or reset at the very least
#questions-and-help
twilit arch
hasty musk
there are some restrictions on the free trial, but if you like what you can do then you can buy it afterwards
jade quartz
!faq freetrial
zinc orbitBOT
ebon notch
Eh the games only like 15 for the one with all 3 dlc
lost grove
@twilit arch I am . Just wanted the glam
marble drift
right but it uses a subscription model
jade quartz
There's a monthly subscription
vagrant tulip
worth it tho
ebon notch
For this game separately?
jade quartz
!faq subprice
zinc orbitBOT
jade quartz
Two decades.
marble drift
right.
jade quartz
A quarter of a century.
vagrant tulip
@jade quartz on it today ❤️
marble drift
Jesus fuck we're old.
vagrant tulip
lmao
hasty musk
when you buy the game you get 30 days free, then afterwards you have to start paying a sub
You can get 15 extra days if you get to level 30 on a preferred server, but that's it
marble drift
its 30 days total, not playtime based.
ebon notch
That’s not so bad. Can I purchase the currency through the PlayStation store cards
jade quartz
What currency
hasty musk
No, you can't buy gil
hasty musk
oh idk, I'm not a ps4 player
ebon notch
Ah makes sense
jade quartz
You can't buy subscription time through PSN cards no
that's all handled through the FFXIV account website
zinc orbitBOT
ebon notch
So it’s just 13$s a month?
jade quartz
yes
ebon notch
Cool, that makes sense
marble drift
That gets you 1 character per server. But you generally won't need to make more than 1 character because you can play every class on a single character.
bold mica
the free trial you mean
hasty musk
?
marble drift
No. Entry subscriptions get you 1 character per server
bold mica
I have 2 characters on the same server and I am paying a normal subscription
jade quartz
entry subscription
marble drift
^
twilit arch
then you're on standard subscription, not entry
vagrant tulip
Any penalty or change in rewards if doing a quest and it gives you the option to complete it on anything other than Normal?
vagrant tulip
Is it just like a mercy thing?
jade quartz
yeah
vagrant tulip
F lol
vagrant tulip
cant finish Blood onthe Deck
jade quartz
Ensure you're well-geared and use healing stuff (bloodbath, second wind)
beware of the Vanara add's big frontal cleave swipe
it has no ground indicator, just don't be in front of it when it raises its arm for a big swipe.
jade quartz
oblique crypt
I'm fresh lvl 80 and done with shadowbringer story. The upgraded relic weapon is ilvl 500 and not that hard to get, right?
hasty musk
Correct
jade quartz
You must complete the level 70 Ivalice alliance raid series to start it though
oblique crypt
OK nice. Armor and accessory I would craft myself the neo ishgardian things and upgrade it.
@jade quartz yeah, I will do that the next days 😀
Are the raids hard with randoms?
jade quartz
i mean the ivalice ones do have some harsher mechanics
oblique crypt
OK crystal was OK. Even I didn't know what I was doing
jade quartz
so you'll probably die a bunch of times
hasty musk
shoutout to TG
jade quartz
but you'll get through in one shot fine
gritty kite
Does the ARR dialogues matter a lot?
oblique crypt
Are the upgraded neo ishgardian things OK?
hasty musk
you should at least get the gist of what's being said
oblique crypt
OK thx
marble drift
-starts quoting final boss lines from Rabanastre for no reason- >_>
jade quartz
but if you care about story
oblique crypt
Story is nice. More after ARR tbh
jade quartz
I certainly wouldn't recommend skipping stuff
oblique crypt
SB was quite awesome
hasty musk
as long as you understand the general gist of what's happening, then you'll probably be fine
because it will come up later
gritty kite
Mhh- but if I don't read it all of it I don't know if I am missing any information that might be considered general gist 
hasty musk
I mean if you need clarification on anything you can always go back and watch it later or ask in #archived-lore-spoilers or something
marble drift
you can watch stuff on youtube if you're interested in story
Ethys Asher on youtube is A++ for story beads you wanna catch up on.
good podcast stuff.
oblique crypt
If you are a good reader, you can see pretty fast, what might be important. And skip smalltalk
😀
gritty kite
I'm not a good reader. ;3;
gritty kite
If I watch the youtube stuff, do I still wanna read things
marble drift
you can supplement maybe
or just skip and come back to it. your call
you play how you wanna play.
gritty kite
this is overwhelming
hollow wraith
When I was trying to get dun scaith gear it could take up to an hour to queue as a healer. So yeah they don't seem popular.
patent citrus
what's the 2nd option for leveling alt after spamming dungeon? tank/healer
hasty musk
potd/hoh
patent citrus
can i use beast tribe method? or is it too slow?
bold mica
12 per day means 4 tribes if no promotion happens on any
they are stil limited , they aren't spammable
patent citrus
how long does it take to finish 12 usually? 😂 average
zinc orbitBOT
lost grove
@hollow wraith welp just wanted to glam my smn
marble drift
generally you are assigned mirrors
incase its scythe-true
aka scythe and stack
so you know who your partner is
potent lava
so aside from your main GC front, where else can I submit provisions? I vaguely remember there being a npc in the field
marble drift
@kind eagle you should still be following a macro no? it should be in there
jade quartz
@potent lava you can also turn in supply and provisioning missions to Grand Company Levemetes
but most of them are in much less convenient places then just going to your GC headquarters
which is what everyone does
marble drift
then that party is a trap. abandon all hope.
kind eagle
we been retrying it
and they didnt say
our mistake
just keep doing with no one talking
marble drift
welcome to super late patch pugs my friend.
