questions-and-help

[leaden ginkgo]

Thanks for the reply

[red apex]

hmm

[plain python]

Leveling arcanist gives you both a dps class and a healer class, but both classes are kinda advanced to play with

[leaden ginkgo]

specifically the kupo stamps

The only thing with the voucher mark is grade 4

[red apex]

i like dps

and healing is nice

[slate arrow]

Yes, because you can't obtain Grade 3 and below stuff anymore

[open coral]

The only healer that starts as a healer from 1 is CNJ (Conjurer).

ACN doesn't get to be a healer until after level 30

[plain python]

Warrior is a slow-but-steady tank style. You hit, wait, hit, wait, hit, wait

[red apex]

but i like badassness too lol

i want my character to look cool

[open coral]

Well, the good news is that glamour is the true endgame 😄

[plain python]

Dark Knight andGunBreaker are cool looking

[open coral]

Everyone, ultimately looks super cool

[red apex]

yeah that's why i was considering warrior

[leaden ginkgo]

well damn rip

[faint flare]

Just play everything

[red apex]

lol

[open coral]

I mean, yeah, on the plus side, you don't have to commit to a single class. You can be everything on a single character.

[slate arrow]

You joke but I do have every job leveled to 80 and I'd say they all look pretty flashy

[plain python]

Warrior has big Axe to grind. Cuz its style of DPS is hit and wait, you feel the impact of each hit 😄

[slate arrow]

They really amped up the animations with Shadowbringers

[hexed cargo]

All jobs kinda start out sucky

[open coral]

If you decide you don't like the class you pick to start with, you can change to any other class after completing the level 10 job quest for your starting class.

[hexed cargo]

Id go with Lancer if you wanna melee or Arcanist if you wanna do magic.

[red apex]

dragoon does seem cool XD

[open coral]

All jobs are cool

It's just a matter of preference.

[red apex]

true!

[hexed cargo]

And yea, you can change a job if you aren't feeling it.

[kindred minnow]

is there a way to move everything from my apartment to priv chambers or do i have to individually grab my house items?

[red apex]

so pretty much classes are just cosmetic?

[hexed cargo]

I do recommend picking up rogue when you can cause its pretty fun.

[open coral]

Not at all.

[hexed cargo]

No, they all have different styles and

Other stuff

[open coral]

Every class has a different style and a different role to play in the party.

[red apex]

I see. I'll have a look around before i decide my class then XD

[hexed cargo]

Tanks are pretty similar and dont become unique until 80 imo.

[open coral]

Some are pure damage types like SAM and BLM, others are tanks or healers, or are dps with support features like DNC and BRD.

[vernal urchin]

You'll have to grab everything and move it yourself iirc

[kindred minnow]

ty

[red apex]

excuse my noobness but what is DNC and BRD?

[open coral]

DNC is Dancer. BRD is Bard

[vernal urchin]

Dancer and bard

[red apex]

ohh okay

thank you 😄

[vernal urchin]

Archer turns into bard at level 30

[open coral]

Archer (ARC) becomes Bard (BRD) at level 30 after completing the job quest.

You'll pick up the abbreviations pretty quickly, since they show up on equipment.

[red apex]

great to know. Thank you so much guys. You've all been very helpful

[patent citrus]

ten and chi are ogcd right??

[faint flare]

No

[obsidian patio]

They’re GCDs

[faint flare]

Gcd

[patent citrus]

i see

ty ty

[simple shore]

wait what

oh wait, nvm, they're just ludicrously fast. never looked tbh.

[faint flare]

Ninja reworked changed them

[open coral]

Yeah, they're short cds, but technically they're on the gcd

[leaden ginkgo]

oh yea, is the ishgardian restoration thing permanent ? Just wanna know if this will be always be the best way to level DOH/DOL

[open coral]

Yes, it's permanent content

[faint flare]

Yes

[slate arrow]

yes

[open coral]

Only the ranking board is time-limited

[leaden ginkgo]

WEW , glad i don't need to rush it

[verbal forge]

got

any gunbreaker rotation?

[open coral]

Combos

Defensives as-needed

[obsidian patio]

!faq gnbguide

[zinc orbit]

Audaces Fortuna Iuvat

http://bit.ly/XIV50GNB

[acoustic mantle]

What's the maximum of number of people allowed in a Eureka group?

[west spruce]

144?

[gleaming mist]

8 in a party, 144 in the instance

[languid valley]

what should i spend my allegory tomes on since they aren't valuable for the loot they provide

[faint flare]

Mats to sell

[languid valley]

any specific ones?

[faint flare]

Items above spirit ether

(including spirit ether)

Check your market for prices

[dark plover]

Can the fat moogle mount fly?

[faint flare]

All mounts can

[dark plover]

I guess just once you hit a certain level?

[faint flare]

!faq flying

[open ember]

!faq mount

[zinc orbit]

Flying FAQ

'How can I unlock Flying?'

Flying is unlocked through the collecting of a zone's Aether Currents, with every zone having ten 'green' Aether Currents found in the overworld and five 'yellow' Aether Currents obtained through the MSQ and side quests marked with a plus sign. Azys Lla is the only zone to not have any green Aether Currents. You must collect all Aether Currents in a zone to be able to fly.

Flying is unlocked in A Realm Reborn zones simply by completing the level 50 story quest 'The Ultimate Weapon'.

'Where can I find the green Aether Currents?'

Upon obtaining the Black Chocobo mount you are also given an Aether Compass, which is a key item you can use to locate the nearest non-quest Aether Current. This can be set to your Hotbar for ease of use. Alternatively, you can use this website to show the location of all Aether Currents for a zone. http://heavenswhere.com/

Mounts FAQ

'When can I get my first mount?'

The quest that allows you to use mounts, 'My Little Chocobo' is unlocked by completing the level 20 main story quest 'The Company You Keep'. The quest is located at the Grand Company base you chose and you'll need to buy the Chocobo Issuance from your Grand Company Quartermaster. You can get the 200 needed Grand Company seals by doing the main story quest that comes after 'The Company You Keep'.

'Are there any differences between mounts?'

Besides looks, all mounts are the same speed along with being able to fly. Some mounts allow multiple people to ride at once.

'Can I make my mount faster?'

Zones have one or two ranks of mount speed that increase the ground speed of mounts. The first rank comes from completing specific quests in the main scenario quests, with the second rank coming from Riding Maps which are bought with either Allied Seals, Centurio Seals, or Bicolor Gemstones. Mount Speed Boosts do not increase the flying speed of mounts.

[small marsh]

Being fat isn’t a disability in an mmo

[faint flare]

Flying is a per zone bases

[open ember]

ARR: get flying after finishing base ARR
HW to SHB: collect aether currents in each zone

[faint flare]

Arr via ultimate weapon story quests, expansion zones via collecting aether currents

[open ember]

Under Travel -> Aether Currents you can see your progress on specific zones

[dark plover]

Gottcha

[open ember]

You'll get the achievement "Freebird" and a notification stating you can now fly in that zone

[manic flare]

does SE generally put out the same events every year?

and if so, do we have an idea of when the next event is?

[twilit arch]

next holiday event is valentine's day

[open ember]

That being said I have a question regarding that

Will the Valentione's outfits from last year be added to the Mogstation?

