FF14's endgame routine is far less grindy and far less RNG dependent than WoW's in my experience (I haven't played the latest WoW expac though)
#questions-and-help
strange coral
robust crow
most people's big weekly investments are capping your weekly currency and clearing the savage raids
open coral
You can cap currency with just a few days of dungeon roulettes and Normal raid runs.
sage cape
thats how I feel with WoW, its takes a lot of time investment to anything decent and getting gear is a nightmare imho
open coral
It's maybe a total of 4 or 5 hours investment over the whole week.
open coral
You also can't get duplicates of the same piece you already have.
robust crow
i510 gear is piss easy to get
the difference between i510 and i530 is probably between 10-20% output, maybe less
open coral
So there's no chance of getting the same thing 10 weeks in a row and never getting an upgrade for the thing you need an upgrade for.
robust crow
i520 gear is weekly gated and doesn't require anything high end
all i530 pieces currently require high end, but won't in a few months
sage cape
I see, from what I've been keeping up with, FFXIV "end game" can be more rewarding
robust crow
so if you were a casual, you can expect to be doing only a little bit less damage than a player in BiS
open coral
By the time the next expansion rolls around, even the most casual of casual players can theoretically be geared to a similar level as people who do Savage.
Gearing in general tends to feel a lot more rewarding in XIV, simply because there's a much lower level of RNG associated with it. Unlike WoW where you might not see something you need for an upgrade drop for five or six weeks in a row, XIV has a system where once you've cleared specific (Savage or EX) content a set number of times, you can simply buy the upgrade with tokens you get on each clear.
sage cape
Gearing in general tends to feel a lot more rewarding in XIV, simply because the...
Yes! This is a big issue with wow right now, it's sooo discouraging to do anything : \
open coral
I know. That was a big reason behind why I quit WoW just last month.
sage cape
I ran high keys, raids, getting the vault filled up and 0...
open coral
I literally didn't get a belt upgrade for the first four weeks, and I didn't get a weapon upgrade until the day I quit.
strange coral
And 14's gear doesn't have randomized stats/traits on them. This one named piece of gear has the same stats as everyone else's of the same name (before adding materia). And no titanforging to worry about.
sage cape
they got rid of titanforging, finally, but getting an item..omg...it's so scarce.
robust crow
if you are curious
I can link you a guide to this tier's first boss
so you have an idea what a savage boss looks like
robust crow
open coral
It's funny you say chaotic, but the fact is that XIV raids are actually much more scripted than WoW ones.
robust crow
the primary mechanic in this raid is the tiles that happen around 4 minutes into this video
sage cape
It's funny you say chaotic, but the fact is that XIV raids are actually much mor...
haha I bet! but...so many things exploding and happening at the same time, kinda frightening
dense hound
If you have no clue what’s going on or going to happen savage raids are confusing as hell lmao
open coral
Let me put it this way: XIV fights, even the Savage ones, are scripted enough that addons like DBM or Weakauras are completely unnecessary (and also not allowed in the game - they're a bannable offense if you get caught).
little swift
That said equivalents for those exisy
open coral
The only addon that many people use for raiding purposes is ACT, which is a Details!-like parser. But you can't mention if you use it because, as mentioned, you'll get banned.
little swift
Cactbot and triggernometry exist
open coral
But just like warcraftlogs is a thing... we've got fflogs.com
sage cape
you can use that personally? so you can track your performance?
open coral
Yes
dense hound
Just don’t talk about it ingame
open coral
dense hound
It’s a dont ask don’t tell policy
open coral
Literally the same as warcraftlogs, just for XIV
sage cape
alright, got it
it's good tho, WoW mods do too much
the only thing left is for those mods spoonfeed you
open coral
After ARR, mechanics telegraphs in XIV got a lot more standardized, so it's always going to be fairly obvious what to do with a mechanic.
sage cape
some WA's even tell you where to dodge or use a mitigation CD
surreal rapids
do i need to do anything to control my partner chocobo?
he's learning skills, he learn one with high enmity but i never see him cast anything special and he never takes aggro
sage cape
After ARR, mechanics telegraphs in XIV got a lot more standardized, so it's alwa...
souns good
open coral
Like four big arrows over someone's head means "stack on this person"
little swift
Well fflogs and warcraftlogs are run by the same person
open coral
do i need to do anything to control my partner chocobo?
he's learning skills, he...
Chocobo companions aren't very good tanks. You're better off speccing them as healer or dps first.
sage cape
I really like how free XIV is, so far, I don't feel punished to pursue other jobs to lvl up or explore some zones
little swift
do i need to do anything to control my partner chocobo?
he's learning skills, he...
Can go into the companion menu and change the stance to encourage them to use skills of a specific type more but free stance is better
sage cape
and the combat feels really good
little swift
Tank choco is generally the worst
It won't aggro more than you
Healer and attacker are better
surreal rapids
ok, that's good to know
open coral
and the combat feels really good
Combat gets a lot more interesting at higher levels too. You get ogcds that will weave in between your gcd abilities for more dynamic rotations. That you, as a person who's played WoW, are finding the combat fun now is very unusual.
Most people complain a lot about the 2.5s gcd
sage cape
I really like it ahah I find it more easier to track what you're doing and leads less to skills overlap
robust crow
ff14 is slower than wow at first
sage cape
yeah it was, I felt that at least until lvl 20 - 30
robust crow
but ff14 also takes a long time before it becomes "faster"
like, level 60-70
also, one thing that happens in wow that doesn't happen in ff14 is pooling resources
surreal rapids
it'd be great if they shook things up a bit at low levels in the next expansion
robust crow
classes like rogues will stand and do nothing for seconds at a time to save energy
that never happens in ff14
all classes in ff14 universally follows "always be casting"
surreal rapids
but with covid, it's even harder to work on this
sage cape
true, saving resources for CDs and etc
robust crow
you keep your GCD rolling always no matter what
little swift
but with covid, it's even harder to work on this
It isn't
They're on track to releasing the next expansion. We're a week out from the next announcement
sage cape
all classes in ff14 universally follows "always be casting"
this makes sense
valid iron
this isnt really a traditional question but im stuck and cant find one of the battle themes, i dont know what to search for to find it
open coral
it'd be great if they shook things up a bit at low levels in the next expansion
It's incredibly rare that they drastically change any class at the low level end. They only do that when they entirely rework a class because it just doesn't work the way it's meant to.
open coral
this isnt really a traditional question but im stuck and cant find one of the ba...
