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#questions-and-help
lilac dock
Ye
balmy lotus
Square enix accounts are pretty annoying ngll
lilac dock
first time i tried logging in it didnt like me, now when i reset my PC it doesnt like me again
balmy lotus
Reseting through mogstation usually works though
balmy lotus
U sure it's the right mail
lilac dock
Ye
balmy lotus
i feel u
when i tried to reset my pass and get my useename it took like hours to fix
maybe it just takes a while for it to send 🤷♀️
jovial tide
Should I focus on grabbing crystarium set? Is neo-ishgardian obsolete now except for glamor?
Context: new to lv 80
lilac dock
If you have a lot of allegory but not money crystarium's good, if the opposite neo ishgardian's still not bad
depends on how expensive exarchic is
robust crow
you should focus on getting your i500 relic
and getting to 485 ilevel so you can queue for eden 9-12 to get 510 pieces
if you buy any gear at all, get the chest and legs first since those pieces are likely to last you the longest
and cap your revelations every week to buy the i520 cryptlurker gear
lilac dock
iirc takes 13 weeks to get full cryptlurker for a class
robust crow
check for your class whether you buy the cryptlurker legs/chest early because oftentimes those give the biggest increases
well
don't get full cryptlurker lol
lilac dock
i mean if you're not doing savage i don't see why not
robust crow
if you don't raid savage you'll be fine just getting only the pieces that fit your bis
may as well spend remaining revelations on another class
lilac dock
true
jovial tide
What kind of gear should I be looking at for savage?
lilac dock
whatevers BiS
robust crow
you'll probably want to be i500 with at least your i500 relic before trying savage
ideally you'd have the 510 crafted or 515 emerald ex weapon
manic flare
is it worth buying the ilevel 370 ring using poetics since u can't get 2 scaevan rings?
south roost
Is there any special reason to pick one NA data center over another?
twilit arch
all poetics, centurio, and allied seal rings are no longer unique
manic flare
when did that change?
lilac dock
the datacentres have their differences
twilit arch
5.4
lilac dock
moreso with community than anything else
crystal's like the casual one, primal's got the most raiders, and aether i couldnt tell ya
twilit arch
primal and aether are both relatively equal on the raiding front
obsidian patio
Aether is a chaotic place of shitposting and terror. AKA about the same as primal
zinc orbitBOT
robust crow
aether latched on to fucking ilya light rampant
lilac dock
I barely ever hear about aether but it Exists
crystals raiding community is practically nonexistent
robust crow
if that tells you anything
lilac dock
fuck ilya strat
south roost
Ilya?
lilac dock
Its an E8S strat which PF's seem to absolutely fucking love
robust crow
it's a strategy for e8s that's arguably bad
south roost
(I'm fairly new)
robust crow
aether loved it for whatever reason
lilac dock
it is Not Very Good and there are Better Strats but aether PF loves it
robust crow
and always used it in lieu of other, better strats
there were even ilya parse parties
where they just didn't take melees
raw solstice
ilya was hardly as bad as people tended to tout, the problem existed more with players than with the strat
raw solstice
yeah
twilit arch
since they're a new player and that information doesn't really tell them anything
robust crow
was more telling that to cirranus because he mentioned not knowing anything about aether
i'm fully aware ilya light rampant means nothing to a non-savage raider
lilac dock
But yeah, Crystal's like the friendly one, aether and primal are more endgame oriented
robust crow
well
lilac dock
i can personally confirm crystal's basically nonexistent raiding community
balmy lotus
rp land
robust crow
this is just anecdotal but it seems like all the "you don't pay my subs" flourish there
lilac dock
as someone who's on mateus, theres a rather large amount of that lmfao
twilit arch
they all have their ups and downs, the main thing to note with crystal is that it leans more towards RP
and while the other two lean more towards raiding
lilac dock
balmungs reputation has transferred to mateus im pretty sure
south roost
Do any of them have a pvp scene?
twilit arch
Not really
robust crow
not really
twilit arch
pvp in the game as a whole is pretty niche
open ember
anywhere else that isnt balmung or mateus on crystal is pretty normal lol
south roost
Unfortunate v.v
robust crow
aether has a discord that focuses on rival wings and other pvp
lilac dock
PVP ain't like it is in WoW
sterile flower
Should I put my Strife gear in the Armoire or glamour dresser?
lilac dock
not nearly as popular
robust crow
but pvp in general is pretty low popularity in ff14
open ember
Should I put my Strife gear in the Armoire or glamour dresser?
armorie
lilac dock
Strife goes in armoire
sterile flower
though
robust crow
@sterile flower anything that you can put in the armoire, put i in the armoire
twilit arch
you should put it in the armoire
sterile flower
okay
robust crow
armoire space is unlimited
so it doesn't take up glamour space in the glamour dresser
robust crow
which is fully not enough
twilit arch
if you're really into glamour
robust crow
get a few more classes to 80
twilit arch
its not enough
robust crow
400 is not enough
twilit arch
if you don't really care then its kind of whatever
robust crow
15 glamour plates is not enough
obsidian patio
Yeah I hit 280 after junking a bunch of stuff I rarely ever used
Or wasn’t dyeable
sterile flower
If I want to apply the stuff to my character should I have it in my dresser? rather than the armoire?
twilit arch
you can use the armoire when making glamour plates
analog gate
if you can put it in armoire, put it in armoire
since glamour dresser space is limited
sterile flower
oh ookay
robust crow
the only (minor) issue with armoire is that sometimes i forget glams in the armoire exist
and also certain things you'd expect should be in the armoire...aren't
open ember
it'll give you a prompt
in the glam dresser
that it can be in stored in the armorie
so
sterile flower
so I can't store everything in the Armoire, correct?
robust crow
only specific items
sterile flower
but if it's seasonal or some sort of special, I can?
open ember
yes
open ember
also veteran rewards
robust crow
your traditional class armor too
lilac dock
god i forgot my fucking security question i stg
sterile flower
can I put the Nier automata stuff in the Armoire
twilit arch
no
lilac dock
and i misplaced the bloody paper i stg
jovial tide
So if I'm getting the gist of this right:
- Relic weapon 3rd upgrade + Exarchic
- Then do savage
- Buy tomestone gear as necessary until you have full exarchic
Is that the gist of the lv 80 gearing cycle?