[faint flare]

Yes

[whole wasp]

prob

[twilit arch]

mhm

[open ember]

Probably $5..? I haven't gotten those items on my two other characters

[faint flare]

Seasonal stuff always goes up on Mogstation after a yeae

[manic flare]

the valentines outfits are different every year?

[faint flare]

The rewards are different

[open ember]

Ah okay thank you

[twilit arch]

holiday rewards are always different

[faint flare]

Not always an outfit

[manic flare]

i thought this year and last year's xmas both had an outfit?

[twilit arch]

doesn't mean its always an outfit

[faint flare]

We had a mount for previous Christmas

And fireworks

[zinc orbit]

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[manic flare]

is the level 70 AST class quest ability critical for the AST's healing abilities?

[faint flare]

Sleeve draw?

[manic flare]

yes

[twilit arch]

sleeve draw doesn't do anything for healing

[faint flare]

Its important for divination

And abit of mana

[manic flare]

so it's more like a party buff move?

[faint flare]

No

[twilit arch]

that said its still an important skill because its an extra card to play that assures you a seal you don't have for divination

and gives mana

[faint flare]

It gives you a card with a seal you dont have

So your divinations are more reliable

Especially the one at the start of instances

[manic flare]

seal of arcana means card, right

[faint flare]

The seals on the card

That are used for divination

[twilit arch]

all the cards have 1 of 3 seals: celestial, sun, moon

[manic flare]

you aren't referring to these icons?

[twilit arch]

no

[manic flare]

by seal

[faint flare]

No

What those card give you

Look at your job gauge

When you draw a card

[twilit arch]

The seal is shown on the gauge when you draw a card

but basically balance/bole are sun, arrow/ewer are moon, and spear/spire are celestial

[calm quarry]

Hay guys, I'm on Cactuar and fixin to do my first Omega run - anyone wanna join?

[slate arrow]

Normal or savage

Normal, just use duty finder

[calm quarry]

Booty Finder taking long time

Despite being a tank >_>

[slate arrow]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Just wait.

[earnest pond]

is there a way to import hud settings from another character on a different datacenter?

[slate arrow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/9xid13/how_do_i_transfer_character_settings_to_another/

[glacial isle]

What level gear gives Battle/Fieldcraft Demimaterias I and II?

[polar badge]

6.0 will be my first live expansion. Will the new poetic gear then be i530 or i540?

[honest anvil]

530

[glacial isle]

Also, does the upgrades for the Hyperconductive Anima weapons (Crystal Sand one) stick around or is it only for this step

[twilit arch]

whatever stats you put on it during crystal sand stage is the type of stats the lux will have (but higher ofc)

[glacial isle]

So for a MCH what would the best be?

[twilit arch]

crit/dh

[glacial isle]

because until I buy the game the Lux Anima will be my BiS
Thx

[warped nest]

It still don't matter much, but hey, as long as you are having fun making it

[glacial isle]

Also: What level gear gives Battle/Fieldcraft Demimaterias I and II?

I need a lot of stuff for Crystal Sand and can't take the easy route of buying off the MB

[twilit arch]

you have crafterer at 60, no?

[warped nest]

If you even have the thought of getting Anima weapons for other jobs, I kinda wanna recommend you to go and grind crafters/gatherers

[glacial isle]

GSM and BSM

[visual eagle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0hvr95I5_0 what weapon is bro using here it looks insane anyone know

[glacial isle]

and WVR

[twilit arch]

farm yellow scrips

and exchange for blue scrip tokens

its a lot faster than getting demi

[warped nest]

Eureka weapon, Stormblood relic

(I'm guessing from the thumbnail)

[glacial isle]

Yes but I was also needing those for the Blue Scrip gear

[warped nest]

Grind more yellow scrip

[visual eagle]

i saw that weapon a long time ago and i could never figure out what it was

[glacial isle]

welp time to go broke again

[warped nest]

Problems that can be solved with more grinding are not problems

Just inconvenience with a pinch of annoyance

[glacial isle]

and i just finished this week's Zhloe's Deliveries too

[frozen girder]

Is it possible to have a macro auto start the next craft?

[twilit arch]

no

[frozen girder]

Is this not allowed?

[finite bronze]

Everything balanced buttt

Is their optimal class combos

[slate arrow]

@frozen girder yes, it's against ToS since it's playing the game for you

[whole wasp]

Thats basically botting

[frozen girder]

I see

I won't use it then >_>

[whole wasp]

I guess if you dont talk about it in game, nobody will realise

[frozen girder]

I'll just have my sister play for me

:3

Child labor > bots

[whole wasp]

Piloting is also against ToS hahahaa

But thats pretty minor

[frozen girder]

It's not piloting

[finite bronze]

Why play a game if u want someone else to

[cedar compass]

What dungeon would you run unsynched as level 80 514 ilvl DPS to farm GC seals

[finite bronze]

Play a boring mobile auto atk game

[frozen girder]

I dun wanna craft this thing 140 times

XD

[paper stag]

What quest has to be done to become a Dark Knight in the main story quest? Is it just hit the lv.50? Is there a specific end quest that allows me to switch? (For example, like do I need to just finish "The Ultimate Weapon"?)

[frozen girder]

You need to get to HW

And do like 3 quests in it

The questgiver is in Ishgard

[glacial isle]

Just arrive in Ishgard

Literally the moment you walk in you can do it

[whole wasp]

Whatever 80 dungeon you can run the fastest and greed all the loot.

[cedar compass]

Honestly crafting is basically doing robot work

[paper stag]

Ah rip, so i gotta do all of 2.1-2.55 too

[forest sage]

yeah

takes a long time to unlock HW classes

[cedar compass]

I'm this game

[paper stag]

Well Ty xD

[forest sage]

you could unlock SB classes before HW classes on a preferred server pretty easily

since those only require you hit 60

[finite bronze]

Everything balanced buttt

Is their optimal class combos

Like scholor arch

[dense hound]

Not really..?

[finite bronze]

I heard arch Scolari good together

[forest sage]

not since ShB

I mean it's not worse, it's just not better

[whole wasp]

All explicit job synergies like slash resistance down are removed in 5.0

[forest sage]

the only "combo" that comes to mind would be DNC/MNK since they give MNK crit

[faint flare]

Well the only real "combo" comp is the Crit comp, with Scholar, Dragoon and Bonus Dancer for one guy

[forest sage]

yeah but the only DPS who still benefits from crit more than others would be MNK

[whole wasp]

Bard? Nowait its just proc chance now right

[cedar compass]

No

Bard proc chance is static

[faint flare]

Flat chance

We aint stormblood

[forest sage]

since you get a mantra for every crit, but I don't know how much dmg you really gain, since you also have a 100%crit skill and you have to fit the punches

[cedar compass]

I wish I was here in stormblood

[gloomy mortar]

I added Eat Apple emote but can’t find the category it’s under. Not in general or special

[cedar compass]

And had my turbo railgun bard

[forest sage]

uh not mantra, whatever stacks are called

[faint flare]

Itd like the bottom of general

[cedar compass]

Instead of my incel 2nd bottom DPS bard

[faint flare]

Or close to the bottom

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[glacial isle]

Is there a way to turn off the glow in gpose?

