do you have to do savage to get relic weapons?
twilit arch
no
remote lintel
no
warm snow
not really
twilit arch
if you're not using the leves on crafting, then feel free to use it on gathering
warm snow
it's the fastest option for part of the anima relic but that's HW content
delicate field
oh maybe ill keep them for crafting since it's more expensive
twilit arch
its not faster
remote lintel
savage content is always optional
warm snow
that's what the channel's for
twilit arch
diadem lets you be lazy and sit in one place effectively, but its not going to be faster experience because gathering exp itself isn't as high as the amount of exp from leves
doing leves while waiting for timed node collectables is going to be better exp
flat yew
iirc if you intend to also level crafters gathering at the diadem is definitely worth it because the xp crafting there is disgusting
wind gorge
I will come back to this channel when i finish shadowbringers 
scarlet arrow
come back any time 🙂
twilit arch
yes, diadem is good especially if you're going to be leveling crafters with restoration
because you're killing two birds with one stone
delicate field
it says the restoration is complete when i go there
scarlet arrow
you can keep doing it
twilit arch
restoration itself is permanent content, but the changes to the firmament are done
remote lintel
complete restoration just means no more fates will be there
flat yew
well you still have to get some random outside mats for restoration crafts but those are mostly inexpensive, like lemons or wheat
delicate field
are restoration craft the ones Potkin asks for?
twilit arch
yes
delicate field
ahh ok. I tried making something but I coudln't get high enough quality 😦
twilit arch
there's a pinned doc in #doh-dol-lounge with rotations for restoration
can give those a looksee
flat yew
not sure what level you are but I usually just use innovation, 4 precise touch, and two basic synth, which got me through the crafting for the most part, assuming i had the right gear
well, up to about lvl 60
delicate field
i guess ill read those pins
raven burrow
is there a know date for when we will be able to get the 520 crafted gear ?
little swift
Probably 5.5
raven burrow
patches are every 6 weeks ?
little swift
Major patches are 3.5 to 4 months apart
little swift
April 13 is the date for 5.5
warm snow
Give or take a massive covid spike
twilit arch
april 13th specifically
cloud lake
is it okay if I post a screenshot? Trying to do oddly delicate rhea cloth just not exactly sure how teamcraft works
warm snow
oh hey that's an expert craft
half kraken
Is the Gabriel mount a more common drop than the hairstyle in DR?
cloud lake
since it shows it on top
faint flare
Is the Gabriel mount a more common drop than the hairstyle in DR?
Same rarity
warm snow
yyeaahhhh, might want to practice craft that in game to get the hang of that as it'll all be highly state dependent
half kraken
That's so weird that the hairstyle is more than double the price of the mount then I figured mounts are more sought after than hair
Guess I was wrong
Or maybe that's just crystal shit
faint flare
Expert receipes are a whole different beast and cant necessarily be macroed
You need to actively use the procs
To your advantage
warm snow
yeah, Trial synthesis and read up on the procs
faint flare
Its a test of "do you know how to craft"
warm snow
all the procs have different effects
faint flare
I think there's a expert guide in #doh-dol-lounge
warm snow
yeah a bit too complex for here ngl
faint flare
That explains how to approach expert crafting
twilit arch
nah, even on primal hair's more expensive @half kraken
tender ice
!faq drkguide
zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
#kupo-bot-spam
manic flare
are the economies of various datacenters about similar or are there significant price differences on the marketboard?
flat yew
is there any interesting stuff a culinarian can cook at lvl 70-80?
little swift
There are big variances in price difference
Dependent on culture of the data center
But things still typically trend well for certain things
manic flare
There are big variances in price difference
take for example the gabriel alpha key
would the price be much lower in raid oriented datacenters?
little swift
I was thinking more along the lines of map glam items being much cheaper on japan
warm snow
I just saved 1mill by switching to zodiark to buy a gabriel II key
green grail
it's a rng lootbox drop from instanced content that's cross-world in a datacenter
twilit arch
everything is cheaper in JP
manic flare
I just saved 1mill by switching to zodiark to buy a gabriel II key
is that the bozja mount?
little swift
would the price be much lower in raid oriented datacenters?
