Its completely possible it came back though. I'd have to turn off my VPN to check.
#questions-and-help
simple shore
inland kayak
so I just saw my character is somehow lvl 60
its a bard
also made it to lvl 45 fishing somehow
is bard a good class? should I keep playing it?
simple shore
All classes are good. FF14 doesnt have dumb balance issues like WoW generally. Its a question of whether or not you like it.
inland kayak
yeah I usually like ranged classes
simple shore
Well, if you prefer ranged physical, it basically comes down to this between the three : How much support do you want to provide vs. personal DPS, and how much RNG is acceptable for you
MCH : Least RNG, no support
BRD : Mid RNG, some support
DNC : High RNG, lots of support
inland kayak
and by rng what do you mean ?
simple shore
RNG is colloquial. "Random Number Generator" technically is what it means, but realistically its used to mean "random procs, random events, etc."
So like for BRD, there's RNG in whether or not your DoT's trigger your abilities to be usable / reset their CD's
For DNC they have heavy RNG because each of their abilities has a 50% chance to proc a second ability being usable.
MCH on the other hand, has basically no RNG and its rotation is very static
umbral moat
Will the current rewards be part of the next moogle event?
simple shore
Unlikely.
umbral moat
Thank you
inland kayak
I see, so basically theres a chance I might not be able to use some abilities
simple shore
I mean across an entire fight you'll certainly get procs unless you're just....amazingly unlucky
little swift
as you get higher in level bard gets tools to force procs to happen as well
!trait enhanced empyreal arrow
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simple shore
But from rotation to rotation it will play out differently
simple shore
So if you like reacting to whats going on and a more dynamic playstyle, BRD or DNC are good for you. If you dont like having to keep track of as much stuff, MCH might be more preferable.
inland kayak
hmm I see, sounds like a I have a lot of remembering to do
nah yeah this sounds fine, a Little challenge is good
also with the upcoming changes I read free players will be able to try up to lvl 60, will they be able to have friends now and join factories(If i remember this is the name for guilds)
white ether
How many quest are there between heavensward and stormblood
whole wasp
if you mean between the end of heavensward to the start of stormblood, about 50-ish
mostly deals with the repercussions within the state of ishgard as well as the end of the dragonsong war
halcyon glen
That said, every single one is important for story
white ether
Yeah I’m not going to skip them lol thanks
tulip skiff
Why can’t I put my eureka weapon into my glamour dresser?
remote lintel
you can only put replica relic weapons into the dresser iirc @tulip skiff
tulip skiff
So I can’t put it in there until it’s max build?
tulip skiff
where do I get that?
shrewd lintel
How long roughly will it take to go through level60-80 msq? If I don’t skip the cutscenes
glad comet
from personal experience
remote lintel
less than a month
glad comet
1 - 2 weeks straight if you're a degenerate like me who only plays games during the holidays
shrewd lintel
Nice
glad comet
👍
halcyon glen
it took me roughly 3 weeks but i also did alexander/4 lords/most of omega/ivalice/part of mhach
glad comet
Ah... I didn't do those until after I caught up
shrewd lintel
I’m a returnee so I’ve forgotten most part of the dungeons, etc
I could only recall the msq
😅
leaden ginkgo
if u buy an account wide mount, will future characters get it or just existing ones at time of purchase?
simple shore
Future will have it in mail as soon as created
alpine iron
I've never played a traditional MMO beyond the starting stuff- no WoW, very little Guild Wars, etc etc. What would be a good role- and class- to start out with as I'm learning the game? The things I'm most familiar with (from other games, mostly; Monster Hunter among them) are positioning and learning to react properly to boss phases, but I've never had to figure out skill rotations that involve more than 4-5 buttons.
leaden ginkgo
oh nice thanks
remote lintel
this game isnt a hardcore traditional mmo
halcyon glen
Our biggest “combo” is 5 skills iirc
remote lintel
yeah
simple shore
I think that comes down to what you enjoy playing. Maybe give us some examples of games that you did enjoy / what you liked to play in them?
remote lintel
otherwise its like a baby mmo
simple shore
It doesnt have to be MMO's
leaden ginkgo
this game will hold your hand so long as you're humble enough to learn
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halcyon glen
What weapon did you play in MH for example?
simple shore
until you get to Savage/Ult at which point it says fuck you git gud
remote lintel
longsword best weapon
alpine iron
I spend a lot of time playing MOBAs- mostly just League now, but others in the past. Not sure if I'd say I enjoy them. I like playing support and tank roles in team games usually.
In Monster Hunter I played Switch Axe and Hammer
remote lintel
do you want to support/dps or more of a support/heal
leaden ginkgo
lets go drg fam someone needs to keep the floor well polished
alpine iron
(I would've played Hunting Horn but I mostly solo'd)
halcyon glen
I was a support main in League myself and gravitated towards healer
alpine iron
Support DPS can be neat, but I've heard people don't always appreciate 'green DPS' showing up in parties
simple shore
One thing to keep in mind is that Healer in FF14 is quite different from most MMO's that you might have a preconception about. They basically are DPS who also heal.
