Sad product of having top heavy classes
#questions-and-help
faint flare
warm snow
Might be fun
drifting sparrow
i just got my arcanist to lvl 22, and i found out about the class as a whole, A FREAKING POKEMON TRAINER and i love it
faint flare
Send them out on ventures
warm snow
@sacred flame doing ventures
karmic niche
if you want a pokemon trainer
leaden ginkgo
When can I do smth cool with my class?
karmic niche
i suggest play summoner
warm snow
What's your class?
karmic niche
even you get 2 class as an arcanist
drifting sparrow
doesnt arcanist branch out as summoner at 30?
leaden ginkgo
am I gonna be a healer forever? What about jobs?
warm snow
But usually lv30
faint flare
Usually the "coooler" skills are later
karmic niche
you get 2 class
faint flare
Not unless you fire them
karmic niche
and level at the same time
sacred flame
Not my babies
drifting sparrow
which jobs outside the basic class jobs can a trial player play? like, can i be a gunbreaker, machinist?
warm snow
If you change a retainers class does it lose all level progress?
obsidian patio
Yes
warm snow
@drifting sparrow machinist yes gunbreaker no
faint flare
Trial cant play Red mage, samurai, Gunbreaker, dancer
leaden ginkgo
also why can't I pick Viera when creating a character?=
drifting sparrow
oh hell yea, i can be a machinist and roleplay a cowboy, hell yea
faint flare
You do get a fantasia which lets you race change after completing ARR story, should you wish to change
leaden ginkgo
is it worth it tho?
warm snow
Basic game can't play red mage, samurai gunbreaker or dancer either btw
leaden ginkgo
is the game captivating?
warm snow
If you're enjoying ff14 definitely
faint flare
Well considering many of us here have played for years
sacred flame
Is there any point to blue mage?
faint flare
Fun
warm snow
It's fun
faint flare
Doing dumb broken shit
sacred flame
Got the quest and soul
warm snow
Also useful form some specific farming stuff
faint flare
Clearing dungeons in 5mkns
leaden ginkgo
I am v much into getting stronger, collecting new stuff, that's what keeps me at a game
sacred flame
Bruh
warm snow
It decimates FATEs
faint flare
And dungeons
sacred flame
š„“
drifting sparrow
@leaden ginkgo i mean, i really wanna get the complete stuff, and ive only played for 2 days
jade quartz
Blue Mage can be considered a side content minigame
warm snow
Blu takes more effort than most classes to git gud
drifting sparrow
buuuuut, you know, student life during lockdown, kinda waiting for a sale
leaden ginkgo
do i spend another 39? Euros on... a game
jade quartz
you can do old savage raids with it for a unique challenge
faint flare
Getting the game now doesn't do you much except unlock Viera and Hrothgar
People usually advise to continue the trial before buying
sacred flame
Wasn't it just black friday sale a week ago?
jade quartz
lets you cheese the hell out of them but also have to do some jank stuff to handle certain mechanics
leaden ginkgo
what about the main quest? doesn't it proceed there?
sacred flame
Or 2
faint flare
Yes
drifting sparrow
@sacred flame maybe it was, but i jsut started playing 2 days agoo
faint flare
But you dont need to buy now since you haven't progressed enough to reach that content
hardy gull
You can play till heavenswsrd on free trial
sacred flame
Do they ever do discounts on subscriptions?
faint flare
Never
hardy gull
After that u can decide whether or not u want to buy the game
warm snow
Only for those poor bastards that played 1.0
hardy gull
to be able to access stmb and shdb
drifting sparrow
well, im hoping for a christmas sale, so till then i get around 50-60
sacred flame
Oof
leaden ginkgo
I guess I gotta draw more art to earn some $$$
warm snow
1.0 veterans get a lifetime sub discount
drifting sparrow
eaaasy money
drifting sparrow
but im a guy
faint flare
Moving off topic
leaden ginkgo
grow some tiddy
sacred flame
When does our character talk? Do they even have voice lines lol
sacred flame
What was the point in getting a voice for a mute :(
sacred flame
Do mages not grunt?
faint flare
lala happy noise spam intensifies
zinc orbitBOT
sacred flame
Never heard my character make a noise besides emotes
green grail
dont think casters have anything with grunts
or at least not nearly as much as ranged
tawny quest
Yeah I barely hear my character, which is fine since I wasnāt a fan of the lala voice samples I heard
jade quartz
They're found in every major city market area.
Define raids
Casual 4-man dungeons begin at level 15 in the story
sacred flame
Dropping good armour sets and weapons
jade quartz
24-man raids (still casual difficulty) at level 50
uh.
Gear for you is provided all the way to level 80
green grail
at endgame
jade quartz
you don't need to get old raid gear
sacred flame
Oh
jade quartz
it's no longer relevant for stats
green grail
old stuff drops old gear that's not really worth the effort
sacred flame
I haven't seen a materia npc
faint flare
They're marked on maps
sacred flame
Are they locked behind a quest to unlock them?
jade quartz
!faq melding
zinc orbitBOT
obsidian patio
You can see them, they just need a quest to use them
agile night
so this is my first update, is there any use checking in the next 23 hours if the game is back, or does SE tend to stick to the schedule they set?
obsidian patio
This maintenance is absolute since itās the start of a new raid tier
So 0% chance of early ending
Though you might want to check a couple hours before the end to download the patch files
agile night
ah, want to make sure everyone has the same shot to get on at the same time?