Where did you hear it?
sage cape
guys btw, thank you very much for the honest feedback. Can't wait to get to max lvl ^^
surreal rapids
i meant that if they're already busy with an expansion and an ultimate fight, it's especially hard to divert resources to other stuff, in the current situation
valid iron
Where did you hear it?
ive heard it multiple places, but the most recent spot i heard it was in the post-stormblood quests, i was doing a duty, and during the 2nd phase of the duty the theme started playing.
surreal rapids
i'd just like a wardrobe system like wow and a dungeon journal to give you a tiny refresher on mechanics when you do some really random dungeon in the leveling routlette
open coral
ive heard it multiple places, but the most recent spot i heard it was in the pos...
Do you remember which duty?
valid iron
Do you remember which duty?
is there any place to see all the duties ive done?
open coral
You can check the duty finder to see what you've unlocked if it was a group instance @valid iron
civic spoke
Okay, so I've decided to focus on leveling astrologian, red mage, and white mage (and samrai on an alt), so what might be the best way to level these? Astro is level 36, rdm is 56, haven't started white mage yet, and i'm going to unlock sam on my other. I know that's a lot, but I want to have some options so I don't get bored with one class
little swift
!faq altlvlguide
zinc orbitBOT
little swift
Do msq first and foremost though
dire prawn
I knew as soon as I saw the question that Channy was gonna drop the faq
@open coral hi there
open coral
Hi dead
valid iron
You can check the duty finder to see what you've unlocked if it was a group inst...
i believe it was return of the bull, it involved aether spheres and deflecting them with your active duty ability
sage cape
and every class feels so unique. This is a plus for me
civic spoke
well, i'm on my main trying to level other classes, which is the main (heh) problem. i've heard most people do fates and palace of the dead
or whatever the gelmorra thing is
robust crow
no one does fates
if you want to level quickly you'll be following the guide that was linked above
in addition to doing dailies
open coral
OH, I know what quest you're talking about @valid iron give me a minute to make sure the song I'm thinking of actually plays during the second phase of that.
robust crow
palace of the dead is an alternative option
valid iron
OH, I know what quest you're talking about <@!232712919953965056> give me a minu...
alright! its basically a boss-ified version of one of the main themes in the game
strange coral
Isn't it the same song that plays for all of the SB dungeon final bosses?
open coral
It's not. It's uh. Channy help. I don't remember what it's called.
I know the song though.
civic spoke
okay, that's a really good guide, thanks
ionic hazel
What collectability does Aethersand guarantee an HQ from reduction
little swift
if you want to level quickly you'll be following the guide that was linked above
Alt in this case refers to alternate jobs. Very rarely do people play another character
ionic hazel
is it only at 1k collectability or
valid iron
im honestly not sure, theres a lot of recurring themes in this game so finding one specifically is a pain
robust crow
did you ping the wrong person channy
civic spoke
one more question: after which quest do i get the iconic astrologian set? i've been looking on wikis, but none of them state which ones give the set
open coral
Oh, actually it is the boss theme from SB.
little swift
Yes I did lmao fuck phone scroll
dense hound
I believe the job quest at 50 does, Tsukii
little swift
Lv60 70 and 80 @civic spoke
dense hound
Oh, nevermind
dire prawn
phone
dense hound
Thank you channy
little swift
50 gives a generic set
civic spoke
damn, all the way at 60? that's going to be brutal
thank the gods healer queues pop like crazy though
little swift
You only get artifact sets for the jobs from their expansion onwards
So red mage only gets 2 sets
dire prawn
thank the gods healer queues pop like crazy though
As a babeh WHM I can confirm this
robust crow
is it only at 1k collectability or
i'm pretty sure it's almost always HQ if you're doing aetherial breakdown, but regardless you want to be at 1000 collectability at all times
valid iron
Is this your song?
yes it is, thank you, i feel stupid for not figuring it out lol
robust crow
it's worth going to 1000 even if you're 950
open coral
No problem. 😄
little swift
1k is the limit
ionic hazel
Does it affect the amount you get?
dire prawn
My queue times have been exactly 0 
little swift
For bonus its nice
robust crow
being maxed collectability dramatically increases your chances of getting bonus
little swift
Can give a bit more yield
ionic hazel
ah figured
robust crow
bonus is where the majority of your aethersand is going to come from
little swift
Though thats usually rng anyways
ornate owl
Did they get rid of having to augment your IW gear?
open coral
Yes
robust crow
they did
it comes augmented by default now
they also removed the unique restriction on rings
so you can wear two ironworks rings
ornate owl
Oh nice!
I was wondering about the rings.
Thank you!
little swift
Oh nice!
I was wondering about the rings.
Thank you!
On non endgame tome gear you can wear double augmented now
Oof i read slow
sage cape
how do you get your chocobuddy? seen some fellas with it but duno how to get it
dense hound
There’s a quest you can do in gridania, after getting a chocobo mount
open coral
You have to do the level 30 
"My Feisty Chocobo" in Camp Tranquil.
dense hound
That’s the bitch
sage cape
You have to do the level 30 <:bluequest:320999216031989780> "My Feisty Chocobo" ...
ah damn! saw that Q but ignored it xD gotta do it
thx
open coral
Almost every is some kind of content unlock, and worth doing. The exception to that rule would be that you can ignore the "Leves of X" and "So You Want to Be A X" ones.
The former unlock levequests, which are basically low level content, and the latter are the class/job unlocks.
open coral
Everything else will unlock things like combat chocobos and glamour and additional dungeons or raids.
sage cape
alright! I saw it now that blue quest givers also unlock dungeons...no wonder I had so few x')
open coral
Most of your dungeons you'll get through the MSQ (one every odd level from level 51 onwards), or upon reaching the patch content for each expansion.
The patch dungeons get their own roulette, and don't really give great rewards or xp since they were never meant for leveling purposes.
After you finish the level 50 MSQ "The Ultimate Weapon" you'll see a TON of appear to unlock the level 50 patch dungeons, as well as things like the Binding Coils of Bahamut raid and the Crystal Tower alliance raid.
sage cape
After you finish the level 50 MSQ "The Ultimate Weapon" you'll see a TON of <:bl...
