ah well I got her
#questions-and-help
wet cradle
simple shore
Also i really would not suggest trying to get to 70 off of a 260/270 weapon only. That will last you until ~64-65.
At which point you will get better things available to you
wet cradle
like?
obsidian patio
dungeon gear
simple shore
Quest rewards. Dungeon drops.
spring swift
In websites there are emoji's i can copy paste to fit in the names of discord text channels, but i've only seen standard emoji's on google for that so far. Is this possible with Final Fantasy emoji's aswell? Like a small moogle / chocobo
obsidian patio
pretty sure only default emojis will work
cerulean kestrel
Question-
If I get the complete game, I get 30 days of free trial of membership, right?
If I inputted a code for 60 days right after I got the complete game with the 30 days of free trial running, will it be 90 days or will my free trial be revoked and the 60 days will start to be consumed?
simple shore
It's not 30 days of free trial membership
oak ice
Buying the base game will give 1 month free playtime
But should you decide instead to get the free trial, it's permanently free
simple shore
No, no, thats not teh question
Sorry tanks instapulling.
Its not 30 days of free trial - its 30 days of sub time. Think of it like it was a 30 day sub time card
Its not "different" from your 60 day code
frosty badger
What happens if subscription expired while still gardening, will the crops wilt and die?
obsidian patio
if they're done growing, then they'll stay there completely fine
if not, then after 24 hours since the last watering they'll start to wither and die assuming they don't finish growing.
frosty badger
Oof
zinc orbitBOT
frosty badger
Maybe I should've noted done when I planted them
compact sundial
Can anyone help me. I bought costumes on square enix website but i dont see it on my mail
warped nest
Is it an account wide item?
queen holly
hey i had a question im pretty new to the game and have like 8 days of game play time, today my new player status got removed due to probably having enough hours but i feel like i got thrown into the deep because i just arrived in shadowbringers and have no idea what to do after my question was is there a way to join the novice network again? because i need the help
compact sundial
What do you mean account wide
little swift
The only way to rejoin novice network at this point is to become a mentor @queen holly
queen holly
damn feels bad...
simple shore
Also uh, you're probably better off asking for help here than the NN
NN is....notorious for spreading misinfo
little swift
Account wide means every character in your m ogstation service account gets a copy of it
queen holly
i hate to spam the discord with questions because i have no clue about the game 
ive just been doing story so far
polar hound
That's what it's here for
queen holly
little swift
Jk I'm unemployed anyways
shrewd owl
Ask questions it's always nice to see them answered
queen holly
any things i should focus on doing? i just arrived in shadow bringers and what do i need to do after story?
queen holly
a few yeah
compact sundial
no its not account wide. specifically chose tonberry which im at
little swift
You must do them before finishing shadowbringers
simple shore
"Role Quests" replace the Job Quests you've been doing so far (i hope you've been doing them)
queen holly
oh really
shrewd owl
Ye just make sure you do the Crystal Tower soon since it's a mandatory thing come 5.3
queen holly
ive just done a few on my samurai but never on my tank
simple shore
Uh
little swift
What's a few?
queen holly
the blue ones? yeah
simple shore
Job quests unlock new skills
queen holly
just to progress further into the story
little swift
Job quests unlock skills that are part of your jobs kit
simple shore
You should go back and do those immediately
little swift
Yes it auto completes them for boosted jobs
shrewd owl
Have you done all of your Samurai quests tho
queen holly
yeah then im fine on my tank
queen holly
samurai not everything i think im at lvl 58 job quest on my samurai
shrewd owl
oof
vernal bramble
what is this orb? already saw 2 of it
vernal bramble
Ohhh, damn thanks!
simple shore
Thats what works on most of them
vernal bramble
oh thanks, pray worked for this one
twilit schooner
Planning on coming back to the game and i noticed that if i ping elemental it sits at 160-260, a couple of months ago it was at 60-90 ping. Anyone else experiencing this? Playing from the Philippines btw
leaden ginkgo
can i get help recommending a melee dps class for a friend? ive only played drg, would like to know how the others compare. my friend great at fps but mmo is new to him, he says he wants something not too hard w/decent damage since he doesnt want to stress too much on rotations for msq prog. i think his top picks are sam and nin if it fits his criteria.
exotic ridge
Question, The Smith and tanking tests on the final test how do I stop the archer running forward into the battle and getting killed, Ive tried swopping to the new monster and fast bals or total eclippse but it ignores me and runs to the archer and kills her? none of my enimty things seem to make a diff
queen holly
@leaden ginkgo i would say samurai tbf
obsidian patio
@exotic ridge Do you have Iron Will active?
exotic ridge
hmm maybe not
I didnt use it on any of the other tests, i thoughtt hat was just for dungeon stuff?
obsidian patio
it increases enmity generated by x10
you have it active whenever you need to be the main tank
leaden ginkgo
@twilit schooner is your isp globe? theres some issue with it accdng to my friends, but it could also be that a lot more people are online in your area due to covid and we both know how sht our isps are in general to begin with
simple shore
You should have on your tank stance at all times (except if you are in a dungeon with 2 tanks and the other tank has on their stance)
Solo, in group, doesnt matter
Have it on
queen holly
i have it perma on no matter what 
twilit schooner
@leaden ginkgo I'm using Converge, maybe it's due to covid. Do you use any Vpn?
simple shore
@leaden ginkgo As far as a Melee suggestion - Samurai is the easiest imo, but you cant play that right away. Of the three you can start as (counting NIN since you basically can) i would say DRG is the most straightforward.
NIN has mudra to understand. MNK has its current clusterfuck design to figure out which is about to get changed twice.
DRG is not particularly complex.
leaden ginkgo
@twilit schooner my ping at the start of lockdown was at 70s, now its constantly at 120s, called skycable if theres any issue... none just congestion i guess. vpn only takes brings it down to 100 or 110 sometimes it makes it worse
simple shore
VPN is good for when a bad node between you and the server is causing issues, or your ISP is routing you inefficiently. VPN is bad if neither of those are the case, more often than not.
leaden ginkgo
@simple shore thanks i guess ill rec lnc to drg and let him figure out if hes up for sam
obsidian patio
@icy goblet you're looking at old information for the first phase of construction. All current Skybuilder materials are now obtained from the Diadem.
