questions-and-help

[quaint birch]

so i will stay level 30?

[faint flare]

Yes

[quaint birch]

do you not get the exp for the quests it skips?

[faint flare]

Nope

[delicate field]

what a rip off

[quaint birch]

i might like that as i love all questing more then anything

and the hunting log hunting logs been fun looking and exploring for monsters

[faint flare]

You lose all the rewards, exception to the stuff you can grt back from the salvager

Including the fantasia, thats gone

[quaint birch]

been told it will take about 30 days to complete MSQ. and i don't enjoy the idea of playing for 30 days running from Point A to B talk .. then run to point B TO C then talk. then run to point C to F then to A then complete.

[twilit arch]

hunting log doesn't exist after 50

[remote lintel]

it will take longer than 30 days to complete the entire msq

[quaint birch]

i don't want to change my appearance. are there any rewards i want to play upto?

[remote lintel]

this is a story based game so

[quaint birch]

i like the leveling questing and classes and have no intrest in the story

[remote lintel]

the fantasia is the only reward you lose iirc

[dire prawn]

The story is how you level, so...

[modest igloo]

if you don't like the story this probably isnt the game for you

[remote lintel]

i mean going from point A to point B and talking to npcs is questing

[dire prawn]

Not to mention most of your quests come from the story

[spare sapphire]

is it actually possible to buy an apartment or are they all taken

[twilit arch]

yes

[quaint birch]

i have spent the last 6 hours playing walking simulator for a story i don't care for. because i burned though all the quests and didn't unlike the other locations yet.

[twilit arch]

apartments are far more plentiful than houses

[faint flare]

Apartments are million times more plentiful

[quaint birch]

i can't turn in my quests for lower level classes though

[remote lintel]

everything in this game is story locked

other locations are story locked

and like i said walking around and talking to npcs is how quests work

[spare sapphire]

ok i will look harder

[quaint birch]

id aruge that

[twilit arch]

i would say start with the lower wards and look at those apartments first

[quaint birch]

questing cna be dungeon quests, mob quests. mini short quests.

[twilit arch]

since newer wards are more likely to have more apartments

[faint flare]

Those exist

[quaint birch]

my last 20 quests have just been talk to person at a and b. for 6 hours.

for people i have no care or investment in.

[remote lintel]

you get dungeons and trials every few levels

[faint flare]

There HAS to be a bridge

[quaint birch]

but now i feel like i will miss out on leveling if i skip the MSQ.

so now i don't know if i want to get the potion

[little swift]

!faq altlvlguide

[zinc orbit]

Leveling Guide for Alt jobs 🍻

Level 1 to 70 in five days (Stormblood)

[little swift]

if you end up skipping

since all teh dungeons required by MSQ will be unlocked

you can just go through them allas you need

[paper mauve]

If I lost access to my software token and do not have an emergency removal password am I out of luck on restoring access to my account?

[remote lintel]

all other quests are "collect this", "kill this" or "talk to this person"

[twilit arch]

you need to contact support @paper mauve

and have them remove it

[little swift]

you'd have to contact support about it @paper mauve. proving your account is yours is what you need to do

[paper mauve]

ok, I'll give that a try, thanks

[quaint birch]

i might just drop the game... it feels like you get punished really hard if you have no interest in the MSQ but like all the other stuff.

[faint flare]

The story is like 90% of the game

Its a final fantasy game first

[leaden ginkgo]

is dark knight auto replaced with flood of shadow and edge of shadow isntead of the two other skills?

[little swift]

you'll still have to do MSQ even if you buy the skip, becasue all it does it plop you at the start of teh most recent expansion

[faint flare]

Yes

[little swift]

just think of it as a series of quests

[leaden ginkgo]

Is there any point using the other two skills?

[faint flare]

They're automatically upgraded

[little swift]

they're used when you get synced down

[faint flare]

Into shadow variants

[leaden ginkgo]

wow daz really cool

it just auto changes

[little swift]

the buttons are upgraded the same way stone becomes stone ii

[modest igloo]

FF14 is a final fantasy game. it's not for everyone, and that's ok.

[leaden ginkgo]

daz so cool back when I played this did not occur and you had 2 do it manually

[faint flare]

Self upgrading skills was added in Shadowbringers

[quaint birch]

well i like the 10% of the game.. I adore the class system best class system i have seen. I love fates. i like dungeons. I love the mob design and texturing. i love the environment and occasional interacting with random players. i love the hunting log. it rewards for exploring my land scapes in a general location rather then being told to teleport to pirate castle then teleport to tree home, then teleport too desert area and talk to commoners then teleport back and turn in quest.

[paper mauve]

awesome, they already got me fixed up

[quaint birch]

its not like i dislike Final Fantasy story i love all the other games

oh i love the crafting system too

you cna expairment find a method and play with it.

[potent lava]

so for the free login campaign, itll end at 11:59 pm on the fourth day, regardless of the time you first activated it?

(like say 10pm on the first)

[delicate field]

@quaint birch ive been powering thru the game skipping all dialogue and cutscenes. it's not too bad

you can enjoy the dungeons in between

[twilit arch]

iirc when it ends depends when you started it, so you get the full 4 days

[plush quartz]

Hey guys, I brought a friend to the game and we're thinking about doing the normal raid through E12. He finished the original MSQ quests to open up the first tier of eden. After that does it then require additional MSQ or once the raid is unlocked can he just go through to E12?

[faint flare]

Yes

[little swift]

he needs to be caught up to 5.3 averitt

[faint flare]

5.3 is needed

[potent lava]

I see, guess the page is just being vague

[faint flare]

For 12

[plush quartz]

So how far can we go? We're on E4.

[little swift]

and he needs the ilvl

[plush quartz]

He is 510

[little swift]

he can get to e8

until he catches up to 5.3

because msq relevance to the plot of Eden

requires it

[quaint birch]

the combat is not the greatest in MMO's but i do love a lot of the classes, and i think the late game classes look really fun. Especially dancer, that's what i think is most exciting. I love the class quests. each with there there little stories.

i just feel like the story could have been told in better ways. and bits of story's are interesting i liked the part where you saw into the future of a war, it was very visually telling and made me wonder how are they going to deal with it, but i feel like the rest of that story won't actually be visually told but more "dialogue explanations and a dungeon with a boss at the end."

[remote lintel]

the story is visually told

a lot of FF players rank FFXIV's story as one of the best

it is the director's life work

[modest igloo]

That's ARR. it gets better with HW. up to you if you wanna invest your time.

[twilit arch]

just going to say that this isn't a vent channel, and this also isn't a place to sell you on the game. if you don't like the main story telling aspect that's fine

[slate arrow]

#rants is that way if you want to complain

[quaint birch]

well i am not judging the story for the expansions or late game. i giving my views as a new player. and as it stands currently. the story is not good.. and as everyone has confirmed "it sucks till you finish this part then it gets good." the Expansion storys might be god tier. but currently, i lost intrest.. and for the past 6 hours all i have done is open map, click crystal and have spent about 10'000 gill on Teleporting and just TALKING dudes. That is not very VISUAL for me.. maybe where the quest had me put on clothes. and talk to commoners and "starving beggars" was cool and visual. but that is one thing that has stuck with me so far. that and spear dude falling of a cliff.. i hope i see him again.

[slate arrow]

is this a question

no? #rants

[remote lintel]

nobody is saying "the story sucks until the end" anyway

i enjoyed the story from lvl 1

[quaint birch]

"not sucks" but.. "it gets better after ARR.." "ARR is boring" "Wait until heaven sword" "power though till this part".

[twilit arch]

please take this elsewhere, this isn't the channel for this conversation

[slate arrow]

Mentors aren't just a status, we do have limited moderation powers.

