like id get matched within 30 secs of finding a guide
#questions-and-help
verbal rune
Just to be clear, if I switch GC, do I retain my rank, or do I have to restart?
rigid dune
flashbacks to when i did 1.0 as a dps
faint flare
Your rank in the Old company is kept
proud willow
if you switch GC, your current rank is frozen and you start fresh in the new GC
but you'll get your old rank back if you ever switch back
zinc orbitBOT
uncut ether
hey guys i just had a PF up and then we queued. it popped and 1 guy didnt accept. then the entire party disband instantly.
does 1 person have the power to do that normally or was it a bug that disband party like that?
tacit atlas
The leader was the one that didn't accept I guess lol
uncut ether
i was the leader and i accept
tacit atlas
Only the leader can disband
uncut ether
tacit atlas
That's weird
uncut ether
it happened instantly after someone didnt accept
tacit atlas
The party disbands automatically if it's just the leader
Did they all join together?
mortal current
It seems to me like at least the first 2 people were together and they decided they didn't want to do it anymore for whatever reason.
tacit atlas
Maybe one of them had an emergency and they left because of that
mortal current
They all manually left -- 1 person didn't force the party to disband.
tacit atlas
^
uncut ether
the minute is changed because it was on the last second of the minute
was 2 dif groups
lone spruce
Oof that happened to me in alliance raid once for crystal tower
In total I think I waited uh like 2 hours for a party
tacit atlas
Sometimes people just go "suddenly I don't want to do this anymore" and just wait until somebody else leaves
lone spruce
Also stupid question but can you sit on tables in this game?
verbal rune
So, where do I buy green gryshal to summon chocobos?
faint flare
You can make the illusion of sitting on a table if you glitch a stool under it
tacit atlas
You can do the /sit command on them I guess lol
I bought mine on the golden saucer a long time ago so I don't really know about other places where they are sold
lone spruce
Yeah you can use the sit on ground emote on top of a table but I wish there was like a casual lean against table emote
Or like sitting on the table with your legs hanging off the side, one leg crossed over the other
wintry chasm
So, where do I buy green gryshal to summon chocobos?
Can buy it from like a dozen NPCs. The easiest ones to bring up is you can buy it from the same NPCs you can buy the starting race gear from in the main starting cities
Bango Zango in Limsa Lominsa for example by the main aetheryte
robust notch
You can buy them on the Marketboard for dirt cheap
little swift
they're dirt cheap in general
robust notch
Oh, I see
verbal rune
Figures, the only vendor I didn't check
leaden ginkgo
Can someone tell me when 5.4 is scheduled for
robust crow
yeah just buy like 500
gritty oracle
In E7S during add phase, when the idolatry adds do their donut or point blank aoe things, do they always do the opposite ones or is it random per add?
errant ginkgo
(PC) Hello, what's a good alternative for razer naga? Synapse keeps crashing and I've had about enough with it D:
robust crow
they stack in your inventory and you may as well get a healthy chunk of them
gritty oracle
early December
leaden ginkgo
Thank you
leaden ginkgo
First aoes are always donuts, after that one donut and one circle p sure
errant ginkgo
Thank you renaulte
raw solstice
correct
robust crow
logitech has a good MMO mouse too
i can't remember the model number but it also has numerous thumb buttons like the scimitar
lone spruce
Lore question but are there any special flowers in FFXIV? Like specific flowers that are named in the game
unkempt heath
For doing the fates for anima weapon do you need it equipped unlike in the zone?
dusty jungle
Corsair's is probably the best in the market because it has the adjustable slider but probably a better question for #technology-discussion
little swift
the logitech g600 is fine as well
For doing the fates for anima weapon do you need it equipped unlike in the zone?
step 1 is the only fate farm and you don't ahve a weapon to equip yet
remote lintel
@lone spruce all the botany materials tbh
remote lintel
sell
remote lintel
exactly
gentle quarry
Sell or if you have chocobo you can put some in saddlebags
If you have retainers you can try and offload in market board but otherwise just sell the low lvl materials
cyan egret
Can I ask a question can I gift someone a a items no the online store
obsidian patio
Yes, buy it as a gift
You’ll get a code to send to your friend that they redeem for the item
scarlet hinge
||How old are out character because Ardbert said a hundred years has passed since the flood is he referring to out world years?||
faint flare
||Referring to His world years. Your age is as old as you want to be||
scarlet hinge
||How much time has passed from arr to the beginning of shadowbringer?||
scarlet hinge
Thats crazy quick
obsidian patio
The only real concrete progression of time is the leveling story for SHB, which is around a week at minimum due to all the times we’re forced to sleep at the inn
scarlet hinge
oh
obsidian patio
And then also the boat ride from Limsa to Kugane for what was probably a few months? I remember there being a lot of debate on that
remote lintel
time doesnt exist
zinc orbitBOT
scarlet hinge
||Ardbert said that minfilia and his friend faded away but him. What does he mean by faded away because I remember seeing minfilia in the previous cutscenes?||
slate arrow
Personally, I think each MSQ quest takes at least a day in real time, minimum, especially since every zone is highly compressed in size
remote lintel
@scarlet hinge ||minfilia went back to being with hydaelyn but his friends properly died||
scarlet hinge
||So from what he said they practically made not progress in saving that world. So thats why we are here right?||
blazing cipher
i just unlock bard and want to do the music stuff how do i make the keybord bigger
scarlet hinge
ic
remote lintel
so they saved those who were still alive
scarlet hinge
u can't i don't think
karmic veldt
Each MSQ quest?
fiery glacier
does anyone in here know how to make discord bots for a fc discord chat im makeing I made a bot already but I can't get it to do any of that at world thing Or anything really
obsidian patio
Sniffing horsebirds is very exhausting
karmic veldt
kekek
remote lintel
sounds like a question for #technology-discussion
obsidian patio
@blazing cipher if it’s like any other UI try right-clicking the top or top-right of it
karmic veldt
Anyway, the boat ride from Eorzea to Kugane is canonically two months.