I had to do the Crystal Tower raid in order to move on with the MSQ
it was really fun tho
open coral
Oh, you're already past that.
sage cape
yeah, Im in Ishgard and that cloud thing
open coral
CT used to be optional content, but because it's directly connected to Shadowbringers, they made it required content when they revamped the ARR MSQ.
sage cape
had fun on CT
open coral
There are raids like CT in each of the expansions.
zinc orbitBOT
little swift
!faq contentunlock @sage cape
zinc orbitBOT
little swift
For reference on where some stuff you.might have missed
sage cape
thank you Channy!
quasi thistle
is it okay if i the tank to pull less mobs to get higher safety margin and put less strain on healer even it will result in longer clear time ?
little swift
Judge how well your party is doing
Theres no firm yes or no answer here
If things die really quick there is 0 reason to not pull more at once
open coral
As a healer, I would prefer that you, as a tank, set a pace that you're comfortable with.
If the dps have a problem with that, they can deal with it.
little swift
And safety is rarely an issue unless you're playing incorrectly or the healer is
steep pelican
So I just tried Frontline, and I had no idea how to PVP. I play RDM and had issues hitting enemies because they're out of range or die before I can get finish casting a spell. What do you guys suggest I do?
little swift
Consider figuring out how your skills work in pvp
They may not have the same cast times as they do in pve
Your rotation is different too
steep pelican
@little swift I'm aware of that, but it's more I'm actually unable to finish a spell or get to them
quasi thistle
if healer got less burden and more free cooldown, healer can just do some dps right ? so there is few downside ?
little swift
Slidecast as well
little swift
if healer got less burden and more free cooldown, healer can just do some dps ri...
Not necessarily
wispy parcel
is it okay if i the tank to pull less mobs to get higher safety margin and put l...
its fine in the early game, but its considered trolling to single pull past Heavensward
faint flare
If you're sure they're going to die then swap targets
steep pelican
@little swift slide cast? What's that?
faint flare
!faq slidecasting
zinc orbitBOT
wispy parcel
so you do have to learn to big pull eventually
little swift
You're slowing down a pace means you also have to use more resources to pull
steep pelican
Oooh. Didn't even know that had a name or was a mechanic. Thought it was a bug
open coral
if healer got less burden and more free cooldown, healer can just do some dps ri...
Again, it's going to depend a lot on the strength of the party as a whole. If the dps are burning enemies down and you're not taking a lot of damage because you're being efficient with your own cds, then pulling smaller just means that you're slowing down the run for no reason.
little swift
Stretching resources thin is not a good way to approach dungeon pulls
quasi thistle
i see some WHM who kinda... "brave" and use holy in the mid of the mob crowd , ended up got hit with 3 layer AoE , died instantly, wiping the entire party
little swift
Thats a player issue
open coral
That was the WHM's error then.
faint flare
^
little swift
Holy usage is expected
open coral
Not because you pulled wrong.
faint flare
White mages are meant to holy
open coral
^
faint flare
If there's aoes then they're expected to move out
wispy parcel
WHM's main thing for mobs is holy spam
faint flare
Or hope they're stunned prior and stop the aoes
wispy parcel
cause it stuns all mobs up to 3 times
wispy parcel
theres no better mitigation then making it so enemies cant attack
aside from killing them
faint flare
You literally give every tank hallowed ground every single pull
quasi thistle
Holy stun diminishing return is accumulated with other stun right ?
faint flare
Yes
open coral
Yes
faint flare
Always let the white mage stun
placid bane
how long does it take to queue for a frontline roulette at 2021
wispy parcel
also if ur a tank, dont neglect to se ur role actions. a lot of bad tanks dont use them despite how good they are
faint flare
Varies depending on the time
wispy parcel
depends on the time of day
faint flare
Faster during peak times
placid bane
aigoo
steep pelican
@placid bane 5-6 minutes when I did it a half hour ago
faint flare
Depends on data centre region
wispy parcel
Yea im pretty sure its still bed time in JP
quasi thistle
i kinda use rampart and reprisal a lot 
placid bane
feels bad
faint flare
You're meant to
wispy parcel
Use Arms Length too
faint flare
You're meant to be using ALL your defensive cooldowns during trash pulls
wispy parcel
it slows all enemies who hit you
faint flare
One at a time
Sometimes pairing weaker cooldown
And yes, it includes USING YOUR TANK INVULN
ITS NOT AN OH SHIT BUTTON
quasi thistle
is the defensive cooldown stack ?
open coral
Use your invuln, especially if you've just pulled a massive group of mobs.
quasi thistle
i kinda use it in turn when the others in cooldown
faint flare
As long as you have at least 1 defensive up you're fine
sage cape
it stacks!?
faint flare
Yes
wispy parcel
yea
little swift
Not well but they do
open coral
Yes, but with diminishing effect.
sage cape
ay caramba! thats great
wispy parcel
you shouldnt do it constantly
open coral
Using Rampart + Sheltron + Reprisal (for example) all at the same time on trash isn't generally recommended. Better to use them sequentially.
But you might need to do exactly that to survive a tank buster on a boss.
quasi thistle
and the panic button, i tend to avoid using it.... i die a lot because of that... as DRK
sage cape
alright, got it
faint flare
With living dead and Holmgang, tell the healer you're using it Im advanced
So they can plan around it
And heal it off when it proca
rigid wolf
The Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak any idea how this is unlocked?
open coral
MSQ
dire prawn
MSQ
rigid wolf
Know which quest?
scarlet arrow
don't remember the name but it's level 24
dire prawn
I forget the name but the quest is Lv 24
open coral
"Into the Beast's Maw"
sage cape
Know which quest?
Into the Beast's Maw
rigid wolf
Ok thank you
sage cape
you can check this https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Dungeons
it will tell you how to unlock X dungeon
open coral
For the majority of dungeons, the answer will be "just do the MSQ"
scarlet arrow
the first non-MSQ dungeon is Halatali at level 20, the next non-MSQ dungeon is the Sunken Temple of Qarn at level 35
opaque fiber
Is there a way to get notified of sales?
open coral
Like when the game goes on sale? They usually announce it on the Lodestone site.
opaque fiber
What's that?
open coral
opaque fiber
Is there no way to get a notification or something like that?
open coral
Not that I'm aware of.
opaque fiber
Dangit
quasi thistle
i wonder what is the upside of using PLD skill Holy Spirit ?... they cost a lot of MP, and the damage is so-so?
open coral
!action holy spirit
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open coral
Good question.
opaque fiber
Maybe it's has a combo
shrewd owl
!action requisescat
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quasi thistle
ah... spamable... ?
shrewd owl
Yeah you use holy spirit like 5 times before it wears off
quasi thistle
um... only on higher level tho ? right ?
shrewd owl
Ye
quasi thistle
on lower level it didn't have extra effect of no cast
shrewd owl
Oh yeah the instacast is like
76 or some shit
quasi thistle
so.. bellow 76 holy spirit is kinda... not that usefull ?
shrewd owl
Nah so basically
Flight or Fight phase with your normal physical combos
Then after FoF wears off you use requiescat and holy spirit
It's a cycle of shifting through a physical attack phase and magic attack phase
quasi thistle
with the cost, only enough for 2 cast
faint flare
You get 5 out
Per requesticat
4 + confedditor at 80
Even prior to the instant cast
quasi thistle
well, i am talking at low level
faint flare
Prior to requesticat its not super worth using except when you're away from the boss, essentially replacing shield lob
elfin edge
I've seen PLDs use it for doing the first pull on a boss heh
faint flare
Yeah basically
quasi thistle
pld... kinda have few ogcd skill compared to other tank...
late merlin
Hey! i finally unlocked my Machinist, super happy about it!
