not really Gemini since most aoe heals are casted off you
#questions-and-help
eager widget
twilit arch
generally, macros aren't recommended for combat jobs
eager widget
exceptions being Cure III
twilit arch
even as a controller player
manic flare
dark knight is harder to play compared to other tanks
open ember
Macros are really annoying in chat
manic flare
they don't have a skill which makes u invulnerable
gusty furnace
Can recommend Whitemage
manic flare
which is super handy sometimes
gusty furnace
it is my first and only class so far
twilit arch
there are a few QoL ones, like the ground AoE (asylum/earthly star/salted earth/sacred soil) since placing those can be a touch annoying
manic flare
cuz they don't have superbolide or shellatron
open ember
DRK isn't that hard but not a braindead class
open coral
They do
manic flare
so their dmg output is lower too i think
open ember
It has Stalwart Soul
twilit arch
they just get is super late
manic flare
ugh, why so late
open ember
I don't remember
twilit arch
its 72
open ember
I was close
tidal yarrow
it's dumb. but still drk is as good as the others and not harder
manic flare
how is warrior as a tank?
open ember
Not the same way
manic flare
i can solo a lot bosses in dungeons just with paladin
i soloed the first boss in great gubal when every one in my party died
took forever
open coral
My personal tank ranking easiest to hardest (not including GNB which I haven't tried at all) is PLD > DRK > WAR
manic flare
dont think i can do that with GNB or DRK tho
quaint crown
Hey y'all I had a quick question, I made a new character who I'm planning on making a machinist in HW but was wondering something.
wispy parcel
WAR is probably the simplest tank imo
manic flare
just use superbolide when ur on 20% health
quaint crown
If I skip ARR side quests can I come back and do them in Heavensward?
manic flare
GNB feels like it has very high dmg output
glossy flare
If I skip ARR side quests can I come back and do them in Heavensward?
@quaint crown Yes
manic flare
cuz they have so many offensive attacks
open coral
Yes @quaint crown
verbal rune
If I skip ARR side quests can I come back and do them in Heavensward?
@quaint crown yes
quaint crown
Sweet.
manic flare
so GNB is like a tank-dps mix
quaint crown
Thanks for the helping hand y'all!
manic flare
to me
wispy parcel
@quaint crown yea but its gonna be weird cause time travel, for some of them anyway
open ember
@manic flare discussion of tanks pls move to #tank-lounge
tidal yarrow
gnb plays like a dps
wispy parcel
Most of them will be fine
quaint crown
I'll blame a time mage and call it a day
wispy parcel
manic flare
is there a sweet level spot for gatherer/crafter levequests?
verbal rune
It's actually WoL having flashbacks
manic flare
at what level do u stop grinding in the field and start doing levequests for leveling?
for gatherers and crafters
wispy parcel
You should be doing Leves as soon as you hit 15
Or when ever it was you unlock them
Leves for crafters and gatherers give the most xp of anything
manic flare
in order to unlock the higher level treasure maps, i have to meet the level requirement correct?
verbal rune
Also the GC requests
open coral
Ixal quests are good for crafters too.
manic flare
if i want to be able to get the Timeworn Dragonskin Map, i have to be level 60?
wispy parcel
You can be underleveled getting a map, it will just be of a lower chance
twilit arch
no, you just need to be able to see the node. which is 55
wispy parcel
Yea
verbal rune
Also, do you get a a mount from the yokai event?
open coral
There are three mounts from the yokai event
manic flare
@wispy parcel would i be able to solo a treasure dungeon unsync'ed with a level 80 characteR?
like aquapolis
wispy parcel
You cant do maps unsynched
twilit arch
the dungeon cant be done unsync
verbal rune
Oh
verbal rune
I hope I have enough time then
twilit arch
so ideally wanna have atleast one other person with. though 4 is safer
wispy parcel
Need at least 4
manic flare
u can buy all the rewards from treasure maps on the market board correct?
so i wont be missing out on anything if i dont do them?
twilit arch
yeah
open ember
They'll be kinda pricey but sure
wispy parcel
The rarer ones are remarkably expensive though
manic flare
what are things people usually look for in treasure maps
open ember
Depends on the map
wispy parcel
Anything rare, usually for crafting or to sell
I did an 80 map amd got some wood that sold for over 500K
manic flare
so there is usually nothing specific...people do it to make money off marketboard?
wispy parcel
Yea what you get is random and reaching the top floor of maps is also rng
So looking for something specific just isnt gonna cut
eager widget
the drop tables for maps have tiers iirc
floors 1-2 generally share a droptable
then 3-5, then 6-7 with 7 having exclusives
verbal rune
So, if I want a specific gear from PoTD, my best chance is to get it by crafting and gathering after MSQ?
eager widget
etcetc for example
honestly with how frequent it’s run, either have the weapon you want from Palace crafted or buy it yourself
no need to hold out on acquiring it through bags
verbal rune
Yeah, but since I'm on free trial I have to it myself
Oh, guess, no helping it then
Out of curiosity
Is SMN until 60 just miasma + bio +occasional ifrit ability?
twilit arch
don't forget energy drain and fester
https://www.akhmorning.com/jobs/smn/guide/levelling-up/#levels-50-60 but yeah not much to the 50-60 rotation
verbal rune
Yeah, they were included in miasma and bio
blazing crest
Hi any tips on how to farm faster on bozjan cluster?
faint flare
Get a party, spread out in groups of 2/3 people, aoe shit down
Spellforge up on physicals and use strong dps actions
vestal needle
@verbal rune every class i have played had only been really fun after heavensward skills
wispy parcel
Every job in the game has this issue
verbal rune
I'll buy the game eventually
verbal rune
What about MCH?
faint flare
mch has most its stuff pretty early
wispy parcel
Yea but a lot of the meme cool stuff is later on
Like the robot summon
But still pretty good in HW
faint flare
You dont get anything "new" after 60...only noticeable stuff is barrel stabliser to help openers and bio blaster for aoe drill
Rest are just upgrades
zinc orbitBOT
dawn mountain
open coral
Theoretically, sure.
wispy parcel
First stage took me 2 days but I took breaks
open coral
Practically speaking... yeah, you'll want to take breaks.
bleak lake
got this quest "A relic rebord Thyrus" .. must get some "materia-enchaned madmans whispering rod" ... seems hard to get.. and the reward is not anything good.. can I just abandon it or does it follow up to more important quests?
open coral
You can abandon it. That quest is for the ARR relic weapons, which are basically really involved glamour at this point.