lilac dock
savage is like the last step there
can't simply "do savage" cause it takes a while even if you're good
lilac dock
do normal e9-12, not savage
robust crow
- reach ilevel 485 any way you can
- run eden normals every week for up to 4 pieces of i510 gear
- supplement with crafted i510
- cap revelations every week for i520 gear
- do emerald weapon EX to get i515 weapon, or run i510 exarchic
- do savage to get i530 BiS and also to upgrade your i520 revelation gear to i530
if you don't do savage at all, skip step 6 because you won't be able to get that far
to get step 1, you can use any combination of allegory gear, crafted gear, gear from puppet's bunker (or even old eden gear, which is i480), gear from matoya's relict (485) or bozja (495)
gloomy mortar
For me, it’s:
- Buy Exarchix 510 gear
- Do Hunt Trains to get Tomes of Revelation and Materia
- Gradually replace Exarchic with 520 tome gear
- Do Savage to gradually replace with 530 gear
robust crow
unless you are rolling in gil there is no need to buy a full set of 510 exarchic
the 510 edenmete is just as good and may even have better substats
but note that the i510 exarchic can be pentamelded while the 510 edemete can't
but if you're pentamelding then you're probably raiding savage anyway
gloomy mortar
By the time you are lvl 80, you should be rolling in Gil
robust crow
you make like 3m gil from the story
i'd advise against spending 2m of that on i510 gear
especially when you can get 510 edenmete for literally free
lilac dock
how in the hell are you spending 2 million on exarchic
robust crow
grabbing a few pieces of i510 to get to 485 isn't a bad idea though
pieces are still 200-300k on my server
lilac dock
theyre like 150k on mine
twilit arch
please keep in mind that server prices are different
robust crow
it may be more or less expensive depending on your economy
lilac dock
200k max, nothings ever gone above
twilit arch
trying to act like everyone is going to pay the same price as you is silly
lilac dock
I mean if its datacentre consistent theres a massive economy difference between datacentres lol
gloomy mortar
You can also server hop for better prices.
jovial tide
They're 160k on mine
next pendant
What item level are the best vendor gears?
gloomy mortar
You can also ask your FC to make items for you
twilit arch
regardless, you should not assume that the prices for gear are the same as on your server/datacenter
lilac dock
mm fair
robust crow
click on "open armoire"
sterile flower
when I'm doing my glamour plates
twilit arch
click "open armoire"
robust crow
that's what i mean when I say sometimes I forget to check my armoire
gloomy mortar
Parrotbeak gloves, yorha leggings and dress?
patent citrus
😂
lilac dock
god why must everything be pain
patent citrus
i think that's also yorha gloves
lilac dock
first my password doesn't work, then i can't find security question answers, all this 'cause i want to play ffxiv lol
balmy lotus
it is what it isss
dark hill
if i have the standard edition purchased before can i add a steam key for the expansion or should i buy it directly from square?
heady knot
so one piece of gear enchaning gear can be farmed per week for all eden promise raids???
welp thats gonna take forver
lilac dock
yeah its not a particularly fast process
faint flare
if i have the standard edition purchased before can i add a steam key for the ex...
You must purchase from the same place you brought the base game
faint flare
so one piece of gear enchaning gear can be farmed per week for all eden promise ...
You also gets books to buy another upgrade ontop
desert ravine
how free trial works on ffxiv? it's currently on steam sale. my friend is kinda scared of monthly sub.
faint flare
Plus depending on your BiS, you may not need many
crystal bluff
free trial gets you all of base game and heavensward, up to level 60
faint flare
!faq Balance
zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
Check whm resources
desert ravine
so, no monthly sub till he gets to end of HW?
faint flare
Once you buy the game and register it, you're on the same regardless where you are
You CAN buy and NOT use the code given to continue with the trial while still getting the game at discount
desert ravine
okay thanks. will tell him just that
south roost
What's the fastest way to level 1-60~70 after buying the realm reborn story skip?
robust crow
same as any other leveling routine
do all your daily roulettes, spam dungeons or PotD after
faint flare
!faq altlvlguide
zinc orbitBOT
jovial tide
Is it fine to run E1-4 in AF80?
obsidian patio
It’s slightly above the minimum requirement so yes
robust crow
the normal edens are casual content
as long as you meet their ilevel requirement you can do it
there's hardly any expectations or anything going into them
south roost
Tyvm^^
delicate storm
can you get both of the heavensturn kabutos?
raven sage
delicate storm
ty
brisk ember
Hey! I'm having some kind of issue with the quest "It's Probably Pirates". It tells me to use the Duty Finder to enter Sastasha. I've done this (twice!) and successfully completed the duty, but it still says "Use the Duty Finder to enter Sastasha". Is this some kind f glitch, or am I missing something here?
obsidian patio
Do you have other duties selected in the duty finder? You may have went into those instead of sastasha
dark hill
another silly question...i just got the expansion but need to download the game...where do i do that now? im a returning player so i need to download the launcger
launcher*
fresh lodge
brisk ember
Do you have other duties selected in the duty finder? You may have went into tho...
This is EXACTLY what I did... Thanks for the help!
dark hill
thank you! i accidently bought it on steam after buying the original from amazon so i had to buy it again on the ff site to not lose all my progress...im having such a hard time
im a console newbie coming to pc 😦
lilac dock
god its just the birthdate i dont remember
robust crow
you won't lose all your progress in any case spikedirt
lilac dock
like ive got ID, i just don't remember the birthdate
robust crow
your one account can log in to any device, provided you own the license for that device
squeenix makes you buy the game all over again for console/pc
so if you're someone who wants to play on both, for example, you effectively have to buy the game twice
worthy berry
So i just started today and wonder is it a bad time to join
robust crow
no, why would it be?