Please don't make us use them.

[leaden ginkgo]

is it just me or did tanking get way more intense/draining the moment you do your first shadowbringers dungeon ? currently lvl 71 GNB ,just wondering if this trend will continue

[remote lintel]

draining how

[twilit arch]

holmeinster can be a bit rough yeah

[little swift]

the first dungeon can be tough on mob damage

[remote lintel]

you can't pull too many groups in holminster

[faint flare]

The second big pull is spicy

[twilit arch]

the x1 dungeons can often be a bit steep in the dmg taken

[little swift]

but the bossfights themselves aren't any harder

[leaden ginkgo]

draining like i literally feel tired. It was smooth sailing for all of stormblood

and heavensward dungeons

[remote lintel]

its harder to w2w pull in some shb dungeons

[coral elk]

So I'm trying to buy items from the store as a FT player, because I read that option was now available for us. But upon the process, I get this prompt:

The information requested below is required to upgrade to a standard account.

Does this mean my account will go from FT to standard, and thus a subscription based one?

[remote lintel]

holminster being one

@coral elk what were you trying to buy

[little swift]

part of the challenge is also not having ilvl scaling and stat scaling to use to your advantage

[leaden ginkgo]

@remote lintel that makes perfect sense now

[little swift]

you're on current expansion content so things are scaled more appropriately

[coral elk]

Outfits

[remote lintel]

and yes that means you need to be a subbed account to buy some things

[coral elk]

Wow, so what can we buy from the store then as a ft player?

[remote lintel]

some outfits

[leaden ginkgo]

never had to hover superbolide this much till now

[remote lintel]

some mounts prob

they dont list what kinds of items you can buy

[little swift]

use it as part of your mitigation rotation. if you save it for only "oh shit" moments, you'll end up never using it

[quaint birch]

Was told i can buy food at golden saucer who sells the food there?

[little swift]

its a powerful cooldown and you can use it more than once every dungeon this way

the tap keeper

[remote lintel]

the tap keeper or whatever his name is

[leaden ginkgo]

the 6 min cool down made me scared

[little swift]

think about it this way kazzy

a dungeon run is about 15-20 minutes

thats up 3+ uses

[leaden ginkgo]

ironically ive never had to use it during a boss

[remote lintel]

the faster you use it the faster it goes on cd and oyu can use it again

[little swift]

and as i always say

[faint flare]

Dungeon bosses are pathetic

[little swift]

what are you saving it for? next expansion?

[remote lintel]

maybe i AM

[faint flare]

Tank invulns are your BEST cooldowns

[analog gate]

bosses deal much less damage compared to trash, especially if you wall pull

[faint flare]

They do the job of "make me not die" the literal best

[little swift]

what can be better mitigation than straight up not dying for like 8 seconds

[leaden ginkgo]

[remote lintel]

the only one i hesitate to use a bit is living dead because it can literally make me die

[hollow pebble]

Hey all. I've returned after a good 6-8. I have completed the msq as far as I can tell the mq thing now says "to be continued". But I'm so confused about what I should be doing now lol

[leaden ginkgo]

i'll keep it in mind

[remote lintel]

eden raids, nier raids, ruby weapon questline

[hollow pebble]

Like. What raids are the most recent etc

Ah ok. I'm on those now

[leaden ginkgo]

The True Endgame - Glamour Farming on alt jobs

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[remote lintel]

^

i play a lot on my alt now

[hollow pebble]

Ah ok. I've still to get through the weapons quest just yet

But wanted to check Eden was still the one to beat?

[hot eagle]

!faq contentunlock

[zinc orbit]

Content Location FAQ

A Realm Reborn Content
Heavensward Content
Stormblood Content
Shadowbringers Content

[remote lintel]

theres also the 3rd nier raid coming soon

[leaden ginkgo]

might as well go on the ffxiv wiki and see what stuff you dont have for each expansion

[remote lintel]

also bozja

[hollow pebble]

Yeah. It's a bit confusing even then

[leaden ginkgo]

Also you can pretty much solo alot of extremes for mounts

[hollow pebble]

So rather ask you lovely lot

[hollow pebble]

That sounds familiar. I think that's were I left the game til now

So just so I got it right, Eden still, Nier still, bozja and weapons quest love?

[remote lintel]

off the top of my head yeah

[hollow pebble]

Line*

Cool. That'll give me a good start ty ty

[remote lintel]

bozja requires you to have done the stormblood 24 mans

if you havent yet

[hollow pebble]

Your all legends Ty

[quaint birch]

can someone explain why the enemies turn into crystals?

or why they leave them behind when defeated.

i now have a blue and red one. but the purple one vanished which i think is the first crystal you see.

[remote lintel]

its part of the story

with you being a warrior of light and all

[quaint birch]

That's why i am asking i am probably going to miss bits but there are small snippets i would like to know.

[remote lintel]

because theyre crystals of light given to you by hydaelyn to make you a warrior of light basically

[quaint birch]

Hydaelyn is the mother crystal right?

[remote lintel]

yes

[glacial isle]

what counts as High-Level Duties for this set again?

[remote lintel]

EX+

[glacial isle]

Thx

[manic flare]

is that achievement needed for the tank mount?

[twilit arch]

yes

[faint flare]

That line yes

[twilit arch]

one of them atleast

[manic flare]

what do you mean one of them? just one tank class will do?

[faint flare]

There's Multiple

For each tanks

[twilit arch]

there's two tank mounts

for each tank

unarmoured and armored

[faint flare]

And the titles

[manic flare]

does soloing ex trials unsync'ed count?

[faint flare]

Yes

People spam garuda EX for the unarmoured mount

Unsyncd ofc

[leaden ginkgo]

How/where can I check the logos actions I have created already?

I can only see the 3 I created but where do i check the rest?

Like, how will I even remember/know what I did ingame? Besides pages online.

waz the mount called daz just two firey wheels?

[twilit arch]

nezha chariot, from the mogstation

[dense pivot]

Hey, I started playing today! What does FC stand for in terms of guilds? 😬

[twilit arch]

free company, its basically just the game's name for player ran guilds

[vague badge]

Hi guys. Free trial player here. Been focusing on finishing the ARR story. At the point now where I have to choose my Free Company. How long more do I have? There's soooo many fetch quests lol I can't wait to finish it

[twilit arch]

since in-game, they use the word 'guilds' for the npc groups/associations

[dire prawn]

You've got a lot more MSQ before you're done with ARR

A lot more MSQ

[cloud palm]

What they said

[vague badge]

oh god

[cloud palm]

But on the bright side you get a chocobo soon

[glacial isle]

you are but a fraction of the way done through the ARR Main Story

[cloud palm]

So thats cool

[glacial isle]

There's still: Post ARR, HW, and Post-HW to go until oyu run out of MSQs

[dense pivot]

Ohhh okay! Thank you!

Is there like a list or something where I can look up the meanings of all the abbreviations? 😆

[vague badge]

So what happens if I just the Complete Edition of the game? Can I skip early content and do the current stuff (Shadowbringers)?

[faint flare]

No

The story is linear

[glacial isle]

You are that far into ARR

[faint flare]

You just unlock the ability to get there

[dire prawn]

That just means you get to do all of the content

[vague badge]

Ahh I see

Oh well.

[dire prawn]

So that's where you are huh

azfaru

You have about 116 MSQs left if I'm not mistaken until you finish ARR completely

Have fun :3

[cloud palm]

My goodness

[vague badge]

Yeahhh it was a mistake to do sidequests and mess around at the start. Should have focused on MSQ straight away

[cloud palm]

And here I thought that post ShB was a lot and thats only like 40

[vague badge]

oh god. i'm not even a a quartter in

guyssss any words of encouragement 😦

haha

[dire prawn]

Actually

No

I lied

azfaru

[delicate field]

@vague badge it took me 50 hours to finish ARR by skipping all videos and dialogues

[cloud palm]

it gets way better so no worries there

[dire prawn]

You have 196 MSQs left

80 MSQs for post-ARR

[cloud palm]

Oh

[vague badge]

LOL

[cloud palm]

So you're not even like a 1/10!