Fuck that
halcyon glen
So welcome to FFXIV
remote lintel
dont know where you heard that
simple shore
Healers are expected to DPS
halcyon glen
Everyone is a DPS
simple shore
Anyone who tells you otherwise is trolling tbh
halcyon glen
Some just can also heal their allies
little swift
Healers are expected to dps to contribute
glad comet
Same goes with healers
halcyon glen
And as a result get instant queues
glad comet
Healers DPS while healing
alpine iron
Coolio
alpine iron
I've watched that partway through- I'll finish watching it
glad comet
@remote lintel
remote lintel
yeah
simple shore
In fact, if you only Heal on a healer, you will probably get some toxicity. or alot.
glad comet
Yeah, watch it
warped nest
At higher level, healers get a lot of tools at their disposal, so they don't actually have to be healing at all time. So, if you ain't healing, you can either sit around and do nothing... Or you can help out in killing stuff
halcyon glen
Bard and Dancer are both essentially Hunting Horn - DPS with a whooole lot of party buffs
glad comet
Do we also suggest the '5 tips to get gud' by Larry? @remote lintel
warped nest
Ehhhhh
remote lintel
the mods dont like memes in this channel
glad comet
Oh true
remote lintel
warped nest
Just stick with the what job to play video for now
little swift
That ones a bit memier
leaden ginkgo
heal only healers are either living the uwu im gonna keep everyone alive saviour fantasy or just uninformed....or lazy
alpine iron
Also, if it's relevant, I played raids in Warframe back when Warframe had raids. My friends dragged me along because none of the random Trinity players they got did their job
remote lintel
bro
warframe raids were the bomb
and yeah ff14 raids take more cooperation than that
slate crow
What exactly is a fellowship?
remote lintel
a message board, basically @slate crow
simple shore
a dead feature
slate crow
Can I be in one while in an FC?
alpine iron
Nightmare Vay Hek was a nightmare to coordinate with randoms, but the upshot is I got used to everyone dying horribly
simple shore
Yeah. But they're basically not really used.
remote lintel
imagine warframe raids except you actually have to attack things at the same time as cooperating and if you make a mistake everyone dies
and that's basically ff14 savage raids
halcyon glen
Well good cause we have plenty of “everyone dying horribly” here
alpine iron
I can do that. Eventually. Given practice. I think
remote lintel
it's not too bad
halcyon glen
Here’s lookin at you, sunken temple of Qarn
warped nest
Just don't make mistake
remote lintel
just dont get hit 
alpine iron
I mostly just get salty at myself when things go bad, because I'm a sadsack
proven sparrow
how do i change my job? I have red mage but I can't equip the crystal
glad comet
equip the weapon
proven sparrow
fuck. thank you
alpine iron
I'm sure playing healer will help me learn to hate though
remote lintel
there's content that's a step below savage called extremes
it's easier
good for dipping your toes in
simple shore
Playing healer is all about hatred.
remote lintel
honestly playing healer is one of the easiest roles in the game
halcyon glen
Yeah so if you want to get a big axe and hit things with it, start as a marauder. If you want to be on your toes based on how bad your teammates are, start as a Conjurer. And if you want to live your fantasy of actually playing Hunting Horn, start as an Archer
simple shore
When i'm on WHM i view my teammates as "those bastards who keep standing in stupid and interrupting my DPS"
lol
exotic ridge
With FF14 I just bought the game is the digital activation code the same as the registration code in the MOG interface?
lime geode
I love healer - I find the rotation thing kinda boring.
remote lintel
healer doesnt really have a set rotation besides the opener
halcyon glen
alpine iron
Important question- how hard is it to target people with heals? Will there be times when I fuck up super hard because I moved my mouse too far
lime geode
I'm actually worried about getting WHM and SCH to 80, guess I'll try AST - heard it's getting buffed.
glad comet
Not hard
remote lintel
lime geode
target via the party list
glad comet
unless you're panicking
alpine iron
Oh thank fuck I have shaky hands
glad comet
remote lintel
you can always target people via their name on the party list
halcyon glen
Practice
lime geode
You can switch between the boss and the tank using the T key.
alpine iron
Oh, huh
little swift
F1 to f8 are also keys to target party members @alpine iron
lime geode
T targets whatever you're targeting is targeting 🙂
remote lintel
dont macro heals
lime geode
I just got the free mana WHM skill - makes coming back from dead so much easier.
Compared to SCH at least.
halcyon glen
I mean I have macros set up for one of my oGCD heals for if I need to throw it at a non-tank for some reason
lime geode
How does that work?
remote lintel
then you have ast where you can basically benediction yourself upon reviving
warped nest
@lime geode you meant TT
lime geode
?
warped nest
T is target, FT is focus target, TT is Target's Target
halcyon glen
T key
lime geode
But if you press T while targeting something it switches targets
lime geode
Si
little swift
Free mana? Are you asking about lucid dreaming?
remote lintel
thin air
halcyon glen
Thin Air
lime geode
^
little swift
Thin air?
lime geode
No mana costs for 12s
lime geode
Well, same effect.
remote lintel
thats what he meant
lime geode
And you regen while not spending.
slate crow
What do you even do in the Lakshmi fight? I went through it and still don’t know what happened.
little swift
Use your duty action
remote lintel
dodge the aoes, pop your bubble forcefield
little swift
Vril to block things
remote lintel
dont get sucked into her bosom
lime geode
Her giant bosom
halcyon glen
Push vril when you’re about to get booted off the stage
And also vril for phase change
remote lintel
and turn up music
alpine iron
How much does race matter, and are there any I should strongly consider/avoid?
warped nest
RE: Thin Air
the difference between getting money for nothing, and for things not cost any money
little swift
It doesn't
halcyon glen
Not one bit
warped nest
Pick race based on preference
glad comet
choose what you like
warped nest
If you want to be a hunk, be a hunk
remote lintel
nothing in character creation affects gameplay
exotic ridge
Guys, If I have the free account and I buy shadowbringers, Is that all I need to buy or have I missed something? Does SB contain all necessary parts to upgrade?
remote lintel
you need the base game
little swift
You also need the base game
warped nest
You need Starter Edition + Shadowbringers
little swift
Or starter edition
remote lintel
you can't buy dlc without buying the base game
exotic ridge
feck was just beginning to wonder that
warped nest
Or Complete Edition (which is Starter + Shadowbringers)
exotic ridge
I have the SB expansion
slate crow
The part of vril I didn’t get was I didn’t know when to actually do it.
slate crow
There was no text or tells that I noticed.
warped nest
How do you have free account and have Stormblood?
remote lintel
@slate crow when there's a roomwide aoe and when shes charging her boob attack
exotic ridge
Free game then I bought the SB expansion
exotic ridge
ooh sorry Free and shadowbringers
slate crow
Powerful bewb
halcyon glen
Yeah you need to buy the starter too
warped nest
You still need to get Starter Edition
little swift
Free as in the twitch prime starter edition?
exotic ridge
So I still need to go and purchase the base game ..
little swift
Or free trial
icy quiver
Is the game have option to have sound when it finds duty finder when I put it in background? I i missed a few times because of it
warped nest
Are your character stuck on lvl 35?