Practically speaking, you can simply purchase an appropriate item from the Market Board though.
ashen pendant
ok so it's bugging me that i can't find it, so i must go on here for answers
What song plays here? the sad serious and ominous harp theme
twilit arch
its Everywhere and Nowhere
ashen pendant
no not that one
twilit arch
then you linked to the wrong spot
ashen pendant
the harp theme that plays when u're about to teleport to the first
:danHmm: then you linked to the wrong spot
@twilit arch sorry lol
Guess no one knows it 😦
twilit arch
just gonna say that its probably going to take a bit, unless someone knows it off the top of their head
because going thru the ost is like going thru over 500 songs
ashen pendant
yeahhh, i'm trying to go over them on youtube but it's proving hard lol
crimson wind
Also spoilers please
shrewd mirage
is halloween event up?
slate arrow
there is no halloween event this year
faint flare
Yes and no
slate arrow
However the manor from previous years is available in the gold saucer
faint flare
No Halloween event but there's the haunted mansion
manic flare
What is the haunted Mansion?
shrewd mirage
so no werewolf set ?
twilit arch
that set is on the mogstation
verbal rune
So achievement points can only be used with the guy in gridania?
faint flare
The mansion is for funsie and turning into npcs and posing with them
crimson wind
And subjecting others to emotional torment because of it.
cunning raptor
Is party finder supposed to be disabled in southern warfront? Im at rank 6 now and its getting seriously tedious having to solo everything as WHM
I still haven't seen a single person, are people already done with relic stuff?
twilit arch
yes, you can't use party finder in an instance
tacit atlas
You mean bojza?
open coral
Just use /shout chat
tacit atlas
Also yes
twilit arch
just use /shout to look for a group
tacit atlas
It's like eureka, you shout a bunch
twilit arch
you can also see how many people are in the instance with you in the social menu, last tab
cunning raptor
Already tried shouting a couple of times, no responses and have yet to see anyone but NPCs fight in skirmishes
open coral
You could just be in a dead instance
faint flare
Always check player search incase of dead/low pop instance
cunning raptor
Ah, yeah. Its just me here
gritty oracle
oof
open coral
Unusual
faint flare
Not much
modest igloo
i was in on saturday and it was pretty busy
tacit atlas
Seems to happen a lot when on not peak hours
Dead instances i mean
The shortest water timer for gardening is 24 hours right?
vapid veldt
24 hours is the shortest for turning purple, 48 hours is shortest for death
open ember
@ashen pendant that song is called Forever in Flames. It was released in the Stormblood OST
zinc orbitBOT
verbal rune
What do the magitek key and the void resonator from the achievement shop do exactly?
faint flare
Mounts
twilit arch
They're both mounts
verbal rune
Ah, got it
open ember
Keys, horns, whistles are usually mounts
keen steppe
if i accept a beast tribe quest then abandon it, does it count for my daily allotment?
open coral
!action curing waltz
remote lintel
curing waltz
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tidal yarrow
ty
vocal star
how much times i need to donate doman enclave to get the shirt?
slate arrow
about 5-6 weeks?
crimson wind
I don't remember how long Eureka took me, but how long would Eureka take if you're fresh and are going for a weapon and Ozma?
faint flare
Solo, probably 1-2 weeks depending on area population
leaden ginkgo
yeah it’s not a long process
faint flare
I went 20-60 in a week so 1-60 probably a bit longer
To raw level and do story
Then you hop in A BA discord
leaden ginkgo
Population makes the bigger impact
crimson wind
Took me like a month
leaden ginkgo
Lost my motivation to play ffxiv after I got everything to lv80.
I'm at a loss about what to do whenever I log in.
What should I do?
you consider endgame raiding ?
gritty oracle
Take a break from XIV. Sounds like burnout.
leaden ginkgo
Yeah a break sounds nice. Used to run an FC as well haha
Thanks. Oh and I haven't tried really hard to get into endgame things.
acoustic copper
recently got into end game raiding with a bunch of friends
challenges are pretty fun and people will end up spending weeks or months trying to progress through ultimates and stuff like that
endgame is really what you make of it tbh
you could do housing, glamour, raiding, or if you feel really altruistic, help new people get into the game
could try making millions of gil too
just depends on what you wanna set as a goal
but yeah in the end if you're feeling burnout just take a break for a while
I've lost two friends to burnout recently
leaden ginkgo
Yeah I feel burnt out. I think after I take a break I'll join a small FC and be their crafter lol
acoustic copper
if you come to gilgamesh we'll be welcome to have more crafters lol
i'm the only crafter out of my group of friends
crimson wind
There's a lotta shit to do. POTD up to 200, solo POTD, solo HoH, Glamour, Raiding, Crafting, Eureka, Relic Weapons
acoustic copper
yeah i just gave a list of stuff i would do lol
crimson wind
Bozja
leaden ginkgo
Thank you lol
But I'm stuck on Siren with a bunch of my friends. We're all oddly solo though
acoustic copper
i have a few friends on siren
tacit atlas
Chocobo racing and breeding is always a thing that is there lol
leaden ginkgo
Oh that's cool
acoustic copper
i think chocobo racing is actually supposed to be a pretty efficient way of getting MGP
but i could be wrong
tacit atlas
Yup
leaden ginkgo
Hmmmm. I could try to solo potd. I got to 186 last time
twilit arch
its better at higher ratings
acoustic copper
grind that fenrir mount lol
twilit arch
but its a bit of a time investment to get there
acoustic copper
could also try and farm commendations to become a burger king
i ended up just grinding out my tradecraft mentor lol
my friends tell me that i'm not a real burger king though
leaden ginkgo
Lol I am a mentor but I took that crown off after I realised I stopped helping ppl.