But time doesn't actually pass because the writers use Simpsons time.
obsidian patio
👌
remote lintel
its 2 months but no time passes 
scarlet hinge
Will black , white, red mages ever be able to promote to wizard?
remote lintel
those jobs are already promoted
crisp ether
black mage was thaumaturge, white mage was conjuror, red mage was a cat
cedar compass
Is the estinien instance of 5.1 representative of how it feels to play DRG?
karmic veldt
Guys
crisp ether
somewhat
crisp ether
its a very dumbed down version
remote lintel
gandalf
cedar compass
I mean it's 3 buttons lol
karmic veldt
That wears a pointy white hood?
crisp ether
right
remote lintel
it is
cedar compass
Maybe it'll be my melee class
karmic veldt
Ahem, anyway, the Wizard versions of those jobs haven't been a thing since FF1.
cedar compass
I was going to go for samurai
crisp ether
similar to when you did the ||thancred vs ranjit fight,|| the controls were very simple
remote lintel
spoiler tag
fiery glacier
Hello anyone
crisp ether
nobody home
cedar compass
Oh so his skills aren't actual DRG skills?
scarlet sandal
I think he also literally only has AOE skills
remote lintel
i'm pretty sure theyre very very similar
scarlet sandal
It's as much as Dragoon as looking at a piece of rock and calling it a drink or something that's my
verbal rune
Ahem, anyway, the Wizard versions of those jobs haven't been a thing since FF1.
@karmic veldt i mean, they were a thing in ffIII
spare plinth
i just got rain of death on bard. for pulling aoe trash in dungeon, do i do dots, then rain and then mage?
verbal rune
Tought they were called sage and warlock I think
cedar compass
It's mindless and pretty nice lol
karmic veldt
They were not a thing in FF3.
FFIII had the Devout and the Sage for White Mage variants.
scarlet sandal
I never played the original but the Remake definitely had White Mage Black Mage
magic wren
Alright so I’m doing a relic reborn (yoshimitsu) and Gerolt is asking for a vampire dagger with two grade three heavens eye materia on it. I have it equipped annnd he doesn’t accept it. Am I missing something??
karmic veldt
And the Magus for Black Mage variants.
remote lintel
did you put materia in it
magic wren
Yup
karmic veldt
_< Bun I'm talking about White Wizard, Black Wizard, and Red Wizard.
remote lintel
the correct materia?
warped nest
@magic wren have you tried having it on inventory
scarlet sandal
oh
warped nest
Instead of being equipped?
karmic veldt
Which are upgrades to White Mage, Black Mage, and Red Mage in FF1.
magic wren
Oh I have it equipped let me see
scarlet sandal
good ol rats tail
karmic veldt
FF3 doesn't use those, it has Magus for Black Mage, Devout for White Mage, and Sage for (kind of) Red Mage.
remote lintel
prob not
karmic veldt
Technically, at the time, those weren't even called jobs.
remote lintel
also tanks deal damage and heal themselves
magic wren
It worked lol thank you!
warped nest
👌
unkempt heath
Whats the "easiest" craft to level if I just care about beast tribes
crimson wind
What actions are needed for the top area 1v1?
faint flare
Manawall and 2-3 medikits
obsidian patio
Manawall for all three, Dispel for Lyon, and 2-3 Medkits for BLM guy
crimson wind
Bringing one just in case even tho i know I'm absolute trash at Fox Fate
warped nest
@unkempt heath take note that one of the ShB beast tribe is gatherer only. Under the assumption that you will be doing at least one gatherer, I suggest Blacksmith or Goldsmith with Miner
unkempt heath
I have DoL already.
I just want a tank
That is my entire reason for leveling a crafter, a dwarven tank
little swift
cul is the most independent from the other crafters if that matters
they work with all the gatherers though
and even needing hunted items
unkempt heath
I don't mind spending a little, I have more than enough but as I'm not planning to actually utilize it I just wanted to go the cheapest route
warped nest
That's kinda why I didn't recommend culinary
you might spend too much on buying raw materials
But if you don't mind...
unkempt heath
I'll probably just do smith or goldsmith then
I don't mind within reason.
Like if I drop a million or so, whatever.
warped nest
Do you have botanist and Fisher?
unkempt heath
Yeah.
I have all the DoL maxed.
Not necessarily geared super super well.
But maxed.
north venture
hi, I found all the aether currents in "The sea of clouds" area and finished the quests but still can't fly? what's wrong ?
warped nest
Go with Channy's recommendation then
lone spruce
Is there like a list of all the flowers in the game?
warped nest
Gather most of the stuff yourself, then buy whatever you couldn't
little swift
can we see your aether currents jhinox
lone spruce
And you need to reach a certain point in msq and you'll get a quest where the reward is an aether current so maybe you still have some msq left in the sea of clouds?
Are you at the camp rose-whatever part or the bird people part
lone spruce
How do I search for flowers on mb?
little swift
they're under misc items usually iirc
verbal rune
Quick question, I got a chocobo from the GC
By it doesn't count as a companion, right?
faint flare
It is the companion
little swift
its your only companion but you can't unlock that ability until lv30
warped nest
You need to do a quest to make it one iirc
verbal rune
Got it
remote lintel
@lone spruce there's also a bunch of headgear that's just a flower in your hair
and theyre the names of flowers
north venture
@lone spruce I finished MSQ already
I am following this site and finished the quests , http://heavenswhere.com/
lone spruce
You sure you've done every sidequest for the aether currents?
north venture
do I have to do the tribe quests?