Yes: you have free trial
No: you have starter Edition for free, somehow.
I dunno: open mogstation and take screenshot of your license page (without revealing personal info) so we know what you have
little swift
@icy quiver yes you can set it so system sounds play while client is minimized
opaque maple
Anybody know how to stop the ground doing this everywhere? I’m on MacOS Mojave 😊 can find people complaining about it online but no solutions
little swift
I feel like that's a result of macs not being powerful enough to run the game properly
But I'm not a big techy person
misty aurora
5.35 after 2 week 5.3?
opaque maple
Maybe, I get a lovely 60 FPS but anywhere flat has ground go crazy 🙃
misty aurora
so when 5.35?
little swift
Roughly 6 weeks after 5.3
Consult the geniuses at #technology-discussion and see if they have any ideas
Hardware Hank may know more about this
misty aurora
6 week.....
little swift
How is that an issue? Thats halfway through the patch cycle
misty aurora
ty for info
little swift
5.31 is two weeks after 5.3
icy quiver
Is there any info for next xpac?
icy quiver
if they follow the schelude 5.4 should be in 3 months and 5.5 in 6 months?
limpid lantern
Hello
How far do i need to be in quests in order to unlock the 52/54/56/58 job quests :)? Just in heavensward or even further ?
remote lintel
HW
warped nest
You need to be in the HW region
limpid lantern
Do i need to finish the coming into ishgard quest ?
warped nest
Is it 
or 
?
remote lintel
coming to ishgard is msq
limpid lantern
^
warped nest
Then you should
exotic ridge
Yay thanks guys finally got it registered can actually play now
warped nest
Have fun
exotic ridge
3 days wasted tyring to fix it 😦
warped nest
Oh, there will be a big download seeing that you registered an expansion too
exotic ridge
yeah just got hit with that
mossy tartan
Is manafont used during fire phase to use an extra fire spell before switching to ice?
exotic ridge
thx again
warped nest
Yes, Rem
mossy tartan
👍
gloomy mortar
Which Woodland Exploration should I send my max level 80 retainer on to get rare items? The last 5 times I sent them on the Level XXV, and only got 6 HQ peppermint, worth about 300 Gil on the MB
leaden ginkgo
fat moogle or indigo whale mount?
warped nest
!faq retainerbp
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gloomy mortar
They are also at max gathering stat
remote lintel
fat cat tbh
limpid lantern
Alright ill see if i can get the 52-58 quests then ^^
quasi widget
indigo whale is really big and a bit unwieldy, but the perfect underwater mount. moogle is cool but the music is so so
obsidian patio
The 18-hour ones have a low chance for a rare item from them, I think they’re minions currently.
remote lintel
the moogle music is great
quasi widget
as mount music no
valid pecan
Who has more overall DPS potential black mage or ninja?
exotic ridge
what is a good pet to buy for tanking?
gloomy mortar
Is there an updated list of which Woodland Explorations give minions? The ARR Wiki is mainly blank
warped nest
This is not that kind of game, Buddha
exotic ridge
the little pets that follow you does it give buffs for tanking?
obsidian patio
warped nest
Nope
remote lintel
pets are cosmetics
quasi widget
the minions dont do anything
warped nest
They are just pets
remote lintel
they do nothing
leaden ginkgo
people are really divided on fat mog and indigo whale but then again theres only 2 twoseater moutn in shop
remote lintel
i got the fat moog
quasi widget
you can collect them for an RTS like minigame and they do different things in there, but thats it
just for looking cute
limpid lantern
@quasi widget WAIT WHAT
quasi widget
yeah in the casino
quasi widget
yeah its not great
limpid lantern
Awew
warped nest
It sounds a lot cooler on paper
little swift
Verminion is a minigame
limpid lantern
Yeah, i my mind instantly went, awesome !!!!! Oh....... mweh ....
quasi widget
its not super responsive and its rather slow so yeah. most people just do like 3 matches weekly for the bonus casino fun bucks
warped nest
Who has more overall DPS potential black mage or ninja?
@valid pecan I do want to remind you that in party play, it is more important to play what you enjoy (as you will be more motivated to improve)
crimson wind
quasi widget
the adamantoise 🙂
warped nest
While Ninja does less damage than BLM, Ninja does bring a important damage tool to help out their party
remote lintel
rugged nimbus
Do most store mounts share music? How many have unique music?
limpid lantern
@little swift is that the cactus one ewth the lights ?
gloomy mortar
Is there some Achievement for collecting Orchestra scrolls?
pure oasis
How do I /random in party?
limpid lantern
You get it in the casink yeah ?
remote lintel
yes
little swift
/dice @pure oasis
limpid lantern
Nice thx ^^
little swift
@gloomy mortar yes
rugged nimbus
I'll have to see if i can find a vid or something showing off the different tracks
gloomy mortar
Is it worth it to get the achievement?
remote lintel
meoni should have videos of every mount on the store tho you'll probabl yhave to search for them
little swift
You get more orchestrion rolls out of the achievements @gloomy mortar
rugged nimbus
@remote lintel thanks
leaden ginkgo
the mogstation sale is making me drop $, but im thinking its going to be a long time before we got price drop like this 
quasi widget
you get 2 extra for 100/200 rolls
gloomy mortar
How do you check how many total Fashion Report points you have? I read that if you accrue a certain amount that the store unlocks items
rugged nimbus
Is there a set date for the mog station sale to end?
little swift
Its not explicitly listed anywhere you sorta gauge your own progress based on what's sold by kasumi
gloomy mortar
About how@many do you need to level up ?
little swift
With spring bottoms being the last thing you unlockiirc
Spring bottoms is at 600points cumulatively
gloomy mortar
I have Spring Shirt unlocked
little swift
Theoretical 6weeks of 100 points
gloomy mortar
😮
quasi widget
Is there a set date for the mog station sale to end?