acoustic copper
idk i leave it up in case anyone wants to ask me questions or something but i don't really go out of my way to find people to help lol
crimson wind
Just be a mentor to watch shit go down in NN
leaden ginkgo
Lmao @crimson wind
acoustic copper
yeah NN is kinda cancer i never go in there lol
twilit arch
anyway this is getting a bit discussion-y
acoustic copper
yeah
leaden ginkgo
Yeah. Okay so I'll take a break and after I'm done I think I'll join a small FC.
acoustic copper
basically there's a lot of shit to do it's just up to you to find something to do
leaden ginkgo
is crafter mentor faster to get than battle?
crimson wind
House hunting?
crimson wind
@leaden ginkgo much much much much faster
acoustic copper
just a lv 80 crafter and 80 gatherer
crimson wind
Can be done in like a day
acoustic copper
and then grind collectables
yeah super easy to get
also house hunting was awful
i managed to get one last patch but jesus christ
crimson wind
Compared to battle which could take a year depending on which type of shitters you get matched with
acoustic copper
can't wait to do it again for ishgard housing 🙃
oak smelt
so 3 questions.
Is it a bad idea to go into alliance raids blind? esp as a tank?
when entering the boss area should i try and place the boss in the middle with my ranged attack or just jump to it and keep him on the north end?
Do I need to do multiple runs of each trust dungeon to lvl up the npcs or just one?
acoustic copper
ishgard restoration to level crafters and do collectables
you can farm diadem with cordials and gathering manuals for xp
and then just farm collectables which only takes about an hour or so
alliance raids are always a mess so it doesnt' really matter
keep the boss in the center usually
idk how trust works so i can't answer that
leaden ginkgo
@oak smelt 1) no 2) yes try not to gap close to the boss as your opening ability
little swift
Go blind if you want alliance raids are casual content
Middle of room is nice depending on boss
crimson wind
any casual convent can be done easily blind, tank or no.
little swift
And multiple runs are needed to level a trust
twilit arch
usually takes 2 runs to level up a trsuts
little swift
Something like 6 runs of holminster to get 3 trusts to 73
oak smelt
im just thinking with 24 people theres a much higher potential for people to get upset if the tank doesnt know the mechanics.
little swift
Just don't be the main tank then
Keep stance off outside of adds and specific mechanics
leaden ginkgo
don’t turn on stance and pretend ur a dps
little swift
Then you're just a dps job that has tank functionality
leaden ginkgo
if there’s 3+ adds you can turn stance on and tank one
acoustic copper
@oak smelt usually when a tank doesn't know the mechanic it's the other tanks that'll get upset
and then you hit them with the "you don't pay my sub"
works every time
in all seriousness just type in alliance chat that you don't know and somebody else should be able to help
little swift
Milky this isn't the place to give weird temperamental advice
Shitpost minimally in this channel
oak smelt
if theres 3 largeish adds is the go to method that mt takes one, ot takes the other and the dps burst down the third?
because in the past ive panicked as ot and tried to take both of the other 2 ads and gotten destroyed.
acoustic copper
yeah you usually match it to which alliance you're in
oak smelt
nah i dont mean alliance.
i mean in 8 man
sorry
b
there was a dungeon where theres 3 trees or something lol
acoustic copper
uhhhh it depends on which raid you're doing then
faint flare
Oh titina
oak smelt
yes!
acoustic copper
not sure how tanks work on that one, but i think you're supposed to split it 2 - 1 or something
faint flare
One take north. One takes west and DPS burns east cause it has no aggro tabke
leaden ginkgo
also another weird etiquette thing
oak smelt
ah
acoustic copper
ah yeah that one
leaden ginkgo
depending on your alliance you will be a b or c
oak smelt
yeah left middle right
leaden ginkgo
if you’re c take the 3rd position, a take the first and so
crimson wind
Doesn't matter if you're blind imo. They saw you watch the cs, they saw the first timer bonus, they expect you to not know mechanics and the other tank will tank.
leaden ginkgo
same with adds usually
acoustic copper
yeah you got it that's all there really is to it
faint flare
North and west Tank buster so need to be tankrd, east doesn't so its burned
humble prawn
hey i bought the game yesterday and im having a good time im at level 25 but the experience feels a little lonely and eventually i want to do raids whats a good time to join a fc
crimson wind
Guides make it less fun.
acoustic copper
you can join an FC whenever tbh
crimson wind
There is bliss in blindness.
acoustic copper
The game will always feel a little lonely though to be honest unless you have someone leveling with you
leaden ginkgo
since they mostly care abo it hoarding members
acoustic copper
you'll mostly be questing solo while having higher level friends help with dungeons/trials
that's just kind of how it is
humble prawn
really i figured joining a fc with alot of people would mean i could get more advice from different players
acoustic copper
also at level 25 you won't be getting to many of the current end game raids anytime soon unless you absolutely blast through the game lol
a lot of the time those big FCs are only like a few active people and the rest are just soloing the game and there for company buffs lol
humble prawn
oh i know i just like to prepare ahead
leaden ginkgo
the 500+ member ones I joined only seemed to have people who only joined for buffs / only cared for the member count
acoustic copper
imo the most fun FCs are like 10-20 member ones
make a few friends and start an FC with them
or if you ever decide to just kind yolo into duty finder raids and find people you really like ask to join theirs
or something
linkshells are also a good way of meeting and chatting with people too
humble prawn
someone invited me to join a fc before but i decided to not join and now i feel like i missed a good opportunity
oak smelt
nah dont worry
leaden ginkgo
if it was a random message
oak smelt
if its a blind invite id recommend ignoring it
leaden ginkgo
you probably didn’t miss a good opportunity
acoustic copper
a lot of FCs are open to recruitment
leaden ginkgo
^
acoustic copper
if you find a group of people you like you can check their FC and see if their accepting people
humble prawn
oh the random invites i know those are just people trying to get more people
humble prawn
oh sick
acoustic copper
which world are you on?
humble prawn
crystal malburo
acoustic copper
ah can't help you i'm on aether lol
humble prawn
i also wanted to ask what would be a good server to do raids on
acoustic copper
well
humble prawn
ik im level 25 but i wanna know these things ahead of time
acoustic copper
duty finder and all that is crossworld now
so that's not really a problem anymore
for aether it used to be gilgamesh which is why i'm on here
but i don't think it really matters anymore
you can throw up a partyfinder and anyone from any world on your data center can join it
humble prawn
fcs are crossworld too?
