Story gates a lot of stuff
#questions-and-help
small marsh
bitter plaza
that's not enough
wispy parcel
Story gates pretty much everything
bitter plaza
that works for WoW but not for FFXIV
bitter plaza
the story skip will deposit you at the start of shadowbringers
and lift all gates up to that point
remote lintel
you will need to do shb
wispy parcel
Youre still forced to do the MSQ for ShB
gritty kite
so i can spam dungeons up to 70 no?
remote lintel
sure
bitter plaza
but anything gated behind shb is still gated
sinful mist
You have to to start shb yes
wispy parcel
ShBs story is still ongoing so by the time you get to it
sinful mist
The story skip gives you Gil
sinful mist
Doesn't it?
small marsh
If you really wanna do story skip that’s your prerogative 👀
But I don’t think anybody really “recommends” it
gritty kite
idk- you all seem so against it, idek
bitter plaza
the problem is that even Shadowbringers is a bit of a slow burn, especially at the start
small marsh
Well you’re paying money to not play the game
remote lintel
its up to you
remote lintel
if its boring to you then sure
gritty kite
xd
bitter plaza
that is a matter of opinion
sinful mist
I like arr
faint flare
Tbh its more boring if you skip
small marsh
So it’s really up to you but I think most people would argue that if you don’t wanna play the game you might as well not play the game
faint flare
Cause you have no idea whats going on
small marsh
For free
gritty kite
i mean from 1-15 there was legit no content..
wispy parcel
The story is the main reason most people play this game.
remote lintel
because
sinful mist
But Im a story nerd
remote lintel
1-15 is basically the tutorial
bitter plaza
if you are not invested, you don't care what happens on the screen
wispy parcel
Its why its so critically acclaimed
remote lintel
because its a story heavy game
small marsh
Story skip = paying money to not play the game
Not playing the game = not playing the game for free
That’s why most people won’t recommend buying story skip
faint flare
Its doing thr world building and treating you if you haven't touched a single game
small marsh
It’s about the journey
Not the destination
The feeling of unlocking a new area to explore
New dungeons
Etc
Obtaining new skills
sinful mist
Nah. Ffxiv is very slow in the beginning. That's true. Like I said. It will get better but don't expect the story to really get a better pace until heavensward
small marsh
People who buy the story skip usually suck in dungeons and raids
gritty kite
but
small marsh
They have no idea how to use their skills or how to run the dungeons
remote lintel
if you want to skip then skip
small marsh
Story skip levels you up
faint flare
No
small marsh
So you get all your skills at once
small marsh
Doesn’t it
remote lintel
level skip is a different one
faint flare
Thats the levrl boost
gritty kite
thats a different skip.
gritty kite
small marsh
Of having only 1
bitter plaza
they separated them because you can level multiple jobs on one character
gritty kite
only having 1?
remote lintel
only having either story skip or level skip
gritty kite
ah-
wispy parcel
Like heres the thing if you wanna skip then skip. But the majority of people who you ask who play this game will be personally against it cause the story is legitimately the best part of the game.
sinful mist
I hope you play healer Btw
sinful mist
Dps can't spam dungeons
faint flare
Not without a long wait
small marsh
Tank has good queue times too
Most roulettes are instant for me
Less than 5 seconds
sinful mist
Even tanks sometimes get wait times for the rarer dungeons
bitter plaza
WoW doesn't have to separate them because you have one class per character, and story progression is linked to your level, not your quest progress (and costs more than a FFXIV story and job skip combined)
patent citrus
or people who play them can't read 😂
sinful mist
It's your decision and money so do what you want.
bitter plaza
if you enjoy playing the dungeons with friends then go for it
sinful mist
Most people will not recommend it because money and they like the story but ye if you like different stuff do it.
bitter plaza
I have a friend who skips all the story and still enjoys this game for the social aspects
gritty kite
it just bugs me that i spent 15 hours already into it for tutorial
i was on edge of ditching the game today
so idk what im supposed to do really
i cant play 100+ hours of story all by myself
bitter plaza
that's the curse of FFXIV sadly
wispy parcel
Thats kinda just how a lot of "Theme-Park MMOs" are
The tutorials are long as heck and treat you like youve never played a video game before
gritty kite
i mean- but thats stupid. its just enduring for me right now
sinful mist
What msq quest are you?
twilit arch
I'm going to cut this conversation, because ultimately you need to decide whether you're willing to push thru the slow start or whether you're willing to invest money to skip
wispy parcel
Tbf this game does have systems on top of systems on top of systems
Theres a lot to learn
bitter plaza
there are going to be two more dungeons coming up rapidly
wispy parcel
Which is why half of ARR is tutorial
twilit arch
the simply fact of the matter is many people play the game for the story, which yes its a slow burn but it gets better
bitter plaza
"rapidly" for this game's pace that is
remote lintel
if you dont care about story you can skip but you might get burnt out
sinful mist
I can tell you that the story gets better soon
sinful mist
Give it like 2 or 3 hours. To Lvl 20
remote lintel
it shouldnt because you can do a million other things to prevent burning out
as opposed to just spamming dungeons all day
sinful mist
When you fight the first trial
Then decide
If you still have no interest in the story then just skip it
bitter plaza
as Kael said
we can only help you so far
you have to decide
the power is in your hands
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signal mist
Are queue times for HoH worse than PoTD? I unlocked it today and have been waiting for hours.
signal mist
I have no idea what the peak time for this in crystal dc is 🤔 might have to look for that.
remote lintel
its 11:30 am EST
twilit arch
peak time is when people are off of work/school;
patent citrus
well usually 17:00 - 0:00? 🤔
quasi spire
How can I check my ping?
twilit arch
so like around 3pm -11 pm cst
remote lintel
!faq datacenterip
zinc orbitBOT
quasi spire
yeah just wanted the ip
oof, it's 400ms rn. explains why I died 5 times while fighting storge
leaden ginkgo
I have a question about buying gears: these 2 here, does it mean the higher level the better? Even the attributes of lower level seems better.
oblique trellis
I keep running in to an FC, with every member having random letters as names (yes every member I've seen) - and every time I cross paths with them, they're under the map. Can/should anything be done about that?
whole wasp
if the FC is wanderer, they are world travellers
oblique trellis
It is indeed
whole wasp
also those are bots, you can report them if you wan to
bottom right -> system -> support desk -> contact us
SE banwaves them
oblique trellis
They always happen to be where I am somehow 😄
whole wasp
I have a question about buying gears: these 2 here, does it mean the higher leve...
