I can't afk fishing right?
#questions-and-help
karmic niche
warped nest
@trim oriole yeah
obsidian patio
correct, enles.
acoustic osprey
is there anyway to switch between your skill tab
karmic niche
Well... shit
grizzled mural
@trim oriole exidous
obsidian patio
Azure if you mean what Enles is talking about I personally don't recommend it, and instead just place more hotbars on your screen.
You'd still need to adjust your keybinds for the other hotbars anyways
grizzled mural
Hey can I get the quest list for stormblood
obsidian patio
gritty oracle
grizzled mural
Gratze
trim oriole
does it matter if i play through steam or from the website?
warped nest
Not really
You just need to know that you cannot mix match your purchases
So once you are on Steam, you cannot buy expansions from SE store,
And vice versa
lime apex
are there any problems with FF14 right now?
i'm getting 'connection to server lost' when i try to connect
warped nest
Earlier, Aether reported some connection issue
twilit python
guess, does anyone know where to find skybuilders spring water? google has no answers, not in diadem, and some sites say providence point coerthas central highlands but its not there either.
acoustic osprey
oh ok then, btw anyone else aside from me
use the mouse to click on skills in hectic fights
warped nest
Depends on what skills
obsidian patio
@twilit python the grade 1 stuff can no longer be gathered
twilit python
so i just exchange for the cloth with the scripts and cant craft it ye?
acoustic osprey
im using BM atm so sometimes i need to use the instant cast spells + sleep for example to cancel boss skills
warped nest
Skills like Limit Break or Invuln, should be the hardest to click
obsidian patio
you make the current phase stuff for scrips instead of the old stuff
warped nest
People does do that
twilit python
god its actually so crazy, there are so many players, but barely any views on youtube, barely anyone cares for twitch, the wikis are somewhat scuffed, might just go update them all myself, well thanks.
warped nest
But usually they don't do it for skills you use actively in combat
acoustic osprey
i imagine it would become way harder for stuff like ninja then
in terms of skill clicking
acoustic osprey
so they just assign hot keys to all the skill tab?
warped nest
For most skills yes
Some skills I personally recommend making them accessible by clicking only
I wish I can tell you "OK, make this click only, and this you shouldn't"
You gonna explore what works for you
simple shore
Tank stance is a good "Click only"
warped nest
And when your current setup doesn't work, just change it again
I change my setup during expansion
simple shore
Limit Break is another good "Click only"
warped nest
And spend the next 2-3 weeks adjusting
acoustic osprey
so basically skills on the low priority list should be the hardest to click
simple shore
If you're only going to use it once in a fight, and the timing of it isnt critical
warped nest
Like a tank's invulnerable skill
young fjord
Yokai is today or in 24h?
simple shore
it can live on a click
granite swan
How far away from HW am i when i just got Levi-chan quest?
simple shore
I keep Shirk macro, tank stance, LB on clicks because they're not critical and dont deserve one of my keybinds
warped nest
Around 2-3 dungeons + 4 trials, give or take
granite swan
ah ok
warped nest
For BLM, I would recommend thinking about making 7 macros for your party member teleport
What's the name of that skill again, Balmerick.
simple shore
Aetherial Manipulation
But uh
fuck making 7 macros
if you're on MKB
use a MO macro
warped nest
Fair
acoustic osprey
wdym macros
simple shore
dont use them for GCD's unless you're a true heretic like me
warped nest
We don't recommend using it for your primary combat
But they are very helpful for utility stuff
For example, Balmerick mentioned a Shirk Macro
Shirk is a tank action that allows them to divert some of their enmity to another party member
This is useful for tank swap in contents with 2 tanks
acoustic osprey
so its like a more specific keybind for certain actions
simple shore
Not exactly
warped nest
It is a list of actions prewritten
simple shore
So Shirk requires a target to tell it who to transfer that threat to.
a macro can specify that target ahead of time
so that you dont have to actually target them
warped nest
If you use it normally, the order of sequence is
- pick my tank on party list
- press shirk
acoustic osprey
esp for my BM teleport
simple shore
Yeah for Aetherial Manip i use a mouseover macro
which means that if i hover my cursor over someone, it will target them
warped nest
Balmerick, I am on phone
acoustic osprey
lel i need to figure out how to set that up later
simple shore
Example?
warped nest
Would you mind typing it out for Azure?
simple shore
Yeah one sec
Here's an example of an Aetherial Manip macro
/merror off
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/micon "Aetherial Manipulation"
its in there that many times for a reason
because macros are....kind of shit
warped nest
We duplicate the /ac to make sure that it goes off
simple shore
<mo> means "the target your mouse is currently hovering over"
simple shore
there's other tags like "<2>" (the second member of the party list), "<f>" (your Focus Target), etc.
vivid wolf
Can you keep items in your mail? just upgraded to collectors but i dont need the fantasia yet
warped nest
FT or FO?
@vivid wolf as long as you don't read the mail, it will stay there
And you can just tuck the fantasia with your chocobo or retainer
simple shore
Anyway, the thing with macros is they have an inherent disadvantage
So outside of utility skills (like Aetherial Manip or Shirk, etc.)
you shouldnt use them unless you're an absolute heretic like me and know what you're doing
warped nest
Grounded AOE is one
The short ver is, it is evil, but it can do some good if you use just a tad of it
acoustic osprey
so i don't need any specific key binds for macros
but rather its like an in build thing
simple shore
You drag them onto a hotbar
acoustic osprey
oh
simple shore
you put them in a slot like they were a skill
gritty oracle
My cursor is always in some random location so I macro all ground targeted skills (sacred, star, asylum etc).
acoustic osprey
okok that makes more sense
so why do you need multiple macros for teleport then
wouldn't 1 do fine
strong sphinx
Does anyone know when the weekly reset is in CET?
green grail
!weekly
zinc orbitBOT
Tick, Tock, Kupo!
green grail
47 mins ago
strong sphinx
Ah ok 10 am CET then
simple shore
There's no reason to do such a thing.
warped nest
Don't worry about that
acoustic osprey
i will worry about macros once my exams are over
warped nest
The most practical thing for that was for my Dragoon
With 3 copies
Targetting one of three other Dps for a Dragoon's buff ability
MO is perfect for KBM Aetherial Manipulation
(I am a mad man, I actually do Aetherial Manipulation on controller... Without macro)
acoustic osprey
that's what i do atm, i quickly click and press the teleport skill
but sometimes i ended up clicking on the boss
and eat fat damage
kind junco
So,are the only company leves available early on the lvl 20 and lvl 25 ones?
and are there any other ways to get company seals?
kind junco
well I'm lvl 52 and totally neglected the whole thing till now. Am a Flame Corporal atm
obsidian patio
they're used to exchange for the i90 job gear that you get from the level 50 job quest
limpid lantern
Can you get any armor wich the npc's have equipped for glamour purposes ?