One question: i stay ranged as much as i can right cus i hear that it plays melee too or something
faint flare
You stack on the boss's ass unless mechanics say otherwise
So you can bait aoes cleanly
zinc orbitBOT
late merlin
Ow okay thank you!
it just helps that you have to possibility to do range i guess
but you play melee
signal shore
what pet actions should I be keybinding as a summoner?
rigid wolf
Wait
So i just did the managment quest to finally get my job
Its over now
Didnt get anything lol
faint flare
Go back to your trainer to pick up the quest
manic flare
that only unlocks the quest for your job quest
manic flare
the sylph management quest doesn't actually give you your job
rigid wolf
So to ossuary?
manic flare
what job are you @rigid wolf
rigid wolf
Na its a chocobo quest
little swift
its a prerequisite to do sylph management, but it doesn't hand you the job stone on completion
go back to the thaumaturges guild
faint flare
You need to do that too
quasi thistle
i guess PLD didn't use MP that much... expect on higher level....
rigid wolf
I did
little swift
if you've completed all your class quests
rigid wolf
Bro like days ago
manic flare
go back to ul'dah
little swift
and have finished that quest
rigid wolf
Yea
signal shore
Place, heel and sic
thank you
manic flare
go to ul'ah
quasi thistle
on lv 70, the PLD action that using MP is only Clemency and Holy Spirit....
manic flare
all you need to do is equip the crystal
rigid wolf
How do i get the soul cyrstal guys every time story changes
faint flare
on lv 70, the PLD action that using MP is only Clemency and Holy Spirit....
Their MP is only for Holy spirit/holy circle and Confedditor
little swift
we haven't changed our explanation
rigid wolf
Like first was lvl 30 then that quest now its what?
little swift
!faq job
zinc orbitBOT
little swift
this
manic flare
did you acquire the spell Manafont @rigid wolf ?
little swift
has not changed
manic flare
Manafont is spell you get for unlocking the black mage
rigid wolf
No
manic flare
if you have that spell, that means you've unlocked black mage
little swift
then you have not completed everything
rigid wolf
I dont
little swift
@rigid wolf refer to the faq and make sure you have met every single requirement
rigid wolf
Ok. So where do i do taking the black quest?
manic flare
can you screenshot your game @rigid wolf
rigid wolf
Ossuary?
dire prawn
If you don't have that spell then it's back to the Thaumaturge's Guild
manic flare
just screenshot your game
little swift
its at the thaumaturges guild
manic flare
and put it here
alot of us are just making assumptions on where you are in the game based on what you are telling us
rigid wolf
Im on ps4 take pic of what?
manic flare
it's just easier to post a screenshot
quasi thistle
on Emergency, Clemency can be used.... i guess ? the most worth is Confeiteor, and the other is not worth when used outside requiescat...
manic flare
of your game screen
rigid wolf
quasi thistle
even Confeiteor can't be used outside Requiescat
faint flare
on Emergency, Clemency can be used.... i guess ? the most worth is Confeiteor, a...
Clemency is for soloing or when your healer is literally afk.
wispy parcel
PLD is the best job for soloing old content
faint flare
Again. Paladin bounces between a physical phase with Fight or Flights and Magic phase with Requiescat
quasi thistle
or when the boss is almost died, and the healer is KO...
late merlin
whats that command for 1-70 lvling
dire prawn
My Little Chocobo (Maelstrom)
Imagine not doing your Chocobo quest
faint flare
Again when the healer is afk and completely incompetent
dire prawn
!faq levelingguide
zinc orbitBOT
wispy parcel
PLD is unique cause its burst DPS phase is ranged
little swift
whats that command for 1-70 lvling
!faq altlvlguide
zinc orbitBOT
dire prawn
oh
late merlin
Thank youu!
dire prawn
manic flare
@rigid wolf can you press J
shrewd owl
Theyre on ps4 lmao
little swift
he's on controller
dire prawn
<@!789420857880870924> can you press J
He's on PS4
manic flare
that's weird
shrewd owl
Well ur at ul'dah so
rigid wolf
Whats weird
shrewd owl
Check the thaumaturge guild
manic flare
i didnt know my little chocobo can show up as a class quest
shrewd owl
See if there is a new quest
faint flare
Because its a MANDATORY quest
faint flare
Also do thw chocobo quest like asap
rigid wolf
Man thats like hidden tho
shrewd owl
Ok yeah thats whre u get the job then
faint flare
It unlocks mounts
shrewd owl
Well normally it shows at the top left
rigid wolf
Ye im on track now
shrewd owl
But u got the chocobo quest overriding it
rigid wolf
I guess the chokobo thing hid it
faint flare
It did
rigid wolf
Interrupted
faint flare
It unlocks mounts
dire prawn
Because mount
quasi thistle
well, on lower level PLD is completely Physical....
faint flare
You literally cant use mounts without that quest
wispy parcel
Yea everything is limited at low level
quasi thistle
since even Requiscat is only unlocked at 68...
wispy parcel
Dark Knight doesnt even get its main ability till level 70
dire prawn
wispy parcel
until 70 Dark Knight is a nominally worse tank then the other 3
dire prawn
Aura is tank main 
open coral
Even without TBN
wispy parcel
TBN is so fucking good tho
dire prawn
What is TBN 🤔
wispy parcel
!action the blackest night
faint flare
!action The Blackest Night
zinc orbitBOT
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open coral
Just because it's good doesn't mean that without it DRK is worse than other tanks at lower levels.
