i thought i was i general
#questions-and-help
ionic hazel
median locust
Get a tank or healer friend to queue with you, or don't play DPS, is how you get better queue times
ionic hazel
mb mb
small atlas
so what quest starts the line for nirvana WHM weapon?
vapid mulch
Would anyone know when the patch notes come out?
median locust
Nirvana Zeta? That's ARR yeah
I think someone said preliminary patch notes were coming out on friday
and the full notes during maintenance
vapid mulch
Ah okay thank you!
near gorge
@median locust guess have to wait longer xD dont have any friends in this game , went over from Tera
median locust
you learn to live with it as a dps main
twilit abyss
found it' it's not the praetorium theme as kael claimed it was
median locust
small atlas
oh so i still have to grind through this stupid books? for some reason i heard that i could skip some stuff(im at atma)
thanks btw
vocal shell
yes
small atlas
fudge nuggets
median locust
you can skip the first step of the lv60 relic with a fully finished lv50 relic
but it's not worth the time
the first lv60 step takes like an hour
fathom token
Former WoW player since vanilla, any suggestion on what to make for my first character?
median locust
Depends what you like to play
small atlas
i got happy for a second that i didnt have to do this
thanks for all the help anyways
fathom token
Prefer melee 🙂
median locust
but know that if you hate your class, you can switch whenever you want after level 10 with no downside
Lancer or Pugilist are melee
you can also pick up Rogue pretty early on after first creating your character
twilit abyss
Lancer/Pugilist
median locust
and Samurai unlocks at level 50 if you own the expansions
fathom token
Awesome, Lancer sounds good! I'll give that a shot
twilit abyss
I'm sort of confused by rogues are they actually melee
cobalt narwhal
so does greed only proc if nobody needs
twilit abyss
@cobalt narwhal yes
jade quartz
Yes
median locust
Yes they just happen to have some skills that have range and look magical
jade quartz
And rogues are melee
cobalt narwhal
ive been passing on everything cause i didnt wanna fuck anyones loot rip
median locust
It rolls between everyone that Needed. If NOBODY Needed, then it rolls for Greed.
fathom token
Also, any suggestions on a Data Center? Dunno if there's a reddit guild or not
twilit abyss
what region?
fathom token
East Coast USA
median locust
Aether or Primal if you're planning to maybe raid
twilit abyss
sorry, can't help. :p
jade quartz
Primal or aether if you want to raid, Crystal for roleplay
North American datacentres are all in the same location
little swift
subreddit does not have a guild that it runs
fathom token
Boo, lol
cobalt narwhal
wait i joined a rp dc?
jade quartz
Not for different time zones or coastal areas
little swift
the members of staff are all on different worlds anyways
cobalt narwhal
yikes
twilit abyss
my condolences
cobalt narwhal
how much is a transfer
twilit abyss
as long as you're not on Balmung
jade quartz
$18 usd
tawdry onyx
Hello, i was wondering if anyone new a good guide for easy mounts to get with pictures. I'm level 43 and wan't to know if theirs any mounts i can pick up fairly easily. but the guide i could find has every mount. and its a bit of a hassle trying work out which ones are easy to get and which ones are bleh
cobalt narwhal
im on mateus, only joined cause there were 3 bonus xp worlds
and the other ones were full when i tried
median locust
You can still raid on Crystal, it's just not as active of a raid scene
cobalt narwhal
😢
twilit abyss
full only means you can't create a character during peak hours
vocal shell
@tawdry onyx this one has pictures and how to get them https://playerassist.com/game-guides/ff14-mounts-final-fantasy-mounts-2020/
twilit abyss
(i think)
twilit abyss
oh wow
median locust
@tawdry onyx https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TZiVFt_mNk
Video footage of every single mount + how to get them
I like this vid
vocal shell
^ that works too
zinc orbitBOT
median locust
Yes
vocal shell
yes
median locust
not 3x
median locust
But 100% increased exp
fathom token
2x, sorry, lol
shrewd owl
stars on the server name are preferred servers
celest herald
is there a guide out there for the most efficient way to meld 75 materia onto this scroll for the zodiac quest T.T
little swift
but its from all sources to all jobs/classes under level 70
tawdry onyx
Mainly wanted one that diddn't have every mount, just the easy ones
median locust
Buy a bunch of tier 1 materias, meld them till you can't. Buy tier 2 materias, meld them till you can't. Etc.
little swift
@celest herald its mostly slam whatever you can from g1 until you can't anymore
then g2
median locust
Sell what you didn't use afterwards
cobalt narwhal
I can only join a FC on my home world right?
little swift
yes
vocal shell
yes
celest herald
so if a meld fails i lose the alexandrite?
short sparrow
I'm doing MSQ Aether on Demand.
I found 3/4 Inconspicuously Suspicious Items.
The fourth one is hiding really well. Hints?
median locust
@celest herald You only lose the materia
celest herald
ahh okay thx
raw solstice
@short sparrow there's one up high
short sparrow
Thank you, that's what I thought but still didn't find it yet.
raw solstice
if you'd like I could give you a bit more of info, but you can probably find it searching around looking up if you'd prefer
short sparrow
I will hunt for a bit, thank you.
raw solstice
yup no problem, enjoy and good luck
small atlas
sorry if I'm being repetitive but i get anxious about misunderstanding stuff. so for zodiac its atma>animus>novus>nexus>zodiac braves>zodiac zeta. the zodiac braves weapons are just an upgrade to the nexus weapons? not an entirely separate thing.
thanks again
median locust
raw solstice
yeah it's just an upgrade process through each step/stage of the relic as you've listed
small atlas
ok cool. i understand 100% now after 10 years. ty
crimson crystal
Which chest in the aery does lesser panda drop from? wanna know if I need to be running the whole dungeon lol
twilit arch
final chest
tulip garnet
Do you need to do the Zodiac and Anima weapons to get the Resistance ones?
median locust
No
twilit arch
no
median locust
Separate relic chains
median locust
Relics of different levels are completely separate
Only exception is you can use a completed lv50 one to skip the first step of the 60 one, but it's not worth it, and you don't have to
short sparrow
@raw solstice found it, and wow it's really easy once you catch sight of where it is from a distance.
raw solstice
sure is yup haha
fathom token
The only world with bonus exp is not accepting new characters -.-
shrewd owl
yeah u gotta wait for the server to not be congested to make a new character
median locust
Means too many people are online, you can wait till less people are online
usually works well in the middle of the night, or early in the morning
crimson crystal
@short sparrow thankfully not much of that after arr lol
short sparrow
I can almost smell Heavensward! It's in my sights!