[dire prawn]

You're 116 MSQs away from the end of 2.0

196 from the end of ARR

[delicate field]

I'm now 100 hours in and not halfway thru first DLC

[dire prawn]

There's your encouragement

[cloud palm]

I don't think that was very encouraging lol

[delicate field]

here's the list of all MSQ, so you canfollow alog to see where you're at https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Main_Scenario_Quests

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[idle coyote]

anyone know whats the paladin sword/shield with blue fire around it?

[leaden ginkgo]

I made 50, where do I go for the elemental armor?

[twilit arch]

sounds like aettir, which is the second to final step of the anima (lvl 60) relic @idle coyote

[idle coyote]

thank you ! ❤️

[cloud palm]

One of these days I'll get my DRK lightsabre

[idle coyote]

yup, that was it!!!

[knotty night]

Is the forge stuff worth doing? I just ignored it cause it seemed kinda boring

but I heard they give rewards?

[solar flare]

I have full wolf marks and dont know what to get, any suggestions?

[twilit arch]

whatever looks cool to you in the wolves' den. or go fo rthe hairstyles for a change of pace hairstyle wise

[knotty night]

oh whoops not forge

the smith!

that's what it was called

[solar flare]

Ok thanks

[twilit arch]

you should do the hall of novice exercises yes. they give decent gear and the final exercise gives a ring that increase xp gained til 30

[knotty night]

oooooooh

[obsidian patio]

Should be one of the NPCs by the building in the camp for Pyros

Note that you must have a complete pagos weapon at the minimum to make the armor

AKA the elemental weapons

[icy finch]

im lvl 55, should i be doing duty roulettes in addition to main quests?

[obsidian patio]

They’re a good source of daily experience/Gil/tomestones

[leaden ginkgo]

yeah, i am at pagos rn

forgot about that

....

lol

[obsidian patio]

Leveling, Alliance Raid, and Main Scenario roulettes are good for experience, with Alliance Raid and Main Scenario also being a good source of tomestones

Trials is decent for tomestones, but isn’t too spectacular.

50/60/70 is nice for poetics, but poor for experience

[cloud palm]

So what's the best way to level post 50?

[obsidian patio]

Story > Leveling/Alliance/MSQ roulettes > highest level dungeon > Palace of the dead/Heaven on High/Bozja for the most part

[dire prawn]

So Alliance Raid and 50/60/70 roulette is my best source of poetics?

[obsidian patio]

And Main Scenario Roulette

That gives 500 or 600 depending on if there’s a new person

[leaden ginkgo]

How much light does one need to wrap up the weapon quest?

In eureka

pagos

[dire prawn]

true

[obsidian patio]

I think it’s like 31 total bars unless they changed it?

[leaden ginkgo]

oh...

[obsidian patio]

But each fate basically gives a full bar or almost one

[leaden ginkgo]

meaning I can even solo?

or do I have to do party?

Been a year since I played.

[obsidian patio]

I think it’s tied to party credit so best to be in a party

[leaden ginkgo]

Hmm...

[obsidian patio]

Most people shout for a party whenever one spawns though

[leaden ginkgo]

so, regular mobs won't drop light, eh?

[obsidian patio]

They do but not as much and it’s a lot more grindy/complicated

[leaden ginkgo]

alright, thanks.

[obsidian patio]

Just remember to convert the light into the tokens before it reaches 9 bars, as you waste light gained past that

[dire prawn]

So Alliance Roulette, MSQ Roulette and 50/60/70/80 Roulette are my three best sources of poetics then right

[obsidian patio]

Yep

50/60/70*
80 doesn’t give poetics

[leaden ginkgo]

oh shoot thanks for reminding me this!

what tokens do I need, again?

[obsidian patio]

Frosted Protean Crystals come from light in Pagos

[dire prawn]

Oh

[obsidian patio]

And Pagos Crystals come from NMs in Pagos

[dire prawn]

What do Lv 80 dungeons give

[obsidian patio]

The level 80 tomestones Allegory and Revelation, learning more towards Allegory

[dire prawn]

Oh

How many poetics can I get from a run of each of those three roulettes

[leaden ginkgo]

So, I need both fpc and pc ?

[polar hound]

!faq poetics

[zinc orbit]

What should I spend my Poetics on? How do I get more?

Text guide on what to spend Tomestones of Poetics on

Video guide on how to get more Tomestones of Poetics

[obsidian patio]

Yes

[tame field]

Any one on light ho would help me with Mt. Gulg I Wanne lvl my dragon but I can't get a Queue (sad DD noises)

[leaden ginkgo]

@obsidian patio

is that right?

[manic flare]

can you do trusts?

[obsidian patio]

Yep

[manic flare]

isn't mt. gulg a shb dungeon?

[tame field]

@manic flare I never did trust so my NPC are all level 70

Yes it's the level 79 shb dungeon

[cloud palm]

i would help but im a famfrit boi

[dire prawn]

I'm also a famfrit boi

[knotty night]

I have 500k gil what can I do with it besides buy minions on the market board

[cloud palm]

mhm we know this. I'm waiting for my high five

[knotty night]

I was given a large sum by my friend but idk what gil is used for besides crafting mats at the crafter stores

Like the msq gives you a ton of gear

[dire prawn]

Where are you on Famfrit

[manic flare]

hmm, im in crystal. i guess perhaps you can do bozja to level up your dragoon?

[cloud palm]

Errrr, well I'm not right now. I wasn't actually expecting you to hop on. But I'll hop on real quick for that.

[dire prawn]

I'm at the start of the game still on Famfrit so you'd have to come to one of the starter cities

Why aren't you on

[cloud palm]

Wait you just started on Famfrit? Hot dayum

Well lemme add you as a friend and I'll help ya when In can

[dire prawn]

31 MRD/31 ROG/23 ARC

I'm two MSQs away from being able to do job quests

[earnest echo]

Ew, Famfrit

[cloud palm]

Gotcha. Well I'm willing to play any role so no worries there.

OI

[dire prawn]

Oi

[cloud palm]

What's wrong with Famfrit???

[earnest echo]

The people

[faint flare]

#general-discussion

[knotty night]

Idk where to ask this but does anyone know any good free companies in Faerie? I've accidentally accepted invites into erp fcs without realizing it until I read the fc chat

[earnest echo]

Ah crap, I'm in questions

Sorry

[knotty night]

And I'm just like how do I find a normal fc

[faint flare]

!faq communityfinder

[zinc orbit]

FFXIV Community Finder

Use the official Community Finder to find Free Companies, Linkshells, and PvP Teams!

Click here to visit the Community Finder

[knotty night]

Oh cool!

ty ^^

[leaden ginkgo]

Can I craft FPC from PC?

-Frosted Protean to Protean?

[faint flare]

No

[leaden ginkgo]

Or, do I really need to keep collecting lights?

ah man...

all these limitations...

I have 7 in my inventory, and 2 lights collected, so, I assume 9 overall.

Which means I will need 22 more to reach 31, right?

-where do I turn the light I accumulated?

[merry pine]

Hi, I recently moved to US from EU and wanna play the game with my EU friends. I keep having error i2501 when trying to activate account. Any way to bypass this? Shall I ask my friends to create my account and will I be able to play the game then? Thanks!