(Aymerics specifically)
analog gate
aymeric's armor is in the cash shop
obsidian patio
Equipment that belong to specific story NPCs are generally on the mogstation
leaden ginkgo
what is the adventuring forays option on party finder ?
fallow juniper
Hello, I have some Faded Copies and when I look them up I would be able to make them at lvl 50 Alch. However they have 4 stars next to it and my Alch is close to 50 and I dont see any of these 4 star orchestrion roll recipes there, but I do see some 2 star recipes like Fire Ward Mega-Potion etc
What are those stars? How do I get the 4 stars ones to show up?
simple shore
Those require Master books to unlock
obsidian patio
@leaden ginkgo I assume it's for the Resistance Relic instanced area that's coming in 5.35?
not too sure
fallow juniper
And where would I buy these Master Books?
simple shore
Which thing are you trying to make?
fallow juniper
Faded Copies of
- Hunger
- Blind to the Dark
- Now I Know The Truth
- etc
limpid lantern
Is the cash shop costumes job specific or classified all classes ?
pine phoenix
my free trial is capped (300K) but I haven't even started heavensward yet, what should i dump my gil on?
drifting ruin
is there anyway I can restart a cutscene lol
simple shore
That will require Master Alchemist II . This can be acquired from Talan in Mor Dhona. You'll have to do a short unlock quest before he'll talk to you.
limpid lantern
@drifting ruin there is a book in the inn wich lets you replay cutscenes
simple shore
You will also need to craft an item to trade for the book
fallow juniper
Okay cool so pretty easy to obtain then
limpid lantern
I think
obsidian patio
not at all, unfortunately.
simple shore
which may be difficult for you if you're just at 50
fallow juniper
Hmm I’ll check it out and see if I up for that challenge yet 😄 thanks!
obsidian patio
the token item it wants you to make is very hard to do right at level 50 and requires good gear for that level.
fallow juniper
I’m still sitting in BIS HQ gear from back at lvl 35 when I was capped in previous trial
Guess that wont di
obsidian patio
definitely not.
To be completely honest, I don't recommend trying to do the needed craft until you have level 55+ gear to have a decent chance at it.
fallow juniper
The intro quest from Guiding Star alrdy requires me to equip a lvl 50 crafting weapon so yeah
obsidian patio
the weapon he wants you to equip is from the level 50 class quest for your crafter
fallow juniper
I’ll need to level a bit more and then craft an entire new set of higher lvl gear
Any good crafter set I can buy with GC seals or tomestones or whatnot, or is my best bet crafting HQ gear?
zinc orbitBOT
waxen scaffold
How much time commitment does ffxiv take? Are there like daily login bonuses or something, or am I fine to just play once a week?
solemn shard
When you have a dialogue box like this open, is there no way to compare the item to your currently equipped? :S
obsidian patio
The level 50 artisan set from the grand company is a nice set to use right at level 50, but you'll still likely need better gear to even try the needed recipe for the 2nd mastercraft book
fallow juniper
Thanks a lot for the helpful info, will level a bit more and look further into it, now I know what to be looking at
obsidian patio
@waxen scaffold in terms of start to the end of the current story patch, probably a bit more than a month of daily play depending on how often you can play.
as for 'daily' stuff to help with progressing there's the duty roulettes which have their experience/tomestone rewards reset on a daily timer
solemn shard
When you have a dialogue box like this open, is there no way to compare the item to your currently equipped? :S
@solemn shard Figured it out incase anyone was wondering, right click on the item and click "compare" >.<
waxen scaffold
Oh that's not too bad. The last online ff game I played was mobius, which had a lot of login bonuses and dailies to take care off and events XD. But that was mobile.
obsidian patio
the equipment is pretty meh for the most part. they're ok if your gear is lagging behind but not fantastic.
If you're not already at Sergeant Second Class, I recommend focusing all seals on promotions until you are, as that rank allows you to turn in dungeon gear for more seals.
obsidian patio
This massively increases your rate of income for seals which lets you use them on things you can sell on the marketboard for spare gil, like glamour prisms
acoustic osprey
is gil that valuable when you can obtain end game gears pretty easily
feels like gil is used just for the qol stuff and cosmetics
obsidian patio
repairing your gear using NPCs can cost a noticeable amount in the later levels
and you can always use it to buy endgame crafted gear to quickly be able to do current level cap content
left moth
repair costs is a gil sink in general although once get to end (80) gil kinda really loses its use unless you really want crafted equipment and food/pots on MB (as opposed to raid content and tome stuff for "free" equipment)
radiant brook
wheres hildibrand in the new dungeon?
obsidian patio
@radiant brook ||Around X:11.8 Y:12.5 in the Lakeland section of the dungeon||
frozen karma
where do you get the augmented job sets?
obsidian patio
!faq afgeardye
zinc orbitBOT
obsidian patio
oh, i need to update this for the heavensward section.
wintry sable
Is there a way to adjust the action indicator?
radiant brook
before or after the dungeon clear?
proven bay
How long can you wear each artifact set before it becomes outdated?
obsidian patio
they're basically your baseline set for each level cap, so you replace them pretty much right away.
hot eagle
they are mostly used for glamour, since u easy get better gear
obsidian patio
yep
proper cipher
2-3 levels generally
wintry sable
So i take it nobody knows how to adjust them? 😕
obsidian patio
not sure what you mean by the action indicator. do you mean the castbar or the tooltip?
wanton cipher
Hello, I just bough a skip potion for WHM and I did not recieve the item...
gritty oracle
Items take a while to arrive
obsidian patio
clear out your mailbox too
wintry sable
The yellow color you see on the ground before a mob or boss hit you
gritty oracle
You'll get an in-game notification when you get moogle mail, it'll be attached to the message
wanton cipher
A few hours it takes?
obsidian patio
you can't adjust those at all
wintry sable
Damn
gritty oracle
A few hours sounds about right
wintry sable
Can't see them in e8
gritty oracle
I'm fairly sure it'll arrive within the hour tho. When I bought emotes off Mogstation, I think I got them fairly soon.
wintry sable
They somehow take the floor color which is very annoying
I kept getting debuff all the fight...
gritty oracle
Ah, like the orange AoE marker?
wintry sable
Yup
gritty oracle
Idk how to do that, but there may be a setting
Or it may be an unmarked AoE?