faint flare
No
warped nest
Just take a screenshot of your aether current UI
faint flare
Show your aether currents page
lone spruce
But yeah uh HW spoilers but I'm writing a scene where ||WoL leaves flowers on Haurchefant's grave but idk what flowers would be good to use. Maybe something symbolizing Ishgard? idk||
north venture
yes I did all quests marked with this --> 
and gives aether curent as reward and my compass say no current nearby
serene bison
warped nest
Then you are still missing a quest or two
little swift
to see if theres anything in real life that has symbolism
lone spruce
I mean I can study flower language all I want but it'd kinda suck if I found the perfect flower and it isn't in-game
north venture
yeah there is a missing quest I guess, I will look for it then
first time to know about aether window today lol
little swift
you would have gotten the achievement if you finished everything
Freebird: The Sea of Clouds
lone spruce
Also ideally I would've liked a flower that has special meaning in the game's lore, but I can't recall any flowers besides the ones Urianger left for (post-ARR spoilers) ||Moenbryda's grave||
verbal rune
So, what's the bot command for the job guides?
warped nest
!faq drkguide
zinc orbitBOT
warped nest
If you are doing it for yourself, use #kupo-bot-spam
Alternatively, you can join The Balance discord
They are the source
!faq balance
zinc orbitBOT
crimson wind
Ok when do i use manawall for Sartauvoir?
well i didn't get in so it doesn't matter :/
remote lintel
@lone spruce campanulas are associated with death and are often planted on graves, lilies are associated with devotion and rebirth. both of which are in game
lone spruce
What were the flowers F'lhaminn was picking in msq? Were they ever named?
They looked pretty
serene bison
LF>A New class to hit 70-80 with since I can't decide
Be biased since I don't mind abit of Biased comments about classes
ripe hound
Is there a BIS for assuming you play every job?
remote lintel
there is a bis for every job
serene bison
"BIS" < What's that
faint flare
There are omnitank and Black mage friendly BiS for jobs that share gear
Best in slot
lone spruce
Just play the sexiest class
serene bison
Idk what that is
ripe hound
I mean like a BiS that considered Ninja and Rangers sharing gear, BLM and RDM, SMN, etc.
serene bison
Idk I play everything in games
lone spruce
Well how many jobs do you already have
ripe hound
Because different classes often want different things
serene bison
so it's always hard for me to be a 1 class Nancy
ripe hound
only 5 lol
lone spruce
I'm a 1 class nancy
ripe hound
I'm actually only thinking how to share BRD and NIN gear
remote lintel
they only share accessories
ripe hound
Do neither of them want Sks?
serene bison
So far 4 classes are 70+
lone spruce
But yeah first question is do you already have all three roles covered? Healer, DPS, tank
ripe hound
Yeah,
faint flare
Nin And physical dps gear easily share cause they want the same stuff
serene bison
Machinist , Dark Knight , Red Mage , Dragoon
ripe hound
Yeah, generally speaking just don't meld Sks on right side right?
lone spruce
I mean idk what roles those are but I assume DPS and maybe tank?
faint flare
Dont meld sks at alp
ripe hound
oh
little swift
you don't meld sks at all for any of the aiming accessory jobs
they don't really need it
little swift
nin has huton
lone spruce
Looks like you're missing a heal class so go do one of those
little swift
which is natural haste
and brd has army's
and then the other 2 have 120 second rotations
ripe hound
Yeah, I just feel like ouch when my gear accidentally have some Sks...
little swift
if it has some its not the end of the world
ripe hound
I can't decide if I should meld like a single materia to go up a tier
little swift
but don't actively give yourself more for no reason
ripe hound
I mean a tier is like quite a lot right?
little swift
a tier is 0.01 sseconds
ripe hound
Like I can reach the next tier with just a single more materia...
serene bison
and Soloing Fates
ripe hound
Still no?
crimson wind
Does reraiser work in 1v1s?
little swift
yes
crimson wind
Pog
little swift
but its not something to rely on
remote lintel
why do you need to farm wolf marks and solo fates as a healer
little swift
70% isn't 100%
serene bison
No but that's what I'm farming atm
faint flare
Unless you're me and choke super hard but get raised and clear anyway
crimson wind
I love playing gacha with my life!
serene bison
And post stormblood stuff till ShB
ripe hound
Yeah... I guess I'll just give up on sks for those classes
hardy gazelle
what are phantasmagoria tomestones
ripe hound
What do I need for Resistance weapon start again?
faint flare
Lv80 currency
hardy gazelle
what can i get with them
north venture
the last quest I had to unlock flying in "The Sea of clouds" is in "The Pillars" with the name "Honoring the past", how convenient!, letting you know maybe it helps
faint flare
460 gear and mats to make current tier pots and neo ishgardian
hardy gazelle
so if i already have neo ishgardian i dont need?
zinc orbitBOT
remote lintel
its part of the story
faint flare
- crystal tower and hard mode primals cleared
faint flare
They eventually get into heavensward areas
ripe hound
I don't need to clear e6s and e7s to do e8s right?
verbal rune
F my dragoon then
ashen garden
this might be a dumb question but I was just buying master recipe books and I learned that there are master recipe glamour books too? What do these glamour books do?
ripe hound
How do you fresh prog e8s?
verbal rune
The quest is located in Isghar
ripe hound
Just go in and die more?
scarlet hinge
||For the searching for alph and alis quest in shadow it does not matter who I find first right?||
faint flare
Pretty much
ripe hound
Yeah...
scarlet hinge
👍
ripe hound
e8s is still really popular current content, so just PF up and fresh prog, I should be able to find people right?
faint flare
Probably
ripe hound
Welp
remote lintel
is it your first savage?
remote lintel
just making sure
crimson wind
don't skip to 8
serene bison
Is Ninja a complicated class?
faint flare
Not really
ripe hound
Found a new static. If I can fit in and prog e8s with them I should be good
verbal rune
So... what jobs quest require not to be in isghar to do?