[twilit arch]

there should be an option at the top of the gpose window i think to turn off battle effects

[glacial isle]

No, "Toggle Battle Effects" isn't doing it

[frozen girder]

Any reason to try and make that HQ?

[twilit arch]

no

only other thing i can think of is to turn off battle effects in the config settings, can't mess around in gpose right now myself to figure it out

[glacial isle]

config?

[open ember]

If you give me 5 min to log on I can look

[glacial isle]

ok

[open ember]

There's a way to do it

[whole wasp]

Not really.

[novel sonnet]

hey just curious is there any way to see how long until certain FATE's appear? trying to do one for "The Hunt" quest killing chupacabra and i have been waiting about 10min and its not spawning

[twilit arch]

no, the best you can do is clear fates in the zone so that it has "room" to spawn as there can only be so many fates active at one time

[novel sonnet]

thats what i figured but wasn't sure

tyvm

[leaden ginkgo]

That FATE specifically requires you to finish another FATE

I forgot which one tho, hold on let me check

[twilit arch]

The Boy Who Cried Jackal

is the pre-req fate

[open ember]

try exiting gpose with the 6th icon off and then open gpose again

[novel sonnet]

ahhh kk tyvm

[open ember]

see if that works

[glacial isle]

one sec

[leaden ginkgo]

Yes, that’s the one, ty

[novel sonnet]

yea, the boy who cried jackal isn't spawning either haha i cleared out the map 😛 ill google it a bit more thanks though

[leaden ginkgo]

Just hang out at 17x 9y and it’ll eventually spawn

[novel sonnet]

haha im impatienttt lol jks

ty for the help

[twilit arch]

ok since i can mess around in-game finally, doesn't seem like you can turn disable the casting animation spell effects...thing. even with battle effects off in the character config settings it still shows the glow no matter what

[open ember]

yeah thats what i was looking at

not all battle effects can be turned off

[oak radish]

do they turn off for a split second when you move the camera? thats what happens to me i just have to take screenshots while wiggling the camera

[twilit arch]

they do, yes

[glacial isle]

Yeah but I was hoping to turn it off permanently so I could take a good pic

[oak radish]

yeah its weird that htey turn of when you move the camera but theres no setting for it specifically

[open ember]

i tried with SCH's broil and unfortunately, i still saw some battle effects

[glacial isle]

tbh i only asked because that pose and glam made me think of ||Jojo|| for some reason

[novel sonnet]

is there a way to show (mining/botan) locations on the bigger minimap?

[faint flare]

No, only small

[novel sonnet]

it would also be nice if when you opened the map to view area's it showed what quests are available instead of having to TP to the location to view

[hollow axle]

noob question, how do I become a bard. I am a level 30 archer, but is there a quest I have to complete or something?

[twilit arch]

!faq job

[zinc orbit]

How do I unlock my job?

To unlock your class' job you need to be level 30, complete all of your class quests and the main scenario quest 'Sylph Management' (lvl 20 quest) to be able to pick up your job unlock quest. Once you've done the initial unlock quest, you will be given a soul crystal which you must equip to become your class' job.

[hollow axle]

Thanks

[novel sonnet]

seeing as how you had to do the MS quests for everything im assuming yes but i dont know lol

[twilit arch]

You can unlock the 8 and 24mans when you beat shadowbringers

but you're going to need to complete 5.3 to unlock the final raid tier for the 8 man raids

and going to have to complete msq to unlock most of the lvl 80 dungeons

[loud ether]

Yo I am on trial account and near 300000 gil threshold. What can I buy to get rid of all the gill?

[forest sage]

can you buy anything as trial? thought you couldn't use mb

[flint bay]

they're called vendors

[novel sonnet]

i need moneis for a house lol

[forest sage]

if you mean from vendors and stuff not too sure there's anything worth it, I think I've seen people say it's normal for trial to just get gold capped

[faint flare]

Arr Beast tribe vendors

Have some stuff for a good chunk of gil

[forest sage]

you could buy materials and stuff to lvl crafting

although kinda need beast tribe vendors to get the better stuff

[novel sonnet]

just out of curiosity, my crafters are almost all around lvl 50, is it true i wont see much of a return until mid 65 - 70ish level?

[warped nest]

Nah

[tropic notch]

Crafting drains your pockets

[forest sage]

you can make money at any lvl, just need to find what sells

[warped nest]

What Pyros said

You need to study the market

[forest sage]

I honestly have no idea what sells right now, I know Natron sold a ton early on

[warped nest]

And figure out what people need, but don't want to spend time on

[forest sage]

but since it was replaced by a higher tier Natron it probably doesn't naymore, maybe?

[warped nest]

Unless your world is filled with all max level crafters

Some crafters out there are still leveling

[forest sage]

even then no one bothers making low lvl stuff usually

[novel sonnet]

i been trying out flipping MB stuff, but its about 50/50 sometimes i win sometimes i lose but im not a scalper, ill find something underpriced and post it for just lower then the lowest bid

[warped nest]

And are probably willing to spend Gil to save time

Stuffs (from a different crafting class) that are used in popular recipes can always sell

[lament basalt]

how long does it take to level if you only tank dungeons

[warped nest]

Wdym by "only tank dungeons"

[lament basalt]

you get xp bonus when tanking sometimes right?

[warped nest]

Those are Adventurer In Need bonus, they are only given out when you go with Duty Roulette (you should only do Duty Roulette once per day for the daily exp bonus, daily exp bonus is not adventurer in Need bonus), and they are like a droplet of exp in a bowl of soup

And they are never worth it at their own

[wheat plume]

lvl 60 DRG should use aoe Doom Spike with 2 mobs, or just 3+ ?

[warped nest]

!action Doom Spike

[zinc orbit]

**Doom Spike** : lvl 40 DRG (2.5 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 170 to all enemies in a straight line before you.

Powered by XIVAPI

[wheat plume]

yeah, but only 3 or more, or with 2 enemies is ok to use too? at lvl 60

[faint flare]

Within doubt just do 3+

[warped nest]

Too close to call

[wheat plume]

thxs

[faint flare]

Well yeah its 3+

At 2 you alternate with Chaos thrusts

On both targets

[wheat plume]

in adds inside boss fight, also 3+ ?

[warped nest]

Assuming both enemies can out last Chaos Thrust

[faint flare]

Its whenever there's 3 or more

[warped nest]

!action Chaos Thrust

[zinc orbit]

**Chaos Thrust** : lvl 50 LNC DRG (2.5 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 100.
140 when executed from a target's rear.
Combo Action: Disembowel
Combo Potency: 290
Rear Combo Potency: 330
Combo Bonus: Damage over time
Potency: 50
Duration: 24s
Combo Bonus: Grants Enhanced Wheeling Thrust if under the effect of

Powered by XIVAPI

[novel sonnet]

ok so im kinda new to the whole understanding how the mechanics of items and such work but I don't understand where it says it's in a fate or how to find it

this is all it shows and says "area" they are in

[warped nest]

@lament basalt all these said, from level 30+ onward, experience earned from dungeons become pretty consistent in proportion to your level. It works out to "7 runs of the highest level dungeon you can get into, will work out to around 2 level". Please take note that dungeons that are exactly level 50, 60, and 80 are the exception, they were the endgame dungeons in their respective expansion, so their exp yield is not very good.

