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little swift
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its not

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yes, but get your skill speed/gcd to tier

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no you aren't

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if you read the blurb after you finished your lv50 job quest

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it would tell you

rugged flicker
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Well lemme tell you what they are once my friend finishes crafting my level 70 set 😛

rigid wolf
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Lol

obsidian patio
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What’s the name of the last BLM job quest you did?

little swift
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that you are able to accept a new set of job quests once oyu reach the next expansion

rigid wolf
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Ok thanks

little swift
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and those unlock the next abilities

rigid wolf
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Just said 52

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So thought unlocked

tropic bramble
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Hey, a buddy of mine has been searching everywhere (gathering log, ffxiv official sites, and even the wiki page) for Elm Branches, and can not for the life of them find it. It came up for a GC turn in, and it isn't too terribly important, but I am now convinced that there is some hidden story behind it.

little swift
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it says job quest

rigid wolf
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Great great

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Ill keep going

little swift
tropic bramble
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yeah, it is definitely an elm branch. And it definitely at one point in time existed within the game

obsidian patio
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Elm Branch specifically is a leftover item from 1.0

tropic bramble
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so it is currently unobtainable?

obsidian patio
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Yep.

little swift
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yep

tropic bramble
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alright ty much

little swift
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just submit a report for a bug

tropic bramble
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i'll get them to do that, thanks!

little swift
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i expect they didn't expect it to still turn up since people level past that range

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relatively quick

rigid wolf
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@little swift last time you checked?

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Sorry confused. How do you check on others progress?

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rigid wolf
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Whats the proper use for transpose?

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Was told early not to worry about it and never really learned

gritty cedar
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it for maintaining a stack of astral fire or umbral ice when u swap elements

little swift
rigid wolf
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So you have a stack of 3 fire you use transpose and cast ice when u cast fire you keep the stacks?

gritty cedar
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no

little swift
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you were supposed to use transpose while swapping between umbral ice to astral fire and vice versa

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it makes it so you don't lose all your stacks when you swap

gritty cedar
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u will have 1 but that’s better than 0

little swift
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!faq blmlvling

zinc orbitBOT
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Error!

No tag named blmlvling exists, Kupo!

little swift
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!faq blmleveling

zinc orbitBOT
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THM/BLM leveling rotations
gritty cedar
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later u will have skills that maintain all 3 stacks

little swift
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do you see this rotation sheet? it explains to you how you were supposed to use it early on

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basically when you're out of mana from spamming fire

rigid wolf
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Ok so cast fire. Run out of mana. Cast transpose. Cast ice. Get mana trans again. Have one stack of fire?

little swift
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yes

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but now you have fire 3 and blizzard 3

rigid wolf
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Right

whole wasp
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those spells automatically switch you to fire and ice phase with 3 stacks without having to cast transpose

dire prawn
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What the hell is T1

little swift
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thunder 1

whole wasp
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Thunder 1

dire prawn
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Oh

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So F1 is Fire I then

little swift
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yes

whole wasp
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yup

dire prawn
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And B1 I assume is Blizzard?

devout cargo
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yes

rigid wolf
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DoT?

little swift
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damage over time

rigid wolf
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Ok thats helpful

whole wasp
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Damage over Time which is basically Thunder

rigid wolf
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Got ya

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Right

little swift
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means while it is up you will slowly burn down the target with it

rigid wolf
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Yea

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Where does trans come into that

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At end

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?

slate arrow
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ideally, never

whole wasp
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eventually you get spells that help never need to cast transpose again

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!action fire 3

zinc orbitBOT
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**Fire II** : lvl 18 THM BLM (1500 MP) (2.5 second cooldown)(3.0 second base cast time)

Deals fire damage with a potency of 80 to target and all enemies nearby it.
Additional Effect: Grants Astral Fire or removes Umbral Ice
Duration: 15s

rigid wolf
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Kk

slate arrow
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!action fire iii

zinc orbitBOT
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**Fire III** : lvl 34 THM BLM (2000 MP) (2.5 second cooldown)(3.5 second base cast time)

Deals fire damage with a potency of 240.
Additional Effect: Grants Astral Fire III and removes Umbral Ice
Duration: 15s

whole wasp
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bruh, thats fire 2

rigid wolf
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Why is B3 cast first?

slate arrow
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raw casting fire 3 will eat your MP

whole wasp
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you need to be in ice phase to get umbral hearts as well

dire prawn
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2000 MP monkaS

slate arrow
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Blizzard 3 can be used to set up thunder, and then go into fire phase for free

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Fire 3 in Umbral Ice 3 is down to like 800 mp

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down to 0 MP at level 72

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!trait aspect mastery

zinc orbitBOT
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**Aspect Mastery** : lvl 72 BLM

Accumulating full stacks of either Astral Fire or Umbral Ice then casting a spell of the opposite element will consume no MP.
Effect does not apply to Flare.

dire prawn
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That

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Is disgusting

slate arrow
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it's not as disgusting as it seems

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you have a lot more things to juggle as you level

leaden ginkgo
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how do i turn faded music into real music

slate arrow
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Alchemist crafting

leaden ginkgo
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alchemist is in uldah?

whole wasp
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yes

dire prawn
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My first hotbar on PS4 can no longer hold my spells ;-;

leaden ginkgo
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cool thank you

dire prawn
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I have a second hotbar now with just Rescue

sudden wolf
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Guys how would I transfer character ui to another pc?

rigid wolf
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Double tap for extra bars is great on pad

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If u use it

slate arrow
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PC the computer or PC the player character

sudden wolf
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Computer

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I have a new pc and installed FFXIV but don’t have my ui

slate arrow
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Log in > right click > upload character settings

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then you can download them on your new PC

dire prawn
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I don't have an external keyboard so yeah I use controller

slate arrow
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use WXHB

dire prawn
slate arrow
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@obsidian patio DS4 controller help ty

obsidian patio
dire prawn
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I don't have any of that

obsidian patio
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You enable it in Character config > Hotbar settings > Cross and Custom

dire prawn
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Why does that look like a mix of controller and kb/m

obsidian patio
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That’s me placing normal PC hotbars near my crossbar to track cooldowns

slate arrow
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you can enable normal hotbars via UI settings, most controller players use them to track cooldowns

rugged flicker
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@little swift Okay, my skill speed is 1200 and I'm at level 70. Do I need to add any more onto it with materia or am I fine with crit and direct hit materia?

dire prawn
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What is WXHB

full latch
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hey just wondering. about the "recruit a friend" is this code usable when someone first time subs for the game or it's when they first play the game?

