questions-and-help

[forest sage]

but could be wrong haven't crafted for xp in forever

[oak ice]

I know quality does, but I have never heard anything about the amount of steps

[terse heath]

People mention fates as a decent way to get xp. Does it matter which ones (since they are synced)? Or should you find some at your level?

[oak ice]

The higher up you go, the more exp they give

So go for your level

[terse heath]

ok, thanks

[oak ice]

Especially in Stormblood and up since those can have EXP bonuses on them

[cold steppe]

so quality only, gochu

[forest sage]

I wouldn't do fates for xp unless you're waiting on queues popups or you want the loot(ShB fates currency)

[terse heath]

Hm, solo play. What would you recommend if I'm just trying to get some xp in but can't commit to a group because I'm expecting a phonecall or something?

[forest sage]

oh yeah in this case that's fine

[oak ice]

Which level?

[forest sage]

I just meant you shouldn't do FATEs over a better option(which are grp based)

[terse heath]

50

[forest sage]

squadrons maybe but need to unlock them which takes a while

[oak ice]

You can use squadrons to 60, but after that there's the whole until 71 with Bozja or trusts

[terse heath]

I just unlocked them yesterday actually. They're on their second mission now so should be able to use them soon.

[forest sage]

if you have access to HW, daily hunt marks for centurio/xp are HW beast tribes are nice enough xp too

[oak ice]

And MSQ is the biggest EXP/hour if you still have that to do

[terse heath]

Ok, just barely finished the vanilla MSQ. So hopefully I get to those quickly.

[forest sage]

well yeah doing MSQ would definitely be good since you have to do them regardless

thought you meant on a different class

[terse heath]

I'm doing it weird because I'm also playing with my wife in the evenings and we do MSQ together. So that's kind of out too. This is for a second job while I wait.

[gritty oracle]

What's the most convenient way to farm ishgard scrips? Gathering massive amounts of materials for a single lv80 recipe, then sitting down with a macro? Would that work?

[open ember]

I find lv80 recipes to efficient

[faint flare]

Yes

[open ember]

Don't do expert unless you're ranking. It'll take too long to farm scrips

[oak ice]

Do the not expert ones to start and then just macro something easy

[gritty oracle]

I wouldn't do expert because I would have to craft them by hand. With non expert, I can just press the macro and alt tab out until I hear the "craft finished" chime

[zinc orbit]

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[void vigil]

Hey there, curious if someone can explain what the PvE endgame for FFXIV consists of upon getting to max level. I am not interested in things like RP, Crafting, Player housing, or leveling a bunch of alts - I am more curious as to what challenging and fun PvE content I could look forward to once i hit max. Thanks!!

[open ember]

Raiding

Like Savage and Ultimate

[void vigil]

how does the raiding work? how many players? how many raids are relevant at a given time and what is the difference between the modes?

[open ember]

8 players

[void vigil]

would i essentially end up raid-logging if im not interested in the other RP and crafting type stuff?

[forest sage]

8man raids, one tier is relevant at a time, which has 4 floors(last floor often has 2 fights in savage), ultimate is also 8man, even harder content, only for title+cool weapons

[open ember]

Ultimate is significantly harder than Savage but savage is currently the hardest mode for most of the playerbase in terms of raiding

[forest sage]

old ultimates are relevant for the rare titles/weapons too

[open ember]

Ultimate is incredibly difficult in terms of practice and learning them

[forest sage]

they are foced synced so you can't cheese them(too much) but doing them later

[open ember]

You need an organized static for it

[forest sage]

I guess you could add solo potd/hoh for pve stuff, entirely different skillset/requirements though

and I guess BLU raiding for older content with a different take

morbol mount and such

[void vigil]

got it - so theres a normal raid, a savage raid, and ultimate raid difficulty?

[forest sage]

yeah but ultimates aren't the same raids

they're unique fights

[void vigil]

Not just hard modes of bosses?

[faint flare]

There's extremes for an inbetween

[forest sage]

they do combine elements from various raid tiers of a given expansion

for example ultimate coil combines all 3 final bosses of each tier of coil(the original game's raid)

but it's an entirely unique fight, much harder than any of the 3 fights they combine

[void vigil]

I guess my ultimate question then is - if i am pretty much only interested in the raiding part of the game is this game worth it or should i play a different mmo

[forest sage]

a lot of people only do raiding on this, it's pretty good for it imo

like all mmos though content isn't updated constantly so you might unsub every now and then and play something else, new raid tiers are usually added every 6months

and ultimates are mixed in

[faint flare]

Well raid logging and capping weekly currency

[void vigil]

Are there tedious daily chores you have to do like in retail WoW?

[forest sage]

I think only wow really competes with XIV for endgame raiding though, maybe TESO, not entirely sure how that one goes

[faint flare]

Capping weekly currency

Is the main one

[forest sage]

well that takes like an hour if you do a hunt train

[faint flare]

Weekly normal mode loot for alts/helping gear up as well

[forest sage]

there's way less stuff to do for raiding compared to wow, don't have to run lower dungeons for weekly boxes, don't have to do pvp, don't have to farm reps

it's mostly just getting money for food/potions and running your weekly raid stuff then capping your tomes(which can be done very quickly or can be done over several days, it's really easy to do though)

[void vigil]

gotcha so that pretty much sums up the endgame pve then

ok

hmm

[forest sage]

like there's a lot of side stuff to do, it just doesn't impact raiding

[void vigil]

yeah feels like a lot of this games appeal comes from the social and RP elements tbh which im not too sure id get a lot of value from haha

or more so im not too interested in that

[faint flare]

Story is the main draw

[void vigil]

ah ok i see

[forest sage]

well for a lot of people

[void vigil]

controversial maybe but i dont care about story in games lol

[forest sage]

but if you check streams you'll see people who just playing to raid

they skip the story, roll multiple accounts so they have more weekly lockouts

and just spend their evenings raiding

doing pub runs and stuff

multiple chars* not accounts necessarily

you can also try looking at a random clear video of current content or a guide to see if you'd think the type of mechanics the game has would fit your playstyle, since the game plays pretty differently than wow

fights are a lot more scripted for example

oh worth noting if you want to raid but don't want to do the story, you're gonna have to buy a skip for that(and possibly a skip to level your char if you want that, they're separate skips in this), the story is mandatory, and takes A LONG time

[little swift]

even if you buy a skip

it only skips you to the start of the latest expansion

so you still have to play that main story line

[forest sage]

yeah still have to do some

but at that point it's more similar to say wow leveling

than if you do the entire MSQ

[hollow axle]

What are the main differences between the free trial and the subscribed version? Like what major functions do you unlock?

[obsidian patio]

!faq freetrial

[zinc orbit]

Free Trial Limitations

Limitation details
Download

[undone matrix]

Is it possible to party up with someone in another data center?

[obsidian patio]

Nope

Datacenters are completely isolated from each other

[undone matrix]

well rip that

[slate arrow]

Hopefully that will change but as of right now what wynne said

[hollow axle]

to the people who are subscribed to the game. Do you think it's worth it?

[open coral]

Yes

[sour ruin]

yes

[terse heath]

I just got it this month and already bought/subscribed. Don't even have a lv 60 yet. It took me a little bit to get into it because it's pretty different than I'm used to (WoW), but now I am loving it.

[dire prawn]

Meanwhile I just got WoW literally yesterday

[open coral]

I'm sorry.

[terse heath]

Well, I haven't played WoW in like 2 years, so it's probably changed a ton too.

[dire prawn]

I'm also sorry

But Square Enix is being a big ol' bitch and won't let me create an account for FFXIV

[open coral]

I quit WoW about a month ago. FFXIV is my only MMO now.

I regret nothing.

[hollow axle]

I've never played a mmo really and I like this one a lot, but i'm kind of hesitant. I might just play everything the free trial has to offer then subscribe.

[dire prawn]

That's my plan

[terse heath]

what happens when you try? I don't recall having many issues.