potent lava
I see
though looking on the list it seems some are closer to their aetheryte than the Flames one
Eh whatever, thanks still
vocal shell
If it’s true stack
vocal shell
yeah i’d ditch that party
tame magnet
Is samurai viable on hardcore raid statics? I mean i heard he has 0 party utility
marble drift
or they get a concussion
hasty musk
Sam does big damage
jade quartz
yes completely viable
marble drift
All classes are viable
jade quartz
all jobs are viable
vocal shell
Samurai makes up with it with their high dps
hasty musk
that's its utility
jade quartz
!faq meta
zinc orbitBOT
vocal shell
But every job is viable
jade quartz
the meta is play what is fun to you
marble drift
Samurai can turn other party buffs into BIG fuggin' dps
tame magnet
Ok
Any particilar class requested more? I mean like any class popularity lacks on cap?
kind eagle
shiva keep fking my cooldown
jade quartz
the meta is play what is fun to you
hasty musk
it doesn't matter enough that it would affect who you should pick
jade quartz
It's really not something you should be concerned about when deciding what to play.
hasty musk
a good Bard will always be worth more than, say, a shitty Samurai
that's cross role technically, but the point stands
bold mica
most requested class is a player who knows how to press their buttons
tame magnet
Ok gotta try sticking with it. like i heard those words tones of times in almost any game, but it never was true when it comes to hardcore cap raids
tame magnet
bold mica
tbh not really in almost every game
jade quartz
The kind of huge balance difference that we complain about in this game is like
10%
that's the most extreme it gets
and nothing's on that level currently
bold mica
while in other games it is usually 30-50%
patent citrus
which games? 🤔
bold mica
retail WoW
marble drift
and FFXIV's dev knows how to play.
patent citrus
how to balance in wow = asking unpaid intern to enter random numbers in randomness/damage/boss difficulty
hasty musk
shout out to Yoshi-P showing up in someone's raid that one time
bold mica
well WoW devs main warlocks for more than a decade, what do FFXIV devs main
patent citrus
and then nerf it when people complain
marble drift
That was on my data center too. I thought that was super cool.
Yoshi-P is a black mage through and through
tame magnet
EU community mostly stick with casual soloplay with some raids with randoms?
I mean i do believe this game is popular, but checking discords of top15 chaos/light guilds i see literally almost dead channels 
patent citrus
how to make UI beautiful in wow = outsource it to people to develop their own addon 😂
bold mica
people form statics for raiding
hasty musk
You can raid on any datacenter, though
bold mica
no need to be on an fc
jade quartz
what do you mean by guilds
patent citrus
Wot, EU has high raid clearance rate 😂
tame magnet
I mean like as an example i've joined FC called Death per Second, top16 on Chaos, was top1 on smth score for previous month. But discord of the guild is deadmill
bold mica
static = 8 people together doing raids
hasty musk
what are you talking about
bold mica
raiding is separate from FCs
tame magnet
Yes
hasty musk
that has nothing to do with raiding
jade quartz
utterly meaningless
patent citrus
FC = Social Aspect
jade quartz
never look at it again lol
bold mica
fcs are basically there only for the buffs and the housing
patent citrus
Static = Raid
jade quartz
Anyway people in this community gravitate to larger community discords
kinda like this one
There aren't like large raid "guilds"
mainly because high-difficulty raids in this game are 8-man content
tame magnet
jade quartz
so you don't need to have like a backup of 30 people to pull from to fill raid slots if some people don't show up like you might in, say, WoW
hasty musk
the biggest raids get are alliance raids, and those are easy
tame magnet
So basically FC give just chitchat and raids are all about 8-ppl static which is another story
jade quartz
yeah
tame magnet
Ok time to pick Samurai and guild with a funny name, thanks for help mates
jade quartz
to top it all off samurai is like the top melee at the moment anyway
patent citrus
yeh, time to spam those midare 😂
marble drift
Its really kinda smooth to play.
When a class deals more in a single blow than it has health
jade quartz
though it's by less than 2% dps at the highest skill levels
tame magnet
I don't like melees much and i was gonna stick with archers bcz i don't like 1,5hr casts on corcs either
But when i saw his animations... God damn
jade quartz
1,5hr casts on corcs either
what do you mean??
hasty musk
I assume you're talking about cast times
tame magnet
Or was it healer, i just watched random streams and i saw ppl standing on spot with cast times like 5 secs
hasty musk
yeah, that's for casters
jade quartz
Cast times are <2.5 seconds
marble drift
the only 5 second cast time is teleport? o_O
tame magnet
they can move tho, so it's not that much of a problem, but i don't like that dunno why
jade quartz
you cannot move while casting
bold mica
yes
jade quartz
that's the boss cast yeah lol
tame magnet
oops 
bold mica
you can see on the top right of that screeny the enemy frames
tame magnet
I thought so first, but then i was like "I doubt they have DBM here"
tame magnet
built-in DBM 
hasty musk
you can adjust the size of most UI elements
bold mica
and doesn't make your character type in say chat on mechanics that are like ticking bombs
jade quartz
you can do ACT triggers to get sound queues (addon)
some people do it
it's not the baseline
nothing like the state of WoW with addons
the only real addon used in this game is ACT which is a parser
(technically against the TOS but realistically SE knows everyone uses it, it's fine just as long as you don't talk about it ingame or yell at randoms for having low dps numbers)
tame magnet
DPS is life 
tame magnet
imagine not knowing HOW cool you are
zinc orbitBOT
hasty musk
I'm so cool my cool percent turned blue one time
dreamy warren
Can you complete Born Again Anima dungeons unsync?
leaden ginkgo
yes
opaque pewter
How many consecutive days, including bonus quests does it take to reach bloodsworn with beast tribes? Is it the same across the board? If not, how many for dwarves?
outer plank
@opaque pewter someone did the math for me, i think they said like 20-30 days
green grail
yeah, for all tribes that aren't ARR
it's level 8 iirc, but you start at level 3? or something along those lines, so pretty much level 5 yeah
just do the dailies and 3-4 weeks you'll get max rank
patent citrus
naisu, ty ty
zinc orbitBOT
patent citrus
not sure if this helps https://steamcommunity.com/app/39210/discussions/0/34095684567443349/
gentle leaf
i'll take a look
patent citrus
would recommend skipping deleting all the content inside that folder though
cause it contains all the chat log and your character setting
gentle leaf
that could be the issue
my pc randomly decided to launch one drive
and downloaded data from too long ago
possible that that caused clash?