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faint flare
Hopefully next expansion shuffles around skills to make levelling more enjoyable
quasi thistle
Until 58, PLD uses no MP
wispy parcel
Like PLD getting their gap closer around 30 like everyone else
open coral
Healers get gap closers when?
wispy parcel
instead of god damn 74
faint flare
Or drk aoe combo
open coral
WAR circular AoE
faint flare
Why its 72 when its literally got reworked god knows
little swift
Until 58, PLD uses no MP <:Kek:663379156805091340>
you really shouldn't be casting clemency regularly
open coral
If you're using Clemency regularly, I (the healer) will think you don't trust me.
And that makes me Sad.
You don't want a Sad healer.
faint flare
And wasting resources
open coral
We get mean.
wispy parcel
the only other tank that uses MP regularly at high levels is DRK
faint flare
And you're HP neutral/negative using it
quasi thistle
you really shouldn't be casting clemency regularly
when there is no skill that use MP, and there is Emergency, it will always be a choice
faint flare
You're not actually gaining health using clemency
dire prawn
We get mean.
I'm the healer not you
faint flare
Clemency is just a resource consumer with no gain
wispy parcel
it kills ur uptime
quasi thistle
like when i using Healer, and i KO at last moment when the boss is around 4%, the PLD saves the day
elfin edge
could you use it to proc your own divine veil (or whatever that was called)?
elfin edge
ah
faint flare
If they dont then they didn't need it
warped seal
You could. You could also tell the healer to do it and not waste resources like a brain damaged puppy.
open coral
^
wispy parcel
Indeed
dire prawn
brain damaged puppy
quasi thistle
do regen count ?
open coral
Generally speaking, assume your healer knows what they're doing unless they prove to you otherwise.
dire prawn
Generally speaking, assume your healer knows what they're doing unless they prov...
I has question
open coral
Just because your HP is low doesn't mean the healer is letting you die.
elfin edge
hrm I guess places where you'd actually need divine veil are places where the healer should know to use it
open coral
Yes dead, what would you like to know @dire prawn
faint flare
Usually in raid situations Veils placement is planned
dire prawn
Yes dead, what would you like to know <@!732318248837709945>
What's the proper use for Regen now that MSQ isn't level syncing me to where I can't use it anymore
quasi thistle
even the healer didn't know, they will most likely proc it without they knowing.... since they always healing tank
wispy parcel
theres a fine line between a really good healer and a really bad healer
open coral
What's the proper use for Regen now that MSQ isn't level syncing me to where I c...
For now, try to keep it on the tank as much as possible while in combat.
open coral
But do not pre-cast it while they're pulling.
dire prawn
For now, try to keep it on the tank as much as possible while in combat.
So refresh it on the tank like I do with Aero on enemies
dire prawn
But do not pre-cast it while they're pulling.
Wait why 🤔
elfin edge
the unpulled mob will aggro you
quasi thistle
pre-cast regen while pulling, the monster will target you...
open coral
If the tank has regen on, but doesn't have aggro on an enemy, the enemy will attack you instead.
wispy parcel
You can fuck up the aggro table
little swift
its fine to precast regen
if your tank isn't a monkey
tank stance makes it a joke to pull
elfin edge
it just basically means the tank has to be on top of the game in rounding up all the mobs
open coral
You're assuming a lot if you expect pug tanks to not be monkeys though.
little swift
and if for whatever reason it does aggro to you
you should have been sprinting with the tank
dire prawn
You're assuming a lot if you expect pug tanks to not be monkeys though.
What if you're my tank 
little swift
just bring it back to them
quasi thistle
well, sometimes there is a problem, since regen is 20 second, and there is still left over regen duration
open coral
Then you definitely shouldn't precast it, because I'm a monkey tank @dire prawn
wispy parcel
since regen is 20 seconds you shouldnt have to cast it more than once per pull
so it shouldnt ever be an issue
quasi thistle
when i cast regen, then the battle is over with 12 sec regen leftover, the tank is very active, and pull the next mob immediately while regen still active... duh...
open coral
If that's the case, you have a decent group and nothing to worry about.
dire prawn
Does Regen heal enough during normal pulls to not require me to use Cure II on the tank 🤔
wispy parcel
depends on the group of mobs
dire prawn
Well uhh
gentle gorge
Monkeys can tank
dire prawn
My next dungeon is Stone Vigil
wispy parcel
I've been on both sides of this spectrum
dire prawn
What kinds of mobs does that have
wispy parcel
Tank and Healer
open coral
Regen's gonna help you a lot in there.
Do you want me to come with you for SV @dire prawn ?
wispy parcel
Stone Vigil is pretty ez
dire prawn
I'm only on the WHM spectrum
wispy parcel
then again all dungeons are ez
dire prawn
Do you want me to come with you for SV <@!732318248837709945> ?
That question implies that you have a choice
open coral
I mean, I could simply not log in.
dire prawn
True
open coral
Then I'd have executed my power of choice, wouldn't I.
little swift
aura has other characters
open coral
You're assuming that I'd have to log in on a character that you could ask me to help you with.
😄
I could log in on my JP server character, then what would you do?
I'd be on a whole different datacenter.
And region.
dire prawn
JP alt
open coral
We're getting off topic here though.
quasi thistle
i wonder how many regen can stack ? as far as i know, i once found there is 2 Regen Stacks and 2 Medica II stack at same time, and the Tank is feels like on steroid with super Overheal
faint flare
Pretty much all regens stack
wispy parcel
Its why they are so ez
open coral
Although usually healers from other alliances are focusing on their parties.
obsidian patio
All of WHM’s HoTs stack as much as they want
open coral
Regens stack, shields do not.
obsidian patio
It actually used to be a cheese tactic in early 2.x PVP. Just be 8 white mages and keep up Medica 2 and Regen on everyone.
quasi thistle
if all 6 WHM give regen to single tank, i guess no active healing needed... just rely on HoT....
faint flare
A good number of shields stack, just not GCD shields
obsidian patio
It was extremely hard to kill someone who was regenerating basically their entire hp every 3 seconds
faint flare
Like noct helios/succor
dire prawn
Do you want me to come with you for SV <@!732318248837709945> ?
Why would I not want you to come with me for SV
open coral
¯_(ツ)_/¯
dire prawn
You said when you encounter it in MSQ it's another healer check dungeon
manic flare
It was extremely hard to kill someone who was regenerating basically their entir...
so 8 WHM for savage content?
dire prawn
And my weapon is still 10 levels below me ;-;
open coral
Yeah, that happens.
obsidian patio
Nah.
open coral
At least it's not level 18 though.
faint flare
so 8 WHM for savage content?