[dire prawn]

If SE ever lets me make an account

[open coral]

FFXIV is kind of unique from an MMO standpoint, being more story-driven than most.

[dire prawn]

I get Error Code: i2501

[obsidian patio]

Not counting RuneScape, this was my first MMO and I definitely enjoy it

[dire prawn]

Googling it says that it's a payment failure error code

[open coral]

A lot of people will play as far as the free trial lets them, then upgrade.

[dire prawn]

Googling it with regards to account creation gives you a few different results

[open coral]

2501 is a catchall error code "there's something wrong, but we don't know exactly what"

[dire prawn]

The only one of which I haven't tried is attempting to create my account while I have an active vpn

[terse heath]

oh, we had that on my wife's account. seriously, use Edge

[dire prawn]

I did use Edge and I got the same error

[terse heath]

cleared cache and all that? try from your phone or a tablet. that was a common solution as well

[open coral]

This will seem like a weird question, but... is Internet Explorer up to date?

[dire prawn]

Everything on my laptop is up to date

The only thing it might've been is I didn't have the newest cumulative update for Windows when I tried last night

Which I ended up doing before I went to bed

[left cedar]

I can't use my level 60 dragoon gear coffer cuz it says I already own it..

But that's impossible cuz I just got it lol

Any idea what's going on?

[forest sage]

if you own any of the parts you can't open it

[terse heath]

I'd try from different devices and browsers. It's what worked for me. Different comp, but firefox still failed. then edge worked. have access to a few?

[dire prawn]

Firefox is the only browser I haven't tried on because I don't have it downloaded

I tried Chrome Edge and IE and all three browsers gave me the same error

[leaden ginkgo]

How do you get materia?

[forest sage]

oh also you need enough space and to be in town to open coffers

materias can be obtained once you spiritbind gear(use it for a while the bar goe sup with kills, once it's full you can Extract Materias), market, drops in dungeons in higher levels and other various ways

[leaden ginkgo]

Do I need to progress the story to unlock materia?

[forest sage]

you do need to progress to a certain point though

lvl 19ish MSQ iirc?

[leaden ginkgo]

Oh okay

I just did the 2nd dungeon

[forest sage]

oh yeah then wait a bit

[leaden ginkgo]

But I'm level 30

[faint flare]

!faq melding

[zinc orbit]

Materia & Melding FAQ

How do I unlock melding?

Complete Forging the Spirit (materia extract/npc melding) and Waking the Spirit (player melding) in Central Thanalan.

How can I get my gear melded?

To meld visible Materia slots a NPC melder in any major city will do (marked with a Blue Materia icon on the map). To overmeld gear you'll need to request another player to meld your gear or to do it yourself.

Why can't I meld this Materia to my stuff?

Every Tier of Materia has a minimum item level requirement that gear must meet to allow melding of that Tier. Tier 6 Materia requires an item level of 290 while Tiers 7 and 8 require an item level of 420.

Why is my meld giving +0 stats?

Every item has a maximum amount of stats that can be given through melding and the natural stats found on the gear. This can be seen at the bottom of the Materia Melding menu, as seen in the picture below.

The secondary stat with a higher number is already at the cap and cannot be further melded.

[faint flare]

See here

At least the top

[leaden ginkgo]

Yeah thing is I'm doing the materia melding job but I don't have any materia to meld

[faint flare]

Materia is a endgame thing

Just get some ofd market board

[leaden ginkgo]

I haven't unlocked it yet

[faint flare]

Or extract from fullly spiritbonded gear

[leaden ginkgo]

Nobody sells materia

[obsidian patio]

NPCs don’t sell them for Gil

[terse heath]

ugh, that's what spiritbonded gear is for? is that why it warned me when i was vendoring 100% spiritbonded gear?

[faint flare]

Yes

You get materia from extraction

[terse heath]

does buyback survive multiple logins?

[obsidian patio]

Nope

[left cedar]

I don't have any of the items in the coffer, and I'm in a ward and it still doesn't let me open it

And I have enough space

It's the dragoon level 60 gear. I only just finished the job quest so I can't have any of the pieces.

[obsidian patio]

What pieces does it say you already have? There should be an error message that states it

[left cedar]

"Unable to use the dragonlancer's armor coffer. You cannot carry more than one unique item of the same type."

That's all it says

[obsidian patio]

Do you have a Fabled Belt of Maiming?

[left cedar]

I don't think so. Unless it's in a retainer. Is there an easy way to check?

I know there's a way to item search

[obsidian patio]

/isearch fabled

[left cedar]

Ahh okay, hang on

[obsidian patio]

Then right click the item name to search for item

[open rivet]

Unless it's in a retainer.
retainer are a seperate inventory, so you you can put uniques there and still have one in your inventory

it has to be in your armoury chest or inventory

[left cedar]

No matches found containing “fabled.”

[obsidian patio]

You might’ve also gotten an armor piece from ventures so try searching for the dragonlancer stuff too

[hollow axle]

Maybe a dumb question, but how would I purchase a subscription? Do I buy the complete edition and that starts the sub or do I buy the sub separately
?

[open rivet]

you subscribe seperately

[obsidian patio]

It might also be “Brionac” the weapon

[vernal urchin]

the complete edition would come with a free month, but you'd need to set up the subscription in the mogstation to keep playing after that

[left cedar]

Hmm

[hollow axle]

Could I get a link to where I would buy the sub?

[obsidian patio]

!faq mogstation

[zinc orbit]

FFXIV Mog Station

FFXIV Mog Station link

[forest sage]

you can buy timecards in various places, or you can set up the sub on the mogstation where you make your account(you can pay in a few different ways, but not everything)

[left cedar]

That was it. I had probably gotten the dragonlancer pants through a retainer

Thanks for helping me figure that out

[obsidian patio]

\o/

[hollow axle]

When going through the payment process I am only given two options. To buy the starter edition or complete edition.

[forest sage]

you have to buy the game first regardless, can't buy a sub for the game without owning it

when you buy the game and register it, you'll get 30days of "free" sub, then at the end you'll have to pay the sub price to continue

[hollow axle]

Ok. that makes sense lmao

Thanks

[cold steppe]

is there a way to get this new casual set by other way than kupo vouchers?

[void vigil]

so did anyone here come from WoW raiding into FFXIV raiding and like it better?

[obsidian patio]

Besides market board, no

[cold steppe]

i'll assume it's super expensive there anyway so ugh :C

[forest sage]

it's like 1.5m or so on my server?

which is fairly in line with new glamour stuff

[cold steppe]

yeah quite expensive then, for me at least

[forest sage]

just need to wait until it drops in price

[cold steppe]

shame cuz i really like the top lol

Im lvling my crafters so MAYBE it'll drop me while i put everyone in line in lvl, but very unlikely

[forest sage]

or it becomes available for scrips or whatever maybe later(but that probably wouldn't be into late 5.5x I'd think)

[cold steppe]

Yeah casual jacket on my server is 1.35m right now

shorts are 12k tho lmao

[dire prawn]

That is

A huge difference

[forest sage]

cause they're very boring and you can get similar ones in other stuff

[cold steppe]

true

[open rivet]

also check box itself, because jacket & box price seem to be almost same atm

[cold steppe]

yeah i was about to say

box itself is cheaper

than top itself

[forest sage]

kinda depends but yeah

[cold steppe]

at least right now

1.2m almost, when top is 1.3m+ lol

[forest sage]

you can also check other servers on your datacenter

but you probably won't find under 1m

[cold steppe]

yeah

[forest sage]

it's popular and doesn't drop too much

[cold steppe]

i'll probably wait then for this piece of glamour

[warm snow]

Casual coffer?

I've gotten 6 so far

[forest sage]

out of how many coupons

[warm snow]

No idea but I have hundreds of turn ins

[cold steppe]

nice, im just starting my adventure with crafting so we'll see how it'll go for me, so far i havent even hit a single best rewards, but i havent done many cupons yet either to be fair.