@novel sonnet they have multiple spawn point in that region

You can just fly around in a loop to look out for them

Even if someone else killed them, they will respawn in a few minutes (on one of the spawn points)

Also, if that's console game wiki

[novel sonnet]

@warped nest i understand that, but im just curious as how to justify from the 2nd image where / how it says its a fate / fate name

[warped nest]

Please take note that it is manually maintained

[novel sonnet]

like in the "hunter's log" it tells you area/ if its a dungeon instance or not

[warped nest]

The daily/weekly hunt marks you get from your GC will not make you hunt stuff from dungeons or fates

It is always open maps

Regarding how to tell if a mob is dungeon mob or open map mob, I will say, I actually don't know

[novel sonnet]

I just got promoted to be able to take on hunt marks and all the single enemy bills are fate it seems, i was just gurious haha

i was just curious as to if there was a way to see in depth on hunt bills, its not a big issue since i can google everything

[warped nest]

Some of them might show up on fates, but fates are definitely not the only way to find them

[forest sage]

the ARR marks have FATEs on them though

they're fucking awful

for ARR I would only do the weekly B rank, the others give shit xp, shit seals and are annoying

for HW+, the mob killing ones are nice, good xp and decent centurios

[warped nest]

Almost everything is a bit annoying or whacky in ARR

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[warped nest]

Apologies, I don't remember how it worked for ARR stuff

[stable herald]

Does anyone have experience using the teamcraft desktop program?
When the alarm is highlighted as green, that means the node is available, yes?

[whole wasp]

Yes

[pearl cedar]

OKAY I GOT THE LVL 15 QUEST NOW WHAT

[whole wasp]

Now you should unlock airship travel shortly

Remember to attune to aetherytes so you can just teleport there next time.

[pearl cedar]

and i can go to lominsa

right right

should i just keep following the main quest

[whole wasp]

Yes

[pearl cedar]

POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG

[whole wasp]

is the most important quest

unlocks stuff

for lore and giggles

[pearl cedar]

oke!! tysm

i jus want rogue

[whole wasp]

Rogue guild next to fisher's guild. HF!

[dense hound]

Do remember to do your job quests as well. They’re very very important.

[pearl cedar]

its locked ?

job quests ??

whwhbf

[whole wasp]

Talk to the guy outside

[pearl cedar]

yeh he's being mean to me :<

[whole wasp]

You gotta do your class quest to lvl 10 to unlock changing jobs

[pearl cedar]

class quest........

[whole wasp]

.....

[pearl cedar]

im hopeless

.

[whole wasp]

Time to take that airship back to ul'dah

[pearl cedar]

NOOOOOOOOO

;;

PLS

I JUST GOT HERE

[whole wasp]

Talk to the lalafell brothers to do your THM quest

You started as THM right?

[pearl cedar]

thm..?

[whole wasp]

Thaumaturge

[pearl cedar]

wat

[whole wasp]

Errr. I cant remember what you started as

[pearl cedar]

i started out as lancer

[whole wasp]

Oh derp

[pearl cedar]

gridania

?

[whole wasp]

Time to go back to gridania

[pearl cedar]

aiyaa

[whole wasp]

And do your lancer class quest

[pearl cedar]

but the lil lance thing has 17 next to it

?

is dat not the right thing..

oh

thats my level

[whole wasp]

There should be a small under your on the top left

Click that and it'll tell you where to do your class quest

[pearl cedar]

ohh..

you are the best ty

i am literally hopeless without u

[whole wasp]

Np. GL!

[pearl cedar]

i will be back dw

dont miss me too much

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[drifting timber]

is having all DoH or DoL jobs maxed out worth all the effort at all?

effort and the netflix subscription

[gloomy ice]

It’s recommended to do so in fact. Even Yoshida says it’s best to level all of them at once if possible.

[warped nest]

You either don't touch em

Or do them all

Don't do just one DoH, you will never recoup the cost

[gloomy ice]

A little more detail, though, they all sort of feed into each other. There are all sorts of components and intermediary crafts that some classes have to make for others. As an example, blacksmiths turn iron ore into raw iron into rivets which carpenters use for certain crafts of their own.

[warped nest]

DoL, you might be able to, but it will be challenging

[gloomy ice]

There are many many more instances of classes making things that others need and it’s much more cost effective to simply level all of them simultaneously

[abstract vapor]

what an easy dps job that easy to learn trying to find another dps cause I suck at blm and want to try new one

[warped nest]

... Dancer maybe?

[abstract vapor]

how about Samurai

[warped nest]

Samurai has 3 single target combo path, and 2 AOE combo

Each combo path grants you a unique seal.

You can spent different amount of seal to perform a draw attack

1 seal is a potent damage over time attack

2 seal is aoe

[gloomy ice]

Pretty easy to pick up imo. Squeezing as much damage out as possible takes a bit of effort but picking it up is pretty simple.

[warped nest]

3 seal is a damaging single target attack

And this is level 50 starting samurai

[abstract vapor]

I'll try dancer and samurai hopefully I dont suck like I suck at blm xD

[warped nest]

Level 52 samurai gains a gauge, you can spent gauge for buff or damage. At level 62, you gain gauge at a much rapid rate

Dancer is probably the easiest to pick up

[marble drift]

hit the shiny button

is dancer.jpg

[warped nest]

Because for most part it is "press the button with yellow line"

There are a lot of nuances and skill priorities at high level, but in terms of skill floor, dancer might be one of the lowest

[abstract vapor]

hmmmm maybe it will help me learn when to hit buttons I forget to hit Despair and xeno so much lol trying to dogge attacks

[warped nest]

That sounds more like a practice thing to me, but I am not here to convince you NOT to branch out

[abstract vapor]

adhd wont stay put wanna move all the time

[warped nest]

Who knows, maybe after mastering a few other jobs, you might click with BLM

Seeing that both Samurai and Dancer start out as high level jobs

I would recommend looking up for a guide

Look for wesk alber on YouTube

This player makes pick up guide for jobs

[abstract vapor]

I'll look at them tomorrow after my morning class ... thanks a lot

[warped nest]

Good luck, and have fun

[abstract vapor]

you too

[whole wasp]

Red mage also considered one of the easiest jobs. O7

[warped nest]

Ahhh, good choice

[abstract vapor]

can I be mobile too?

[warped nest]

Red Mage is weird

[whole wasp]

Yup. Flippy flippt like dragoon

Every other cast is instant

[warped nest]

In terms of mobility

[marble drift]

you can like move for a bit every other cast.

[warped nest]

Only your melee phase gives you a continuous window of mobility

[abstract vapor]

dragoon look cool but I'm afraid it would be hard to get into

[marble drift]

but. still caster

gotta plant feet to make spell

[warped nest]

Imo, all of them are not hard to learn

[whole wasp]

Dragoon considered easiest melee too but its still a melee

So some levels of positional needed

[marble drift]

Real? dragoon over samurai? I guess im bias'd

samurai seems super smooth brain to me now I suppose

[warped nest]

Samurai has less positional and more juggling

Dragon has a tad more positional, but it has less combo path

[whole wasp]

I think its because of sticker management

Can absolutely freestyle SAM tho.