obsidian patio
Yep, and to avoid any possible weekly lockout shenanigans
agile night
alright thanks good to know. that stuff doesn't affect me yet, but I guess I'll get there eventually
misty aurora
you know discord treasure hunt aether?
obsidian patio
modern sorrel
I've been scammed! I can't access the game it won't let me...
obsidian patio
The game is under maintenance
modern sorrel
oh
warped nest
By happenstance, we are currently in a 24 hours long maintenance (that won't end early) for a new major patch
cedar compass
Well 22 hours 38 mins to be exact
misty aurora
ty
cedar compass
Will you be able to buy the E8S weapon with allegory now?
balmy pond
Is it true I can be a megumin v2 if i become a black mage
obsidian patio
You have big fire spells, yes
balmy pond
damn
obsidian patio
Stay at 5
final sandal
In the event Undersized Party is enabled, players may still receive a bonus to learning success chance by enabling level sync.
what does this change mean for blue mage? are you able to turn on/off level sync mid-dungeon?
tidal yarrow
this means bards will be able to play 4 more instruments?
green grail
> In the event Undersized Party is enabled, players may still receive a bonus to...
it means if you go level-synced but with less than a light/full party then you'll still get the guaranteed learn bonus
paper torrent
those instruments are gunbreaker exclusive
green grail
because level sync and undersized party used to be the same button
now it's separate, disabling level sync disables the learn bonus
final sandal
ah, so i can go in solo and level synced
green grail
ye
final sandal
so i only get the learn bonus if i'm level synced, because unsynced is pretty cheaty
faint flare
Yes
You have to be synced for the guaranteed learning...the option allows for being synced while solo
green grail
this means bards will be able to play 4 more instruments?
they'll all look like the violin probably, but yes
final sandal
ok ty
zinc orbitBOT
fast talon
What does "prog buff" mean? I keep seeing the term tossed around when discussing the scholar change
faint flare
Prog is progress, often used when learning a fighr
green grail
more healer damage = easier to meet dps checks during early prog
probably
never really heard that used as a term
fast talon
Saw it a few times over on the balance just now
And a reddit comment or two on the patch notes
green grail
basically you dont use energy drain nearly as much during raid prog as you do when you're optimizing and greeding when doing weeklies later
and you do use a lot of broils and bio
so it's a buff for prog cause the nerf won't be that noticeable until people start optimizing damage on healers
fast talon
I see, so basically it's a buff for doing content blind or doing new content in general? But once people start going for speed clears it's not as big of an improvement?
green grail
basically just new savage (and ultimate whenever that comes out), since dps checks aren't really a thing in old or more casual new content
and as for how much of an improvement it'll be in the long run no idea, the balance math wizards are probably still calculating it so you'd have to keep an eye out there
fast talon
Aight, thanks
green grail
never could, it's only for random queues
green grail
ye
faint flare
Nothing new
faint flare
Just business as usual
jade quartz
Balance SCHs are currently saying it's a buff to SCH: 210-220 potency increase per minute, and the lost "opener" dps from energy drain during raidbuffs probably isn't significant enough to offset it. May differ for some fights where it will basically break even.
magic light
is it possible to update the launcher without a sub
jade quartz
no
hollow wraith
what are the learning rates for blu spells anyway? started blue recently and need the spell from tamtara, not sure if I should find a party for synced or overlevel and solo it
faint flare
Mind blast and glower are guaranteed regardless
Other spells are low learn rate
Doing dungeons synced guarantees all learnable spells
That you see
You can blast through Tam tara solo for Mind blast and learn it guaranteed
hollow wraith
ah ok
restive grail
hey just making sure but nobody can login rn correct? because update?
hollow wraith
and when you do stuff with a blu party does everyone get the spells? or each person learns separately?
faint flare
(well 22 hours 6mins at this point)
As long as people have aggro on the mob, everyone learns it
verbal rune
what are the learning rates for blu spells anyway? started blue recently and nee...
A blu synched party is 100% rate btw
hollow wraith
ok thanks
hasty musk
!faq meta
zinc orbitBOT
hasty musk
I'd assume no though
coarse flume
so i started the game last week and picked arcanist. When i started the scholar it said i got two fairies one to buff me and my allies and one to heal. But so far ( i am Level 40) both just do the same. So i assume it does not matter which one i pick?
jade quartz
Pick your preferred appearance, there is no difference in functionality.
coarse flume
okay thanks.
hasty musk
I know
karmic niche
how do i spoiler?
coarse flume
would there be a starter friendly class for dungeons an so on or is the learning curve mostly equal on all classes?
karmic niche
nvm fouind it
hollow wraith
cool people pick selene
fresh lodge
guys is bard meta?
Don't meme or shitpost in this channel
karmic niche
shit mod is here
wintry chasm
would there be a starter friendly class for dungeons an so on or is the learning...
Anything really
faint flare
Punctuation is important
wintry chasm
Pick what you want
gentle grail
is there a maint right now?
faint flare
Yes
fresh lodge
Yes
faint flare
22 more hours
fresh lodge
For the next 22 hours
gentle grail
oh I tried using the kupo bot but it says no maint
gentle grail
Thanks!
fringe vortex
Oh man...22 hours?
warm snow
Patch maint is 24 hrs
karmic niche
yeah, is a 24 hours maintainace
fresh lodge
Major patch release
karmic niche
^
coarse flume
okay thanks, so far i really like summoner and ninja but i think i will then try all classes i can with the trial^^
fringe vortex
Oh. Today is the 7th. Thanks!
fringe vortex
So during this maint, can we patch at all? Is that why I'm getting errors trying to log in saying "Unable to complete version check"?
high harbor
Might be a stupid question, but i have a char with a name i really like on an old, inactive account. Is there a wat to use that name on a new char on my active account without having to resub? Like...deleting the account would free the name?