No because its an rng lootbox drop that comes from casual content
Being a raid centric dc isn't relevant here
Nor is that really information thats grounded in fact
green grail
it's still a rng drop from basically casual content
doesnt have anything to do with "raid servers"
whatever that would even be nowadays that every static is cross-server
manic flare
which of the north american datacenters would have the cheaapest items on marketboard, generally speaking?
manic flare
take for example, level 80 weaver glams
green grail
you can do !market datacenter item in #kupo-bot-spam to get prices, though it's usually kinda delayed
warm snow
but stuff like that key would probably be cheaper on servers where a higher portion of the population is at endgame
green grail
it's literally just. random with people being able to check price on other servers and undercutting on the other world's price on their own
causing their server to undercut them
warm snow
oh boi I can't wait for data center transfer...
manic flare
i wonder if we will be able to access the marketboard during the data center visits
slate arrow
No reason why we couldn't
green grail
probably not but #retired-patch-6-3-discussion tbh
jade plume
so i have not played a MMO in over a decade plus and i have a bunch of people telling me this is the one to get into if your looking for a MMO steam has multiple versions of it and i see it has a monthly sub where exactly should i begin if i want to get into this
warm snow
!faq freetrial
zinc orbitBOT
little swift
Its a tank relic
little swift
Thats why
faint flare
Its normal
warm snow
probably the same
leaden ginkgo
Tank gear doesn't have dh on it by default
faint flare
Tankd and healers aren't offered DH
Cause its not on gear by default
You can only get dh on tanks and healers by melding it
warm snow
tanks get tenacity, dps don't
leaden ginkgo
You can meld DH onto tank/healer gear but no piece of tank/gear comes with DH as a substat
faint flare
No tank/healer gear in the whole game has DH on it innately
warm snow
perfectly balanced as all things should be
warm snow
savage eden axe won't have dh either
leaden ginkgo
Uhh PLD wants skill speed for better alignment
little swift
savage eden axe won't have dh either
War doesn't want dhit anyways
warm snow
I was saying that for kawa
jade plume
ok i am downloading the 40gb free trial version hopefully its fun
warm snow
ARR (the first 50 levels) are mostly world building so be a bit warned
jade plume
well i guess a free trial helps me decide if the game is worth 15 bucks a month
remote lintel
its 12.99 for entry sub
jade plume
i am in Cad
leaden ginkgo
The free trial doesn't even have a time limit, does it?
jade plume
so 12 american is like 15 cad
leaden ginkgo
I legit don't remember
remote lintel
SE doesnt charge tax
jade plume
oh wow
remote lintel
jade plume
thats pretty pricy for a mmo hopefully the trial shows me why this game is worth 17 cad a month
warm snow
SE doesnt charge tax
wait, that's illegal
faint flare
Its updated far more regularly than others
jade plume
because that is like 204 cad a year
leaden ginkgo
thats pretty pricy for a mmo hopefully the trial shows me why this game is worth...
FFXIV has zero p2w & stable servers/a dev team that listens
I'd say its worth it over $10 for BDO with shit servers, p2w everywhere, & a glorified casino
But hey, value is in the eye of the beholder
jade plume
so i can look cool in this game without paying insane prices for cosmetics
open coral
The sub price is actually the industry standard for sub-based MMOs. WoW's sub is exactly the same price.
warm snow
inflation's a bitch
remote lintel
but you can pay for a sub with in game currency in wow
open coral
That is true.
leaden ginkgo
so i can look cool in this game without paying insane prices for cosmetics
You'll pay about the same price as glam from BDO/Blade & Soul
jade plume
can you do a yearly sub at a discount like older mmos
leaden ginkgo
Yeah but it's WoW
jade plume
or is it just monthly
leaden ginkgo
Lol
remote lintel
!faq subprice
zinc orbitBOT
jade plume
180 days at max well thats interesting
open coral
You can do 6 month, which is a slight discount on the Standard sub price and equivalent to the Entry sub.
warm snow
1.0 was so bad, veterans of it get a lifetime discount but that's neither here nor there
leaden ginkgo
They do??
open coral
Yeah
jade plume
just been seeing vtubers i watch play it and such and i am like this seems neat
warm snow
yup
jade plume
and i keep hearing endless praise for this game
jade plume
and as a huge fan of older FF titles this seems to be good idea to get into
leaden ginkgo
The newest expansion really brought in a lot of new people
warm snow
it's been a great comfort in this current mess
open coral
If you enjoyed older FF games, you'll almost definitely love XIV as well. We say it a lot, and it's very true: this is a FF game first and an MMO second.