[abstract vapor]

I'll try all of them at some point

[marble drift]

freestyle sam

[abstract vapor]

smashy sam

[marble drift]

Freestyle sam is just bad. I've seen some shockers in my time

like. 5+ ranged attacks back to back

[abstract vapor]

well you might run into me sometime soon and see someone break the 5+ record

[marble drift]

You're on NA. maximum doubt.

[dire prawn]

Why does being on NA constitute maximum doubt 🤔

[warped nest]

Someone could be worse

[marble drift]

because im on JP.

we don't share instance groups

[warped nest]

Ahh, that

[dire prawn]

Oh

[marble drift]

ohyeah NA sucks tho.

:3

[dire prawn]

[abstract vapor]

NA we suck at everything

[marble drift]

Bruh my home server is Tonberry

we have all the raiders AND all the crafters

[dire prawn]

You're not wrong about that Sam

[marble drift]

its nuts here

[abstract vapor]

Why is everyone crazy good on JP servers

[marble drift]

dedication and mentality

We tend to prefer safe strats

which get kills

NA always goes for uptime

[abstract vapor]

Sweaty players everywhere 😂

[warped nest]

you need uptime because you churn out enough Dps without it

[marble drift]

if that were true. why does JP get more kills?

wait. this is offtopic as fuck. truce?

[warped nest]

I feel that JP players as a whole has more dedication, and actually knows their own limit and what they should go for (practice, prog, etc)

This is coming from playing Monster Hunter

Yeah, off topic

So, imma stop

[marble drift]

We also don't communicate a ton. Expectation to just buckle down and perform

trumps callouts or "whose going where" or anything

[abstract vapor]

I’d love to continue but it’s bed time thanks guys

[marble drift]

you get a macro posted. people call their positions, then you tackle the fight

[open ember]

uh are crystal shard plants grown the same way as regular seeds

and do you need fertilizer for them

[slate arrow]

[slate arrow]

No

Only think that affects shard production is soil afaik

You want shroud grade 3 iirc?

[open ember]

oh okay cool

[slate arrow]

Do double check on the ffxiv gardening website

Their resources are much more in depth

[open ember]

now are those planted in planters or can do a planters bed outside

[slate arrow]

both

They don't crossbreed but both are fine

[open ember]

cool ty!

[cedar compass]

how much of a grind are the anima / zodiac weapons?

like how many hrs

[whole wasp]

Many many hours

[slate arrow]

zodiac? Took me about 4 days straight at around 5-6 hours a day with maxed Poetics.

[whole wasp]

Zodiac has FATE RNG

[slate arrow]

Anima doesn't take as long, assuming you've been stocking up on the materials for an anima weapon

[whole wasp]

Anima has light RNG and also needs alot of poetic currency

[cedar compass]

i have poetics capped atm

what do i buy xD since im gonna do roulettes

[whole wasp]

Cant buy it until that step

Unless you did it before

[golden dagger]

Will different classes be able to utilize different configurations?

[whole wasp]

Configurations?

[golden dagger]

i want to try healer but i usually play on mkb I want to use controller for healer

[slate arrow]

you can yes

[whole wasp]

Sure.

[slate arrow]

You'll just have to manually toggle it in character settings

[golden dagger]

it wont mess up my stuff for my other classes?

[slate arrow]

shouldn't

Assuming your shared hotbars and cross hot bars are set up right

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[cedar compass]

when will they add new steps to the resistance weapons?

though idk if really want to do it. The bard relic looks awful

[potent shale]

can you actually get all crafters to specialist????

[cedar compass]

no

you can have 3 at a time

and can change weekly

[slate arrow]

@cedar compass 5.45

[cedar compass]

thats like next patch right

[slate arrow]

No

That's 5.41

wait

yes, you're right

[cedar compass]

we are on 5.41 lol

what ilvl do you think theyll be

525?

[slate arrow]

Maybe 530

Since last relic update brought it all the way to 500

[cedar compass]

that would make the normal raid weapon kinda obsolete

[slate arrow]

There's no normal raid weapon tho

[cedar compass]

yes there is

[slate arrow]

There's only tome, crafted, and savage

[cedar compass]

well i mean tome

but you get it by doing the normal raid 7 weeks

or getting lucky on E10? i think

[slate arrow]

It'll be nerfed down to 4 when 5.45 comes out

Or well, around that time

[cedar compass]

unlucky that i cba to do the normal raids every week before knowing that tbh

[slate arrow]

We're still a few months out

[cedar compass]

i'll probably get the edernmorn weapon b4 that tbh

now that i got a static

im just so unlucky with rolls

[dire prawn]

I have just one question

Should I get into FFXIV right now 🤔

[cedar compass]

what do you mean

[dire prawn]

I mean I've literally never heard of this game until two days ago when I saw banner ads with Miqo'te girls on them

[slate arrow]

I'll give you a better question. Why not?

[dire prawn]

True

[slate arrow]

It's probably the best story based mmorpg in the market currently

[cedar compass]

there's a free trial thats quite long

honestly

[slate arrow]

That too.

[cedar compass]

depends what do you want?

do you like

[slate arrow]

Free trial all the way through the first expansion and up to level 60

[cedar compass]

even know what an MMO is

we have no context

so can't really say

[dire prawn]

I've played just a bit of Guild Wars 2 and on PS4 I play Neverwinter

So I kind of know what an MMO is

[cedar compass]

do you care about story in games?

[slate arrow]

To set your expectations, this is a Final Fantasy game first and MMO second. There's a lot of crossover between the two but the game is mainly based around your character and the group of people who come to support your character through the story.

Also, you can't skip the story without paying

And you have to play the story to access the endgame.

[cedar compass]

why do people keep saying that

FFXIV quite literally the only MMO with a raiding scene other than wow

if you dont care about the story you skip it and thats it

you still get an ungodly amount of content

[agile laurel]

you still have to buy past it or play through it

they're not incorrect

literally every content in the game is behind some manner of story unlock

[warped nest]

I don't know if any MMO let you hop into endgame right away, but I didn't play enough to tell

[cedar compass]

yeah i mean

now wow got much faster but it was also a 100+ hr grind

to get to endgame

if you skip story and speed through msq in FFXIV its not much longer than that

i mean skip cutscenes*

[warped nest]

I am fairly sure that it will be longer than 100 hours

[cedar compass]

well, maybe 200 max

[agile laurel]

Basically. XIV is more story focused than some other MMOs

There is a lot of it

[dire prawn]

I would say that based on the MMOs or MMO like games I have played that I don't have any experience with a game like FFXIV based on what I did see from watching like two or three videos on YT just a minute ago

[cedar compass]

well

what interests you about it?

[agile laurel]

I mean, the free trial is very extensive, there's 100 hours of content in it alone easily

[dire prawn]

I mean

[agile laurel]

you could play the free trial and by the time you finish it I'd be shocked if you're still in two minds whether to buy the game or not

[dire prawn]

If I'm being completely honest, the only thing that drew my attention before I watched the couple videos on youtube was cute cat girls

[agile laurel]

yup

they're here

[marble drift]

I'd be lying if I said you were the only one

[agile laurel]

well catgirls at least

some of them are cute

[dire prawn]

That's literally all the banner ads on the site I was looking at showed was female Miqo'te

[marble drift]

SquareEnix know their audience.