@fringe vortex patch will become available tonight or tomorrow in the morning, usually some hours before it's playable
karmic niche
you can get a new patch like 4 hours before the maintain end i think
left moth
patch server wont be live for another maybe 12 hours
fringe vortex
Ahhh got it, thank you!
versed ridge
oh my. i think i'm really dumb. i didn't know tomestones of phantamogoria will be replaced in 5.4 and i spent it all on i460 gear.
returning player who didn't know better
left moth
yeah should be able to convert them to allegory (new uncapped) while goat tomes get removed completel;y
probaly same npc as usual in mor dhona
faint flare
They already spent it all
karmic niche
you can just embrace the gear look?
warm snow
Question: when you convert to allegory does it convert all at once?
zinc orbitBOT
uncut elk
when will the update be downloadable (europe time)
green grail
we don't know, when they make it downloadable sometime before maintenance ends
crisp merlin
probs like 7 or 8am europe time
tidal yarrow
debating this w a friend: can you get banned if you say to someone you bought a clear?
cause theyre telling me it's okay to pretend you did it yourself or you'd get in trouble
which i disagree with
dusk heart
Oh is this why I'm getting the unable to complete version check on boot?
I didn't realise maint started
mighty orbit
yup. started at midnight pst. ends 2 am pst
dusk heart
Gotcha
obsidian patio
debating this w a friend: can you get banned if you say to someone you bought a ...
If you say you bought it with cash you can definitely get in trouble for it
left lynx
Is Bozjan dead? Thinking about coming back for 5.4 and wondering if everyone got done what they needed done so itās now like Eureka levels of population?
tidal yarrow
gotcha
cold steppe
Where can i check for how long is maint for?
left lynx
Ah ok thatās good to know
jade quartz
go to #kupo-bot-spam and use the command !maint
cold steppe
thank you!
cold steppe
ah ic, oh well, i guess i'll play the game tommorow then. lol
broken musk
Dumb question but Is it possible to play two character with the same service account at the same time. For example: I play on PC while a friend plays on ps4
obsidian patio
No
broken musk
figured
slow crypt
your friend can get a trial account up to level 60 heavensward.
the trial never ends until you buy the game
broken musk
True, but i dont want to pay 2 subs since that friend is going to live with me
rich bay
It is actually possible to do it, but you need to register 2 accounts under the same service account.
And each need an own sub.
slow crypt
I was thinking you were trying to get them hooked so they pay their own sub.
twilit python
wanted to redownload the game in preperation for the next update, but when i try to open the client via steam all i get is a "ff14 boot error unable to complete version check" is this because the servers are down so i also wont be able to download the game until its back up live tommorow, or is this a seperate issue?
rich bay
@twilit python
The download servers are down too.
They are mostly back online when the patch goes into testing phase, around 4 to 5 hours before the game servers go back online.
twilit python
oh great, 2 hours is enough to download the game, was worried i would be a few hours late
well thanks
rich bay
The download time does depend on the load btw, it is possible the download goes way slower then expected @twilit python, due to many players downloading at once.
shrewd prawn
can you relocate a personal house into an fc house
fresh lodge
Nope
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
out of pure curiosity
how does the "buying a clear" thing even work
I see offers for it in PF too but like what do people actually do that they are able to sell smth like that
obsidian patio
If the content allows it, you simply die as soon as possible and everyone else does the fight
leaden ginkgo
oh
obsidian patio
For content where thatās impractical/impossible, one of the users will āpilotā your account and play for you
This is against the TOS, of course
ashen pendant
Is the maintenance for a whole 24 hours o.o
leaden ginkgo
yes
fresh lodge
Yes
ashen pendant
T.T
unborn light
When does it end UK time (GMT)?
jade quartz
it ends in 20 hours and 10 minutes.
fluid hemlock
Lol
worldly hornet
Anyone know how i go about fixing this?
halcyon tulip
wait until maintenance is over
worldly hornet
there does not seem to be any maintenance
severe turret
where do icheck for maintainence @worldly hornet
oblique crypt
Big 24h 5.4 patch
halcyon tulip
Kupo bot is wrong
worldly hornet
ah okay
severe turret
found it
[Date & Time]
Dec. 7, 2020 6:00 p.m. to Dec. 8, 2020 2:00 a.m. (PST)
- Completion time is subject to change.
tropic frigate
I was wondering why I was getting that error message 
patent citrus
wow kupobot isn't responding o_o
small marsh
leaden ginkgo
I unninstalled and reinstalled and still won't work. What do I do?
celest jolt
Same here
wispy parcel
They always do this before a major patch
celest jolt
I tho it was my computer and I even reinstalled the game
leaden ginkgo
Oh, Thanks!
celest jolt
Thanks yoshida, now I'll have to wait 1 week for download the game again
wonder if its too hard to put " game under maintenance " instead of those errors.
wispy parcel
tbf they did say for just over 2 months that 5.4 would be coming out on december 8th
leaden ginkgo
Hahah omggg xD
zinc orbitBOT
celest jolt
Yeah, but those errors doesn't mean " game its down because X" its telling you there is something wrong with your client/computer.