[forest sage]

cause if you're doing rank 12 crafting I assume you'd just have hundreds of pulls

yeah that's the thing

[warm snow]

I just wanted to get all the skyward stuff, I'm not top 12

[cold steppe]

where can i see my desynth lvl on each of the class?

[forest sage]

on the char sheet, under crafting

err under doh/dol

in classes

[cold steppe]

ah ues

i see now, when you hover

[forest sage]

yeah and there's a little bar too

[cold steppe]

godbless finally getting golsmith to 30, i was literally drowning in rings i dont use which i also couldnt turn to GC :X

anyway thanks, i guess i'll just hope it'll drop for me since 1.2m for one piece of glamour is too much for me, given how long i play

[forest sage]

I mean the prices will drop eventually too

[warm snow]

It's not going away after this firmament season

[forest sage]

and you can make money in a bunch of ways to afford it lategame, treasure maps, skybuilder scrips, normal yellow scrips, allegory materials, treasure maps daillies and so on

oh there's treasure maps twice, I meant running them, and gathering them once a day, although if you run them you wouldn't sell the ones you gather

[cold steppe]

im aware but i guess it's not that important either anyway

i can survive without my precious jacket for now, not like i dont like my current glam, it just could be better. lol

[fierce cobalt]

What's the ballpark figures for grinding a skysteel tool? Im mainly getting them based on the promise on shiny but just having ballpark figures to gauge how many to go for

[little swift]

80k gil for the subsequent tools you do

And then about 5k yellow scrips atm

If you hand gather all the materials yourself as well

And just to clarify this is 80k per tool

So about 800k

Total

And 5k scrip per tool

I'm overestimating the scrip count a bit because of possible accidents/failures

[fierce cobalt]

Right, anyone have a estimate on the hours required?

[placid raptor]

hey guys quick question. i heard there is like 7 horses you can get as mounts and then when u show this one npc that u have all 7 mounts he will give u this black golden dragon looking horse mount

what npc gives u the horse quests

[open coral]

There's only a quest for the Kirin (the gold one)

[polar hound]

there isn't one for the horses. just quests to unlock the trials to get the horses.

[open coral]

The rest are rare-ish drops from the ARR Extreme primal fights.

[placid raptor]

wait whats the name of the quest that gives the trials for the other horses and then how to i unlock arr extreme primal fights

[open coral]

You'll need to unlock the (Hard) versions first, and the quests for those start with Urianger in the Waking Sands.

Although you'll have needed to do those for the MSQ

[faint flare]

The OG 3 are in the waking sands, ramuh is in gridina...levi is...limsa i think and shiva is somewhere

[placid raptor]

oh this npc is inside the waking sands

[polar hound]

yes

[open coral]

Shiva is in the Waking Sands

[placid raptor]

i went to 2 npcs with blue marks outside of waking sands

[open coral]

Because reasons

[polar hound]

ah, no..inside lol

[placid raptor]

so talk to urianger he will have the quest to unlock the trials

[open coral]

Yes

[placid raptor]

now do i just need to do the trials the first time to unlock hard and then again for extreme?

[open coral]

You'll need to do them sequentially on (Hard) mode to unlock those, then you'll be able to pick up the quests for the (Extreme) versions.

[frozen girder]

I should not do this for EXP right?

It's not gonna be like roulettes where the exp scales with level

[placid raptor]

sorry for asking but what do u mean by sequentially? (my vocab is somewhat small)

[frozen girder]

1 after the other

[placid raptor]

uh... oh lord thats gonna be difficult

[open coral]

You won't get the next quest until you've completed the previous one

[polar hound]

it's not. unsyncing is perfectly fine and most likely what will happen

[faint flare]

Its easy soloed unsync with 80s

[open coral]

The Extreme ones don't have to be done in order though.

[placid raptor]

im level 50 scholar with 3k health im gonna die

[frozen girder]

I disagree ._. I'm still stuck on Ifrit as a Samurai

[open coral]

Just Ifrit, Garuda, and Titan.

[polar hound]

that would be your own fault, probably

[open coral]

Oh, if you're only level 50, you might want to wait.

[polar hound]

throw up a party finder, say you have bonus and unsync, one 80 and you're golden.

[faint flare]

They need to do the hard modes anyway

For story

[open coral]

Yes

That's true too.

Hard mode versions can be done through the usual Duty Finder.

[placid raptor]

i cant become level 80 sadly

im using trial

[open coral]

Extremes, well, you'll be waiting a long time, if you can get a group at all.

[frozen girder]

Invite a level 80

Or rather have a level 80 invite you

[open coral]

Ask around for a level 80 to carry you

[placid raptor]

ik a few

[polar hound]

also @frozen girder you're correct. after you out-level some stuff like that quest.. the exp will default down to 10k to make a point that you've outleveled it.. least i saw this as true when i out-leveled certain beast tribes etc.

[frozen girder]

Cries

Guess the Ixals are useless now

XD

[open coral]

Just do them on a different job

[frozen girder]

I can't ._.

[open coral]

Oh

Well

[polar hound]

eh, they served their purpose

[frozen girder]

I never did a single Ixal quest

._.

[open coral]

Just finish their story and move on

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[polar hound]

they made it stupid easy to level crafters 20+ so..not shocked.

[void vigil]

what does endgame gear itemization look like? Is it like retail WoW where its all just Main Stat + Health + 2 Secondary Stats?

[marble drift]

yep

[void vigil]

damn that is whack

[open coral]

No

It's four secondary stats

Not two

[faint flare]

Well gear has 2 secondaries

Out of 4

Ontop of health and main stat

Then you can meld/gem in extra

[polar hound]

there are some very few sets with 'set bonuses' but they aren't nearly endgame or impactful beyond like..some extra exp or smth

[void vigil]

that is sad to hear

sounds very homogonized

[olive zephyr]

hey im a miner lv 57 but i dont have the actions from lv50 to 55?

[faint flare]

Do your job quests

[olive zephyr]

i jave been

[polar hound]

have you progressed to heavensward+

[faint flare]

You need to be in heavensward for 50-60 job quests

Story wisr

[olive zephyr]

im currently in stormblood

[open coral]

I mean, I'm not sure what you were expecting.

[leaden ginkgo]

Should I be concerned about missing out on MSQ exp cause I'm gonna hit 80 before I finish the 78 quests lol

[open coral]

Yeah, but not a ton. It's not the end of the world

[polar hound]

i wouldn't be concerned.. exp comes and goes, if you really dont wanna miss it your option would be to swap to a different job

[warped nest]

Dungeons are the big source of exp

[pearl perch]

Did the items for Gemstone trader ranks change or something?
cuz I swear I can buy stuff the sites tell me are in higher ranks

[placid raptor]

uh about that uringer guy for the horse trial thing. i went into waking sands and the entire office is messed up its dark and not a npc in sight

[warped nest]

Msq exp are there just so you don't need to grind dungeons to keep up

[leaden ginkgo]

I definitely don't wanna stop and grind an alt in the middle of the story so I'll just press on

[faint flare]

Continue the story abit

[void vigil]

more interesting itemization - chance on hit procs, set bonuses, items that have on use or on equip effects

you know, better RPG stuff

[faint flare]

Your current story is involving the waking sands so its a different instance

[faint flare]

Alot of those would be irrelevant

[polar hound]

all of those would mess with balancing as well

[void vigil]

not really, ads more flavor and fun - people these days just want flat damage increases i guess

[faint flare]

Since "metas" would always exist and additional balancing annoyances

[open coral]

The goal was to have a balanced endgame spread. Adding those things makes balance much more difficult. Also, this isn't WoW. The kinds of things you describe are somewhat rolled into various jobs already.

[faint flare]

So half would be useless

Since its not "meta"

Its why specs dont exist

[void vigil]

I gues...

[open coral]

Trust us when we say that endgame rotations are plenty interesting.