Brand-New Ring is special. its very strong for a lvl 20 item. The item level of an item usually indicates which item is better. ilvl higher = better
leaden ginkgo
Brand new ring is better even it’s a lv1 item right?
whole wasp
They always happen to be where I am somehow 😄
Bots dont buy expansions so they practically dissappear past lvl 50
leaden ginkgo
Better than lv9?
whole wasp
Brand new ring is better even it’s a lv1 item right?
yes, brand-new ring is exceptionally strong to help beginners so yes
leaden ginkgo
Ooo didn’t know that
whole wasp
i rememeber its good up to almost lvl 50. the exp boost is great too
whole wasp
newbies are encouraged to do Hall of Novice just to get Brand New Ring
whole wasp
Np, Have fun!
leaden ginkgo
🙏😊
oblique trellis
Kinda sucks that I'm leveling all the classes to 50 rn then 😄
elfin kelp
How do you get the dragon minion that lands on your shoulder?
karmic veldt
Main Scenario Quests.
oblique trellis
MSQ
elfin kelp
can I get it during the trial? I'm already level 55 on my main class
karmic veldt
The specific quest is called "The Rising Chorus" and it's part of the last patch storyline of the Seventh Astral Era quests.
twilit arch
yes, its available on the free trial
karmic veldt
And yes, it's available to the trial, since that goes through Heavensward.
remote lintel
including post HW
manic flare
wait, if i do more ixal quest, i can't gain anymore rep?
how do i get the final rank with ixal
elfin kelp
Great thanks. Another question I had is doing dungeons with your GC squad a good way to lvel a secondary class/job?
I belive you have to get max rep with the other beast tribes, then do a final quest for Sworn
manic flare
try doing wanderer's palace (hard) with your GC squad and you will learn how the AI is broken
remote lintel
!faq altlvlguide
zinc orbitBOT
twilit arch
bloodsworn is gotten from the allied beast tribe quest, which requires all beast tribes of that expansion to be maxed. so you're technically maxed for ixali. there's no more rep to technically be gained
karmic veldt
For the record, the Main Scenario up to the end of Heavensward rewards the Company Chocobo, Magitek Reaper, Manacutter (a personal airship), and ||Midgardsormr|| mounts and the Wind-up Airship, Goobbue Sproutling, Buffalo Calf, ||Midgardsormr||, Wind-up Cid, Wind-up Alphinaud, ||Wind-up Haurchefant||, Poro Roggo, ||Wind-up Aymeric||, and ||Wind-up Moenbryda|| minions.
plush hound
@leaden ginkgo the level number below the class requirement is only for the level needed to equip it, not a measurement of item strength. The line above which says ITEM LEVEL then a number is more representative of that.
leaden ginkgo
O thanks!
Is it possible to get the older version of the resistance relic/weapon? For glamour purposes
elfin kelp
This guide assumes you have the armory bonus and are using food. It was also written using the Aetheryte earrings 1-70 (pre-order bonus f/Shadowbringers), the Brand-New Ring 1-30 (Hall of the Novice completion reward) and Friendship Circlet 1-25 (Recruit a Friend reward.)
plush hound
It's not perfect as some cases you'll find an item with a lower item level that has stats that better fit for your class/job, but it helps.
elfin kelp
I only have the ring lol
leaden ginkgo
or not yet?
leaden ginkgo
Can I know how, please?
plush hound
I think once you get it upgraded to the current max you can buy a relica of the older version.
leaden ginkgo
Thank you
this is a dumb question but what's the difference between double standard finish and normal, just started dancer so im a bit confused
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steep fox
does doing a duty on very easy affect anything? like are u denied achievements or rewards?
twilit arch
no it just makes the duty instance easier
slate arrow
@manic flare you need to max out all the other ARR beast tribes for the final rank up
polar hound
this is a dumb question but what's the difference between double standard finish...
Are you asking because of the job quest stating it as such? It's just wording. So if you press Standard Step then press your two combo/dance moves, that's a 'double standard finish'. If you press Standard Step and don't dance, just..reactivate standard step, that would not constitute a 'double' standard finish.
manic flare
@slate arrow is there any special rewards for the final rank up?
mellow plaza
There a option to just make it so helmets don't appear in cutscenes?
polar hound
you can choose to hide your helmet
polar hound
there is always an allied beast tribe reward btw
mellow plaza
Want to see my character's reactions and shit during the cutscenes but I also wanna wear the helmet during gameplay
polar hound
i think the ARR one is the cool one eye mask thing
manic flare
or alternatively if you don't like to keep turning on/off helmets
i think you can buy an emperor's new helmet (which is an invisible piece of item) and then glamour it to your current helmet
this is how some people can appear to be naked in game and still do end tier damage
mellow plaza
Alrighty.
polar hound
!item sable death mask
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polar hound
this is the allied beast tribe ARR reward
manic flare
@polar hound after ixal, what's the next most useful beast tribe to rank with, for crafters?
polar hound
this is the final quest of the chain
faint flare
There's emotes and stuff for other allied beast tribe quests
polar hound
oh fair, the lead-ups do have stuff usually
faint flare
There's only 1 crafter tribe per expansion...ixal, moogle, namazu then dwarves
twilit arch
the allied tribe quest also unlocks extra minions on each of the tribes
faint flare
For arr, hw, sb and shb respectively
manic flare
but dont other beast tribe have special vendors that sell crafting mats?