[cedar compass]

only cute catgirl

[vernal urchin]

i got into the game because my friends spent so much time playing it

[vernal urchin]

hell yeah she's fine as hell

[cedar compass]

rest of them are for pervs who are into anime catgirls lol

[dire prawn]

Now with that being said I do have an actual question before I go to buy this game and that's if I can transfer characters between PC and PS4, since one of the videos mentioned that the game is completely cross-platform across PC/Mac/PS4

[agile laurel]

yes and no

[cedar compass]

youd need to buy it twice

[agile laurel]

it is crossplay for people on each platform, but

[cedar compass]

but your account is shared

[agile laurel]

that. yep

the licenses are completely unique

despite accounts being available on any platform

[dire prawn]

So I'd have to buy the actual game twice, but I could play my character(s) on either platform?

[agile laurel]

yep

[dire prawn]

Ohh

pog

Alright then, another question

What does a Dancer do

Like

[cedar compass]

support ranged dps

[vernal urchin]

dancer is ranged physical dps

[cedar compass]

you buff

[dire prawn]

Ginger Prime I think was mentioned it's like the Archer/Bard

[warped nest]

Throw Chakram to hit stuff

Dance to buff

[dire prawn]

Wait those were Chakrams the Dancer was holding???

[warped nest]

Yeah

[dire prawn]

That makes a hell of a lot more sense then

[vernal urchin]

the bladed discs, yes

[slate arrow]

To be clear, it's a lower end DPS which provides a near permanent 5% (I think) damage buff on both yourself and one target.

[dire prawn]

I was like, how is this anything like an Archer when they're holding bladed discs???

[warped nest]

Role

Like their categorization in a party

[cedar compass]

you cant be a dancer though

[dire prawn]

I mean

[cedar compass]

until you reach level 60

[golden dagger]

for blue items do i only sell them or is there anyhthing else I can do?

[dire prawn]

I haven't even bought FFXIV so I can't be anything

[warped nest]

Dancer is like Bard and machinist in that all three of them can move while using weaponskill, and they don't have cast time

Ranged physical

[vernal urchin]

machinist shoot gun, bard shoot arrow, dancer throw frisbee

[warped nest]

Weaponskill is Physical

[cedar compass]

mch is the selfish ranged physical

and both DNC and bard are support

[dire prawn]

So is the progression then like Archer -> Bard -> Machinist -> Dancer? Or can I stop at Bard or Machinist

[agile laurel]

no

[warped nest]

No

[dire prawn]

🤔

[warped nest]

They are separated

[cedar compass]

if youre not gonna do endgame raiding literally doesnt matter what you play

[vernal urchin]

each are their own seperate thing

[agile laurel]

Only classes/jobs from ARR follow the weird class > job convention

[cedar compass]

you can spam 1 button and win every other content

[slate arrow]

You can play every job on the same character

[agile laurel]

So only Archer > Bard at 30

[dire prawn]

Oh they're completely separate from each other?

[warped nest]

!whoclasses @warped nest

[slate arrow]

!whoami

[zinc orbit]

Disciples of War for Mikoto Kamijou

Paladin

80

Warrior

80

Dark Knight

80

Gunbreaker

80

Monk

74

Dragoon

80

Ninja

80

Samurai

80

White Mage

80

Scholar

80

Astrologian

80

Bard

80

Machinist

73

Dancer

80

Black Mage

80

Summoner

80

Red Mage

80

Blue Mage (Limited Job)

51

[warped nest]

Oops

[slate arrow]

refer to that

[agile laurel]

51? tch.

[vernal urchin]

you don't need to level archer/bard or machinist to play dancer

[warped nest]

All jobs one character

[dire prawn]

Ohh

[warped nest]

BLU Mage is basically a mini game

[stable herald]

is there an optimal method for yellow scrip farming?

[slate arrow]

rarefied syrup

[vernal urchin]

but they are within the same kind of "group" in that they're all ranged and non-magic casting

[warped nest]

@dire prawn there is a lot of minor inconsistency here and there in XIV

[agile laurel]

and this isn't quite true in practice, you'll just be kicked out of whatever for being a deadweight

[dire prawn]

So Archer evolves into Bard but Machinist and Dancer are two completely separate classes then

[agile laurel]

Yep

[slate arrow]

ges

[cedar compass]

lol not true

[slate arrow]

@cedar compass @agile laurel wrong chatroom you two

[agile laurel]

i'm saying nothing

[warped nest]

To be accurate, Machinist and Dancer are Jobs

[agile laurel]

just addressing a point

[warped nest]

ARR Classes becomes Jobs, but in most discussions, class and job can be used interchangeably

[cedar compass]

wut.

[warped nest]

Expansion Jobs are just standalone Jobs, that doesn't have a base class

[dire prawn]

Oh I see how it is

So you can just learn them then?

[agile laurel]

Yeah, it's important to know the difference but in practice classes are such a little aspect of the game it's fine to use it as jargon

[warped nest]

Yeah

[cedar compass]

I dont even know why classes are a thing.

[agile laurel]

Honestly just an aspect of ARR design that was left behind

[cedar compass]

tbh

[slate arrow]

Antiquated relic of 1.0 they can't quite fully remove without breaking something

[warped nest]

Classes becoming Job is a relic from a forgetten past

[vernal urchin]

ffxiv in 2013 and ffxiv now are different beasts

[dire prawn]

Wait so how can you have one character play every class 🤔

[cedar compass]

2,0 does not share code with 1.0

[slate arrow]

Yes

[vernal urchin]

you can just change jobs

[slate arrow]

But it does share character data

[warped nest]

@dire prawn think of them as weapon proficiency in other games

[simple shore]

You just change what weapon you have on, and it changes what class/job you are.

[dire prawn]

Ohh

So kind of like ESO where I can have different skills based on what weapon I'm actually wielding

[slate arrow]

yes but to a much more extreme extent

[cedar compass]

not exactly the same

[warped nest]

A reminder that all your stat comes from your gear

[simple shore]

In practice its done via gearset buttons, but the actual trigger is the weapon.

[cedar compass]

instead of in wow loging out and changing character

you change weapon

and your hotbar etc changes acordingly

[warped nest]

You don't earn stat from leveling btw

[dire prawn]

So is there even a reason to have multiple characters then 🤔

[simple shore]

Not really

[cedar compass]

no

[warped nest]

Very few

[slate arrow]

not really yeah

[simple shore]

the only reason to have alts is if you wanna run savage/ult more than once a week

which is like

the 1% of the 1% who want to do that

lol

[warped nest]

Or have friends in different DC

[cedar compass]

(i do that but i story skipped the 2nd char)

[warped nest]

Or genuinely have nothing better to do

[cedar compass]

i cant imagine going through ARR ever again

and i hate myself a lot

[warped nest]

Plus you can relive story with NG

[simple shore]

I've done it twice now. Never again.

[warped nest]

Unless you want to relive the cutscene with a cuter character

[stable herald]

@slate arrow So syrup is for yellow. What should i go for, for white?