@rugged nimbus August 27 at 12:00 a.m. (PDT)
little swift
@gloomy mortar spring shirt unlocks at 300
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alpine iron
First character made, Roegadyn Conjurer, I assume after you hit a certain level you go into the classes that anyone actually says the name of?
remote lintel
at 30
alpine iron
Neat
remote lintel
and when you progress enough in the msq
alpine iron
Gotcha
jade quartz
!faq job
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jade quartz
alpine iron
How should I be spending time in the early levels? Just progress main quests? Or should I be looking into side quests/activities early on too
jade quartz
Main story and blue quests
alpine iron
I know some games there's no point in doing side stuff until you're near cap
jade quartz
Blue quests unlock content and features.
quasi widget
do what you want to do, but msq unlocks everything (or rather, all the quests that unlock optional stuff)
remote lintel
you dont have to do the ones that say "leves"
jade quartz
You can ignore the ones that unlock other classes though, until you’re interested in playing those classes.
remote lintel
except the first leve one
alpine iron
Gotcha
limpid lantern
Im unlocking the MCH now but i am at the place i need to be at the end(hermitd hovel) bur theres nothing there ?
Oh ...
Nvm
remote lintel
limpid lantern
Apparently if you walk too much to the side of the road the cutscene doesnt trigger ?
kind burrow
im confused, just noticed this, whats this for? XD
gloomy ice
Several of the special dyes in the rainbow tab can be purchased with real money through mogstation. At the same time, however, they can also be found at random via retainer quick ventures. The ones found by retainers are tradeable and are labeled as "general purpose" while those from mogstation can not be traded and are labeled differently.
obsidian wren
You can also get the untradable ones from the recruit a friend reward store as a side note
kind burrow
ah i see thanks, just checked it 🙂
slate crow
Is there a beast tribe that’s just for crafting?
cold crescent
running into an issue since im about to max out dragoon and find a new job to play, but i don't want to rebind my actions every time i switch to dancer
obsidian wren
You can enable/disable shared hotbars in character config > hotbars if you mean that
obsidian wren
And yea viper, ixal/moogle/namazu/dwarf
solar surge
Where to get Thavnairian Mist?
obsidian wren
Prismat, mor dhona, the poetics store in special weapons iirc
solar surge
Okay, thank you much
obsidian wren
It looks accurate enough
Seems to be updated for stormblood at least looking at doman restoration
And i don't think shb has an unique weekly/daily limited thing
Well, blue mage carnivale
And fashion report
Doman restoration is kinda eh reward wise, but you can use it to dump junk for a little more gil
inland kayak
are free/trial players still not able to group up or join guilds?
oak ice
Really whichever you feel like not doing lol
oak ice
Correct, free trials are lonely
inland kayak
xD
obsidian wren
Glamour and some qol stuff like easy ventures/glam prisms m
Squadron dungeons are a pretty decent way to level dps classes too i found
Up to 50ish at least
obsidian patio
they're pretty okay for their level ranges in terms of experience
though the ARR combat tribes (Amalj'aa/Kobolds/Sahagin/Sylphs) are pretty meh in their experience yield, along with having more annoying daily quests
cold crescent
yoyo
having issues with hotbar sharing
i think its prolly complicated
if anyone can help
obsidian patio
What issues are you having?
cold crescent
welllll
oak ice
Character config>hotbar settings>shared hotbar
cold crescent
so all my commands are on hotbar 1, 6, and 7
i turned off sharing for hotbar 1 and i think that worked as it should
but 6 and 7 are my cross hotbars right
and so
whenever i turn off hotbar sharing for those cross hotbars
nothing shows up at all in them
despite the fact that 6 and 7 are full of commands
obsidian patio
It does that because it doesn't know what job you wanted the actions for.
gloomy mortar
@coarse pollen for the checklist, Weekly you should do the Fashion Report. You get 60,000 MGP and 10,000 Gil
cold crescent
whats the solution?
quasi widget
its posted on the ffxiv subreddit every week if you search
gloomy mortar
And Daily retainer missions
cold crescent
like how do i tell it which jobs i want the actions applied to?
this is all a bit confusing to me rn
gloomy mortar
Ixal Daily turn ins of low level too
warped nest
like how do i tell it which jobs i want the actions applied to?
@cold crescent it just clears it
cold crescent
i dont think that worked
since there were still things on hotbar 6 and 7 after i unchecked the box
warped nest
Are you changing your 6/7 between shared and not shared?
cold crescent
the hotbar is giving me no issues
the cross hotbar is where things are going wrong
dire kite
does anyone know how I can connect my ps4 controller to my pc account? I already logged in with a xbox controller and I tried logging into and playing with a playstation controller but it just won't sync
cold crescent
whenever i unshare the cross hotbar it just doesn't work
like nothing shows up in those cross hotbars
despite 6 and 7 being full of commands
warped nest
Take a picture
warped nest
Was the one of the 6 there before you changed 6/7 to shared?
naive rock
anyone knows why when i change class my skills in the hotbars won't change?
warped nest
Because those hotbar are shared
warped nest
You don't put your class specific actions on a shared hotbar
valid pecan
Where can I buy lvl 70 gear?
warped nest
I'm just gonna cut to the chase, whatever dumb thing the crosshotbar is doing, it probably because it is whakcy on the back end
warped nest
Are you sure that the display is reflecting off 6/7?
warped nest
Character config > hotbar setting > custom
warped nest
Your wxhb are reflecting off 6's L1
And 7's R1
So when you change your hotbar sharing setting from shared to not shared, it just change back to what it was when it wasn't shared
Now just reassign those buttons
Just clear everything off 6/7, set them to not shared, then assign buttons based on your screenshot
white ether
Is anyone on the pc version ?