ripe hound
They do understand that I'm new. But I still want to go in PF and do some practice first
But e8s is scary!
faint flare
Job quests under 50
remote lintel
all 50 - 60 job quests require HW
faint flare
All job quests 50-60 need you to be in heavensward
faint flare
Same with stormblood and 60-70
ripe hound
Yeah I've seen e6s's enrage for at least 15 times
remote lintel
oh
crimson wind
If you can't beat enrage
remote lintel
its just your party then
ripe hound
I can fairly consistently reach e6s enrage without making any mistake
verbal rune
Yeah, but dragoon lvl 30 quest is in isghard, so that's why I was asking
faint flare
Its not
remote lintel
no
ripe hound
Yeah, it was the static I mentioned yesterday. I finally decided to quit
faint flare
Ishgard is in Coerthas
serene bison
@faint flare They aren't?
remote lintel
coerthas is not ishgard
faint flare
No, ninja is pretty static
ripe hound
Also I always thought NIN is kind of like GNB
verbal rune
So I tought I needed to access Isghard in order to get dragoon
ripe hound
Every 60 sec you press a GO NOW button and just press everything
verbal rune
My bad
ripe hound
Yeah I guess it's because my other 2 dps are BRD and RDM, so I thought the 60s burst was quite unique lol
remote lintel
red mages burst is its melee phase
ripe hound
BRD have a 80s burst but there aren't much to fit in there
And RDM's burst window is proc dependent, so it varies
remote lintel
no?
ripe hound
Hun?
remote lintel
do you mean the actual burst or building up to it
ripe hound
Oh I mean how long there is between each window
remote lintel
its not super varied
ripe hound
Yeah, I guess so
opaque pewter
Where's the NPC that sells me stuff to increase mount speed for Norvrandt?
crimson wind
don't buy it
get flying
it's useless when flying is literally better on every way
opaque pewter
So I don't need m ount speed ever f or flying areas?
faint flare
No, mount speed is only for ground
crisp ether
correct
faint flare
And kinda worthless
scarlet hinge
Was the battle music changed in shadowbringer it seems like its been the same since arr?
remote lintel
yes
faint flare
It changes each expansion
remote lintel
the shb battle music is guitars
ripe hound
Is AST harder or SCH harder?
remote lintel
subjective
ripe hound
About equal?
little swift
harder in what sense
little swift
they both have perfectly fine tools to deal with every situation
but a lot of scholar's tools are tied to aetherflow
remote lintel
sch requires more planning
little swift
which are directly tied to their damage
whereas ast can just weave everything they'd need
for free
ripe hound
kk, So SCH's difficulty mostly comes from managing aetherflow. And AST's difficulty mostly comes from juggling cards?
little swift
juggling cards isn't too bad
remote lintel
juggling cards isnt difficult
scarlet hinge
Akira will u be playing summoner?
ripe hound
Nah
remote lintel
SCH's difficulty comes from not having the luxury to be like "oops, theres damage. slap a heal on it" all the time
little swift
its only a bit harder in the opener where you double weave a lot to get every card out
using lightspeed
ripe hound
Yeah, other than that, card management is pretty auto pilot
Wait so if playing cards isn't a trouble... is AST just easier SCH?
fast hull
SCH is my main healer out of sheer frustration of using it XD. Liked use it just to get the healing kit down
ripe hound
Yeah, I also main AST and it do feel not bad
outer plank
@ripe hound the skill floor for playing sch as a healer is higher then ast but the skill celling is probably higher for ast
ripe hound
Wait why?
remote lintel
i agree with what isiah said
ripe hound
Because doing perfect card juggle and planning Earth Star placement and Horoscope and stuff?
fast hull
Can u explain it to me like a 5 year old?
remote lintel
explain what
fast hull
the higher skill thing
remote lintel
planning star and horoscope arent bad
ripe hound
And you also need to play what is essentially 2 classes and adjust based on what your co-healer is and how good your group is doing?
queen flame
How do you guys store your fishing bait? There's so many different kinds. : (
faint flare
Saddlebag
outer plank
@fast hull basically scholar is more difficult to play but easier to optimize
queen flame
Do you keep all bait in there? Like every single kind?
bronze narwhal
Heya guys, another me, another question. Does tactical ability has a cap? for example I already maxed this guy's abilities, does having this trait along with elezen squadron will give him another 10% bonus? Or it will be capped at 60%?
forest inlet
If ur serious big fishing 90% of ur saddlebag is bait
outer plank
Like blm is easy to play
faint flare
You dony need EVERY SINGLE bait
remote lintel
@fast hull its harder to get a grasp on SCH but there's more room for a really really good AST player to do really well
faint flare
Just the ones you need
outer plank
But hell a hard to optimize in some fights
jade quartz
@bronze narwhal tactical ability is separate from battle tactics.
ripe hound
Oh like because if no one makes mistakes SCH becomes really easy?
dire saffron
because it loses the most from healing
remote lintel
@ripe hound it's not really playing another class
dire saffron
remote lintel
its just "these skills have shields now"
dire saffron
using any aetherflow heal thats not recitation is a 150 potency loss
using ruin 2 without energy drain is a potency loss
ripe hound
Yeah, it's just that I notice I often forget what CU and Aspected Benefic does.
dire saffron
ast is the easiest one to optimise because you dont lose anything for healing
ripe hound
Like CU is mitigation Noct, and hot on Diur
ripe hound
And AB is... I think I just don't use AB enough
remote lintel
aspected benefic is just your shield or regen
dire saffron
and the gcd heal isnt as big of a loss because your pdps is really low in the first place and most of your dps contributions come from cards and divination
keen dagger
So what we do with extra Fields notes from Bozja like a turn in for mettle cluster what, or they just become junk to sell?
fast hull
So I am confused AST in now easy to optize with a lower ceiling?