You enter it through an NPC at the firmament
simple shore
DRG and SAM are also the most similar to each other of the melee, so it would be a good starting point regardless if SAM was what he wanted in the long run.
twilit schooner
@leaden ginkgo That sucks, might just hold off from coming back. My ping for dota 2 jp servers is around 30-40 don't know why it's so bad for ff14
simple shore
Have you tried pinging the JP Datacenters directly?
just to see if there's disparity between your in-game performance and your actual connection to it?
twilit schooner
Yeah i've been pinging since yesterday it's constantly at 160-260 atm
Haven't tried in game because i might waste my sub if the lag is bad lol
simple shore
Damn. Well, pretty much get fucked at that point i guess.
260 seems really unreasonable though
twilit schooner
Yeah just have to wait i guess, around 6 months ago it was at 60-90
slate crow
Is there a set time for maintenance?
leaden ginkgo
@twilit schooner i have the same issue, ping in other games(ow and dota) is max at 80 while ffxiv never gets lower than 120. some days i get up to 260plus and dc a lot, might be worth to wait it out. i heard converge is also having issues esp. in provincial areas.
simple shore
DST isnt relevant when comparing Pacific Time / Eastern Time
As both timezones use it
3 hour separation, thus its 6AM EST
slate crow
I know some states don’t use it. 🤔
I usually get off at 4am, so I should be good Sunday night. Just gonna play something else Monday. and have withdrawals
simple shore
The only states that dont use DST are hawaii (and you're unlikely to mix that up with PST) and Arizona (which is not in PST either)
craggy pivot
this game support addons?
zinc orbitBOT
obsidian patio
Grab the quest "In the Middle of Nowhere" near the Crystarium Aetheryte
and spoiler text is done ||Like this||
||example||
@craggy pivot not officially, but you won't get in trouble for using them as long as you don't tell random players you're using them or use them to harass others.
tidal yarrow
Grab the quest "In the Middle of Nowhere" near the Crystarium Aetheryte
@obsidian patio
I don't have it somehow
obsidian patio
Go to your journal and look in the completed quest section for "Chronicles of a New Era - Eden" and see what the lowest quest name is in that category
craggy pivot
@obsidian patio can you link some good resource with them please?
restive nimbus
hey all so I've done DPS my entire time with FFXIV (which as only been for a month or so) but I want to try out tanking. Any good recommendations on which tank job is good right now?
obsidian patio
I don't know of any besides ACT (dps parser) and Reshade (color filter/screenshot helper). resources for ACt can be found in #endgame-lounge and Reshade can be found in #ffxiv-screenshots
tidal yarrow
Go to your journal and look in the completed quest section for "Chronicles of a New Era - Eden" and see what the lowest quest name is in that category
@obsidian patio
drop dead shiva
craggy pivot
thanks
obsidian patio
all tank jobs are good. If you want good starting ones to get into the rhythm then I recommend Gladiator/Paladin or Marauder/Warrior
you're not looking at the right section
Is there no section labelled "Chronicles of a New Era - Eden"?
obsidian patio
Is the quest maybe hiding in your quest log? that can happen if you have a bunch of others accepted.
tidal yarrow
I don't have accepted the quest yet
cause I can't find it on crystarium
I just realized why
obsidian patio
Do you still need to complete the base shadowbringers story? 😛
tidal yarrow
I'm in still on the quest "Shadowbringers". it's not ended yet despite having watched end credits yesterday and everything
had to talk with tataru
broken thorn
when ur downloading the game, does the download/installation progress save at some point so that if the launcher crashed you'll be at that same spot??
valid pecan
Where do I take a quest to become black mage as a secound job?
crystal shoal
hey guys can I ask a question regarding act
proven bay
Thaumaturge's guild in Ul'Dah @valid pecan
crystal shoal
or is it illegal here
valid pecan
@proven bay thanks
dapper shadow
Sure ask away
valid pecan
Where should I buy gear if my secound job is lvl 1
leaden ginkgo
So how hard is Sigmascape Savage?
Unsynced
I mostly wonder for Glam farming. .x .
Sigma 2 or 3
...I mostly am asking to see how many folks to get to farm it out. .x .
obsidian patio
You'll need a full party for the most part to ensure mechanics work as intended and not act weirdly
as for how much you need to know for the fights, I only know for Kefka (all of the first part of his first phase and everything before second forsaken for the 2nd half of the fight)
obsidian patio
@valid pecan buy gear at the market-place of the main city-states, they sell gear from 1 to 50
@finite swift what do you mean by FC fishing? If you mean the Submarines then no that's only for FC housing.
crystal shoal
ok when I install the overlay plugin it says the access to a C Disc location is denied
obsidian patio
Sounds like FC Airships/Submarines then, yeah.
crystal shoal
the log file locatiob
opal tree
im a returning steam player missing stormblood & shadowbringers, currently entering HW questline. should i wait for steam sale or buy shadowbringer full price now?
more accurately, will there be a discount for shadowbringers on steam anytime soon?
obsidian patio
pretty sure steam recently had a sale that ended so I don't expect another one so soon.
obsidian patio
#doh-dol-lounge has a link in the main pin for leveling rotations
grab the crafting and gathering role in #612757637813239808 to see the channel
zinc orbitBOT
obsidian patio
They're for stuff at or just below your level
and you adjust as needed according to your stats
lime geode
Did I just get a message saying the game is going to be down an entire day for maintenance or did I misread that?
shrewd owl
yeah august 10th there's gonna be 24 hour maintenance
obsidian patio
for major patches, yes
tidal yarrow
what are tomestones of phantasmagoria for?
obsidian patio
i460/470 gear and crafting materials
tidal yarrow
ahh oke
lime geode
Huh. Interesting. Do they add a day of game time for everyone? I've never heard of any game having a maintenance window that long.
dapper shadow
Do plants die during these maints or are their lives extended?
obsidian patio
their timer is paused during maintenance
tidal yarrow
wait.. to get allegory poetics I must queue with a 80lvl class?
lime geode
ah ic
obsidian patio
No Siv.
@tidal yarrow Yes, Allegory and Phantasmagoria are earned from doing level 80 content or certain daily roulettes as level 80 jobs
tidal yarrow
ahh oki
exotic ridge
Im at a leve location how do I start it please?
obsidian patio
Go to your journal and activate the leve
stable herald
Is there a point to using tornado kick as MNK?
obsidian patio
In 99% of cases, no.
stable herald
What's that 1%?
obsidian patio
You basically only use it if you know you'll lose your greased lightning stacks no matter what (like when a boss does an ultimate move and you can't use form shift to keep your stacks) or right at the end of a fight
stable herald
i see
alright
hmm.. I'm trying to remember how to MNK at 70
but i seem to be doing two basic combos?