warped nest
Hud setting
warped nest
Bottom of the drop down list
Elemental Gauge
You can change size, transparency, and position
acoustic osprey
ahh okok imma go try it
warped nest
@cold crescent for organizations sake, I would suggest just park everything on 6
Then you change your wxhb setting to base on 6's R1 and L1, the UI on your cross hotbar will do the rest
obsidian patio
As an extra tip, you can save a hotbar spot for all your jobs by changing R3 in the system configuration+controller settings to execute Macro #98 or #99, which would be filled with a sprint macro
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obsidian patio
It's not very often that you need to use the first-person mode.
limpid lantern
Does the extra exp based on lvl difference from the leveling roulettw come once or always ?
quasi widget
roulette bonuses are once every day
warped nest
@limpid lantern the daily bonus will adjust based your level and the dungeon you got
Tldr: do it once a day if you want exp
obsidian patio
@coarse pollen Pure White is extra white, while Snow white can look faded on most gear
tropic summit
I'm currently lv80 DoL with lv77 gear. I tried farming white scrips to upgrade my gear to i470 but it seems my current gear isn't even close to hitting collectability so I'm thinking of getting white scrips from custom deliveries. How sensible is this plan? I feel like I might be looking at things backwards.
Am I even supposed to go from lv77 gear to i470? Maybe I should buy the i430 Dwarven set first? My DoHs are at 71 so crafting seems like an even longer way away.
obsidian patio
77 gear should be good enough for Kai-shirr's collectables, What rotation do you usually use for collecting?
but yeah, the i430 set should be pretty cheap on the marketboard if you don't want to upgrade to facet
tropic summit
The collectables I tried was Rowena's, haven't unlocked Kai-shirr's yet
gloomy mortar
If I put items up for sale on the MB, then subscription lapses, do the items get de-listed?
sweet pasture
what's the quickest way to end my life now that I know I no longer have access to the smol Makai MCH Pistol that has been randomly and suddenly removed from vendors in 5.1 after years of being essentially free
tropic summit
As for rotation, I was doing this
you talking about Makai Hand Mortar @sweet pasture? Cause those are available from Salvager NPCs according to Garlandtools
tropic summit
Anyways, thanks Wynne. I'll go ahead with unlocking Custom Deliveries and trying out Kai-shirr then
white ether
What’s a legacy server?
tropic summit
I don't mind buying the i430 set if I have to, but if I can go straight to i470, that'd be cool
sweet pasture
I'm triggered by devs removing content from their game but this aint #rants so I'll go stew elsewhere 🙃
cloud lake
how do you send tells across servers with still being on your sever I see people do it I just don't know how
obsidian patio
/tell firstname lastname@servername
cloud lake
it would be thier server right?
rose tree
Is buying the Starter Edition worth it?
obsidian patio
you use the @, yes
oak ice
Starter edition is the base game
gloomy mortar
How useful is the free version of the FF14 App?
obsidian patio
not very, honestly.
rose tree
Yes, but is it worth a buy. Or should I just go for the Shadowbringer/play F2P
obsidian patio
You can't use most of the non-chat features while online, for one.
You need the base game to register shadowbringers
and FFXIV is not F2P, unless you mean never leave the free trial
rose tree
You know what I mean with F2P :P
So, I need to buy the Starter Edition before I can upgrade to Shadowbringer?
oak ice
You can either buy starter plus Shadowbringers or just complete edition, it's the same price unless you find a sale on one
obsidian patio
yes
next steppe
I was just in an alliance raid on weeping city, got to Ozma, and my game crashed randomly (I've done this trial before, not for a while though), and haven't had a game crash for a long time.
I go to boot the game up, and select my character, and go to the loading screen for what I'd guess would be the alliance raid still, but the game hard crashes on the loading screen.
I'm not really sure what to do, I'm guessing something in weeping city is causing my game to crash, but if I can't log in to leave, I can't leave ;-;
oh, 5th time let me in! I'm not sure what was happening then, but I joined back during the final boss. Lucky I suppose!
wanton shadow
I've noticed that a lot of the textures in game look pretty bad...is there an HD texture pack or a mod for that?
slate arrow
this game was made in 2 years back in 2011-2013
they recycled a shitton of stuff and/or compressed a shit ton of stuff from 1.0
most texture mods only modify the player stuff anyways
wanton shadow
rip
wanton shadow
bad in what sense
white ether
The resolution
wanton shadow
hmm I dunno, I use shareX for screenshots
white ether
Is that good?
wanton shadow
its an extremely versatile screenshot tool on steam
not the simplest but it can do most of anything
slate arrow
are you using in game or third party
low sun
you could also just use the print screen button and then paste it into any imaging tool for a loss-free screenshot
slate arrow
also, are you using /gpose and whatnot
glad comet
So I just got Synastry. So in a dungeon, would you pair synastry with one of the other DPS?
& is there's a recommendation on whoever to pair with?
obsidian patio
You use it on whoever needs the extra healing
frosty badger
hello, are we going to have new ways to spend allegory next patch?
obsidian patio
probably not
glad comet
don't think so, no.
frosty badger
wait..what is Faux Hollows exactly?
obsidian patio
new tomestones come with every even patch with the ilvl increase
Faux Hollows has you complete "Unreal" Trials, which are old trials scaled up to the current level. After you clear it you get access to a Battleship-like board where you pick squares to reveal stuff and get Faux Leaves to spend on rewards.
frosty badger
hmmm
white ether
How to I move my chat box
obsidian patio
drag the first tab of the chat box below where you would type stuff
and you scale it by dragging the top right-corner
frosty badger
i mean the log window
zinc orbitBOT
white ether
@frosty badger click and hold general
wet cradle
what does this icon mean on the bottom left?
simple shore
Where are you seeing that icon
simple shore
Means you havent mined it before ever
wet cradle
ahhh thanks
leaden ginkgo
Coming from a White Mage main. I then tried BLM and got it to 80. Mainly been tanking and now have War and GNB 80. Looking for any recommendation on next job to play. Really can be all personal preference.