we just had a major patch a month ago
everything is active again since everyone's doing patch content
dark hill
My character was only showing up under the service account and i resigned for the 360 sub...the steam one was not showing my character so i figured i was unable to use my character
worthy berry
There was a server that had extra exp but i couldn't join it cuz too many ppl
Can you change server later
robust crow
it's not because too many people
you have to attempt character creation during off hours
squeenix doesn't let you create new characters on any server if that server is currently on peak hours
you'd have to try creating your character on the desired server during the wee hours of the morning or something
and yes you can change server later but it costs money
but if you make a character on another server and you want to transfer it to get the exp bonus, you can't do that
the character has to specifically be created on that server, you can't transfer one to it if you want the bonus
worthy berry
So it was a bad time to start playing without extra exp
robust crow
not...really? just wait until early morning and make a new character
it doesn't seem like you're that far into the game
lucid kiln
anyone got an guild on how to lvl black smith fast?
worthy berry
Can you save a character look?
shrewd owl
ye
robust crow
yes you can save presets
leaden ginkgo
Is the DRK quest worth playing through or can I just watch it on YouTube ? I'm not enjoying playing the job but I've heard the story is cool
jade quartz
worth playing through
robust crow
very minor DRK story spoiler ||it's partly about conquering yourself so it kinda has more impact if you play it through yourself||
worthy berry
Is being a white mage good
leaden ginkgo
I dunno why but there's something about the animations that feels awful 😂
robust crow
all classes are good kira
white mage happens to be one of the most popular classes in the game period
worthy berry
I like doing dmg but i love healing too
robust crow
well you're going to like ff14 healing
leaden ginkgo
Lol you think you like healing until level 32
robust crow
because ff14 healing is literally about doing as much damage as possible
and minimizing how much healing you need to do
which is a pretty dramatic change from other games like WoW
where you pretty much heal 100% of the time
in ff14 you probably heal 40% of the time or less and do as much damage as you can during the other 60%
dark hill
Thank you for everyone that gave me some info for getting up and running. I am going to bed now while things download and update. Happy New Year all!
robust crow
ah
tanks and healers in ff14 typically do anywhere between 40-60% of the damage a DPS can do
so tank/healer DPS is significant and contribute greatly to raidwide DPS
as long as people stay alive, you want to do as much damage as possible
and if anyone tells you otherwise tell them to fuck off
leaden ginkgo
Just note that you have to decide if you should just stick to healing if you're not able to balance dps and healing at the same time
worthy berry
I pick healer cuz ik ppl love dmg roles but healing is important so ppl would let me join party easier was my theory lol
leaden ginkgo
Better off just healing than letting people die
robust crow
i'd argue otherwise kazzy
you should practice being able to do both
if you can't do both then you should work on being able to, instead of just telling yourself to not DPS
but ofc that may be difficult to pick up if someone is a new player
leaden ginkgo
Definitely but there's a balance to it. Especially if your tank decides to pull the entire world
robust crow
err
that's how all tanks do it
pulling literally everything is only a bad idea in lower level dungeons where people are inexperienced
leaden ginkgo
Exactly
robust crow
or maybe in certain dungeons that have no wall like aurum vale or stone vigil
but the tank is pretty much always expected to pull everything to comfort
robust crow
your standard raid comp is 4 DPS, 2 tanks, 2 healers
there is very little reason to deviate from that composition
you get a party-wide stat buff just for taking a variety of classes
lilac dock
if i get ffxiv on steam can i log into my character from my squenix account
robust crow
in addition, many mechanics are programmed to specifically target tanks or healers
lilac dock
stares at 90% of savage
robust crow
so if you run anything other than the standard comp, you risk mechanics functioning unexpectedly or randomly
DPS is furthermore split generally into 2 melee DPS and 2 ranged DPS
but there's more leeway there to deviate
you can run 4 ranged if you want to
or god forbid 4 melee
worthy berry
You said white mage is most popular should i have pick a dmg class then? i kinda wanna be strong but can help party but be able to solo play if i have too
robust crow
that's the beauty of ff14
you can literally be every class
at the same time
so pick white mage
pick red mage too
pick samurai
pick whatever you want
pick everything
shrewd owl
healers have the fastest queues too
robust crow
summoner and scholar share levels
so you have the option of having both a DPS and a healer at the same time if you want to play scholar or summoner
the story also gives you ample exp to level multiple classes
even without the road to 70 exp boost, you can typically get 2-3 max levels by the time you finish the story
i've seen some players have 4 or 5 80s by the time they beat the story because of road to 70 though
certain classes starting at level 50 or 60 also help a lot with that
slate arrow
if i get ffxiv on steam can i log into my character from my squenix account
You cannot, as your PC key is either Steam or Standalone.
You must use Steam for a Steam key and vice versa.
robust crow
i have one personal gripe about white mage though
it's really boring playing through story with white mage
because you only have like 3 damage spells for the whole leveling process
lilac dock
fuuuuuck
robust crow
so you're going to be spamming one of them like, for 100 hours
lilac dock
now i literally don't have any other option than just brute forcing the birth date
cause i don't remember it for the life of me
lilac flume
so im new to bozja front, should i just be waiting around for skirmishes and critical engagements or what?
frail fulcrum
im getting error 504, is that happening rightnow?
robust crow
so im new to bozja front, should i just be waiting around for skirmishes and cri...
it's kinda like eureka, you run around doing all the fates and join skirmishes and engagements when they appear
south roost
A friend of mine just bought the Realm Reborn story skip but is now able to fly, is this supposed to happen? I was under the impression that flying was from a Heavensworn quest line
lilac dock
its really nice
robust crow
if he bought a story skip then he can fly in all ARR zones
he cannot fly in HW zones until he does the requisite quests
south roost
When do you gain flying?
robust crow
in ARR you get it as soon as you beat the ARR story
worthy berry
Is shadowbringer the most recent
robust crow
in HW you won't get to fly for a while
lilac flume
it's kinda like eureka, you run around doing all the fates and join skirmishes a...
never did eureka before, any point to killing normal mobs?
robust crow
yes shadowbringers is the most recent expansion and caps at level 80
south roost
Ty^^ we were worried something messed up
robust crow
never did eureka before, any point to killing normal mobs?
it's generally faster to just target the fates, but i've never tried just hard grinding in bozja. I know you can do that in eureka though
twilit arch
pretty much the only reason to farm mobs in bozja is if you're cluster farming, which you should be in a group for anyway
robust crow
someone else can probably speak up regarding
twilit arch
otherwise, just focus on skirmishes and CEs
its very rare for skirmishes to not be up anyway
robust crow
Ty^^ we were worried something messed up
heavensward flying is more complicated than ARR flying, you have to pretty much explore most of the map before you can fly in it
zinc orbitBOT
trim pier
Hey slightly stupid question
If I get the PC version of this game while I already have the PS4 version, can I transfer my account stuff into there?