Other than MSQs is there anything else I should / have to do before moving into the expansion?
short sparrow
How do I unlock those... I've done one raid so far, I forget which it was called. Not Coil.
ionic elbow
Hello , I want to know which Materia to go for as dragoon in order
Critical Hit is max limit , should I go for direct hit or dete ?
median locust
Critical Hit Rate > Direct Hit Rate > Determination > Skill Speed
If not level 80, ignore substats, go for item level
median locust
If you can fit in Crit, go crit
If not, go DH
If not, go Det
that's how it goes
short sparrow
@median locust Thank you, I will go and find that soon. I've done some 
but are there any other specifics you think are important to get done ASAP?
median locust
There's a ton of lv50 dungeons you can do but none of them are really mandatory
but they're still fun
ionic elbow
Should all materia be lv8 or is lv6 alright ? ( lv6 is 40 , lv8 is 60 )
median locust
if you don't feel like continuing MSQ, they're a nice break
6 is alright, but make sure to have 6's in the last slots
Because when you remove materia, you always remove the last one
so if you wanna replace them with 8's later, you don't accidentally break the 8's you already have in it
white ether
Hey is there a good video or image or gnb rotation
median locust
Cause 6's can't break, but 8's have a 60% chance to break when you remove them from gear
ionic elbow
I heard all materia breaks if you removed them
median locust
Nope
white ether
Also the tonberry dungeon is my favorite
median locust
Tiers 1 through 6 never break
Tier 7's have a 20% chance to break
Tier 8's have 60% chance to break
!faq gnbguide
zinc orbitBOT
mossy current
How rare is the unhidden leather map
white ether
Yeah when ||the dragon took them from you in the midgar dungeon||@median locust
short sparrow
12 raids sdfasdf
short sparrow
Wait no you said 3 24 man raids too, OMG I will never get most of this stuff done. XD
median locust
Except for A Realm Reborn, there's 13 raids and only the higher difficulty
and an even higher difficulty for 4 of those
ARR was weird
short sparrow
Well it was... not the first really, but still kinda the first.
median locust
Nobody does the Coils synced though, don't queue for those lol
grab a level 80 or two to get carried through them instead if you care about its story
Which is pretty good btw
short sparrow
My FC have said they might walk me through the coils.
median locust
It's pretty important actually
Else at one point in the MSQ you'll be like "hey who're you"
white ether
So wait do you count the raids against primals as raids?
white ether
So primal are trials?
median locust
Trials are a single boss, a lot of the time MSQ related but not all the time
grave totem
hello!! anyone know what's the best way to level up my anima weapon? i am on the 2nd to the last step, the one after you do 3 dungeons and submit 15 pneumatics
median locust
Raids can be a little more, and it's part of a series
grave totem
it says i need to do events with my weapon equipped
median locust
@grave totem If you can get a party, do Eyes of the Creator (Savage) (A9S) unsynced with a handful of people over and over
You'll be done in like 90 minutes
if you're gonna do it solo, do Brayflox' Longstop (Hard)
over and over, but it's way slower
grave totem
ohh okay thanks!
i dont have a party 😦 i dont have many friends lol ! ill do brayflox then 😄 like around how many timeS?
median locust
I've never done it that way but I heard it's the most efficient solo way, honestly lol
also you can make a party finder to find people
There usually are a handful of other people doing the same thing
grave totem
i see. does fate events counts towards the aether tho? because im also working on my eureka armor / weapons. i was wondering if i equip my staff doing those i can do 2 birds with 1 stone?
or just dungeons?
median locust
Lv70 stuff doesn't count
It's only lv50 dungeons or Heavensward content
so lv60 max
I'm not sure if Fates work
grave totem
Oh i see :( thanks!
short sparrow
So the Legacy of Allag, I can't see it on my map... or in my completed quests, but maybe I'm not looking in the right place.
median locust
Have you beaten the base game MSQ?
not the patches but just the base game
like have you beat Praetorium
short sparrow
Yes, definitely. I'm in like patch 2.4 or something.
median locust
Should be this guy next to the Mor Dhona aetheryte
you might have already picked it up though
short sparrow
Yeah, which section would it be under if I completed it already, in the sidequest list?
median locust
median locust
All good, lol
mossy tartan
Crafters don’t have any shadowbringers job quests?
median locust
The Crystalline Mean acts as their job quests
mossy tartan
thank you
zinc orbitBOT
twilit arch
Something to note though the crystalline mean quests are shared between crafters/gatherers
gsm/bsm/arm, ltw/wvr/crp, cul/alc, bot/min and fish has its own
so you're going to have to pick and choose which one you're going to do for each. general recommendations are gsm/wvr/cul for crafters
though it largely doesn't matter at this point with restoration.
mossy tartan
What is the name of the website that shows you gear that share the same model?
median locust
garlandtools
mossy tartan
so you're going to have to pick and choose which one you're going to do for each. general recommendations are gsm/wvr/cul for crafters
@twilit arch it’s fine, I’m only leveling weaver to 80 followed by botanist (for the time being) Ishgard restoration gives so much exp that leveling others wouldn’t be that much of a problem for me
dry prairie
if i join a free company, i must be on their world? or just data center?
strange coral
@dry prairie Same world
dry prairie
oh
strange coral
@ionic hazel 30
dry prairie
tyty
small atlas
is there any quick way to doing the zodiac weapons or am i stuck with these stupid books?
vocal shell
you have to finish the books
thorny bluff
I've been seeing a lot of people specifically doing level 5 FATE stuff at level 50+, is there a long-term grind that involves doing stuff like that, or is it just for cheevos?
patent trellis
Hi i want to download the game before the 11th but the launcher told me to enter a key to be able to download the game, i even tried with a friend account who had not this problem
zinc orbitBOT
patent trellis
but will i have to download the full launcher atfer the 11th ?
twilit arch
I guess i should ask, are you on the trial or the full game
patent trellis
In july 2019 i use this account to try the game
I downloaded this, yours have _ft at the end
twilit arch
if you haven't bought the game, then just use the link i posted. its the trial launcher
patent trellis
Ok
I will be okay when the game will extend his "free trial" in 5 days ? Or will i need to download the game once again ?
twilit arch
You won't need to download the game again, you'll just need to download the update (like everyone else)
you only need to download the launcher again is if you're upgrading from trial to full game, since trial launcher and full game launcher aren't the same
patent trellis
Ok that's working, thanks 👍
frank wigeon
Hey will bozja be released on the 11th or sometime after?
twilit arch
it'll release later
simple shore
After
gray sage
Can you bind hotbar actions to the PS4 chatpad?