simple shore
Are you looking for a new main, or are you looking for "something to do"/
obsidian patio
As someone who started as BLM into WHM, I personally enjoy Dancer/Red Mage, along with Dark Knight
warped nest
Dancer, I found a full priority rotation quite fun to learn
Dragoon is nice too, fun animations and cool FX
(I will basically recommend everything except Monk)
naive rock
i think i'm missing something but i can't figure out what on the wiki, i did talk to the ministrel near kugane markets but i only got 3 extreme trials, what do i have to do to unlock the other trials?
leaden ginkgo
I will always be a white mage. I love it so much but I am shocked at how much I’ve enjoyed tanking
warped nest
Did you do other trials on normal mode?
leaden ginkgo
Dancer does look fun
simple shore
You need to, you know, do the other trials on normal first.
warped nest
@leaden ginkgo I started in 2013, and I only found my calling in 2019 when I picked up tanking (too frustrated by dumb tanks with crap boss positioning on EX)
You never know what works for you
obsidian patio
Besides Ninja/Monk/Summoner/Paladin/Gunbreaker, I like playing most of the jobs.
simple shore
Honestly fuck Monk in its current state.
warped nest
I found Monk to be not very rewarding to play, everything are fun imo
leaden ginkgo
I started a few weeks ago and this is my first MMO. Made a rogue in wow years ago and just couldn’t get into it
simple shore
Like, Monk isnt "bad". Its just "not fun".
warped nest
Ninja is way better after the 5.1 tweak
You actually uses Ninjutsu now
No more using Fuma to avoid clipping
leaden ginkgo
I feel like I never see ninjas in rouletted and no that is not a joke or play on words haha
Roulettes*
frosty badger
did they mention new meal recipes?
slate arrow
they're lumped into the new repices yes
simple shore
I doubt it will be anything but crafter/gatherer food though
leaden ginkgo
My FC has been harping on me to do my "patch prep" but I've got no clue what that means
simple shore
Well, given what type of patch it is
leaden ginkgo
started the game a few months ago
tidal yarrow
I can't log in in my account, isn't the maintenance tomorrow?
slate arrow
!maint
zinc orbitBOT
Tick, Tock, Kupo!
simple shore
There isnt really any prep to do. Not really
Crafters/Gatherer would be stockpiling materials and materia right now.
rose tree
How long will the maintenance last?
simple shore
Everyone else? Whatever prep they're claiming you should do is probably bunk
slate arrow
24 hours, but maybe less
leaden ginkgo
I passively got my gatherers up to 80 along with Culinarian and then they kind of talked me into getting my crafters up to 50...but I'm not sure how to level them after 50
rose tree
...24h maintenance?? Big oof
quasi widget
as far as prep goes for the patch... having crafts at 70 for the dwarves quests, done the first nier raid, msq finished, thats about it
tidal yarrow
how do I check if my sub ended?
wet cradle
why can't I use manipulation while I'm lvl 70 alchemist?
simple shore
@wet cradle 65 quest.
quasi widget
quest unlock
quasi widget
all the SB crafter quests give an entire level for a no mat required craft. worth before 70
leaden ginkgo
It took me like 8 hours to go from level 30 on all my crafters to level 50 and now I have no idea how to level them from level 50 onwards to 80 in a single day
simple shore
Ishgardian Restoration, basically
leaden ginkgo
oh that's when I do that?
simple shore
Stock the mats up, sit there and spam macros.
leaden ginkgo
someone told me to do leves in Foundation
simple shore
Honestly you should have done it starting at 20
leaden ginkgo
and only leves
simple shore
Fuck that, lol
obsidian patio
You can also have someone give you items for leves.
simple shore
Whoever is giving you advice is....probably not a good source.
frosty badger
do we have new leves coming?
leaden ginkgo
yeah they said "Just do leves for everything at level 50"
obsidian patio
probably not
simple shore
Yeah you should ignore that person
leaden ginkgo
gotcha
frosty badger
so the whole Collectable Synthesis will be removed?
simple shore
Ishgardian Restoration is by far the best method for levelling crafters/gatherers currently.
quasi widget
they added ishgard restoration and you can basically powerlevel there
frosty badger
i dont get it
obsidian patio
Collectables will still be around, they're now just being changed to be only for specific items on a non-changing rotation.
simple shore
As in
simple shore
Recipes will either be for collectibles, or not for collectibles.
leaden ginkgo
So collectables aren't the whole "oh WTF is it now today?" rotation anymore?
obsidian patio
with items used only for turning in
frosty badger
oh so they just removed the rotation?
simple shore
No not just that
You will now longer be crafting (random piece of battle gear, but its a collectible)
frosty badger
hmmm
leaden ginkgo
How do you partake in Ishgard restoration?
simple shore
Its going to be a unique recipe that is only useful for that
frosty badger
must try
leaden ginkgo
they're making it more well defined and simple and easier to remember then for collectibles
simple shore
Yeah but its only used for turning in
leaden ginkgo
oh that is such a relief
leaden ginkgo
Thank you for posting that, I was confused about it
obsidian patio
@leaden ginkgo unlock it from a quest near the Foundation Aetheryte. Requires completion of the patch 3.3 MSQ and a level 20 crafter/gatherer
frosty badger
guess i need to try it to know exactly
leaden ginkgo
Ok thank you
simple shore
Xem, today if you want to turn in a collectible to Rowena, you would turn on collectible synthesis, and then craft (some normal item) as a collectible.