humble prawn
unfortunate
acoustic copper
yeah :/
oak smelt
@humble prawn
the only thing you should keep in mind is if you want a big fc(100+) or a medium sized one(~50).
id recommend against a really small one(less than 15 or so) unless you know those people(know that theyl be online) since if the core members stop playing everything goes poof.
acoustic copper
^ that's true
my FC is mostly just me and a bunch of college buddies
half of our static members aren't even in our FC lol
oak smelt
also. if you plan to RP in the future keep that in mind. in that case its better to join an RP specific or RP friendly FC.
humble prawn
so i would wanna join a fc with 20-30 people?
acoustic copper
I can't remember but I think Malboro is supposed to be the RP server on crystal isn't it lol
acoustic copper
a medium sized FC are usually pretty safe
twilit arch
balmung and mateus are considered the unofficial rp servers
humble prawn
balmung is the legacy server right>
acoustic copper
yeah i remembered balmung being an RP server since my first FC got ran into the ground since the FC leader wanted to RP harder lol
not sure about that one
open ember
@humble prawn Balmung is a legacy server yes
oak smelt
@little swift ah i forgot. which trust members should i level? is there a consensus on the best composition? i mean between dps and healers. obv theres just one tank.
twilit arch
it doesn't matter
they're all pretty much gonna give you similar results, trusts are designed to take roughly 30mins per run
oak smelt
i see. so just my preference.
leaden ginkgo
yeah, unlike what people say they don’t have different ai than other ones
oak smelt
isnt there a recurring thing tho that ShB spoilers ||alfy is a worse healer than uri?||
twilit arch
no
acoustic copper
is there really a reason to level trusts?
oak smelt
hmm. i see. also can the ai deal with stuff like living dead?
twilit arch
yes, they are perfectly fine to level with
acoustic copper
i seee
twilit arch
and i've seen people swear by urianger and by alphinaud
wintry chasm
^
twilit arch
i've leveled both of them, personally prefer urianger cos cards
but one is not better than the other
humble prawn
okay so i found that fc that tried to recruit me earlier what should i be looking for in a fc at least for learning and leveling?
sorry for sounding like a broken robot
acoustic copper
nah you're fine
wintry chasm
okay so i found that fc that tried to recruit me earlier what should i be looking for in a fc at least for learning and leveling?
Just...being nice?
acoustic copper
yeah
really no way to find out if you'll like it til you join lol
ideally for leveling I guess hopefully they'll have heat of battle constantly up?
heat of battle and reduced teleports are always nice for leveling
oak smelt
@humble prawn they should have a discord. join that first and check out how things are. how active they are. what the mood etc is like. stuff like that.
humble prawn
oh i dont mean like i want to use them
oak smelt
if you want a sense of community a discord is a must imo.
also keep in mind what times you play. if you regularly play at off peak times then check if they have people online around then.
acoustic copper
oofie
i mean there's no harm in just joining and seeing how it is
if you don't like it you can always dip out later
oak smelt
and just because an fc has 30 members it doesnt mean 30 members will be online.
often times the regular players are a fraction of that.
acoustic copper
^ true
humble prawn
it says on the lodestone that they are always active
acoustic copper
my FC is like 13 people but there's really only like 7 active players
oak smelt
that doesnt matter
obsidian patio
You can try taking a look through the new community finder site
acoustic copper
like cev said you could check the discord first
but if they don't have one then you kinda just have to yolo it
humble prawn
yeah ill probably just do that
acoustic copper
go for it
humble prawn
thank you so much everyone
acoustic copper
np we just want you to have fun and enjoy the game
remote lintel
some things i would consider are
do you want a small, close knit fc or a large one? do you want them to be new player friendly? do you want the fc chat to be poppin all the time? are you fine with less activity?
things like that
oak smelt
@humble prawn
its ok to worry. i dont like joining and then quitting communities plus i switched to EU from JP and i had to leave my FC so i was sad. so i spent a good long while checking out stuff before joining one.
its why i rec picking one with a discord. you can get to know people before committing.
its also fine to jump around till you find one
that you like. its what most people do
jaunty gorge
Do the skysteel tools need a 100% spiritbond as well? I'm missing something and I am hoping that's it
acoustic copper
spiritbond shouldn't matter
that just lets you extract materia out of it
are you talking about when you're trying to upgrade it?
jaunty gorge
Yes
acoustic copper
all you need is the base tool and then the crafted mats to go along with it
should be in the special recipes tab under ishgard restoration i think
you need to craft those with the skysteel tool equipped
jaunty gorge
Speaking of the pickaxe to be precise
acoustic copper
ahhh
you need to gather specific things and trade those in
along with the pick
acoustic copper
I think you might need to have the pickaxe unequipped
yeah i think so
just switch to an alt class or something haha
jaunty gorge
Will try
little swift
you can't turn in the pickaxe if its in your hand
acoustic copper
which i think is kinda dumb
"it's right here in my hands take it and upgrade it pls"
twilit arch
you literally cannot be without a weapon
little swift
the steps 3/4 need you to be in that class as well so pick up a lv1 pickaxe
to swap to it
acoustic copper
^^ good info ty
twilit arch
so thats why it can't be equipped when you're trying to exchange it to upgrade
jaunty gorge
Well that didn't work either
acoustic copper
oof
are you working on the +1 tool?
supposedly you need 340 of t he HQ stuff
oh
nvm you have it
jaunty gorge
Nvm it's one of the Dudes without the quest symbol above their head
jaunty gorge
yes and now off to another grind
acoustic copper
glhf
jaunty gorge
lapis bolt
Paladin hotbar setup?
remote lintel
zinc orbitBOT
remote lintel
under recent players
acoustic copper
social -> contacts
leaden ginkgo
aw ty
grand wharf
Do you need to be level 80/have a level 80 to get the second upgrade for the Bozjan Relic Weapon?