For example, say that I want to save space for the 32+ Cross Hot Bar. Would I be able to assign Mount/ Dismount to Hot Bar 1 Button 1 and assign HB1B1 to lets say "1" and if I press 1 on the chatpad would I mount/ dismount?
nova umbra
how do you ping a PF?
delicate stone
just started crafters and noticed all the skills so far are exactly the same... are all crafters the same (aside from what they craft)?
sage plaza
yuppers
delicate stone
ah, that makes things easier! though I kind of wish they all shared the same hotbar then
stiff osprey
can the scholar cast spells through eos?
my friend was telling me about a rathalos strat where you can circumvent some mechanic by casting adlo via eos
nova umbra
anyone?... anyone know how to link a PF in chat?
stiff osprey
but i'm a level 60~ scholar and have never seen anything like that
vocal shell
@nova umbra there should be an icon beside the pf message
warped nest
Your friend has incorrect info
vocal shell
something that looks like a chat bubble
click that and it should show up in chat as <pfinder>
warped nest
Even if Scholar fairy can heal through the ex rathalos debuff
There are no way to cast Adlo through a fairy
In ex rathalos trial or any other trials/raids/dungeons
nova umbra
ty anna
remote lintel
is steam having some lag now?
simple shore
If you're talking about in-game lag
stiff osprey
@warped nest ty
just wanted to make sure i wasn't missing some crucial mechanic this whole time
vocal shell
alot of people have been complaining about lag
simple shore
I'll copy-paste what i said in another channel
"idk about the other DC's, but ive been seeing widespread reports of connection issues on Primal - though based on what testing i did, its most likely not FF14's fault, some node taking a shit somewhere more likely. I imagine it could be impacting Crystal/Aether too. Might explain some stuff."
violet star
ive been lagging pretty badly too
stiff osprey
@remote lintel steam servers completely fell over about an hour ago
remote lintel
i see
simple shore
TL;DR on my scenario
18ms average 0 packet loss to google servers, etc.
110ms average 15% packet loss to Primal DC.
Turn on VPN
Fixes everything
So somewhere along the pipe something is dying
probably impacting alot of people
leaden ginkgo
how long are login queues when new patches are released?
simple shore
Depends on your server. But its not going to be obnoxious....usually
leaden ginkgo
I was thinking about taking a few days off to play, but I remember in other mmo's it's almost impossible to play due to lag or login queues
simple shore
Oh, yeah, it doesnt get bad like WoW or anything
leaden ginkgo
good
simple shore
Usually if its going to be particularly bad (always for expansions) they turn on auto-logoff AFK until things get less congested.
leaden ginkgo
@leaden ginkgo Tuesday, July 28 at 1:00 a.m. to Thursday, August 27 at 12:00 a.m. (PDT)
simple shore
Like right now the only reason you get logged out of the game is if you manually do it or your connection gets interrupted
So you have people AFK for days on end online
leaden ginkgo
Thank you
I don't get how they can afford to stay afk for so long
my electricity bill would skyrocket if I were to do that
stiff osprey
who do you generally target with synastry?
i assume the off-tank in an 8 man
but what about a dungeon?
tank or melee dps?
twilit arch
the tank, because it'll boost the single target heals you do on them
unless you absolutely need to heal two targets at once
lime geode
Computers aren't that expensive to leave running, and if you don't have FF14 as your active window it limits the framerate and load on your GPU.
stiff osprey
@twilit arch ty
simple shore
Yeah, computers actually are pretty cheap on electricity usually
leaden ginkgo
do melds affect my retainer's performance?
zinc orbitBOT
twilit arch
for combat retainers, no
simple shore
tl;dr they can help gathering retainer
twilit arch
gathering retainers they can help
leaden ginkgo
I see
warped nest
Unless your computer is a monster rig with 8 screen
leaden ginkgo
does it matter if I have a miner or botanist?
warped nest
And blast audio through another 10k equipment
simple shore
insofar as?
leaden ginkgo
as items I can tell it to collect
warped nest
Then keeping it on 24/7 is not gonna increase your bill by a massive margin
twilit arch
for specific 1hr ventures, yes. what they bring back depends on what they are
simple shore
Well yeah
Miners bring back stuff that you as a miner could go get
Botanists, same
twilit arch
you can also only have them gather items you personally have gathered atleast once
zinc orbitBOT
gray sage
Can you bind hotbar actions to the PS4 chatpad?
For example, say that I want to save space for the 32+ Cross Hot Bar. Would I be able to assign Mount/ Dismount to Hot Bar 1 Button 1 and assign HB1B1 to lets say "1" and if I press 1 on the chatpad would I mount/ dismount?
tawdry onyx
Guys i just gotmyself an item from the moggle store, i close game and reloaded. and my item is still not in my moogle delivary
how long does this normally take
leaden ginkgo
so, right now I've only leveled one retainer, who has the same class as mine (I haven't upgraded its job though)
warped nest
If it is account wide, it will take a short while
leaden ginkgo
Guys i just gotmyself an item from the moggle store, i close game and reloaded. and my item is still not in my moogle delivary
@tawdry onyx it can take a few minutes
tawdry onyx
Yeah its an account wide
leaden ginkgo
yeah, those take longer
lime geode
You can upgrade the retainer?
leaden ginkgo
yes
warped nest
You can get more retainer
lime geode
What's it do?
tawdry onyx
Like, go watch an episode of anime and come back longer. or like day logner
jade quartz
Visit the Postmoogle and select “reward delivery request” (small circular button at the top of the Postmoogle window) to speed up delivery
gray sage
i'm guessing the answer to my question is "no"
leaden ginkgo
no like
jade quartz
@lime geode you can upgrade base combat class retainers to their jobs, or switch them to expansion jobs
leaden ginkgo
upgrade from marauder to warrior
but I don't know if it does anything for retainers
warped nest
It doesn't do anything on the performance end
jade quartz
It lets them equip job gear
simple shore
Yeah, there's no reason to not upgrade them to jobs
leaden ginkgo
helps you waste ventures afaik
simple shore
Because you want your retainers to have the same jobs as you do
quaint forge
I do have a question for an opinion. Is Intel HD Graphics 520 that bad?