You lack mitigation for strong raid wides and busters
open coral
7 WHM and 1 tank for Savage. Let's make that happen.
faint flare
I remember a full Healer O1S
wispy parcel
I mean
manic flare
7 WHM and 1 tank for Savage. Let's make that happen.
make that tank be gunbreaker and cast aurora
faint flare
Or at least a no tank O1S
wispy parcel
u wouldnt pass the first DPS check
gleaming mist
o1s was unique in that it had no a very piss easy dps check
dire prawn
What is dps check 🤔
faint flare
Basically no check
gleaming mist
people did a 4man o1s later in the expac
wispy parcel
What is dps check 🤔
do as much damage as fast as possible or its a wipe
open coral
@dire prawn A dps check refers to a mechanic where you have to do a certain amount of damage within a set amount of time.
faint flare
Aka if you dont kill this thing in 30s, you automatically die
open coral
Usually failing a dps check means you're going to wipe.
manic flare
what's the earliest example of a dps check in this game?
open coral
Ifrit
manic flare
are there any in ARR and HW?
faint flare
Ifirit nails
dire prawn
WIth his Infernal Nail spawn
manic flare
oh yeh
faint flare
If you dont kill the nail you die
open coral
The Infernal Nail in Bowl of Embers is technically a dps check.
wispy parcel
the DPS checks that are actually worth a damn are all in savage
manic flare
what about one where u have to kill the boss
dense hound
A laughable one but a DPS check nonetheless.
manic flare
not the adds
quasi thistle
in the past, on Early HW update, Odin Fate is still very Crowded, and there is a LOT of DoT stack on it
faint flare
Hard enrages came in coils and extremes
dense hound
That's usually called Enrage.
obsidian patio
Extreme Garuda or Coil
open coral
@manic flare ||Ultima Weapon in Praetorium||
open coral
Yes. The second round.
After it teleports it starts casting Ultima.
If the cast goes off, it's a wipe.
open coral
^
wispy parcel
back when the game was new
faint flare
With trash/afk people
wispy parcel
a lot
open coral
It used to happen a lot as recently as Heavensward.
wispy parcel
Praetorium was actually hard once upon a time
obsidian patio
You don’t see it anymore with overgearing the fight
manic flare
what happened
open coral
But with power creep it's basically gone.
obsidian patio
Remember, Praetorium was balanced around i45-ish gear
manic flare
why don't they impose a item level sync for prae
dense hound
And most people (if they've DONE THEIR JOB QUESTS LIKE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO) have ilvl 90 or so.
faint flare
Well you kinda have to to even get the ilvl for the instance
leaden ginkgo
why don't they impose a item level sync for prae
Because most people in prae are just running it for roulettes and the unskippable story bits still take a long time
open coral
You can get it with the level 45 gear.
manic flare
when does ironwork gear become available
open coral
After you finish Praetorium
dire prawn
I want an ilvl that isn't sub-30 already 
open coral
You'll get there.
manic flare
I want an ilvl that isn't sub-30 already <:feelsbadman:693487764142030868>
where are you in the story
manic flare
hmm...stone vigil can be tough if you are undergeared i think
it's really the first dungeon that punishes you for not being adequately geared
open coral
Yes, but his gear is fine for SV
I've been helping him. He's got plenty.
The MSQ gives you baseline gear, and he also has some dungeon gear.
dire prawn
I need a new weapon though 
manic flare
u dont really need a great weapon as a healer
just as long as its not your starting weapon
open coral
Nah, you've got a level 32 or so weapon, right @dire prawn
twilit arch
the weapon is every jobs strongest piece of gear
dire prawn
It's Lv 32 yeah but I'm Lv 42
twilit arch
whether you're tank, healer or dps. having an as up to date as possible weapon is important
little swift
if you need another body for i'll be around just ping me somewhere
open coral
One of the other people we were hanging out with yesterday had a healer with a level 18 weapon in SV who insisted that they didn't need a better one because they're a healer.
They were doing like 500 HP heals.
open coral
So you absolutely do need a decent weapon, but honestly a level 32 weapon should be sufficient to handle SV
leaden ginkgo
Having good gear on the vigil is a good idea for healers because of the tanks that do big pulls without asking the healers in there and the mobs hit really hard in there
open coral
Could even get lucky and get the WHM weapon in the dungeon.
dire prawn
At least SV will let me use Regen and Cure III 
open coral
Worst case scenario I can always tank that one and keep pulls smallish.
Not my first choice, but I could do it.
dire prawn
If a WHM weapon drops in SV I'm greeding it
quasi thistle
healer can use dps if there is some leeway... if there is no leeway, if barely geared... healer won't have that luxury tho...
manic flare
If a WHM weapon drops in SV I'm greeding it
u mean needing it
open coral
@dire prawn If you do that, I'm disowning you.
leaden ginkgo
If a WHM weapon drops in SV I'm greeding it
You can need it
dire prawn
<@!732318248837709945> If you do that, I'm disowning you.
Why 
manic flare
you should be needing every gear that's an upgrade from your current one
leaden ginkgo
^
twilit arch
greeding puts you at risk of not getting the item
twilit arch
so you should be hitting need on any and all upgrades
leaden ginkgo
Need make you roll a 99 greed makes you roll a 1d99 essentially
dire prawn
I don't actually unless it's like this necklace I found that was better than my like Lv freaking 1 or 5 or whatever one with half its durability
open coral
Always. Need. On. Upgrades.
silver ruin
^
leaden ginkgo
Visit a mender and repair every so often
manic flare
whether you're tank, healer or dps. having an as up to date as possible weapon i...
so you are saying the tank weapon actually offers higher defense than the similar ilevel tank body armor?
leaden ginkgo
So to make sure I understand this will always give me the reward it shows with the 1900 flame seals?
dire prawn
Visit a mender and repair every so often
Where do I find one
leaden ginkgo
Always. Need. On. Upgrades.
Necklaces are always greed not need I think
open coral
They're not if they have your mainstat on them.
leaden ginkgo
Like if I do dungoens over and voer I mean
silver ruin
So to make sure I understand this will always give me the reward it shows with t...
if you're the class that it says for in need bonus, yes
leaden ginkgo
if you're the class that it says for in need bonus, yes
yup I'm a tank
obsidian patio
so you are saying the tank weapon actually offers higher defense than the simila...