It happened in the past that even Steam/windows/Nivida screwed the FF clients with updates in some cases ( not everyone of course)
leaden ginkgo
Idk we'll see when the game is back on..
wispy parcel
It comes back on 6am EST tomorrow
pliant frigate
Hey I'm getting an "Unable to complete version check" error. I've gone through 2 pages of google results and now I'm hoping someone here might have a solution
wispy parcel
24 hour maintenance
brave ravine
lol, every few minutes another one cries about version check error
halcyon tulip
maintenance, wait for 20-ish hours
pliant frigate
doh
patent citrus
yeah, don't worry everyone getting that error š
neat mauve
Anyone get "unable to complete version check" error when trying to sign in? It won't let me play D:
wispy parcel
They always do this the day before a major patch
wispy parcel
Game will be back up 6am est
my bad
pliant frigate
haha he doesnt know
neat mauve
so its offline for the whole day? wow
brave ravine
just play something else today
outer plank
so its offline for the whole day? wow
If we had a nickel for every time someone asked why they cannot log on
pliant frigate
jokes on me I uninstalled
neat mauve
@outer plank i didnt mean it in offense, im sorry
outer plank
manic flare
@small marsh u have 3 hours to clear your dailies for Monday
After the server comes back up
outer plank
Servers come back up at 2 am est right?
leaden ginkgo
Of course people cry about it if it says 'error'. Could just say it is under the maintenance.
manic flare
Then they would need to release another pre release patch just to change the error dialogue
wet cradle
does anyone know if the title screen bug has been fixed?
wispy parcel
The problem it has is that the client for this game is terrible and always has been. To even launch the client it has to connect to the servers
wet cradle
where you can set it to another expansion and it stays after a restart?
wispy parcel
Most Japanese MMOs have this issue
manic flare
What's another Japanese mmo?
brave ravine
what is a good site/resource that keeps updated with day1 gathering node changes as people discover them?
manic flare
is there a list of planned changes somewhere?
open ember
Check #lodestone-news-na
wispy swan
What's another Japanese mmo?
there once was shin megami tensei online but it's dead and gone, isnt PSO2 japanese?
open ember
There's full patch notes now
brave ravine
tons of east asian mmos that us westerners wont see in years
mellow dirge
I've apparently fallen into a n00b meme
Same, I even did a system restore lmao
manic flare
well there's a ton of south korean MMOs
i think most people just think korea = japan
if not even part of japan still
patent citrus
Korean and JP are totally different culture in terms of IT stuffs
JP is so controversial, SK seems closer to the west
manic flare
IT? @patent citrus
patent citrus
oo i mean like user interface hehe
manic flare
which datacenter is tonberry located in?
patent citrus
JP - Elemental
patent citrus
I think about 62%
manic flare
damn
floral shuttle
Iām trying to login to FFXIV from steam and it keeps saying it canāt update the launcher. Does anyone know what to do?
It says unable to complete version check
verbal rune
Maintenance
patent citrus
need to wait till tomorrow since it's a maintenance atm
frank steppe
oh no
floral shuttle
So I canāt play today at all?
manic flare
would they extend the weekly deadline to wednesday?
since no one can clear their weeklies today
wintry chasm
No
verbal rune
Nope
manic flare
like doma, challenge log, custom deliveries, etc
wintry chasm
You had basically an entire week before hand
manic flare
yea but im a procrastinator
frank steppe
-but why does it take so long to just maintain a game
icy horizon
servers coma back at 2 am, right?
frank steppe
i mean in lol they only need 2 hours or so
wintry chasm
Well in the eyes of the game that's your fault Snack
halcyon tulip
Big patch coming
icy horizon
dope
manic flare
i always do my weeklies on monday night
frank steppe
new secret dlc confirmed
manic flare
does no one else do them last day?
icy horizon
i do
patent citrus
pretty sure there are a lot of them
wintry chasm
does no one else do them last day?
Not when I know a patch is coming
patent citrus
procrastinator have a specific psychology, they are aiming for the excitement of doing it last min
manic flare
well at least i did fashion report
patent citrus
that adrenaline rush sometimes addictive
reef oriole
Guys. What does snapshoting DOTs mean?
solid kraken
down for maintenance?
jade quartz
When you apply a DoT, it takes into account all damage buffs (or debuffs) on you and vulnerability debuffs (or buffs) on the enemy
halcyon tulip
Yes there's maintenance right now
jade quartz
For example, if I apply a DoT while I'm under the effect of a damage buff like Raging Strikes
and then Raging Strikes runs out
the full duration of the DoT is still buffed.
broken musk
When i add a new service account, can i use the same login info?
jade quartz
DoTs take a "snapshot" of your buffs when applied.
jade quartz
When i add a new service account, can i use the same login info?
Yes. However, I'd generally advise against having multiple service accounts on the same login as it can lead to some annoying issues.
broken musk
Gotcha
supple shore
cant load launcher, reads this thread AHHHHH ok
goes back to bed
reef oriole
How about clipping? I get confused when some guides say a skill is clipped into (insert a skill here)
broken musk
For PS4 players, do you need PS plus as well with the sub?
jade quartz
!faq gcd
zinc orbitBOT
zinc orbitBOT
wispy parcel
@broken musk no since the game isnt running off sonys servers.
broken musk
thank god
reef oriole
Ahh thankies! @jade quartz
true flax
is it me or is the launcher currently showing this error message?
"Unable to complete version check [30605]"
halcyon tulip
The 5.4 patch Maintenance is going on
marble cosmos
lmao I was about to ask the same thing @true flax
Did a wipe of my computer and am reinstalling now
So the game is temporarily unavailable to download until maintenance finishes? Even without the 5.4 patch?
verbal rune
So the game is temporarily unavailable to download until maintenance finishes? E...