warped nest
@gray sage yeah, probably a no
simple shore
so you can load them up with free gear
jade quartz
For example if you’re a scholar
gray sage
darn 😦
jade quartz
You’re gonna want to upgrade your arcanist retainer to Scholar
simple shore
@quaint forge Yes, its that bad.
lime geode
Makes sense.
jade quartz
So they can use your outdated healing gear
leaden ginkgo
or some job sets that are exclusive
lime geode
Mine is only lvl 39 right now so I had not thought about it. Once she hits 50 she can use the poetics gear.
leaden ginkgo
like the ones you get from the job quests
quaint forge
@simple shore That explains it. In fact, my FPS will be lowered if I go heavy high graphics
simple shore
Anytime you see "intel HD Graphics", it's an "integrated GPU", rather than a dedicated card. TL;DR its fine for watching youtube videos or netflix, but it will perform very poorly in gaming.
quaint forge
Which is I have to keep it to normal
So any Intel HD graphics does not fit for gaming
simple shore
Yeah its one of those misnomers that gets marketed to people
quaint forge
True. I could get FF14 for PS4, but I don’t own PS4. (Don’t have to worry about computer setup)
simple shore
Ehhhhh not really. If you're playing more modern games it will barely run it, if at all.
leaden ginkgo
true
simple shore
FF14 is a pretty old game at this point
quaint forge
I own Window Surface Pro 3, it’s a education purpose, so it would be obvious it won’t run into good gaming graphics
Plus, my laptop slowly getting 60-65 degrees for running FFXIV
lime geode
It's old but still beat on graphics cards pretty hard. I can't run max settings on my Vega56.
And that's a reasonably good card.
leaden ginkgo
are base jobs still "playable" if you remove their crystal?
lime geode
Though I run on a 2k screen.
leaden ginkgo
i.e. use my gladiator instead of paladin
quaint forge
Besides, not everyone has their own beefy PC.
gloomy mortar
What button do you press to hide the chat log window?
quaint forge
You mean with Mouse Mode?
gloomy mortar
Yes, keyboard too
simple shore
@leaden ginkgo you technically can, but it would be a really bad idea.
On top of losing all your job-specific abilities, you also lose a significant amount of stats
quaint forge
You right click the chat log @gloomy mortar
Then select hide log window
Right click one of the chat section(s)
leaden ginkgo
On top of losing all your job-specific abilities, you also lose a significant amount of stats
@simple shore hmm I thought they would compensate the loss of abilities with more stats
simple shore
Nope
quaint forge
About the keyboard, I never looked at it
simple shore
Job stones give you bonus stats
You can try it for yourself, just take one off and look at your HP plummet
quaint forge
Hmm also, I’m curious what was everyone’s graphics they’re running?
leaden ginkgo
I run rtx 2080
violet star
1070
leaden ginkgo
but with rtx, like 30% of the silicon you pay isn't used
quaint forge
I heard it’s really expensive to afford it
leaden ginkgo
rtx 2080 is like a 1080ti, but I went for the 2080 due to less power consumption and lower temperatures (I live in a hot region)
jade quartz
Integrated graphics chipsets will struggle to run RuneScape
quaint forge
Plus, with my current 520 HD intel, it didn’t do any good for my Animation courses + major route (But I digress)
You use desktop, yes?
leaden ginkgo
I used to play on a toshiba laptop 15 years ago
some games glitched, but I still played
weak wharf
anyone getting major latency issues?
remote lintel
so judgement volts go through rezz invuln?
leaden ginkgo
but now I can pay for it
anyone getting major latency issues?
@weak wharf not here
dusk zenith
@weak wharf im having huuuge major latency issues
i dont lag on any other game rn, just ff14
weird
quaint forge
Building your own desktop takes a lot of time and money to put to use
dusk zenith
are you in primal by any chance?
weak wharf
Aether
leaden ginkgo
Aether
median nebula
im pinging the NA database and its timing me out 4 of 5 times
quaint forge
Tbh, I always given an outdated desktop from my parents. Then I got laptop windows surface pro 3 from Rehabilitation department (college purpose).
leaden ginkgo
Tbh, there's not an important reason to have the PC of the year
dusk zenith
@leaden ginkgo how do you ping the server?
quaint forge
I gave my Windows 7 desktop to my grandparents after we moved our new home.
leaden ginkgo
Taskmanager, Performance Tab, open Resource Monitor at the bottom of the window, click Network tab, search for ffxiv_dx11.exe and ping the address displayed
quaint forge
And true
strange coral
!faq datacenterip
zinc orbitBOT
quaint forge
That explains why everyone feels cringy when I took a normal graphic in game screenshot
dusk zenith
thanks!
dusk zenith
pinging primal timed me out too once
median nebula
is this just something to wait out
its not patch related is it
its not for a week
faint flare
@cobalt narwhal hover over it, its listed in the item description just above its level requirement
strange coral
It's probably regional or ISP related. Not everyone is having problems, so I doubt it's an issue on SE's end. Just somewhere in between
quaint forge
Once I graduate from 4-year transferred college, I’ll try to afford my own desktop, but better be with good graphic driver.
remote lintel
does judgement volts go through rezz invuln
quaint forge
It’s also for my future career’s purpose
leaden ginkgo
Once I graduate from 4-year transferred college, I’ll try to afford my own desktop, but better be with good graphic driver.
@quaint forge if you're playing mmos, just go big on CPU, it helps more than a high end GPU
quaint forge
Agreed @leaden ginkgo
mental garnet
is there any cheap crit food for leveling?
mental garnet
mmk
simple shore
Dont bother trying to match stats on levelling food
Just buy the cheapest
Boiled Eggs or Raisins
leaden ginkgo
I buy boiled eggs
mental garnet
well
just wanted to check if it existed
since if it did, the extra crit would be nice over time
leaden ginkgo
it's just 2 points of crit
jade quartz
Virtually meaningless
mental garnet
ya meant something more substantial than that
leaden ginkgo
you would get .00001 crit rate
mental garnet
i'll just check the wiki's meal page
jade quartz
You’re fine sticking to boiled eggs
leaden ginkgo
boiled eggs are your best bet
jade quartz
There’s nothing actually worth your time and money.
mental garnet
kk
jade quartz
Recommend completely disregarding stats on leveling food
leaden ginkgo
better food is way more expensive for the little benefit you get
quaint forge
Hmm hold up: Is NVIDIA GeForce GT 635 runs a good graphic?