Or marked in the same colour as the floor on purpose
wintry sable
It's marked. But i can barely see it
gritty oracle
Huh
wintry sable
I can barely see it on bright floors
gritty oracle
Try tweaking with contrast
wintry sable
Where?
gritty oracle
Accessibility iirc. Or system settings - graphics?
waxen scaffold
Installing FFxiv - Is there any important difference between north american English and europe English?
Is it just like the spelling of "color" and "colour"?
young fjord
Also default time in game
NA english give 12h clock
EU english give 24h clock
This can be changed in game whenever you want however
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
Guys do you think there's a real difference between HBAO+ Standard and Quality settings? I personally can't tell at all, dunno if my eyes are playing tricks on me... but the latter reduces my FPS by like 10 :/
shrewd owl
from what i can tell hbao quality just has... slightly darker shadows
just use standard imo
leaden ginkgo
I haven't played since 2014 and have the base version, do I need to buy shadowbringers next to play?
shrewd owl
if u want the expansions ye
wanton fossil
Is there a way of seeing all content at max level like there is in wow?
Or are raids easy to pug at some difficulty
green grail
the 24man raids only have one, casual, difficulty so everyone just queues and clears
the 8man raids have a normal/story mode and a savage mode, with savage usually having an extra "form" of the boss, and savage is the mode that requires days/weeks of prog and preferably a premade group
and ultimate raids only have an ultimate difficulty, and they're the most difficult fights in the game at 16-18 minutes with no checkpoints, mostly insta-wipe mechanics, require clearing savage to enter and take around 100-150h of prog for most of competent groups to clear
wanton fossil
So the ultimate raids aren't more difficult versions of the casual ones? They're ultimate only and you won't see em unless youre in a guild that progresses it?
green grail
yeah pretty much, it's just one longass boss fight meant purely as a challenge, with the only rewards being flashy weapons and exclusive titles
warped nest
It is the closest thing to an epic (noun)
scenic orchid
So no story involved in them?
scenic orchid
Always kind of sucks to play a story though a whole campaign and have the end of the story stuck behind a raid.
green grail
lore-wise they're basically a wandering minstrel retelling the story just hyping it up with harder mechanics etc
or some simulation machine etc
actual story is kept to the easily accessible raids
thorny otter
Why is it that Shire Gear (ilvl 270) can immediately be bought upon reaching idyllshire but the Scaevan Gear (ilevel 390) seems to be gated behind Stormblood
obsidian patio
🤷♂️
warped nest
When you reach Idyllshire, you are on lvl 59 MSQ give or take
When you reach Rhaglr, you are on lvl 61-2 ish MSQ
Iirc
shrewd owl
theres basically poetics gear for each expansion
so arr has ironworks
heavensward has shire
stormblood has scaevan
and i think crystarium will become poetics gear sometime in the future right?
warped nest
Yup
Poetic is the universal tomestone for tomestone related purchases on older expansions
thorny otter
Cause i bought Shire before completing Heavensward so thought Scaevan would be the same
warped nest
If it is any consolation
In Shadowbringers
You cannot buy tomestone gear in Eulmore
Until you finish the MSQ titled Shadowbringers
frosty pivot
Good day guys. I'm trying to do the new trial on Extreme and wondering if there is a group of people who would help me step by step as you know, I have no idea what is going on. Everyone throws these weird macros around and confuses the heck outta me. Thanks
warped nest
Make or join a learning party
Watch video guide (but don't stick by their strat fully)
obsidian patio
can also watch video guides of the fight
warped nest
Don't be shy to ask questions during
frosty pivot
Thanks guys
warped nest
Good luck, and have fun
You are free to copy those macros here
I bet someone else here can tell you what they mean
Probably
obsidian patio
#endgame-lounge is also good for asking advice in for the new duties
magic light
how do i censor a thot
analog gate
new extreme is kinda hard ngl
warped nest
That too
obsidian patio
You can't, inane.
frosty pivot
Heard it's the only way to get good gear
obsidian patio
nah
Lots of ways to get gear
and the new trial is only a i495 weapon in terms of equipment
you can work towards the Allegory/Crystarium weapon
analog gate
ShB relic is already i485 i believe
frosty pivot
Oh. Then how do I get good gear then? Rocking the Neo Ishgardian set right now
obsidian patio
you can augment it with phantasmagoria in eulmore
that upgrades it to i490
after that your next upgrades would be the augmented Allegory gear
frosty pivot
And the only way to get relics is if I do the awful Eureka?
obsidian patio
Shadowbringers relic is currently only one step which is a story instance that gives you the first weapon for completely free.
with weapons for other jobs being 1,000 poetics.
analog gate
ShB relic requires you to do the ivalice raids (stormblood's 24-man) and start a quest in kugane
frosty pivot
Oh those. Yeah I've been queueing for Orbone for a long time. No one joins so I gave up. Ugh. Thanks for all the help guys
agile laurel
orbonne is in roulette
so people will join
you might just have to tolerate an old-alliance-raid 20min queue
analog gate
try going on weekends, should be easier
outer plank
@frosty pivot they join, it just takes awhile.
i waited an hour+ for mine to pop
and that was pre reset
since so many people get up to do reset
nows your chance, or later in the afternoon
you just probably have to wait 20-30 minutes
otherwise, you might as well get it out the way, the steps to getting the relic weapon is practically handed to you
after doing the quest chain
zinc orbitBOT
outer plank
485 for free, and then having every class being able to get for like 1000 poetics alts a breeze to gear.
frosty pivot
Where do I get the relics after the raid?
agile laurel
quest starts from the guy in the kugane markets whose name probably isn't Kaiten but sounds like it
frosty pivot
Thanks again guys
gritty oracle
Which WVR neo ish recipe is the easiest if I want to gather my own mats?
simple pine
how do i get more gear to show up for scrip exchange?
leaden ginkgo
Hai! I'm in the currency exchange in idyllshire i was buying new gear for my classes and i noticed that all the items say advanced melding forbidden? What does that mean?
jolly sorrel
https://i.imgur.com/pPOMJ8e.png
I'm trying to find fishing bait, anyone a clue?