[dire prawn]

Both beginner's guide videos I've watched so far said that ARR is boring as all hell sometimes but once you make it into Hearthsward or whatever the first expansion is that's where the real fun of FFXIV begins

[slate arrow]

@stable herald lemonade

[simple shore]

tbh im not a fan of syrup for yellow

[warped nest]

ARR is/was not well paced

And it need to do a lot of world building

[slate arrow]

@dire prawn ARR suffered from being Old but 5.3 did trim a bit of fat and filler from the quests

[stable herald]

Ah. This is also farming the mats, as well, yes?

[cedar compass]

if you can spare the cash you could story skip only ARR, then watch a youtube video recap

[vernal urchin]

it takes a while to get going but it's worth doing in the end because it lays the foundation for the rest of the story

[stable herald]

Im honestly not sure how to get enough slithersand

[simple shore]

I feel espresso is better for yellow scrips unless you're sitting on a giant pile of gemstones

[warped nest]

But ARR is the starting point and the backbone of XIV story/stories

[cedar compass]

why? you just use retainers to get your cubus flesh

[slate arrow]

@stable herald either yellow scrip spam or waiting out the daily resets on dwarves

[stable herald]

Oh goodness

[slate arrow]

eeeeyup

prepare to suffer

[stable herald]

i've sunk.. quite a lotta gil already into this

[simple shore]

Still alot of cubus flesh. Takes a long time if you need alot.

[stable herald]

[cedar compass]

is espresso entirely gatherable?

[simple shore]

Yeah

[slate arrow]

yes

[simple shore]

So you can turn it around faster

[dire prawn]

So the answer I'm seeing is don't skip ARR for my first ever playthrough 🤔

[cedar compass]

i guess if you need scrip NOW then sure

[dire prawn]

But maybe skip it for alt chars if I make any

[cedar compass]

but i guess if yxou reset retainers several times a day etc in preparation

[vernal urchin]

i personally wouldn't recommend skipping any story for a first playthrough

[stable herald]

hmm.. i have 60 dwarven currency. So i suppose i need to farm a bit

[cedar compass]

probably syrup is the best

[stable herald]

not TOO crazy. Luckily

[vernal urchin]

but yeah if you ever end up doing an alt, def buy a skip lol

[simple shore]

Absolutely not, dont skip ARR your first time, you'll just be very confused and asking questions here for the rest of the time in the game

[cedar compass]

Eh

[dire prawn]

@simple shore

[stable herald]

sublimes are gonna kill me

[cedar compass]

ill be honest

ive gotten a lot of people into FFXIV

or at least try

EVERY ONE OF THEM who didnt skip ARR quit

[warped nest]

Just skip the parts where you are helping the local villagers

[cedar compass]

and the ones who bought an ARR story skip are still playing

so...

[simple shore]

Sublimes are easy. Just run your Expert/80 roulettes every day and greed everything and desynth.

[cedar compass]

this was before the story prune mind you

[simple shore]

I havent actually bought a sublime with scrips in forever

[cedar compass]

but that doesnt change much imo anyway

[agile laurel]

coincidence correlation. I found ARR easy to get through once I got through the very first slump

[slate arrow]

@stable herald with sublimes Im just sitting on a massive pile from desynthing expert roulette dungeon gear

[dire prawn]

What's the magic class that starts with a T

[slate arrow]

@dire prawn thaumaturgy

[dire prawn]

Yeah that one

[vernal urchin]

i had no trouble going through ARR, but this was also my first time playing an MMO besides runescape so i was enjoying the learning experience

[agile laurel]

or black mage, using its proper term

[simple shore]

ARR really does not take that long as long as you tell them to skip all sidequests. Sidequests are what make people quit imo.

[leaden ginkgo]

How do I unlock Limsa levequests ?

[slate arrow]

@leaden ginkgo Limsa adventures guild

[cedar compass]

you clearly dont remember right

its longer than any expansion

and most of it is filler

[stable herald]

i think i've sunk.. about half a mil so far

[dire prawn]

Alright

[slate arrow]

#general-discussion y'all

[dire prawn]

I've got both my laptop and my PS4

Which one should I buy FFXIV on 🤔

[slate arrow]

neither, play the free trial first.

[cedar compass]

try the trial

especially on laptop

to see if it runs well

[simple shore]

Trial is ridiculously good in FF14 so no reason not to use it first.

[leaden ginkgo]

I went there but there is no (+) icon

[dire prawn]

Can I do the trial without spending $20 on Steam

[slate arrow]

yes

[agile laurel]

there's a benchmark program too fyi so if you wanted to download trial on PC, you could just get benchmark on laptop to verify

[whole wasp]

Yes

[simple shore]

Trial is literally free

[slate arrow]

Should be listed as a demo

[simple shore]

Also

[cedar compass]

why couldnt you

[dire prawn]

Oh as a demo

[simple shore]

Since you just mentioned that....

[dire prawn]

I'ma go find it then

[simple shore]

Can i offer some advice?

Dont use Steam

It causes nothing but headaches

[cedar compass]

true

i regret buying it on steam

[dire prawn]

And then I misclick and open Battlenet instead

[slate arrow]

Ah yeah the steam system is sketchy

[cedar compass]

also

[dire prawn]

Oh so where should I grab it from then?

[cedar compass]

the game has been on sale

like the expansions

[simple shore]

Like, Steam itself is fine. Im just saying dont use Steam for FF14.

[cedar compass]

on SE store

[slate arrow]

tl;dr if you use steam it takes over your PC slot and you have to buy future expansions from steam

[cedar compass]

not available gor steam players

unlucky

[slate arrow]

!faq freetrial

[zinc orbit]

Free Trial Limitations

Limitation details
Download

[slate arrow]

Here's the free trial link

[dire prawn]

ty

[slate arrow]

Besides a money limit and social limitations its essentially the full game

[cedar compass]

social limitations?

oh you cant join an fc right

[dire prawn]

Yeah

Can't trade items and a couple other things

And a limit of like 30k in-game currency I think is what it was

[slate arrow]

300k but yeah

[dire prawn]

Oh 300k

I misread it then

[slate arrow]

I don't remember but there's a guide on how to smartly spend your money while under the free trial so you don't overcap

I think.

[dire prawn]

I downloaded the free trial thing and now it's saying that I have to do two steps but I can't actually click on either one 🤔

Oh

It's just being slow

Never mind

[slate arrow]

You'll need an Square Enix Account set up with Mogstation yeah

It's a ~2011 era launcher, it still uses Internet Explorer lmao

[dire prawn]

EW

EEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWW

[slate arrow]

It's tried and true, don't Ewwww it too much.

[vernal urchin]

i remember i had an issue a while ago where the launcher stopped working and the solution was to update internet explorer lol

[slate arrow]

They had to make it back when 1.0 was being a big old bellyflop

And well, don't fix what ain't broke (yet)

[dire prawn]

I'm going to assume 1.0 is the 2010 release that was a complete failure

[slate arrow]

how'd you know???

(yes. Yes it was.)

[dire prawn]

YouTube video talking about whether or not FFXIV was worth playing in 2021 told me

[slate arrow]

(if you're interested, Noclip did a documentary on how 1.0 trainwrecked and how Yoshi-P our lord and savior came in and helped everyone get back on track and fixed it.)