leaden ginkgo
like 3k each food, gtfo square
remote lintel
if someone who cleared a savage floor joins our party and enters the floor but we don't clear it and leave does that permanently mess up our loot?
quaint forge
Doesn’t have to be too extreme
leaden ginkgo
Doesn’t have to be too extreme
@quaint forge depends on what you want
faint flare
No, its only when you clear is loot decided
leaden ginkgo
do you want better settings? or more fps?
remote lintel
thanks vinyl
quaint forge
Just a FPS
This NVIDIA GeForce GT 635 belongs to my father’s desktop, that’s what I recall. Comparing to my Intel 520 HD
Don’t need to think too hard, I guess I better start learning bout the graphic drivers.
thorny bluff
I randomly found this "fellowship finder" thing, is this an FC finder, or is it something different?
strange coral
Fellowships are basically just ingame message boards
simple shore
They're also a dead feature tbh not really popularly used.
thorny bluff
Does it have its own dedicated tab? I recently joined one, but it doesn't seem to have anything for it.
quaint forge
You can use them for your own personal use, self entertaining etc
vocal shell
@thorny bluff it’s under socials
thorny bluff
Ah, I see it. Thanks.
Yeah, can't really say I can't see why it hasn't been used too often.
Seems so strange there's no general/world chat equivalent in this game.
cobalt narwhal
if your companion is on free stance does it use abilities on its own?
strange yarrow
does anybody actually know what the points in ffxiv do?
i mean, what the stat points equate to
Like, is 322 crit, 3.22% crit extra? How to quantify the gains/
whole wasp
They are by breakpoints so it depends on your current stat too.
There is a spreadsheet with all the stat values mapped to actual combat stats. Gimme a sec to find it.
warped nest
Tldr: a lot more is better, a lil bit more only matter if it push you to the next tier
whole wasp
!faq stats
zinc orbitBOT
warped nest
And stats are definitely not equally worthwhile
warped nest
Yes
whole wasp
Yes
warped nest
You can do it all
strange yarrow
Thank you guys a lot
leaden ginkgo
what item is best for GC seal to gil rate?
strange yarrow
just trying to figure out a easy way to quantify what my gear is doing
warped nest
@copper pasture do take note that you need to be an Arcanist to initiate and complete the SMN and SCH job quests
strange yarrow
ill just keep it simple and go for biggest numbers lol
whole wasp
Oh just to add, it depends on level too.
warped nest
So if you become a SMN, you need to remove the soul stone to be an Arcanist again to finish the SCH unlock quest
whole wasp
2k crit at lvl 70 and 2k crit at lvl 80 is completely different.
warped nest
Or the other way around
copper pasture
thanks
strange yarrow
oh ok
warped nest
Have fun.
strange yarrow
wow thanks
copper pasture
and once ive done both unlock quests i can switch between them just by equpping soul?
whole wasp
Yup
warped nest
You save your job gear as Gearset
Then you swap gear set to quickly change job
Don't manually equip a weapon, armor, soul stone
whole wasp
The only weird thing is that they share levels. So a lvl 70 sch is automatically a lvl 70 smn. Thats about it.
warped nest
To change to another job
zinc orbitBOT
warped nest
To add, if you grind your SCH to lvl 70, you still need to complete your missing SMN job quests too because some of the skills come from the job quests
copper pasture
whats a fast way level up a new class without MSQ
warped nest
!faq altlvlguide
zinc orbitBOT
warped nest
1-15: hunting log / fate
15+: Roulette (once per day) , highest level dungeon, etc
copper pasture
also if i started MSQ on my white mage
paper ravine
uuh are there any blu groups that are doing gilgamesh hard for missile
copper pasture
can i still continue the MSQ on another class?
paper ravine
nothing in party finder atm, thats why im asking here :s
whole wasp
Could ask your NN too.
paper ravine
is having 8 blu in a group a guarantee for a spell drop or nah
and is missile a low drop rate
copper pasture
what does PotD mean
paper ravine
palace of the dead
lavish vortex
hi!, i hear that tank is the easiest role a lot, does that apply to savage raiding as well?
twilit arch
8 blu in a group is not guaranteed drop for spells. if the spell comes from a dungeon, doing it sync'd ensures its 100% chance to learn
if you do it unsync or the spell is from open world mobs its a %
tho im not sure on exact percent
signal garnet
This may be a dumb question but why aren't more quest like the hildebrand line? Outside of these quest i haven't seen anyones face change in a unique way like it does here. Is it just difficult to do?
twilit arch
hildibrand is, iirc, where they do a lot of silly things that they eventually do use for msq and such
if you look at sb/shb, there's a lot more facial animations in it thats not really present in arr/hw
jade quartz
It’s a fair bit of cutscene budget to make Hildibrand yes
signal garnet
I noticed a bit in shb but its not quite as present as it is in hildebrand.
Just something I was curious about because it makes me almost 10* more interested than the static faces they normally have
jade quartz
But also a lot of those Hildibrand faces are deliberately pushing the facial rigging to, like, breaking point for comedic effect
Doesn’t really gel with other kinds of content
twilit arch
hildibrand has a lot more freedom in being able to push the broundries for silliness
signal garnet
Shame
umbral surge
Hi, I'm here too
signal garnet
Hope shb gets a hildebrand still going through it so I dont know if its concluded or not
jade quartz
The devs have said that there’s no Hildibrand planned for Shadowbringers
As they’re rather tired of it and want to try different things
little swift
hi!, i hear that tank is the easiest role a lot, does that apply to savage raiding as well?