patent citrus
probably 🤔
verbal rune
btw
do I have to download additional stuff if I buy the game and have free version?
or free version has already everything in it, but it's simply not accessible?
small marsh
You still have to download more files
At least I had to when I bought the complete edition
If you buy only ARR+HW there is probably less to download
It didn’t take that long. I have the slowest internet plan available from Comcast and it took me like 10 min?
leaden ginkgo
Hey I have a question for any of the console players. How do you discord friends without them hearing your game audio? I don’t want to have to mute my game cause the music in this game is amazing but I also don’t want my friends to constantly hear my end
zinc orbitBOT
patent citrus
yeh same problem with pc player, not only console 😂
small marsh
Phone and AirPods pog
leaden ginkgo
But wouldn’t my friends hear my game audio?
small marsh
They might hear very minimally...
It’s just like if you hear background noise on the other end of a phone call
Very minimal
verbal rune
yeah
but how much? Like... we talking like 1-2 GB or 20-30?
regarding the update files from free trial to complete edition
leaden ginkgo
hi guys, saw the dreadwyrm gear and it looks pretty cool. any idea where to get them? blm here
zinc orbitBOT
marble drift
dreadwyrm is the name of the gear from the last 4 fights from Binding Coil of Bahamut
BUT you can get crafted gear (which I believe makes it dyable) off the marketboard
or from a crafter
Binding Coil of Bahamut is the level 50 raid tier. Very old, soloable (with alot of effort, best to bring friends instead)
verbal rune
ok, got it
leaden ginkgo
dreadwyrm is the name of the gear from the last 4 fights from Binding Coil of Ba...
thanks for the reply. i heard horror stories of the bahamut dungeons being difficult
marble drift
The 2nd to last one is a massive pain in the ass when going in blind.
The Coils (as they are known) predate Savage raids. There was no normal there was just the raids. So they were tuned a little higher than your average normal raid.
but yeah, take some friends and some paitence or get to grinding that marketboard. the craftable stuff is probably better anyway.
verbal rune
also because of that, you can't queue for coils as in you can for Alexander
marble drift
^
Alex normals are fun and interactive, generally you know what the hell is going on with little effort. Coils are like "What? you didn't know that big rock golems consume the meteors? well too bad FUCK YOU p e r i s h"
hollow wraith
Are alex savage more like coils in terms of mechanics?
dreamy warren
What's current top tier armor?
hollow wraith
Some of them are just lol
marble drift
Depends on who you ask.
@dreamy warren the highest item level stuff is Augmented Crystarium/Edenchoir (from Eden's Verse Savage)
dreamy warren
I guess I should preface with: I dont PVP, I dont raid. I just do MSQ and stuff.
marble drift
first option then
robust crow
current BiS for all classes is a combination of augmented crystarium + Eden savage gear
marble drift
Augmented Crystarium
robust crow
most classes use the weapon from e8s as well
dreamy warren
I have the new Gerolt weapon for my main
robust crow
which is good, but isn't best in slot unless you are a healer
hasty musk
they just said they don't raid
robust crow
sure, they don't raid, but they asked about top tier armor 
open ember
Augmentd Crystarium is the best for non raiders rn
patent citrus
yeh, just spam normal eden verse 🤔 they drop 480 ilvl gear or you can craft yourself neo-ishgardian stuffs
robust crow
it will literally take numerous months to get a full set of augmented crystarium
needless to say, you don't have time anymore
robust crow
it's going to realistically be some combination of 495 bozja gear, your relic weapon, and whatever pieces of i500 crystarium you can finish before 5.4
unless you somehow get through a few bosses of savage eden before 5.4
open ember
If they're not gonna wait for 5.4 then its edencall gear or neo-ishgard
or bozja gear
robust crow
puppet's bunker gear as well
dreamy warren
Who knew it would be such a hot topic.
open ember
Ideally I think edencall is kinda meh because you might as well just. Wait anyway
open ember
Just get edencall if you need something for 5.4 is probably gonna be the final answer we'll give you
leaden ginkgo
Is there a link to other ffxiv discord servers ?
leaden ginkgo
Ty
leaden ginkgo
5.4 is coming
good grief and i only just started shadowbringers lol
open ember
5.4 is only a few handful of quests lol
For Shadowbringers
You're never too late to play Shadowbringers
hasty musk
and if you're planning on doing raids, then you'll have to do the old ones anyway
karmic niche
Go for 490
zinc orbitBOT
small marsh
So like all these lv45 and lv50 job quest gears
Do y’all end up just putting them into the glamour dresser
marble drift
armoire
small marsh
Yeah THAT
marble drift
generally yeah
fiery fjord
do you have to have to log out in an inn to get rest xp?
hasty musk
you just need to log out in a sanctuary zone iirc
marble drift
just in a sanctuary
fiery fjord
how long does it last?
marble drift
if you log out via the bed, you get a litte cute cutscene where you "log in" via the bed
until its used or capped
fiery fjord
how can you tell that
marble drift
generally 2+ days of afking iirc.