little swift
@keen dagger turn them in to the resistance historian for lockboxes
keen dagger
Thank you
dire saffron
ast is just knowing when to use heals when
bronze narwhal
I still can't memorize ast cards and still need to reach which one buffs which class 👀
ripe hound
Yeah I just often have trouble remembering if I should use aspected benefic or benefic II when the tank is low and I have nothing
dire saffron
also synching cards to buff windows
fast hull
I still can't memorize ast cards and still need to reach which one buffs which class 👀
@bronze narwhal Look at the borders
blue is melee tank
purple is range and healer
dire saffron
but if you have stuff like nin its every 60s so if you pay a bit of attention youll get there
bronze narwhal
OH
remote lintel
@ripe hound i think about it like this. on diurnal, collective uncon does what you expect it to (a shield with a side effect of regen). but on noct, it gets flipped, so its a regen with a side effect of shield
also aspected benefic has low raw healing
so i don't use it to heal when a tank is low
ripe hound
I mean aspected benefic heals the same as benefic II if you are Noct
remote lintel
no?
forest inlet
@fast hull on the skill floor sch is managing your stacks cuz your good heals are tied to those. on ast you have loads of really strong options that are essentially free. If youre really trying to push it to the limit on sch you think "everything i do is a loss, how do i minimize it" on ast "i need to know what my teammates are doing to card them properly" so you need to understand how other jobs also function somewhat
If youre just thinking healing astro is easier
ripe hound
It's 200 heal and 500 shield right?
remote lintel
thats what i meant when i said shield
ripe hound
That's 700 potency in total
dire saffron
ast draw windows automatically sync up with important raid buffs
its not that hard
remote lintel
but if you need immediate heals you don't use abenefic
fast hull
@fast hull on the skill floor sch is managing your stacks cuz your good heals are tied to those. on ast you have loads of really strong options that are essentially free. If youre really trying to push it to the limit on sch you think "everything i do is a loss, how do i minimize it" on ast "i need to know what my teammates are doing to card them properly" so you need to understand how other jobs also function somewhat
@forest inlet So basically they are the same but have different problems SCH aetherflow-faerie gauge vs AST card thing (redraw/sleeve draw)
dire saffron
noct has lesser total potency than diurnal
ripe hound
Why not? It's definitely faster than Benefic 2 right?
ripe hound
Noct abenefic
remote lintel
because if you need immediate heals and you use a low pot raw heal then your tank is going to die?
brave ravine
regen is wasted when the target is full health, which is why regen healers prefer their targets never be full health
ripe hound
Oh I was thinking about Noct abenefic and Benefic II
remote lintel
noct abenefic is just a shield
dire saffron
youd use all your ogcds first
remote lintel
^
ripe hound
Yeah I mean after I'm out of oGCD and tank is at 20%
dire saffron
if anything
ripe hound
Why not abenefic ?
fast hull
tank is going to die?
ripe hound
It's faster and same potency, it's just that 500 is shield
Wait, can the Tank die while having shields?
remote lintel
yes?
ripe hound
Wait wut?
fast hull
shield are puny
remote lintel
i mean
jade quartz
You're missing the fact that healing in this game is predictable and planned-out over the course of a fight
remote lintel
the shield will run out
ripe hound
I thought Shield heals is still health?
jade quartz
You shouldn't end up in a situation where you have no oGCDs left and need an instant small heal for something
ripe hound
I mean although you don't stack shields. If you are only doing a single heal, weather it's a shield or a chunk of health doesn't matter right?
remote lintel
you're not actually healing the tank that much
little swift
the cost to shield ratio for aben isn't that great either
ripe hound
Wait are there any damage that ignores shields?
remote lintel
doom?
forest inlet
If youre just doing some basic shit like dungeons and maybe some trials you just throw cards out when theyre up and thats that, they sync decently well. All astros tools are free as long as you dont spam shit for no reason. Think of it like this; on both jobs you manage your oGCD heals by thinking about their cooldowns and "if i use X here is it up for Y". on SCH you will just have the added layer of those actions also costing aetherflow @fast hull
ripe hound
Oh yeah
fast hull
u can combo essntial dignity+ noct aspected bene though
ripe hound
Doom is one
forest inlet
I dont know your background anyway, are you just leveling stuff or?
dire saffron
for stuff like dungeons youd want to prioritise bene 2 because it gets their health up fast
and you shouldnt be in noct anyway
brave ravine
all this stuff is for savage and higher
ripe hound
Yeah I am thinking about savage
jade quartz
^
dire saffron
i thought this was some dungeon tech
remote lintel
shielding a low health tank is worse than just bringing their health up
ripe hound
I'm just thinking, for a scenario where you are out of oGCD skills and the tank just got rezzed, isn't Noct Abenefic faster than Benefic II
jade quartz
Don't get into that scenario
dire saffron
if the tank is that low and youre out of ogcds you either didnt manage your tools correctly or your cohealer is sleeping
remote lintel
if i'm ever in that scenario i synastry and benefic 2
hazy shadow
Shields are effective hp
dire saffron
or both
hazy shadow
Not total
ripe hound
Oh, right, Synastry and benefic 2, that makes sense
fast hull
well the tank will be dead again soon. what emergency burst heals does astro have that is not essential dignity?
forest inlet
If youre in that situation synastry benefic 2 if they need the hp fast
remote lintel
plus lightspeed
dire saffron
lightspeed bene 2
remote lintel
if i have it
jade quartz
Basically you shouldn't be making your decision between which class is superior based on how they can recover if everything goes catastrophically wrong
the answer to a situation like that is to play better and not get into that situation
fast hull
WHM I just swift and cure 2 if benediction is down
if I have it
but that is trials when other healer swift and rez
remote lintel
if they have no ogcd im assuming
fiery glacier
does anyone in here know how to make discord bots for a fc discord chat im makeing I made a bot already but I can't get it to do any of that at world thing Or anything really
jade quartz
If you don't have bene, tetra, benison or any lilies
fast hull
ah I thought we are talking about alternatives without ogcds?