[faint flare]

It would get to a point of "use this or you're bad"

[warped nest]

Imma be blunt, if you want a game to be exactly like other game, probably just play the other game

[void vigil]

on a 2.5 sec GCD tho?

[faint flare]

Which SE trys to avoid

[warped nest]

You have weaving

In between GCd

[open coral]

ogcd weaving is a thing.

Again, this isn't WoW

[void vigil]

I mean the raiding seems carbon copied of WoW besides the music and animations

[polar hound]

^

[warped nest]

So your practical apm is quite high

[open coral]

Raiding is very different from WoW - saying this as a former Mythic raider in WoW

[void vigil]

im not trying to shit on FFXIV btw im just trying to understand the endgame

[warped nest]

I am not familiar with wow, do wow raid has the same mechanical complexity and dances as XIV?

[void vigil]

giving my observations

[zinc orbit]

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This channel is for new or returning players to ask questions and discuss Final Fantasy XIV. As a reminder this channel is a troll free and an off-topic free zone. For general discussion please use #general-discussion. <@&473626701947994134> are available to help in this channel. Thank-You, Kupo!

[warped nest]

XIV raid focus a lot more on the mechanic solving

[open coral]

WoW raids have more randomized attack patterns, and often a lot more mechanics happening simultaneously.

[faint flare]

Gotta remember both games are old as fuck

[open coral]

To the point that addons are a requirement in order to perform well.

[polar hound]

yeah, if you aint got dbm for wow you just aint doin it basically

[open coral]

DBM/Bigwigs for mechanics and timers, Weakauras for cooldowns and more mechanic callouts.

[polar hound]

mechanics are less randomized here, more scripted i guess.. but this also allows for your healers to dps and not just 'pure healer fantasy' their way through etc

[open coral]

And of course Details to let you know just how bad (or good) you and the rest of the people in your group are doing.

[dire prawn]

Can they 'pure healer fantasy' their way through anyways or does that just simply not work in FFXIV

[warped nest]

You can, but you are wasting your own time

[faint flare]

If you're "pure healer" then you're like

[open coral]

In theory you can pure healer fantasy it... but the fights are balanced with the assumption that everyone is doing dps, including the healer.

[faint flare]

Literally afking

[warped nest]

Because with correct defensive cooldown from the tank and you healing, you will be wasting your healing spells all the time

[polar hound]

Enrage timers exist in ffxiv. if everyone isnt pulling their weight, you will not succeed

[faint flare]

If you only act when you need to heal then you're active like 10% of the fight

[dire prawn]

So healers can actually dps in FFXIV

[polar hound]

healers are EXPECTED to dps

to be clear

[open coral]

Yes, healers are very much expected to dps in XIV

[warped nest]

You can choose not to, but you should

[dire prawn]

I'm learning

[open coral]

To the point that "green dps" is a meme

[faint flare]

And end up DPSing 99% of the time

People dont need to be full

Just healed enough

[polar hound]

if you get into savage/extreme as a healer and do not dps, you will most likely be kicked/replaced quick as heck lol

[faint flare]

If you dont need to heal, dps

[warped nest]

The higher level your healer is, you get more tools to heal and handle different scenario

[open coral]

70% HP is generally more than enough for everyone to survive

[dire prawn]

green dps?

[faint flare]

Yes

[warped nest]

Then you just have a lot of time not needing to spend your healing resources

[open coral]

Healer icons ^ are green

Therefore a healer is "green" dps

[dire prawn]

Oh

So that's White Mage, Scholar and... what's the third one?

[open coral]

AST

Astrologian

[faint flare]

Astro

[warped nest]

Tanks are Dps who takes damage
Healer are Dps who make sure people don't die
Dps are Dps who does mechanics incorrectly and give trouble to healer

[polar hound]

^

[dire prawn]

What's the difference between the three 🤔

[faint flare]

Playstyle and how they heal

[warped nest]

Different toolset to achieve the same purpose

[open coral]

Tanks and healers can do mechanics

dps can't 😄

[faint flare]

And what they bring to the tablr

[dire prawn]

That'll probably be me when SE finally lets me make an account for the free trial

[polar hound]

tank priviledge, basically.

[gloomy ice]

WHM is the closest to pure heals. SCH has a pet and is more about preventing damage. AST has cards they use to buff party members.

[warped nest]

But they have all the movesets required to perform as a Healer

[open coral]

WHM, ironically, is also the closest to pure dps as healers go.

[warped nest]

WHM has a lot of healing ability at their disposal

[polar hound]

mages be maging

[dire prawn]

Is WHM a starting class, an evolved class or an expac class

[polar hound]

Conjurer is the starter

[faint flare]

Yes, conjuer

[polar hound]

for whm

[open coral]

It's a "job". It extends from the Conjurer (CNJ) starter class

[warped nest]

Scholar (Healer Job) comes from the Arcanist starting class (DPS class)

[open coral]

They're the only class that is a healer from level 1

[frank wigeon]

Hey may someone who knows maths help find how many mats I need to achieve 969696 point as miner? I have 261026 points. Each regular node Is 5 set=13 points and rare node 5 set=15 points. I've been trying to calculate but I get decimals

[open coral]

Since ACN is dps until level 30

[pearl perch]

What my Rank 1 Lakeland Gemstone Trader look like

[warped nest]

Astrologian is a standalone Jobs, introduced in Heavensward

[pearl perch]

What the wiki says it should look like

[forest sage]

back in ARR launch I healed dungeons as ACN but with DF queues can't really do that naymore

[polar hound]

wiki is very often out of date and you should probably look at Gamerscape instead

[pearl perch]

that;s gameescape

[dire prawn]

I think I remember hearing that Arcanist is what you should pick if you just want to blow everything up

[faint flare]

Thats thaumatugre

[open coral]

ACN is your pet-and-dot dps caster

[polar hound]

i know they messed with the gemstones..just cant recall when

[forest sage]

yeah that's thm, which evolves into black mage, the explosion job

[faint flare]

For explosions

[open coral]

THM is your turret mage

[pearl perch]

Eulmore gamestone trader needs R3 in all areas? or R2?

[faint flare]

Arcanist gets summoner (and scholar) who gets pets and space lasers

[pearl perch]

cuz I can't trust wikis anymore

[polar hound]

wish i could tell you, but i didnt have enough interest to persue that beyond 1 area

[forest sage]

I have them all maxed but I don't remember when they unlocked

I assume at 3 everything though

[little swift]

R3 in all of them

[warped nest]

THM/Black Mage dances between their Astral Fire and Umbral Ice stance. In AF, your Fire spell (take note that elemental in XIV doesn't works like typical RPG, like a tree enemy doesn't take extra damage from fire) becomes more potent but cost more MP, while Umbral Ice lets you quickly recover MP

[little swift]

Gamerescape is a usually fine source for info

[dire prawn]

Oh

[pearl perch]

and here I was hoping it would be different now that gamerescape is off the mark for ir

[little swift]

Consolegameswiki not always as accurate

[warped nest]

Console game wiki is manually maintain

[polar hound]

in 5.2 patch notes they state "new items have been added to bi-color gemstone traders" but that's all i could find.

[pearl perch]

all of it for justthe wine rack deco

sigh

[forest sage]

yeah consolegamesiwiki is often outdated, but they have nicer guides for stuff(like relics and what not)

[warped nest]

If you look hard enough, you can probably find gears with obsolete stat in console game wiki

[dire prawn]

So Thaumaturge is the one that blows everything up

[pearl perch]

I just like that ot loads faster :D

[warped nest]

Yeah, their guides are generally fine

[polar hound]

Thaumaturge will become Black Mage so yeah

[forest sage]

yeah loads faster too

[dire prawn]

Wait what's the third Disciple of Magic class do 🤔

[polar hound]

Black Mage is a selfish/greedy/Turret style dps

[warped nest]

Red Mage

[forest sage]

red mage, black+white magic+melee weapon combos sometimes

[dire prawn]

Turret-style = stands in one spot and throws spells everywhere?