Ahaha, same question as wilco apparently
Advanced Melding Forbidden means you can't "overmeld". You can only use the slots available for materia
leaden ginkgo
Uhh so for example i can "overmeld" this gear?
silent talon
Can pls someone help me do the chrysalis duty pls 😊
lyric bear
how can i add a friend? i'm typing his name, last name, we are online, no matter what i do it doesn't let me add him.
jolly sorrel
Yes. You're allowed to meld up to 5 materia onto that gear, with an increasingly larger chance of it "failing" and losing the materia you're trying to meld
slate arrow
@jolly sorrel fairly sure you have to go to the actual vendors in order to find bait
leaden ginkgo
@jolly sorrel Check the market area near the Aetheryte, there should be a Fieldcraft merchant or something, he sells 4 different kinds of bait in Limsa
proud willow
@lyric bear If he's on another server, try doing a World Visit to go to him and then search again
hot eagle
how can i add a friend? i'm typing his name, last name, we are online, no matter what i do it doesn't let me add him.
@lyric bear are u on the same world? iirc to add someone u need to be on the same world
vale jacinth
My friend sent a me Recruit-a-Friend code, but I don't know how to activate it. Does it work on trial accounts? I do plan on registering a full 30-day sub, etc.
jolly sorrel
I ran to Rowena's Scrip Exchange and found the bait I needed. Weird that they're not on the splendors vendor
plain python
um need some help
gritty oracle
@vale jacinth You need to have purchased the game already.
vale jacinth
Oh okay I see.
analog gate
My friend sent a me Recruit-a-Friend code, but I don't know how to activate it. Does it work on trial accounts? I do plan on registering a full 30-day sub, etc.
@vale jacinth you need to buy the game first and enter it in the lodestone before your first subscription payment
plain python
I order the complete edition, but I struggle to write phone number for confirmation code, lol
leaden ginkgo
Should i ask a friend to "overmeld" the gear or should i use this one that i bought earlier but advanced melding is forbidden?
gritty oracle
@jolly sorrel Splendors vendor only sells stuff buyable with special currency, not scrips
leaden ginkgo
the gear item lvl that i have 255 this gear item lvl is 270
analog gate
those can't be overmelded
slate arrow
Poetics gear will be better 95% of the time
gritty oracle
Don't meld non endgame gear
slate arrow
And you can't overmeld not-crafted gear
leaden ginkgo
the gear im using was crafted
slate arrow
use Poetics gear then
jolly sorrel
Scrips aren't special currency? D: that's good to know, though weird..
slate arrow
Outside of very small and niche situations Poetics gear will always be better due to higher stats
leaden ginkgo
slate arrow
In almost all cases it's main stat > sub stats > item level
leaden ginkgo
So i should use this set then
leaden ginkgo
okay thanks
vale jacinth
Sorry, another question, the 50% discount listed on the game launcher and FFXIV website doesn't seem to be active on the Mog Station upgrade system. Any ideas?
slate arrow
Might've just ended and the launcher is behind
vale jacinth
It doesn't end until next week.
wintry chasm
It doesn't have the stats that it should have for that ilvl
slate arrow
Oh Mogstation
leaden ginkgo
I didn't bought, my friend crafted for me i got the materials and he crafted it
wintry chasm
Still Sachiko
vale jacinth
:/ then why is the SE store redirecting me to the Mog Station upgrade?
slate arrow
Not HQ = 10-20% penalty
wintry chasm
You want the collector's upgrade?
slate arrow
In stats across the board
plain python
nvm, it sent me a weird spam-like message that makes no sense, but the verification code was there, lol
vale jacinth
Whatever is base game+dlc
leaden ginkgo
the gear that i was using is HQ
junior oriole
is it normal for game to download slower than what my usual download speeds are
slate arrow
They both start with C and I just woke up
vale jacinth
I think I may have figured it out? I'm still clicking around.
slate arrow
You cannot buy the game directly on Mogstation
wintry chasm
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by redirecting you to mogstation so if you could screenshot the store page that might help
slate arrow
You just buy it from the SE store or a valid third party vendor like Amazon or Humble Bundle
vale jacinth
Originally I clicked the link from the game launcher, which has another link redirecting me to Mog Station to upgrade. But on the SE store-site itself it has the discount. lol
wintry chasm
Only SE store has the discount though
Originally I clicked the link from the game launcher, which has another link redirecting me to Mog Station to upgrade.
There are two deals right now. Digital collector's upgrade and the actual game discount
I think you mistook the former as the latter
The digital collector's upgrade is done from mogstation
slate arrow
Also the general FFXIV online store discount for cosmetic items
slate arrow
Collectors complete or just complete
wintry chasm
🤔 I can't say anything without looking at the screens but I doubt
leaden ginkgo
.....
vale jacinth
The client's game-launcher ended up directing me to the Mog Station.
leaden ginkgo
This game is way more confusing than I thought
slate arrow
What happens if you try to complete your purchase on Mogstation?