In 5.3, you will craft (an item that literally is only useful for turning in to Rowena)
leaden ginkgo
I found a google doc about Ishgard resto but I'm not sure if it's current? It says that it's made by I’nanghal Shikhu from the Balance discord, is thsi what I should use?
warped nest
Basically, absolutely no way to make mistakes
leaden ginkgo
Another question. Are they added more housing in the patch. I have a friend trying to get a house and she spends hours a day standing in the same spot clicking on the post. It’s been over a month now
simple shore
Dreamer if you dont show us the doc we dont know.
warped nest
Housing is on pause right now, cuz covid
obsidian patio
That's the most recent one, dreamer.
leaden ginkgo
obsidian patio
yes it's still accurate
leaden ginkgo
awesome thank you!
leaden ginkgo
buuuuuuuuut?
simple shore
It's about to not be
wet cradle
does it make sense to do the restoration? never participated in it
simple shore
So committing all of that to memory right now might not be entirely productive.
leaden ginkgo
oh right
because there's updates to it in the patch
they're adding like a new area or something right?
frosty badger
"The display of special recipes in the Crafting Log has been adjusted to improve visibility." Like searching for the orchestrion?
obsidian patio
🤷♂️
frosty badger
hehe
obsidian patio
won't know for sure until we see it
frosty badger
right...
simple shore
Realistically with it being a static list
there's no reason to manually page through the log anyway
Just right click search by crafting method
or put the name in the search box
I can count on one hand the number of times i've manually looked through the crafting log i think.
leaden ginkgo
Do I NEED skysteel tools if I'm just a casual gatherer/crafter?
obsidian patio
no
wet cradle
how do I know if I have it already?
obsidian patio
If you don't plan on doing the starred crafts then the i430 set or Professional stuff is more than enough for you.
@wet cradle open up your gathering log and click on the tab to switch over to the folklore nodes, if nothing shows for the Dravania book in the botanist section then you don't have it.
leaden ginkgo
Is POTD reliable for 30-50?
obsidian patio
You can also try buying the book, the game will stop you if you already used it.
wet cradle
oh got it thanks!!!
simple shore
Oh it actually stops you now?
leaden ginkgo
I just want to get my AST up to poetics gear
slate arrow
yes, but doing Dungeons will be vastly faster
twilit python
whats better, doing daily roullete on a lvl 80 for the tomestones of allegory, or doing it on a lower level for the xp? i barely just got into stormblood and see no other way of getting those tomestones, and apparently they are limited to 450 a week, so it would seem like a good idea to get those, but the xp is sooo nice so im torn 
slate arrow
do your leveling roulette for the EXP
roulettes should generally be used for EXP
if you need tomestones just run the dungeon itself
it's 50 tomestones each vs one time 20-30 tomestones
simple shore
I mean, it comes down to
leaden ginkgo
Thank you all so much for the help. The whole crafting thing has been a bit bamboozling. ❤️
simple shore
You need to be capping allegory every week
twilit python
like i said, i have no dungeon that drops those tomestones, only place i can get them atm is from these roulletes, and they are limited to 450 a week
do i unlock a dungeon for that in stormblood or shadowbringers
i barely just started stormblood
simple shore
wait what
slate arrow
you need to be in shadowbringers in order to access the allegory dungeons
leaden ginkgo
those 450 tomestones are from ShB
slate arrow
just ignore them for now
simple shore
That's at 80
twilit python
i am 80
simple shore
Okay so you've painted yourself into a corner
twilit python
yeah what i mean is, i can get the stones right now from roulletes
slate arrow
¯_(ツ)_/¯
simple shore
Your only source of allegory is roulettes then
twilit python
is it worth capping them weekly vs getting xp
simple shore
So do them all on the 80
leaden ginkgo
OH that reminds me of another question! Someone told me to not meld my Neo Ishgardian gear for my bard at all until after the patch, is that because there's new materia showing up or something?
slate arrow
you can't really spend them until you finish the Quest Shadowbringers anyways
@leaden ginkgo upgrade method
simple shore
and go do your MSQ so you can stop dealing with this problem
twilit python
well yes, but at 450 a week and 2k cap, its going to take weeks
i have 550 hours in the game atm
barely started stormblood
its going to take a while
before im done with shadowbringers
leaden ginkgo
Upgrade method?
slate arrow
you'll be able to get endgame ready gear without a weekly limit
frosty badger
"A warning message will now be displayed if your retainer's gil limit will be exceeded when trading gil to your retainer, or when selling items on the market board or via a mannequin." what exactly do they mean by that and what is a mannequin?
twilit python
aight
slate arrow
@leaden ginkgo tl;dr turn in crafted gear for token, take tokens + uncapped tomestone item to buy upgraded crafted gear
frosty badger
retainer gil limit is same as player's right?
slate arrow
yes
frosty badger
so let's say a retainer has max gil, will i still be able to put items on sale?
simple shore
I mean, you can but....
simple shore
That said
slate arrow
you can but the gil will be lost to the void
frosty badger
im close
simple shore
I doubt that?
frosty badger
XD
slate arrow
max gil is 999,999,999
slate arrow
there's literally nothing to do with that much money at this point
simple shore
.....how in the fuck do you have 541mil. based on the questions ive seen you ask alone, that just defies reason.
slate arrow
don't ask
slate arrow
anyways, unless you're going to day one buy crafted gear + maxmeld or get super invested into housing
there's nothing to really spend that gil on
frosty badger
ik
leaden ginkgo
@slate arrow I understood the first part of that...trading in crafted gear for a token but what's an "uncapped tomestone item"?
frosty badger
XD
slate arrow
have the stacks in a multiple of ten
quasi widget
talk to the npc next to the npc you talk to to get in
simple shore
Talk to the NPC right next to where you queue
slate arrow
then go and get it approved at the approver
@leaden ginkgo using the 5.0 crafted set: you turned in your Facet gear for tokens, and bought Kholusia Rain with Goetia
@finite swift it's random
frosty badger
the most expensive you will pay for in the game is getting a mansion?
frosty badger
like 50M?
slate arrow
yes
simple shore
50m normally
If you want to buy one now
Pretty much have to buy it on the secondary market
frosty badger
missed a very good chance cuz i didn't properly read the patch notes...
frosty badger
fml XD
wet cradle
have the mining collectibles rotation changed for shadowbringers?