The download will be aviable a few hours before patch end
Until then, yes
glacial isle
when does this maintenence end?
glacial isle
when did it start
marble drift
for exact times
glacial isle
and #kupo-bot-spam claims "There is no maintenence"
marble drift
wat o_o
glacial isle
!maint
marble drift
kupo bot is on drugs.
glacial isle
i thought it was over given how people were complaining in genchat
marble drift
nah patch notes got released and they're talkin about that methinks
glacial isle
any changes to BLM or DRK
marble drift
No.
well. Monk's now have a buff for BLM's
in the changes to their raid buff "Brotherhood"
glacial isle
is it lvl 60 or below
marble drift
No.
glacial isle
then it is beyond me
marble drift
you really should get the full game my dude
glacial isle
as soon as I can make money appear from nowhere I'll do that
marble drift
if your financial situation is too dire for a game then you shouldn't be looking into subscription based mmo's
open rivet
^
glacial isle
that's not the problem
marble cosmos
Until then, yes
Thank you so much for the response 
icy horizon
game working yet?
verbal rune
nope
icy horizon
dope
verbal rune
maintenance ends at 10 GMT tomorrow
icy horizon
dope
forest lark
For PS4 players, do you need PS plus as well with the sub?
Bit late, but no. You don't need PS plus to play ffxiv.
Looks like we are all on break from FFxiv today x(
open coral
Enforced break.
kind burrow
XD
warm dove
oh phew, thanks
kind burrow
i am truely sorry for all mentors
warm snow
are people still asking about the maintenance?
zealous flower
it's a bit weird they don't have something that'd let people know this is planned when they try to launch the game itself
warm snow
they did
kind burrow
oblique crypt
I started playing 3 months ago and actually this is my first day off
open coral
It's been all over the Lodestone for like... a week?
warm snow
it's there when you launch, it's the first message in your log when you log in
warm dove
are people still asking about the maintenance?
ye, sorry about that
zealous flower
yes, but it's still bad practice for a planned outage to look like an error
kind burrow
ye, sorry about that
Relatable
zealous flower
this might be the first time someone's logging in in weeks
zealous flower
it is bad practice.
warm snow
a lot can happen in a few weeks
placid kelp
No offense, but this is not a surprise. If you think it's an error, or unplanned, or unexpected, you are incorrect. Sorry to be so blunt. This is planned maintenance, for a major content release. Planned. Reported. Executed.
Quit getting upset because you weren't motivated enough to read the schedules on the forums.
zealous flower
.... nobody's getting upset, i was talking about software and service design
i know they did a reasonable job of informing people, but it is still a bad way of doing things
verbal rune
i.e. it's still poorly planned that during maintenance it shows an error message
warm snow
When was the live letter when they gave the date ?
After which maintenance would have been advertised in the launcher on start up
manic flare
I think @zealous flower has a point. The error message makes it look like an unplanned outage rather than scheduled maintenance for a new patch
zealous flower
when your game says ERROR when it is in fact not an error. it is mistaken information. as a designer you shouldn't display mistaken information, period.
kind burrow
could you please move this out of quetions and help and into #rants
or discussion
idk
wherever this fits
placid kelp
Game goes down for maintenance. You try to use the launcher. The launcher is shut down. You are unable to complete the version check of the launcher because it is shut down for maintenance. Seems pretty straightforward to me. Just saying.
warm snow
I mean, it's a communication error. There's no server to get an error message from
placid kelp
Either way, hope your morning is going well. š
native frigate
with the road to lvl70 xp bonus,
where should i allocated the MSQ xp?
I been using it to lvl up gathering, alongside my arcanist job(heavily overleveled), since I think roulette will give plenty of xp.
open coral
MSQ xp can only go to combat jobs.
warm snow
^^
open coral
Most people will level a second or third job alongside their main job.
verbal rune
with the road to lvl70 xp bonus,
where should i allocated the MSQ xp?
I been us...
level more than one job at once
heck
open coral
To keep from overleveling.
verbal rune
I think you can level 3-4 at once if you want
warm snow
Nothings stopping you levelling all the jobs at once
Aside from level locks and expansion locks
zealous flower
i could've sworn the msqs weren't limited to combat jobs in ARR
boreal storm
And sanity
native frigate
i could've sworn the msqs weren't limited to combat jobs in ARR
Im 99% sure I leveled up my gathering at least for 10 quest with msq
warm snow
And those are locked to lv50
open coral
You cannot turn in any MSQ with a DoH/DoL. You must be an appropriately leveled DoW/DoM.
verbal rune
Im 99% sure I leveled up my gathering at least for 10 quest with msq
it's also not worth it, really
open coral
quests with this marker are MSQ
DoW/DoM quests in general cannot be turned in by DoH/DoL classes.
zealous flower
i definitely remember turning in ARR main quests as doh/dol, it's been a while though, so maybe it wasn't that but SOMETHING changed after ARR about the restrictions ... anyway it's moot since it isn't really worth it
native frigate
it's also not worth it, really
alright, cuz Im a lazy potato,
and I thought the roulette would give enough xp If I wanted to grind battle class.
zinc orbitBOT
open coral
First roulette of the day gives a lot of xp, but subsequent roulettes each day give no more xp than the specific dungeon otherwise would.
verbal rune
alright, cuz Im a lazy potato,
and I thought the roulette would give enough xp I...
roulettes give an exp boost once per day
open coral
So doing more than one roulette every day isn't worth the effort.