Characters included
robust crow
pc and ps4 version accounts are shared
you're just buying a pc license for your account
you're playing the exact same account with the same character
buying the license just means you're allowed to play it on pc too in addition to console
craggy crypt
I did a Lv60 quest and no Bitter Memory drop. Is it a once per day drop? I got one through duty roulette today
5/6 Bitter Memories at the moment
robust crow
bitter memories are 100% drops at the end of any level 60 dungeon
just run antitower again
craggy crypt
I just did Shisui of the Violet Tides and no drop 😦
twilit arch
that's not a 60 dungeon
robust crow
that's not a level 60 dungeon
twilit arch
that's 63
craggy crypt
oh
frozen girder
Is Consolegameswiki lagging for anyone else ._.
craggy crypt
I thought it meant Lv60s
worthy berry
Is buying costumes worth it?
frozen girder
It takes like 10 min to load a page on the wiki >_<
robust crow
Is buying costumes worth it?
that's up to you
depends how much you value them
some people think $18 for some of the costume sets is too expensive
others froth at the mouth to open their wallet
craggy crypt
Anyways, thanks for the help!
robust crow
they're 100% cosmetic so their only purpose is to look pretty
slate arrow
if it helps, 100% of the revenue to the FFXIV online store go back into the game (EX: EU servers) while Starter, Expansions, and Sub Time go into SE as a whole, most of the time.
robust crow
when the schoolgirl/schoolboy outfit came out
craggy crypt
I also want to add that paying with Crysta dodges taxes, at least for me
obsidian patio
It takes like 10 min to load a page on the wiki >_<
Apparently it’s under attack by hackers or something, according to someone else having issues
slate arrow
consolegameswiki?
frozen girder
That sucks so much
It's so far been the most useful resource
I'm still using it even tho it's so slow now XD
slate arrow
Have you tried Gamerescape?
worthy berry
Anyone one playing atm?
robust crow
i'd wager most of the people in this chat are probably playing
slate arrow
I was just in game a few hours ago
glacial isle
What's the "Proto Ultima Heat Shielding" from the "Unidentified Flying Object" quest for?
slate arrow
You can turn it in for 270 gear at the goblin vendor in the forge, IIRC
(Slight fun fact, Proto-Ultima only appears when any 1 person in the alliance has the quest active. All other times, it's a generic mob.)
glacial isle
huh
Aside from glamours/completion is the Proto-Ultima stuff just equivalent to the Shire gear?
obsidian patio
Yep
twilit arch
ye
gloomy ice
It's also only accessories and one glamour chest piece.
glacial isle
nlg, shame running Dun Scaith for those is prob. a lot longer than just grinding Poetics
gloomy ice
It was an easy second 270 ring before the change to poetics rings this patch.
slate arrow
I mean, you're still getting a fair bit of poetics from boss kills and more. Probably not the worst use of time, assuming queues aren't bad.
(Plus the one free 270 accessory per run)
versed venture
is heaven on high still one of the best ways to level?
obsidian patio
For 61-70, yes
leaden ginkgo
Hey if I got this starter edition on ps4 what else do I need to buy in order to get every expansion?
robust crow
just shadowbringers
there's trial, starter, and then shadowbringers
the "complete" edition is just starter + shadowbringers in 1 package
leaden ginkgo
Okay. I also see that there is this class booster thing on the mog station. It levels a classs to 70 ...would this be wise to get if i wanna try out classes?
robust crow
well
there's a number of caveats
buying it skips that class's story, so if you care about the lore to your class then you have to go back and new game+ it or youtube it
leaden ginkgo
Im not into lore
robust crow
also many classes start at level 30, 50, or 60 so the value is diminished a bit if you buy it for one of those classes
leaden ginkgo
Perhaps..can it also unlock classes?
robust crow
someone else can chime in here since idk what exactly happens if you buy, say, DRK but haven't unlocked ishgard
robust crow
also many people suggest not buying a class if you're new
you may as well just do story and get the class naturally
not like you get any kind of advantage at all if you haven't done the story
leaden ginkgo
Also im lvl 41 black mage...but my main quests are for lvl 25...will this ever catch up?
robust crow
having a level 70 but still being in ARR doesn't help you a whole lot
no
and that's partly why many people don't suggest buying class skip if you're still new
you super outlevel the story
it's designed to allow you to level multiple classes at the same time
leaden ginkgo
No i didnt think ill get an advantage..just a quick route to fully skilled class to check out... this blm steel feels like thaumaturge
robust crow
many people have two or three level 80s by the time you finish the story
black mage doesn't hit its class fantasy until level 60
leaden ginkgo
Sweet
robust crow
most classes don't feel like a full class until they're well into their 50s
black mage has it especially bad
leaden ginkgo
What should I do besides main story 8n order to speed up leveling?
robust crow
well
your level 50 class skills are locked behind story
you're fucked either way
leveling in ff14 isn't important
if you are behind on your MSQ then you are fucked
leaden ginkgo
I see
robust crow
you need to keep up with your MSQ because literally everything is tied behind it
i suggest picking up another class
leaden ginkgo
Well ill just keep doing them
warped nest
There's no noticeable advantage in out leveling your 
robust crow
don't do that
leaden ginkgo
Also wouldnt I be stuck on lvl 1
robust crow
just level two or three classes at the same time
leaden ginkgo
If I get another class now
robust crow
yes but early leveling is fast
1-16 can be done in like an hour or two
then from there on you can do a leveling roulette and instantly be 20
robust crow
yeah
warped nest
If you want to pick up a new class, yeah
robust crow
but like i was saying earlier
blm is going to feel like shit until 60
that's the downside of that class
warped nest
!faq blmleveling
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
Well classes im.interested in are red mage, machinist, astrologist
robust crow
you need to beat ARR to get red mage
you need to start HW to get machinist and astro
warped nest
You don't
robust crow
is it just level 50 for red mage?
warped nest
!faq sbjobs
zinc orbitBOT
robust crow
even better for you
leaden ginkgo
does this mean i have to be level 49 to do this quest?
warped nest
You do need to own Stormblood (which is included with Shadowbringers)
robust crow
but rdm does start at 50 so you'll still be ahead of the story
warped nest
Yes, Yasuo
leaden ginkgo
Yeah ill get that i guess
Damn
alright, ty
whats the fastest way to get two levels without MSQ?