Im not sure it possible to tell when you're capped. as the cap is generally more than your xp bar.
jade quartz
!faq restedexp
zinc orbitBOT
jade quartz
You can't tell when you're capped
honest anvil
in the active time bit of seat of sacrifice, if a party fails, do subsequent attempts still ask for everyone to succeed to proceed or will it be more lenient?
faint flare
It doesn't change
honest anvil
My duty finder party just failed at that bit twice somehow ...
faint flare
If 1 person fails, everyone does
honest anvil
is there a way to know who fail?
jade quartz
No
honest anvil
that’s nice in a way ig ...
patent citrus
yeh, everyone has to suceed
leaden ginkgo
I assume most people who play this game have really big egos
We got KOd at the final boss in a dungeon and everyone left
Like I really don't know
This has happened many times
patent citrus
oo what dungeon
patent citrus
multiple times? o_o
forest laurel
whatever the highest leveling dungeon is for you.
so qitana until 77
malikah until 79
mt gulg until 80
ofc do roulettes as well
leaden ginkgo
Ahh thank you 
crimson crystal
I've gotten vote dismissed once as healer because I was new and tank was a sprinter/big puller so he died
It was a sad feeling
leaden ginkgo
hey, just wondering, warriors have more hp than paladins right ? even if they have the same gear, how is that difference ? is there any base stats depedning on your job ? if yes, is there any place where I can check them ?
patent citrus
is that true? how did you make the comparison?
leaden ginkgo
I dont know, i am asking 😄
patent citrus
but you claimed warrios have more hp than paladins 😂
if you mean warriors have increase hp skills, yes they do
it's called thrill of battle
leaden ginkgo
but you claimed warrios have more hp than paladins 😂
I always heard like "pld has more defense and war has more hp"
and thats how they tank
one with defense, other one with hp
I mean I heard that years ago when I started the game lol
maybe its totally false and both jobs have the exact same stats at the same lvl and gear
jade quartz
their old tank stances functioned like that
patent citrus
I've gotten vote dismissed once as healer because I was new and tank was a sprin...
that's just sad
jade quartz
which of course you aimed to have off most of the time anyway
zinc orbitBOT
patent citrus
I think it happened to me once when i level'd my first healer, but it was clear that the other 3 was bunch of bullies
leaden ginkgo
so currently the only thing that is important for stats is only the gear ? different jobs with the exact same gear will always have the exact same stats ?
patent citrus
premade group, so i took a lot of screenshot and reported them all
i never met them since then
leaden ginkgo
I mean except some little differences like war weapons giving critical hits and pld gives determination
for example all tanks have the same hp and defense ?
leaden ginkgo
I see, so there cant be technical reasons to play another class except gameplay ?
jade quartz
?
crimson crystal
What's that command....
jade quartz
They have different strengths due to their different toolsets
leaden ginkgo
I mean you can't tell "I play this tank instead of this one cause he has better base stats so he's better"
crimson crystal
Play the class you want
jade quartz
not due to their stat numbers.
leaden ginkgo
thats what i am asking
im pretty far in the game but never thought about that lol
I know pld makes the less damages between all the tanks
crimson crystal
Yeah no one really gets into tiny differences unless you're doing pretty hard core stuff
jade quartz
that's not true
leaden ginkgo
but thats skills, nothing to do with base stats or smth like that
I mean WAR for example makes more damages than pld
when playing WAR I feel like playing a dps
jade quartz
Paladin is the second-highest DPS tank at the highest skill levels
but the margin of difference is so small that no one picks on that basis
WAR is a smidgen lower.
leaden ginkgo
that wasnt the point of my question lol but I get it
robust crow
it goes gnb > pld > war > drk right now assuming highest skill
leaden ginkgo
just thought there was some type of base stats or smth like that that made some jobs better for that or that etc.
jade quartz
I'm saying that what you thought you "knew" was not correct
leaden ginkgo
like for example as I said war could have more hp
leaden ginkgo
I'm saying that what you thought you "knew" was not correct
and thats the type of answer I wanted to get 😄 ty
so only skill set matter
jade quartz
I mean, when you get into substat choices the different tanks have different preferences
due to how those stats interact with elements of their toolkits
leaden ginkgo
yeah I know that, but its about gear and not "base stats" or anything like that
like a fully naked character, whatever job he will wear, will have always the same stats
then gear makes him good for his job
my question was very simple and you answered it, you just telling me more and thats making the conversation lil bit confusing
but thanks a lot for clarifying all that 😄
tame magnet
Buying 70-level-char boost won't skip anything needed and i can just proceed playing up to 80 smoothly?
alpine shadow
Level char boost does not skip story iirc, so you would need to do the msq.
sour ruin
Yup, the story skips are separate items, and they conversely do not give your character any levels
tame magnet
so bad then
zinc orbitBOT
jade quartz
!faq armouryexp
zinc orbitBOT
true jolt
Quick question for player who omni job DoM/DoW
After you maxed the non main job to lvl80 did you keep playing it or just leave it till next patch?
If you guys keep playing it, did you guys farm the specific weapon for that job (and maybe acc for some melee dps class) or just leave gear them using any shared gear?
agile laurel
i have a priority order
fiery fjord
yeah im reading that but do you need to have a character at 70
in order to unlock it or something
agile laurel
of jobs i actually enjoy playing, or get time out of
jade quartz
The answer is there.
agile laurel
because while i have omni80 I obviously have mains
true jolt
For example if ialready decided my mains, what to do with the other jobs?
fiery fjord
oh i see ty
agile laurel
i try to play every job in the game at a 'can take this into savage right now' level of competency, so I try to practice and keep fresh on ones I don't play too often
true jolt
Hmm, i think MMex gear give some problem to me since i cant share the gear. Forcing me to use the ilvl430 and locked out from roullete :(
agile laurel
but I'm not going to attempt to get every completed relic weapon, like
true jolt
Usually you can just share the gear right? Excluding melee dps
agile laurel
yeah
i just clear savage on jobs i enjoy for practice and maybe use the coffers to gear alt jobs if I don't need them on my mains, which i don't
true jolt
Curse you mmex! 
But thanks for the answer
I see. While savage is not my main content to play, i enjoy playing extreme trial, maybe will try to use them. After i gear them up @_@
agile laurel
i'd say 'just buy neo ishgardian' but that's a questionable investment this close to 5.4
true jolt
Agree, but 5.4 crafted gear will also very expensive on early week
I'm no millionare ahaha
oblique trellis
Where can I buy a suit for someones EB ceremony?
foggy bramble
Question; is there a way to set up Shift/Alt Macros like in WoW so that I can set up a single button to do multiple things depending on what modifier I'm holding?