verbal rune
after that, it's no different than rerurinng dungeons
warm snow
So reuse levelling lv16-19 ish afterwards don't reuse
And I suppose reusing the guildhest for challenge log too
jade lava
im trying to launch my game but if i try and open the launcher i just get "Unable to complete version check" [30605][504]
zealous flower
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/db/quest/83266250b51/ (nominal lv 15 msq "spoilers") yeah ARR msq aren't limited to dow/dom
jade lava
im free trial if that mattersd
warm snow
We're in maintenance
jade lava
gonna have withdrawal symptoms
warm snow
I think my hour count is off but w/e
boreal storm
Youāre right
dreamy warren
More of an IT problem... the Launcher/Updater wont load. After like 10 minutes I get an error
"Unable to complete Version Check. [30605][20448][10009][10019]"
zealous flower
MSQ from ARR: Class/Job All classes and jobs (excluding limited jobs) Lv. 15 - MSQ from HW: Class/Job Any Disciple of War or Magic (excluding limited jobs) Lv. 50
just had to make sure that i wasn't going crazy and misremembering, lol
warm snow
@dreamy warren it probably tries all the servers, but anyways maintenance for about 17hrs 20 mins or so. All servers are down
warm snow
No such luck, gotta make Mondays extra suck
tidal yarrow
if the maint ends earlier. it's usually how much earlier? can be like even an hour, two?
gotta decide when to wake up.
warm snow
Maint won't end early
tidal yarrow
someone just told me it will probably D:
warm snow
Even if it does they won't give you access til the scheduled time. As people essentially race to be the first in the world to beat the new raid tier
open coral
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ććŖćććØćÆćć£ć¦ćę©ććŖćććØćÆēµ¶åƾćŖć Patch 5.4 maintenance will NEVER END EARLY It's possible for the maintenance to take longer (note: possible), but early end maintenance is definitely not happening.
open coral
That's directly from YoshiP
tidal yarrow
thanks
rich bay
That is always the case when there is a boig patch. They never release it early, because of the testing and giving everyone an even playing field.
oblique yew
do i get a free fantasia after end of every expansion?
glacial isle
ARR
warm snow
ARR special, but I do see it on market board now and then
open coral
Fantasias?
tidal yarrow
i wish man
open coral
I don't think those can be bought and sold on the MB
tidal yarrow
i fucking wish
oblique yew
how much does one cost?
open coral
I think it's like $7 for one Fantasia.
warm snow
If they're not unique you can have 2 in your inventory at once
astral edge
i just tried to load up ffxiv today and i got this
open coral
i just tried to load up ffxiv today and i got this
It's maintenance fam
kind burrow
i just tried to load up ffxiv today and i got this
Jk but its maintainance
warm snow
Let me externally scream rq
astral edge
oh
warm snow
Maintenance for another 17 hours 10 minutes
oblique yew
I think it's like $7 for one Fantasia.
yo. wtf. so much just to change char appearance? and you get to use it only once right?
lilac flume
oh ffxiv is on maint rn? shid
open coral
yo. wtf. so much just to change char appearance? and you get to use it only once...
Once per, yes.
dreamy warren
I feel crazy... Are the Eden's Promise duties new?
open coral
I feel crazy... Are the Eden's Promise duties new?
Yes. Those are new.
dreamy warren
I've never run Umbra, Litany, et
dreamy warren
Phew. Not crazy.
lilac flume
wait is it under maint now or later
dreamy warren
Now and probably later
lilac flume
RIP
warm snow
Try logging in
open coral
Maintenance is currently ongoing.
warm snow
17 hours 10 minuts
open coral
Until like, 6am EST tomorrow morning.
warm snow
You'll probably be able to download the patch in 13 hours or so
kind burrow
hey guys do you think this is too agressive
warm snow
Not aggressive enough
warm snow
Just make up a joint maintenance is going and no it won't end early and I'll be happy
Same
kind burrow
I'm just butt hurt cause I asked that question. lmao
ah i see, dont feel too bad, it happens to everyone
warm snow
We hate the question not the asker, and it's probably most of those peoples' first major patch
open coral
Yeah, we've got a lot of new players who haven't been through a major content patch before.
kind burrow
sorry
twilit arch
this is NOT the channel for memes
twilit arch
ardbert
smoky girder
boreal spoke
tawny quest
Down for maintenance check back tomorrow
boreal spoke
A whole day?
tawny quest
Yes
tawny quest
This was announced in advance
boreal spoke
New storyline?
tawny quest
Yes
boreal spoke
Nice.
verbal rune
also new stuff in general
still cedar
hasty musk
No it didn't iirc
twilit arch
it doesn't because they don't put the new recipes in until after the patch has released
don't want people preparing mats etc
but new tier usually means new food/pots
zinc orbitBOT
verbal rune
They always introduce a new mat anyway
but also use old mats
oblique ridge
Yeah, but most crafters I assume keep a massive stock of most mats anyway. At least for the current expansion.
twilit arch
it would still influence the marketboard, if people knew the recipes before hand
this way everyone is still (to a degree) on an even playing field
main plank
how should the gear progression go for someone who can do extreme but not savage?
wispy parcel
2nd best would be Tomestone gear
Basically you get all the tomestones you can per week and buy the newest gear
warm snow
Iirc the new one is called exarch gear or something like that
wispy parcel
The weekly cap is 450 so thats roughly one piece of gear a week
twilit arch
basically, cap your weekly revelation and get your weekly tokens from the normal mode
main plank
oh, i already have the augmented tome weapon, should i still do relic?