Allright. Ill make a conjurer then for easy dungeons
warped nest
Roulette
robust crow
without daily roulettes?
leaden ginkgo
i dont know what roulette is, im new to the game, how can i find it?
warped nest
First page of duty finder
leaden ginkgo
Okay so how do I proceed with changing the class?
Does anyone know an ixion tracker or a way to track it?
alright ill try roulette
warped nest
Leveling roulette is a good daily one time source of exp
obsidian patio
@leaden ginkgo equip the weapon for that class and then save it as a gear set for easier swapping
warped nest
Afterward, you can repeat the highest level dungeon you have to grind for exp, which should be lvl 44 or 47
warped nest
Okay so how do I proceed with changing the class?
To get a new class, you actually need to go to the guild first
To unlock em
neon trellis
So, I've been working on my summoner, but decided to do a little bit of scholar for fun. To get more used the healer role, I've been doing the leveling roulette (level 16.) As a scholar at that level, I feel like I've been basically spamming ruin, because 95% of the time, the fairy can do sufficient healing to keep the tank good. Does that sound about right?
leaden ginkgo
But I only have mage weapons
warped nest
That's correct for Scholar at low level
Talking to the guild NPC will give you new starter weapon
obsidian patio
For low level dungeons the fairy can basically solo heal
leaden ginkgo
I see
obsidian patio
It’s not until Qarn or Cutters when you’ll actually need to step in
leaden ginkgo
Well im gonna go with schoolar cause i already got the gear i guess
obsidian patio
Maybe Haukke and Brayflox depending on tank/your gear
leaden ginkgo
Conjurer
warped nest
Have fun, Laurence
Ah, remember to save your BLM gear as gearset
This is crucial for easy job swapping
warped nest
No
robust crow
no
but i'll repeat the gripe i spoke about earlier
conjurer/white mage literally only has like 3 damage spells
so it gets mindlessly boring spamming stone for story
leaden ginkgo
Damn
robust crow
it's obviously a lot more interesting if you're in a dungeon
but when you're solo leveling you're gonna be pressing 1 button 95% of the time
leaden ginkgo
Maybe arcanist then and get schoolar after
neon trellis
OK, cool. I will tell you that I was really judging my tank on the last roulette I did, because I kept having to physick the tank. Like, why was he taking so much damage.
I realized a few minutes in I forgot to summon my fairy. So, in reality it was me who blew it.
neon trellis
Yeah, that was why I went arcanist for my first class. But, it's been a little bit of a shift trying to learn to heal. I'm a bit afraid of doing higher level dungeons as a scholar quite yet.
glacial isle
Is this the beginning of Ishgardian Restoration?
neon trellis
Leveling roulette has been good for getting the mindset of tracking party member health
(First job, I know I know)
leaden ginkgo
Sweet thanks
neon trellis
Any tips for higher level scholar? I feel like maybe i should have focused on scholar after 30 to get into story raids much faster
(Sorry if jumping in kind of split up the conversation in a way that was confusing. Is it better etiquette to wait for a lull?)
obsidian patio
Higher level Scholar is making good usage of your many cooldowns
neon trellis
Or would most intro videos regarding the rotation be enough to figure out the basics around level 55-60?
neon trellis
Are story raids in this level range dependent on spot on healing/tanking/etc? Or are they pretty forgiving?
warped nest
If you are gonna watch a guide, watch that one
neon trellis
I had my first wipe ever on the Moogle King, so it seems like things are escalating slightly.
frozen girder
Oh wow
frozen girder
Like full team wipe
neon trellis
Yeah
robust crow
Are story raids in this level range dependent on spot on healing/tanking/etc? Or...
literally anything in the story is forgiving as fuck
neon trellis
Was that just a bad team?
frozen girder
My first team wipe was like... Alexander
glacial isle
So what exactly is the Ishgardian Restoration? Is it just "Craft stuff, deliver to Ishgard" like the Ixal quests? All I know is that everyone says to do it for levelling crafting jobs
warped nest
Moogle king has mechanics
robust crow
anything that isn't a savage or EX difficulty raid allows for numerous deaths and the ability to ignore like half the mechanics
frozen girder
Alexander was hard without a coordinated team
warped nest
Maybe not that forgiving
frozen girder
Come to think of it, Alexander was the first thing that was really unforgiving mechanics wise
warped nest
Allows for numerous death: maybe
Ignore half the mechanics: only if you unsync
robust crow
there's only like 2 or 3 of the alexander raids that you have to actually do any mechanics on
90% of the time you can just stand in the aoe and get hit and still live
neon trellis
The best has been when someone takes it on themselves to label which target to hit. Who usually does that coordination when random groups are brought together?
robust crow
you'd take a vuln but it's not gonna impede the clear
glacial isle
(personally the only hard bit of the normal Alexander raids was Alexander Prime, and only because no one said to go in the time portal, leading to a wipe. After that, things proceeded smoothly)
robust crow
no one says anything because they either assume everyone knows or they don't know themself
frozen girder
My team had a lot of trouble figuring out the Cruiser mechanic
They didn't interact with the currents, so I was the only person alive
And I was DPS
glacial isle
I said "1st time" going through those and they usually said the mechanics
frozen girder
Legit I told them to interact with the currents
And they ignored me
That was the first team I left before the instance ended
They pissed me off so much
neon trellis
Thank again as always for your help all!
robust crow
The best has been when someone takes it on themselves to label which target to h...