[leaden ginkgo]

yo, im new to the game and im picking a class and im having a hard time choosing

if i generally like supportive roles but also want relatively engaging solo leveling for my start off

between white mage, paladin, and bard

what makes the most sene

[cloud palm]

You'll prolly have the best time with PLD then

[dire prawn]

Nothing is engaging to start with

Because you have like

Two skills

But at the same time, every class can solo the entire story

[cloud palm]

Unless you really like rocks I'd go PLD

[dire prawn]

LOL

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[outer plank]

how to turn on auto lock target on ps4 controller while using mouse mode?

[leaden ginkgo]

yeah, i was thinking abt bard but i think thats cause im overestimating its supportive abilities, and cause bards are great in other games I play lol

[dire prawn]

I'm not sure I understand this question

[outer plank]

i keep hard locking things while using the left analog stick to move my camera around

[dire prawn]

Bard in this game start as Archer and doesn't get supportive abilities until later in the game

[outer plank]

im also using mouse mode and not gamepad mode

[cloud palm]

BRDs are really good in this game but I say PLD cause you get both of the things you want without the awful queue times of a DPS

[dire prawn]

So you're using a PS4 controller

[outer plank]

yes

[dire prawn]

But you have KB/M controls enabled

[leaden ginkgo]

yeah that too, but arent the supportive abilities only really aplicable later anyway? once I start doing group content like raids and stuff

[outer plank]

yup

[robust crow]

did you watch the larryzaur video that demonstrates each class

[cloud palm]

No, your support stuff will always be useful in any content. Plus BRDs support skills tie into his DPS rotations

[robust crow]

ff14 lets you do everything so why don't you just pick all 3 and try them out

[leaden ginkgo]

ah well true

[dire prawn]

Not at the start of the game when all his content level syncs him down

Don't pick all three if you're not on a preferred world

[glacial isle]

Does Blue have a Rez spell?

[faint flare]

Yes

[robust crow]

no, do pick all 3

[faint flare]

Angel whisper

[robust crow]

there's no problems with trying all 3 even on a non-preferred world

[dire prawn]

Not to start out with Renaulte

[faint flare]

!action Angel's Whisper

[zinc orbit]

**Angel's Whisper** : lvl 80 SCH (0.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Gradually restores the HP of all nearby party members.
Cure Potency: 120
Duration: 21s

※This action cannot be assigned to a hotbar.

Powered by XIVAPI

[robust crow]

why not?

[leaden ginkgo]

a what world

[cloud palm]

whats a prefered world?

[faint flare]

Wrong one kupo

[thorny sinew]

I just want to point out that the three jobs you've mentioned all do very different things. One's a tank, one's a dps, and one's a healer. So you will be expected to actually perform said role.

[dire prawn]

Cause how the hell would he level them starting out

[faint flare]

Double xp worlds

[robust crow]

the usual way? potd/hunting log/fate grind?

[glacial isle]

where do you get it?

[cloud palm]

Thats a thing??? Well hot dayum is Famfrit one of them?

[leaden ginkgo]

true! i undertsand what thses mean, i play a lot of other rpgs/mmos, all just seem interesting

[dire prawn]

If he's starting he won't have PotD

[faint flare]

Totem

[outer plank]

so does anyone know how to get rid of the hard lock feature when i press down on the left analog stick of my ps4 remote?

[glacial isle]

ah

[faint flare]

I believe its carnival or number of spells

[dire prawn]

Famfrit is yes

[faint flare]

!action Angel Whisper

[zinc orbit]

**Angel Whisper** : lvl 1 BLU (1000 MP) (300.0 second cooldown)(10.0 second base cast time)

Resurrects target to a weakened state.
This action does not share a recast timer with any other actions.

Blue Magic

The origin of this revitalizing spell is steeped in mystery, as it requires healing aether be amplified through a familiar that appears for all the world to be a messenger from the heavens─a concept soundly at odds with Whalaqee religious beliefs.

Obtained

Complete 30 stages at the Masked Carnivale.

Blue Magic

Type: Magic
Aspect: None
Rank: 4

Powered by XIVAPI | BLU Data Powered by FFXIV Collect

[thorny sinew]

The 500 million sidequests. PotD. Log. Fates. There is nothing stopping anyone from trying different classes once they unlock the ability to do so. Especially with the Armoury bonus

[faint flare]

There it is

[cloud palm]

oh fudge yeah Famfrit is da bomb

[dire prawn]

If you've been playing for four years you won't have the bonus though

[robust crow]

potd doesn't take long to unlock and it's not like you're lacking exp in the beginning lol

[faint flare]

30 carnivals

[pseudo quartz]

It's also really easy to power level past msq, so you can use your other jobs to do quests along the way, even when non-preferred

[leaden ginkgo]

okay

[thorny sinew]

Okay! I just wanted to make sure! I'd hate for you to level a Paladin out solo and then suddenly go "Wait, I have to tank?"

[pseudo quartz]

I just finished Heavensward with White and Red past 60, and Bard at 57 for reference.

[leaden ginkgo]

lol yeah, i appreciate the advice anyway

[robust crow]

anyway blooper seriously, there's no issue with just grabbing and trying all 3

the game actively encourages you to try all the classes

there's no reason not to

[leaden ginkgo]

okay, if that is something that isnt a terrible idea then I wont have a problem

[gloomy ice]

System Config > Gamepad Settings > Button Config. There's a limited pool of what you can assign but there is a setting to disable left stick press if you choose.

[dire prawn]

the game
This Discord actively encourages only leveling one class when it's your first ever character

[thorny sinew]

Paladin, especially at the high end, can pull off some pretty clinch support when tanking if they need it. But if you aren't against healing, WHM has some fun tools for doing so, just don't expect your dps rotation to be uh... enjoyable.

[robust crow]

yes, and no one is saying level all 3 at the same time bud

you can focus on one and still work on the other 2

literally no harm in grabbing all 3, leveling them to like 30, and picking which one feels best

[dire prawn]

Renaulte that's literally leveling all three

[thorny sinew]

And yeah, the game itself encourages you to level multiple jobs. Gone are the times when we actually had to level multiple classes and jobs in order to access the jobs themselves and cross class skills. But clearly the tools to do so are there.

[pseudo quartz]

Oh wait, are you on free trial?

[icy finch]

what do i do with antique helm and antique breeches

[robust crow]

are you really saying it's hard to get a class to level 30?

[leaden ginkgo]

nd im really leaning towards just two of then anyway, so leveling two wont be that hard

[faint flare]

Turn into a npc in mor dhona for the i90 job gear back

[pseudo quartz]

Because if so definitely pick up at least one more class, because you will cap before Heavensward is done, very easily

[thorny sinew]

Hell, go back far enough, and if you wanted to play a Paladin, you damn sure were leveling WHM up to get Raise and Stoneskin.

[leaden ginkgo]

mainly cause all of the stuff ive seen makes healing look SUPER boring in ff14 lol, even though I play healer in most of my other games

[robust crow]

ANYWAY bloooper back to the points I wanted to make

[thorny sinew]

Wanna play a warrior and need provoke? Go level your Gladiator.