slate arrow
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W Cross Hot Bar

dire prawn
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I see that I can add expanded controls by holding both L2 and R2 in Custom

slate arrow
full latch
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who has one cause i'm about to buy my first sub

dire prawn
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And also an 'Enable WXHB with simultaneous L2 and R2 double tap

obsidian patio
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W = Double
So it’s basically “double crossbar”

rugged flicker
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Or if anyone else knows, that would be helpful :x

sudden wolf
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Oh wow the launcher has ui backup

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Kewl

slate arrow
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because I'd say just don't worry about materia until you get to 80

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:V

rugged flicker
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Honestly, I'm just doing this so I can get Shadow Walk with Me, so as long as I can get to 80 without people nagging me about my stats, I really don't give a shit.

slate arrow
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who even nags about stats before 80

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before 80 you should be going for main stats first and foremost

rugged flicker
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Well look I have like a shitload of tier six materia lying around so I'mma use it. <_<

slate arrow
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could just junk em at the materia goblin for more profitable crafter and gathering materia

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that is if you don't mind playing on the pachinko machine materia transmuter

rugged flicker
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Or I could get mileage out of them then scrap them?

slate arrow
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as a person who leveled up every job to 80

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it doesn't really matter

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as long as you have scaevan gear or HQ crafted gear above i400 you'll be good until 80

dire prawn
rugged flicker
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Well whatever, since I can't seem to get a straight answer like I've gotten when asking this question in the past, guess I'll just meld Crit and Direct Hit materia. <.<

dire prawn
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You are getting a straight answer

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And that answer is it doesn't matter until you hit 80

slate arrow
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The answer is, Main Stats > Substats

rugged flicker
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Well as far as I know, main stats are typically already maxed out and can't be augmented with materia, at least not the ones that matter for your particular job.

slate arrow
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exactly

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so you don't need to meld

rugged flicker
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Well I have it so I'm gonna do it <_<

slate arrow
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

rugged flicker
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Guess I'm gonna have to suffer having slightly higher crit GASP

slate arrow
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Besides that extra melds will go to waste as you level since stat weights keep changing

dire prawn
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Yilmaz

obsidian patio
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Always display WXHB
Self-explanatory
Return to XHB after WXHB input
This means when you use an action that’s on the WXHB you’ll immediately unselect the WXHB and back to your main crossbar for those actions
Position WXHB separately from XHB
This lets you place it in a different part of the screen rather than being attached to the main crossbar.
WXHB input timer
This basically decides the window of time you have to double tap the triggers to activate WXHB. The lower you set it the faster you need to tap. A somewhat low number is good for avoiding accidental activation.

dire prawn
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Are you typing an essay

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Oh

slate arrow
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yes, yes he was

obsidian patio
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Derp, I was relying on the image being on top

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Oh well

dire prawn
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So what I did figure out

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Was that with my PS4 I can have additional hotbars by double-tapping each individual trigger and also by holding both triggers

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What I can't figure out is how to actually assign skills to these additional hotbars

obsidian patio
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Place them on the bar they’re copying from

slate arrow
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they're assigned to crossbar hotbar 7 and 8 respectively by default

dire prawn
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Cause using the pad button only lets me modify my original eight hot bars that I can cycle through with R1

obsidian patio
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WXHB and Hold act as “mirrors” that look at the bar they’re assigned to

slate arrow
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You'll have to manually swap to those in order to assign buttons

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not shortcut swap

obsidian patio
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So if your WXHB uses set 4 of both halves, you go to set four and place the actions there

dire prawn
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Okay

slate arrow
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What WXHB or Hold XHB is doing is basically doing the bumper swap for you without needing you to actually perform bumper swap

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So instead of R1 > O it's just R2 > R2 as an example

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Or R2 + L2 or L2 + R2

dire prawn
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So if Rescue is the only skill on my 2nd hotbar with X Square Triangle and Circle how would I set that on the WXHB so it's there instead of me needing to hit R1

slate arrow
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so you'd need to either rebind WXHB to set 2

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or go to the set WXHB is currently assigned to and place your skills there

dire prawn
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Oh

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Alright I figured that part out

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So what's confusing me now is that there's an option to also use the d-pad as the cast button after double tapping L2 or R2 but I don't see an option to actually assign the d-pad hotbar to any of my sets

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Oh

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Never mind figured it out

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It's one or the other

obsidian patio
dire prawn
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Yeah that was the one

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Now then the setting above that

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How does that one work

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Do I have to press one trigger and then the other?

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No I see how that works

obsidian patio
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“Enable only 4 buttons” means it only shows the actions attached to the face button side of the crossbar half

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So X/triangle/Square/Circle

dire prawn
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Yeah

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I figured that one out

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I lied I don't know how the L2 + R2 setting above that one works

obsidian patio
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You hold one of the two and then also hold the other.

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So you can have L2+R2 go to one set, while R2+L2 go to another set.

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Personally I just have both go to the same set to avoid confusion

dire prawn
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That's what I'm doing so when I hold both down it pulls up the X Square Triangle Circle set and then also the d-pad set

slate arrow
dire prawn
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So is there a way to get that one to display as well as the other two

slate arrow
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no

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only XHB and WXHB have unique UI elements

dire prawn
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So the Expanded Hold Controls hotbars I can't display along with the WXHB and XHB

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The one that appears when I hold both triggers, that is

slate arrow
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yes

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Hold bar replaces your Active XHB when you perform the hold imput

dire prawn
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Ohh

slate arrow
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and then swaps back when you release

dire prawn
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Do I even need that one as a WHM that can only go to 60 🤔

slate arrow
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you might

dire prawn
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I think I only unlock like three more skills from 48 to 60

slate arrow
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I'm not sure how many buttons WHM uses but you do need most or all of them, unless you wanna curebot

dire prawn
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idk

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Let me check real quick

final steeple
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i would like more mounts what are some mounts that are easy to get?

obsidian patio
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Easiest early source is from Jonathas in Old Gridania with achievement certificates

final steeple
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i got those already

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i also got the primal horses

dire prawn
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I lied

obsidian patio
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They’re not fast to get, but each of the beast tribes have a mount to buy.

dire prawn
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I get six additional skills from 50 to 60

obsidian patio
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Gold Saucer also has a small horde of mounts

dire prawn
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So the answer is I don't need the Hold hotbar

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I can just use double triggers for now

dire prawn
obsidian patio
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Yes

dire prawn
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The answer is yes

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That's gay

frozen girder
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I don't understand how this is used

dire prawn
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Also why is it only applying to the skills I have on X Square Triangle and Circle when I hold R2 for the 2nd set

obsidian patio
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It’s basically a reward for optimally using Third Eye.

dire prawn
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Is it because of the Use only four buttons setting

obsidian patio
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In terms of potency per Kenki it’s slightly more efficient than Shinten

slate arrow
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only barely though, so it's not worth going out of your way for