[polar hound]

yep

[warped nest]

Red Mage can cast Black magic and White Magic. It has a unique trait that let them dualcast spell (casting one spell successfully make your next spell instant)

[polar hound]

they have an ability named Ley Lines, its just a small buff circle that they shouldn't ever want to leave that buffs their casting times etc

[primal bison]

anyone wanna do titan unreal ? im looking for a party to clear it

[polar hound]

and also casting times of course

[dire prawn]

ooh

[warped nest]

Red Mage spells build up their black/white Mana, and you can spend them to use enchanted melee attacks

[pearl perch]

Red Mage has what I like to call the "Huzzah" factor

it equals more awesome

[little swift]

Try party finder

[polar hound]

style points

[dire prawn]

Is Red Mage the starting 3rd magic class or the evolved one like BLM and WHM

[polar hound]

starting

[little swift]

Its an expansion job

[forest sage]

neither, starts at 60

it's a stormblood job

[little swift]

Starts at 50

[forest sage]

err 50

[polar hound]

it's an expansion job so ye, doesnt have a 'class' just a 'job'

[red apex]

Is red mage a good class for a first timer?

[forest sage]

well you need to be 50 to unlock it

[open coral]

It's fine, but you can't play it from level 1

[red apex]

I understand I can’t be her till lv 50 though

[dire prawn]

oof

[forest sage]

but otherwise it's a simple and strong class yeah

[red apex]

Yes I understand

But in the long run are they good

Nice

[primal bison]

wait is this where i should look for a group or is there a better place ?

[polar hound]

red mage is nice, learning how/when to use your melee combo is good info for other jobs also

[open coral]

At baseline it's fairly simple. You can pull adequate damage with just the basics.

[forest sage]

it's easy to solo with with big burst, range and strong self heals if stuff is going poorly, and it has a rez for group content which is nice when stuff goes wrong

[pearl perch]

And remember shout "Huzzah" before every melee combo, you'll thank me for it

[red apex]

I was debating bars or red mage but I heard bars is a little hard to play

[forest sage]

bars?

[dire prawn]

bars?

[shrewd owl]

bard

[polar hound]

bard

[obsidian patio]

Bard is more on quick reaction to procs than hard

[red apex]

Bard

[forest sage]

oh

[frigid mason]

I'm sure this question has been asked a million times, but does anyone know if the carbuncle minion will be reintroduced? Or any idea how to get one?

[red apex]

Sorry auto correct lol

[little swift]

Please refrain from shitposting in this channel thanks

[pearl perch]

I wasn't tho

I actually do it

[obsidian patio]

They’re a promo code from the carbuncle plushes on the SE store

[red apex]

Is it difficult to play?

[obsidian patio]

Easy to play, but has lots of small optimizations that pile up

[frigid mason]

Cheers @obsidian patio

[little swift]

Not valid advice though

[dire prawn]

I would also like to know this because I plan to make an Archer when I start because it's ranged >.>

[red apex]

I see

[little swift]

It doesn't improve gameplay or help its more silly than anything

[red apex]

Maybe I’ll try and start with red mage and if I don’t like then go hard

[plain python]

Archer spends their time mostly press the lv1 skill, until a proc happens 😄

[dire prawn]

What do you mean by proc 🤔

[warped nest]

!action Heavy Shot

[zinc orbit]

**Heavy Shot** : lvl 1 ARC BRD (2.5 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 180.
Additional Effect: 20% chance of becoming Straight Shot Ready
Duration: 10s

Powered by XIVAPI

[warped nest]

!action Straight Shot

[zinc orbit]

**Straight Shot** : lvl 2 ARC BRD (2.5 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 200.
Can only be executed when Straight Shot Ready.

Powered by XIVAPI

[plain python]

well, lv1 skill has a chance for lv2 skill to be available, and stuff

[faint flare]

Something that allows you to use another skill

[dire prawn]

Oh

[faint flare]

At a random chance

[dire prawn]

I see

[red apex]

Would you say archers are fun to play though?

I like playing archer in genshin impact but only because you can aim

[faint flare]

Bards are fun cause theyre high apm

[open coral]

ARC, no. BRD, yes.

[plain python]

well, if you like to kite the heck out of solo MSQ boss, yeah 😄

[warped nest]

As BS as this may sound, I find all of XIV Jobs enjoyable

[forest sage]

I personally hate bards, but that's subjective, people have different tastes

[plain python]

the only time I feel fun with Archer/Bard

[red apex]

That’s great to hear

[warped nest]

At high level, BRD applies damage over time on enemies, occasionally these damage over time will give your BRD resources and let them use powerful skills

On top of these, you have abilities to do more damage on enemies inflicted with your DOT

[dire prawn]

Ranged DoT

[plain python]

well, it is mostly to proc your skills during songs

[warped nest]

Ability to grant you procs directly instead of waiting for RNG

Etc

[dire prawn]

Why am I not surprised that the Bard plays songs

[faint flare]

Cause thats their gimmick

[plain python]

yelling while shoting

[faint flare]

Thats what a bard does

[warped nest]

I thought Bard, in real world, are like traveling poets

[forest sage]

well yeah obviously, although the songs are just buffs you put on for 30(20?) seconds and give special effects

[warped nest]

Who sing songs

[little swift]

30 30 20 is the song rotation

[faint flare]

They use music in some way

[plain python]

the actually use of song is also met with skeptical in-game

[dire prawn]

I wonder why 🤔

[plain python]

not even NPCs believe that it has any use until you prove it

[dire prawn]

[open coral]

It's part of the BRD job questline

[red apex]

I think Elezen class is perfect for bard

But I used it for my upcoming red mage

Anyone here actually feel cool using the small people?

Forgot their name. Tellel or something

[faint flare]

Lalafell

[dire prawn]

Lalafell

ye

[red apex]

Yeah that lol

[faint flare]

Yes people play them

[red apex]

I understand that but do you feel cool using it? Lol

[open coral]

They're most popular on the JP servers, but there's plenty of them everywhere else.

[red apex]

I couldn’t take my character serious

[dire prawn]

Somebody in ffxiv-discussion earlier was mentioning that this one datacenter is basically a lalafell server

[open coral]

So I'm gonna go with "yes, people feel cool playing them"

[red apex]

Though I loved Vivi from ff9

Lol I see

Sorry no hate for short people

[open coral]

Personally I prefer catgirls.

[frigid mason]

I love my lalafell character, he's awesome 🤷‍♂️

[red apex]

I just can’t take the game serious if I were to be one

[open coral]

So don't be one

Easy

[red apex]

I know

[open coral]

Plenty of other races to choose from.

[red apex]

I’m just saying. No hate or discrimination

[dire prawn]

That's exactly why I'm trying to create a SE account

[red apex]

Aura was cool too. She looked really cute stick

Stock*

[dire prawn]

I saw banner ads with cute cat girls and I had to check if the game was any good

[red apex]

I think fallelel are cute af though

Layla fell

[dire prawn]

How do you spell their name wrong after we typed it four times

[red apex]

Lalafell

Lmao sorry

[dire prawn]

Layla fell

[red apex]

Autocorrect

[plain python]

Lalafell as dancer. Tantaru proves it

but well, play what you want

[dire prawn]

Why would I let a little munchkin thing carry around bladed discs that it has to throw

[open coral]

For the same reason people have their little munchkin things carry around swords or axes three times their size.

[red apex]

Yes no discrimination. I think they’re cute as heck

[dire prawn]

I mean at their size everything is two or three times their size

[open coral]

Because murder hobbits are adorable

[plain python]

the same munchkin that wears 2-hand blade with one-hand as Paladin. I don't know why but some weapons on Lalafell looks oversized

[red apex]

I mean it’s final fantasy. Everything comes in all shapes and sizes

[dire prawn]

True

[red apex]

No discrimination

[dire prawn]

I just want to play a cute cat girl archer

[red apex]

Man, ninja and samurai seems so cool though

[dire prawn]

But SE won't let me make an account

[plain python]

sure. Mi'qote is known as hunting clans, so archer fits them

[red apex]

I just think they are hard to play end game

[dire prawn]

Unironically that's part of the reason I'm doing it

[twilit arch]

if you wanna idle chit chat, please take it to #general-discussion

[plain python]

is building the hotspring in Firmament the very last phase?