Like so I can have 3 be Medica 2, but then Shift+3 casts the AoE Heal Bubble?
jade quartz
you can buy the Best Man's suit from Sunsilk Tapestries near the Ul'dah aetheryte
oblique trellis
Yeah just found it... do I..put it on a glamor plate?
patent citrus
yeh usually..
jade quartz
Question; is there a way to set up Shift/Alt Macros like in WoW so that I can se...
yes of course, just go into keybinds
system menu > keybinds
you have ctrl modifiers on your second hotbar by default
and you can also use shift and alt as modifiers.
Not a "macro", btw
true jolt
I think you can also assign it to hotbard ans hide the hotbar if you can remember the skill assigned and want to avoid cluttered HUD
zinc orbitBOT
jade quartz
That's not really what was asked and I wouldn't recommend it except for very experienced players with a fixed layout that they've known for a long time and are extremely comfortable with.
vagrant tulip
Glamoured gear cant be carried over to multiple main gear correct?
jade quartz
What do you mean?
vagrant tulip
(have not done this yet..sorry lol ) like I try to glamour a piece of gear on another say like an ironworks piece, would the glamour only be on tht piece of main gear?
for give my ignoran e
any my typing
faint flare
You can reuse glamour as much as you want
jade quartz
The piece of gear is not destroyed
its appearance is simply copied onto the ironworks piece
the original remains in your inventory
vagrant tulip
So i could send that piece of cosmetic gear onto another at a later time? it isnt bound to that piece of main gear?
jade quartz
correct
zinc lagoon
i have aquestion
im doing the zordiac weapon quest line to upgarde my arr relic weapon its asking for 12 atma now is that 12 per weapon i hold or 12 all together
the weapon im doing first is Curtana
remote lintel
12 for each weapon
remote lintel
oh pld
zinc lagoon
ok next question
which atma would i need for PLD then
cause i want to get used to the grinding if you can understand what im asking 🙂
remote lintel
wym which atma
zinc lagoon
which Atma dose Curtana need 🙂
i never did the relic weapon quest line the onyl one i done is the resistance one
zinc orbitBOT
zinc lagoon
so all 12 atma's to upgarde the curtana to the atma then
jade quartz
Yes, one of each unique type.
This is explained in detail in the quest
and in the journal entry for the quest, if you go check it.
crimson crystal
there's also a really good spreadsheet guide out there to help keep track of stuff
broken fulcrum
Hey guys, I am a new player and not really sure what to expect if I dive into ffxiv and figured this discord could help me out. How long does it take to be max level or at least experience end game content? That seems to be what people say the game does really well, so I dont really want to spend months just getting to the good stuff. Also, I usually like playing as a healer, but I know ffxiv does things a little differently with jobs. Am I still capable of playing solo? The things I like the most about mmos is dungeons and raids so is there a lot of that available too? Sorry for the newbie questions I just didnt know where to go
robust crow
well
robust crow
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"max level" doesn't matter, you're gated by story progress. you could have five level 80s but if you haven't done the story then you can't do endgame content anyway
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story takes anywhere between one to three months depending on your pace
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"the good stuff" is usually considered the story itself. ff14's story is very good, you'd be doing yourself a disservice skipping all of it
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endgame raiding is also good, but take your time getting there.
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healers in ff14 are expected to be doing as much DPS as they can when the party doesn't need healing
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the game is pretty much designed to be played solo like a mainline final fantasy, but you group up for dungeons and bosses along the story
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yes there are a lot of dungeons and bosses
people typically start loving the story after level 50
early levels are pretty slow in both storytelling and gameplay
a lot of players don't hit their stride until the 60s
which is also when your class starts feeling like a complete class
broken fulcrum
okay that makes sense, thanks for the long response!
so then, how long should i expect to get to level 50 😅
robust crow
if you played 8 hours a day, probably one or two weeks
robust crow
in ff14 your goal usually is not to blow through the whole story to get to endgame like in wow
you're more likely to enjoy ff14 if you level at your own pace and enjoy the story
that's not to say you can't blow through the story
but you're going to be pretty fucking lost when it comes to the raids and why you're doing them
jade quartz
Trying to grind through the story fast to get it out of the way is also a surefire way to burn out
and end up quitting
broken fulcrum
okay that makes sense. im not against enjoying the story im just looking to really get into an mmo cuz ive never really done that. and in the past dungeons and raids have been my favorite thing in other games
robust crow
i would say your first raids start at level 50 when you unlock the first series of 24-man raids
jade quartz
You will do plenty of dungeons during the story.
robust crow
the first "endgame" style raid starts at level 60 with 8 man content
broken fulcrum
gotchaa
robust crow
have you played any other final fantasy games before?
ff14 is a love letter to all the fans of previous FFs
broken fulcrum
no i havent, ive heard good things about them but ive been too scared at the scope of them hahaha
maybe thats just xv trailer talking
robust crow
yes kawa if you make the alt on a preferred server
how far is your alt?
if they're not too far in, remaking is probably worth it
err yeah if you've spent some money on it then idk
i guess that's up to you
double exp for every class up to 70 is a big deal though
remote lintel
road to 70 isn't worth 3$ imo
wintry chasm
I mean
remote lintel
or 6 if you plan to buy the thing again
wintry chasm
I'd pay 3 dollars for road to 70 easy but up to you
remote lintel
you could do 2 jobs
robust crow
only for that class
remote lintel
for that class
robust crow
all your jobs benefit from it until they hit 70
people powerleveled crafters to 70 with it
remote lintel
it's not hard to power level crafters even without the road to 70
wym
it would still cost materials with road to 70
you would spend less materials sure but ishgard mats aren't that expensive in the first place
gritty oracle
where can I see the male elezen /pdead?