I don't really mix it?
dapper shadow
You mix it
stable herald
my buffs seem to drop at about the same time-ish?
obsidian patio
you swap between them as needed to keep up the buffs/debuffs
dapper shadow
You dont want to refresh your buffs or refresh the dots early
obsidian patio
Dragon Kick and Twin Snakes every other combo, Demolish every 3rd combo
Your full GCD rotation looks like this
Dragon Kick > Twin Snakes > Demolish
Bootshine > True Strike > Snap Punch
Dragon Kick > Twin Snakes > Snap Punch
Bootshine > True Strike > Demolish
Dragon Kick > Twin Snakes > Snap Punch
Bootshine > True Strike > Snap Punch
it's a wee bit difficult to nail down positionals
but my priority is to get enhanced bootshine on rear, yes?
obsidian patio
yes
stable herald
like, if I mess up everything else, the fact I got bootshine with leaden fist on Rear off is ok still
obsidian patio
Standing right at the point to where flank and rear meet makes hitting positionals a lot easier
!faq positional
zinc orbitBOT
stable herald
Yeah. it's the problem of remembering which is which
leaden ginkgo
So a while ago, I did the really dumb thing where I bought a class and then levelled it. I needed a tank in my wheelhouse, so I bought a level 70 Warrior boost. This was a few months ago and I did all of my trust dungeon levelling as WAR, but I can't help but feel like I seriously missed out on things I should know about the class. Can anyone give some general tips for tanking, especially as WAR?
dapper shadow
Meeting positional is the main mnk thing so not meeting positionals is like alternating fire 1 and fire4 on blm
obsidian patio
!faq tankguide
zinc orbitBOT
obsidian patio
this has a lot of general information if you want to read through it
leaden ginkgo
Awesome, thank you!
tidal yarrow
how do I unlock nier raid?
obsidian patio
The starting quest is "Word About Komra" at Tomra
It may also be "A Scandal in Komra"
tidal yarrow
thanks
how do I turn on that setting to make new gear I get go into inventory and not armor chest?
obsidian patio
character config > item/inventory settings
should be one of the first few options you see in that submenu
I think it's phrased something like "Put newly earned equipment in the armoury" and you'd untick that
wintry chasm
Also there is one for newly crafted gear as well
icy quiver
If my job is level 61, is it matter which ilvl food I use so it will help me leveling?
warped nest
If you got food for free from quest, just use them as you see fit
Don't buy food with Gil out of your pocket
agile laurel
even if you are, just buy raisins from the shops in the main cities
you only need them for the 3%+ exp, nothing more
warped nest
Regarding food ilvl, higher ilvl food has a higher cap on their buff, that's all
icy quiver
some guide say from gold saucer, but it only gives 6 sks
agile laurel
irrelevant tbf
warped nest
Food buff works on percentage, but with a physical cap
agile laurel
just get exp food for the sake of exp
gaunt brook
Since deepshadow gears kinda useless, what should i use phantasmagoria on?
agile laurel
no
warped nest
Nope
agile laurel
@gaunt brook probably the crafting materials tbh, see what sells most and dump em. OR, hold onto them to upgrade your neo-ishgardian with on Tuesday
wintry chasm
^
warped nest
@gaunt brook you can use it to buy mats and resell it in marketboard, but make sure that you check the prices first
gaunt brook
oh ill be able to upgrade my neoishgardian gear?
wintry chasm
@icy quiver I would use it on alts first yes
agile laurel
yes
gaunt brook
huh ill save them then
agile laurel
you can exchange it for 490 crafted gear next patch
gaunt brook
oo
agile laurel
but you will need phantas
gaunt brook
that let me upgrade some of the more expensive to get with allegory items
warped nest
Augmented neo Ishgardian is 10 ilvl higher and it can only meld two slots
It is fine if you don't want to get Allegory/Eden gears
Or don't have time to
gaunt brook
itll work for while i farm those if i ever want to
help me clear eden a bit faster i guess
zinc orbitBOT
icy quiver
ty
crude marten
so uhh lorewise, how'd people beat Leviathan? why didnt it just wreck the platform and kill everyone? we're all in the sea and no one would've stood a chance
obsidian patio
||It was filled with corrupted crystals that weakened his power over the water||
wintry chasm
^
Basically
Which is the same way we ||got to Garuda through her immense gales by weakening the wind by turning it into something else with the power of corrupt crystals||
agile laurel
you can see as much on leviathan's map due to the tinged water around the platform, iirc
silent elm
hello, i was wondering if there will be a pre download patch on the 11th?
crude marten
i see.. debuffs huh. Sorry it was just confusing how such godly beings want to get smacked in the head by adventurers
acoustic osprey
hi i read that cross class skills are removed , so that means i can no longer use thau skills on arcanist job for example?
crude marten
Thanks mates
agile laurel
Basically the reason we beat most primals, outside of god-protagonist power later on, is cheating
acoustic osprey
haven't played since end of beta
agile laurel
we-eell
obsidian patio
@silent elm the patch will become downloadable at some point during the 24-hour maintenance, usually around the halfway point, maybe closer to two-thirds
wintry chasm
^ so you should be fine for patch launch
silent elm
alright! thank you
crude marten
How will we know we're in expansion content? Will there be an icon in game or a big title scrawl?
wintry chasm
@acoustic osprey right so you can't level say, dragoon and get blood for blood and put that on arcanist. Instead all the roles (tanks, healers, melee, etc) all have their own role actions every job in that role can use
obsidian patio
it'll throw the expansion name at you
crude marten
Hahaha i see.. okay, should be goosebump inducing sequence then
distant ridge
Am I blind or is there no way to LFG on this discord?
wintry chasm
distant ridge
Ah, I thought it's only for FCs, oops.
wintry chasm
It'd mainly used for stuff like that
jade quartz
After completing the quest, you can visit your inn room in any main city and view cutscenes from completed quests in “The Unending Journey”.
limpid lantern
Ok ty because it wad the ending scene of 2.4 so it probably has some major stuff
jade quartz
Note that this does not contain all cutscenes, just those with an active camera
limpid lantern
Ty ^^
mild folio
hi i read that cross class skills are removed , so that means i can no longer use thau skills on arcanist job for example?