It should direct you to the SE store
slate arrow
Otherwise I am concern because the Mogstation system has been defunct for a few years now
Should have been defunct anyways
leaden ginkgo
Openers....GCD....Strategem?
wintry chasm
Yes
slate arrow
left moth
(not sure if question or comment)
wintry chasm
Opener is simple, it's basically the order of buttons you use to start a fight, GCDs are global cooldowns, you know when you press one skill and 10 others go on the same cooldown? That is the GCD. skills that are off the global cooldown (OGCD) can be used without making a billion others go on cooldown. Strategem is a Scholar move
leaden ginkgo
So some skills in this game share cooldowns?
wintry chasm
Yes
Maybe you shouldn't be reading ahead because it feels like you haven't really played yet
leaden ginkgo
I haven't
left moth
The goal of a good opening set is to sync up buffs with the rest of the party in order to have the most benefit dps wise. most weaponskills run on the global cooldown
leaden ginkgo
I just like to research before I played a game
wintry chasm
Listen I'm just saying it's going to make everything sound more scary without being able to get the controls itself
left moth
^
controls > basic terms > combos > > mechanics (hall of novice) > playing with strangers > etc
chain Strategem is much later in the game than starting fresh and don't need to worry about it
leaden ginkgo
I assume the Hall of Novice is some form of in game tutorial?
wintry chasm
Yeahhhhhh?
left moth
yes, beyond a lot of the slow paced hand holding that is the start of the game
leaden ginkgo
Wuts this materia for?
left moth
(ex: kill 5 sheep)
wintry chasm
It gives you an XP boosting item and good gear for your level. It's a simple tutorial, maybe not as in-depth as it should be and it's optional so you can miss it
left moth
ice materia used to be for elemental resistance but it's not used anymore
wintry chasm
^
agile laurel
Hall of the Novice assumes you haven't played an MMO
wintry chasm
They removed element resistance so it does nothing now
left moth
(it never was good at defense even when it was used)
agile laurel
if you're familiar with MMO role-trinity conventions then it'll likely be of no use
however you do get some useful gear from it, so worth doing
bitter plaza
it helps you develop a "feel" for the game
leaden ginkgo
So im guessing all the other ones increase Mind, intelliegnce etc..? Im just guessing cause of the names
pine kestrel
Is the celestial kimono remnant always just randomly given from the chest? I've seen it drop twice without someone needing to roll for it.
agile laurel
@pine kestrel damn good question and I've seen this myself, I suppose it can be a random personal drop too?
pine kestrel
I haven't seen it as a rolled item so that is why I ask, even back in stormblood days
left moth
yes, main stat materia isn't a thing either (was used to augment normal quality equipment in case failed to craft high quality but wanted to still use it to progress to better equipment)
leaden ginkgo
Soo, the game takes you step by step with learning skill chains and stuff in the beginning?
slate arrow
@leaden ginkgo those are no longer meldable onto gear
old crypt
does anyone know if continuing in PoTD pass the tenth floor without exiting will still save progress to the tenth floor?
wintry chasm
It has active help menus when you unlock something new that you haven't seen before yes @leaden ginkgo
slate arrow
@old crypt you'll have to continue based on your last save
Potd only saves every 10 floors
old crypt
when is the saving triggered?
wintry chasm
Clearing a set
leaden ginkgo
@wintry chasm I see. I think I should start off with a class like a tank or something instead of a Archer.
old crypt
when I leave PoTD or when I killed the boss
wintry chasm
Why Neet?
left moth
djkoto: I'm pretty sure it drops only after being rolled on
pine kestrel
@left moth I saw it drop twice yesterday and given to someone as soon as the chedt was opened.
open coral
@leaden ginkgo Materia will always do exactly what they say on the tin, but they're mostly an endgame mechanic. While you can meld materia on lower level gear, typically it won't make a huge difference until you get to max level and start worrying about stat caps and such, at which point you'll be using VII and VIII materia rather than the lower ranked ones.
wintry chasm
when I leave PoTD or when I killed the boss
Okay actually that's a good question. I assume it's after you leave the boss room at the end
left moth
Fictitious_Strand_of_Hair: if you leave before killing the boss it'll reset to the last completed 10x floor (it doesn't simply save prog at floor 45, say)
agile laurel
yeah I can back djkoto on this
leaden ginkgo
@wintry chasm a Paladin would be more beginner friendly than a bard, wouldn't it?
agile laurel
I have seen it
left moth
after boss kill you can shamelessly leave and it'll treat it the same as having used the exit. progress is saved on boss kill since that's the condition to progress
wintry chasm
Pretty sure we said this before but the game eases you nicely into any class @leaden ginkgo
open coral
Yeah, all classes are pretty beginner friendly
slate arrow
If you can type on a keyboard, you can play virtually any job
open coral
Except Conjurer, because they're the only healing class available from level 1.
wintry chasm
?
open coral
Would not advise starting as CNJ if you haven't healed in an MMO before.
wintry chasm
??
left moth
?
slate arrow
wintry chasm
What?
leaden ginkgo
Guess I'll just wait to get the game then
slate arrow
I mean
wintry chasm
Cnj is the most basic healer in the game
slate arrow
You can play for free up to level 60
wintry chasm
^
leaden ginkgo
@slate arrow nice
wintry chasm
Unlimited time
leaden ginkgo
What is the recruiter code thing though?
wintry chasm
Recruit a friend
leaden ginkgo
I saw it the pinned messages
leaden ginkgo
Okay
wintry chasm
Yeah you can't use it now but basically if someone recruits you into the game you and then get cool rewards
The recruiter gets the better stuff but still
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
If I keep out leveling the MSQ at some point will I get to max level while still having MSQs to do?
leaden ginkgo
I'm like 14 levels above my current msq
open coral
What MSQ level are you at?
leaden ginkgo
Teleporting around and watching cutscenes all the time it gets boring
Lvl 44, my MSQ is lvl 31
open coral
Oh, that's pretty normal, actually
I've been leveling a new character to figure out the pacing of the redone ARR MSQ, and I didn't hit my first level wall - using only basic xp buffs and no roulettes - until level 48.