[slate arrow]

we don't know

[faint flare]

Yes, last phase

[slate arrow]

oh

[faint flare]

Tonberry just finished

Posted picture on reddit

[little swift]

This is the last firmament phase

5.5 won't have anything

[plain python]

I remember someone said about Ishgard housing after Firmament? Is it just a rumor or already confirmed?

[faint flare]

No

There's no confirmation that housing is coming

If anything, it won't be before the expansion launch

It would be after

[dire prawn]

Wait is there housing in FFXIV?

[faint flare]

Yes

[dire prawn]

[faint flare]

Hard to get due to the availability of it

But there's always apartments

[dire prawn]

oh

[analog island]

Hey, question about crystal tower, is the raids mandatory befor 3.0 or is it only til 5.3?

[faint flare]

There's a check before 3.0

Need to do it before heavensward

[worthy rain]

Is it class and races the same?

[analog island]

Oh ok, I'm leveling an alt and wanted to know, thanks

[worthy rain]

I mean, there is: the job, class, and race?

[glacial isle]

Question about Glams: If I have a BLM, BLU, and SMN, would I need separate copies of (for example) the Shire Gear for each of their glams (unless I bind their glams to the class and have it auto-switch [assuming i'm in a sanctuary])?

[faint flare]

Nah just use glamour plates

[cold steppe]

did someone listed maybe how many items from ishgardian restoration you need to make, more or less, to get crafter from 20 to 50?

[faint flare]

There's no race or class lock

Every race can be everything

[glacial isle]

Yes that's the thing. I have separate glamour plates for BLM and BLU, but only 1 set of Shire gear so if I switch outside a city, the glam doesn't change

[worthy rain]

I read this:

''Elezen for bard''

So, Elezen is a race, bard the job, but a class? the same as race right

[faint flare]

Yeah thats the only annoyance but its the nest you can do

[worthy rain]

yes, every race every job

[faint flare]

Class = job

They're the same thing

Jobs are just advanced classes

[twilit arch]

its not like you can keep multiple sets of shire gear on you anyway

since its unique gear

[glacial isle]

ah

[twilit arch]

no

elezen is a race

[dire prawn]

Elezen is a race

[faint flare]

Elezen is a race

[worthy rain]

ok ok

[dire prawn]

They were just saying that an Elezen would look cool as a Bard

[worthy rain]

What I said above ok

[worthy rain]

ok

[gloomy ice]

Races have a very minor difference in stats but it's so small that it's irrelevant by the time you hit level 50.

So every race can be viable as any class/job.

[worthy rain]

how many are? is someone more cool? cat ones? hahahaha

[dire prawn]

Miqo'te are nekos

[faint flare]

Its personal preference

[dire prawn]

Cat guys or cat girls

Elezen for example is FFXIV's Elven race

[glacial isle]

(also Hrothgar and Viera can't wear most hats for some reason)

[dire prawn]

Have you seen a Viera's ears

[faint flare]

They just have weird and stupid skeleton and structural stuff

Fits in with usual SE fashion

[dire prawn]

So what's the difference between Advanced Jobs like Ninja, Machinist, Dancer, etc. and the starting classes like Archer and Thaumaturgist that end up becoming other jobs like Bard and Black Mage

[faint flare]

Classes go up to a specific job

And job differences are playstyle, role and what they bring

[gloomy ice]

Base classes stop learning skills at level 50. They need to promote into their jobs to get the remainder of their skills as 2/3 of their kit is on their job and not their base class.

[desert ravine]

how do i go back. to the space ship. for the eden thing.

i forgot the way

[dire prawn]

So I could technically stay an Archer until 50 but after that I'd have to promote into a Bard?

[forest sage]

change to bard asap

[gloomy ice]

It's recommended to get the Bard job as early as possible.

[forest sage]

you get more stats, and bard skills

[glacial isle]

Theoretically. But that's like chopping off a leg

[cold steppe]

is scoring in season for ishgardian restoration only available for max lvl crafters?

[gloomy ice]

If you're playing as Archer that is.

[dire prawn]

chopping off a leg

[forest sage]

base classes are some remnant from old design that kinda serve no purpose

[dire prawn]

Job advancement for base classes unlocks at 30 right

[forest sage]

basically you unlock your job when you can, then you never go back

yeah 30, but need to do the lvl 20 sylph management MSQ, which sometimes you won't get before 30+ on preferred servers or if you grind a bunch of dungeons or whaztever

[warped nest]

!faq Job

[zinc orbit]

How do I unlock my job?

To unlock your class' job you need to be level 30, complete all of your class quests and the main scenario quest 'Sylph Management' (lvl 20 quest) to be able to pick up your job unlock quest. Once you've done the initial unlock quest, you will be given a soul crystal which you must equip to become your class' job.

[gloomy ice]

It's technically available as soon as you're able to submit collectables but it's much easier to get rank points at level 80.

[dire prawn]

So that's how it is

[warped nest]

More additional info about class and job

You stop learning skill as a class at lvl 50

[cold steppe]

are those items you craft to lvl crafter classes from 20 onwards the collectables you're talking about?

[dire prawn]

Is that also why the expac jobs unlock at 50 and 60?

[warped nest]

And level 30 job quest onward sometimes give you skills

[obsidian patio]

South of the Journey inn aetheryte option thing for amh araeng

[robust magnet]

Question regarding these two settings.
The top one seems to be scaling for if you use other than standard, but the second one is the actual size of UI elements.

Will doing something similar to what I have in the screenshot give a better/less blurry UI for 1440p+ Resolutions? (scaling it to 200% but then reducing the UI elements below 100%)

[worthy rain]

For Dark Knight in HW, is a job, not a class?

I mean, have to elect certain class to choose DK?

[robust magnet]

Dark Knight is it's own job.

[warped nest]

!faq hwjobs

[worthy rain]

awesome

[zinc orbit]

Heavensward Jobs and How to Unlock Them

Heavensward Expansion Jobs: Dark Knight (DRK, Tank), Astrologian (AST, Healer), and Machinist (MCH, Ranged DPS). These jobs start at level 30 and require the completion of the level 50 main scenario quest "Before the Dawn".
Since the 5.3 update DRK, AST, and MCH are now included in the free trial/Starter edition of the game, though the unlock requirements are still the same.

Job Unlock Locations:
Dark Knight - Ishgardian Citizen at The Pillars (13,9), quest name is "Our End".
Astrologian - Jannequinard at The Pillars (15,10), quest name is "Stairway to the Heavens".
Machinist - Stephanivien at Foundation (8,10), quest name is "Savior of Skysteel".

[warped nest]

You just need any combat Job

[forest sage]

every expansion job just starts without a class

[worthy rain]

thanks (y)

[robust magnet]

It does not promote like Gladiator to Pali.

[gloomy ice]

Yeah, the highest level item you can turn in will give you rank points, albeit a much smaller amount than you would get as an 80.

[worthy rain]

awesome, can play whatever and then switch directly to those jobs

[robust magnet]

It will start at level 30, iirc?

[cold steppe]

huh, thats weird cuz for example on goldsmith the only thing i can turn in is ignots, but they do not give me points, not that i can see any at least, not like im going to try compete ofc i just wondered cuz at the guy where you get stamps it doesnt show anything for me point wise.

[leaden ginkgo]

How do i know what level of materia i can put on a tool ?

Ohhh i see it

[warped nest]

Many reasons:

• don't need to let people level them from scratch
• don't need to design job quests (writing, animating cutscene, etc)
• don't need to design weapons
• etc

[robust magnet]

The Item level of the item iirc.