Weapons give vitality as a stat
leaden ginkgo
Where do I find one
Any majorcity and most places with aetheryte typically by merchants
silver ruin
then yes as long as it says tanks are in need, sometimes it'll flip to healer
leaden ginkgo
then yes as long as it says tanks are in need, sometimes it'll flip to healer
sounds like after I complete the main story I need to go back and learn healing
dire prawn
Weathered Earring that I still haven't been able to replace
manic flare
Weapons give vitality as a stat
right i know that. but if you were a tank, would you buy the body armor first, or the weapon first
open coral
@dire prawn Look for an "Independent Mender" or "Merchant & Mender"
leaden ginkgo
doing some more side questing for now as I need to build up stats
manic flare
if you want to prioritize defense
obsidian patio
Armor
leaden ginkgo
Cause one of my items is at like
You can also find them in Inns by The Smith
obsidian patio
But again, it depends on what slots of gear are behind the furthest
oak ice
But you should prioritize damage
twilit arch
assuming all slots are equal, weapon should always be your first priority
open coral
Accessories tend to lag behind in general.
twilit arch
it is the biggest boost to your dmg
open coral
But they're also lower priority.
twilit arch
which, even as a tank, is important
open coral
Priority should be weapon > armor > accessories.
leaden ginkgo
These are my current stats
having trouble around mobs still
I spent 40+ minutes in hawk manor yesterday with two dps that wouldnt read there skills and had starting gear
leaden ginkgo
These are my current stats
Are you using rampart and such?
dire prawn
I spent 40+ minutes in hawk manor yesterday with two dps that wouldnt read there...
That sounds like pain
dire prawn
I did Haukke Manor yesterday with Aura for my leveling roulette
leaden ginkgo
I'm using my AOE and Defense skills
What do you mean specifically by trouble with mobs?
This quest right now has a bunch of level 43 small creatures mobbing up
spriggans
little swift
do your job quest i see it in your side bar @leaden ginkgo
little swift
you can literally get 4 pieces of gear right now
open coral
Yeah, definitely do that.
little swift
that is decent
leaden ginkgo
so I can get another skill
leaden ginkgo
you can literally get 4 pieces of gear right now
from the job quest?
little swift
yes
open coral
head/arms/legs/feet
little swift
look at the objective "obtain 4 piecse of the gallant armor"
open coral
The best you'll have access to until your level 50 job quest.
little swift
no chest
leaden ginkgo
yup doing those too
With that quest you want to try to very carefully only engage gigiry and as few mobs as possible and run away after you kill gigitty
open coral
@leaden ginkgo For that MSQ though, just pull and kill each of the mobs in the area one at a time.
Clear the area, then summon Giggity.
faint flare
Also summon your chocobo
open coral
Yes
faint flare
To heal you
open coral
Also summon your choco
leaden ginkgo
If you NEED fo you can summon chocobo
little swift
no reason why you shouldn't if you can
dire prawn
Does that mean I'm also coming up on that MSQ after SV 
little swift
leveling your chocobo is good
open coral
There's no reason why you shouldn't use your choco
leaden ginkgo
no reason why you shouldn't if you can
Because I hate pet mechanics
open coral
It's a little ways after, but yes @dire prawn
dire prawn
No Sarg queue time 
little swift
ok thats your prerogative that doesn't its not good advice to do so
its barely even pet mechanics
open coral
"Pet mechanics"
little swift
set it on free stance and let it do whatever
open coral
You literally just summon it and let it do its thing.
leaden ginkgo
When did I say “dont summon your choco”?
little swift
its still way more beneficial than do nothing
open coral
You don't have to control it
dire prawn
What if my Chocobro doesn't have shit for skills because I don't have the green things to summon it so it can level
leaden ginkgo
I didn’t so don’t strawman me pls and thank you
open coral
Go to Bentbranch and buy some @dire prawn
little swift
If you NEED fo you can summon chocobo
you're suggesting here that its if you need to. i'm saying there's no harm in always just doing it. thats not the same thing
open coral
And repair your gear while you're there.
scarlet arrow
gysahl greens can be bought at several locations, notably Bentbranch Meadows
little swift
no one is strawmanning you
i'm just saying that you hating pet mechanics is irrelevant to the conversation
its in general good advice to just have your chocobo out for overworld stuff
dire prawn
Bentbranch Meadows is the same spot with the actual Chocobo trainer that lets you summon your bird into battles right
scarlet arrow
yes
open coral
Yes
leaden ginkgo
you're suggesting here that its if you need to. i'm saying there's no harm in al...
Actually no, I was simply saying its a suggestion I am offering if they find that they need to.
You assumed bad faith it seems like
wispy parcel
ur companion chocobo doesnt have any pet mechanics other then level it up
little swift
my apologies then clearly i read the intent of your message wrong
with the capitalized need
zinc orbitBOT
open coral
I agree, by emphasizing "need", you seemed to be implying that it was only if they needed, not something to do as a regular occurrence.
little swift
your response with i hate pet mechanics implied blatant refusal to utilize it
quasi thistle
i just found a perfect moment to use clemency got a party of dps that dying a lot because didn't avoid AoE, the healer is very busy, and already use swiftcast on first raise
leaden ginkgo
your response with i hate pet mechanics implied blatant refusal to utilize it
Really? Weird I would suggest it then?
quasi thistle
while casting the 2nd raise, the other dps started dying again, i use clemency on him
open coral
Yes, that's a valid use of Clemency @quasi thistle
faint flare
So people are bad yes
little swift
implied your refusal doesn't mean that its not advice you can give
cold steppe
Edenmete gear from tokens you cant upgrade in any way right?
leaden ginkgo
implied your refusal doesn't mean that its not advice you can give
Weird that I have used it then?
little swift
no one is saying you haven't used it
faint flare
Edenmete gear from tokens you cant upgrade in any way right?
Yes
cold steppe
gochu so it's basically alrenrative 510 gear
faint flare
If you wanna optimizate substats at that ilvl
little swift
i'm saying that the way you worded it seemed like you don't want to use it
faint flare
Or avoid paying gil
little swift
if you really wanted to be pragmatic about it
cold steppe
i'll probably use it for a flex class
so i can potentially do stuff not just as a healer
faint flare
It is basically alt gear after a few weeks
cold steppe
does any class use cryptlurker weapon as BIS or is it always not-bis because the e12s weapon is 535 instead?
silver ruin
uhhh i think the majority of classes use eden savage cause of the substats, last tier some used the upgraded tome weapon cause of substats, but raid weapon is just better all around this tier
gleaming mist
blm can use the augmented cryptlurker weapon for their high sps bis
cold steppe
I see, otherway it seems to be placeholder weapon huh 
gleaming mist
mhm
fierce crypt
ngl guys, I just started playing like for third time and now I really want to play it... But i feel that the game looks quite ugly and dunno exactly why. Been looking into mods but no clue
cold steppe
shame, kinda hoped it'd be best for at least 1 class im intrested in but i guess not this time, tho i suppose it's still strictly better than emerald weapon if i'd actually get that before trying savages in any shape and form
silver ruin
shame, kinda hoped it'd be best for at least 1 class im intrested in but i guess...
only if its upgraded
depending on theclass emerald is still superior to 520 depending on substats
faint flare
ngl guys, I just started playing like for third time and now I really want to pl...