fast hull
sorry got lost in the conversation
jade quartz
then you've got bigger problems and needa plan your cooldown usage better
remote lintel
alternatively if you find yourself in a dire situation with no ogcds just accept fate
dire saffron
well, you shouldnt just lie down and take it
but in that case it doesnt matter whats more potency efficient
ripe hound
Wait the best strategy is to just wall it?
remote lintel
i know
ripe hound
I mean I guess it makes sense...
fast hull
wall it?
remote lintel
what
dire saffron
just take the L and use a healing gcd
ripe hound
I mean run into walls
fast hull
I dont know how would it help? are you taling about potd?
ripe hound
Nah, just talking about wipe it and start the next pull faster
remote lintel
if its unsalvageable....sure
dire saffron
you just have to be aware of when you use your gcds and just pick the one that has the fattest potency
forest inlet
No? Your job as a healer is to ensure the party reaches the end of the duty and you take actions that help the cause, if a pull is recoverable you eat shit and do your best on recovering it
ripe hound
ahhh
forest inlet
If its literally unrecoverable sure
jade quartz
/micon "skill name" at the bottom of the macro
ripe hound
I think my original question is, isn't Noct Abenefic's 200 potency heal + 500 potency shield the same potency as Benefic II's 700 potency heal.
hardy gazelle
thank you
ripe hound
I mean it only matters for Synastry right?
dire saffron
not even
fast hull
I mean I think I did nidhogg once, spam LB3 2x times and there was only 15 minutes left? that does count (Mp management is hard when you are rezzing almost everyone ;-; )
dire saffron
you can test it yourself
remote lintel
if your tank is low synastry + noct abenefic still isnt going to do much
ripe hound
I think I just don't understand why shields are worse than heals
forest inlet
Will the shield break? If it doesnt break you got no value
ripe hound
kk
remote lintel
because shields dont restore the targets health
your tank will still be low
ultimately
ripe hound
I mean it lasts 30 seconds so sooner or later it's gonna break right?
remote lintel
shields are for cushioning damage, not recovering from it
dire saffron
well the difference is that a 500 potency shield
isnt the same as a 500 potency heal
last tapir
does castrum give XP?
ripe hound
I still just think that a 500 potency shield now is better than a 500 potency heal 2 seconds later in an emergency situation
dire saffron
the shield will soak less damage
remote lintel
@last tapir yes but it doesnt scale with level
forest inlet
Well if they're actively tanking the boss most likely yes, you got the same value out of it if autos destroy it. Are you still in the scenario of emergency?
If its an emergency someone else is most likely tanking it assuming 2 tanks?
ripe hound
Yeah
remote lintel
the shield will still break fast
last tapir
@remote lintel so is not worth on like lvl 76
remote lintel
and your tank will die anyway
jade quartz
Then the shield isn't gonna break.
remote lintel
@last tapir its worth it on msq roulette
ripe hound
Wait is a 500 potency shield itself less hp than 500 potency heal?
jade quartz
no
last tapir
oh im talking about castrum licus litore lol
ripe hound
Assuming the shield is used completely?
remote lintel
oh
jade quartz
you're getting some odd responses lol
remote lintel
yeah it gives exp but i havent noted how much
jade quartz
no you're basically right
it's just that there's still probably not gonna be great reason to use noct abene over bene2
ripe hound
Yeah...
forest inlet
Shit, were they going to hold the boss anyway? Is there any raid damage going out before your ED comes off cd? Will they live the next instance of damage with just the ED? You should think of those situations as really situational, you rarely recover stuff with 1 clear cut plan that you always use
You could have a star going out as well maybe theyll catch that even
ripe hound
I think I just want to know if my procedure for healing a tank is wrong.
Like when tank is low and I'm Noct, I usually Abene, Synastry if avaliable, then bene2 2 2 2 spam
robust crow
your procedure needs to account for the other healer too
remote lintel
you can synastry before the abenefic
jade quartz
if you're out of oGCDs then other healer needs to pull their finger out
ripe hound
Yeah, I'm just worried my tank will do something stupid and if I don't heal him immediately he dies again
remote lintel
also you dont need to spam benefic
ripe hound
Maybe it's just because I was playing too much PF and was in bad statics...
jade quartz
Unfortunately raiding means you have to trust that your party aren't idiots and can do their necessary jobs too
ripe hound
People often die immediately after getting up... Faster than the raise immunity...
jade quartz
and then get disappointed over and over again
ripe hound
ahhh
forest inlet
Dont plan around people being stupid but be aware enough to have a response to it if it does happen
Its not your fault ppl do dumb shit
ripe hound
Yeah
robust crow
if your tank is eating too much shit then you aren't going to clear anyway
ripe hound
I think maybe I'm just thinking too hard. Trying too hard to fix problems caused by stupid.
crimson wind
Where are the recruitment channels on Balance anyway
ripe hound
You need a role
robust crow
in the end, does it really matter how you top off your tank after they fuck up if you weren't going to clear anyway
they just need to not fuck up
ripe hound
@crimson wind Go to role selection other than get roles
Yeah... I'm just too used to my old static having on average 8 deaths before reaching enrage
Hey, it's enrage!