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dire prawn
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If I enable directional buttons will it disable the 4 buttons

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Or enable both 4 buttons and d-pad

obsidian patio
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No it shows the entire crossbar half

dire prawn
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POG

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My hotbars are now functional uwu

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So this is how FFXIV works so well on controller despite having tons of skills

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@obsidian patio wait so how'd you display that PC hotbar below the controller hotbars?

obsidian patio
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Hotbar settings > Display > tick a hotbar box.

dire prawn
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🤔

full latch
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I bought shadowbringers but i'm still locked at 60

obsidian patio
obsidian patio
dire prawn
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What use would that be for a controller setup

obsidian patio
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Tracking cooldowns easily

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Also good for stuff that activates with procs, like Bloodletter for Bard.

full latch
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it tells me code is invalid

obsidian patio
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Are you on the trial or did you register the base game?

full latch
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I bought 90 days

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and yeah

obsidian patio
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Can you take a screenshot of this part of your mogstation? It’s in the My Account section.

dire prawn
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Could I even use the skills on that hotbar?

obsidian patio
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Not really

dire prawn
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🤔

obsidian patio
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It’s basically just for looking at.

dire prawn
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eww

obsidian patio
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Unless you want to use the touch pad to click those buttons

dire prawn
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I don't think I have a use for that on free trial

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GROSS

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🤮

obsidian patio
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Where did you buy shadowbringers from?

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And take a screenshot of the things above the licenses

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That’s important too

full latch
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steam. the code is showing on my steam overlay

obsidian patio
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Did you also buy the base game on steam?

full latch
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yeah

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the game knows I did too because I got 30 days free

obsidian patio
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Hmm, and which box are you clicking on to redeem the code?

obsidian patio
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And this is from clicking “Enter Expansion Registration Code”?

full latch
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yep

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the big pink button

obsidian patio
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Not quite sure then. :/ the code might be case sensitive? From what I can tell there’s no obvious mistakes happening

full latch
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i've tried both of those options

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literaly did the same thing and it worked now

obsidian patio
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\o/

full latch
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Is there a delay?

obsidian patio
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Might’ve been a ghost space bar press somewhere

marble drift
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heavyisDEAD

obsidian patio
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That can happen if you directly copy the code

full latch
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I know for a fact that I didn't touch any other key

full latch
marble drift
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I've always thought steam to a be a little screwy

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with XIV

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the friend that got me into this game had heard the same and warned me off it

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and while I use steam heavily Im glad i have the standalone launcher for XIV

remote lintel
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xiv's entire account/registration system just be like that

full latch
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Wait I actually have to download the expansion? LMAO

remote lintel
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yes

full latch
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I knew it was too good to be true that the whole game is 70gb

obsidian patio
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Closer to like 50-60

full latch
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wellp off to hang myself. Watch and learn!

remote lintel
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i mean you bought new content so obviously you need to download it

full latch
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I thought I downloaded the whole thing in one so when you buy the expansion you instantly can load in

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it's like that in destiny since f2p players can explore the new locations

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honestly with this games sub fee I feel like the base game should be f2p

remote lintel
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most sub games require you to buy the base game

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and you can still play the entire base game for free

marble drift
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I hear that so often. Are people not aware that we've had subscription based MMO's for like...over a decade now?

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its the norm.

robust crow
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a decade?

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try two, almost three

marble drift
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I did say over.

full latch
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it's the norm but I feel like making people pay an extra cost over the base game is kinda dumb. at this point make the game f2p and have them pay the monthly fee

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thats kind of why I was very hesitant from touching mmo games. I only got into ff14 because I was bored of destiny and gained interest of another mmo game but it's not out yet

obsidian patio
full latch
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So wait. how big is this game for file size?

worthy basin
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46gb iirc

obsidian patio
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For PS4 it’s 47gb

remote lintel
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52.6gb

leaden ginkgo
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do you get the tomestone reward if you use the Trust to finish the dungeon?

full latch
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the entire game?

remote lintel
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yes

full latch
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weird why I saw 70 on steam or I might be going insane

remote lintel
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steam says 60gb

worthy basin
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can you get the 150 tomestones if you unsync ARF?

obsidian patio
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That’s probably Steam future proofing for future patches and expansions

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No

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You only get tomes from unsync if it’s your first run of the dungeon

full latch
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what is lodestone? I'm confused on that name

worthy basin
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ahhh that sucks

remote lintel
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lodestone is the ff14 website

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/database

marble drift
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also functions as character lookup

dire prawn
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How hard is the ||Escape from Castrum Centri|| MSQ?

marble drift
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if its MSQ its not that hard

remote lintel
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its not

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ARR isnt hard

little swift
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its not hard

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but there's a part where you need to pay attention to npc dialogue

dire prawn
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You mean where I'm at right now?

little swift
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yes

dire prawn
little swift
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if you're having trouble later and for whatever reason fail the solo instance

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use !faq soloinstance in #kupo-bot-spam

dire prawn
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I'm at the part where I just found out who Thancred is

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How close am I to the end of ARR and the start of whatever hell awaits me between ARR and Heavensward

vernal urchin
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pretty close

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remote lintel
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thancred is thancred

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he didnt change his identity

dire prawn
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shh

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Don't tell me >.>

remote lintel
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i mean they tell you like 5 seconds after

frank wigeon
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hey what does guest access mean in fc chamber? does that mean people outside fc can enter?

obsidian patio
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Yes.

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Though I think for the personal rooms specifically it means people besides them

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So if they have it to private only they can enter

coarse tapir
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Hey is there a faster way to level up a level 1 DPS class to level 60 outside of POTD spam

obsidian patio
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Do sidequests and fates until level 15 to unlock dungeons, then spam those.

swift pasture
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is there a way to lag check ingame?

obsidian patio
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POTD is actually your fastest queue option as a DPS for the most part if you stick to the main floor sets, those being 1-10 and 51-60

obsidian patio
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!faq datacenterip

zinc orbitBOT
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Datacenter IP Addresses

List of IP Addresses for each Datacenter

North America
Aether: 204.2.229.9
Primal: 204.2.229.10
Crystal: 204.2.229.11

Europe
Chaos: 195.82.50.9
Light: 195.82.50.10

Japan
Mana: 124.150.157.156
Gaia: 124.150.157.157
Elemental: 124.150.157.158

how do I ping the IP?

Windows: Open Command Prompt and type ping *insert IP Address here*
Mac: Open Terminal and type ping *insert IP Address here*

swift pasture
coarse tapir
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So just run potd 1-10 and 51-60 or stick with ARR dps queues

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Got it

red apex
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i'm lv 42 at the moment. Should I do the red mage quest right away when i turn 50 or level up my summoner more first

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i heard that red mage drops to lv 30 after you do quest?