can you still use this? https://www.ffxiv-gathering.com/40.php
frosty badger
having the patch notes is one thing, and fully understanding them is another
half kraken
Er is there any way I can use the level 80 DoL gear, glamour other items onto it for each specific DoL class?
slate arrow
glamour plate linking
half kraken
Linking?
simple shore
Honestly the housing situation is a complete disaster right now. SE is gonna need to come in with some heavy handed fixes if they ever want it to get back to normal
leaden ginkgo
@slate arrow so it's basically how the first Ironworks gear set gets upgraded then?
half kraken
Very cool, thanks!
leaden ginkgo
you buy an upgrade item with tomestones and then trade in gear with that item for better gear
slate arrow
you exchange the tokens + item
warped nest
@half kraken take note that glamour plate applying glamour only works inside cities
slate arrow
you have to turn in your old gear for tokens
leaden ginkgo
okay so gear turns into tokens and then tokens plus tomestone item for better gear
slate arrow
yes
warped nest
This process let you cheat a lil bit because the token is universal
So you can say, trade tank gear to token
frosty badger
are you talking about the new ilv 490 gear?
frosty badger
ah
slate arrow
as long as it's crafted, you can trade it in
frosty badger
i see
slate arrow
for only 1/3 the tokens though
frosty badger
not worth it but something
warped nest
But it might work in some cases
slate arrow
the exchange rate is 1/1 for HQ
warped nest
For example a NQ chest might worth enough for a HQ ring
Maybe
I don't remember the cost
slate arrow
so if you exchange an HQ chestpiece, you'll have enough tokens to get an HQ augumented chestpiece
leaden ginkgo
okay dumb question about that then....do I have to craft the gear myself or can I buy the crafted gear on the MB and then turn it in?
slate arrow
both
warped nest
You can buy if you can't craft
leaden ginkgo
thank god
warped nest
Based on what I said, if you can buy 3 NQ chest much cheaper combined than a HQ chest...
Those 3 NQ chest will yield enough token for a HQ augmented chest
frosty badger
smart..smart..
warped nest
Or buy 1 HQ chest and use the token to buy multiple HQ augmented accessories
simple shore
I mean, if you have the best gear it means you've cleared all of Savage.
frosty badger
people would still go for HQ xD
simple shore
So at that point maybe its time to think about taking on Ultimate
leaden ginkgo
okay that makes me wonder, will I need to buy more than one full HQ Neo set to afford the augmented Neo set?
frosty badger
lol @finite swift
leaden ginkgo
whew thank you
warped nest
HQ 480 trades to HQ augmented on a 1 to 1 ratio
slate arrow
you're just limited by your phantasmagoria
warped nest
NQ 480 trades to HQ augmented on a 3 to 1 ratio.
Now you understand the concept of power creep
slate arrow
good thing this ain't a pay2win mmo
simple shore
Eh, that doesnt really define power creep
leaden ginkgo
okay got it, I've been capped on Phantasmagoria for months now
frosty badger
ikr
slate arrow
anyways thats discussion
frosty badger
(good choice)
leaden ginkgo
@finite swift just do the daily Grand Company turn ins for Cul and it'll level in no time
Cul was the first one I got to 80
and I did it all passively
warped nest
The recommendation is to do more MSQ so you have Gil as seed money and do Doh/l as a set so you are self sufficient
leaden ginkgo
oh....
slate arrow
there's a leveling guide in #doh-dol-lounge i think
leaden ginkgo
really? I dind't know that
frosty badger
GOOD LUCK 😉
leaden ginkgo
wait I don't even see that channel
slate arrow
give yourself the role in #612757637813239808 :p
anyways for reference
1 crafted upgrade token is 50 tomestones
none to a few million
it all depends on how much time you want to put into actually gathering and crafting
leaden ginkgo
the crafting professions all really do feed into each other
along with the gathering ones
warped nest
Hence the recommendation to do doh/l as a set
slate arrow
7 tokens for each weapon (except PLD)
leaden ginkgo
Ore that I'll gather on mining feeds into goldsmithing/armorer/blacksmith which produce items that feed into others
slate arrow
below 80, you basically have to get lucky and/or find a niche to make a profit
warped nest
You gather for yourself, then whatever you need a lot of, you gather extra and try to sell to other player
That's how you make money early on with crafter too, "do I need a lot of these processed lumber? OK, I will make extra and sell to others"
slate arrow
50 tomestones an item
7 per weapon (4 for PLD)
3, 5, 3, 2, 5, 3 per slot
2 for all accessories
for DoL: profits come from consistently selling
slate arrow
also, different datacenters have different prices
warped nest
Low level DoH/L make money by saving other DoH their time
slate arrow
Japan in particular has a hell of a different market due to
solemn delta
I just skipped through that maintenance screen cause I'm in a rush to get my roulettes done, 24 hour yeah?
slate arrow
yknow
simple shore
True. Still, i'm on preferred server on my DC so we're typically the dirt cheap on.
zinc orbitBOT
Tick, Tock, Kupo!
simple shore
Oh right
slate arrow
aye
solemn delta
Yeah but it's a 24 hour maint right?
quick notch
yes
slate arrow
yes
solemn delta
Time to play another game for once then
slate arrow
there's a chance it might end early but given COVID I think it'll be the full 24 hours
@finite swift it's a Tomestone material, you cannot gather it
¯_(ツ)_/¯
ask yoship
quick notch
The Final Days are nigh 
solemn delta
Finishes 9am my time so it won't really matter
slate arrow
it's been like that for ages normalchamp
solemn delta
Gmt
leaden ginkgo
What abilities should I use to get most yield out of a timed node?
gritty oracle
Is there any way to increase flying speed? Just the other day I was doing a map party and someone's mount was fay faster than me. We were both flying.
gritty oracle
my fps isn't to blame either right now
slate arrow
¯_(ツ)_/¯
zinc orbitBOT
slate arrow
do you have any questions daka or are you just here to complain
that you need to do combat content to make combat gear
simple shore
Not even close to true