There are extremely few stuff that can kill you during Rez Immunity right?
remote lintel
yes
median wind
If I give my squadron items to use as glamor are they just gone forever?
ripe hound
Like I think conflag on e6s is one of them
forest inlet
If you want to think of recovery youre better off coming up with a specific scenario anyway, theres a difference between lets say your tank dies to knocback mirrors on shiva vs. the offtank dying to forgetting arms length on the very first knocback on ramuh
zinc orbitBOT
median wind
How do I get items back from squadron members?
remote lintel
what do you mean get them back
ripe hound
Hmm I thought both conflags go though Rez immunity? The being swing
queen cove
both the enrage and the tornado phase
median wind
@remote lintel it's literally the thing implied by you saying no to my question
remote lintel
glamours aren't used up so i don't know what you could have lost
forest inlet
Savage rarely goes through rez immunity but conflag might be one, you see it more in ultimate i.e. if ppl die in suppression you need to get em up really fucking fast for tank purge + ultima
remote lintel
since squadrons gear themselves
ripe hound
Yeah
queen cove
Most death I see in suppression is the ifriit stack part cause someone gets clipped by landslide
actual tragedy
ripe hound
Also if not using Healer LB3 means wipe, sometimes it's even worth it to LB3 a single player right?
queen cove
I think it depends
ripe hound
Because if you need 8 person for a mechanic you might just not be able to wait
robust crow
depends on how far along the fight you are
queen cove
You're in a long animation lock if you healer lb3
queen cove
So it cases like WL2 > enrage it might be worth it?
robust crow
will this 1 player do more damage than an lb3 before the fight is over?
lb3 also means no one gets rez sickness
ripe hound
Yeah I'm thinking like for e5s F14
queen cove
nah
robust crow
which can be worth it if your top 2 dps eat shit all of a sudden
forest inlet
If theres a mechanic similar to lets say light rampant where you NEED all people up sure heal lb, read the situation
ripe hound
If you can't get them up fast enough it's dead anyway
queen cove
Everyone has to grab an orb anyways
robust crow
and they were your dps lifeline to clear
forest inlet
You can also rescue your coheal after the LB to enable them to move faster
ripe hound
Oh right
Yeah because after LB3, people get up really fast, it's just the animation lock being long
ripe hound
I should do it more
forest inlet
It can save the run sometime
ripe hound
Also usually LB3 to rez 3 person is worth it right?
forest inlet
Yee pretty much
queen cove
depends on mechanics to follow, but yeah
dreamy warren
I have a question I almost assuredly know the answer to but... once an item is placed in the glamour dresser can it be dyed or does it need to be dyed before going in?
ripe hound
I just feel that I rarely recover from 3 dead person without LB3
queen cove
it can be dyed @ cobe
dreamy warren
tyty
ripe hound
Because while raising 1 dead person, 2 more dies to other mechanics
forest inlet
You can dye it. Be aware if you dye an item that you placed on a glamour plate it only dyes it for that specific plate
robust crow
do you have to wait a few seconds
ripe hound
I think as soon as people start standing up?
When the dead people enter "get raised" animation?
forest inlet
As soon as u see ppl got up/got the tank lb status/damage went out u can rescue
i.e. tank LBing conflag if u wanna meme with that
ripe hound
Wait can you eat a Conflag with tank LB3?
forest inlet
Ppl can eat about 3 hits but its not uhhh necessarily a good strat lol
gleaming mist
it's generally a meme strat
forest inlet
Have to throw an extra heal for air bumps probably
gleaming mist
to give the other tank not lbing more uptime
forest inlet
Its the log run TankBro special
queen cove
Conflag lb3 is only worth if the boss is close enough to kill before/right after conflag resolves
yeah LOL
leaden ginkgo
is there a furniture that works like a glamour dresser?
queen cove
Nope
faint flare
You can see the crafting collectibles as receipes
ripe hound
Yeah, I was thinking about seeing the page to see what items and what score do I need for them
Do I need to go to the NPC for that?
faint flare
The timer menu was removed with the collectiblity change
ripe hound
Ouch
faint flare
So you need to go to check
faint flare
Thats one of the Stormblood extreme mounts
zinc orbitBOT
teal bone
which one drops that one
faint flare
Lakshami
faint flare
Its snake girl with Vril
magic wren
Can I join an existing party that is forming a party for certain dungeons? Or is duty finder the only option?
faint flare
You can join parties with party finder for stuff
red junco
yeah, there's still plenty of farm parties.
magic wren
But I can’t join an existing party for a certain dungeon right? Because I saw the party finder but those are specific.
faint flare
If there's a party finder up for that dungeon with a space you can join it
magic wren
Like let’s say there’s a party that needs dps. I can’t join that right? Or is that what duty finder does? Lol
faint flare
If a party is forming then you can use party finder to join it or duty finder to just have it form for you
For parties that are already inside dungeons, you turn on Join in Progress via Duty finder settings to try and get into the dungeon thats already started
magic wren
Ooooh I see.
Thank you.
On my server it says there are 46 parties recruiting what does that mean? Sorry I’m a noob
magic mortar
that’s just how many parties are recruiting in party finder
faint flare
How many parties are in party finder
With the settings you picked, which default showing all
tidal yarrow
on some parties I survive with even 20k hp on some others I get oneshotted. e8s first aoe, how so?
and im not shielded in both cases
faint flare
Gear difference, food, mitigation used
tidal yarrow
oh dang I want using food cause it was practice
faint flare
ALWAYS use food in savage
tidal yarrow
but I didn't think about how it gives
vitality
faint flare
The extra HP is very good
stable hinge
do damage buffs affect the damage dealt by dots?
tidal yarrow
you're right
stable hinge
Ty
faint flare
Using food is basically lowkey mandatory for any savage run
obsidian patio
Do note that DoTs snapshot buffs
tidal yarrow
i usually always use food
obsidian patio
So using a buff while a dot is active won’t make it do more until you refresh it
tidal yarrow
but since it was basically fresh prog I didn't, didn't think about hp buff
signal rover
Why am I not getting yokai medals from FATE's? The minion says "East Shroud", I have the minion out, and am completing FATEs in East Shroud..
faint flare
30% ish
slate arrow
only the basic medals are guarenteed
signal rover
For just the normal medals too?