I wasn't quite as far ahead as you are in levels, but you'll catch up pretty quickly to the MSQ level because there are only one or two quests per MSQ level once you get to MSQ 47-ish.
slate arrow
You'll hit a soft wall at level 47 or so, so you'll need to go and unlock aurum vale for a run or two for experience
leaden ginkgo
Oh nice. I actually wanted to do the leves and guildhests instead of traveling all the time
They feel useless for now
winged solar
how can someone have better discord gametracker, like for example @ornate mango does??
open coral
Leves and guildhests are generally pretty poor xp after level 15 or so.
leaden ginkgo
I purchased the complete edition from the Square Enix store as its half off. will I be able to continue my free trial and activate the registration key and keep my character.
open coral
Yes
green grail
it's a modded/unofficial launcher @winged solar
leaden ginkgo
dont wanna waste the gametime yknow
open coral
You can keep the free trial until the moment you enter the registration key
Once you enter the registration key, you'll be on the paid version.
slate arrow
That's normal
leaden ginkgo
But doing leves, guildhests and FATES are good exp right?
open coral
No
slate arrow
Steam has sales less often than SE
open coral
They're not
leaden ginkgo
Also, is there like an option to catch up. all my friends are lvl 60-70.
slate arrow
no
leaden ginkgo
and the beginning of the game is such a slog
open coral
Leves/guildhests are pretty worthless once you hit level 15. They give pretty shit xp.
FATES, as Industrial noted, vary widely, with the ShB ones being the best scaling xp. ARR ones are pretty useless except for farming GC seals.
leaden ginkgo
So the only reason you do them are for the seals?
Blue Mage looks cool asf. I've set a goal for myself.
wanna play that when I hit 50
open coral
Yeah, pretty much.
proper cipher
Generally do Fates while waiting for dungeon queues
slate arrow
I don't even do ARR fates since running a dungeon unsync and turning in the chest gear is better returns seals for time
open coral
FATEs are just something extra to do.
leaden ginkgo
How about dungeons? I really like to heal
open coral
Dungeons are good.
slate arrow
Dungeons are your best source of EXP
leaden ginkgo
One last thing. Is it best to just focus on the main story quests when first starting?
proper cipher
Yes
open coral
For leveling purposes, your highest level leveling dungeon gives the best xp.
slate arrow
Assuming you're doing the leveling ones closest to your level
open coral
But you'll still have to go through the MSQ, regardless.
slate arrow
@leaden ginkgo it's required so yes
open coral
Just keep that in mind.
rancid vine
suppp guys
proper cipher
Majority of stuff in this game is locked behind MSQ progress
leaden ginkgo
Okay so I looked in the store and there is an option to be brought up to Shadowbringers.
slate arrow
wouldn't recommend it
leaden ginkgo
I imagine it's rather pointless though as I'd still have to go back and do a lot of the stuff that I passed over
slate arrow
You don't even get level skipped so
open coral
@leaden ginkgo Yes, you can purchase a story skip and a level skip, but if you haven't played through the MSQ through the end of SB, we don't typically recommend that course.
green grail
https://github.com/goatcorp/FFXIVQuickLauncher first result on google @winged solar
slate arrow
You'd still have to grind up to level 70
leaden ginkgo
then whats the point
slate arrow
For alternate characters, mainly
wispy parcel
Story based game you really shouldnt get the skip if your new
leaden ginkgo
ah
rancid vine
anyone upgrade from a free trial recently? need some help clarifying
leaden ginkgo
also.
WHY IS THIS LAUNCHER SO SLOW.
my steam downloads are fast, battle.net, chrome browser fast.
whats the deal
wispy parcel
There is a specific patch that the game has to download that is agonizingly long
rancid vine
can i purchase the full game from mog store than register its code to upgrade my trial account?
wispy parcel
I forgot which one it was but yea for some reason its slow as hell
open coral
Provided you've been playing the PC and not the Steam version, yes @rancid vine
slate arrow
no, because you still have to download it from the servers
and the download servers have always been like this
mental verge
hey guys anyone know if the free trial gil limit was increased ?
open coral
It was not
mental verge
ah damn...
open coral
You should do your homework before playing games anyways @leaden ginkgo 
slate arrow
I think the only time you can get a faster download is to download the game during maintenance
leaden ginkgo
wait what
why would the game being on maintenance effect the download servers
they shouldnt be the same servers
slate arrow
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This is also ffxiv we're talking about
which uses a version of the ff13 engine
It's to be expected
open coral
The answer is "Reasons"
slate arrow
2.0 it's uses a lightweight version of the ff15 engine highly stripped down for MMO purposes
which in itself is based in ff13 iirc
rancid vine
@open coral u know if i upgrade via mog it will cost me aside 59.90. but if i purchase via store it will cost 29.90. so weird.
leaden ginkgo
my 1 friend is dark knight and the other is dragoon
slate arrow
anyways, that's tech talk I need to do research on later
leaden ginkgo
do classes really matter in terms of coordination
open coral
Seriously though, there are just some things that we (the players) choose not to question anymore because there's no logical reason for them.
slate arrow
@leaden ginkgo for queues, not really
slate arrow
Basically, do your role job
open coral
SMN is a fine job.
slate arrow
In this case it's slapping the adds before the adds slap you dead
hot crane
every class is dps class
open coral
BLU is a side game, it can't go into regular content.
simple pine
blue mage is not a real job
leaden ginkgo
Are chocobos the only only mounts that can fight?
open coral
Yes
leaden ginkgo
But can I use other mounts while using the chocobo?
open coral
And it's technically not a "mount" when it's fighting.
leaden ginkgo
Is there anything you guys would recommend purchasing from the store for a new player.
simple pine
no
hot crane
@leaden ginkgo i wanna say msq skip tho
median locust
Don't skip MSQ
open coral
For a new player? The motorcycle SDS Fenrir if you don't want to be restricted by movement speed before you unlock 1 star movement in each zone.
slate arrow
If you really want to buy something now buy the cloud bike
leaden ginkgo
yeah thats the kinda stuff I meant
simple pine
msq skip is a massive waste if hes playing with friends, hes gonna twiddle his thumbs while his friends catch up?
median locust
The story is half the game. Unless you don't wanna play half the game, don't skip story
wispy parcel
I say this XIV is a JRPG first an MMO second
leaden ginkgo
I personally just skip the cutscenes
hot crane
jk, I just hate fetch quest.
wispy parcel
Story is a huge part of the game
open coral
Unless your friends are planning to party with you while you do the low level MSQ and one of them has the car.