Gshade/ReShade are the popular/go to shaders
cold steppe
I see I assume healers is one of the cases where emerald would be better
silver ruin
yes
fierce crypt
was trying to download reshade, but the addon software is not working. The website is down :c
cold steppe
yeah i assumed so
little swift
cause 520 weapon has piety as a dead substat
it isn't that piety is a dead substat
obsidian patio
Yeah the Emerald weapons as a whole have spicy secondary stats, all of them are crit/det or crit/DH
little swift
its more that if you don't need the mp regen its less useful
and this tier
has a lot of outgoing damage
where you might consider more piety as a result
so you don't eat ass
silver ruin
it does, but if you're in full exarchic with exarchic weapon or tome 520 weapon
you're sitting at 2k piety
cold steppe
depends on team i feel, if barely anyone makes mistakes you probably wont run into MP problems, at least on AST between lucid dreams and card draws
silver ruin
idk, even in party finder up to 12 savage phase 1 enrage i wasnt running more than 1200 on any healer
cold steppe
Im on ast without ring/braclet/earring/weapon from crafted and im at 1.6k piety without any meld for it
silver ruin
yea the crafted sets give a LOT of piety
cold steppe
i can agree tho a bit more piety can be nice, especially for prog, but i feel not THAT much. lol
cold steppe
i try my best
little swift
know exactly what will be comfortable
silver ruin
^
cold steppe
thats true but yeah i actually dont mind more piety for now with my kinda-regular group as there's alot of mistakes going on
so sometimes more mana is really needed lol
silver ruin
honestly it really depends, if theres too many mistakes you wont meet the dps check so at that point it might be kind of a bust
cold steppe
that as well
but in the end as channy said
as i'll slowly crawl my way to bis
i'll loose some of the piety anyway
silver ruin
ye
cold steppe
im honestly happy if i do between 8-9k dps as AST on emerald at this point lol
little swift
nope
paladin stays paladin
but you do get that chestpiece
and inside the coffer
is an exact replica (appearance wise) of what you just got
but stronger
leaden ginkgo
paladin stays paladin
So there are no more job skills
Or do I have to start a new job with different skills?
strange coral
Yes, there are
strange coral
All the way to 80 you'll keep earning more, some from job quests, some from just leveling up
strange coral
Where do I trade bozjan coins?
Resistance Supplier at Southern Front
little swift
So there are no more job skills
you'll get more job quests with more skills once you reach the next expansion, heavensward
leaden ginkgo
Ty oh and does that mean eqch class will receive 85 and 90 lvl skills?
Or just one with new expansion
dire prawn
Is The Heretic Among Us MSQ about to send me into a dungeon
leaden ginkgo
If so, cant wait to see whm new skills :o
dire prawn
Because there's a dungeon marker by the MSQ marker but it doesn't have a name when I hover over the icon
strange coral
Is The Heretic Among Us MSQ about to send me into a dungeon
The next quest does
strange coral
Yup
leaden ginkgo
you'll get more job quests with more skills once you reach the next expansion, h...
As a paladin?
little swift
as every job
the job quest chains are separated by expansion
so you have 1-30 on the base classes
30-50 for those jobs
50-60
and 60-70
leaden ginkgo
Does damage eventually get way higher?
warped nest
Why won't it?
leaden ginkgo
So I understand that the expansions add more jobs, what types might I enjoy later on?
cold steppe
should i feel bad that because i dont feel confidant at playing dps class i kinda want to try out dancer first and foremost? :X
little swift
no don't feel bad
leaden ginkgo
Currently a paladin
little swift
everyone starts somewhere
leaden ginkgo
Where do I get ultima token, I see thqt ai only need 1 for I thibk ultima weapon theyre beautiful T.T
little swift
what kinds of jobs do you like
cold steppe
i mean the class being easy aside, i just really like dancer design lol
little swift
you get it from completing the weapon's refrain: ultimate
cold steppe
and given i really like supportive classes, among dps dancer probably fits my tastes the most because of that
tho Dragoon also have teamwide utility
leaden ginkgo
Is that extreme trial of praetorim boss
leaden ginkgo
Aww man
little swift
not something you can just pop in and out of in like 10 minutes
leaden ginkgo
Looks like I wont be getting those anytime soon, I dont do hard content but all weapons are locked behind them Dx
little swift
yes a lot of the nice glowy ones are locked behind ultimate
leaden ginkgo
Hmm its either git gud
little swift
but there are nice glowy ones that are crafted, and relic weapons are accessible too
little swift
and given i really like supportive classes, among dps dancer probably fits my ta...
most dps have some sort of supportive capability, besides machinist/samurai/black mage
leaden ginkgo
How painful is zenith weapon quest for whm? Xd
little swift
which do have role specific defensive actions
zenith is quick to do
finishing the whole thing is what takes a bit longer
leaden ginkgo
I got to first step where I have to craft staff for whm, but i dont have alchemist lvl 50 :(
obsidian patio
You can buy off the marketboard
leaden ginkgo
And cant buy it on mb
obsidian patio
F
leaden ginkgo
I dont think so, I tried to search
slate arrow
you should be able to
FFXIV is picky about searches
so if it doesn't match it wont show up
little swift
!market chaos madman's whispering rod
leaden ginkgo
Hmm I tried adding like first three or four letters
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31,500 
x1 [Ragnarok]
15,750 x1 [Louisoix]
16,937 x1 [Omega]
19,424 x1 [Louisoix]
19,949 x1 [Ragnarok]
19,950 x1 [Ragnarok]
20,087 x1 [Ragnarok]
21,000 x1 [Ragnarok]
21,000 x1 [Omega]
21,164 x1 [Louisoix]
31,500
15,750 
16,937
19,424
19,949
19,950
20,087
21,000
21,000
21,164
leaden ginkgo
Oh wow
leaden ginkgo
I swear I tried to seqrch it multiple times
little swift
and make sure you have partial match checked off
leaden ginkgo
Ah alright Ill chexk then and start my relic weapon for whm rn :I