faint flare
Unspoiled nodes are timed nodes where you can only have 1 gathering sessions of them per node. They're usually for collectibles and higher end crafting receipes
twilit arch
you need to be lvl 80 to even start the bozja relic
manic flare
so i am following a guide, but i don't understand the point of this
There are unspoiled botany nodes out there in the world which, when GATHERED AS A COLLECTIBLE, gives you a unique, un-sellable item whose only use is to be handed in to an NPC in Mor Dhona for EXP and scrips!
what are scrips and why would i even need them?
manic flare
so they are like ironworks gear, except for gatherers?
faint flare
Scrips are essentially crafting/gathering tomes
desert bone
@@grand wharf worth mentioning that you can start the quest on a lvl 80 and grind the components on a lower level job
warm trellis
I have to do every msq to unlock copied factory ? Or do I just need to beat the quest “shadowbringers” and the dying gasp trial?
verbal rune
So, I was wondering, why is blue mage such a meme? It looks cool on paper
warped nest
XIV battle system is not very compatible with BLU
obsidian patio
They’re a limited job, which basically makes them a form of side content.
You learn spells with them and then do content to learn more spells and achievements/titles/other collectables
warped nest
BLU iconic design is learning spell from monsters.
If BLU is a full on job, it means a lot of gating need to be done to make sure BLU learnt all the required spells to participate in contents. And this just opens up a can of worms on designs and progression.
Which is too much work for a single Job.
gritty oracle
BLU is essentially a completely separate system from actual jobs, like crafting or gardening.
warped nest
BLU is a mini game disguised as a Job
verbal rune
If BLU is a full on job, it means a lot of gating need to be done to make sure BLU learnt all the required spells to participate in contents. And this just opens up a can of worms on designs and progression.
@warped nest I mean, isn't SMN technically the same on a concept stand point? Since you have to kill Summon incarnation to get their relative skill
Tought I understand that Blu works differently
gritty oracle
Lchronos means the game would need to say "you need this spell and this spell and this spell collected before you can queue for this duty"
Summoner is also kinda gated, in that you need certain progress in the MSQ (killing the primals) to unlock the class quest to get your new egis.
But they would need to do this to an extreme degree with blue mage, since they need to collect all their spells by themselves
warped nest
I enjoyed using BLU in FFTA
leaden ginkgo
everyone is ffxiv closing
verbal rune
(Also vampire in Bravely default)
warped nest
I spent a lot of time NOT progressing story in FFTA to make sure I got all the BLU spell first
As some monsters can become missable once you are far enough into story
verbal rune
Also getting enemy skill in ff7
zinc orbitBOT
obsidian patio
@leaden ginkgo no? What makes you say that.
zealous flower
might have meant like for maintenance or something
open ember
We just had maintenance last week so no
crimson wind
Is not using Riddle of Earth on CD a dps loss
frosty stump
for bitter memories is it a gurenteed drop at the end of the 60 dungeon or? and can I do it more than once a day?
fluid dagger
Any good options to enhance graphics on this game?
fluid dagger
is that the same as gshade?
remote lintel
gshade is a mod of reshade
twilit arch
gshade is basically a modified version of reshade
remote lintel
pick either one
fluid dagger
oh ok
leaden ginkgo
I need all level 5 armor for a quest how would I go about getting that?
remote lintel
vendor in the city
remote lintel
a few hundred
leaden ginkgo
I have 200
outer plank
@remote lintel @crimson wind well technically it’s how or when you use riddle of earth but yeah itself no a dps decreases unless you don’t have true north up and you can’t really move out of position
remote lintel
your class gear should also be ilvl 5
leaden ginkgo
Class gear?
dreamy warren
Looking at PF - What is The Hunt? Is that for like, Nuts/Centurios?
leaden ginkgo
Hm it’s weird that I don’t have it then
dreamy warren
tyyyyyyyy
obsidian patio
@frosty stump guaranteed from level 60 dungeons
frosty stump
ok, thx
leaden ginkgo
I’m going to be a Doh so should I ignore all the side quests?
obsidian patio
No you still need to do the job quests for the crafting classes
If you mean for leveling them up
Also crafting/gathering jobs can’t do combat sidequests or get their experience
obsidian patio
normal sidequests can be ignored for the most part, yes.
leaden ginkgo
Ok thanks
zinc orbitBOT
frail shale
is there a guide for what materias to meld for classes?
is it just basic crit > dh > det for most classes?
gleaming mist
you can find more in depth melding priorities for each job in the balance, but it sort of boils down to that, yeah
some jobs you want to hit a certain gcd tier so your rotation starts to work/works better
frail shale
got it. thanks
manic flare
i can only find one treasure map per day, correct?
frail shale
yep
remote lintel
per 18 hours
frail shale
which is technically once a day
manic flare
is there any additional benefit to leveling up a gatherer to level 60, is there something impressive that gets unlocked once u reach gatherer level 60?
i have one at 52, but thinking of leveling up a different class
frail shale
levequest and having the means of gathering stuff urself other than buying them off the market
remote lintel
there are titles if you level all gatherers up
open ember
First one
remote lintel
i would tone down the contrast on the first one
remote lintel
that looks better
fluid dagger
👍 😃
cedar ice
Does the Alphascape v1.0 drop per clear ?
lavish vortex
hi!!, im looking for some good samaritan with the time and patience to explain me LR mechanic for e8s, Sharingan strat specifically
shrewd mirage
how does glamour plates work? do i need uh glamour prisms for it?
twilit arch
no, you only need a prism to put items into the dresser
remote lintel
!faq glamourdresser
zinc orbitBOT
cinder patio
Hey so I have a question: is it acceptable to skip E7S to go for E8S? BiS pants for dancer is Aug Cryst so I already have as close to BiS as possible without completing E8S. So I don’t actually need anything from E7S.