In which case the motorcycle doesn't matter.
leaden ginkgo
I was just gonna play it like MHW or PSO2 where I catch up to endgame relatively quick and then have hundreds of hours to go play l and level up how I see fit.
open coral
Yeahhhh, that's... not exactly how this game works.
hot crane
I meqan
wispy parcel
This is a theme park MMO so youre pretty rail roaded to the games pace
Reaching endgame take months
hot crane
you can buy msq skip and do the story quest again while ur free
there is such feature actually
slate arrow
Last time I checked, final fantasy games don't have a gear treadmill like pso or monster hunter
hot crane
it depends on you
wispy parcel
Still cant NG+ ARR
leaden ginkgo
thats what I enjoy about both.
open coral
We say it a lot because it's true, but this is really an RPG first and an MMO second.
hot crane
HW and SHB story is good tho.
slate arrow
There's no such thing as "building" in this gear
open coral
That's what we have
hot crane
the problem is how much time your willing to spend on fetch quests.
wispy parcel
But for HW and ShB plot to make sense you need ARR
open coral
!faq balance
zinc orbitBOT
open coral
That for
slate arrow
There's generally only one right way to play each job optimally
hot crane
if you wanna level up quick
wispy parcel
ARR while dull, is the bases for everything in the game
hot crane
another option is playing support class
wispy parcel
There is a gear grind
slate arrow
The gear treadmill is very small and is only relevant to the current raid tier
open coral
There's a grind, but there's limits.
slate arrow
Also, weekly capped
leaden ginkgo
oh..
slate arrow
You can get to the MINIMUM item level to raid relatively quickly
hot crane
like, warrior and white mage are good starting classes
wispy parcel
450 endgame currency per week, and savage raids is only 1 drop per week
leaden ginkgo
whys that
slate arrow
crafted gear
leaden ginkgo
thats actually pretty wake they limit what u can get in a week ;/
hot crane
it really sucks I know but
open coral
The game is designed with anti-poopsocking
leaden ginkgo
wack
hot crane
it's better now
slate arrow
because they don't want people to blitz through the game in a few hours
You're paying for the story, the endgame is a nice bonus dish
hot crane
you have no idea how terrible it is to do savage run with 480 item
wispy parcel
There isnt really much in terms of endgame raiding
open coral
YoshiP has actually said that he WANTS people to feel like they can take a break from the game without being punished for it.
hot crane
now the bottom is 490
wispy parcel
So they limit how much people can do per week
hot crane
you can get them easily
leaden ginkgo
sounds like the exact opposite of my last time sink MHW. where the story was only 3 percent of ur average playtime.
ur saying its all story and the end game raiding is just extra
slate arrow
yes
slate arrow
this is an MMO
wispy parcel
To put it in perspective, per expansion there is 12 savage raids (released in 4 every 3-4 months) and 2 ultimate raids
slate arrow
It's a final fantasy mmo
leaden ginkgo
Vamp uninstall now
wispy parcel
Thats it for 2 years
leaden ginkgo
2 late I already clicked activate registration key.
cannot refund
owo
oh no
Bruh
leaden ginkgo
They already have your moni
hot crane
it's mmo but with a whole FF classis story
leaden ginkgo
i sleep
wispy parcel
You can but food is really recommended
hot crane
which is why you pay a lot for that part
slate arrow
@ionic hazel I mean the hard part for pugs currently is execution
I'm gonna lose my mind to light rampant again
leaden ginkgo
1more thing
ionic hazel
u survived not using food in e5-6
leaden ginkgo
can I be Vivi
ionic hazel
xD
leaden ginkgo
At least it's not a huge catch up threadmill like WoW
open coral
You can be a Black Mage.
wispy parcel
You can be a lalafell in a black mage oitfit
leaden ginkgo
no not just a blackm mage
wispy parcel
Thats as close to Vivi as you can get
slate arrow
there's a set of clothes which looks like vivi which can only be worn by black mages
open coral
And the level 50 class gear for BLM is the classic BLM outfit
leaden ginkgo
Pitbull?
open coral
So... yeah? Technically?
leaden ginkgo
guess I need to look up lore n sht 2 now
open coral
Just be a Lalafel
leaden ginkgo
black mages blue mages red mages white mages
magemagemage
I've seen a guy dressed like cloud
wispy parcel
Blue Mages are cool but they are a meme job in this game
wispy parcel
Just a mini game
leaden ginkgo
TF DOES THAT MEAN
so its a class
but not a class
a mini game within the game
What job is the best healer?
median locust
Not really
slate arrow
!faq backupmeta
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
Yeah but what's the best one
median locust
They're a class that has a lower level cap than other jobs but learn spells from seeing mobs cast them
wispy parcel
There really isnt a best one
candid raptor
there's achievements and mount rewards associated with clearing older content as a full BLU group
open coral
BLM = glass cannon mage - stand and turret cast for big explodes
BLU = lolmage - learns specific spells from monsters, but can't do normal content, capped at level 60 currently
RDM = flippy mage - mostly stands out and casts, but sometimes jumps in to melee combo before flipping out again
WHM = healer mage - big heals and BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD LILY
wispy parcel
All jobs are on equal terms in XIV
median locust
There's special achievements for clearing old endgame raids with only blue mages in your group
wispy parcel
Theres no meta
leaden ginkgo
Sure Kappa
simple pine
there is definitely a meta
leaden ginkgo
I'm kinda disappointed theres no gear grind. I put over 1k hours in PSO2,MHW and Diablo.
gear grind fun
median locust
There is a meta but the game is so balanced that only the top 0.1% really has to care
leaden ginkgo
;-;
open coral
!faq balance
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
makes everything all the more satisfying
median locust
Seriously, any job can clear any content
leaden ginkgo
I wanna be a neckbeard tho
open coral
@leaden ginkgo Join that discord - that's where a lot of the meta conversation happens.
ionic hazel
median locust
The best job for you is the job you're best at
Because skill matters more than the job you pick
leaden ginkgo
okk
ionic hazel
i suck at everything i should uninstall tbh
simple pine
i understand people love this game, but i feel like that makes people default say there is no meta, don't skip the msq and other stuff that is subjective as if its fact
leaden ginkgo
I've never played a single FF game.