@acoustic osprey cross skills are removed but some previous existing skills are now available to all casting classes like Swiftcast. Those are called role skills now.
acoustic osprey
then do you guys recommend just leveling 1 class to 60 or something then start on an alt class from level 1, or level both of them equally
because i am still quite early into the game only reached limosa
i don't think the grinding spots are available to me rn to level an alt class fast while my main class is only level 17
jade quartz
Playing one job through to max first would be the most straightforward way of going about it
But if you’re interested in picking up other classes right now then by all means go ahead
acoustic osprey
im not playing on an exp boosted server atm
simple shore
Then i'd suggest sticking with one job
acoustic osprey
so i should just level my thau to 80 and then do alt classes?
jade quartz
There’s not a wrong choice really
simple shore
Basically, if you're on an exp boosted server, you end up getting so far ahead of MSQ that its wasteful almost to not bring more than one job through MSQ at a time.
acoustic osprey
hmm then i guess i will try to play till maybe stormblood and till level 60
then slow down and do an alt class
jade quartz
Sounds good
lavish vortex
hi!, this is the 1st time im gonna do a group treasure map hunt, Zonureskin specifically, do 1 need a party of 8 to do it? and do i need a healer and a tank?
vivid wolf
I'm currently leveling WHM through heavensward, and planning to use SB to level my SAM, would this be a bad idea?
i dont really have a 'main' job to play
jade quartz
@lavish vortex I would recommend a party of at least 3 to be comfortable if you get a portal dungeon. You don’t need 8.
@vivid wolf not a bad idea, go for it. Just be aware that SAM starts at 50 so you’ll need to bridge the ten levels to 60 to be able to do Stormblood with it
simple shore
Zonureskin arent bad but you do pretty much need a tank/heal if you get a portal.
jade quartz
@lavish vortex oh yeah definitely do have a tank and healer though
lavish vortex
thanks!, any other advise? im gonna put a party finder, whats the usual stuff you putor whats the etiquette if theres any?
vivid wolf
my sam is currently lvl 61, as is my whm
simple shore
and all the good loot is inside a portal
Like, you get to the end of a portal you stand to make a million gil if you're lucky
and tahts just off the last chest
lol
vivid wolf
i'm thinking i can get my whm to 70 by doing hw and daily roulettes
jade quartz
@lavish vortex usual way of things is every player brings several maps and you all take turns going around areas and doing them
simple shore
You get crazy good RNG a single portal can be multiple millions of gill
or you can get booted out at the first gate 5 times in a row like i did yesterday
gritty oracle
plus if you do a map party with everyone bringing 2-3 maps, it's always gil positive even without considering loot. Treasure maps are mostly a social activity.
jade quartz
There are two methods of distributing loot from chest: either free-for-all roll or “owner need/others greed” rules
lavish vortex
Nice!, thanks, i hope i get lucky!
lean temple
A question from new player, can we boost from 70 to 80 ‘skip’ ?
jade quartz
I would say owner need is more popular as it’s more fair on average TBH
gritty oracle
nope
gotta play through the msq
Lyon tbh I've never really seen owner need. It's always FFA.
maybe once or twice in pf in passing
agile laurel
crystal either does full FFA or owner outside
jade quartz
Well on primal it’s usually owner need
gritty oracle
ah yeah i'm crystal. Didn't know data centres had their own culture.
simple shore
crystal certainly has a culture But yeah on Primal i always do owner need groups. I see FFA groups sometimes but i dont touch them.
To me the risk is lower with owner need groups
agile laurel
dunno whether to laugh or cry
simple shore
Someone breaks the rules in an owner need group, they're pretty much blacklisted immediately by everyone (and uh, sometimes word gets around too)
zinc orbitBOT
simple shore
But in an FFA group, you can get freeloaders who come in, do other peoples maps, and then when their turn is about to come around "sorry guys gotta go"
opal tree
im a newbie tank, seeing accessories now and im wondering whether i should prioritise crit, direct hit or determination
gritty oracle
Oof, tbh I mostly do maps with my FCs (I'm in one of the swords) so it's a more friendly vibe, with voice chat usually.
jade quartz
Vitality and strength @opal tree
green raft
I generally prefer FFA bc it moves the RNG part to every roll instead of only having shots at a portal (and a good one at that) for your own maps
but I agree that it's easy to take advantage of
jade quartz
Secondary stats don’t matter until 80.
gritty oracle
Is there vit and str on accessories?
opal tree
understood, thank you
jade quartz
Past extremely early levels yes
gritty oracle
tbh until 80 just adhere to "equip recommended gear" Doli
simple shore
I would disagree strongly with that.
green raft
yeah but double check what it puts on you because it can be pretty whack
simple shore
They're asking about a tank. Do not rely on "Reccomended Gear"
until at least level 51
green raft
sometimes you require your brain. with a tank pretty often actually
jade quartz
Recommended gear will be right 90% of the time
simple shore
because ARR gear has a really really bad habit of thinking "oh, its a higher ilvl this is fine for you" and swapping your tank gear out with (what is basically monk gear) and suddenly you lose a bunch of defense
opal tree
i just finished arr, just picking my ironworks accessories & waiting for 5.3 to start the 100quest to hw
jade quartz
You want accessories of fending.
jade quartz
Technically slaying accessories at that level are ok for tanks too because of early gearing weirdness
But you should get into the habit of looking for fending stuff as a tank, as accessories stop being all-class-equippable from level 61.
opal tree
understood, thanks for the insight
crimson crystal
If you're level 52, shouldn't you be wanting the augmented itonworks gear rn?
jade quartz
That’s what they’re buying
crimson crystal
Ah okay
acoustic osprey
do people randomly give tips to newcomers in this game
some guy just randomly spoke to me giving me some tips
crimson crystal
Yeah that's common
acoustic osprey
oh wow
crimson crystal
Normally they ask first lol
agile laurel
depending on their past experiences, some folks like to ask because many people cough especially on crystal cough have this habit of exploding whenever they're picked up on something
simple shore
I regularly tell people who are obviously new when they're doing something wrong.
agile laurel
yep. same
simple shore
People who arent obviously new who are making the same mistakes though? Not worth the effort.
acoustic osprey
im just not used to the friendliness since i mostly played toxic games like dota 2
lel
crimson crystal
I like being corrected because I'm a noob lol
agile laurel
but I've had many instances of being bullied out of groups for 'hey could you maybe not spam tornado kick' so
acoustic osprey
does the game actually get very hard later on
crimson crystal
Extreme trials and savage raids are the hardest
simple shore
Have you played other MMO's?
acoustic osprey
i know im still pretty early into this but everything is clearable
not so much, last played was pso2 JP which i forgot my account details
like 6 years ago
crimson crystal
Yeah I'd say "normal" content never really gets too difficult
You have to seek the challenges
simple shore
Ultimate (the hardest difficulty in the game) on average takes 8 people 100+ hours of working on to get down. But that's like, the pinnacle of pinnacle content, and certainly not mandatory.