@lavish vortex this is debatable, but in general there are also more tank based mechanics in savage as well. As someone who tanks it, i would say once you know the fights, tanking is still probably easiest out of them
tank swaps become more prevalent as well and important
so tank coordination is important
jade quartz
It wasn’t initially going to come back in Heavensward even, but player demand caused them to bring it back and stretch it out
jade quartz
You can check all tradable non-class-restricted glamour items on the marketboard
Pick say the chest slot category
And scroll through the pages of results until you reach the level 1 stuff
copper pasture
can the chocobo companion get all the skills in all 3 stances?
jade quartz
Yes
But leveling your chocobo companion all the way to rank 20 to get everything is a long grind
And also requires feeding one Thavnairian Onion in order to allow your chocobo to level up for every rank past 10
Thavnairian Onions usually sell for like 100–200K on server marketboards
twilit arch
you can get 2 onions for free from 2 side quests in heavensward
copper pasture
thanks
plain python
I can change jobs now. I assume Levequests are used to level up jobs?
whole wasp
Levequests are very efficient for gatherers and crafters. For combat, its pretty meh.
whole wasp
@compact citrus yes. Thats called rubberbanding and caused by lag
jade quartz
You can get to level 15/16 mostly off just hunting log targets
plain python
so pretty much old school kill-monster-to-level-up grind?
jade quartz
And then do daily leveling roulette, and then spam your highest-level dungeon repeatedly
No absolutely not
That’s the actual worst option
Dungeons are the go-to
If dungeon queue times are too long, can try Palace of the Dead floors 50–60 repeatedly
lavish vortex
what gear should i get for gatherers at lvl 60?
plain python
where can I found gear for war disciples as free-trial? Wanna mess around with archer/lancer for a bit, but I main a conjurer so my gear is only cloth.
jade quartz
During queue times you can try FATEs, or from level 41 or so on daily beast tribe quests
Vendors in all the main city market districts sell gear from level 1–50
whole wasp
@compact citrus nothing much you can do. Can try those ping services like wtfast but servers seem to be slightly unstable recently. Should get better in time.
The market area in the 3 starting cities sells gear up to 45
For all classes
plain python
I see
is crafting is only for end-game? Or I can gear up along the way with leveling up my craft?
jade quartz
At level 15 you can also run the Hall of the Novice as a physical dps to get disciple of war gear that will be good until about level 30.
You can get into crafting at any point
And could potentially make your own gear but it wouldn’t really be more efficient than just buying stuff or getting dungeon drops
whole wasp
Crafting is more like a side hobby thing. You dont need to do it if you dont want to.
jade quartz
If you want to make your own gear then you realistically need to level all the crafting classes except culinarian
copper pasture
is hall of novice gear good for disciples of magic too?
lavish vortex
what gear should i get for gatherers at lvl 60?
whole wasp
Yup
plain python
it is kinda fun though a bit grindy. I help with deforestation as a Botanist 😄
jade quartz
Yes if you run it as a disciple of magic
twilit arch
@lavish vortex you can get yellow scrip gear, but honestly would just recommend pushing to 61 and getting the bloodhempen set
whole wasp
Level to 61 and wear white gear from vendors is what i did.
jade quartz
@lavish vortex easiest option would be to hit 61 and get the level 61 vendor gear from Kugane
lavish vortex
thanks a lot!@twilit arch @jade quartz
plain python
should i keep old gear (like, for some game, I can dismantle them), or should I just sell them to vendor?
simple shore
51/61/71 vendor gear is pretty much enough to carry you all the way to 80 tbh
Anything else is a waste of effort
plain python
okay :d
simple shore
Momo if you've unlocked it you can desynth it
But at early levels its not worth bothering with that
Since the materials themselves are fairly worthless at low levels too
lavish vortex
@simple shore this applies to gatherers too?
simple shore
the 51/61/71 thing? Yes
lavish vortex
yeah, thx
viscid scroll
Just started playing the game and went arcanist. are dots just annoying to put on targets till you get bane? always feel awkward when there are like 10 targets in a dungeon and they die by the time i dot all of them w bio
should i just Ruin instead
simple shore
Arcanist is pretty rough in early levels
If you dont have bane available, yeah, its a bit of a waste to bother manually dot'ing everything if its dying fast
simple shore
Later on you'll have very good AoE, so its only a temporary problem
viscid scroll
okie think i will just focus on ST dmg then by dotting up one target and festering then ruining
till i get bane
oblique forum
This lag normal in dungeons?
simple shore
No
little swift
with your emerald carbuncle you'll also have egi assault for aoe and its autos
so don't worry too much for now
simple shore
There is something going on that is causing significant lag, but its not FF14's fault as best as I can tell
whole wasp
People who use comcast are all getting lag.
simple shore
Yeah
whole wasp
Seems to be the general report
simple shore
As soon as I turned on my VPN it instantly resolved the problem
whole wasp
F
simple shore
so some midway node is getting shit on
quiet magnet
how do i go to a player and give them items
whole wasp
I heard they using noping to route around it
mental garnet
some reddit comment said it's an "NTT issue" which i assume is one of the node companies
whole wasp
Right click and select trade. Cant trade if free trial
mental garnet
i just used my phone to tether my computer
whole wasp
Can use free company chest to transfer items too
nova gale
Having a weird networking issue on Comcast right now. It looks like my location information is being sent to the server just fine, but I'm not receiving information from the server. Assuming this information is UDP, I'm dropping incoming UDP packets from SE, but not outgoing it seems.
simple shore
its impacting everyone on US DC's right now who uses Comcast, yes.
nova gale
kk
simple shore
Either VPN or deal with it until its fixed
tulip plover
What is the quickest way to lvl 30
mental garnet
i spammed dungeons
simple shore
lol
tulip plover
Lol i do and i forget 
mental garnet
dungeon mobs are big xp, especially early
simple shore
!faq altlvlguide
zinc orbitBOT
mental garnet
ye u should bookmark that lol
spare plinth
how efficient is scathe as black mage
tulip plover
Aight cool ill be back to ask again tommorow! 
simple shore
Completely inefficient
spare plinth
i heard its pretty useless, but for me, it helps me do some damage in boss raids with hl players
simple shore
Its literally a button of last resort, and the difference it makes is minimal
little swift
your lowest potency fire skill is 180 pot before astral fire stages
its not worth to cast scathe
simple shore
Like, you could go through your entire black mage career never once having pressed Scathe and still orange parse every fight in the game
little swift
even thunder3 initial and 1 tick of the dot is 110pot
spare plinth
so its better to wait it out
simple shore
TL;DR the only time its a gain is if you have no other viable way to get a cast off, AND it will not delay your next cast
and with the tools available to you at 80 - those situations are nearly zero
quiet magnet
rightclicking on their name and it aint working
whole wasp
i only ever used it to get one last hit on a mob as it dies or just as a boss goes untargetable but its completely unnecessary
white ether
Is interject any good past 60?
mental garnet
yeah
jade quartz
Yes
mental garnet
spells are still spells
jade quartz
Still vital when it’s vital
simple shore
Interject is better past 60
lol
There's alot more thing to use it on, and the things you can use it on make alot more difference
whole wasp
they are starting to implement raid/dungeon mechanics that require interrupts with ShB onwards
iirc coil needs interrupts too
simple shore
Yeah any ADS type mob back in the day required a silence
quiet magnet
@whole wasp the player is level 2 those that change anything since im not seeing any of that
simple shore
Is the player on trial? Are you on trial?