i was wondering which one sells the most used/useful ones
polar hound
it's not gonna be that easy
server dependent..peoples needs/wants are different everywhere
manic flare
@polar hound oh im not trying to make money off them, just trying to not go broke buying crafting mats off marketboard to level up my crafters
polar hound
also crafters are very easy to level now, so generally speaking, most of that stuff isnt gonna be worth what it was at a time
ohh fair
manic flare
really? i go broke trying to level up my crafters
spend like 20k on average per crafter level
polar hound
level gatherers also and that shouldnt be an issue
manic flare
maybe im doing it wrong
polar hound
20k per level isn't horrible..pending on your level anyways
manic flare
40-50
polar hound
but you can sustain yourself here with gatherers 95% of the time
ehh..are you leveling with restoration?
polar hound
have you considered that route
manic flare
and ixal tribe quests
polar hound
for 20+ it's just...ridiculous amounts of experience
manic flare
@polar hound i've only leveled gatherers using ishgard
dry jolt
Ishgard restoration is crazy good, leveled mine to 70 with it
polar hound
oh you did it backwards
forest laurel
gatherers.
twilit arch
you use the materials gotten from diadem
polar hound
^
forest laurel
you can only go in there as gatherers
manic flare
oh i have just been selling them on MB
should i be keeping the stuff i gather from diadem?
polar hound
people usually use leves for gatherers and resto for crafting 20+
from my experience anyways
yeah you should, it's how you will level crafters in firmament/restoration
this links to the pin in #doh-dol-lounge from Wynne with restoration/firmament guide
manic flare
is ishgard restoration faster than beast tribe quests for leveling crafters?
polar hound
considering there isn't a daily limit. yes
manic flare
oh so, it's not like GC provisioning turn ins?
you can turn in an unlimited amount of stuff?
polar hound
you can grind firmament as long as you want
use the daily turnins as supplemental exp then grind firmament is the usual route
dry jolt
I've been trying to work out how to level all my doh and dol fast from 70 to 80
manic flare
@dry jolt GC turn ins are very powerful, for gatherers
also levequests
for gatherers
polar hound
many options. don't forget that the Armament/Crystalline Mean stuff is huge exp but for one
manic flare
do you get exp for doma restoration? im wondering if i should quickly unlock that for an additional option to level crafters
steady hollow
FFXIV is half off for red&black friday sale https://blackfriday.square-enix-games.com/en-us/#digital but when I go to the SE store for the PC version it's not discounted - do SE sales usually start at a specific time?
twilit arch
dailies: grand company turn ins and the dwarven (crafting) and qitari (gathering) beast tribes
non daily: ishgard restoration, leves, house of splendors collectable turn ins @dry jolt
dry jolt
Yeah, I know all the methods, but trying to decide the laziest route, and preferably onthatdoesnt require tons of hq turning
manic flare
can you buy level skips for crafters?
it's hard leveling blacksmith/armorer without going broke
faint flare
No
manic flare
they are the most expensive DoH crafters to level by far
twilit arch
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even at level 70-80
i've been able to buy the turn ins
dry jolt
Ishgardrestoration is basically free, justthetedium of gathering tons of stuff in the diadem, And eventually needing to buy or make gear
twilit arch
laziest route would just be your gc daily turn ins plus beast tribe
twilit arch
the grand company turn ins, there's a turn in for every crafter and gatherer
dry jolt
I'll check prices when I get home...working hard at work right now :p
leaden ginkgo
is ishgard restauration concluded or can i still get the rewards if i start now ?
polar hound
pretty sure it will be even after it finishes yeah
leaden ginkgo
how abou the feast ? i just finished the content from 5.35 and want to hop unto pvp but have right now 45 mnt on queu
polar hound
not sure about the feast..last I heard, rankings didnt deteriorate over time so when a new season comes out, people rush for their rank then it kinda dies...its been awhile though not sure if it's accurate
zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
I dont thinj there's a feast season active atm so not many people grinding ranks
Plus pvp isn't popular in general
polar hound
^
faint flare
It just kinda exists to keep the pvp nerds happy to have some content
cedar compass
Can you transfer items to characters you own in a different server?
Without a middleman
exotic minnow
Nope, there's no way to do it without a second person even if the two characters are in the same world @cedar compass
It absolutely sucks that you can't mail yourself stuff
exotic minnow
Np
I have a question of my own, is there a way to set up Kupo Bot to send me Discord messages whenever the Fashion Reports are posted in this server or just anywhere?
storm galleon
My machinist is at I level 495 with the following stats:
Critical hit:3016
Determination: 2689
Direct hit rate: 2213
Skill speed: 1038
Attack power: 4744
Is there anything that I should improve upon in terms of stats?
slate arrow
<@!83005599796695040> is there any special rewards for the final rank up?
Yes
But they're mostly just cosmetics/housing items
I don't remember what ARR tribes give
forest laurel
hard to say without knowing what your gear is or what materia you're using
storm galleon
Yes true. My headgear, chest, tighboots, boots and weapon are all from bozja
Its okay then. I understand its abit hard to ask like this
forest laurel
I mean if you're not planning to go savage at all then I think you're fine
potent shale
How do you get better gear?
forest laurel
that's too broad of a question
potent shale
I'm only at 479
faint flare
Stats themselves dont really matter much. As long as you meld towards your priorities
And hit any specific speed tier if any
potent shale
I just want to be able to participate in Seat of Sacrifice EX
forest laurel
buy from market (i480 crafted gear, can be upgraded to i490 with phantas)
do puppets bunker (i490 gear)
do bozja (i495 gear)
get augmented crystarium gear (i500 gear)
do savage (i500-505 gear)
potent shale
🙁
faint flare
Puppet bunker weekly for 490, allegory tomes, eden savage bojza
storm galleon
I often times see youtuber say machinist priority is crit > Det = d-hit > skill speed. But it seems that my determination is higher than d hit now. I wonder if there is any impact to my dmg
forest laurel
as long your melds focus on crits it's all fine
faint flare
Maybe tiny slightly
forest laurel
probably not that big of an impact to your dmg anyway
potent shale
Queue in Sans joke
bold mica
det=dhit means that they are on the same priority
faint flare
Subatat differences are in the tiny percents
bold mica
not that they have to be equal
faint flare
Like 1-2% differences
storm galleon
I do plan to work on my crit hit rate since its just barely at 3000
faint flare
As long as you're melding properly and getting the highest ilvl gear with stats for your job (aka follow your bis list) then you're fine
storm galleon
Alright
Currently my gear is not based on bis list. My main gears are from bozja
Ascessories I do follow BiS
vagrant tulip
Dumb question...are there opportunities to get cosmetic gear withough going into their store?
faint flare
Dont sweat the small stuff unless you're going SUPER far to optimise substat tiers
vagrant tulip
Like microtrans
faint flare
No
vagrant tulip
Ah
faint flare
Once its on the store, its basically never gonna be available again in game
storm galleon
Dont sweat the small stuff unless you're going SUPER far to optimise substat tie...