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is that right?

dire prawn
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RDM starts at 30*

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It doesn't drop to 30 but starts there

rigid narwhal
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que

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it starts at 50

red apex
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so i would have to work my way up again?

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30 or 50? lol

rigid narwhal
red apex
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i'm confused. two different answers

rigid narwhal
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they are wrong.

dire prawn
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oh

red apex
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hmm okaay

dire prawn
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I thought RDM was one of the Lv 30 jobs

red apex
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no it's a lv 50

rigid narwhal
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mch/ast/drk are 30 jobs

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sam/rdm are 50

red apex
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ohh okay

rigid narwhal
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dnc/gnb are 60

red apex
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what is dnc?

rigid narwhal
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dancer

red apex
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and gnb

dire prawn
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SAM and RDM then are Stormblood jobs right?

twilit arch
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yes

rigid narwhal
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gunbreaker

dire prawn
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Gunbreaker

red apex
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ohh okay

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got it

dire prawn
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So I can't play SAM as free trial ;-;

rigid narwhal
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nope

red apex
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so how does the system work. I'm lv 50 summoner. If i want to be a dancer I would have to level a archer all the way to 60?

agile laurel
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no

dire prawn
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You could level SMN to 60 then pick up DNC or GNB

red apex
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really?

agile laurel
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irrelevant as to what job you need to level to unlock others

dire prawn
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Their only requirement is to have Shadowbringers and one job at Lv 60

red apex
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so my level always stays the same?

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for any job?

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so if I get a red mage to 60 i can change to dancer if i wanted?

dire prawn
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No

twilit arch
#

no

dire prawn
#

Oh yes

twilit arch
#

each job has their own level

#

it doesn't matter what combat job you get to 60

dire prawn
#

If any of your jobs get to 60 you unlock the ability to job change to both DNC and GNB

twilit arch
#

so long as you have one of them at 60, and own shadowbringers you cna unlock dnc/gnb

red apex
#

so the level always stays the same for all jobs?

twilit arch
#

no

dire prawn
#

No

rigid narwhal
#

jobs levels stay at the level they are at, the level independently, and never drop

twilit arch
#

red mage and samurai require lvl 50 and own stormblood to unlock, they start at 50

frank wigeon
#

hey! when i am gathering the items for skysteel tools, must it be in diadem or can i do it outside of diadem?

rigid narwhal
#

but stay at the same that you have them, even if you switch, because a switch is temporarily

red apex
#

so as long as my red mage is 60 i can do dnc if wanted but i also can continue to level my rdmg?

twilit arch
#

yes

rigid narwhal
#

yup

red apex
#

ohh okay i get it now

#

thank you so much guys 😉

#

sorry not a wink

frank wigeon
#

yay greentearex!

red apex
#

lol

frank wigeon
#

ive been gathering for the skysteel mats outside of diadem, am i doing it right?

dire prawn
#

So as an example when I reach HW I could switch to MCH, AST or GNB if I was a Lv 50 WHM

#

DRK*

red apex
#

phew. I thought for some reason if i wanted to become a dragoon later i would have to level all the way from 10

dire prawn
#

Not GNB

rigid narwhal
#

you do

dire prawn
#

If you wanted to be a DRG you would have to start as a Lv 1 LNC

rigid narwhal
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cos dragoon starts at 1

red apex
#

oh...so I have the OPTION to become one but i would start all over from 1

dire prawn
#

yep

rigid narwhal
#

is

dire prawn
#

Only expansion classes start at a higher level

#

jobs*

rigid narwhal
#

mch/ast/drk are 30 jobs
sam/rdm are 50
dnc/gnb are 60

red apex
#

I just need to hit that certain level to be able to start it?

rigid narwhal
#

apart from those

full latch
#

Is there other websites that show all of the armor? I noticed that eorzea collection doesn't have all the armor in the game that exist

dire prawn
#

Yeah

red apex
#

okay got it lol

#

thank you!

twilit arch
dire prawn
#

So for the Heavensward classes (Machinist, Astrologian, Dark Knight) one of your jobs has to be Lv 50

#

For the Stormblood classes (Samurai, Red Mage) you need to own the Stormblood expansion and have a job at Lv 50

#

For the Shadowbringers classes (Dancer, Gunbreaker) you need to own Shadowbringers and have a job at Lv 60

red apex
#

oh I need to own the stormblood expansion to be a red mage?

#

yikes

twilit arch
#

it was released with stormblood, so yeah

dire prawn
#

All other jobs require you start at Lv 1 as their class

red apex
#

okay i'm in free trial lol

#

i see i see

#

i got it now XD

#

whew...thank you so much !

dire prawn
#

Then you have access to MCH AST and DRK as advanced jobs :^)

#

Everything else you gotta spend $$ for

red apex
#

got it

#

i guess it's about time to get a sub

dire prawn
#

And starter classes obviously are starter classes

red apex
#

yikes. i'm in ARR and lv 42 already as a summoner

#

i have a long ways to go for red mage

#

i hope i don't get bored

dire prawn
#

Just buy Stormblood and get to 50 SD3_kappacatears

red apex
#

i don't have to complete ARR and HW first?

twilit arch
#

no

red apex
#

ohhh okay coolios

twilit arch
#

stormblood and shadowbringers jobs have no main scenario quest requirements

red apex
#

that's a relief XD

twilit arch
#

its just heavensward jobs

dire prawn
#

And the HW jobs just require you to enter Ishgard

red apex
#

i see i see

dire prawn
#

When you get the giant Heavensward logo on your screen you can go get the HW jobs

red apex
#

what happens when i get stormblood and shadow?

#

the stories don't tie together?

twilit arch
#

they do

red apex
#

not arr>hw>storm>shadow?

#

oh, but i can own the expansion not do the missions until i beat ARR and HW

twilit arch
#

there's no way to go straight to stormblood/shadowbringers (unless you buy a main scenario skip)

red apex
#

and stilll get the jbos?

#

jobs*

twilit arch
#

correct, msq is basically one long story

red apex
#

ah okay, that makese sense

dire prawn
#

Why did my MSQ jump from 46 to 49

#

I'm still at 48

#

;-;

red apex
#

i thought I'd have to complete ARR HW and Storm before i can get red mage

twilit arch
#

basically they realized with hw that people really did not enjoy expac job unlocks being tied with msq requirement

red apex
#

i'm definitely gonna buy it soon then XD

twilit arch
#

so thats why sb/shb jobs only have license and lvl requirements

red apex
#

that's fair

#

i'm glad it's like that now

dire prawn
#

Question

red apex
#

woohoo i'm so ready for it

#

i think i may buy it tonight

dire prawn
#

What's considered the last quest in ARR before you enter post-ARR and start prepping to begin HW

shrewd owl
#

Before the Fall iirc

#

oh wait no

#

um

#

Ultimate Weapon?

twilit arch
#

"The Ultimate Weapon" is the final quest of ARR

shrewd owl
#

ye that

twilit arch
#

"Before the Dawn" Is the final quest of post ARR

red apex
#

do you guys think i should take advantage of the free trial and level up other classes first?