[dire prawn]

Said that it originally released in 2010 but failed so bad it wasn't even funny so they rebuilt the game from scratch and released what y'all are calling ARR in 2014

[warped nest]

Industrial, I hate you. I was typing "if you are interested"

And you posted a paragraph

[slate arrow]

2fast2quick

[warped nest]

Seriously, watch the documentary

It is a good video game documentary

[novel sonnet]

just curiosity sake which Aetheryte crystal is closest to a MB?

[warped nest]

Limsa Lominsa

[slate arrow]

Limsa

[simple shore]

I've watched that thing multiple times and it never stops being good for another watch.

[novel sonnet]

i figured so just such bad loading lag lol

[warped nest]

Like 5 steps away, if you spawn on the west side of the crystal

[slate arrow]

Every other city state literally has it beyond a loading zone

[dire prawn]

I uhh... might need to update IE

brb

[slate arrow]

F

[vernal urchin]

everyone hangs out in limsa so it can be a bit laggy there

[simple shore]

Like, anyone who is in software development type jobs especially should watch that documentary. Because it will apply to your real life.

[novel sonnet]

ps4 don't have IE lol

[dire prawn]

I'm on laptop

God I haven't used IE in forevere

Where do I even update this thing

[novel sonnet]

i use chrome lol or fire fox lol

[dire prawn]

Well somebody just said that FFXIV's thing for creating a new SE account through the launcher uses Explorer

I use Chrome or the new Edge

[novel sonnet]

IE is actually the backbone to EVERY internet browser sadly if you remove it the browser wont work properly haha

[slate arrow]

@dire prawn just Google it.

[robust crow]

when ishgard restoration seasons end, how long does it take to receive the title

[slate arrow]

Microsoft will try to redirect you to edge but insist on yes you're using IE

@robust crow within the week, at most. I think they spend extra time looking at the results to make sure nothing too fishy is going on.

[dire prawn]

So when I pull up the launcher I can't see what should be the 'Next' button while going through SE account creation

Should I just make an account through SE's website? Or stick with trying to do it through the launcher

[vernal urchin]

you might be better off doing it in your browser

[dusky sparrow]

should i got marauder or rogue as the first class in trial

cant really decide lol

[vernal urchin]

you can't pick rouge from the jump, so probably maruader

you can pick up rouge when you hit level 10

[dusky sparrow]

hmm alright then

im just looking for a class that i can get the most out of

[simple shore]

Marauder is a good class to start out as if you're new to the genre

[dusky sparrow]

like you know if a class "gets better" after lvl 70 or whatever

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[vernal urchin]

i'd say most jobs have their foundations laid out at 50, and really start coming into their own at 60

[dusky sparrow]

im thinking of going with either warrior or ninja but i do see that both of them get plenty of stuff until lvl 80

[vernal urchin]

ninja gets to have the ten chi jin handsign stuff, that's pretty fun

[dire prawn]

Well

That's just great

Since the launcher decided to break in the middle of me creating an SE account I can't use my email for 24 hours

[patent citrus]

huh what happened? 😮

[dire prawn]

So in the FFXIV launcher for doing the free-trial I'm trying to make a SE account right

Well the buttons that should be a 'Next' button or something similar are invisible for me

It's all black but my cursor will change when I hover over where that button should be

When I got to the part where I enter the confirmation code sent to my email and clicked where my cursor changed I got an error instead of anything happening and had to close the launcher

But since that email was already sent I can't use that email to try and register online for 24 hours

[vernal urchin]

rip

[cedar compass]

Don't think you need to register again

Just use the same confirmation code

[dire prawn]

I can't even continue to the confirmation code screen because a confirmation code has already been sent to the email

Oh I have another question

Might as well ask all the questions I can while I wait 24h so I can send another code

[vernal urchin]

fire away

[dire prawn]

Somebody mentioned earlier that you don't gain stats by leveling up, and all of your stats comes from your equipment/items

So how do stats and equipment work in this game

[vernal urchin]

you do gain stats from leveling, but they are tied to your classes and jobs, not your character

being a level 80 dark knight won't help you if you switch to a level 10 gladiator, stat-wise

[dire prawn]

Oh yeah that was my next question

How does switching classes work

Like if I'm a Lv 40 Bard for example but I wanna switch and try out a Conjurer or something

[vernal urchin]

every other job will have a quest you can pick up to unlock it

[simple shore]

@dire prawn I'm going to assume you know nothing so basically -
One stat is going to be your primary stat. For example, for melee DPS, their primary stat is Strength. So all of their gear will have strength on it.
Vitality is a stat everyone has, and that determines your max HP.

Then there's secondary stats.
Critical Hit increases your chance for, and damage of, critical strikes. Basically a chance to hit alot harder
Direct Hit is basically the same thing but a bit weaker of an effect. They can happen simultaneously though
Determination is a flat modifier to damage/healing
Skill Speed / Spell Speed makes you cast faster, or lets you use your actions faster. Casters use Spell Speed, everyone else uses Skill Speed.
Tenacity is a tank only stat that reduces their damage taken. Its generally avoided even by tanks though.
Piety is a healer only stat that improves their mana regen.

[dire prawn]

@simple shore You've assumed correctly since right now I don't even have a SE account

[vernal urchin]

and you just switch jobs by equipping the weapon related to that job

provided you have unlocked the ability to do so via the quests

for instance, if you wanted to pick up conjurer, you'd head to gridania, do the quest Way of the Conjurer, and now you can equip conjurer canes

[trail mulch]

for bozja memory farming

do i need to farm WITH the class and weapon

or can i use any class

[cedar compass]

If you're level 80 bard and unlock conjurer

You'll be level 1 conjurer

[dire prawn]

Oh God

[cedar compass]

And can only equip max level 1 conjurer weapons

[simple shore]

Generally speaking when it comes to gear, your priority while levelling up should always be :
Item Level > > > > Critical Hit > Direct Hit > Determination

To explain item level - its basically a number that represents the stat budget on the item. Higher item level gear will always have more weapon damage / primary stat on it. When you mouse over an item, you'll see something like this :

[open ember]

Any class so long as you have the quest up

[vernal urchin]

each job is very independent from each other

[trail mulch]

o nice so i can just use a lower class to level the class and farm memories

?

[vernal urchin]

you have to level each one individually

[open ember]

Yes

[trail mulch]

ahh nice nice thank you

[open ember]

You can be lv71 whatever class and still farm for memories in Bozja

[vernal urchin]

with the exception of summoner and scholar, which level together

[open ember]

Goes for fates in HW areas as well

[trail mulch]

this is why only the sch/smn level skip is worth actl imo if you're going to cop any level skips

cuz the rest only skip one class

[dire prawn]

So if I do switch classes what would be the best ways to level that class up

[simple shore]

There's a faq for it on here that people can post for you but

[trail mulch]

duty roulettes

[simple shore]

it will make no sense to you without first playing

I suggest settling in on one class until you get through MSQ or get really ahead of it in level

and coming back for the others afterwards

[green grail]

when you summon the retainer, you temporarly stop selling

[dire prawn]

Most likely that's what I'll do

[green grail]

once you dismiss them they go back up