[leaden ginkgo]

yeyeye go ahead

[robust crow]

someone touched on bard not really being a support

which is true

bard is a DPS

[leaden ginkgo]

yes! but has supportive aspects which i enjoy

[robust crow]

they just happen to have some party buffs attached to their DPS

[dire prawn]

You're going to love Astrologian when you get to Heavensward

[robust crow]

you shouldn't think of them as "having supportive elements that you enjoy"

[dire prawn]

Buffs healing and shielding galore

[cloud palm]

EXODIA

[robust crow]

they are literally just a DPS with like 2 extra buttons

[leaden ginkgo]

okay

[versed bridge]

Dancer is more support based

[robust crow]

that can support

[dire prawn]

Yeah DNC is the supportive DPS more than ARC is

[cloud palm]

DNC is great if you have a crippling gambling addiction

[dire prawn]

Or I should say BRD

[versed bridge]

But you can't start game with it unfortunately

[robust crow]

they have nature's minne (something you won't use often), a raid-wide damage reduction (which all the physical ranged have), and a raidwide steroid

[leaden ginkgo]

i do feel like i would enjoy them tho, cause some roles ive played in other games and stuff are basically entirely dps but have a tiny tiny tiny bit of support in them, and i do really like those characters

[robust crow]

that's about it as far as their support

[leaden ginkgo]

like taliyah in league if you play league

im a support main through and through but enjoy her for no reason

just cause of my utility

[robust crow]

you're looking at bard for the wrong reason though

[leaden ginkgo]

okay

[robust crow]

they're literally a DPS but with 3 buttons that you tap once to do a supportive skill

[leaden ginkgo]

youre probably right

yeah, dps isnt my thing so I shouldnt glorify it so much

[robust crow]

oh, warden's paean too

[outer plank]

@gloomy ice ty i've been fat fingering my analog stick so many times during e10s trying to move my camera around for orbs and then accidently hard locking

[thorny sinew]

Yeah, if DPS isn't your thing, stick to a tank or healer then. Because the "Support DPS" are "DPS that might have a button"

[leaden ginkgo]

from dnd and league I just associate barding with something that I really enjoy lol

[robust crow]

and i guarantee you no one's going to select bard for a raid team because "of their support"

[faint flare]

There isnt really support dps in the game

[robust crow]

right now 99% of bard players are playing bard because it's fun

[faint flare]

Just dps with raid buffs

[robust crow]

not because they "support"

[leaden ginkgo]

true

[manic flare]

dancer is kind of like a "support dps"

[thorny sinew]

Yeah. 100% not even kind of a D&D Bard.

[leaden ginkgo]

palidin seems like the best for me, at least to start then

[faint flare]

Dancer is a dps with alot of raid buffs

[dire prawn]

A "support" in the manner you're thinking of Blooper is most likely going to be Astrologian

But you can't get that job until you get to Heavensward

[leaden ginkgo]

and that comes in later expansions right

yeah

[thorny sinew]

Dancer is the closest you'll get because of Closed Position and our dance buffs. We get a tiny heal that can help in a pinch, but it's not really much.

[robust crow]

there's no true "support" in this game

[leaden ginkgo]

ill definitely keep an eye out for it whem I get there tho !

[dire prawn]

As for a supportive DPS yeah DNC is the closest to that

[leaden ginkgo]

okay

astrologian seems really cool tho, reading about it rn, will look out for it when I get there

[thorny sinew]

Well... I guess you could keep an eye on RDM for when you hit 50 too. Decent melee buff that they use during their own rotation and Vercure/Raise is quite handy to help fit your support needs

[robust crow]

although you actively avoid trying to vercure

[faint flare]

Which are last resorts only

[leaden ginkgo]

oaky okay

[faint flare]

Again. Support dps dont really exist

[thorny sinew]

Yeah, you don't want to be the healer. But it's there if shit hits the fan

[leaden ginkgo]

thank you all so much for all the help btw <3333333

[faint flare]

Just dps with raid buffs

[robust crow]

or DPS that has raise

i.e. rdm/smn

[faint flare]

Or a really weak heal

[versed bridge]

I wouldn't call smn or rdm support at all

[robust crow]

no one can raise like RDM though, not even healers

SMN really doesn't want to raise outside of swiftcast

[dire prawn]

WHM doesn't eitehr

[robust crow]

which is once per minute

[dire prawn]

either

[thorny sinew]

I wouldn't call anything support. But some stuff does have more "supportive" abilities than others.

[robust crow]

...? white mage is going to be forced to raise most of the time lol

[faint flare]

Despite being the best at it, rdm loses the most for raising

[robust crow]

unless you're progging in which case you have an argument for forcing the RDM to raise first

[dire prawn]

outside of Swiftcast

[robust crow]

i mean, who else is going to do it lol

[versed bridge]

Honestly if you raising too much you probably better off resetting

[robust crow]

if no one has swiftcast then it's one of the healers

[cloud palm]

Btw what should I be Swiftcasting as BLM?

[robust crow]

generally save it for movement chaka

[civic flare]

Is there an advantage to picking one grand company over the other? Or do I do all of them eventually?

[robust crow]

if you don't need movement you can just swiftcast whatever is your next spell

fire 4 or despair

[faint flare]

Movement or making another weaving spot

Or as a dps boost on fire 4/despair

[thorny sinew]

Limsa has a pirate hat at max rank. Is there any other reason?

[cloud palm]

heard

[dire prawn]

Literally none

At all

[faint flare]

They're functionally identical

[dire prawn]

In any way shape or form

[civic flare]

Thanks!

Is that when I get my mount?

[dire prawn]

The only difference between the three is their armor

Yes

[civic flare]

Perfect. Thank you!

[pseudo quartz]

Limsa extra warp to check in annoys me a tiny bit but it's very minor.

[thorny sinew]

Yeah, it's all cosmetic. They all have their own achievements too, but you can switch and do them if you need/want

[dire prawn]

When you pick your GC and the MSQ sends you to it the commander for the GC will have a called 'My Little Chocobo'

[cloud palm]

I wish you could name the Chocobo

[faint flare]

You can

[thorny sinew]

You can

[versed bridge]

You can

[cloud palm]

wait wut

[pseudo quartz]

You can?

[thorny sinew]

Of course

[dire prawn]

You need 200 GC seals to buy the Chocobro item

[faint flare]

At stable masters in cities

[pseudo quartz]

It's minions you can't.

[faint flare]

Like the one opposite uldah adventure guild

[cloud palm]

So like in Limsa Lominsa?

[faint flare]

Yes

[dire prawn]

Getting a Chocobro literally requires you to name it

How'd you not know you can name it

[cloud palm]

It has been 4 years

[pseudo quartz]

Now I'm curious to what your chocobo is called.

[cloud palm]

I only just recently remembered you can have them as combat buddies

[dire prawn]

Yeah what's your chocobo called

[cloud palm]

uh one sec

im in a cutscene

Where do I view its name?

[civic flare]

Sorry for all the questions... just started yesterday and trying to learn fast.

What is the letter next to the enemies for?

[faint flare]

Summon it or companion meni

[cloud palm]

oh...

Its name is Kumstane

[faint flare]

Old style FF targetting designation

[cloud palm]

hm

[obsidian patio]

It’s basically a placeholder to easily identify targets of the same type

[pseudo quartz]

Oh no

[thorny sinew]

A, B, C, etc? Just to help call out order etc

[dire prawn]

[civic flare]

Figured. But you can’t target by letter? Just tab target cycle through or click?

[cloud palm]

yeah dont ask cause i have no idea

[obsidian patio]

No target option based on letter

[cloud palm]

at least it isn't white

[thorny sinew]

Yep, tab through, click the mob, or click the healthbar on the aggro list

[cloud palm]

although

[merry pine]

Anyone please?

[tardy patio]

is Skybuilders Monument the last step of firmament then its over?

[raven sage]

yes

[tardy patio]

Is there anything special for taking part in it besides the 500 scrips and 2k gil, like a cutscene or something

It's going to happen pretty early so I'll probably miss it 😦

[raven sage]

Nope it's like all the others

It just opens up the next firmament questline

[tardy patio]

Got it, thanks

[raven sage]

And the aethernet

[dire prawn]

Are you trying to make an EU account?