slate arrow
basic medals are guarenteed if you have the watch equipped
obsidian patio
Normal medals are 100%
obsidian patio
Watch isn’t needed for the legendary medals, as an aside. Only need the correct minion out in the right zone
signal rover
Yeah, funnily enough I got a leg medal as we were talking here LOL
Got the watch equipped now though, thanks 🤦♂️
plain python
Am I supposed to use both Gauss Round AND Ricochet per Heat Blast (if available), or is it is either Gauss Round OR Ricochet per Heat Blast?
slate arrow
the latter
faint flare
Using both clips
plain python
oh thanks. I thought my ping acts up and the RIcochet's animation takes too long to execute
faint flare
Animation doesn't matter
boreal storm
Tip for yokai weapons, it’s 5 medals for your first 10 for the rest
plain python
also tips: don't bother with it until you get flying mount 😄
next steppe
maybe an odd question, but does anyone have a link to the code of conduct for FFXIV and it's community? I know there's the user agreement, but anything officially related to the code of conduct would be great!
actually I might just use Square Enix's Code of Conduct for reference, thanks anyway!
narrow arch
So how many ascians are there?
obsidian patio
In terms of the red masks, 13 in total
For the black mask ones, they’re basically minions ordered around by the red ones and ‘created’ as needed
If you mean living red mask ascians then I think ||3 or 5, depending on if the two Gaius fought are dead-dead|| (Stormblood patch MSQ spoilers)
narrow arch
Is the one in white (elidibus) or whatever the one in charge?
obsidian patio
Kinda, yeah
leaden ginkgo
Isn't this spoiler territory?
obsidian patio
Ehh, the existence of the ascians isn’t a spoiler
narrow arch
Obviously ShB spoilers ||Emet Sech is the top one ||
obsidian patio
When I talked about living ones is definitely a spoiler
leaden ginkgo
Just seems weird to ask it here and not #archived-lore-spoilers
narrow arch
Don’t want to be spoiled by the second half of ShB and onwards in there
leaden ginkgo
But the first part is okay here?
obsidian patio
As long as you make it clear about how far in the story you are people are generally civil and try to stay where you are at in the story
But understandable
leaden ginkgo
I haven't finished the story but I mean part of the mystique is who is running what and names, etc
Anyway, I have a question about custom deliveries. I'm on my third npc unlock, and the items seem scripted. Is this the case until you max out their satisfaction?
obsidian patio
Yep
obsidian patio
Correct
zinc orbitBOT
mossy heart
Im not sure how to get my chocobo, i joined the grand company and have enough seals, just dont know what to do after
tidal yarrow
how do I set the time on the side of the messages in the log chat?
like rn I see >> Yuuko misliar: Hi
id like to see [5:07]>>Yuuko Misliar: Hi
leaden ginkgo
Time stamp option in options
tidal yarrow
k or ctrl k?
leaden ginkgo
Character>Log Window
Go to Log Details and you can customize which tabs have time stamps
leaden ginkgo
How transparent the window is
tidal yarrow
so if I want to see it darker I decrease it?
leaden ginkgo
If you want it to be transparent up to 90% or not
tidal yarrow
omfg
leaden ginkgo
I haven't messed with it, but you can adjust transparency for most hud options
leaden ginkgo
I suppose a solid box would help
obsidian patio
@mossy heart do the quest “my little Chocobo” at your grand company
mossy heart
@obsidian patio I started the quest but it is red and wont let me complete it
obsidian patio
What step are you stuck on?
scarlet sandal
what time stamp on chat is a thing
mossy heart
present the issuance
obsidian patio
Buy the Chocobo issuance from the grand company quartermaster
mossy heart
I tried that, but its not there for sale, i think i might be talking to the wrong quartermaster?
mossy heart
okay ill do it now, thank you
I was talking to the wrong person, I was talking to the free company quartermaster and not the grand company one. I just have to find them now
jade quartz
They're at the same desk
Serpent Quartermaster, Flame Quartermaster or Storm Quartermaster depending on which GC you're in
leaden ginkgo
In general, anything that I can sell on MB is something I can turn in for scrips, right?
obsidian patio
For crafters no
leaden ginkgo
For gatherers I mean
obsidian patio
Yeah all of those can be traded normally if you don’t collect them
But not all unspoiled stuff can be made as collectible
leaden ginkgo
I mean if I can collect it with the perk active, and it can be sold normally on the mb, it's tradable?
leaden ginkgo
No what I meant was, as long as the base item is not MB-prohibited, I can collect it for scrips
twilit arch
afaik none of the items asked for scrips are untradeable
but the items request are a specific list
fringe whale
Is Palace of the Dead in duty finder?
jade quartz
no
twilit arch
no, you have to talk to the expedition captain in quarrymill to queue
jade quartz
you must queue by speaking to the Wood Wailer Expeditionary Captain
oblique trellis
Macro folks: what is /merror (off)? Looking at someone elses macro
twilit arch
it turns off the error text that can be caused when you try and use a skill thats on cd or before the gcd is available
oblique trellis
oh ok thx, thought it was a mirror typo 😄
jade quartz
short for macroerror
cosmic token
is there a way to use the special action or whatever its called in a macro?
/micon Aetheromatic Auger
/ac Aetheromatic Auger
doesn't seem to work
Edit: got an answer -/gaction "Duty Action I" <t>
twilit arch
i don't believe duty actions can be made into a macro
you can however put a keybind on it, in the keybind menu
obsidian hornet
I've unlocked the qitari beast tribe dailies but there wasn't an option to side with someone to change the appearance of the campsite. Does that come later on with more reputation?
little swift
you add to it with more ranks in trust with the tribe
obsidian hornet
thanks
sterile mauve
I have a pretty specific question. If I accept the quest to start getting drops for the second step of the resistance weapon on one class, can I get those drops while leveling another class in the Southern Front? Also could I then use those drops to instead get the second step done for the class I was leveling's resistance weapon?
little swift
yes