[whole wasp]

Look at the ilvl of the equipment

[faint flare]

Materia has a minimum ilvl it needs to be to put in. It says on the materia

And ilvl of equipment

[whole wasp]

And compare to the materia

Thr materia will say min ilvl requiree

[dire prawn]

So if the way that you change what class/job your character is, is by changing what weapon you're wielding is it pretty easy then to find different weapons

[leaden ginkgo]

Thanks

[warped nest]

Actually you need to talk to the respective NPC first

[dire prawn]

[warped nest]

Then you can equip those weapons

To become those Jobs

[cold steppe]

the quest that unlock a class gives you a basic weapon for you to start with

[dire prawn]

I see

[warped nest]

You cannot go buy/make/loot a weapon and equip it, it won't work

Have to talk to NPC first

[dire prawn]

Does that mean you can buy/make/loot weapons of other classes still for if/when you do go and get that class 🤔

[warped nest]

Yes

[whole wasp]

Yup

[warped nest]

You can stock up first

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This channel is for new or returning players to ask questions and discuss Final Fantasy XIV. As a reminder this channel is a troll free and an off-topic free zone. For general discussion please use #general-discussion. <@&473626701947994134> are available to help in this channel. Thank-You, Kupo!

[dire prawn]

Does each class have their own keybinds? Or do your keybinds apply to all classes

[plain python]

is it worth to at least get the base Skysteel tool?

[slate arrow]

@dire prawn you can set up your hotbars in a way so that certain hotbars don't change when you swap jobs

[dire prawn]

So they do change

That just sounds like pain

[twilit arch]

no

keybinds themselves do not change based on jobs

[slate arrow]

only your hotbars

Because every job has its own action set

Besides a few specific role actions, quite literally nothing is shared between jobs

[plain python]

if you have a hotbar you want to share between jobs (like where you put shortcuts for food, chocobo, and something), set that hotbar share-able

[south roost]

i just got the dark knight class, whats the best way for me to get back to level 50?

[glacial isle]

Dungeons

[dire prawn]

Oh I see

[south roost]

and how long will it take?

[plain python]

a few hours of constant dungeon runs

[glacial isle]

For Arcanist (at lvl 15) should I use Blue Carby or Yellow Carby more often?

[slate arrow]

Blue.

[plain python]

yellow cuz blue is annoying without AoE situation

blue may potentially lure monsters than you intend

[slate arrow]

In most circumstances you should never need to use yellow carbuncle

[plain python]

cuz it hits AoE

[glacial isle]

Pick one

[slate arrow]

Blue. Definitely blue in dungeons.

[faint flare]

https://www.akhmorning.com/jobs/smn/guide/levelling-up/#pet-usage

[dire prawn]

Y'all giving him two different answers

[faint flare]

Topaz for single, emerald for aoe

[glacial isle]

can't wait till i get to SMN and get 3 answers for the Egis :v

[faint flare]

Nah thats easier

Cause the roles of each are clear

Ifirit for 1-2, garuda for aoe

[twilit arch]

general rule of thumb is: emerald/garuda for AoE trash in dungeons, ifrit for bosses/1-2 mobs

[faint flare]

Titan for when people are monkeys/solo purposes and burst aoe optimization

[twilit arch]

titan/topaz is if you wanna do burst aoe/need survivability

[worthy rain]

Miqo'te are cool with their tails

Then Hyur is human

Au Ra are also cool, but wait to HW to choose it

[dire prawn]

Why wait until HW to choose Au'Ra?

[gloomy ice]

Both the free trial and the starter edition include Heavensward now so you can choose Au Ra from the beginning.

[worthy rain]

Thing is, every time you change the class, or job, the level is not shared right? Have to level all classes and jobs individually (but faster than the first one)

[gloomy ice]

Correct

[dire prawn]

So if the Lv 50 HW advanced jobs start at 30 what do the Lv 60 advanced jobs in SHB start at 🤔

Or do they also start at 30

[shrewd owl]

they start at 60

[worthy rain]

I meant, you start in ARR, complete MSQ quests of ARR to progresss to HW, then so you can choose Au'Ra (HW exclusive)

Yes, I know in free or complete HW is included

[dire prawn]

oh

[faint flare]

!faq expacjobs

[zinc orbit]

Expansion Jobs and How to Unlock Them

Heavensward Expansion Jobs: Dark Knight (Tank), Astrologian (Healer), and Machinist (Ranged DPS). These jobs start at level 30 and require completion of the level 50 main scenario quest 'Before the Dawn'.
Quest Unlock Locations:
Dark Knight - Pillars(13,8).
Astrologian - Pillars(15,10).
Machinist - Foundation(8,10).

Stormblood Expansion Jobs: Red Mage (Caster DPS) and Samurai (Melee DPS). These jobs start at level 50 and require ownership of the Stormblood Expansion and a disciple of war or magic job at level 50.
Quest Unlock Locations:
Red Mage - Ul'dah(14,17).
Samurai - Ul'dah(9,9).

Shadowbringers Expansion Jobs: Gunbreaker (Tank) and Dancer (Ranged DPS). These jobs start at level 60 and require ownership of the Shadowbringers Expansion and a disciple of war or magic job at level 60.
Quest Unlock Locations:
Gunbreaker - New Gridania (11,11).
Dancer - Limsa Lominsa Lower Decks (9,12).

[shrewd owl]

SB jobs start at 50

[faint flare]

See here

[glacial isle]

no you can choose Au'ra at the start

you don't need to get to HW to become an Au'ra

same with the SB/ShB races

[slate arrow]

You already have HW

[worthy rain]

awesome hahaha

[dire prawn]

Wait

A Gunbreaker uses a gun right

But it's a tank?

[glacial isle]

gunsword

[faint flare]

Gunblade

[shrewd owl]

gunblade

[faint flare]

Like squall

From 8

[shrewd owl]

mch uses a gun

[gloomy ice]

Gunbreakers use a gunblade, which technically isn't a gun. It's a sword that causes explosions.

[whole wasp]

Its basically a giant bayonet with a little peashooter in it

[worthy rain]

Yes, I though you have to be in the first MSQ of HW to choose HW exclusives

[dire prawn]

Explosive sword

Why is that a tank 🤔

[whole wasp]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[gloomy ice]

Jobs and story, yes. Race, no.

[faint flare]

Because they use their cartridges to create defensive barriers

And parry with their sword

Gunbreakers in lore are frontline fighters

So

[shrewd owl]

combos are fairly dps like but thats about it

[dreamy jasper]

Technical Question regarding the free trial. I installed it on my PC but also wanted to play here and there on my Mac. It seems the trial is treated separately as I logged into the same account and is prompting for a key. I was able to bypass by changing the startup completed value to “1” inside the ffxiv_boot.cfg, so now I don’t have the key prompt but it’s still saying I don’t have the ability to login. Anyone know a way around this?

[dire prawn]

It is treated differently

I googled the same thing for going between PS4 and PC and if I do that I lose the free trial

[dreamy jasper]

Wack

Guess I’ll just parsec stream it

[worthy rain]

lose the free trial because switching platform?

[dire prawn]

Yeah something like that

[worthy rain]

was gonna switch ps4 to ps5, lets check it out

[leaden ginkgo]

Can I play with the same account on both my PS4 and my PC?

[dreamy jasper]

Any advantage in ffxiv to having multiple trial accounts? Another character per world I guess

[worthy rain]

I though free trial logs into you se account to not loose progress

[whole wasp]

Yes

[dire prawn]

So if I get the free trial on PS4 and then use the same login and login on my laptop I'd lose the free trial I had on the PS4 on both systems

[faint flare]

Yes. You would need to rebuy it again on both platforms

[leaden ginkgo]

Can I do so if it is a trail account?

[dire prawn]

@leaden ginkgo no

[faint flare]

No, trial is locked to one device

[dire prawn]

^

[worthy rain]

uuuuuu

not cross save for free trial then

[whole wasp]

If you buy the game. You can still cross-save.