Normal content is pretty casual.
acoustic osprey
oh was worried game doesn't get any harder later on
crimson crystal
Where are you in the msq btw?
Dungeons, raids, etc certainly get more interesting as you progress
Like cooler mechanics and you have more spells to juggle
simple shore
If you want challenges, they're there. If you don't, then you dont get them. That's pretty much the way it works.
There's even some fairly hard solo challenges in the game
crimson crystal
Yeah solo instances can get tricky
simple shore
I meant
jade quartz
Oh it certainly gets more engaging than sub-50 early stuff
simple shore
Like Floor 200 POTD
leaden ginkgo
I bought some logograms from the MB but when i go to the logogram machine in pyros, it says i dont have any, am i buying the wrong kind? im level 36
jade quartz
You have to speak to Drake and appraise logograms
leaden ginkgo
ooo, thank you ❤️
acoustic osprey
im just gonna focus on my crafting classes and main job for now
then look for challenges later on
wet cradle
what can I do with phantasmagoria stones when capped?
I don't see what I can buy with them at max lvl and high ilvl
simple shore
Buy crafting mats to sell. Buy Deepshadow gear for glamour. Stay capped because you'll need them to augment Neo-Ishgardian gear in 5.3
Them's the options.
dapper shadow
You can get those dried up ether for grade 3 tinctures if you craft em
wet cradle
neo ishgardian gear? never heard of that
simple shore
Neo-Ishgardian is the 480 crafted battle gear that currently exists.
Which you can see on the MB
wet cradle
ahhh
simple shore
in 5.3, it will be able to be augmented to 490
wet cradle
great thanks! didn't know that
stable herald
How do ya'all MNKs deal with pivoting bosses in stuff like raids?
Example would be the final boss in Lighthouse
stable herald
He spins like a top
simple shore
Hit True North. Hit True North again. Then bitch and moan about it.
agile laurel
if riddle of earth is unlocked then mnk can very nearly get 100% uptime on ignore positionals
stable herald
Like, not even tanks. Just like a swivelling turret
And if the buggers swivel so Im facing flank/front while i have leaden fists, do I attack or reposition
simple shore
In general missing out on an attack is worse than delaying it.
i.e. if you have to run for 2 seconds to get to that positional, you just lost a little over one attack.
Just flat out gone
stable herald
There are SO many times i get so disorientated over what I have up
And I am basically doing quite a lot of movement from flank to rear becuz i cant really see the point between rear and flank
(So many battle effects etc)
kind eagle
simple shore
Turn them off
kind eagle
What would they give
stable herald
But pretty, ya know
kind eagle
if i progress this
stable herald
Iirc, beast tribe
kind eagle
oh
simple shore
Fuck everything about trying to do 8-24 man content on a melee with party/others battle effects on.
Impossible to see your own position
tawny lion
Showered in a rain of !@#$!@#
stable herald
I occasionally achieve the ZONE sometimes where i can nail the positionals pretty well, but thats rather rare. I can do dummies p well tho
novel parcel
How often do we get #730862043376123966 ? I'm yet to participate in one and it looks like fun
simple shore
There's a ton of changes.
You should go read the patch notes
Too much effort to summarize
glad comet
there's a lot to go over, so read the patch notes @finite swift
rich bay
@kind eagle
Yes, the Qitari (gathering) beast tribe. It is one of the 2 quest chains you need to complete to unlock them
verbal temple
just got hte maintenance/patch notification in the launcher for tuesday. How long does a new patch/downtime normally last ?
simple shore
In this case, 24 hours
rich bay
Aug. 10, 2020 10:00 to Aug. 11, 2020 10:00 (GMT)
@verbal temple
verbal temple
ill just have to play extra untill then 😄
stuck minnow
hi so this could go in recruitment but i dont see the point in making a big post just wondering if anyone has some free time and could help me run unsync arr extreme trials for the mounts i tried to solo but cant im only lvl 72 but i really want a new mount mainly the nightmare mount if anyone is happy to help me send me a pm
zinc orbitBOT
royal lichen
i'm playing through the Stormblood msq, but the quests aren't giving me enough xp to lvl up. The upper levels of PoTD have very long queue times, and I don't know how to unlock heaven on high. My dailies only seem to get me up one level (SCH/SMN lvl 64). What do you guys do to level up?
kind eagle
@rich bay ty
wintry chasm
Firstly Palace of the Dead is only good xp up to level 60
Heaven on High requires you to do a level 63 main story quest and you have to reach floor 50 of palace of the dead
If you really can't do both just do roulettes
royal lichen
@wintry chasm Thank you
royal lichen
thank you
past frigate
is there a rank after captain for GC ?
wintry chasm
No
tranquil sentinel
ok when I install the overlay plugin it says the access to a C Disc location is denied
@crystal shoal In ACT, just go to Plugins > Get Plugins > [FFXIV+others] Overlay Plugin > Download and Enable. That's all you have to do. Remove any other shitty Overlay Plugin versions you installed.
@finite swift He absolutely shouldn't follow the TomRichter link; it's incredibly oudated.
past frigate
so i will just be captain in adder ,then switch back to my 2nd LT in flames ,raising it up to captain and go to maelstorm to be captain for the achievement
wintry chasm
Sure?
leaden ginkgo
Is the house timer currently off
faint flare
Yes
leaden ginkgo
Im a new player (to mmos entirely), and I have no idea what data center I should join?
does it really matter?
For NA region
agile laurel
Primal and Aether are more progression raiding focused
gritty oracle
Aether is more serious and raiding focused, Crystal is more laid back and casual, lots of RP. Idk about Primal.
agile laurel
Crystal has comparatively less focus on raiding and a bit more on RP
wintry chasm
Aether and Primal are the same thing
Basically
Only one that actually has a different reputation is Crystal
agile laurel
Although it is worth noting crystal is a self-fulfilling prophecy of 'not great' so take that as you will
wintry chasm
Ehh not really.
leaden ginkgo
So I wont do crystal, I guess then I'll just flip a coin between aether and primal?
wintry chasm
I wouldn't call it self fulfilling
agile laurel
*primal i think you meant
leaden ginkgo
yeah sorry
agile laurel
but yeah honestly that'd suffice
agile laurel
It kinda is cal, cause everyone says 'oh crystal is the RP place, don't go there to raid' and thus it never, never gets better but that's beside the point
leaden ginkgo
Ok Ill just play on Primal, its not a huge decision really right? Although does one have like a bigger player count or something?
kind eagle
So im lv80 sam
and lv76 msq
rip xp
i cant use other class to claim the msq xp right
those under lv
faint flare
They gotta be equal level to turn it in
faint meadow
Yea
I was actuallly hoping they had 70s and could level them up real quick
And continue msq as the other job
Lot easier to go from between 70-76 than say 50 or 60 to 76
@agile laurel also that kinda mentality is what makes me wish XIV had RP specific servers and normal servers like WoW
faint meadow
Oh well, you might have trouble for a few days then unless you don't mind giving up the xp to finish the story
Bard wouldn't be able to hit 76 in a day and neither would Gladiator
wintry chasm
Mmm, your highest is level 60 (Gunbreaker and Dancer)
wet cradle
remember me that I will never do wanderer's palace with NPC's
this is horrible
never experienced so much frustration
agile laurel
Regarding red mage.