But given he difficulty of E8S, I’m concerned that if I take a shortcut by skipping 7 that it might be a problem. Has anyone here completed E8S and know if it would actually be beneficial for me to complete 7 first? I have done 5 and 6 a ton of times
manic flare
what does slot mean in terms of botanist for heavensward?
faint flare
Where it spawns in the node
Each nodes have slots, and it says what slot each item is in
leaden ginkgo
I am now confused I’m currently leveling up as an Arcanist and I just completed a quest that said I could now choose my next class/job quest
I’m trying to be a dog
Doh
Did I do something wrong?
remote lintel
no
faint flare
After doing your lv10 class quest you can go pick up other classes
remote lintel
it means you can upgrade to summoner or scholar
faint flare
Do the "So you want to be a X" at the respective guilds
cinder patio
@remote lintel so if 7 is easier then 6, and I can farm 6 without much trouble, does that mean I should be good to skip 7 and start 8?
leaden ginkgo
Oh and I can still get a job on this char right?
remote lintel
summoner/scholar is the job
faint flare
Yes
remote lintel
@cinder patio sure if you want
faint flare
You can be all jobs on one character
leaden ginkgo
Yay
remote lintel
arcanist is just the base class
cinder patio
Ayy thanks! I am ready to suffer and find why people fear light rampart so much
faint flare
And for crafting, you want to do all crafters and gatherers
leaden ginkgo
And I unlock the doh jobs at 80 rite?
faint flare
No
remote lintel
you unlock them whenever
faint flare
After doing your lv10 class quest
leaden ginkgo
Wdym all crafters and gatherers?
remote lintel
it means you level them all at the same time
faint flare
Crafting is one big package
remote lintel
together
faint flare
Yes
leaden ginkgo
Yayayyayayayayay
hasty musk
crafters are Domain of the Hand, gatherers are Domain of the Land for reference
remote lintel
its easier to level them when you unlock the firmament at lvl 60
leaden ginkgo
What are the respective guilds if I may query
remote lintel
theyre in all the main cities
faint flare
The guilds in the cities of each crafter
remote lintel
lominsa has fisher
leaden ginkgo
So I have to go to multiple cities?
faint flare
Yes
remote lintel
yes
leaden ginkgo
Rip
verbal rune
You'll get there at level 15
faint flare
The story takes you there at lv15
verbal rune
So not really a big deal
leaden ginkgo
So I should keep doing main quests???
faint flare
You cant unlock anything without story done
It locks EVERYTHING
Including zones and such
leaden ginkgo
Where exactly is the guild
fluid dagger
Hey guys is there a way for camera to auto zoom when talking to NPCS? and then go back to ur usual camera when convo is done?
shell dagger
you know those singing cluster quests where you gotta do dungeons and stuff? do you need to play as the job for the anima weapon you want in order to fulfill those quests, or can it be any job?
little swift
it can be any job to fulfill the weekly quests
you just have to complete the objective
shell dagger
excellent. thanks!
faint flare
@leaden ginkgo they're marked on the map. Fisher is in lower limsa and culinary and blacksmith/armourer are upper limsa
Take aether shards to help travel
verbal rune
Hey guys is there a way for camera to auto zoom when talking to NPCS? and then go back to ur usual camera when convo is done?
@fluid dagger sadly, I don't think so. You have to zoom in yourself
fluid dagger
ok that's too bad, thanks
leaden ginkgo
So is it one quest I have to complete or a whole chain?
remote lintel
theyre the class quests
you complete a couple to unlock the class and learn it
and then you get one every 5 levels or so
leaden ginkgo
Is there like a list that shows me which quests I have to do
remote lintel
whatever the fisher guild gives you?
leaden ginkgo
It gave me a quest and I completed it and the guy said it was good but then he has another quest above him
Do I just go back to fishing guild?
remote lintel
yes
faint flare
And equip the tool you're given to change to that job
remote lintel
tactical planning
leaden ginkgo
It’s called Tactical planning?
faint flare
Way if the arcanist is your Lv1 quest
remote lintel
leaden ginkgo
O
weak bobcat
Hi guys. Laptop with ryzen 5 3550h and gtx 1650 4gb or ryzen 4600h and gtx 1050 3gb?
Ryzen 5 4600h*
remote lintel
1050 isnt great
leaden ginkgo
Cerberus can u link me that wiki page
remote lintel
robust notch
Seems like the first one has a better GPU, second has a better CPU
jade thorn
Is it bad to hit the levelcap before the main story ends
leaden ginkgo
Thx
robust notch
I wouldn't ask for PC advice in here though
remote lintel
@jade thorn yes
jade thorn
damn
remote lintel
change class
robust notch
Try to actually research stuff on YT or stuff like that
weak bobcat
I did
jade thorn
Thought so
honest anvil
you’re bound to hit level cap before story ends if you play only 1 job though
weak bobcat
But I want to know overall the best
remote lintel
jade thorn
I have a bit of work to do with my second job
honest anvil
Even 2 jobs with road to 70
jade thorn
and it’s a dps which means raids take forever to load
honest anvil
Let your dps receive quest exp most often
jade thorn
started as pugilist then leveled paladin past it and now it’s my main job, with lancer secondary
leaden ginkgo
Summoner is gud class rite?
zinc orbitBOT
honest anvil
this game is remarkably balanced so all classes are good
oak smelt
shb boss question
||in the first dungeon's final boss, i think philia is its name? when it chains one member of your party does the tank need to help with it or are the healer and other dps enough? in the trusts i just left them and they dpsd it down and with the df the healer and other dps were able to shred it too but one of them still kept flaming me for not helping. i just stayed put and kept doing damage since i figured i wasnt needed.||
||oh wait no maybe they were flaming me because its better if we free up the dps quickly since their damage is greater? so the sooner they can get out the better. that makes more sense now that i think about it.||
raven sage
There's no reason why everyone shouldn't be doing it
You just make it take longer by not
oak smelt
ye thats what i figured
twilit arch
the boss isn't targetting you with any thing during that
so no reason to not help yeah
robust notch
We talking Holminster Switch?
twilit arch
yes
oak smelt
yeah
robust notch
Everyone should be helping the caged person, yes
lavish vortex
Hi! I just bought the wrong gear with 6 furor books, is there a way to undo it or recover the books? Please tell me there is a way!!
robust notch
Boss won't move, so tank moving won't matter for positioning either way
oak smelt
yeah il keep it in mind for next time
robust notch
The quicker you free the person, the sooner you all can focus on dpsing again
twilit arch
nope, no way to undo. you'll just have to run furor again @lavish vortex
robust notch
@oak smelt TO add on to what you said, don't beat yourself up over not helping and getting flamed at
DPS is just as much to blame for being an ass (or if it was the Healer who flamed you), since the DPS should be able to destroy that restrain in no time at all.
