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[little swift]

as in they are not connected to other Final Fantasy games by story

[robust crow]

ffxv, ffxii, ffx, ffvii

etc.

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[little swift]

currently we have final fantasy's 1 to 15

all with their own stories and worlds

[leaden ginkgo]

Yeah ik, but isnt that obvious that its a standalone? Im not really getting ur point

[robust crow]

most people assume it's not its own game

because it's an MMORPG

and they are wrong, but they also would not have played ff14

[remote lintel]

final fantasy is mainly a single player game

so treat the story as a single player mostly

and then theres side content to do with other people

[robust crow]

single player until you need to do a dungeon

[remote lintel]

thats why i said mostly

[robust crow]

a lot of people try treating FF14 the same way they would treat WoW

then they realize they can't just powerlevel to 80 and start endgame raiding

[leaden ginkgo]

Wdym @robust crow ?

[robust crow]

ff14 is about the journey

no one gives a shit about WoW's story

they just do the motions for the quests until they hit max level

ff14 doesn't do that

ff14 pretty much forces you to care about the story

you can skip every cutscene and ignore the story

but at that point you're really skipping ff14's strong suit

not to mention everything important in the game, including activities and raids, all tie into the story somewhere

[olive sequoia]

I care about wows story

up until cata

[remote lintel]

"regular" MMOs have like no story and are extremely grindy and people just blast to endgame

they think they can do the same with ff14

[leaden ginkgo]

Idk if i like this mindless questing. Its very easy and I feel like im not fully... engaged? I'm kinda just cruising along 🤣 Does it get any better or is this just not a game for me?

[robust crow]

ff14's weakest story moments is from 1-50

until you get past that part, admittedly ff14 is quite lackluster

[leaden ginkgo]

The story rn is just like 'fetching quests'

[robust crow]

what level are you?

[leaden ginkgo]

Dunno if I should stick at it...

Lvl 20

[olive sequoia]

I just hit 50 and so far its been boring, hoping Heavensward is better

[robust crow]

there's one definitive moment in ff14's story where it really takes a nosedive into the rest of the game

and that's at the very VERY end of ARR

which means all of the postquests of level 50

but getting there is slow

i promise, everyone who has made it past that slow point sing praises about the rest of the game

and people who don't like it usually stopped before they got to it

[leaden ginkgo]

Ok then, that gives mw hope! I think the thing thats keeping me going is that sweeet endgame paladin gear 🤣

[robust crow]

to be specific

after your level 50 quest

there are additionally 100 more quests

before you hit the level 51 portion of the story

if you play regularly while doing all those quests, chances are you'll be way past level 51 at that point

but sometime in the next month, we should be getting an update that makes those 100 quests shorter and more bearable

[olive sequoia]

please tell me u can skip arr level 50 quests and get into the first expensaion

expansion*

[robust crow]

you can but I really would recommend you don't

because, while boring, those 100 quests have really significant story meaning

[leaden ginkgo]

Waiiiit 100 more quests until the next level???

[robust crow]

even at level 80 we're still referencing events that happened in that time

[leaden ginkgo]

Ive been mostly skipping dialogue...

[robust crow]

it's 100 quests until the level 51 portion of the story

[leaden ginkgo]

?

[robust crow]

you will be way past level 51 if you play during that time

my friend started the level 51 story at level 61

[leaden ginkgo]

I dont get it

[robust crow]

your main story quest has a level requirement

[leaden ginkgo]

Oh

Yeah

[robust crow]

there's a TON of "level 50 requirement" quests

which are the quests before the next expansion, Heavenward

when the quests finally jump to "level 51 requirement", you've hit heavensward

until then, you're still in A Realm Reborn

[leaden ginkgo]

Oh

[olive sequoia]

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Main_Scenario_Quests

[robust crow]

post-ARR, to be exact

[leaden ginkgo]

I get it now

[jade quartz]

Heavensward also begins at level 50

Not 51.

It will be very obvious when you enter Heavensward though

There is a big title card “HEAVENSWARD”

[robust crow]

yeah, you're right, it begins at 50

[leaden ginkgo]

I hope it gets better. Rn im not really thinking - just spamming my combos and picking up loot throught the story :/

[olive sequoia]

I really dont wanna do all the hundred billion quests to get to shadowbringers, the only thing that is redeeming is that I dont have to do it again on other classes

[robust crow]

that's not a great way to think about it

heavensward, stormblood, and shadowbringers are fantastic by themselves

and I mean fantastic

[leaden ginkgo]

Judging by the story?

[robust crow]

lots of cool moments and story to go through

[mental garnet]

the questing is boring. the story makes it worth it.

^to me.

[thick bolt]

if I open up a treasure map and do it in a party will they be able to get it even if they aren't in this area?