If, for example, I'm finishing my melee combo and black mana is lower, but I already have a verfire proc, is it worth going for the 20% to get a verstone or overwriting the verfire proc to not imbalance mana
Second - remind me again what fleche and C6 count as for the purposes of embolden?
wintry chasm
I wouldn't bother, 4 levels worth of main story isn't worth it tbh @kind eagle
raw solstice
fleche and C6 are physical damage, unaffected by your embolden (but affected by another RDM's embolden)
agile laurel
thought so. So cramming those in personal embolden windows is not a thing
kind eagle
oh
raw solstice
ideally you try to fix your procs before heading into melee to get a guaranteed proc--you have a bit of room that you can build extra mana to try to resolve that. Absent that, yeah you'd rather just go for the chance of a proc instead of overwriting one--you're not going to be too far imbalanced to inhibit mana generation
agile laurel
Define fixing procs? Like, getting rid of them all?
zinc orbitBOT
raw solstice
oh wait, you said at end of melee combo
agile laurel
Yeah
raw solstice
ideally you try to address that before melee combo
agile laurel
Like, I'm deciding between verflare/holy, I have a verfire, I have a 100% chance to get a verfire but a 20% to get a stone
raw solstice
yeah, so ideally you would have used your verfire proc before melee combo, or otherwise try to get your other mana higher before melee combo
agile laurel
Right
raw solstice
but if you're in that very specific situation at the end of your melee combo already, you just go for the 20%
agile laurel
that's fair enough
rdm was technically one of the first jobs I picked up so I'm still addressing a few shitty habits
strange coral
At 80 you start getting the endgame tomestones instead of XP from roulettes, so you have to decide which one you want more
novel parcel
I'm blind, where is the option to turn other peep's effects off? so I can see AOE's and stuff better
novel parcel
oki doki
agile laurel
character config., sorry
agile laurel
no. it's allegory
strange coral
Allagan Tomestone of Allegory, you trade them for ilvl 490 gear
agile laurel
for buying the crystarium gears
strange coral
Neo-Ishgardian is 480 and can be bought on the market board or crafted
strange coral
Eulmore, but you have to finish the Shadowbringer story before it becomes available
agile laurel
arguably dps has less management requirement than tanks
cause it's just follow behind and kill things
unless you want to claim tank privilege in getting hit by mechanics
strange coral
That's up to you. You can start stocking up allegory now though. So you can buy some gear when you finish ShB
kind eagle
but i cant check the shop to see is it good tho
faint meadow
@nova wraith you'll be highly valued as NIN unless you really suck regardless. Trick Attack is your always use skill cause it makes everyone else happy
Though that doesn't mean yyo should be lazy about pushing great numbers
strange coral
@grizzled crater Did she buy the game on steam?
faint meadow
Also get ACT and FFlogs setup
You're gonna need em if people question your ability in pfs
Ways to track and upload your DPS on raid kills
For most PFs it's sort of like a resume
Way to say you're not crap at your job
Party finder groups
kind eagle
Do you guys have this problem
faint meadow
Just assuming you're not in a static which is also possible
kind eagle
you played a class too much till you forget how to use the other class
faint meadow
Yes lmao
past frigate
where to start the resistance relic quest chain?
little swift
Starts in kugane
faint meadow
When I pull certain classes out of hibernation I get a lil rusty
little swift
Assuming you meet the prereqs
kind eagle
yeh
faint meadow
Haha no problem
past frigate
oh well time to go alliance raid unlocking
agile laurel
idyllshire
arctic holly
So like how does I use gun breaker I mean I was confused when I got dancer and then moved around everything and I'm fine now but like when switched to gunbreaker to look at the skills I was a little scarred of how many skills there where
little swift
You can grab it as soon as you get to idyllshire
Break it all down arastal
Gnb has 2 single target combos
1 regular combo
And 1 continuation combo that requires use of their gauge, the cartridge system
They also have burst strike as a cartridge spender as well
!faq gnbguide
zinc orbitBOT
agile laurel
gunbreaker only has a lot of buttons because it has a lot of combos
little swift
What specifically is confusing you?
agile laurel
once you understand which/what they are it makes as much sense as any other tank
little swift
If its overwhelming you should approach it the same as you did with dancer
Move everything around
And adjust until comfy
There's just more to move
agile laurel
basically just do solid barrel combo to get carts, burn on wicked talon combo or burst strike if Gnashing Fang isn't available
yes
yep
strange coral
But you said it runs fine outside of steam? It shouldn't unless it's the non-steam version.
arctic holly
You know what I'ma just continue playing as dancer until I feel I've played the game enough to the point where I won't miss click abilities cause I do that pretty often
I'm not used to ps4 controls
Or keyboard but keyboard easier cause I can click
little swift
@nova wraith hismena for the tokens needed for the weapon. Bertana to trade them
azure kettle
Anyone ever play NIN with controller? Just wanna know how hard it is with controller if at all
arctic holly
I played ninja for a while with controller it's actually not that bad and I actually preffered controller rather than keyboard
open coral
I have @azure kettle if you set it up right it’s not hard
strange coral
Yea, that makes sense. I don't know much about the version check error though. Just that it could be a connection issue, so VPN might help, or connecting via a hotspot to get the launcher to update. Someone else might know more.
azure kettle
@open coral got a link?
open coral
A link? For what?
azure kettle
Wrong chat
open coral
Lol
kind eagle
Do Allagan Tomestone of Allegory
gives the best item for now
or is there better stuff
open coral
Savage gear is higher ilevel, but outside of that Crystarium gear is “best” right now
open coral
Eden Verse
leaden ginkgo
Is savage content something you just do and learn along the way or are you expected to know the mechanics to some extent beforehand
open coral
You should at least have watched a video before heading into Savage for the first time
leaden ginkgo
Im looking at eden savage but im intimidated / still learning the normal ones
kind eagle
so i still have time
kind eagle
to complete shb msq
open coral
Plenty of time
little swift
You always have time to
kind eagle
lv76 rn msq
kind eagle
Alright
open coral
If you haven’t finished the msq, you shouldn’t be worrying about Savage gear or BiS
little swift
@leaden ginkgo take it at your own pace savage isn't nearly as intimidating as you think
We have a savage loot faq
!faq savageloot
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
Thank you kindly
little swift
I'm progging through this tier pretty late too
kind eagle
BIS?