quiet magnet
no
whole wasp
are they in the same map as you?
you have to be in the same area to do the face to face trade
quiet magnet
huh one sec then
simple shore
Hah, asking the real questions now.
oblique forum
VPN fixed it, thanks for the tip @ lag
simple shore
Yup
zinc orbitBOT
tulip plover
So when using food for lvling do you have to use it before or after the dungeon
tulip plover
Ok
quiet magnet
@whole wasp that worked i was able to trade thankyou
tulip plover
Is msq the besg way to farm poetics and how do you upgrade shire gear
halcyon glen
Augmented shire gear is done by an NPC in Idylshire
it needs Shire gear plus a Deepest Gobdip, Tautest Gobtwine, or whatever the last item is. it's another -est word.
You can obtain the augment items from the Tomestone vendor for an extra 100 tomestones or from the vendor to the right of her for a token obtained from each of the three HW alliance raids
As far as farming poetics go, honestly theres a lot of ways to do it
twilit arch
darkest gobcoat
halcyon glen
that's the one
slate carbon
What was the guide on how to get 1-70 in 5 days?
halcyon glen
old faithful for poetics farming for HW is spamming Aetherochemical Research Facility
and honestly it still works
slate carbon
!leveling
junior yacht
!lvlguide
halcyon glen
!faq altlevelguide
zinc orbitBOT
halcyon glen
!faq level
zinc orbitBOT
simple shore
!faq altlvlguide
zinc orbitBOT
slate carbon
Thank you <3
halcyon glen
thanks
junior yacht
don't spam bot commands if you don't know what it is
halcyon glen
I WAS LIKE 90% SURE 😦
junior yacht
if you get it wrong and start guessing go to #kupo-bot-spam
stiff osprey
does interject do anything at or past level 60?
simple shore
Yes
stiff osprey
i haven't seen anything for a while
simple shore
You will soon
raven sage
the 61 dungeon has something it works on
simple shore
Last trash mob of the 61 dungeon is a prime one for interject
Actually come to think of it, there's i think 3 things in there you can use it on
There's some in the 63 as well
simple shore
Not only is it more common 61+
It also makes a bigger difference
In the 73 dungeon theres something only interject can stop and its really bad if you let it go off
Well
Only Interject/Head Graze
oak ice
When you were doing the adds in E1S you learned to keep a finger on Interject
halcyon glen
i forget what do e1s adds do if you dont interject?
lavish vortex
do you have to do a quest to unlock levequests in Kugane?
halcyon glen
looks like just level 60 DoH/DoL?
lavish vortex
thx!
oak ice
They give themselves an attack buff and then one-shot you with the next Mana Burst
halcyon glen
oh right you die
rapid hatch
New player here, just hit lvl 12.
Right now I am doing all the quests I come upon however I can only play like 10h a week. Can I skip most side quests and just do the main story one?
halcyon glen
yes
rapid hatch
Are there any lvl requirements for the main quest?
halcyon glen
do these
do these when you can
rapid hatch
Oh okay!
oak ice
It's advisable to only spam MSQ and class quests
halcyon glen
yes, but odds are you're literally never going to hit the level wall on MSQ
after level, like, 4.
rapid hatch
Yeah I am playing on a extra exp server as well.
oak ice
And when you accept a main quest it says in the upper right corner what level it is, same for if it's red when you try to accept it
rapid hatch
Ok, tack 🙂
halcyon glen
if a quest shows up here, do it basically
rapid hatch
Gotcha!
ocean vessel
is there any difference in which grand company i join
shrewd owl
not rly its just whatever colour you like more
halcyon glen
and whatever place you can tolerate navigating whenever you want to do turn-ins
weak wharf
How often do optional mog items come out? Can we expect some at the next patch?
nocturne reef
Can anyone tell me which crafter and gatherer gears I should get for level 80
full spear
for end game gear i keep seeing conflicting info should we be going for the highest ilvl or overall stats?
twilit arch
until you're at Best in Slot ilvl, just focus on getting higher ilvl
When you're at best in slot ilvl, then worry about secondaries
mossy kite
do you not always win a TT card from the NPC? beat him twice with no reward other than MGP
twilit arch
no, its a chance of getting a card
full spear
okay thanks and pretty much thats crystarium then move onto edenchoir if im able to do savages
twilit arch
could get the card in 2 wins, or 20
mossy kite
thanks
twilit arch
mhm, BiS is generally a mix of augmented tomestone gear and savage
full spear
gonna be a long few weeks then
crimson wind
Buy Neo Ishgardian gear
full spear
yeah ive been doing by with part neo and some crystarium
mossy tartan
Where can I buy level 75 crafter gear? (Gil)
twilit arch
Doddard in the crystarium
zinc orbitBOT
mossy tartan
What about crafter jewelry? The NPC next to doddard only has fighting jobs equipment
mossy tartan
ok
honest anvil
can someone link me to a faq/ guide for weapons? white mage specifically. tks
keen fable
is requirement for the samurai any class at 50?
oak ice
Any battle class at 50 and Stormblood installed
keen fable
but dark knight and the other two require finishing arr right
oak ice
Yes, they learned from their mistake of putting the HW jobs inside the expansion area and didn't do it after that
keen fable
smeone mentioned theyre changing quests?
next tuesday - is that affecting the hw start
shrewd owl
no just ARR
keen fable
is it shortening it?
shrewd owl
ye a bit of a trim
oak ice
At the least they're removing 13 quests from the patch quests and a bunch of quest steps. There was something about them increasing the exp in the base game so you don't get "level walls", too
They wanted to remove more than 13 quests, but there was a ton of "important for later-stuff in those
random wave
I'm a returning free trial Steam players that just reinstalled the game after my laptop crashed, but i can't log in.
I keep getting This service doesn't have valid license
leaden ginkgo
on average without preferred server, how may hours does it take to get to heavensward?
random wave
I download it from steam
little swift
how long ago was your trial
random wave
Uhhh i started it in 2017, relog in again just around last year
Before my laptop crashed and i stopped again
little swift
hmm
i was thinking that it maybe that you logged in prior to the 14-day trial change
random wave
I have a suspicion that its caused by my country not supported so the steam version is not updated
No, i already logged in after 14 day trial change
crimson wind
So do we have a WoW refugee !faq? I think it could be pretty helpful considering the games are very different
little swift
hmm what country are you from?
random wave
Indonesia
little swift
i don't think we have that as an faq but there was a wiki page about it on the subreddit wol
olive horizon
I'm level 16 and got invited to a FC
What can I do to contribute to the FC rank?