[merry pine]

Yes, from US, to play with my EU friends

[dire prawn]

That is fifty shades of extra fucking stupid when you can just make a character on an EU datacenter

[obsidian patio]

You don’t need an EU account to do so

[dire prawn]

^

[obsidian patio]

Only Chinese and Korean accounts have region locking due to playing different versions of the game

[dire prawn]

And for some reason Australia counts as EU so they get screwed over too

[merry pine]

Ho, good to hear, thanks! I'll try that tomorrow

[delicate field]

what spell is this with the tooth on the ground

[modest igloo]

DRK AoE

[analog gate]

unleash, it's DRK's first AoE

[delicate field]

i always run away from it lol, looks like enemy aoe

[vernal urchin]

Those are friendly teeth

[dire prawn]

DRK AoE looks fucking epic

It's my favorite looking AoE of the ones I've seen

For tanks

[celest dagger]

Hello new to FFXIV, trying out FF because I use to play wow and that’s the only MMORPG I ever played. Any tips or suggestions are welcomed. I usually play a tank, and I also haven’t subbed yet. Just playing trial.

[sonic gulch]

whats the best map for haunting memories?

[leaden ginkgo]

just creating my character, what is the different between NA legacy and NA server?

like sargatanas is legacy but faerie isnt

[dire prawn]

Legacy Worlds are Worlds from FFXIV's original 1.0 release in 2010

Or Worlds that were merged when FFXIV came out

[leaden ginkgo]

so no real difference to me?

[dire prawn]

a.k.a the oldest Worlds on that datacenter

None at all

Literally zero

[leaden ginkgo]

okay

[dire prawn]

The only difference between any Worlds is the ones that are Preferred or New

[leaden ginkgo]

okay

cool

thanks :)

[dire prawn]

There's also zero differences between datacenters in the same region

They're physically on top of each other basically

[leaden ginkgo]

oaky

[delicate field]

choose a preferred world so you get double xp for 3 months when under level 70

[cloud palm]

come to famfrit! we got... some dancing people that go by the Jades

they're cool

plus i need friends 💔

[dire prawn]

I'm your friend

And yes Famfrit has the Jades

[cloud palm]

and i love and appreciate you very much ❤️

[dire prawn]

Which I didn't know about until I asked somebody about it

Because I saw them all when I was doing the little tour around Limsa

[cloud palm]

Are they like exclusive to Famfrit? I'd imagine every world has something like them in Limsa

[dire prawn]

No idea

[twilit arch]

nah

the jades are pretty unique to famfrit

[cloud palm]

neat!

but i don't get them. Are they just a bunch of bots? Like do they ever do anything but dance?

[twilit arch]

that said tho most servers do have their own unique characters that hang out in limsa

[zinc orbit]

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[twilit arch]

afaik, just someone who's multiboxing

[dire prawn]

I'm assuming that means they're doing their Jades thing on one instance of FFXIV but actually playing on another instance

[cloud palm]

makes sense but they had to get those jades to lvl 80 somehow

[twilit arch]

multiple accounts thru one control point

[dire prawn]

wut

[delicate field]

is the astrologist pretty fun to play?

[twilit arch]

personally find ast to be fun

They are running multiple accounts at once

most multiboxers, atleast in wow, used one control scheme to control all accounts

[cloud palm]

I was enjoying AST a bunch. Offensively simple but the idea of offering your DPS a rare holographic Cherizord and them getting a DMG buff is funny to me

The rarity of the card invigorates them

[twilit arch]

Ast is a busy healer and keeps me on my toes, so i enjoy it when i'm not feeling lazy

[glacial isle]

For Blue, what are the good damage spells you should go for?

cause rn I've got a bunch of spells and I've no clue if these are the one's I should be using

(in general content, not the Carnivale)

(both GCDs and oGCDs)

[twilit arch]

general suggestions i've seen are: sharpened knife, sonic boom, rbistle, song of tormet, moon flute, whistle, final sting, devour, off guard, glass dance, surpanakha, j kick, diamond back, aetherial mimicry, angel whisper, might guard, white wind, the look, missile

not sure if any of that's changed with the update

but those were pretty good for 60 set iirc

[fierce cobalt]

As a seller, is there any disadvantage of plopping your retainers to the lesser tax cities? Can players who havent reached say SB or Shb towns buy those items?

[twilit arch]

i believe there's a blu mage discord in #resources

[delicate field]

oh my god, am i gonna have to unlock aetherial currents on every map from DLC1 and onwards?

[twilit arch]

marketboard is universal so it doesn't matter where your retainer is, the buy can buy from your retainer even if they can only access limsa/gridania/ul'dah

yes @delicate field

[delicate field]

damn. guess im not flying anymore LOL

[twilit arch]

honestly, you should do currents while working on msq

most of them are going to be along the path you take anyway, and its easier to get it done while you're in that zone

[delicate field]

like just use the compass as i travel around?

[twilit arch]

ye, and pick up

[delicate field]

oh yeah i saw a few of those reward a current

[twilit arch]

or you can use http://heavenswhere.com/

if you really don't feel like hunting for them

[civic flare]

Is there a site that’s best known for raid builds/rotations for blackmage?

[crystal bluff]

The balance probably has it

[twilit arch]

https://www.akhmorning.com/

[civic flare]

Thanks!

[signal shore]

what jobs would you consider the most difficult and rewarding? i'm looking for a job that will be satisfying in the long run, I tend to gravitate towards melee classes but I'm open to all suggestions (difficult rotations are short term difficulty so I don't factor that in), or am I perhaps looking for a challenge in the wrong place since all the classes are inherently "easy" and I should look towards optimising the fights/encounters instead.

[earnest wraith]

job you like

I tried paladin,whm since they are on S tier in many guides

but they're boring af

[cloud palm]

oof

doin PLD dirty

[dire prawn]

Endgame, NIN has one of the hardest openers to go through

[rigid narwhal]

ignore the guide stuff

[dire prawn]

But starting out? They're all easy

Everything is easy until you start getting to 60/70/80

[signal shore]

but isn't that a non factor later on down the line since it will all be muscle memory

[dire prawn]

Muscle memory won't save you from how many skills NIN has

[rigid narwhal]

honestly I don't think any classes are particularly difficult

[dire prawn]

Not to mention the variations to openers

And reacting to boss mechanics

[rigid narwhal]

the rewarding part comes from how high level you want to go with it

and the main thing is keeping uptime

while doing it

which is mech dependent

all melee do similar dps at higher end

go look at fflogs, sort by CPM

they're the busiest jobs

I think nin might be the busiest

[dire prawn]

NIN during its opener and burst phase has a high APM requirement

[rigid narwhal]

if you've use warcfaftlogs it's identical

[dire prawn]

It's an extremely busy job at endgame

[cloud palm]

Maybe I should finally pick up NIN if not to put off finishing the MSQ for another day or so

[dire prawn]

I started with MRD and picked up ROG as soon as I finished the Lv 10 class quest

Only because Arcanist sucks ass

[cloud palm]

gottem

[signal shore]

so far I have monk, ninja and samurai at level 60 but maybe I should get them higher because 60 isn't an accurate representation

[dire prawn]

Catch me fucking dead before I level up ACN

[rigid narwhal]

it's not at all

[dire prawn]

In any form

[rigid narwhal]

The jobs do not function anything like they would at 80

[dire prawn]

80 is an accurate representation

70? Maybe

Anything under 70 isn't accurate at all

[rigid narwhal]

you have generally 50% of your kit, and it's not fleshed out on how you would use it

[civic flare]

What’s the most efficient way to get my 200 flame seals for my chocobo?

[dire prawn]

The MSQ

[magic light]

is there a way to tell if CLL is going up?