jade plume
just have to be careful i know in the MMO i used to play ages back a lot of players would scam trick or mess with new players often
open coral
People are actually really good around here.
jade plume
that is a surprise
i recall the mmo i played being a wild west almost in terms of who was good or bad
faint flare
GMs are very very on point with scams and harassment
warm snow
pvp is locked away on it's own island so I personally see that as helping against that type of thing
faint flare
Provided there's chat evidence
leaden ginkgo
I think it's because ffxiv is a sub game and therefore typically has a slightly older average age
open coral
We self-moderate the advice given in this Discord, and the community at large is pretty nice in general.
jade plume
oh cool so the free trial gets me 60 levels and some of the story then i can decide if i want to drop 17cad a month
which is as expensive as netflix
open coral
I think it's because ffxiv is a sub game and therefore typically has a slightly ...
WoW is a sub game, and the average age is like, 12, so that's not a measure of anything.
little swift
By some of the story its about 2 jrpgs worth
warm snow
oh cool so the free trial gets me 60 levels and some of the story then i can de...
said 60 levels is the whole base game + first expansion just for reference
faint flare
The story is basically netflix
leaden ginkgo
Xiv also has a pretty massive LGBT community if that's your thing, I know it was a draw for me at least
jade plume
well thats neat
leaden ginkgo
Yeah.. Thing about FFXIV is its very non-toxic, like the opposite of WoW
jade plume
yeah Silvervale has been playing this and a few other vtubers i watch and i am like hey that looks neat
leaden ginkgo
But it also attracts a lot of snowflakes
remote lintel
also youre not allowed to harass people using parsers so
jade plume
i am a fan of magic classes so hopefully magic is fun
delicate field
you get more content than netflix lol
warm snow
parsers are technically against tos
little swift
Not everyone uses act but people who do raid to some extent probably have had an encounter with it
faint flare
Plus you dont have to constantly stay subbed
You can drop it for abit and come back fine
leaden ginkgo
^ This
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
Its not like BDO/BnS/other grind fests, its a more casual experience
jade plume
true if your going to be busy with other new games you can drop and come back when you want
faint flare
You might be confused and not remember stuff buuuuut its easy to jump back into
remote lintel
the devs encourage players to take breaks from the game if they want to
faint flare
The devs even encourage taking breaks
remote lintel
and not play it like a job
faint flare
Everything will be here as you left it
tender ice
Is it worth ranking up my Grand Company?
leaden ginkgo
Yes
faint flare
Yes
tender ice
What does it give?
leaden ginkgo
You unlock the ability to buy housing, and uhh
faint flare
More seal caps, more items in the shop. Access to squadrons
faint flare
Ability to turn gear in for seals
tender ice
What's the best way of ranking it up? I see there are hunting logs for it
faint flare
Get the seals and buy the promotions...you do need to do the hunting log for some ranks
So keep all your seals and just buy promotions
left cedar
Is there a way to craft more than one item at a time when mass crafting?
I seem to recall sometimes crafting 2 of something?
twilit arch
you can quick synth most items
only really useful if you don't care about the quality
little swift
Some recipes will churn out multiple items for 1 set of ingredients
This is usually only food and potions though
left cedar
Ahh okay gotcha
lost sinew
What files should I back up if I want to make sure that my hotbars/gearsets/etc (anything not automatically stored server-side) are safeguarded until Endwalker comes out? I actually stopped playing after finishing the Shadowbringers MSQ a few months ago, but I definitely want to come back, and it would be pretty devastating to lose all that (I have every job leveled up to one degree or another).
faint flare
Do character backup at the character selection screen, that saves everything
Hotbars, gearset etc
lost sinew
Is that local or cloud?
faint flare
On their servers
remote lintel
it uploads it to the cloud
faint flare
Aka cloud
little swift
Can always also copy the character folders in your my games directory as well
lost sinew
Mmm... but if my sub is gonna be canceled for like... 6 months?
gritty oracle
Does Priority Seal Allowance work on expert deliveries?
faint flare
From anything
lost sinew
Hmm. Ok. I might go copy the character folders anyway, for added confidence.