#

before i get the expansions

dire prawn
#

How far is 'Operation Archon' from 'The Ultimate Weapon'?

dire prawn
red apex
#

you're leveling up all the jobs before level cap?

dire prawn
#

Just get everything I have available to Lv 60 or as high as I can get it before the expac drops then buy complete collection

red apex
#

nice nice

#

i may do that too

twilit arch
#

like 2 or so @dire prawn

dire prawn
#

oh

red apex
#

what are the options to level up other jobs if you completed msq already

#

only dungeons mainly?

twilit arch
#

!faq altlvlguide

zinc orbitBOT
red apex
#

thank you!

#

i'll check it out

graceful vault
#

I am sorry but I am really new. I completed Sastasha dungeon, do I get any kind of Experience or Gils for completing the dungeon after the first time? Like duty finders thatn when you complete you get gils and experience rewards.

dire prawn
#

Dungeons, Hunt Log, Daily Leveling Roulette, uhh... I think GC stuff?

red apex
#

in 5 days? that sounds amazing

twilit arch
#

yes, you'll get exp/gil whenever you run the dungeon @graceful vault

dire prawn
#

Without the item from preordering ShB I reckon that guide probably takes a week to go from 1 to 70

dire prawn
#

Or in our case 1 to 60

red apex
#

or still stick with free trial

dire prawn
red apex
#

i use the steam version and it may go on sale next month

dire prawn
#

I use no version LUL

#

PS4 free trial uwu

red apex
#

ah i see

graceful vault
#

On the other hand, I started in Ul'dah and now I see that I do not stop traveling doing the main missions (I completed now the pirate quest). Should I keep doing the main quest thread and ignore the Gridania and Limsa side quests? I see a lot of missions and it really overwhelms me. I would like to follow an order. Make Ul'dah first, then for example Gridania with the three classes there and then Limsa.

#

But I dont know if it is optimal. I see that there are lot of costs for traveling

twilit arch
#

yes, general recommendation is to focus on the main scenario quest, your class/job quests and bluequest

#

sidequest can generally be ignored, they're not that great for exp and are mostly there for lore/story

graceful vault
#

I wish teleports would be free, they cost a lot 😆

twilit arch
#

as you get higher in lvl, they start getting pretty negligible

#

since the gil given from msq is generally more than enough to cover costs

graceful vault
#

great, I really like to start playing triple triad in gold saucer and getting my mount 😄 Lot of thansk guys!

dire prawn
#

At the Lv 49 MSQ after the last one I just did where the MSQ finally caught up to my level I have 191.4k gil

#

So the MSQ overpays your teleporting fees

#

By a lot

graceful vault
#

the blues with a PLUS sign

dire prawn
#

They unlock content

twilit arch
#

some of them are

#

but in general bluequest unlock some kind of content

dire prawn
#

The ones that go 'So You Want To Be A ___' are ones for the starter classes I believe

twilit arch
#

mhm

dire prawn
#

Not sure if the advanced jobs in HW/SB/ShB are titled the same

twilit arch
#

they're not

dire prawn
#

Didn't think so since the one for DNC is in Gridania and it's some weird title

#

At least

#

I think it's DNC

graceful vault
dire prawn
#

I'm ignoring all of the class/jobs ones because I'm focused on leveling my WHM via the MSQ

#

But once I hit post-ARR and my unicorn can fly I'm gonna start leveling other jobs

dire prawn
graceful vault
#

I am playing free, once i get max level i will level the other ones and when I am maxed if I still play I will pay

warped nest
#

Once you have done a few dungeons, you can do the leveling roulette once per day with a different job and slowly level it up

dire prawn
#

So if you pull up your map and look at the quests you can just avoid all the bluequest that are at an area marked with '_____'s Guild'

warped nest
#

While your WHM focus on story

#

Just a suggestion

tropic frigate
#

I cleared all the 4 cardinals of virtue job quests. I heard a 5th one would unlock, where do you go to start that one?

graceful vault
#

no idea what is ARR

dire prawn
#

The start of the game

warped nest
#

A Realm Reborn

#

Level 1-50 contents

dire prawn
#

yis

graceful vault
#

ok

#

Thanks

twilit arch
#

at the crystarium, in the bar area @tropic frigate

tropic frigate
#

oh wait

twilit arch
#

ye

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full latch
#

whats the best equilizer mode?

#

oddly enough I feel like the logitech one sounds better than the standard eq

solid lion
#

Whats the best food and syrup for crafting?

slate arrow
#

Chili crab and depends on your meld setup

jovial tide
#

How many memories of the dying do you get per fate?

obsidian patio
#

1

last vale
#

Hello, kinda nooby question- my mainchar is a WMA (raiding and so on). for story-progressing, there is no sense to do it with a WMA/healer, even if its the mainchar regarding to high gear etc., or? a high single target dps char e.g. samurai/summoner is better; so the only question is at what item lvl my chars are. wma is 486 and sma is 480, so not a real difference

jovial tide
#

So 60 fates just for 1 weapon upgrade?

#

Dang

last vale
#

white mage

dire prawn
#

WHM

slate arrow
#

You mean WHM

last vale
#

exactly!

slate arrow
#

But otherwise you can do the MSQ as whatever job you like

dire prawn
#

And to answer your question it doesn't matter what job you use for MSQ

slate arrow
#

No point in restricting yourself to one job

dire prawn
#

All jobs can do MSQ

#

I'm doing it just fine as a WHM myself

#

Though granted I'm still in ARR

last vale
#

yes, my question was- MSQ should be easier/faster with a st dps job

slate arrow
#

Assuming you don't fail mechanics, definitely

#

Using healers is mainly so that you can recover from fuck ups better

#

DPS do have the passive echo regen but even then they have a soft fuck up limit

#

Healers and Paladin? Psssh, just use your heals if you fucked up

dire prawn
#

I just use my heals whenever I randomly lose half my HP

leaden ginkgo
#

im trying to upgrade my account to full version, i bought shadowbringer on steam and got a code but it says my code is invalid

dire prawn
#

Did you also buy the base game on steam?