previous tome, ofc
warm snow
Relic is easy and better currently ilevel 500 will be better in 5.45 iirc
celest escarp
need help
warm snow
Maintenance
faint flare
Game is in maint
icy horizon
server maintenence
celest escarp
ooooooh
warm snow
For another 16 hour
icy horizon
check back tomorrow
celest escarp
i just decided to redownload the game
faint flare
You cant patch
warm snow
24 HR maintenance
brave ravine
yep, welcome to the 5.4 world
warm snow
Started 8 hours ago
faint flare
Big patches always have long maintenances
celest escarp
what is this patch
celest escarp
is it good time to return ?
wispy parcel
previous tome, ofc
You need the current relic to unlock the next phase of it. Id say its still worth it
Oh wait
celest escarp
well is it good time to return to game? I used to main tank but willing to pla ydps
wispy parcel
Previous tome would still be good for progression
warm snow
Server will probably be more busier after the patch
wispy parcel
Its always a good time to return to the game
warm snow
That too
wispy parcel
Except today cause 24 hour maintenance
modest igloo
i don't see why it wouldn't be a good time to return
celest escarp
@wispy parcel well fuck me right
š
i was sitting here in wow
nothing to do
just waiting for wednesday to raid
got urge to play ffxiv š
tawny hatch
Yoshi playing train simulators while we suffer here
main plank
i always get confused with gear progression because it takes about 2 weeks to get the new chest from tomes and raid, but wouldn't i be better off doing a mix of tome and raid because using both on chest would just be a waste. the issue is figuring out which pieces to get first
warm snow
Gear progression rule of thumb: high ilevel = better
faint flare
Weapon, chests and legs are highedt priority to upgrade dur to the higher stat returns
warm snow
There's nuance at endgame but for the most part ilevel is how you judge
brave ravine
use tomes to buy bis gear piece, and roll on slots that are not tomes
leaden ginkgo
Is it common to get unable to complete version check in ffxiv?
warm snow
During maintenance ye
brave ravine
for today, yes it is common
warm snow
No servers up to give you an error code
leaden ginkgo
Oh. Severs are down. That explains a lot.
warm snow
Maintenance still has another 16 hours
No it won't be ending early and even if it does they wouldnt tell us/let us in
warm snow
Np, have fun tomorrow
manic flare
is there a good video guide in buying a plot/house?
i have around 7 mil gil, what realistically can i expect?
little swift
!faq housing
zinc orbitBOT
gritty oracle
I mean in the coming months, I wager that entire wards will be empty
little swift
January 22nd would be the first day of autodemo
manic flare
@little swift how do i figure out which plot to buy?
warm snow
Is it empty?
little swift
You see if the plot is empty
warm snow
There you go
manic flare
I mean in the coming months, I wager that entire wards will be empty
why is that
warm snow
Auto demolition has been re enabled
cinder tusk
hello, im very new here. and i just installed my ffxiv again from long time not playing it. my client is unable to check version. is it because of maintenance?
warm snow
Maintenance
little swift
Autodemolition is returning with this patch
warm snow
For 15.5 more hours @cinder tusk
manic flare
what is autodemolition
warm snow
No it won't be ending early
little swift
If you don't go into your house you lose it basically
cinder tusk
For 15.5 more hours <@246655877833162754>
ah, thank you :D. that's explain why i cant do anything to my ffxiv
manic flare
are there going to be new plots with this next update?
warm snow
No
manic flare
so it's better to wait in a few months, when more plots are open?
little swift
Houses exist in wards so people can have the neighbourhood feeling
manic flare
and prices will be lower?
gritty oracle
January 22nd would be the first day of autodemo
Actually auto demo wasn't reset, just frozen. So if someone was at 44 days when it was frozen, they could lose their house by the 9th.
warm snow
No
manic flare
regardless of supply/demand
little swift
Prices don't change
twilit arch
you can't bank on devaluation
manic flare
so what's there to prevent rich ppl from buying up all the plots?
twilit arch
especially on NA/EU servers
warm snow
You can only have one plot afaik
twilit arch
yes
warm snow
@white eagle 15.5 more hours
manic flare
@warm snow but ppl with 8 characters/world can buy up to 8 houses in one world?
white eagle
OOF
warm snow
And it won't end early
little swift
are the servers still under main ?
Yes use !maint in #kupo-bot-spam o check
white eagle
ahh thank you
warm snow
First come first serve afaik
manic flare
we will still have time after the maintenance to clear our dailies for monday?
manic flare
do u guys not recommend loggin in right after maintenance ends?
because of torrent of people logging in and crashing the servers?
should we maybe weait like 2-3 hours?
vocal canyon
if i uninstall ffxiv, will it get rid of all my screenshots and personal settings?
warm snow
A) this happens every patch so the servers are prepped for the torrent
manic flare
so technically i guess we will only have like 2 hours to clear our dailies then?
practically speaking
warm snow
Why would you be in installing ff14
remote lintel
@vocal canyon yes iirc
vocal canyon
i'm getting this launcher error and its the last thing i haven't tried
warm snow
@vocal canyon if its the error message that's because servers are all down for maintenance
remote lintel
what error
warm snow
For another 15.5 hours
remote lintel
yeah
warm snow
And no it won't end early
vocal canyon
oh really? i can't even open my launcher
warm snow
Yup
vocal canyon
i thought i'd at least be able to open it
warm snow
Nope
manic flare
historically speaking
even in early morning after a patch update, is there still gonna be a huge queue time? even at 5 AM?