The last thing I did before quitting after Shadowbringers MSQ was the cloud backup so I'm good there, I think.
gritty oracle
whats good 80 gear to Sb
In SB the best gear you can get is either your lv70 class coffer or augmented scaevan if you're done with the main expansion
hot eagle
70 and ilvl400
lost sinew
@little swift where are those character folders? I'm looking at C:\Program Files (x86)\SquareEnix\FINAL FANTASY XIV - A Realm Reborn but i don't see anything
faint flare
My games
leaden ginkgo
that gear is useless for materia viii???
faint flare
Under documents
lost sinew
ty, found it
little swift
Why are you melding lv70 gear thats pointless for jobs besides blue mage
lost sinew
weird that i have 2, but i'll just backup both
leaden ginkgo
im not melding 70 gear?
i literally said i need viii
i have 80 gear
but the SB is slow as shit
little swift
Melding isn't necessary for you now too
leaden ginkgo
it is
little swift
Since lvlsyncing won't account for melds
leaden ginkgo
when I unsync
little swift
And you're not going to be noticeably faster
little swift
Substat difference isn't going to be more important than proper rotation
leaden ginkgo
still want it
also ez gil
made 8m from selling gathering materia alone
imagine how much i can get from combat
little swift
Not as much tbh
Most people who need it have a healthy stockpile of their own from the content lull
plush quartz
Remember Raidcall guys.
leaden ginkgo
u say that yet it sells like crazy on market board
leaden ginkgo
i still have another heavy stacks of gathering materia to sell
i just wanna know what gea ris good for SB
obsidian patio
Using i500+ gear basically gives you stats as if it was scaevan with full melds
Due to how item level sync works
leaden ginkgo
so i should get scaevan gear for SB faster?
little swift
It won't be faster or slower with i400 or i500
leaden ginkgo
so why is there gear for crafting that makes SB faster
but for combat there isnt lol?
little swift
Theres no ilvl sync for instances for crafting and gathering
Your melds for those are mainstats as well
azure ivy
Games get updated and old things age
leaden ginkgo
so shouldnt I run gear that is lower ILVL?
little swift
Vs substat melding which is just minor minmax
leaden ginkgo
for more SB
little swift
No just take the most easily accessible highest ilvl stuff for the expansion
For sb that would be scaevan gear with poetics
And msq gear
And dungeon gear
little swift
Oh you're saying sb for spirit bond
little swift
No one refers to it like that normally
tidal yarrow
if i type /isearch shadowless the SAM helm won't show up, anyone can tell me why or how to resolve?
leaden ginkgo
yeah i forgot that lol my bad
leaden ginkgo
im farming level 80 with trust
little swift
510 will spiritbond more slowly on normal msq content
obsidian patio
if i type /isearch shadowless the SAM helm won't show up, anyone can tell me why...
Likely means you don’t have it at all. Sometimes you may need to open up your chocobobag storage, retainer inventories, or look into the glamour dresser to update those for /isearch
tidal yarrow
i thought isearch showed also the items you don't have
ugh.
i thought i had it aswell
leaden ginkgo
what set do u rec to use for spiritbonding MSQ?
little swift
People don't really worry about spiritbonding in msq
obsidian patio
Spiritbonding basically only happens in duties now, due to the recent changes.
little swift
But typically gear thatd on level to the duty you queue into
obsidian patio
In which case you’d use stuff at that duty’s level or slightly above it
leaden ginkgo
thats what i meant
im farming trust
my ILVL is 510
i think the quest ilvl is like 410 or w.e
so should I lower my ILVL?
obsidian patio
You’ll need to do level 80 dungeons to reliably spiritbond i510 gear.
leaden ginkgo
yes im doing level 80 dungeons
signal aspen
did they change ilvl syncing in past content?
obsidian patio
Even if it doesn’t have an explicit item level sync, duties will still sync your item level according to the best possible gear for that content.
obsidian patio
Sidequests in upper la noscea
signal aspen
if I'm in the vl 59 library for example how come I don't see yellow stats
I'm like 260
covert berry
scarlet arrow
if you log out there, sure
remote lintel
@covert berry you can just log out in sanctuaries
leaden ginkgo
so Spirit bonding is useless for combat and always slow
who drops defragmented tombstone?
little swift
the blades of lost antiquity are weekly locked
faint flare
You still need to wait 3 weeks for the 1000 revelation tomes if you get the drop anyway
If you didn't have 1k already
leaden ginkgo
im getting crypt gear then and ill stick to ilvl 510 gear
gloomy mortar
E10s drops how many blades?