simple pine
x dps class played perfectly will outdps y class played perfectly, and that is a fact
leaden ginkgo
how lost in the plot will I be
simple pine
if it matters or not is subjective
wispy parcel
No FF game connects
open coral
... there isn't a meta, and you shouldn't skip the MSQ
wispy parcel
You'll just miss references
leaden ginkgo
this stuff all sucks to hear.
ionic hazel
wilco isnt that what skill means?
leaden ginkgo
no intense gear grinding
no set meta
mainly story
very little raids
Zzzz
I sleep
wispy parcel
XIV is a very casual MMO
simple shore
"very little raids"
ionic hazel
if two pros have different jobs and have pinpoint accuracy in everything and played 2 differnt jobs ofc ones gonna be better
but people arnt robots
so theyre all equal
leaden ginkgo
yeah based on what I've heard
ionic hazel
leaden ginkgo
very little.
simple shore
Literally Ultimate is harder than any raid in WoW.
leaden ginkgo
if the story is 70 percent of the game
median locust
Those are recommendations not orders anyway. You can skip story if you want but I wouldn't tell a new player to skip the story ever unless they really don't like it.
ionic hazel
because no raid in wow lasts for fucking 13 minutes
candid raptor
fight*
open coral
@ionic hazel Mythic N'zoth is a 15 minute fight.
median locust
thought I saw a WoW video with the longest raids and some were 20+ min
ionic hazel
and nzoth was added when?
leaden ginkgo
does FF14 have Extreme Behemoth
median locust
No
open coral
N'zoth is the end boss for the current expansion 😄
wispy parcel
@simple shore true, but theres only 2 per expansion.
simple shore
No
ionic hazel
the only reason nzoth lasts that long is because of stat squish
simple shore
Not really
median locust
There's no "dedicated" behemoth fight
candid raptor
there's the fate 😛
median locust
Like raid or whatever
leaden ginkgo
tfw capcom MHW has behemoth
open coral
Behemoth is one of the bosses in the Crystal Tower (level 50) 24 man raid.
twilit arch
guys
twilit arch
please keep off topic stuff to #video-games-general
wispy parcel
Behemoth is a world boss
leaden ginkgo
or what about Train
warped nest
No Hellhouse
leaden ginkgo
hell house n train in ff14 or
open coral
Yes Train
warped nest
Yes for Train
open coral
Deltascape 1.0
wispy parcel
FF6 train is in the game yes
leaden ginkgo
lamee I feel like Hell House woulda been cool as hell in a MMO game.
warped nest
Train is O5
ionic hazel
yes
open coral
They can be, yeah
leaden ginkgo
whats the meta bois.
warped nest
Just to clarify
leaden ginkgo
for classes
candid raptor
they're great
warped nest
What's Profession?
candid raptor
for meta just go to the balance discord
median locust
Crafters don't make BiS gear but they make food and pots
twilit arch
its pretty strongly recommended to level them all together
warped nest
For yourself personally, they are optional
candid raptor
?
leaden ginkgo
one more question how social is the game.
candid raptor
depends on your playstyle
warped nest
But What Kael said is accurate
ionic hazel
this discord is already proving
warped nest
If you were to do crafting
ionic hazel
how social it is
warped nest
The recommendation is doing them all
leaden ginkgo
It's not though.
twilit arch
since gatherers feed materials into crafters, and crafeters will use materials from each other. it'll also help cut down on inventory space since they share gear
candid raptor
@leaden ginkgo ?
ionic hazel
if u think were talkative here wait till u meet people ingame
leaden ginkgo
in game chat and interactions are completely diff.
warped nest
This is a Final Fantasy RPG game first, before it is a MMO RPG
leaden ginkgo
By professions I meant crafting
warped nest
Keep that in mind
simple pine
the gameplay early on is very non social
open coral
In-game, social is largely restricted to FCs (guilds) and LS (social groups).
median locust
Ingame it'll feel lonely until you find an FC (guild) or friends. There is no real global chat channel everyone can access
leaden ginkgo
hopefully its not like wow where the only talkative ones are sweats arranging some endgame raid
open coral
But if you ask something in /shout chat or the Novice Network, you'll almost always get a good answer.
candid raptor
I mean, you're playing an mmo
leaden ginkgo
no way really
candid raptor
the vast majority of interactions WILL be raid planning and erp
leaden ginkgo
i thought it was an action rpg
candid raptor
it can actually be pretty lonely early on
median locust
"is a massively multiplayer online game social"
leaden ginkgo
yes because other mmos are social.
median locust
I think "I mean it's an mmo" is a valid answer to that lol
open coral
@leaden ginkgo Basically, the game is as social as you make an effort to make it. You mentioned you have friends who play, I think? That will make it more socially accessible early on for you.
leaden ginkgo
so ur saying the secret discord tech is to create a female bunny girl healer.
wispy parcel
And no this isnt an action based combat system
leaden ginkgo
and changing my writting mannerisms
wispy parcel
Its hotkey based
open coral
Bunny girls can only be female 😄
warped nest
@ionic hazel dungeons
leaden ginkgo
nah nah
leaden ginkgo
dont be sexist chief
median locust
Tons of guys play female characters so people won't assume you're a girl just for playing a girl, just gonna say lol
warped nest
Either trust or queue normally
leaden ginkgo
bunnybois have rights 2
open coral
No, I'm actually serious. Viera are female only.
proper cipher
Bunny boys don’t exist
wispy parcel
@ionic hazel hunting log and Fae tribe quests
median locust
What doesn't exist can't have rights
warped nest
Please go to #general-discussion
leaden ginkgo
smh
warped nest
If you aren't here to ask or answer questions
candid raptor
yeah this is hardly questions material
warped nest
The hunt bill from Crystarium, Fae beast tribe, and Fate are good supplementary exp
open coral
Because that's where the meta discussion happens.
slate arrow
!faq backupmeta
zinc orbitBOT
warped nest
Do them when you are waiting for dungeon
leaden ginkgo
why an entire server.
open coral
Because it needed one