ashen pendant
other than undersea rain, what else can i use my tomestones of phantasmagoria on lol
zinc orbitBOT
fallen niche
Any quicker ways on getting a gatherer from 48-57 other than ishgard resto
Or just keep doing ishgard resto
wintry chasm
Gathering leves are faster than restoration but restoration is nice for getting crafting mats for crafter leveling and scrips
Also remember to do custom deliveries each week when you unlock that
fallen niche
pretty sure I exhausted all my deliveries already
It seems like a lot of the deliveries are linked, so if you exhaust your allowances with Khloe, you exhaust your allowances with Kai-shirr.
gritty oracle
do you have manual and food buff on?
gritty oracle
also you should have separate allowances for everyone. You have 12 allowances total, but you can spend them on anything you'd likeű
wintry chasm
Well not quite
gritty oracle
yeah only 6 per person
jade quartz
You have 12 allowances per week, meaning you can do the full 6 deliveries for two clients.
ashen pendant
So I
'm so confused on the BiS from "The Balance" Discord
One of the main gears is listing determination for materia to slot in, but is it even useful on BLM?
zinc orbitBOT
twilit arch
yes, every job benefits from det
ashen pendant
I understand that, but the BiS is recommending that I put determination over direct hit and crit hit which i find odd. Heck to my understanding on BLM,
direct hit would prob be more desired than determination
twilit arch
@raw solstice can probably give a better answer, but the reasoning is most likely due to how the stat tiers work
ashen pendant
is there a direct hit cap?
twilit arch
there's no hard cap, as far as i understand, but you're not going to see much of a benefit from a stat unless you have enough of it to hit a stat tier
ashen pendant
ah, i see
raw solstice
it's a consideration towards optimizing around stat tiers and looking at the overall multiplier. It's not that it's recommending det over dh, but moreso that the combination of stats with that spread is better than if you were to swap particular melds from det to dh
still a minimal difference, but when you look at optimizing a full sets you can find some "unexpected" melds compared to what you might think when looking at a stat priority or whatever
ashen pendant
hmmm interesting, got it 😮
thorny knoll
to gather a timeworn map, i should just go around the lvl 80 nodes until one shows up?
short sparrow
On the MSQ "In the Darkness the Magatam Dreams" and... uh, I dunno what I'm doing wrong.
But it keeps telling me "Getting closer" until... no matter what, I'm suddenly not close anymore.
leaden ginkgo
What's top tier in terms of healers right now? I know it used to be SCH but has that changed?
jade quartz
But it keeps telling me "Getting closer" until... no matter what, I'm suddenly n...
it's taking into account both your horizontal and vertical distance
the destination is (x:17.0, y:25.9, z:-2.0). On a rock near red coral and a barnacle.
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
please, whats those yellow bars ? sometimes they're bigger
dusty jungle
Shields that are over the max hp
incoming damage will be absorbed by that shield before digging into hp
leaden ginkgo
ok ty
crimson crystal
very helpful for healers
shell fox
is it against the rules to ask for someone to help party up 2 free trial friends?
want to do stone vigil but we can do it together
jk we just random-ed into it
polar hound
halcyon arch
the 90 have passed and i have lost the road to 70 buff and im at level 36, can anythi ng be done
obsidian patio
In terms of getting the buff back, no.
obsidian patio
am I missing something or is there 0 party ui customization?
Besides changing the default sort order, nope
proven sparrow
wtf why squenix
mental garnet
should i random queue for HoH or should i try PF?
obsidian patio
Random is fine
mental garnet
mmk
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
phantasmagoria is going to be discontinued next patch right?
does that mean we should spend it all before the update
heavy vine
Hi all, need help please
faint flare
You can exchange phastmagoria for allegory at a 4:1 ratio
So cap before the patch
And get a free 500 allegory
heavy vine
Didnt play for some time, wanted to play and after downloading launcher ive loged in and game asking my game code, i wrote it down and its says is already used
What can i do guys?
remote lintel
you bought the game and it said the code is already used?
remote lintel
on windows or steam
heavy vine
Windows
remote lintel
did you download the windows launcher
heavy vine
Yeah
remote lintel
it shouldn't be asking you for a game code then
are you sure you logged in with the right account?
heavy vine
Yes
remote lintel
are you able to log in to mog station?
fiery falcon
Which town has an **Inn **that's close to the marketplace?
open ember
I would say Gridania since you don't have worry about big load times
Limsa inn is annoying
remote lintel
actually
obsidian patio
Crystarium is probably the best
amber ingot
any alternatives? https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Far_Eastern_Schoolboy's_Zori
iron sand
hmm please, where can I start the new relic quest?
upper pendant
Can I do bozjan after finishing the main shb questline?
faint flare
You need to complete 5.1 to get to bojza
upper pendant
Ah oke thank you!
zinc orbitBOT
lost grove
Why do ppl leave castrum in bozja when I need it for the gear
modern sorrel
I got a question about gatherer and crafter materia melding
I'm looking into maxing out some of the stats, but is it possible to max it all?
Like say, if you take enough of each type of materia and go past the slots
How limited are you in choosing materia to meld?
modern sorrel
Okay so you need to know what stats you're going for then
can't have it all
Aren't there aesthete's gear that has 5 slots to work with?
I don't think you can craft gear with extra slots, can you?
modern sorrel
Okay so that's how it works then...
Overmelding is going to be an rng-fest but here we go lol
Thanks
jade quartz
There is no Ornate Aesthete stuff currently.