warm snow
Depends on timezone
warm snow
But there probably will be a bigger queue than usual for that time
vocal canyon
well i was messing with the game files a bit, i hope that isn't bad
manic flare
like in hundreds maybe @warm snow?
warm snow
5am means more casual players won't be awake. That's the only applicable logic
vocal canyon
i just tried the cfg boot file edit
warm snow
Well you won't know how badly you've fucked up for a while
manic flare
whats the breakdown of casual vs noncasual players in ffxiv
vocal canyon
what does that mean
warm snow
Launcher will probably be back up in about 12 hours so you can download the new patch @vocal canyon
Launcher will be usable again before maintenance ends
remote lintel
casual and non casual is subjective
warm snow
I don't fucking know buoy
vocal canyon
the edit i tried was under an official forum guide so i assume it won't mean anything
warm snow
Let's hope
And if it did screw it up you'll be able to find out and reinstall if necessary in about 12 hours
little swift
If you're referring to number of players that complete endgame content (savage+) that's a small population according to the luckybancho and fflogs data @manic flare
vocal canyon
i'm more worried about any punishments for editing files
remote lintel
if it's not a mod then you won't be
vocal canyon
but the edit was recommended by a forum moderator so, i guess not
it was just changing the bootversioncheckmode from 0 to 1, and i changed it back
warm snow
If that did it you'll probably get a more specific version check failed message
remote lintel
they can't tell what you do with the files
ripe hound
Servers are now down right?
little swift
0 to 1 just means it sets the client to recognize that you have a game license registered to your account
Yes akira
For like 15 more hours
remote lintel
a few days after patch probably
ripe hound
kk
zinc orbitBOT
twilit arch
BiS will be figured out once datamining is done
and since the patch isn't available for download yet, no datamining is possible
manic flare
what does best in slot mean?
remote lintel
the best combination of gear
little swift
It means literally as it says
remote lintel
for that class
warm snow
Best in head slot, chest slot etc.
little swift
Best piece of gear for that particular slot to equip for that job
dreamy tartan
eta on servers coming bck online?
remote lintel
5 am est
little swift
15 hours
dreamy tartan
k
full lake
Can the maintenance take less than 24 hours?
faint flare
No
full lake
awww :((
vocal canyon
what error
i'm not sure if i was getting the error message before maint started, but it was a different error code than what i'm seeing others have, so not sure if its maint or a personal issue
faint flare
Maintenance is NEVER up early when savage is being added
Otherwise it fucks with the world race
dense sigil
how long does a patch last? if i grind to max level can i still enjoy the patch or should a noob not even try
full lake
Which expansion are you in? @dense sigil
dense sigil
im still in ARR BUT im nearing heavensward i believe
full lake
Nope, just enjoy the story
dense sigil
still 15 levels or so to go tho
full lake
take your time and avoid spoilers.
Rule 1: Never rush Main Scenario Quest, it's a treasure
forest inlet
the content coming out now wont go anywhere ppl will do it until the next expac u have plenty of time
cunning wind
Getting an error with the launcher where it can't confirm it's version, help plz?
full lake
ARR is literally 7 years old and people can still enjoy it
dense sigil
oh nice
dense sigil
how do you get the new gear? im not even close but im just curious
cunning wind
Oh my god I forgot about the maintenance today, I thought my FF broke I was losing my mind
dense sigil
OHHH okok
faint flare
Crafted gear is a good stepping stone
faint flare
Thats the point
raven sage
asking is how you learn
faint flare
Of the channel
dense sigil
do you recommend any basic guides? ive tried looking some up but like i already knew everything they were talking about
faint flare
!faq newplayertips
zinc orbitBOT
dense sigil
oh wow cool
faint flare
For basics
forest inlet
if ur still in ARR u have like 5 buttons you press for now, if you want to read job guides you can check the balance for example
dense sigil
the balance?
zinc orbitBOT
forest inlet
?
forest inlet
yeah, if ur looking for general gametips then whatever the guy posted above
remote lintel
weskalber on youtube does good class leveling guides
manic flare
is there gonna be new ishgard stuff in this update?
tidal yarrow
is there like data/info about the % of each race played?
warm snow
@manic flare not yet iirc
faint flare
Ishgard restoration is 5.41 so not this patch
warm snow
Tools are 5.45 iirc
faint flare
5.41 should be in around 2 weeks
remote lintel
@tidal yarrow not accurate ones
tidal yarrow
ew :c
hasty musk
It's probably safe to say Miqote is the most played race
short plover
Can we download the patch yet? I know that quite often we can download patches during maintenance
remote lintel
no
twilit arch
usually it'll be in the later half of the maint
short plover
aight
hopefully within the next 6 hours or so then, so i can actually get a full nights sleep before waking up for servers going back up xD
real trench
Game is still down or is it just me?
raven sage
It's a 24 hour maintenance so yes
short plover
Yea it's not scheduled to finish for another 15 hours or so
real trench
Oh I thought it was a short one, thanks guys
tepid cape
i'm getting an unable to complete version check error, is that normal during an update?
remote lintel
you cant launch the launcher during a maint
until we can download the update later
tepid cape
right okay, was just making there wasn't something wrong with my launcher.
celest fern
dumb question, is there a way to do a quick 180 degree turn?
some games have that, soem don't, and the quick camera turn with [V] made me wanna ask lol
remote lintel
not really?
leaden ginkgo
I wasn't too familiar with MNK before but basically they used to have to build up the greased lightning buff and now it's just passive? Does GL always have the same effect of speeding you up (in a general sense)?