I think I have to be level 20 and in a Grand company
crimson wind
We should make a faq about it then
little swift
you just have to play the game to contribute to FC
crimson wind
I'm level 16 and got invited to a FC
What can I do to contribute to the FC rank?I think I have to be level 20 and in a Grand company
@olive horizon play the game
random wave
I also got password change prompt prior to this error, does that cause the problem?
random wave
I logged in the website and it still says free trial
keen fable
after sergeant 2, do i need to be 44 to rank up again?
little swift
sergeant first class just requires 7k seals
random wave
Actually, the mogstation kinda floppy
keen fable
after i hit sergeant 2 i got tons of seals from all my dungeon gear and couldnt rank up and was sad
random wave
I did logged in, but any button i pressed hauls me to the login page again
little swift
hmmm have you tried another browser?
little swift
hmm something might be wrong with your SE account
random wave
Oof, i guess restarting from 1 again then, RIP
little swift
since you were on the trial you weren't that far thankfully
i'm not particularly techy, so if you still want to try recovering it
random wave
I only 35'd 5 job i guess
little swift
they may have some solutions
clever cave
Log in again
random wave
I did, and it still kicks me back in mog station
stiff osprey
is palace of the dead worth running on new characters?
or is exp better grinding fates
little swift
it depends on whether you would have quicker queues for potd
floors 51-60
in some cases dps would have better queues
stiff osprey
i'm in a group of 4
little swift
but highest level leveling dungeon would always be the best after roulettes
stiff osprey
so we have auto queues
right, we're sub 15
just wondering if fates are better xp/time
little swift
you guys can do your hunting logs
to top out your exp first
if your higher level jobs are high enough
you can always do the monotonous grinding thing outside aleport
have someone outside the party blow up whatever you pull
stiff osprey
are we stuck to base jobs if we haven't unlocked next job?
little swift
i don't really recommend this method because its mindless
stiff osprey
ie i'm past 30 in potd, but still a conjurer
little swift
you'd have to leave and complete the job quests
stiff osprey
will i stop getting new skills
leaden ginkgo
How do I find glam on the market board
little swift
if you know the name of it
you can type it in the search bar
otherwise you can always select an equipment type
and scroll through
leaden ginkgo
I dont know any names of any glam sadly, im trying to see if there's a glam that looks like dnc gear
little swift
!iglam thavnairian bustier
zinc orbitBOT
Images of glamour items by Gamer Escape.
little swift
like this?
leaden ginkgo
Mhmm
leaden ginkgo
My char's a male tho
stiff osprey
just as a data point, my base job dps players got a new ability at level 38 in potd
so you can still get something
just not much of something
little swift
unfortunately thats female only
your base class will still get abilities
but those would be the class abiltiies
not job abiltiies
limpid lantern
Should i bother with a relic reborn or doesnit give me lvl 50 weapon ?
lime sphinx
can i do the "born again anima" with my 80 PLD, cause technically my WHM weapon IS in my inv
warped nest
Doesn't work that way
little swift
you have to do it on the class you want it done on
lime sphinx
okok
warped nest
@limpid lantern you have other means to get lvl 50 weapons
little swift
ironworks is more accessible woopwoop
warped nest
Relic stuff are for glamours
limpid lantern
Yeah i have ironworks :)
limpid lantern
Alright ^^
Yeah im just soing all the blue + quests
Like i was told and this is one of them
leaden ginkgo
Is there a site w the male glam tho?
leaden ginkgo
Are u able to link it? Its ok if not
little swift
a bit outdated but this has a lot of older stuff
this one is in japanese but has more updated information
leaden ginkgo
Hm
zinc orbitBOT
steel orchid
Here's a random question, when does Maudlin Latool Ja become available to exchange allied seals for stuff? Do I need to level blue mage all the way to 60 and do class quests or something else?
raven sage
yes
smoky glade
what is eureka? is it something you can do solo?
spare plinth
can it take a while for a new player to go through story and level up to 80?
clever cave
Its an instanced zone with their own independent leveling, you can solo but you get greater rewards doing the content in a party @smoky glade
smoky glade
yes @spare plinth . i'd say take your time leveling up as it's the meat of the game
ohh okay thanks @clever cave
spare plinth
i only have arr and i got my black mage up to 50, i wanna level up my other doh classes and jobs
do most people buy materials from market place for their crafting class
smoky glade
it's cheaper to gather or craft the materials yourself while leveling up the other doh/dol classes
if you're short on gil i wouldn't recommend using the marketboard to buy materials
gentle osprey
Any seasoned players out there who knows how many nutsacks its gonna cost to upgrade i490 gear?
spare plinth
im only in the 20s for crafting
delicate ivy
Is there a way to install ffxiv without an active subscription? Using the download link and logging into my account just tells me my sub isn't active
spare plinth
no you need a subscription
if you're looking for free trial, it needs a separate launcher
delicate ivy
Isn't the install the same as the free trial?
spare plinth
different launcher
delicate ivy
Would that mean if I have both launchers I would install the game twice?
spare plinth
no, iirc, one is for free trial players, other is standard sub players
if you're on free trial you use the trial launcher, once you buy, you use the standard
delicate ivy
Yeah but the content is the same isn't it?
If I install the game with the free trial
Then get a sub
I will need to install fully again?
spare plinth
for now ft only goes to 35, but next update you go to heavensward
if you get the sub, you need to install the standard launcher
delicate ivy
Yes but you would still install the entirety even if you don't have access to it wouldn't you?
I don't mean the launcher, I mean the game itself
spare plinth
i think the game is still there, once you unlock standard sub then you can proceed
delicate ivy
And I looking for a work around right now
crimson wind
By downloading the game you download everything
delicate ivy
Because I want to install the game before I start my sub
crimson wind
No work around it
whole wasp
only the launcher is different so you dont have to redownload the parts that free trial already downloaded/installed
but free trial only has the base game so there might still be some small patches/content
delicate ivy
Wouldn't making a "free trial" give me access to the download and then when I use the actual launcher it wouldn't make me reinstall everything?