[worthy rain]

yes yes, that is why I say free trial

but, gonna do cheapest method

free trial till HW, and then 30 days free of complete edition

[dire prawn]

The free trial lasts all the way through HW

[worthy rain]

awesome

and then, with complete, it comes 30 free days

[dire prawn]

Yep

[worthy rain]

awesome

[leaden ginkgo]

When I’m gearing, should I always get the weapon first?

[dire prawn]

And after that the monthly sub of $13 USD kicks in

[worthy rain]

not auto

[whole wasp]

Yes unless you intent to share gear withim jobs

[dire prawn]

true

Wait you can share gear within jobs?

[worthy rain]

the first one after the free 30 days is manually

the rest, no

[whole wasp]

Yes. Healers share gear and tanks share gear for example

Weapons are all job-locked obviously

[worthy rain]

Im gonna try in the 30 days free progress SBlood and SHB

Lets see if with no subs it can be made hahaha

[whole wasp]

It should be possible

Focus on

And pick a server with the exp buff

[worthy rain]

Yes, wanna focus on level and msq, and yes, preferred server, I dont care if the people speaks the same or not

But first, for all new ones like me, wait to buy complete for announcementh of release of new expansion

it will be included in complete

just if it worth the wait, but you are gonna save something

[carmine palm]

I'm a level 44 BLU, is there any way to level up fast

[whole wasp]

Get a friend.

Hit lvl 59 mobs with sardine.

[dire prawn]

LOL

[whole wasp]

Lvl 80 friend oneshots mobs you tag.

Hit lvl 60 in 15 minutes

[carmine palm]

But I don't have any friends online

[dire prawn]

I don't have any friends

[carmine palm]

Or have any knowledge of where to do that

[faint flare]

You go to a high level area, tag mobs and have them kill stuff

While not in a party

[silver ruin]

azys lla is the best area to do that

[faint flare]

Lv69 mobs HAVE been coded

[whole wasp]

The map outside idyllshie have plently of level 59s

[faint flare]

For blue xp

So

Actually

[silver ruin]

o

[faint flare]

Lv69 mobs are better

[carmine palm]

Can someone help me with it

I'm adamantoise

[worthy rain]

This about level up so fast with mobs with friends you are talking.

With free trial can be made? I read there are social limitations in free trial

[faint flare]

People can invite trial members but trial people can't invite others

[silver ruin]

also this only applies to blue mage

not any other class

[worthy rain]

Then, for sure someone in this server is helpful hahahaha

[worthy rain]

ok ok

[carmine palm]

Because blue mages can't get experience from dungeons

[dire prawn]

Wait what

[faint flare]

They can techincally

Its just

Much lower

Than overworld mobs

Blue mage is a limited job and cant que for dungeons normally. They need a premade party or turn on Undersized party and Synced to que for dungeons

[worthy rain]

For black mage, what is the faster method? dungeons also?

[dire prawn]

What in the hell

[high owl]

Hey I'm really confused on this part of the story of "BEFORE THE FALL" if anyone can answer?

[faint flare]

Blue mage is side content more than an actual job

[worthy rain]

no spoilers man

[high owl]

ok

[faint flare]

Because its fucking bonkers

Just use spoiler tags

[dire prawn]

What does blue mage even do to warrant not being able to queue up for dungeons normally

[faint flare]

Instant kill bosses

Clear dungeons in 5mins

[gloomy ice]

The spells it can learn make it absurdly broken. So it's designed as its own side game.

[faint flare]

When the average time is 15m+

[obsidian patio]

They have their own set of side content such as special achievements and exclusive mounts/minions

[faint flare]

Plus they can be every role

[obsidian patio]

!mount morbol

[zinc orbit]

Morbol (1 Seats)

Though all it has ever wanted is to help, this morbol was found to be “too sweet” to present a challenge at the Celestium, and was transferred to the Blue Mages' Guild before it had even seen its first match─only for it to be deemed “insufficiently vile” there as well.

Obtained From

True Blue (Achievement)

Powered by https://ffxivcollect.com/

[carmine palm]

We just can't really revive people

[faint flare]

They can

!action Angel's Whisper

[zinc orbit]

**Angel's Whisper** : lvl 80 SCH (0.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Gradually restores the HP of all nearby party members.
Cure Potency: 120
Duration: 21s

※This action cannot be assigned to a hotbar.

Powered by XIVAPI

[oak ice]

Angel Whisper

[faint flare]

Wrong skill kupo

[obsidian patio]

!action Angel’s Kiss

[zinc orbit]

Error!

Action not found, Kupo!

[obsidian patio]

It’s angel something

[faint flare]

Its angel whisper

[oak ice]

!action angel whisper

[faint flare]

But there's the serpah skill

[zinc orbit]

**Angel Whisper** : lvl 1 BLU (1000 MP) (300.0 second cooldown)(10.0 second base cast time)

Resurrects target to a weakened state.
This action does not share a recast timer with any other actions.

Blue Magic

Resurrects target to a weakened state. This action does not share a recast timer with any other actions.

Obtained

Complete 30 stages at the Masked Carnivale.

Blue Magic

Type: Magic
Aspect: None
Rank: 4

Powered by XIVAPI | BLU Data Powered by FFXIV Collect

[high owl]

Ok I'll try putting the spoilers on this for the question i have

[oak ice]

No genitive form

[carmine palm]

Oh

[faint flare]

Blue res is just on a cooldown

Because you know

You can bring 8

Or 24 of them

[gloomy ice]

#archived-lore-spoilers channel is also more than willing to answer story related questions

[forest sage]

also because you could rotate suicide attacks and kill everything in like 20secs

[faint flare]

If they didn't super nerf suicide spam

Damn brush with death

[forest sage]

oh yeah they did nerf it on top of that forgot

[faint flare]

I just want to die

[carmine palm]

So can anyone help me

I want to at least get to 50

[faint flare]

See if anyone in your FC can help

[obsidian patio]

Kill stuff equal or slightly above your level

[carmine palm]

But they're all offline

[faint flare]

Otherwise just go 1k needle spam stuff

[forest sage]

just kill things? BLU is like 4hours of lvling killing random monsters on your own

and maybe another 4 for 50-60

[obsidian patio]

44 would be the west half of coerthas, Mor Dhona, Northern Thanalan, and the east half of the East Shroud

[whole wasp]

Get you chocobro out to help you too

[dire prawn]

So if the Bard uses songs to buff themselves and whatnot and the Dancer uses dances to buff themselves then what's the difference between the two 🤔

[scarlet arrow]

bard is heavily DoT-focused

[faint flare]

Dancer primarily buffa 1 person

With party buff every 2min

Bard buffs are party wide and basically permanent

And then playstyle difference

Bards dots and procs, dancer is a 1-2 combo with alot of procs

And simon says mini game

[primal bison]

does anybody know the new monk optimal rotation since 5.4

[dire prawn]

Does Bard do pretty good at AoE or are they single-target DPSers

[hexed flower]

Twin every 2nd combo demolish every 3rd

[whole wasp]

Try #archived-melee-lounge pins

[faint flare]

All jobs have good aoe

[primal bison]

ohh okk

[faint flare]

Bard aoe is fun with rain of death spam under mages ballad

"why can't I hold all these procs"

[dire prawn]

lol

[robust magnet]

what are "Claimed" and "Unclaimed" enemies?

[faint flare]

Claimed are mobs you tagged first

Unclaimed are mobs you haven't

[robust magnet]

I see.
So not all that different than Engaged vs Unengaged?

[faint flare]

Not super different

[leaden ginkgo]

How many players would I need to farm contaiment z1 ex unsync?

Is 2 enough

Its an older content

[gloomy ice]

As 80s, yeah, two is sufficient. Three if you want to be super safe.

[leaden ginkgo]

Uh okay, I just wqnt to farm for zurvinite and lanner alright then

[zinc orbit]

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[faint flare]

Zurvan is soloable (with paladin iirc, probably warrior) so just get as many as you want...more you get faster it dies