[dire prawn]

It literally gives you 300 seals for free

Go back to Waking Sands and talk to Minfilia and you get 300 GC seals just like that

[civic flare]

Ahh nice. Thanks. Glad I asked. Was about to run a round doing fates haha

[mild ermine]

I have a question about FC lead being passed. Is it possible to just log in through the app without a sub, in order to keep your FC lead? So it doesn’t pass due to inactiveness?

Or do I need a sub just to keep FC lead?

[signal shore]

if it isn't too much of a bother, could you point to me how I do that? I can't seem to find that option

[rigid narwhal]

ummmm give me 10 secs

[mild ermine]

If anyone knows please ping me ASAP, it’s pretty important. I wouldn’t mind a dm either. Thanks.

[signal shore]

np take your time, also thank you @rigid narwhal and @dire prawn for your insight

[rigid narwhal]

https://i.imgur.com/aGpuMVn.jpg

[little swift]

s tier from what guide? tier lists mean very little in this game

[rigid narwhal]

this is not a reference on the difficulty of the job

do not take it as gospel

Optimisation is hard for near all classes

[signal shore]

alright thank you

[remote lintel]

this isnt really true

a lot of dps openers are like that

even dark knight has almost the same amount of skills in its opener as nin

[signal shore]

doesn't ninja have a faster gcd with huton and has to press more buttons with mudras?

[remote lintel]

mudras dont make it much harder

[earnest wraith]

you can try search on youtube (i.e. Desperius FFXIV channel) or other site. When I started playing the game, I look at them first then try those classes.

[little swift]

mudras are on the GCD

[remote lintel]

desperius isnt recommended for guides

[little swift]

desperius is a terrible source of information for new players

[earnest wraith]

in the end, I only do those jobs for duty roulette

[remote lintel]

and tier lists are just opinions

[little swift]

tier lists aren't valid in this game

since class balancing is tight

[chrome iron]

bit of a weird question. which NPC uses this dialogue box?

[remote lintel]

that dialogue box is for underwater

[earnest wraith]

that's why I said to him that pick the job you like

that's the best

[chrome iron]

oooh.

[remote lintel]

or for like

voices in your head or something

[chrome iron]

i thought it was for Bismarck at first.

[little swift]

i'm just saying desperius is often misleading/gives bad information without fact-checking or correcting himself so take his info with a grain of salt

[signal shore]

I appreciate the contribution, but I like many jobs since I have about 8 at level 60

it's difficult to pick one over the other, but I've narrowed it down to melee job so far

[remote lintel]

also i can confirm ninja is a lot of muscle memory

which is like

all classes

its not even that busy

[chrome iron]

imo i think bard feels the worst to play atm. it's not satisfying since you're always overlapping your 3rd song and no matter how perfect you play you're gonna miss procs.

[cloud palm]

Yeah I was not enjoying him at all. Having played him to 60 he just felt eh. Maybe he gets better but there were too many times where I was just spamming my heavy shot cause there were no procs to be had

Bard that is

[signal shore]

i think it's for hraesvelgr, since I spoke to him today in the MSQ

but maybe multiple NPCs use it

[chrome iron]

apparently it's also used for bismarck.

it might just be a dragon chat box.

but thanks! i'll use that as reference.

[modest igloo]

so i traded away my ShB relic for the next step. is there any way to get the glowy relic for the same class?

[remote lintel]

multiple npcs use them

usually "gods"

[coral elk]

Earlier I was on here asking if one could purchase gear from the Mog station as a FT player.

I wanted to confirm you indeed can and it won’t change your FT status should that be a concern.

I am proof haha. Just wanted to put that out there since there isn’t a lot of information about it!

[remote lintel]

or other divine beings

[remote lintel]

its listed in the free trial limitations that you can buy some items from mog station

[coral elk]

It is but it doesn’t specify what items and a lot of people believe to the contrary from the discord I perused today, including this one; several people told me I can’t buy costume sets as a FT player, but I did. There’s also the fact that it will ask you to “upgrade to a standard account” when purchasing which may throw people off (but it’s just for credit card purposes).

That’s why I wanted to be forthright about my own experience, to help others.

[chrome iron]

yeah, i've realized. just making a photoshop project with all the dialogue boxes so i can use them for screenshots.

[earnest wraith]

prob need to wait for 1 day if you want to use that email

eh, duplicate registration?

[pale jungle]

Or did you already registered the game with that email ?

Ohh I see you might have to use a different one then ?

[earnest wraith]

you can try connect sqe support but it gonna take time b4 they reply u.

prob 1-4 weeks

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[chrome iron]

https://i.imgur.com/qhZGoCZ.png

any clue where i can find these last two being used?

i'm pretty sure the top one is used for bits like "this concludes the MSQ for 5.4, please look forward to..." when you've finished the last quest

but i'm not sure on the second one

[twilit arch]

pretty sure the bottom one is generic system message

[chrome iron]

aaah.

[remote lintel]

@chrome iron the top one looks like the old 1.0 dialogue boxes

[chrome iron]

hmmmm. let me doublecheck that..

[chrome iron]

oh wow. okay.

apparently the bottom one is the one i was talking about, yeah.

https://i.imgur.com/lKVss6j.png

[twilit arch]

ye the generic system message

[leaden ginkgo]

so i just got into FFXIV and want to be a summoner, any helpful tips or resources i should know of? (I'm Level 20 atm and have only been playing for 3 days or so)

[wintry chasm]

Late but I'm a solid 90% sure IIRC that the dialogue box design there is simply when a being is speaking in another language and it's getting translated

So for instance dragonspeak or if you are caught up fully in MSQ something like...||Ancient speak||

[delicate field]

You picked the best class, have fun :)

[dire prawn]

This is factually wrong

[delicate field]

Lay out the numbers

[remote lintel]

||ancients speak in a black text box with red text||

[wintry chasm]

No specific advice regarding summoner, just general game tips.
A) before your first dungeon you can do hall of the novice, gives nice gear and an xp boosting ring
B) keep up to date with your class and job quests because for some reason so many people ignore that nowadays
C) remember to do those (can ignore obvious leve and other class unlock quests if you want) since are very helpful like, for instance, "Rising to the Challenge"

[chrome iron]

i actually don't think this is it.

i think the top one is something else.

[remote lintel]

i dunno it then

[chrome iron]

and yeah! the people here helped me figure it out. it's translated speech or linkshell speech.

[wintry chasm]

Different yeah but similar

[chrome iron]

there's a different dialogue box when primals/deities are speaking normally, not translated

made a template for it, sec

https://i.imgur.com/DsGdK1U.png

[remote lintel]

make the dating sim we all need

[chrome iron]

lmao

naw it's just for adding dialogue to my screenies.

[hoary fossil]

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[dire prawn]

Unlock them

[hoary fossil]

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[shut panther]

Shouting in instance and checking the timer of the first person in the interest can give you a guess, but there's no guarantee

[wintry chasm]

Optional dungeons are whatever but you absolutely should do trial series and raids before continuing MSQ honestly I highly recommend it

[hoary fossil]

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[delicate field]

Would you guys say that gunbreaker is a pretty good tank job?

[wintry chasm]

All tanks are fine

[dire prawn]

Some of them are required

[wintry chasm]

Well three reasons
A) unlock normal and alliance raid roulette
B) because they are really good stories
C) because they can indirectly get referenced in MSQ

[dire prawn]

For example, Crystal Tower is required at two different points in the MSQ

[wintry chasm]

only one and frankly I don't count that anymore as "optional raid"

[hoary fossil]

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[dire prawn]

true but shh

[delicate field]

Crystal tower is pretty fun

[remote lintel]

not after the 50th time

[delicate field]

Lol

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[full latch]

https://i.gyazo.com/4ede5b019e6b5eb02ed873bb083f0470.png why is his xp maxed?