little swift
Don't sweat it
kind eagle
oh
open coral
With the optimal stats for min-maxing your job
Again, not something most people need to worry about
kind eagle
even tho having the best gear those item sync hurts
turbid dragon
does the moogle thing end on the 10th
kind eagle
and the Allagan Tomestone of Allegory
open coral
BiS is really only necessary if you’re planning to progress in highest level endgame content
kind eagle
hard to farm?
little swift
9th actually @turbid dragon since we go into maintenance on the 10th for 24hours
glad comet
nope
kind eagle
checking the daily roulette
open coral
If you’re just planning to play normal content, you can get away with not having BiS gear
kind eagle
if gives kinda less
glad comet
3 days of lvl 80/expert roulette, and you would have maxed out the weekly limit
@kind eagle
kind eagle
oh
little swift
There are level 80/expert roulette that awards stuff
glad comet
you havent factored in the extra allegory from the dungeon itself
little swift
Ofc you don't get as much when you don't have those unlocked
open coral
You can only earn 450 allegory per week right now
kind eagle
expert roulette is when i cleared shb?
glad comet
no
open coral
When you’ve unlocked the appropriate level 80 dungeons
glad comet
or rather, you need to clear the story dungeons
simple imp
small question,if i want to buy ffxiv,buy from the square enix website or the mog station website?
kind eagle
oh
kind eagle
wonder what are the appropriate onces
open coral
It’s effectively the same @simple imp
kind eagle
alrigh
open coral
Current the required dungeons for expert roulette are Anamnesis anyder and grand cosmos
median locust
Both are MSQ
leaden ginkgo
Anamnesis isnt msq
median locust
yes it is
open coral
Yeah it is
median locust
Akadaemia isn't
strange coral
Tuesday's patch, Cosmos is being moved to 80 roulette and new the MSQ dungeon will be in expert
leaden ginkgo
I was thinking of akadaemia
median locust
easy mistake to make to be fair
leaden ginkgo
On that note what's the second dungeon to unlock that one thing?
I forgot what it was
But it just shows
???
???
As the requirements and akadaemia is one of them
open coral
Grand cosmos
simple imp
also which class should i play if i am new? machinist looks the coolest,but i want to consult you guys too
little swift
Twinning amaurot
glad comet
@simple imp
little swift
Akademia
leaden ginkgo
Probably that yea
glad comet
whatever you like man
crimson crystal
@simple imp play whatever you want tbh. Honestly don't listen to people that are like "this class is highest dps" or whatever. Really does not matter at all
kind eagle
Amaze how yall remember such names
simple imp
ok
leaden ginkgo
I have expert dungeon unlocked but im not sure what the other thing was
open coral
@simple imp you won’t be able to play MCH from level 1, but ARC (archer) uses the same equipment
little swift
Amaze how yall remember such names
@kind eagle you learn them as you go
simple imp
issue is you cant pick up machinist until Heavensward
@glad comet i am buying the complete
glad comet
but you cant reach the area to grab it
crimson crystal
still need to get to hw in msq
glad comet
@simple imp
spice knot
so I just installed the free trial to try it out with a friend, not only we started really far away from each other but we cant party up? is that correct?
glad comet
not until you reach that expansion
open coral
You can’t pick up MCH until you reach the first city in HW
simple imp
not until you reach that expansion
@glad comet ah
open coral
Yeah @spice knot
glad comet
There are restrictions with the free trial
little swift
@spice knot someone on the full game can party you guys up. You'll meet when you guys do more main story
spice knot
so whats the point of a free trial? to play as a single player? so disappointed I cant play with my friend lol
open coral
To get a feel for whether you want the full game or not
wintry chasm
point of the free trial is to play without a sub and try the game
spice knot
but its an MMO, you should try it with friends :/
wintry chasm
you can play with your friend but if you want to party up/queue for content together like dungeons you'll need someone to help
spice knot
at what lvl could you group? how long is it 100% single player?
wet cradle
can the The Weapon's Refrain (Ultimate) be done unsync?
open coral
They have social restrictions on free trials to minimize the impact of RMT bots
wintry chasm
It stops being 100% singleplayer when you accept your first quest
after that you can see everyone
@wet cradle ultimates can't be unsynced
they are designed to not be cheesed
wet cradle
wut
wintry chasm
They are ULTIMATE for a reason
wet cradle
b...but the weapons are so sweet
spice knot
but like, given that he is in Black Shroud and Im in La Noscea when could we play together?
wet cradle
hmm
glad comet
Nope.
wintry chasm
oh
glad comet
Ultimate for a reason man, gotta work for it.
wintry chasm
a level 15 main story quest will take you to the other cities
leaden ginkgo
^
wintry chasm
so when one of you gets that far you can just go to the other cities
wet cradle
are there any pugs for ultimates?
wintry chasm
No
wet cradle
I think there are more than just this The Weapon's Refrain (Ultimate)?
wintry chasm
Ultimates are too hard for pugs
open coral
Specifically after you complete the quest “The X Envoy”
wintry chasm
you want to get a static
glad comet
Nope.
clever cave
Well yes... but theyre rare and only ppl that clear / can clear pug
glad comet
Its highly recommended for a static.
faint flare
There 3 ultimates
wet cradle
thanks
wet cradle
great but how do I even unlock them?
glad comet
deltascape 4.0 savage clear
little swift
They have prerequisites
faint flare
Do o4s, o8s and E4s
glad comet
sigmascape 4.0 savage clear
faint flare
Respectively
wet cradle
ah got it
little swift
Usually completion of the final floor of a savage tier
glad comet
e4s
wintry chasm
for ||unending coils of Bahamut|| you have to finish O4S, for UWU you need to beat O3S and for ||Alexander Ultimate|| you want to finish E4S
wet cradle
can you do the savage raids unsync except e4s?