oak smelt
i used to play LoL. im used to flame haha. and its the first time anyones ever flamed me in 14 so no biggie. plus i pulled too much trash earlier and we died. so the 2 DPS were pretty salty about that.
robust notch
No way to pull too much trash in Holminster
You either didn't use mitigation properly, the healer didn't heal properly, or the dps didn't kill the enemies fast enough
Always one weak link in the chain
But anyways, good job on taking some form of criticism at least ^^
Gotta live and learn.
oak smelt
it was the second part of the path through the fields. i did a wall to wall. we were doing fine until then but it took longer than i thought it would and i died. i didnt check if the healer had forgotten or something. all i remember before dying was that all my mit skills were at some point in their CDs so i think i did everything right.
the whole dungeon took a while so i think we were low on dmg.
remote lintel
were you trying to stack mitigation together?
remote lintel
the fields shouldnt be as difficult to wall to wall pull
oak smelt
i think the big rampart was coming off of cd when i died
i call it big rampart whatever the 30% one is
remote lintel
prob the healer not being able to keep up
oak smelt
we would have made it but i flubbed my clemency.
so either way it was my fault lol
i pressed the wrong button
ye im thinking it was one or more people messing up since like i said we were doing fine with wall to walls up til then. maybe the healer since i wasnnt forced to use clemency earlier.
*or maybe i stepped in an aoe that i missed. when the bulls are standing staggered on top of each other its sometimes hard to see the markers
faint flare
Thats usually the cause of deaths, and slow dps
silk summit
Just got shake it off on WAR
Should I stress over getting the bonuses from the other abilities, or is it just a "if it happens, cool" type thing
robust notch
!action shake it off
zinc orbitBOT
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faint flare
If it happens then cool mainly
Unless you need extra mitigation and have cooldown to spare
finite trout
Hi guys. For the Weekly quest where you can get singing clusters x18 do you need 3 books?
drowsy lichen
do you have to join a FC with the same Grand Company that you picked? or does just the Data Center + World need to match?
finite trout
Also, If I took the quest today tomorrow the quest resets or stay where I progressed?
obsidian patio
@finite trout you just run leveling roulette 3 times for the 18 clusters
finite trout
And in 7 hour is the reset?
obsidian patio
!weekly
zinc orbitBOT
Tick, Tock, Kupo!
obsidian patio
8 and a half to complete the quest
finite trout
Rip
obsidian patio
You can still do it, you don’t need the daily bonus for it to count
obsidian patio
...lemme double check
finite trout
Yeah I know but it’s late here, was just asking... If I did it already 1 time tomorrow I’ll start from 0?
obsidian patio
The quest itself won’t reset with weekly reset
finite trout
Oh at least
obsidian patio
But completing it after the weekly reset won’t let you grab it for next week
AFAIK
finite trout
Oh I see. Looks like I’m gonna buy the other clusters with poetics
silk summit
Custom deliveries says 7:19 til next reset, so yeah, I think it didn't adjust
remote lintel
does the squadron battle manual work for enemies defeated in dungeons
leaden ginkgo
Reset?
Oh
Where can I find the Western Nicaea gate
Is it upper decks or lower decks
leaden ginkgo
I need to use the ferry?
remote lintel
yes
remote lintel
aleport
remote lintel
what level is your msq
leaden ginkgo
11
plain python
just walk there
leaden ginkgo
How do I walk there
plain python
on foot? I don't remember it is in lower or middle la noscea, but you walk there, through the gate
remote lintel
it connects to middle la noscea
leaden ginkgo
O
agile laurel
it also connects to outer la noscea on the western side but that's not relevant
tl;dr la noscea really sucks to navigate at first
plain python
how does wonderous tail work? Is it a bingo?
plain python
if I run leveling, trial or alliance routtele at level cap, will I get bonus poetic?
remote lintel
no
plain python
I should nuke leveling then, all of my available classes are already lv60 🤔
free-trial limit
bronze narwhal
which one should I elect between these two? Or perhaps, which one has the best story outcome out of these two?
faint flare
The difference is the different monument built
It just reflects your choice
There's no best outcome
Just you decide what the history is
bronze narwhal
So it only affect the monument appearance thats all?
faint flare
Yes
zinc orbitBOT
bronze narwhal
aight thank youu
faint flare
Do you wanna be an ass and think thry were hunted and hated, or be nice and think they were welcomed
Basically the short of it
gusty storm
what does paladin do thats interesting
bronze narwhal
I seee
faint flare
It has two phases of its rotation, a melee phase and a magic phase, the magic phase helps keeps up uptime when it lines ip with mechanics. Also the best job at soloing with Hallowed and clemency
gusty storm
ok what does warrior do thats interesting
faint flare
Unga bunga DPS, big boy hits with guaranteed Direct hit crits....Nascent is really good in trash pulls to just heal yourself to full for free
amber bison
Hello, I've beaten the ultimate weapon thingy and I'm wondering as a paladin aiming to move on to being a gunbreaker if there is any merit to any ARR postgame... or if it is immediately outlived by HW quest gear. I played AAAGES ago in ARR when crystal tower basement and the spaceship with the enrage timer orb were the only raid progression with some hardmode dungeons for better gear that was evenstar (I was BLM back then). So I'm fairly familiar with the ARR endgame, but I'm wondering if skipping to HW is better?
faint flare
You only need to do crystal tower and hard mode primals to get to heavensward
Gear wise get ironworks with poetics
Coils aren't needed at all and can skip if you want
Any other side stuff is optional and more poetics if you want
amber bison
poetics is that what you get from hardmode dungeons? I remeber back then they were capped
hot temple
I can't see whenever a new member joins my FC and I can't figure out what setting to check in order to see that. I have both Free Company Announcements and Free Company Member Login Notifications checked, but I'm not seeing when a new member joins us... ??? To be clear, I am not referring to the FC window, I'm referring to text chat.