slate arrow
#

You can't mix codes

#

If you have standalone FFXIV you need a standalone Shadowbringers code

jovial tide
#

Are emerald weapons a direct drop from the trial?

slate arrow
#

Yes

timid geyser
#

Msq as a tank/healer is cool

dreamy summit
#

I was wondering if anyone else had or has issues connecting a ps4 controller to the computer to play, and if anyone has a fix? I get it connected to the computer and I use the usb controller configuration that’s just in the pc and it works, but then I try to use the controller in game and it doesn’t work and the in game controller configuration doesn’t work. I’ve downloaded ps4 remote play to try and get the drivers for the controller as suggested by someone in the novice network but I’m lost on how to fix this

timid geyser
#

As a tank you can use your cooldowns to resist more and as a healer you can heal

leaden ginkgo
#

so last year, i bought the starter edition and this year i bought shadowbringers

red river
#

Im new to MMO is 14 beginner friendly

leaden ginkgo
#

im not sure how it works

slate arrow
#

@dreamy summit use Steam Overlay for DS4 controllers

timid geyser
slate arrow
#

@leaden ginkgo where did you buy starter

leaden ginkgo
#

both on steam

slate arrow
#

What does Mogstation say then

timid geyser
#

If you're not sure about taking it you can do the free trial

slate arrow
#

It's likely already automatically redeemed

timid geyser
#

It goes up to 60

dreamy summit
leaden ginkgo
#

this is what it says

red river
timid geyser
red river
#

Woah

slate arrow
#

It looks like you have something interfering with the dualshock controller

red river
#

First expac buyers be like :

slate arrow
#

Try disabling stuff like DS4Windows and quitting Steam

#

If it still does it, I don't know

#

You might need to enable controller support in the system settings

dreamy summit
slate arrow
#

Go to your Mogstation home page and scroll down to the table which shows what you own

#

If it's off steam it's likely already redeemed to your account

#

I think, I don't use steam for mine

gritty cedar
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leaden ginkgo
#

is it not this

timid geyser
#

No

leaden ginkgo
#

i cant find another place to enter code

timid geyser
#

This is to upgrade to the full version

leaden ginkgo
#

it says im on trial version

slate arrow
#

You never bought starter then

timid geyser
#

Wait are you on trial?

leaden ginkgo
#

i did buy starter on steam tho

slate arrow
#

You'll need to buy starter before you can redeem Shadowbringers

#

no, you didn't

leaden ginkgo
#

unless this is a second account

timid geyser
#

Yeah then you need the starter edition

slate arrow
#

Not according to Mogstation

leaden ginkgo
#

lol

#

wait

twilit arch
#

Then imput the starter edition code first

slate arrow
#

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

leaden ginkgo
#

i guess i made 2 accounts

twilit arch
#

unless you're getting that error message when you attempt to put in the starter edition code

leaden ginkgo
#

@leaden ginkgo tbh i tried creating an account just now and I'm having issues too

#

XD

#

yeah i registered 2 different accounts i think

#

lmao

#

wtf was i thinking

gritty cedar
#

steam account is separated from SE account, yes

timid geyser
#

You still need an SE account to play on steam

twilit arch
#

even as a steam user, you still go thru mogstation

gritty cedar
#

i meant the steam log in account and the mog one are separated

twilit arch
#

that's not the issue

slate arrow
#

They're not linked

#

Is what is the issue

leaden ginkgo
#

wait did i over purchase or is it fine

#

i redeemed the code and it works out fine tho

#

thanks alot

#

turns out i made 2 accounts, i probably made one using my other email a long time ago

leaden ginkgo
#

question... could i register with another e-mail and then change it?

#

since the one I used seems to be in limbo...

twilit arch
#

yes but you need to be able to log into the account to change it

leaden ginkgo
#

perfect 😄

#

then i'll just register with another one

#

and then change it

twilit arch
#

once you log in square enix account settings > update account information > update e-mail address

leaden ginkgo
#

it says i'll have to wait 24h

#

cause the other one "is taken"

#

but w/e i'll wait, at least i can start playing

#

thanks @twilit arch

#

can 2 people share an apartment

gritty cedar
#

ppl can visit ur apartment if u set it to public, other than that u can’t share unless they changed something

sullen phoenix
#

Any tips for someone overwhelmed with dps rotations?

#

Specifically summoner

gritty cedar
#

practice with stone sky sea, and u will get it down in no time

sullen phoenix
#

Ok I’ll try loading that up rn. I have a summoner guide up it’s just a lot compared to white mage which I probably wasn’t playing correctly either lol

dire prawn
#

Why do you think I started with WHM LUL

gritty cedar
leaden ginkgo
#

I just started thaumaturge

#

Is it hard to learn the rotation?

sullen phoenix
#

Oh cool! Thx

leaden ginkgo
#

I mean, are there a lot of stuff to consider when learning rotations in BLM

gritty cedar
#

there’s no exact rotation unless u re a blm, u just need to learn the opener, after that it all depends on skill priority

leaden ginkgo
#

sorry for bad wording

#

What openers should I use? Does it depend on the enemy or the area I'm in?

twilit arch
#

!faq blmleveling

zinc orbitBOT
#
THM/BLM leveling rotations
gritty cedar
#

u should join the balance discord, they have up to date openers there

twilit arch
#

for ease of use of the image that was posted: f# = fire # (i.e f3 = fire 3), t# = thunder, b# = blizzard

dire prawn
raven cliff
#

Does the game run that much better on PS5 than on PS4 Pro?

fresh lodge
#

Well the SSD vs HDD makes a huge difference

raven cliff
#

Doesn't PS4 Pro use SSD too?

fresh lodge
#

No

gritty cedar
#

the loading time on ps5 will make u not a same man again, and the game is smoother

raven cliff
#

Oh no

#

I'm scared now

#

I guess if I were to find a PS5 then I would literally have to get rid of the PS4 because I'd get spoiled by those load times

gritty cedar
#

yes

raven cliff
#

Hmmm

#

How does that compare to a good gaming PC?

fresh lodge
#

"good gaming pc" means nothing

raven cliff
#

Price wise I feel like the PS5 is gonna be better

#

That's fair, good is very general

leaden ginkgo
#

do you guys suggest me to create my first char where there is a higher "census"?