You have a point there. Maybe Im just too greedy to the point where I want my machinist to hit drill+reassemble above 70k dmg
With pt buffs I can definitely reach that number with no problems
Thanks for the advice though.
mossy pasture
Hey everyone, I need some help. I already played on PC for years, just got the game for PS4 again and it asked me to add the purchase to my existing account. Done.
But now it wants me to add another instance of realm rewborn / heavensward but to an entire new account? I´m not sure what to do, because I can´t skip that
manic flare
will the next patch add better weapons compared to what's available currently?
the futures rewritten patch
open coral
Hey everyone, I need some help. I already played on PC for years, just got the g...
I know the PS4 version requires that you link your SE account to your PSN account. I'm not sure whether that's the issue you're having.
open coral
will the next patch add better weapons compared to what's available currently?
Yes. We'll get a third tomestones/Eden weapon in 5.4
half kraken
Are we given any tools to deal with guests misbehaving in a ceremony of eternal bonding? Or are we stuck with them?
open coral
That will be the last weapon added until next expansion, although there will also be future upgrades for the relic weapons as well, which will bring them on-par with the augmented tomestone weapons from 5.4 by the end of the expansion.
mossy pasture
I know the PS4 version requires that you link your SE account to your PSN accoun...
I think the problem is that I got the starters edition for free some time ago, and just bought the complete edition again.
I registered the complete edition, and it shows up in the moogle station.
Now it asks me to add the starters edition to a new account for some reason (probably because I already got all the addons on my account).
it asks me for a second service account ( i don´t know if that´s the english term for that account)
open coral
Have you tried just launching the game on your PS4 and logging in?
mossy pasture
yes it still asks me to add the starters edition to a second account, or else it won´t let me login
open coral
That might be because you already have the starter edition linked to your PSN account. I don't suppose you checked which licenses you already had on your mogstation before you purchased and linked the complete edition?
There's a way to unlink a PSN account from an SE account using the support ticket on XIV's official site. This is the link for the NA version, but you can probably find the EU version if you poke around a little: https://support.na.square-enix.com/contact.php?id=5382&la=1&daxx=3
Alternatively, you can always just make a second SE service account (I assume it's asking for an SE service account rather than a PSN one) with a new email address and link your old starter edition to that.
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
how do i get more cp at level 40? is there level 40 crafter jewelry cause i couldnt find any
this macro wants 310 and im 263 currently
signal island
I hope this is the correct place to ask about this. I need to finish some Chronicles of New Era - The Crystal Tower quest chain to proceed in MSQ, but the apparent quest giver for Legacy of Allag does not have any quests available.
mossy pasture
That *might* be because you already have the starter edition linked to your PSN ...
thank you! That helped
little swift
Check your completed quests to see if you already began the chain @signal island
signal island
Oh I see, the listed quests are the already completed ones
half kraken
Is inviting random people to a ceremony of eternal bonding a bad idea, or is there a way you can kick out guests that are being dumb
left sedge
When do ffXIV base games usually go on sale? I’m super broke. Black Friday?
crimson wind
General advice...if you're super broke buy something else
little swift
General advice...if you're super broke buy something else
not helpful at all
proven sparrow
is there ever sales on the story/job skips
little swift
Yes
proven sparrow
oh sweet
in mmo's I tend to be an alt-o-holic and this isn't exaxtly alt friendly
little swift
To be fair there isnt much reason to have an alt in this game
proven sparrow
no but I like to have a couple different races and I RP
open ember
unless youre like me who ended up having friends on other DCs and cant play with them another way
oh for RP its fine
proven sparrow
yeah I'm MSQ'ing my first alt rn, and I just know there's no way I'm doing it a third time
atleast not 2.0-2.5 again
split isle
honestly buying a skip for alts is just too worth
proven sparrow
story+level skip is more than I'd like to pay but time wise you're probably right. Still gonna hope on a sale though
signal island
Ok I reviewed the quests I have completed, looks like the next quest is Syrcus Tower but the questgiver is not offering any quests
signal island
Only leves that I can see
proven sparrow
you're level 50 correct?
abstract veldt
How do you know which bait is the best when you go out ocean fishing ?
signal island
I'm 80
abstract veldt
first time around I had someone link it each time
signal island
I'm in the SB MSQ but it asked me to go back and complete this crystal tower thing
proven sparrow
oh right they changed that
faint flare
Check your journal to see if you have accepted it already
And see where you are in thr completed tab after that
signal island
Ahh, that is exactly what I have done
proven sparrow
either "for prosperity" or "syrcus tower" in your journal?
twin vector
how do I get to the conjurer's guild/ old gridania?
faint flare
Go to new gridina and walk there via zone transition/use the aetheryte in gridina to port to it
twin vector
where is gridina on the map?
verbal rune
oh, so is it confirmed that ffxiv will go on sale on the 28th?
faint flare
Gridina is in the shroud
If you have been to gridina, you should have really attuned to the aetheryte to teleport
twin vector
where is the shroud haha, sorry I only started playing the other day
faint flare
If you didn't start in Gridina, the forest area, then the story will takr you there naturally
zinc orbitBOT
twin vector
Yeah I think I just went there, but I left and now don't know where I went
faint flare
Open the map and use the drop downs at the top
Also ATTUNE TO AETHERYTES
Rule 1 whenever you go to a new zone
gusty mango
Just a general question, should I buy the story skipping thing on mpg station or just keep doing the msq? Or that’s just a personal opinion 😫
verbal rune
honestly I would say that there isn't much else to the game aside from the story
but if you wanna skip, skip ARR only
and not the post ARR
twilit arch
if they were to buy the ARR skip it would skip post ARR as well
open ember
the story skips, skips the whole expansion. not just a part of it
twilit arch
generally though, most people aren't going to recommend buying it since the story is one of the game's main selling points
and while ARR is indeed a slow burn, it gets a lot better
ultimately though, its up to you. if you're not enjoying yourself then by all means go ahead and buy the skip. you can always go back and play thru ng+ if you find yourself wanting to go back and do the story
lone spruce
What is this song that plays here?