most people don't do that, but sometimes an experienced player will just do it anyway
frozen girder
I'm only a sprout, but I've gotten 300 hours played in the last 2 weeks
So ask me if you need halp with stuffs
:3
Feel free to tag me as well
robust crow
it's not necessarily anyone's responsibility to mark things, they just do to help the clear
most of the time people are lazy and won't do it
sometimes I just mark myself and tell people to follow me if they have no idea what to do
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
Oh yeah this is going really fast. My arcanist already lvl 5 from just doing first class quest
Qiestion now being can I que as a healer ?
warped nest
Arcanist(DPS) becomes Summoner (DPS) and Scholar (Healer)
It is the only class in XIV that branches into two Jobs
analog gate
you can only start being healer once you reach level 30 and do the scholar jobquest
leaden ginkgo
can lvl 50 and 60 raids be done unsynced solo
obsidian patio
For the most part yes
leaden ginkgo
missed the boat on those :/
obsidian patio
But some may or may not be harder/impossible due to mechanics
leaden ginkgo
i see
Oh well. Since conjurer has 3 dps skills im gonna go with gladiator for now and then level this arcanist later
I cant go trough dps que xD
robust crow
you can't
the timer is completely random
well i guess the housing question is deleted now anyway
manic flare
@robust crow but is there a way to know there is a timer?
warped nest
No
robust crow
no
that's why people camp empty plots
because there's no way of knowing
you just have to get lucky and be the first person to click the button
when the invisible timer expires
manic flare
was there going to be new available housing districts in a few weeks?
glacial isle
Is the Firmament supposed to be empty aside from the Restoration NPCs?
One said there were merchants setting up shop, but the market stalls were empty
leaden ginkgo
There is this message below my exp bar counting 60 seconds and mentioning Chain. What does it mean?
manic flare
can you buy housing directly from other players?
obsidian patio
I don’t think chains exist anymore? Either way they’re basically an experience boost for killing stuff fast
obsidian patio
can you buy housing directly from other players?
Nope. Best that you can do is transfer ownership of an FC if it’s an FC house
manic flare
how do you make select options in dialogue boxes on keyboard without using a mouse?
for example entering the chute in castrum meridianum
or buying a plot?
kind eagle
Where is the event at
frozen girder
Aftcastle > Limsa Upper Docks > Walk south
obsidian patio
how do you make select options in dialogue boxes on keyboard without using a mou...
Numpad 0
frozen girder
Omg
This is the most satisfying thing I've seen
3 quests all stacked on top of each other
zinc orbitBOT
wheat plume
Can I use ñ in the in game chat?
eager fog
which grand company is the best and does it affect my class?
hollow wigeon
Hello?
slate arrow
any differences are cosmetic
jade quartz
!faq grandcompany
zinc orbitBOT
hollow wigeon
I’m trying to get to actually play the game but because of a mix up from when I was a kid I can’t.
slate arrow
Make a new SE account, sign into mogstation with new SE account, and play the Free Trial through Heavensward
leaden ginkgo
are the kimonos paid cosmetics
hollow wigeon
I make new accounts but I can’t.
slate arrow
your PSN account is tied to your SE ID
hollow wigeon
Yes and I’ve changed it.
wheat plume
if I put in glam dresser a gear that has glamour from another gear, the one I'm putting in the dresser, has its original form if I put it in a plate?
hollow wigeon
I keep linking it to new accounts.
robust crow
if you put anything in the glamour dresser
it removes all enchantments from it
so you will put the original appearance in the dresser
wheat plume
nice, thxs
slate arrow
I'm afraid I can't help then, I don't use PSN
robust crow
it ignores whatever you glammed over it
dry osprey
Im on psn i can possibly help
hollow wigeon
Ok then. Thanks.
iron rock
Why do people with all jobs at level 80 still do roulettes? For poetics? But I thought that they only can be exchanged for gear up to lvl70
hollow wigeon
It keeps saying my ID is Josh414 but I don’t remember the pass I’ve got it so I can’t get it fixed.
little swift
Why do people with all jobs at level 80 still do roulettes? For poetics? But I t...
at 80 you're rewarded with the current tomestone of the expansion (currently allegory as uncapped and revelation as weekly capped)
robust crow
Why do people with all jobs at level 80 still do roulettes? For poetics? But I t...
at higher levels roulettes also reward other tomestones
little swift
you also get things like clusters for materia
robust crow
not to mention gil as well
little swift
also money
iron rock
I see, I was confused cause one of my FC mates said that they're doing it for poetics, even though they had everything at 80 and was so confused
robust crow
that's one way to get poetics
dry osprey
It keeps saying my ID is Josh414 but I don’t remember the pass I’ve got it so I ...
Did you try reset passord or logging into mog station on phone
wheat plume
can I save ironworks in the item storage box that's next to glam dresser in inn?
iron rock
I assume you get the new totems once u finished the base ShB MSQ?
hollow wigeon
Mog station?
little swift
yes
little swift
can I save ironworks in the item storage box that's next to glam dresser in inn?
no
check for the armoire icon on the gear so see if its possible
dry osprey
Mog station?
Yeah mog station have you not paid a subscription yet?
little swift
from left to right in the top right corner the icons mean
can put company crest, put in glamour dresser, put in armoire
wheat plume
where do you recommend me to save the ironworks/shire in case I wanna do another job in the future that shares gear? I dont wanna use glam dresser for storage of so many things that I wont use for glam
hollow wigeon
I don’t have a registration code....
wheat plume
Company Crest is for me only, or any player can take it ?
little swift
its just the logo from your free company
only people in your free company can use that logo
dry osprey
@hollow wigeon can you pm me real quick is a bit crowded
wheat plume
but can I use it as a retainer, or if any other player from the FC wants to access to it, they can do it and take the gear?
hollow wigeon
Ok then. Sure. Thanks.
little swift
but can I use it as a retainer, or if any other player from the FC wants to acce...
i think you're misunderstanding what it does
all it is a logo can be applied to the gear
crest not chest
wheat plume
oh, ok, I thought it was a chest for storage
little swift
thats a company chest
little swift
like a shared guild storage
slate arrow
It's basically storage anyone with permissions can access
little swift
based on what permissions are available you can put stuff in and take stuff out
but its open to everyone with the same permissions
so someone could take something of yours
wheat plume
limited to people from my GC ?
slate arrow
There's 4 pages of inventory, but perms can make it so that you can only deposit/withdraw from certain or none of the pages
little swift
yes
slate arrow
and yes
wheat plume
what are perms?