(that's the 5-guaranteed-slot stuff from Wondrous Tails lottery wins)
zinc orbitBOT
grim carbon
Hey my MSQ is to "Journey into the Dravanian forelands." and I don't know if I'm missing something or if I'm just dumb
The place from which I assume I go to Dravania to is blocked by an ice wall
<@&473626701947994134> I assume I use this ping :)
obsidian patio
The ice wall won’t disappear until your current objective is to basically go there, what’s your current objective?
karmic veldt
Where on the map are you?
grim carbon
Right in front of the ice wall
karmic veldt
The exit to the Dravanian Forelands is in a crevice on the western end of the Coerthas Western Highlands.
karmic veldt
Okay, then you're on the wrong end of the map.
grim carbon
oooh
obsidian patio
X6, y10 is where you want to be
grim carbon
in Coerthas Western?
karmic veldt
The place you're looking for is near Twinpools.
obsidian patio
Yes
karmic veldt
Past the Dreaming Dragon.
grim carbon
Alright! Thanks a lot :)
karmic veldt
Glad to help!
grim carbon
woah cutscene
forest laurel
for these achievements does the number go up for every individual item or for every time you finish a node?
obsidian patio
I think each smack of a node?
forest laurel
that would make more sense
obsidian patio
So actions that boost numbers of attempts would be ideal
forest laurel
spare plinth
Does it take that long to wait for 24 raid as a dps?
Cause I heard if you want resistance weapon you have to do stormblood 24 man series
obsidian patio
DPS usually have the 2nd fastest queue behind healers for 24-mans, due to how many DPS they require
forest laurel
tanks have the slowest queue times bc there's only 3 tanks per alliance raid
obsidian patio
It’s basically the only content tanks have a long queue for
cunning raptor
Why do Bozjan 1v1 punish you so heavily for not having Lost Manawall? Especially since it's a random drop?
obsidian patio
That’s part of the challenge
It also helps attempt to limit going full DPS with actions like Lost Font of Power/Magic + Noble Ends
cunning raptor
Yeah I get that we're supposed to make full use of our Lost Toolkit but Im Maxed out and still havent gotten Manawall, whats the challenging part about getting the short stick at RNG
verbal rune
How do I do poses such as the one I saw on some DRk with their weapon unsheated? The one where they old the sword in front of them, with the tip into the ground
obsidian patio
You can spend Bozja clusters at an NPC at the base for a fragment that has manawall
5 per cluster, I believe
Tip into the ground is female-exclusive
heavy vine
Is there a way to find wich account on mog station used game code(the one when purchase)???
Seems like store account and mog station is different😭
leaden ginkgo
what is the HUD element called that shows what a boss is currently casting/doing?
leaden ginkgo
OhIsee
halcyon stag
Hey guys. Do you know any ways of level grinding other than dungeons, levelling roulette and hunting logs?
zinc orbitBOT
halcyon stag
OK. Anything else?
faint flare
Palace of the dead/heaven on high/bojza for 1-60/61-70/71+
halcyon stag
Heaven on high? Bojza?
Sorry, I forgot to clarify - I'm below lvl60 and on free trial rn
halcyon stag
OK. I'll check them out once I get the full version. Thanks.
leaden ginkgo
are there any chokers in game which look like a regular cross?
or maybe something like the symbol on ld gear
pld*
which looks kinda like a cross or a dove hybrid
onyx kiln
is there a button that makes you go through your party list similar like the TAB one for enemies?
open ember
@leaden ginkgo #glamour-discussion channel will def be able to help you find what you're looking for
slate arrow
is there a button that makes you go through your party list similar like the TAB...
Numpad up/down cycles through your party list so you could rebind cycle party down
granite spruce
For the Relic Weapons, do you have to do ARR Relic Weapon to do the others?
onyx kiln
@slate arrow okay, thanks
marble drift
@granite spruce you mean like the Heavensward Anima weapons? no. they're not linear
you could do a Shadowbringers Resistance weapon then go do Anima then head to Eureka to get a Stormblood Eurkean weapon.
there is a tiny benefit to doing an ARR relic before a Heavensward Anima. You can turn in a completed relic to skip a step.
but the step you're skipping is easy and not worth the hassle of making a relic weapon just for that
marble drift
Yes
granite spruce
ok, at least there worth doing
marble drift
Sometimes you'll need to get a "replica" variant to put it in your glamour dresser
because they have flucuating stats
but the replica's are available once the weapon is complete.
faint flare
Or like a previous steps look
marble drift
^
zinc orbitBOT
agile laurel
to clarify, for ARR relic you need to complete the entire chain from start to absolute finish to unlock replicas for purchase
for every other relic, you only need to complete the stage above
actually for stormblood just having the relic step is sufficient to buy its replica
halcyon grail
I just got to the rank that unlocks the "Battle of Castrum Lacus Litore". What do I need to do in order to prepare?
Specific lost actions, etc
obsidian patio
No specific actions needed, though I do recommend having some kind of essence active at the bare minimum
marble drift
Death is apparently good
obsidian patio
Whether that’s DPS-focused or survival focused
marble drift
for the 2nd bit, where you split up
halcyon grail
By essence, you mean the passive buffs?
faint flare
Yes
Basically just bring damage really
Nothing is required
So more damage = good
halcyon grail
fair enough
obsidian patio
This is what I usually bring as a healer:
Bravery as a group damage buff
Spellsong for first boss
Steelsing for second boss
Noble Ends for personal Damage
2 Reraiser
2 Mana Potions
And a couple of deaths
And my essence is either Aetherweaver or Templar depending on what I have more of
If I’m feeling especially DPS greedy I drop the spell,steel, and deaths to let others do them to bring along Lost Font of Magic, more Mana potions, and Dice
zinc orbitBOT
versed geyser
So I can't find the side quest that unlocks the Palace of the Dead. Like I found the NPC but there's no quest marker over his head
obsidian patio
How far in the story are you?
versed geyser
I'm in HW now
obsidian patio
Try talking to the guy that would let you queue for POTD. You might’ve already done it without realizing
versed geyser
Where's that person again?
obsidian patio
Quarrymill, they’re the Wood Wailer Expeditionary Captain
versed geyser
Yeah I did it without realizing
obsidian patio
👍
proven sparrow
does mogstation usually have an xmas sale and do level/story skips tend to go on sale
obsidian patio
Yes, unknown
Level/story skips usually have separate sales of their own, and there’s no real consistency to what goes on sale
proven sparrow
do you know if they're usually decent sales or just like 10/20% off
obsidian patio
I think the last job/story skip sale was like 25% off?
proven sparrow
tty
shrewd mirage
Where Can i find my Bicolor Gemstones? They arent in my bag?
faint flare
Travel menu > shared fates
shrewd mirage
Thank you!
halcyon stag
So, I'm on free trial and thinking about getting the complete edition, but all my jobs are below lvl60 and I'm yet to even reach Heavensward.