little swift
Their related savage tier
wintry chasm
Yes
glad comet
you can
faint flare
On average they take over 100 hours to clear, for ultimates
wintry chasm
It just needs completion
glad comet
still really hard
wintry chasm
Well
wet cradle
thanks a lot guys
wintry chasm
I wouldn't say very hard
but you'd need to know some mechanics yes for the level 70 savages
glad comet
i tried o4s once
wet cradle
that's optimistic
glad comet
unsynced
wet cradle
thanks 😄
little swift
A lot of older savage can be trivialized a bit by ilvl
Lots of mechs can be skipped
wintry chasm
mmm
little swift
But some are not avoidable
open coral
Or cheesed
glad comet
mhm
wintry chasm
I think when my group did O4S there is only really one hard mechanic you have to do which gets repeated twice?
clever cave
Well considering you can do kefka wit 5 ppl and titan before carousels its pretty free
Still might prog a bit anyway depend on group
faint flare
O4s dies before decisive battle and before Grand cross omega, gotta do Alpha and delta
Ofc varies on group number and how many deaths
viscid scroll
Some qns about extracting materia: Can i repeatedly extract materia from items whenever they hit 100% spiritbond?
open coral
Yes
Every time something gets 100% you can extract
You’ll only get one materia per 100%
viscid scroll
Cool, thanks. So i should just extract whenever i can then
open coral
Yes
zinc orbitBOT
open coral
No reason not to
crimson crystal
what level crafter do you need to be to do that btw?
open coral
You don’t need a crafter level
viscid scroll
Don't think you need crafter to extract. just a quest
crimson crystal
oh okay. I might not have done that quest then
leaden ginkgo
does the race of your character matter and if so what race should I pick for a new mmo player?
little swift
Its pretty early in msq
crimson crystal
race does not matter, no
open coral
Race doesn’t matter
crimson crystal
do whatever looks cool to you
open coral
It’s all aesthetic
leaden ginkgo
oh ok just checking
glad comet
Choose what you like best.
crimson crystal
yeah I had some friends who were only playing au ra for the "stat boost" and it made me so sad
open coral
Lol what
wintry chasm
The only thing that remotely matters is starting class since that is what you start as and picks what city state you start in but even that is just "up to you"
glad comet
It's almost unnoticeable.
little swift
Stats work in tiers anyways
open coral
It’s not at all relevant
wintry chasm
It's so irrelevant that it literally wouldn't do a thing
little swift
1 point will almost never make or break
wintry chasm
p-probably
glad comet
barely any difference
open coral
90k
crimson crystal
Damn son
little swift
And party bonus
open coral
Tanks 
wintry chasm
This is why I am worst mentor
crimson crystal
I hope with 5.3 my whm can break 100k health lol
little swift
You do in parties
crimson crystal
Probably could now, but I'm a causal
sullen pulsar
Can you replay MSQs, I really like the HW story and wouldn't find playing through it again
open coral
I’ve hit 100k as WHM with party buff
faint flare
Yes
crimson crystal
Yes, new game+
open coral
That’s what ng+ is for
sullen pulsar
how do you do that
wintry chasm
Unlocks in Vesper's Bay
sullen pulsar
I just finished SB
open coral
Then it’s an option in the duty category of the main menu after you’ve unlocked it
wintry chasm
^
sullen pulsar
will check when I get ingame. thanks
carmine bobcat
Alright so I'm level 29 now and just got to join a GC like 2 levels ago and im wondering whats a quick way for me to get some seals?
sullen pulsar
Fate
open coral
You get 300 for doing the next quest in the msq
carmine bobcat
Fates give seals?
open coral
But also your first leveling roulette of the day and FATEs
carmine bobcat
I need 2000 for my mount stuff lol
open coral
2000?
open coral
You need 200 to get the Chocobo license and the game give those to you
open coral
Literally just do the next msq
faint flare
Yes
carmine bobcat
then im just stupid haha, i got 1700 so
open coral
You’ll get 300
faint flare
Dont read outdated info
shadow bay
any monk players?
cloud badger
Hey all, I'm curious if BLM gets any faster with spellcasting and if there is any way to keep your fire x3 going faster even after swapping to ice? I've started to notice if I withhold a Fire III when the proc activates, swap to ice for MP regen and lightning casting then hit the Fire III proc I get my stacks back. Is that a good way to do it or am I losing DPS somewhere from this? Im a pretty new player :)
little swift
You get skill later that lets you cast things faster every so often
!action leylines
zinc orbitBOT
Powered by XIVAPI
little swift
And lots of popular endgame blm builds involve getting decently high spellspeed
So you won't be too slow
Using firestarter procs for free return to astral fire 3 is fine for now if the proc wasnt going to expire during this time
But the proc is also free damage
So it's sorta up to you to gauge the situation imo
wintry chasm
Yeah
little swift
Later on you'll get to switch between the phases with a reduced cost on opposite element spells so you'll not have to worry too much about that
wintry chasm
If you get a fire 3 proc in your very last fire fine, but I wouldn't save a proc if you can still cast more fire 1s in case you get another proc
also leylines makes you faster when you get that
cosmic pilot
Can I login with a new account on paid/full game on PS4?
cloud badger
Ok I think I just have to advance MSQ to get leylines. I just beat the main story and the imperials and finding lots of level 50 new quests that have opened up. Ive been pretty tempted by red mage too, do they end up using their sword a whole lot more in the later levels? So far it seems their sword is only for when the enchantments kick in after 30 Black and white
cosmic pilot
So I play with free trial
little swift
If you already own the game on another platform you need the license for ps4 registered onto your account to play on ps4
agile laurel
Basically your use of the 3 to switch between fire and ice is corrrect
Blizzard 3 and Fire 3 both are used for phase switching
in single target anyway
little swift
Leylines is a skill from the heavensward jobquests
Youre probably a ways off from reaching heavensward msq
agile laurel
Beside that, you should just try to spend MP on fire as efficiently as you can, be that via fire 1 or fire 4 whichever you've unlocked
wintry chasm
You only really use your sword for the FULL melee combo when you reach 80/80+ magic (also the aoe move) and some ogcd stuff like corps-a-corps and displacement and stuff. Outside of that Fleche and Contra sixe is magic swords? @cloud badger
agile laurel
And you haven't yet got to the point of enochian
uh are we not black mage
not red mage
Oh no I see
little swift
He asked 2 different questions
agile laurel
Sorry, yeah
my bad
but yeah, red mage always but always uses enchanted melee
so it's either the 3 step melee combo, or enchanted moulinet
and enchanted reprise but... yeah
wintry chasm
Can I login with a new account on paid/full game on PS4?
So I play with free trial
If you have an account on PS4 that has the full game you can't use the free trial on that mogstation account/characters
You COULD make a completely new PSN account and mogstation account and use that as a free trial but nothing between your two accounts would cross over @cosmic pilot