amber bison
its not p2w, you can skip content to get to the new expac and lvl60 I think. Thats not winning though, its just free progression
faint flare
Lv70
amber bison
its kinda expensive, its designed for people wanting to get into the fray of new content
which I dont actually condemn
some people just wanna play new stuff and thats ok
faint flare
Skips aren't recommended for first timers
rustic hornet
question about challenge log: what are unique challenges?
amber bison
NGL grinding through the MSQ in ARR (vanilla) was REALLY tedious
its old and I had already done it before is the thing for me
years ago so it was a fucky deja vu trip
there is a questline that takes you through the whole story and unlocks all content in due pace
faint flare
Story is MANDATORY to unlock content
hot temple
Nobody knows an answer to my question? :c
amber bison
but can be tedious to slog through the really mundane and sometimes unnecessary quests like walking back and forth 50x XD
beyond that its GREAT game
hot temple
If this is just general chat can you please move somewhere else? my question is getting buried.
astral crescent
just beat stormblood, Augmented scaevan magitek gear is what I want correcct?
faint flare
Yes
astral crescent
thanks!
hot temple
Question: I can't see whenever a new member joins my FC and I can't figure out what setting to check in order to see that. I have both Free Company Announcements and Free Company Member Login Notifications checked, but I'm not seeing when a new member joins us... ??? To be clear, I am not referring to the FC window, I'm referring to text chat.
lone spruce
Anyone know how to get up there?
faint flare
Idk if there's a chat setting for that 🤷♂️
polar hound
That should be the setting, are you in a duty/instanced area when they join?
it won't show if you are, i think.
lone spruce
I literally can't see shit when it's nighttime in this game lmao
rigid narwhal
it's just really annoying ahahaha. you've got to like... go the right way, get up there
lone spruce
I ran into several rocks earlier and struggled because I couldn't see where they were
polar hound
@hot temple ^
rigid narwhal
and i can't remember exactly where, but it's so annoying
lone spruce
It's just pitch black
hot temple
@polar hound I was in a duty when they joined. Maybe that's it?
rigid narwhal
if i was on aether i'd come 2 person mount you
lone spruce
I appreciate the thought
remote lintel
if youre in a duty i dont think it shows up
faint flare
You can jump over the railings of the ziggurat stairs and run around
lone spruce
I was trying to do that but
faint flare
From downwards at an angle
rigid narwhal
oh wait
lone spruce
I literally can't see anything that side of the temple due to the moonlight being obscured
rigid narwhal
that's the easy one, not the one i thought it was
polar hound
@hot temple I'm 99% certain it doesn't show if you're in a duty...give it a try with an alt outside of duty. that is the setting, so unless you turned it on for a seperate chat window/tab, should be okay
lone spruce
Like I couldn't even see the stairs, I kept fumbling around the side until I found them
remote lintel
@lone spruce go to the platform halfway up the ziggurat and theres a place where you can drop down on the sides
rigid narwhal
you go up the the first floor iirc and then just fall off to the right spot
remote lintel
and once you drop down just run around the side
lone spruce
I think I got it
I can sort of make out what's around me if I squint
I'll just...walk very slow
leaden ginkgo
anyone free to do bowels of embers normal for a friend with me
long queue times right now
lol
rigid narwhal
@lone spruce https://slpe.me/i/p91169c.png
change that setting
the gamme correction
lone spruce
I know I did that
I went to both sides of the spectrum
Looks exactly the same to me
lone spruce
Which is weird since I've consistently gotten 20/20 on my vision tests but oh well
polar hound
i've generally found that the game was too bright for me, and resort to shaders to darken it for my gameplay..your issue sounds..not normal lol
leaden ginkgo
why is facet gear more expensive than neo-ishgardian or aesthete?
rigid narwhal
cos it's just for glamour now
manic flare
how do i complete the weaver quest where you have to deliver a materia enhanced piece of clothing?
obsidian patio
Meld materia to it
You’ll need any grade 1 materia since that’s the only size that can fit into the requested item
plain python
is it better for a Warrior lv60 to just build up his bar for two Fell Cleave manually, get the 10% damage buff up, and then use go Berserk + Fell Cleave x4?
obsidian patio
Honestly I find it too much of a nightmare to try to optimize Berserk since it feels pretty clunky before becoming inner release
Just don’t intentionally overcap your gauge or let Infuriate stay capped too
little swift
Also overall id rather use infuriate early
And let it start recharging
Than hold it
gleaming mist
at 60 i would do something like:
heavy swing > infuriate > finish eye combo > heavy > maim > berserk > path > fc
leaden ginkgo
why does SE hate us so
plain python
queue in prime time?
obsidian patio
24-mans are like the only thing tanks have a bad queue for
leaden ginkgo
nope, had work so i couldnt
plain python
I found it easier to get in after daily reset
leaden ginkgo
Question: If I do a BattleCraft LeveQuest on class A and turn it on Class B. Does class A or B get the exp?
its like 4am lol
plain python
the class your turn in
mossy tartan
Is curing waltz a 1-way heal? Or can it be stacked when you stand on top of your dance partner?
wheat plume
In the optional rewards from one quest, there are 2 earrings with the exact same bonuses and they can be used by the same jobs. What's the difference then? (Hardsilver Earrings of Fending HQ and Hardsilver Earrings of Slaying HQ)
raven sage
curing waltz heals you and anyone within 3 yalms of you
It also heals your dance partner and anyone within 3 yalms of them
mossy tartan
I know, but the same healing effect is emitted from my dance partner as well. If we stand on top of each other, do we get healed twice?
raven sage
It's all the same heal
mossy tartan
Okay
zinc orbitBOT
waxen sand
i need halp trying to play piano ig, the midi is only occasionally inputting into ffxiv
faint flare
If you stand ontop of your dance partner, you get healed twice with curing waltz @mossy tartan
faint flare
Curing waltz basically gets casted on you and your partner, allowing for double heal
Its something
raven sage
I must not be near my dance partners often enough then that's good to know
faint flare
I often try to get near them whenever I use it just for extra health for me
And them
lapis bolt
Can I ask for tech help here?
remote lintel
sure if its not super specific
lofty moon
you can turn them in during a trial ?