[gloomy mortar]

Eat a Tharavanian Onion

[full latch]

I thought max rank was 10

[gloomy mortar]

Buy a Thav Onion, right click it ‘use’ then your Chocobo will go to next level

[gloomy ice]

If the exp is maxed like that while below rank 10, it just means someone fed your bird while it was stabled.

To rank up, just summon your bird and kill one mob, any mob, close to your current level.

You only need onions if it's at rank 10 or higher.

[full latch]

Thank you eton

not you needa

[gloomy mortar]

You’re welcome

[full latch]

♥

[gloomy mortar]

Glad to help

[full latch]

tbh you almost made me waste my time and an onion

[gloomy mortar]

No problem, always glad to help

[grizzled warren]

is there a difference if i do 1 role quest vs all role quests story-wise?

[silver ruin]

no

it just gives you more insight to the other characters of the role quests

but doesnt affect the overall msq as far as iknow

[grizzled warren]

i can do them after i finish the story too right?

[silver ruin]

yes

[grizzled warren]

ok thanks!

[remote lintel]

you get an extra role quest and a special dialogue option/cutscene difference in later msq

[cloud palm]

Is it the Sycarus Tower I need to complete to progress through MSQ?

[remote lintel]

you need to do the questline

up to "a light of hope"

[silver ruin]

depends, how are you leveling it?

ishgard restoration?

[dire prawn]

Labyrinth of the Ancients, Syrcus* Tower and World of Darkness are all required to finish ARR

[silver ruin]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vgtU7HFtG87TrJ9U47vnzkFMhSl5HKz7bjJhRXbxaas/edit#

[grizzled warren]

so i would have to do them all before the the story ends to get the special dialogue/cutscene?

[dire prawn]

The last quest in the CT questline is "The Light of Hope"

Or 'A Light of Hope'

[silver ruin]

id assume so

[dire prawn]

One of the two

[cloud palm]

They call it the Crystal Tower quest line. I'm at the Sycarus tower bit. Which step is that one?

[remote lintel]

@grizzled warren i mean you can see the dialogue/cutscene thing in the inn

[dire prawn]

Syrcus* and it's #2

The last part of CT is World of Darkness

Then you have one more quest called Light of Hope that finishes the CT questline and unlocks the MSQ from Minfilia

[cloud palm]

Whelp. Now I have no choice but to do something else. I'm not about to go raiding at 2am

[silver ruin]

i mean

[dire prawn]

Set aside about an hour and a half of free time once you do it

[silver ruin]

its probably gonna take you maybe 25-30 minutes

its not that bad

[delicate field]

it only lasts abou 20-30 min

[dire prawn]

Because your last two quests in ARR have a lot of cutscene

[grizzled warren]

damn... ok thanks

[cloud palm]

I'm not on ARR tho

[twilit patrol]

i get access to Idyllshire only in heavensward?

[cloud palm]

ye

[gloomy ice]

Correct. A level 58 main story quest to be precise.

[remote lintel]

i mean you unlock it in heavensward

not like it locks you out if you finish HW

[twilit patrol]

i am still on ARR

patch 2.1 msq

can i run there?

[wintry chasm]

Run to Idyllshire? No

You're not even in HW

[twilit patrol]

by the time i finish ARR msq i will hit 80 probably...

[dire prawn]

You need Heavensward to go anywhere else

[wintry chasm]

and even then Idyllshire is locked behind a lot of HW MSQ

[remote lintel]

then change class

[wintry chasm]

If you want to spend poetics or something spend it on more gear for alt jobs

[twilit patrol]

how much poetics relic weapons cost in arr?

13k?

[warm snow]

Lol no

Patch msq content gives very low exp so it's hard to hit the 60 before hw

[wintry chasm]

they probably mean through roulettes and stuff

[thorny sinew]

I dunno... if you're managing to level all the way to 80 just on your daily roulette bonuses before finishing ARR... I'd have to imagine all you're doing is your daily roulette bonuses and nothing else.

[dire prawn]

Or they're leveling one job on a world with Road to 70

[thorny sinew]

My statement stands.

[delicate field]

@twilit patrol you unlock idleshire towards the end of HW

it's a LONG ways away

[thorny sinew]

Quest rewards from ARR content is nothing but a drop in the bucket at higher levels, even with the buff. And the exp needed to go from 70-80 is quite large, so you'd need several days of just doing roulettes for the bonuses. So if they are doing the ARR storyline content at all I'd be vastly surprised if they hit 80 before finishing it.

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[pale jungle]

I’m at post arr patch 2.5, hit lvl 71, you need a lot more days to do rolos in order to hit 80

[placid bane]

@warm snowoops, i mean have not strarted HW

[pale jungle]

If you go slowly on the story

[gloomy mortar]

If you do all the roulettes, you can go 70 to 80 in 5 days

[pale jungle]

Nice

[placid bane]

you can use your other class for exp as well if you'd like

[pale jungle]

True

Aight gn guys

[placid bane]

farewell fellow adventurer!

[twilit patrol]

ok time to ignore roulettes 😄

[thick knot]

Hi guys! I'm new in the game and I'm currently playing the free trial version, do you know if I can hide the HUD in this version??

[placid bane]

dont strife kun!

[obsidian patio]

Scroll lock is the default keybind for KBM

If you’re using controller I think it’s L1+touch pad

[thick knot]

Yes, I use controller

Thank you so much 😊

[leaden ginkgo]

Hello I just started the game and I need to know how to level up fast

[dire prawn]

By playing the game

Literally the quickest way to level up when you've just started is by playing

MSQ = levels

[leaden ginkgo]

Oh ok

[dire prawn]

You'll grossly outlevel it by at least eight levels until you hit around Lv 40 MSQ

If you're not on Famfrit

If you're on Famfrit the MSQ is never going to catch you in levels

[silver ruin]

also everything is locked behind msq

so level doesnt mean much if you dont have msq up to date

[dire prawn]

Yep

Everything is locked behind MSQ

[agile laurel]

i'll honestly say, overleveling your first job achieves literally nothing in this game

like, quite literally nothing i can think of

[dire prawn]

Because everything level syncs you down anyways

[warped nest]

You can explore the map slightly faster and slightly safer

But it is hardly worth it

[dire prawn]

How much faster is a ROG/NIN than other classes/jobs

[little swift]

Faster in what sense

Gcd? Not very

[cloud palm]

wut

[little swift]

It builds none in its melds compared to monk or samurai

Apm wise? Its up there with machinist

But its not as horrifying as you think

[little swift]

Are you confused about something?

[cloud palm]

No. But lemme ask, how much time can you shave off the GCD with some Skill Speed materia or what have you

[little swift]

Depends on the level range you're in and what materia you use

Substats work in tiers

Where you need x amount to reduce the gcd by 0.01s

At 80 thats roughly 100 points of skill speed /0.01s

With a jobs innate haste buffs

You can currently reach somewhere under 2.00 on monk

[cloud palm]

Oh wow, so you don't really shave off THAT much more of the GCD

[little swift]

Easily

The hard cap is 1.5s gcd anyways

[cloud palm]

gotcha

[little swift]

More skill speed isn't always better too

Job rotations might line up better by having a certain amount

Rather than going all in on it

Investing in things like crit (which increase both the chance of a crit and the multiplier on crit damage) is wiser

That said substats are largely an irrelevant thing outside of endgame

[remote lintel]

most of the balance sks/sps melds are to line up CDs and buff windows anyway

[little swift]

And even then if you don't raid it doesn't really matter

[cloud palm]

pfft i don't even think in all my years of playing i've once slotted in materia

[thorny sinew]

cries in overmelds