[leaden ginkgo]

:// If the questing is boring, idk if im gonna enjoy

[robust crow]

well, bad news for you

questing's gonna be pretty boring for a while

some classes don't even unlock their full rotation until the 60s

[olive sequoia]

I got my miner and botanist to level 50 before my main class because that was more fun than the 1-50 story quests

[robust crow]

but bottom line is

the rest of the game is worth it

[mental garnet]

do yourself a favor and overlevel yourself for the level of MSQ you're at

via daily roulettes

[robust crow]

yeah, either that or start a second class

[thick bolt]

if I open up a treasure map and do it in a party will they be able to get it even if they aren't in this area?

[olive sequoia]

just doing the MSQ im like 10 levels above msq the entire time cuz of the dungeons in the quests

[mental garnet]

well, i had a dry level range in the late 30s

[robust crow]

wouldn't be a bad idea to pick up a second class

especially since some of them start at level 30, 50, and 60

[mental garnet]

so i had to wait for 10am CT to roll around

[leaden ginkgo]

Im gonna stick at it. Ive had an mmo itch for a while and I'm just gonn a wait and see if this can satisfy

[mental garnet]

and do another leveling roulette

before i could even touch the next msq

@leaden ginkgo there's a reason the expansions have gotten progressively better reviews

[leaden ginkgo]

I dont wanna pick up another class. Dont think its necessary

[mental garnet]

with all of them being good to spectacular

it's just ARR being kinda poo

[leaden ginkgo]

@mental garnet Yep thats what I'm waiting for

[mental garnet]

which they're supposedly fixing in the next patch

[leaden ginkgo]

Oh?

Whens that?

[mental garnet]

not announced yet to my knowledge

[olive sequoia]

Im new to the game and this is what ive done so far, idk if Im doing it right, I heard someone you want to keep some profs to your level of your main class while leveling cuz its easier https://gyazo.com/397fa85c3f6c3aa790ce071a24889b9c https://gyazo.com/63dd45b90b0c146c09c1c7b3fae2129e

[mental garnet]

mid july thereabouts?

[leaden ginkgo]

I'm guessing I should actually start reading dialogue then

[mental garnet]

well they're reducing the number of level 50 msq

because it's a genuine slog right now

but until it's released or they give us actual details, i don't think anyone can know how significant the change will be

[thick bolt]

Levelling professions right now is dumb easy you can do it whenever you want, I maxxed out all of my disciples of the hand within 2 days of running a macro. @olive sequoia so just level your main and then do ishgard collectables

[mental garnet]

@olive sequoia i know for sure armory bonus applies to combat classes that are lower level than your highest level, but i'm not sure if the armory bonus applies to doh/dol

someone else know?

[vagrant copper]

No armoury bonus for DoH/DoL

[mental garnet]

aight

@thick bolt do you happen to know of a guide for ishgard collectables? i've been really slowly leveling my doh/dol classes passively through GC turnin every day, but what you just said sounds really appealing

[thick bolt]

I can show after this fight

[mental garnet]

cool, ty

[olive sequoia]

@thick bolt how did you level them so fast, I have a hard time finding mats to make stuff that I can level with

[leaden ginkgo]

do you think it would be smart to max both miner and bot before touching crafters ?

and also is ishgaurdian restoration good for gathering ?

[obsidian patio]

It’s not great, but you don’t need to keep upgrading your gear

So it has that going for it

[tough grove]

I'm a brand new summoner, is there a way to get my emerald carbuncle to stop using AOE attacks?

[obsidian patio]

Nope

[olive sequoia]

just wait till level 30

and you get a single target nicer pet

[tough grove]

So dumb

[faint flare]

Use summon 2 prior to summon 3

For single target

[unreal aspen]

question about leveling a tank

how does each tank play? like in regards to how it feels/what's enjoyable about it

[little swift]

they're basically the same just slightly different flavours

and different tools to accomplish the same purpose

[oblique bane]

best way to level dps class lvl 30-50?

[leaden ginkgo]

@oblique bane if you have all the expansions you’ll be at 80 before you beat HW

just doing msq

[little swift]

!faq altlvlguide

[zinc orbit]

Leveling Guide for Alt jobs 🍻

Info

Level 1 to 70 in five days (Stormblood)

[leaden ginkgo]

and stuff

[little swift]

your roulettes are key here

[oblique bane]

:p alt

[leaden ginkgo]

oh alt ^^^

[oblique bane]

i figured roulettes but dont they only become crucial at lvl 50+?

[leaden ginkgo]

and for the tank answer i wanna add ^ do research b/c some tanks are better than others at certain stuff

[little swift]

no roulettes are always good once per day

[unreal aspen]

also remember to eat food!