I keep hearing it and I like it but I can never find the name
gusty mango
Well I guess just buying the ARR skip it’s fine, just to get the grove going
zinc orbitBOT
proud willow
@lone spruce Twilight over Thanalan
lone spruce
Ty
magic wren
Found all aether currents in yanxia but still cannot fly, any reason why?
lone spruce
Msq probably
magic wren
I beat Stormblood, does post SB give you aether currents as well?
magic wren
Dang
twilit arch
can you show a screenshot of your aether currents window
open ember
yes that'd be helpful
long field
how do you unlock leves and ho wmuch is ff14 a month?
magic wren
open ember
youre missing quest aether currents
youve "found" the overworld aether currents
but havent completed the quest ones
twilit arch
are generally going to be aether current quests
faint flare
They're blue quest s
twilit arch
in expansion zones
magic wren
Ah okay thanks!
twilit arch
a few aren't, but once you talk to the npc and look at the quest it will show it rewards an aether current or not
magic wren
Cool thank you.
open ember
if the quest has this, it awards an aether current
zinc orbitBOT
potent shale
Oh yeah guys
How do you not show the numbers for your skill bar?
I see people not showing their numbers but I'm confused as to how you do it
verbal rune
character settings > hotbar/crossbar
there should be an option somewhere in that window to remove numbers
potent shale
Ohhh ty
Also I want to do the Jandeleine quest in Heavensward
Like the one in house Dzemel, but I don't know how to do it
Oh nvm
Found it
It's a Moogle delivery quest
merry umbra
how much play time does it take to get into the story proper?
hasty musk
@merry umbra I'm not exactly sure what you're asking, but the main plot starts to kick off around level 20 or so if that's what you mean
slate arrow
get a friend and fly to it
short sparrow
It's not an open world current, it's one from a quest called the Sword in the Stone.
merry umbra
@hasty musk thanks, yeah that is what I meant 🙂
short sparrow
I'm pretty bad at this, I've fallen several times already. Thanks for the confirmation though.
blazing loom
I'm trying to finish Make it Rain and I'm stuck on the part where it says "speak with the chief attendant again" and I can't find him and the cursor is locked red
And my brain is starting to melt.
zinc orbitBOT
bitter pivot
Make it Rain ended this morning at reset, roughly 8 hours ago
blazing loom
Well shit. That makes sense.
blazing loom
Tyty
short sparrow
Oh well.
slate arrow
just run in a straight line and delay jumping as much as possible
short sparrow
Do I need to be sprinting?
slate arrow
you don't have to but speed buffs do make it easier
short sparrow
Any longer lasting ones I could use than that skill? Potions, consumables, whatever?
open coral
I think the... second phase jump? requires Sprint.
The one right after the first checkpoint.
fiery fjord
is it worth doing the main scenario roulette
open coral
Best advice I can give for that particular quest is to take your time and line up each jump.
open coral
is it worth doing the main scenario roulette
Depends on a few factors. But it is the best single source of both daily xp and poetics in one shot.
bitter pivot
Question as someone trying to get into crafting: what is the source of Fieldcraft Demimateria 3? Some guides show that you trade crafted items to someone in Mor Dhona for them, but it looks like the recipes for those items that you turn in to get the Demimateria themselves require Demimateria to craft, meaning you'd net 0 demimateria and need an initial batch to do the loop anyway
fiery fjord
I wanna level nin as my second job but it takes a really long time
whats the fastest way to level alts save boost
fiery fjord
Depends on a few factors. But it is the best single source of both daily xp and ...
and doesnt it take forever
open coral
Daily roulettes, then PotD/HoH to 60 (for dps), or daily roulettes then spam your highest leveling dungeon available for healers/tanks.
MSQ roulette takes between 35 and 45 minutes, depending on which one you get, and how efficient your group is at killing the bosses/moving between objectives.
merry umbra
how long does it take to reach level 20? 😛
twilit arch
the trade is basically there if you failed the HQ those items that you can trade for it, its not a good/viable way of getting fieldcraft. The main way of getting fieldcraft 3 is from desynthing items. bestman's/bridesmaid outfits from the vendor in ul'dah and the hand/landmaster accessories from yellow scrips are usually pretty good items to get them @bitter pivot
open coral
how long does it take to reach level 20? 😛
For your first job, or for alt jobs? And what xp bonuses do you have?
merry umbra
first job and none I guess 😛
open coral
For first job, without the Road to 70 Preferred Server buff, it should take you maybe a maximum of 5 hours of gameplay (using the MSQ and related instances as your sole source of xp).
With the Road to 70, it's probably about half that.
Keep in mind, however, that character level 20 and MSQ level 20 are two entirely different things.
short sparrow
I sure do wish I'd known about preferred servers.
sleek roost
I sure do wish I'd known about preferred servers.
What level are you?
short sparrow
Oh, it's too late for it to help me now, I'm 66 on my main job, but it has taken me a long time to get here. 😉
Also, can you use the preferred buff for secondary jobs? If so that would be nice, I have no secondaries over 25.
potent shale
I just level jobs that I like
short sparrow
Well, except the ones which start over 25. XD
potent shale
Levelling is whack
sleek roost
Yes it works on all jobs below 70
potent shale
More like I nyoom the process
sleek roost
Although you'd have to make a new character on a preferred world to take advantage of it obviously and it sounds like you're already committed to your current server
short sparrow
Yeah, I'll stick it out here at this point.
leaden ginkgo
Hi, I'im trying to get into bozjian front and relics but I dont get it, I have the ilvl485 weapon and Zlatan gives me a quest and I must get 3 different types of items, but I dont get what the progression into the bozjian front gives
I mean whats the point of bozjian front ?
faint flare
Story and the mobs drop fragments
leaden ginkgo
but the quest says I can get them outside the bozjian front too, since theres more than 3 outside areas I can even do it without bozjan front right ?
or I absolutely need bozjan fragments too ?