slate arrow
permissions
wheat plume
How can I get the permissions?
slate arrow
ask your FC leader or anyone with the permissions to give you/your role access
wheat plume
I'm not in a fc
slate arrow
then you can't access it
wheat plume
ah, is that chest for fc or for gc ?
slate arrow
since it's for FCs only
little swift
there is just a chest at every GC HQ and market area for convenience
company chests can also be placed in player housing
wheat plume
So I could create a fc only to have that extra storage? What's the minimum qty of players to form a new fc and have access to that box?
slate arrow
You need 4 people total to make an FC but you can have them leave once it's made
wheat plume
great,
wheat plume
how many item slots does the box have?
slate arrow
175, I think?
wheat plume
lol, like a free retainer
slate arrow
's not really "free" since you can't sell items via your FC
wheat plume
yeah, but for storage, it is
What's the requirments to create a fc? besides haveing 4 players?
slate arrow
Not sure. There might be a GC requirement, but that might only be to buy an FC house
wheat plume
ah, what's the requirement for buying house? I was planning on doing it in the future, but I only thought I required gil
wheat plume
Is there something like ironworks for crafters or gatheres?
little swift
there is an ironworks set of crafting/gathering at 60
its a crafted set
at 50 there is the artisan's set from your GC
at 70 is the Handking's set
and 80 Handsaint
for yellow and white scrips respectively
wheat plume
what are those colored scripts? My crafters are lvl 52-55 (doing job quest from HW)
little swift
consider the yellow scrips the poetics of crafters/gatherers
with them being labelled respectively based on the role that can earn them
wheat plume
oh, ok, when can I get them, and when can I use them?
zinc orbitBOT
wheat plume
I havent seen anything called allegory yet, Im in msq from HW
wheat plume
And If I do it correctly, can I get good gil selling crafted gear?
slate arrow
sometimes
Usually depends on the Marketboards though and as of late, since everyone has leveled crafters and gatherers the profit margins on crafted gear has fallen a fair bit, especially if you buy materials.
wheat plume
oh, ok, and is there any better way of getting gil then?
slate arrow
nope
Best way to make a profit is to sell a high volume of crafted gear with materials you get yourself, not spending a gil on the MB
wheat plume
I'm fine with that, dunno why but I really enjoy to spend hours crafting without using macros
buut, I've only done that to lvl 54 in 6 crafters, don't know how hard will it get later
robust crow
well, the thing is
you're either going to have to spend a lot of money or spend a lot of time
to get your crafting gear good enough to the point of being able to craft the gear
wheat plume
Yeah, I've been doing that recently too , I'm fine with that
If I have 50K company seals and earn more, there is a message I cannot earn more, but if I spend some, do I get inmediately the ones I didntt got before? I've just bought an 40K seals emote, and I have still more than 30K seals
wheat plume
My cap now is 50K
robust crow
then you somehow got 20k seals from somewhere after you bought the emote
wheat plume
I bought stuff for 44K seals, then started selling stuff for not more than 5K in total, and when I see my actual seals, I have 36K
I got exactly 34K when I was supossed to have 4K, and in the meantime I only went to the inn to store gear for glam, to a mender to repair gear, and got some stuff from and to my saddlebag
But I've been weeks with my 50K, without earning any more
a glitch maybe?
robust crow
it's not a glitch
i'm not going to try and figure out how you got 20k though
just know that it doesn't give you your seals over max
brisk ember
I'm about to buy the "Final Fantasy XIV Online Complete Edition [PC Download]" from the square enix store. Will this give me a code that I can input into my FFXIV launcher/game? Or is it some other delivery/linking method?
for reference: https://store.na.square-enix-games.com/en_US/product/564956/final-fantasy-xiv-online-complete-edition-pc-download
sour path
hey, downloading the game atm. and got the trial version. how is the early gameplay compared to the newst expansion?
robust crow
early gameplay is going to be slow
yes surpex you should get a code
that you can enter in mog station
sour path
is it worth to do every quest in every area?
robust crow
no
hasty musk
no
robust crow
you can focus on your main story and ignore all the sidequests
what's the new player faq command
hasty musk
!faq newplayertips
zinc orbitBOT
sour path
damn. i have a "urge" to "Clean" a map XD
hasty musk
tl;dr, do MSQ, job quests, and any 
you see cause they might unlock something important
sour path
wow thanks!
brisk ember
@robust crow I apologize, what is the Mog station? I'm quite new here.
robust crow
it's basically your account info on ff14's site
you'd google mog station, log in to your SE account, input your code that you got from buying the game
robust crow
yes, the complete version is the full game
although many recommend to start on the trial first
the trial does not require a monthly fee
as soon as you buy the game then you have to start paying the sub fee
you can play it for free up until then as long as you want
wintry chasm
Well the game comes with 30 days but yes
sour path
will there be an option to turn off all unwanted quests?
robust crow
no
zinc orbitBOT
robust crow
my advice is to just get into the game and start poking around
daring jetty
diff. bet. the two?
sour path
okay. i just saw there is a lot to keep up. but i also should just enjoy the ride
no reason to haste to endgame
robust crow
if you just tunnel vision your main story quest you'll be golden
sour path
both EU server are well visited i assume?
robust crow
you can take a few distractions and unlock glamours and the gold saucer and try numerous classes if you want
brisk ember
Indeed, I'm currently playing the trial. I'm around level 25 and really wanted to get into the retainer system, and wanted to take advantage of the winter sale that square has going right now.
sour path
retainer?
hasty musk
!faq retainer
zinc orbitBOT
sour path
ahh, i was wondering. i just saw we can get this pet https://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/accimg2/40/1b/401b42b0579144af514d0eef9f62e03df53a63bb.jpg by a retainer. now it makes sense what people wrote on reddit
hehe
brisk ember
sour path
okay. thanks for the information. the rest will be mostly learning by doing and choosing a class is also something i have to try out. i read i easy can keep up if i ever choose another class
or job - atleast in ff14 language
robust crow
the game encourages you to play multiple classes
daring jetty
how do i know if im getting a physicial or digital copy of the game when buying?