#

like europe - lich

twilit arch
#

i would not recommend using that website at all

leaden ginkgo
#

XD

#

gotcha

twilit arch
#

especially if you're looking at the active section

#

as their method for showign activity is very very bad

leaden ginkgo
#

also what is the "legacy" thing on servers mean?

twilit arch
#

servers that were 1.0 or are merged 1.0 servers

#

they dont really mean much these days

leaden ginkgo
#

gotcha thnx

dire prawn
#

Legacy server just means they're the oldest server(s) on that datacenter

leaden ginkgo
#

oh

#

should that be "good"

twilit arch
#

like i said, it means pretty much nothing these days

#

because most of the servers have been around since ARR

#

with exception of 4 in EU

leaden ginkgo
#

aha

twilit arch
#

but even then, those servers have been around for alteast a year

#

so its really a moot point all in all

dire prawn
#

The only servers that would be "good" would be the preferred ones for leveling up quicker

leaden ginkgo
#

i'll just pick the one i like the most name wise then lol

dire prawn
#

But the next patch comes out in just under a week and the preferred servers should change

leaden ginkgo
#

oh

#

which one do you recommend me now if i want to go to chaos?

dire prawn
#

Even then you don't need a preferred server to level up quickly

twilit arch
#

!faq worldpick

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The majority of content is cross-world, with the exception of Free Companies, Linkshells, and restrictions when visiting other worlds.

If you don't mind where you play, choose a world that is Preferred or New for character creation bonuses. Check world status by using !status <world name> or via the Lodestone. For information about the status types, use !faq worldtype.

Notable worlds:

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  • Tonberry & Kujata (Large amount of Oceanic players)
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leaden ginkgo
#

thnx

dire prawn
#

I'm on Aether's legacy server Sargatanas and it wasn't until now when I hit Lv 48 that my MSQ finally caught up to me in level

#

So just pick any world on a datacenter in your region

#

Physically, all datacenters for a region are in the same location so it also doesn't matter which one you pick

leaden ginkgo
#

oh so that's why people say french and german well it's just 1 server on light and chaos

dire prawn
#

For example Aether, Primal and Crystal, which are the NA datacenters are physically all located in California

#

And the EU datacenters if I'm not mistaken are in Berlin

leaden ginkgo
#

that's what i've read

#

so it doesn't really matter

twilit arch
#

frankfurt for EU servers

dire prawn
#

Oh

#

Thought it was Berlin

#

Where even is Frankfurt 🤔

leaden ginkgo
#

so theres no real ingame difference between light and chaos

dire prawn
#

None at all

leaden ginkgo
#

and even less

dire prawn
#

Whatsoever

leaden ginkgo
#

when picking a server

#

gotcha

dire prawn
#

And even less when picking a World

leaden ginkgo
#

it's a bit confusing so many posibilities to my brain XD

dire prawn
#

Because almost everything is cross-world since you can just visit another World if you want to

#

Kael I has a question

leaden ginkgo
#

ah

#

yes?

dire prawn
#

No Kaelwryn

leaden ginkgo
#

no i meant like yes to the crossworld

#

xD

dire prawn
#

Oh

#

Yeah

#

You can just visit other worlds

leaden ginkgo
#

so you can travel for thru all the chaos "servers"

#

is that what you mean

twilit arch
#

basically if you're not sure where to go, either go for a preferred server or a server with the name you like that's in your region

leaden ginkgo
#

or the light ones too

dire prawn
#

For example I have three people on my friends' list who are from different worlds on Aether

#

It's limited to your datacenter

#

So if you're on the Light datacenter you can visit any of the Worlds on the Light datacenter

#

But you can't visit worlds on the Chaos datacenter

#

And vice-versa

leaden ginkgo
#

well chaos shows with a starry thingy xD

#

@dire prawn ok that makes it clear

#

thnx

dire prawn
#

Yeah

#

Like me right

#

I'm on Sargatanas on the Aether datacenter

#

But I can go visit Gilgamesh or Siren or Adamantoise if I wanted to

#

But I can't visit, say, Balmung, which is on Crystal

leaden ginkgo
#

it's like 2 different servers light and chaos but chaos has "clusters" (ok might not be that but you know what i mean)

dire prawn
#

Or Famfrit which is on Primal

leaden ginkgo
#

aha

twilit arch
#

so basically

#

data centers are a group of servers

leaden ginkgo
#

yeah i get it now

#

groups of servers of people that can visit each other

twilit arch
#

mhm

leaden ginkgo
#

if you are in that datacenter

#

ok

dire prawn
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Yep

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So if you wanted to visit Worlds on a different datacenter you'd have to make a new character on that datacenter

leaden ginkgo
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then it's just like... pick 1 datacenter and just the server itself doesn't matter

dire prawn
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Yep

leaden ginkgo
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i'm sure i could always transfer (paying)

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to another datacenter

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but it doesn't really afect on servers

dire prawn
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The only exception is if you want to level quickly because you're leveling an alt on another datacenter, in which case you'd want to make a character on a Preferred World for the Road to 70 bonus

twilit arch
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server itself doesn't matter too much, but if you have a particular guild you want to join then it kind of does

dire prawn
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That too

oak ice
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The only real thing a server limits is that you can't join guilds on other servers

twilit arch
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as guilds (called free companies ingame) are server based still

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and housing

dire prawn
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Kaelwryn I has a question about Road to 70

twilit arch
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what's up

leaden ginkgo
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which is funny cause whatever i chose light or chaos and regardless of server i get

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XD

oak ice
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Euf

dire prawn
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Does the Road to 70 bonus on Preferred Worlds apply to everything (MSQ, dungeons, etc) or is it like the accumulated exp bonus from staying in a sanctuary where it only applies to mob kills

oak ice
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Where are you located?

twilit arch
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everything

dire prawn
oak ice
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Literally everything

twilit arch
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it is pretty much the only exp buff that does so

oak ice
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Even quests give 2x exp

dire prawn
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That is

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Disgusting

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Is it possible to hit 60 before finishing the ARR MSQs then 🤔

oak ice
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Very likely

twilit arch
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yep

oak ice
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Unless you pick up SAM or RDM to funnel the exp into

dire prawn
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What if I can't pick up either of those classes because they're Stormblood classes and I'm on free trial

twilit arch
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can pick up one of the ARR classes and level that up

dire prawn
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True

twilit arch
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getting it to 50 will be very quick

dire prawn
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Like Rogue

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ROG is the only ARR class that isn't a starter class right

oak ice
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Yes

dire prawn
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Speaking of ROG where do I go to get that

obsidian patio
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Limsa Lominsa near the fishing guild

oak ice
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Bottom of the map on the lower decks

dire prawn
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Is ROG/NIN mechanically difficult to play? Or how does the class/job play out

obsidian patio
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I’d say it’s a bit of a busy job during its burst window

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But outside of that it’s pretty mellow

mint ferry
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I've been really enjoying Ninja and the Rouge questline is actually fantastic imo

obsidian patio
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So if you like to press like 30 buttons in 15 seconds every minute it’s fun

dire prawn
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Do you think it's easier on controller than it is on kb/m?