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
btw theres a level system etc. like in Eureka, is this any useful ?
leaden ginkgo
!faq memoryfates
ty for that
faint flare
Its fastwr in bojza onxe you levrl and gey a memory farm party
twilit arch
the mettle system isn't quite like eureka's elemental level
leaden ginkgo
but bozja gives only 1 type of memory right ?
sleek roost
4*
leaden ginkgo
oh ok
sleek roost
There's a quest after the 3 memory types to collect 6 bitter memories (which can also be gotten from 60 dungeons or Bozja)
sleek roost
The smart thing to do is to have both quests open at once
So when you grind Bojza you can potentially get all four types
twilit arch
dictates which of the memories you get
leaden ginkgo
but what part of the front you're in
like just after the start lol
twilit arch
bitter memories drops in all sections
faint flare
Bojza basically gets everything at once
leaden ginkgo
i see
twilit arch
you have to get to lvl 8 to access all 3 parts of the front
leaden ginkgo
rank you mean ? cause im rank 4
twilit arch
yes rank 8
leaden ginkgo
so what do I do right now ? just fates to exp ?
forest laurel
yeah pretty much
twilit arch
farm skirmishes while waiting for critical engagements to spawn, and queue for those when they're up
forest laurel
if you're looking to farm the yellow/blue/red memories for your relic, bozja's not the place for that.
leaden ginkgo
skirmishes ? whats that lol
leaden ginkgo
if you're looking to farm the yellow/blue/red memories for your relic, bozja's n...
thats what I am doing
twilit arch
skirmishes are basically the fates that spawn in the zone that you don't have to queue up for
forest laurel
HW fates are the fastest way to get those memories
forest laurel
I went to a cluster farm and I got barely any memories
twilit arch
rng is obviously going to affect everyone differently
but the fact of the matter is bozja is still very good for memories
forest laurel
maybe bitter memories
twilit arch
especially if you're in an effective cluster farm
forest laurel
you expect people to be effective in this game? 
twilit arch
this is questions and help, please keep that in mind
faint flare
Spread out ib 3/2/2 across zones > pull shit > ggez
forest laurel
that's what we did, except 4/4 on zones 3 and 2
still very few memories
forest laurel
lots of clusters but very few memories
so I'm still of the opinion that bozja's garbage for memories
faint flare
More mob kills means more chance
agile night
I'm starting to wonder how do people deal with having so many weapons? Maybe this is a temporary low level problem, but with each class using a different weapon type I end up with more weapons than anything else
twilit arch
sell/desynthing/turn in for seals old weapons that you don't want
there's no reason to hold onto old weapons outside of keeping it for glamour, which you can either put on a retainer or in the glamour dresser
agile night
part of my problem is probably that I get new better weapons frequently, and leveling multiple classes without going to sell stuff
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
do I need to play the right class and wear the weapons to get blue yellow red fragments ?
leaden ginkgo
nice so I can level my alt class in bozja while farming the crystals ?
forest laurel
yep
twilit arch
so long as the quest is active, you can earn memories
short sparrow
Is there some kind of new event going on?
leaden ginkgo
on ANY type of monsters ?
twilit arch
yes, you can memories from anything in the front
leaden ginkgo
sorry to ask so much, just a bit confusing all those infos on a single area 😄
hasty musk
@short sparrow There was Make It Rain, but that ended earlier this morning iirc
other than that I don't think there's anything new except for the 5.4 announcement
short sparrow
Oh I just wondered cause (silly of me I think) the questions the other person was asking sounded slightly like they might be about a new event.
BTW it's too late anyway, but there didn't seem to be much to Make it Rain? Just one quest then a repeatable task?
Or did I skip some stuff I could have done?
hasty musk
you get increased MGP gains from basically everything during it
also discounts on items and some exclusive items
short sparrow
Furnishing stuff, right?
hasty musk
some of them are house items, I think
there's also costume items and stuff
as for the other thing, were you talking about the person asking questions about the resistance weapons?
twilit arch
the only exclusive items were the emote from the quest and the miner/botanist/moogle paw housing items
short sparrow
They were talking about farming different coloured crystals and I just decided based on nothing that it sounded like it could be an event. Just keeping a watchful eye out.
hasty musk
yeah, that's for the resistance weapons
short sparrow
Thank you.
cosmic cloud
is getting frog legs for blu really this hard? killed like 50 of the mobs already and didnt get it.
faint flare
Rng
zinc orbitBOT
cosmic cloud
well just after complaining i got it on the next mob... like always
proven bay
Does Final Fantasy usually go on sale on black friday?
faint flare
Yes, there is now
proven bay
Is it on sale on steam or square enix's site?
obsidian patio
Complete edition/Expansion is on sale for PS4 digital, at least
proven bay
Or rather, will it be on sale on steam is probably the better question to ask
faint flare
Steam usually does it at different times buuuuut we'll see
proven bay
Hm okay. I do have a question though. A friend of mine is playing the free trial through steam
But he hasn't bought the game yet
Could he buy the complete edition through Square Enix's site and use his steam account?
obsidian patio
Nope
faint flare
No. You can go Windows to steam on trial
But not the other way
Steam account linking and other steam shit
proven bay
So, assuming it doesn't go on sale on steam, but it is on sale on Square Enix's site, is there no way he can link his account to the purchase on square enix's site?
proven bay
F I guess
He's been wanting to buy the full game, but wants to wait on a sale. Guess it'll be a while longer still then
verbal rune
Tbf
You'll eventually get around a sale on steam
Btw
If I want to upgrade from free trial to complete how does it work?
wise dock
There is a black friday sale going on. I would check steam since it should be up.
verbal rune
Can I buy the game, keep the code and then eventually reedem it later?
faint flare
If you're on PC yes
verbal rune
Cool, how it works and where I go?
ripe hound
It’s 100% viable to play this game without Raiding right?