Should I go for it, or finish Heavensward first?
slate arrow
Completely up to you. I'd say go for it if you want to pick up the Stormblood jobs or Shadowbringers jobs immediately but you can wait if you're not in a hurry to continue to the story
open coral
Also keep in mind that there is a very strong possibility that the game will go on sale in the next week or so, and that you can buy the game but not apply the purchase code until you're ready to use it.
obsidian patio
Yeah November/December is prime time for sales
halcyon stag
I'm getting it digitally, so I don't think I need any codes.
open coral
There's always a code
halcyon stag
Also, it's on sale right now.
obsidian patio
Not if it’s digital PS4
open coral
Oh yeah, that's true
I was assuming PC, but if you're on PS4 you can't use that particular trick
ebon notch
I’m assuming you need headphones to talk to people in game?
shrewd mirage
I need to get Arcanist to 30 to be able to unlock scholar right?
open ember
Yep
shrewd mirage
thanks^^
zinc orbitBOT
dreamy warren
Doing Born Again Anima... what is "on completion of hte grind" mean? It says it awards 2000 growth?
faint flare
Thats how much light you need to complete it
little swift
Doing certain duties/instances with the weapon equipped awards you with a small amount of light on completion
So the idea here is that you need to accumulate 2000 points of light
The most recommended methods are both unsynced
Brayflox longstop hard mode
Or alexander eyes of the creator savage (a9s)
The latter recommended to complete with a party
obsidian patio
Any level 50 dungeon solo works, Brayflox hard mode is generally considered the fastest
Though I definitely don’t recommend Stone Vigil hard, due to the 2nd boss with the cannons
leaden ginkgo
how fast are wolf marks grinded?
how long do you guys think it might take to gather 18k of em
obsidian patio
Depends on win rate
If you don’t mind it taking time, you can just do one frontline roulette a day for the 1500 minimum reward
And if you feel like you’re getting good teams then keep queueing for it
leaden ginkgo
@obsidian patio I mean I got nothing to do all weekend
do you think I could grind it in a day?
obsidian patio
If queues are good, yes
leaden ginkgo
if I just played 6 hours straight lool
hmmm how do you even do that at the island where yu get the first pvp mission?
obsidian patio
Through the duty finder
obsidian patio
Check if there’s a quest at your grand company
leaden ginkgo
I think I did the intro one to unlock on the limsa island
leaden ginkgo
ok will check then
atomic gulch
I can only recruit friends if I am a subscriber to the game?
karmic niche
what do i do with my extra poetics?
i think i have enough powder
for the classes i need
obsidian patio
!faq poetics
zinc orbitBOT
obsidian patio
I can only recruit friends if I am a subscriber to the game?
Yes
gloomy mortar
What is the best way to get lvl500 items other than Tomes of Allegory, which takes 2 months to farm a set?
lost grove
Eden
gloomy mortar
Edens verse savage the only way? Been trying all week, waiting 3 hours straight each day, can’t get a game
little swift
Pf is the way to go
little swift
Duty finder shoots yourself in the foot
robust crow
use party finder
gloomy mortar
Party finder only has games that are restricted to those who have completed the raid.
obsidian patio
Make one of your own
little swift
Its late into the tier
Can't expect as many fresh prog parties
Specifically 9 months into the tier
obsidian patio
Either way, don’t worry about getting i500 now. It’ll be easier once 5.4 hits
If you want a good substitute then augmented Neo-Ishgardian is i490
gloomy mortar
When is 5.4 exactly?
little swift
December
obsidian patio
Early December
The assumption is December 8th with how the general timeline of patch launches go
gloomy mortar
Where are the 5.4 rumors/news posted?
leaden ginkgo
anyone know of an ingame haircut which looks like the thancred one but the hair is not in your eyes?
patent citrus
not that i know of
obsidian patio
Housing itself is still unconfirmed and only heavily hinted to
teal dragon
ok im at lvl 50 and finished the main dragoon quest where can i get the gae blog
patent citrus
do the anima relic quest
teal dragon
where is it?
gloomy mortar
How to meld botanists? Seems like extra perception doesn’t yield higher HQ nodes. Got my DOLs to 800gp, then the rest as perception. Mistake?
lost grove
Should I lvl my mnk from 22 or wait for the rework?
teal dragon
thx
patent citrus
not sure, up to you 🤔
obsidian patio
If it’s your first zodiac relic you’ll need to grab the quest from Vesper Bay
lost grove
Idk rn needs some opinions
patent citrus
level it 😂
obsidian patio
It’s called “Weaponsmith of Legend” IIRC
We don’t know anything about the MNK rework besides Greased Lightning becoming something you don’t need to build up
lost grove
So wait or lvl rn to be prepared
teal dragon
wait im here where is it
obsidian patio
teal dragon
alrite
obsidian patio
In Vesper Bay in Western Thanalan
teal dragon
whats the npc name?
patent citrus
should be a blue quest
obsidian patio
Nedrick Ironheart
teal dragon
i dont think i got it should i finish an msq first tho?
lost grove
Lol I still don't know what to do about my mnk
obsidian patio
What’s your current story quest zeal?
teal dragon
ye of little faith