robust crow
you'll super outlevel the story if you only play one class
sour path
ths cat is adorable. so many cute pets to collect
robust crow
you should look to pick up at least two or three different classes to level at the same time
sour path
yeah. i like the summoner, this job with the fairy, dancer and this warrior battle axe class
atleast from reading
sour path
yes and no. i enjoy also learning a new skill and see the aniomation the first time 😄
im really excited to start(40min)
hearty rover
fastest way to level up miner and botanist from 60-80?
brisk ember
Would it be really stupid to buy the complete edition and just hold onto the code until i'm "done" with the free trial, since it's on sale?
silver ruin
is there a limit how many times an fc can change lead within a certain period?
robust crow
no, that's actually a good idea surpex
twilit arch
leves, collectables, class/crystalline mean quests @hearty rover
silver ruin
Would it be really stupid to buy the complete edition and just hold onto the cod...
no
halcyon grail
Question - How should I be slotting materia? Are their specific numbers to follow, or is it just "Slot as much as you can of your core attributes"?
silver ruin
Question - How should I be slotting materia? Are their specific numbers to follo...
are y ou level 80? generally its sks to comfort>crit>dh>det
halcyon grail
Yes
hearty rover
leves, collectables, class/crystalline mean quests <@!247040783042084864>
thank you
robust crow
you can try looking up the recommended sks amount for your class's bis
and try to meld to fit that sks
just so you start getting used to it
or modify your melds to try different sks tiers to see what feels comfortable
halcyon grail
How do I know when I've hit it? Does it say in the skills tooltips?
silver ruin
yep
robust crow
look at any weaponskill, it will tell you your gcd
halcyon grail
Just checking - some games dont calculate that out at the menu
robust crow
also be aware that the recommended food for your class may give sks
halcyon grail
Theres recommended food?
robust crow
so if you want to be at a specific tier you need to work around that
yes
a lot of tanks use chicken fettucine
halcyon grail
I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be getting into Savages, or any content that requires exact by the second timing like that.
robust crow
but if you don't want your food to mess with your sks you can probably use smoked chicken instead
well it's a comfort thing, not just something to consider for savage
glacial isle
What rewards do we get for Heavensturm? Aside from the Kabuto helmets?
robust crow
paladin, for example, need to be at a specific sks so they can fit two goring blades into their fight-or-flight combo
robust crow
you may want to visit the balance and read up on drk
they will have suggestions for sks tiers
halcyon grail
So once I get my skillspeed at a good level, focus on the class core attributes and just pump them as high as I can?
daring jetty
what's the difference between the two?
twilit arch
PC is physical copy, PC download is digital @daring jetty
robust crow
the stat tier that was mentioned is used for a lot of classes
daring jetty
PC is physical copy, PC download is digital <@!320738644518502400>
thank you
robust crow
almost every class in the game wants crit DH and det
some classes like warrior and BLM want sks/sps more than others
go look at 5 different classes on the balance
i bet you all 5 of them will likely want crit > dh=det
halcyon grail
The Balance lists materia priorties?
twilit arch
yes
robust crow
they list stat priorities
halcyon grail
Lastly - I hear people mention overmeld and pentameld with no context. What are they?
twilit arch
crafted gear can be melded past the slots shown
twilit arch
overmelding is the act of melding past that, pentamelding is melding the gear to its max (5 slots)
robust crow
you can only overmeld crafted gear
you can't overmeld the eden normal or savage
so you can't overmeld this piece of gear
twilit arch
basically if it says "Advance melding forbidden" = no overmeld
halcyon grail
thanks
silver ruin
do you know if theres a limit to how many times fc leadership can transfer in a certain period of time
@twilit arch
twilit arch
not that im aware of
silver ruin
ok thanks
sick coral
Question, if you unsync the Rathlos Extreme fight, do you still get rewards?
twilit arch
yes
shell walrus
Where can I find the 'seasonal shop'? Looking to buy the 'Heavensturn' event item
twilit arch
its the ushi shonin, near the quest giver
shell walrus
oh, found him! thank you
potent shuttle
so would u recommend joining primal or aether data center
robust crow
doesn't really matter
aether and primal are pretty similar
same location (NA), both have a strong raiding culture
robust crow
both are about the same
potent shuttle
ok i guess i’ll go to aether bc it’s sounds cooler
thick summit
i need to do fates and buy an item for increased mount speed in shadowbringers, yeah?
robust crow
since you're going to be flying 99.99% of the time
thick summit
hmmm, well how many fates does it take?
i'd still like to have it if it doesn't take too much time
if you have a guess i mean
robust crow
i don't recall
zinc orbitBOT
daring jetty
is there a difference on buying the game in NA/EU store??
twilit arch
The game licence is region locked so you need to buy the game from the appropriate store front
i.e if your mogstation account is under "The Americas", you need to buy from the NA store
daring jetty
thank you
leaden ginkgo
Damn leveling these alt jobs is indeed fast. Went in dungeon as 16..came out as 24 lvl
robust crow
road to 70 + armoury bonus + leveling roulette bonus does that to you
gritty oracle
Plus brand new ring plus FC buff plus any applicable earrings
gloomy drum
just got AST to lvl 60, where should I go for my primary arm?
gloomy drum
yeah I have thanks
gritty oracle
Get Shire gear
sour path
is there a reason why i cant choose the lion or rabbit race?
finaly creating my first character
gloomy drum
Get Shire gear
are they the ones you exchange with tomestones?
twilit arch
you need to own shadowbringers to be able to make a hrothgar or viera @sour path
sour path
ah damn
obsidian patio
are they the ones you exchange with tomestones?
Yes
gloomy drum
thanks
left lynx
ACT allowed to be discussed here? I see it says modded content allowed as long as it doesn’t add Mog Station items but that doesn’t really apply
twilit arch
yes
left lynx
Alright, does anyone know how to make a custom trigger that activates in any party setting when dance partner is not selected?
Or do I just have to add all of the dungeons/raids myself?
obsidian patio
TL;DR: Raen are Japanese names in origin while Xaela are Mongolian
With Xaela also using a tribe/clan-based last name
strong saddle
Why is pvp so niche here
obsidian patio
It was never a main focus of the game.
forest laurel