There should be plenty of stuff to do other than raiding?
Also is there anywhere you can see how many times you have died to a boss? FFlogs?
obsidian patio
@verbal rune you enter the code on the mogstation when you’re ready
hasty musk
depends on what you care about @ripe hound
obsidian patio
And yes, you can play the game without doing extreme/savage/ultimate content
ripe hound
Yeah...
verbal rune
But I don't want to reedem just yet
hasty musk
if you care about the story at all, raiding is not required but adds a lot
but there is definitely a lot to do without raids
ripe hound
I’ve been doing e8s, for about 3 hours a night, 20-40 pulls a night, 2-3 nights a week, for like 3-4 weeks
obsidian patio
There’s crafting/gathering, making relics, achievement hunting, minion/mount collecting
ripe hound
My ffxiv experience now is just login, repair, raid, log off
I entered the fight noticing my Noct Sect is still on because I haven’t even changed job after raiding ends
open coral
Sounds like you're reaching, or have reached, burnout.
ripe hound
I mean, I think my static is super close, we are at WL2 prog, and boss is at 6% and 7% left
I think I’m gonna get this clear and take a break
I might need a few week break after 5.4 releases
Play some Cyberpunk, chill out a bit
ripe hound
Are item level and job levels useful if you don’t raid?
hasty musk
I mean if you care about playing different jobs, yeah
ripe hound
I mean there isn’t even much content that needs max level classes other than raiding...?
Just LV 80 dungeons, nier raids, and Eden normal?
zinc orbitBOT
hasty musk
yeah but what if you want to play the other ones for fun
ripe hound
I just sometimes feel like I can’t motivate myself to get more LV 80s
open coral
For casual play, you can just go with casual gear.
ripe hound
If I don’t use them in Raids I don’t really have anywhere else to use them...
hasty musk
You can use them for roulettes or casual content, can't you
open coral
As a casual player, I'll typically get full Normal raid token gear or full Alliance raid left side gear for each of my max level jobs and call it a day.
hasty musk
^
open coral
I don't care about min-maxing stats or anything like that.
ripe hound
Or maybe it’s just the leveling progress is too burnout inducing. I already have LV 80s in all 5 roles. And I’ve done the leveling dungeons way too many times
I really wish old max level dungeons gets added into leveling roulette
open coral
They have their own roulette
hasty musk
max level dungeons don't give good EXP
ripe hound
I’ve just feel like I’ve done all the leveling dungeons so many times
open coral
50/60/70 roulette is for max level dungeons.
hasty musk
that's something that SE would have to go back and change then
open coral
The key (as someone who has all but 5 combat jobs at max level) is to pace yourself. Do your roulettes every day, and then stop and do something else.
hasty musk
^ I basically just do leveling roulette and trial roulette when leveling jobs
it goes slow but eh
ripe hound
Yeah, I just can’t even do my roulettes everyday
open coral
I honestly haven't even logged in this week to work on my current leveling job (DRG)
twilit arch
it really sounds like you've got burn out
ripe hound
Even leveling roulette feels boring now because I ran every single leveling dungeon so many times
twilit arch
which is fine, happens to everyone and there's nothing wrong with taking a break
ripe hound
Yeah
open coral
The first step to fixing your burnout is admitting that you're burned out.
twilit arch
its mainly there for the poetics
ripe hound
Ahhhh
open coral
poetics, yeah
open coral
They won't
ripe hound
Ahhh
open coral
They're not meant to be xp dungeons
ripe hound
Yeah they probably don’t plan to
I just want there to be more xp dungeons
Make like 10 more LV 51 xp dungeons!
hasty musk
that'd be really unnecessary
especially when there's already like 4 msq dungeons and 2 optional ones per expansion
open coral
Leveling dungeons are (since Heavensward, at least) all tied directly to the MSQ.
ripe hound
Yeah, I know
manic flare
how long does the MSQ roulette take on average?
ripe hound
I just wish there are more dungeons in Leveling Roulette
hasty musk
40 minutes if you get Prae
ripe hound
I think 30 and 50 min?
twilit arch
between 30-45 minutes depending on which one you get
manic flare
so hope for not prae then
verbal rune
Also tbf you get 1-2 mil by clearing prae
ripe hound
Prae give a lot more exp though
twilit arch
when you look at exp given for length, they're comparable
verbal rune
Drk went from lvl 52 to 54 for me
twilit arch
like yes, just looking at numbers prae gives more but thats because youre in there longer
verbal rune
Tbf you should look at exp given compared to time spent
twilit arch
are you a sch
zinc orbitBOT
twilit arch
then you've probably havent met the msq requirement
open coral
^
open coral
Always prioritize your MSQ 
open coral
Yes
faint flare
It always is
open coral
100%
open coral
9 times out of 10 if you can't do something that you think you should be able to, it's because you haven't done the MSQ
remote lintel
no
faint flare
You can probably find/make something similar
remote lintel
ive answered this question before and you can only get somewhat similar
cosmic cloud
Hi, does anyonw know the medling cap for blu arm incendiario?
faint flare
It says on the weapon when you meld iy
remote lintel
!iglam high summoners armlets
zinc orbitBOT
Images of glamour items by Gamer Escape.
remote lintel
!iglam Edencall Breeches of Casting
zinc orbitBOT
Images of glamour items by Gamer Escape.
remote lintel
!iglam high house halfboots
zinc orbitBOT
Images of glamour items by Gamer Escape.
open ember
which top
remote lintel
theyre trying to cosplay rydia
zinc orbitBOT
Images of glamour items by Gamer Escape.
lilac dock
is there a reason to use shuriken or is it just completely replaced by raiton
remote lintel
i was going to say southern seas swimsuit
cosmic cloud
does base item level in materia mean the item has to be at least that ilvl?