obsidian patio
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I can’t really give an honest answer since I never really like most of the melee DPS as a whole, except for sometimes dragoon.

dire prawn
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oh

obsidian patio
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But in terms of button space I never really struggled fitting all my skills

dire prawn
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What about ranged dps then

obsidian patio
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👌👌👌👌👌👌

mint ferry
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I'd recommend KB/M over controller p much every time

dire prawn
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Do you play BRD/DNC or one of the casters

obsidian patio
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I “main” a lot of the jobs, but the ones I play often are all the healers, BLM/RDM, and DNC/MCH.

dire prawn
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What does MCH even do

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🤔

obsidian patio
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They’re like a slightly more tame Ninja in terms of burst

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It’s still pretty hectic, but you only press 3 different buttons really fast for like 8 seconds every so often

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Instead of like 10 different actions

dire prawn
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oh

obsidian patio
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They also get a mech you can summon that punches stuff

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!action automaton Queen

dense hound
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And you have a gun

zinc orbitBOT
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**Automaton Queen** : lvl 80 MCH (6.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Deploys an Automaton Queen to fight at your side.
Battery Gauge Cost: 50
Duration increases as Battery Gauge exceeds minimum cost at time of deployment, up to a maximum of 20 seconds.
Consumes Battery Gauge upon execution.
Shuts down when time expires or upon execution of Queen Overdrive.
Shares a recast timer with Queen Overdrive.

dire prawn
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Physical Ranged DPS
Summon that punches stuff

dense hound
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Sometimes you need a little less gun and a little more pile bunker

open ember
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MCH uses a gun. Pew Pew

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Lol

green grail
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it's an upgraded "turret"

open ember
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That's all there is to MCH

green grail
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i.e. it's a damage over time skill tacked onto pretty crappy AI

obsidian patio
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Yeah in terms of overall Depth/Difficulty Machinist is one of the easier jobs to play

dire prawn
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Battery Gauge

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Is WHM the only freaking class that uses mana or what

obsidian patio
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You build it up with your combo.

open ember
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And PLD

obsidian patio
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Only healers, casters, Paladin, and Dark Knight use MP

open ember
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oh and DRK

dire prawn
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Does SMN count as a caster 🤔

open ember
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Yes

obsidian patio
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Yes

dense hound
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So... half of the jobs.

dire prawn
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Wait DRK uses MP?

open ember
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Yes

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It does

dense hound
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A fuckload of it too

dire prawn
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What about PLD

open ember
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Yes

dire prawn
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How much does it use

dense hound
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Also a fuckload

obsidian patio
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!action edge of shadows

zinc orbitBOT
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**Edge of Shadow** : lvl 74 DRK (3000 MP) (2.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 500.
Additional Effect: Grants Darkside, increasing damage dealt by 10%
Duration: 30s
Extends Darkside duration by 30s to a maximum of 60s.
Shares a recast timer with Flood of Shadow.

open ember
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Not as much as DRK but quite a bit

dense hound
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20% per mana using action instead of 30%

obsidian patio
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Their main combos and a cooldown gives them MP regularly

green grail
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the tank mana usage is different than mana management on for example healers

dense hound
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Imagine casting Afflatus Misery and it eating a third of your mana

dire prawn
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3000 MP monkaS

dense hound
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They don’t use it like normal spells, but it’s still mana usage

dire prawn
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Is Afflatus Misery the big boi damage skill for WHM

dense hound
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Yes.

dire prawn
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At 74 right

dense hound
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Yeah

open ember
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When you eat 3 lilies you gain a "Blood Lily" which is big damage

dire prawn
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Blood for the Blood Lily

open ember
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!action Afflatus Misery

zinc orbitBOT
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**Afflatus Misery** : lvl 74 WHM (2.5 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Deals unaspected damage to target and all enemies nearby it with a potency of 900 for the first enemy, and 25% less for all remaining enemies.
Can only be executed when the Blood Lily is in full bloom.

dense hound
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This may be why you hear some white mages screaming blood for the blood lily, yea.

dire prawn
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Aura Astra says it a lot

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I'm guessing that ability right there is why it's a meme

open ember
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Can be up to 100k+ damage

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For just Afflatus Misery

dire prawn
open ember
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At lv80

dense hound
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Well it’s the... what, top five in single biggest hits in the game?

dire prawn
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potency of 900
I believe it

open ember
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Ive seen 150k damage

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For Afflatus Misery

dense hound
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This is a healer by the way

dire prawn
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"healer"

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No wonder WHM is called Green DPS

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If Afflatus Misery can hit for upwards of 150k

dense hound
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Thus,
Blood for the Blood Lily
MISERY FOR THE MISERY THRONE

dire prawn
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I haven't heard that one yet

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Misery for the Misery Throne

dense hound
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Have you heard of Warhammer 40K?

dire prawn
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I have

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But I know jack shit about the fandom

dense hound
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This is relevant to your question

A god in that setting, Khorne

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His followers often shout “Blood for the blood god, skulls for the skull throne”

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Thus the connection. This may only be me but I find it funny

dire prawn
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I've heard that chant before in a few different games LUL

dense hound
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Anyways.

WHM has one of the most damaging skills in the game, at least by potency.

robust crow
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might be relevant to point out now that whm is actually the lowest raidwide dps healer right now

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both scholar and astrologian output higher raidwide dps

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at high end, that is

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they have the highest personal dps but the lowest raidwide dps

dire prawn
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Is that why people prefer taking AST + SCH when they're doing raids or progs

dense hound
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Yeah.

robust crow
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no

dense hound
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No?

robust crow
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there aren't any "preferred" prog comps

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all the healers are great for prog

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white mage is still the most popular healer in the game

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they are very easy to play well and have the most accessible emergency healing

dense hound
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b l o o d l i l y

twilit arch
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sch+ast may be the highest dps combo, but sch+whm has the higher amount of parses

robust crow
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most raid teams are going to run white mage + ast or sch

twilit arch
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so for the most part, generally people go with what people are more comfortable on

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but whm+ ast/sch is often times "safer" for prog

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ast+sch would be more for reclears, if your group cares about speed on those

robust crow
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ast is flexible since they can swap stances based on their cohealer

dire prawn
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Stances?

robust crow
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astrologian has two "sects"

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which are effectively a stance

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one specializes in regens and generally has higher output, the other specializes in shields

twilit arch
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nocturnal sect, which is the shield "stance" and diurnal sect, which is the regen "stance"

robust crow
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so an astrologian can switch to being a shield healer when paired with a whm

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and a regen healer when paired with a sch

dire prawn
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Cause SCH has shields right

open ember
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Its flexible

robust crow
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some prog comps run regen ast + whm as well

open ember
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Because it offers both sch & whm abilities