open ember
that would work too Cerberus
remote lintel
wdym who
open ember
pvp top
remote lintel
its pvp gear
open ember
republican signifer's chiton
remote lintel
@lilac dock its replaced by raiton until you get ten chi jin
lilac dock
ight thanks
faint flare
Which forces you to use fuma
lilac dock
seemed useless until then so i guess i was right
obsidian patio
@cosmic cloud yes
faint flare
Only thing fuma has going for it is longer range
open ember
but raiton is better
lilac dock
buuut like 300 less potency
faint flare
So if you're THAT far away then tiny maybe
lilac dock
its a melee anyways so im gonna be in melee distance anyways lol
remote lintel
just shukuchi
cosmic cloud
is it better to stack crit>det>dh or crit>dh>det on mages?
remote lintel
depends on the class
cosmic cloud
blm
remote lintel
sps to tier > crit > dh > det
raw solstice
sps is more to preference than to a specific tier (though aiming to limit waste due to tiering is a good idea, of course)
dh vs det is mostly a matter of how much you have, consideration towards stat tiers and the overall multiplier. But they're generally roughly about equal value with dh on average a bit better
cosmic cloud
I have another random question, if I do my daily dungeons and stuff it says ill get cracked stellaclusters, but I never seem to get any
twilit arch
the stellaclusters are from the adventurer in need bonus
so unless you queue up as the role currently in need, you're not going to get them
cosmic cloud
makes sense, thanks 😄
balmy lotus
how do you upgrade from FFXIV free trial to FFxiv shadowbringers on steam lol
balmy lotus
is there no way to buy it all at once
cosmic cloud
cant he just buy the complete edition to get all at once?
balmy lotus
like complete edition on steam
remote lintel
there should be a complete edition
balmy lotus
i cant seem to find any complete edition though
maybe im blind
All i see is starter edition
remote lintel
vestal needle
is there a ideal rotation for gathering collectibles?
fossil owl
whats your gp
cosmic cloud
Is the queuetime for the ridorana ligthouse usually over 90 minutes?
remote lintel
depends on the time
fossil owl
You a tank?
cosmic cloud
dps
remote lintel
its like midnight on EU
balmy lotus
lol
remote lintel
just put both in your cart and buy them
fossil owl
Ridorana takes a bit, so best to q at peak time
balmy lotus
I was askin for a friend anyway 😎
btw does it usually go on sale on black friday
the dlc that is
remote lintel
who knows with steam
balmy lotus
i heard it does but iunno
open ember
maybeeeeeeeee? idk everything usually goes on sale with steam
balmy lotus
ive waited to buy the dlc for a while just incase
balmy lotus
yeah
open ember
should be black friday sale week here in the next few days
remote lintel
¯_(ツ)_/¯
slate arrow
ffxiv is extremely picky with it's sales on steam so it's usually a crapshoot
zinc orbitBOT
oblique trellis
What is going on here?
remote lintel
ilvl sync
oblique trellis
Oh ok
leaden ginkgo
I have level 56 crafter gear, which was barely able to complete the level 58 weaver quest. Before I grind scrips for the Master Weaver III book, anyone know the easiest way to get better gear? I am like level 64 with weaver
remote lintel
vendors
brave ravine
avoid level-appropriate quests. reach lev 80 first via diadem+firmament, then buy cheap gear then power level your quests
honest anvil
Do i go for 20 more critical hits or 60 more DH on MCH?
bold mica
always meld VIII mats, not VII
leaden ginkgo
You can just grind to 80 with the ishgard restoration stuff? Yeah maybe it’s better if I just do the quests when they’re easy then
remote lintel
you should get manipulation
plain python
at what level? :d
remote lintel
from the lvl 65 quest
plain python
oh
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
is there any way to re-buy artifact armors ?
the lvl 70 artifact we get from the job quest for example
remote lintel
yes
leaden ginkgo
alright thx
void minnow
whats the best way to get from level 49 to 50?
verbal rune
Just a roulette?
Or rerun the highest lvl dungeon you have in duty finder
Or potd floor 50-60
void minnow
yeah ive been running a level 47 dungeon but i havent been getting much xp
whats that?
potd?
verbal rune
Palace of the dead
verbal rune
Plus odd, I got a level for dungeon run
remote lintel
at a repair npc
void minnow
oooh
zinc orbitBOT
plain python
most weapon and shield pre-50 cannot be dyed?
void minnow
oops my b
plain python
where do you customize appearance after drinking fantasia?
robust crow
take off all your gear and log out
verbal rune
But you only get one shot
plain python
you cannot preview it first with your current gear?
verbal rune
So mess with preset first
verbal rune
you cannot preview it first with your current gear?
@plain python nope, unless you have retainers and you fantasia them first
plain python
hm ok
robust crow
your best bet is to have a friend link you all the gear you want to preview on a new character
that you made in the appearance you want to see
or the retainer thing
that works too
plain python
you can chat in fantasia?
robust crow
no, you create a completely new character
then as a new level 1 you have your friend start linking you shit
plain python
ah I see
robust crow
or go to a marketboard and preview items that you can buy
manic flare
do you still get tomestones if you beat bosses in dungeons unsync'ed?
plain python
finding a friend is gonna be a tall order, but okay
vague plume
For first times yeah
manic flare
@vague plume what about non-first time
zinc orbitBOT
vague plume
<@!372224106877419521> what about non-first time
I don't think you do unless you have someone in your party that is doing it for the first time
mental garnet
at what level does potd 51-60 stop being decent xp for dps classes?
robust crow
at like 61
mental garnet
mmk
robust crow
probably still acceptable exp around 64
gleaming mist
do you still get tomestones if you beat bosses in dungeons unsync'ed?
no, only first time grants tomes
plain python
at 61 it has HoH?
gleaming mist
yes
robust crow
ye you go to HoH at 61
gleaming mist
it’s potd with some extra whistles
manic flare
@gleaming mist what if you do them sync'ed?
little swift
You'll get tomes if synced snack
manic flare
@little swift even for trials?
gleaming mist
if the instance shows that it gives tomes as a reward, then it gives them synced
manic flare
non-first time
gleaming mist
yes
little swift
You just forfeit all normal rewards when you unsync