3% exp isnt a huge amount but it adds up

[oblique bane]

mkay ty for the answers

[dusky echo]

I mean

[daring turret]

How long does the restriction for making a new char on a world that is not accepting at the moment lasts? A friend wanted to start there but it says its not currently accepting

[dusky echo]

exp for sanity

[olive sequoia]

@daring turret when some people that are online get off

so during off peak hours

[daring turret]

So thats it?

Ah nice thanks

[olive sequoia]

for adamantoise I had to wait till past midnight to get an opening

but im on pST

[daring turret]

Exactly that lol

Im there and he wanted to make the char there

We are pst

[olive sequoia]

between 11pm-12am is when I got in

[tulip plover]

Mythril tempest doesnt do a whole lot will it get upgraded later?

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[warped nest]

It is an AOE, so don't expect it to have potency upgrade

!action Mythril Tempest

[zinc orbit]

**Mythril Tempest** : lvl 40 WAR (2.5 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 100 to all nearby enemies.
Combo Action: Overpower
Combo Potency: 200 Combo Bonus: Extends Storm's Eye duration by 10s to a maximum of 30s Combo Bonus: Increases Beast Gauge by 20

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[warped nest]

It will however, get a trait later that let it gain beast gauge

[tulip plover]

Ah ok

Cuz as far as i know i just think of it as a different overpower

[twilit arch]

its combos with overpower

[warped nest]

It combos from overpower

[tulip plover]

Oh really?

[warped nest]

Overpower - Mythril Tempest

Repeat

[twilit arch]

it says it in the tooltip

"combo action: overpower"

[warped nest]

It is in the tooltip

[tulip plover]

Didnt read it cuz i was mid battle when i lvled

[warped nest]

First time with AOE combo?

[tulip plover]

And yea

[warped nest]

Now you know :D

[tulip plover]

And knowing is half the battle :D

[warped nest]

The beast gauge trait for Mythril Tempest comes much later

You can check in your action and Trait window to learn when

[tulip plover]

Well at least now i can spam overpower and mythril tempest when im aggroing hordes

[warped nest]

Take note that overpower is a frontal cone

And Tempest is a circle

I dunno why SE do it this way, but yeah

[tulip plover]

Yea so use the cone to aggro and then tempest rinse repeat?

[warped nest]

They both aggro

And both damage

Aggro and damage are one and the same

[tulip plover]

Yea

But im assuming that overpower is slightlt longer reach?

Well im glad it combos cuz tempest would just replace overpower

[shrewd relic]

do we know when the next patch will be released?

[warped nest]

We will know when soon

In the upcoming live letter in July

[tulip plover]

What does the patch introduce?

[warped nest]

New Nier alliance raid
More msq
New EX trial
Unreal Shiva trial (I think this is 5.3)
Next step for relic
Possibly new tier of doh/l gear

Etcetera

[tulip plover]

:0

[remote lintel]

flying

[warped nest]

Oh yeah, flying in ARR zone once you finish the base ARR story

[jagged crow]

Do I have to do party finder as blue mage to get spells from dungeons and stuff? I did it with some friends and didn't get the spell

I did an unsync'd party

[robust crow]

you have to see the boss use it while being alive

[jagged crow]

I did

[twilit arch]

unsync, you're dealing with rng to learn the spell

[robust crow]

and you have to be alive when the boss dies

[twilit arch]

you have to do it sync for it to be 100%

[jagged crow]

It was the white knight and black knight from the vault

[robust crow]

even then it's rng whether or not you actually learn it

[jagged crow]

Guess I will try again

[twilit arch]

if you have a full party

you may as well do the dungeon sync so its 100% learn rate

[jagged crow]

Okay ty

[leaden ginkgo]

Can someone tell me why it recommends this ring over the left one?

How does that make any sense

[twilit arch]

because rubelite doesn't have dex

[leaden ginkgo]

But overall im weaker

i tested it

[twilit arch]

recommendation is going to prioritize items with your main stat

[leaden ginkgo]

Oh i see

[twilit arch]

accessories below 50 aren't really that make or break

[slate arrow]

main stat

[leaden ginkgo]

in eureka can i go in as a black mage and get gear for my dark knight ?

[twilit arch]

yes

elemental level is tied to your character, not your job

that said, make sure you have the lvl 70 job specific gear. Since that's used at the base for the relic

[leaden ginkgo]

so i need my drk at 79 first ?

70I

70* to get it ?

[gloomy ice]

Yeah. Eureka is unique in the sense that it requires you to upgrade the level 70 job gear.

[leaden ginkgo]

ok cool didn’t know that

also how successful would drk be soloing potd to 50 ?

[gloomy ice]

Any job could potentially do it but you’d need near or completely full aetherpool weapon and armor to survive. Plus you’d have to take it one mob at a time for the most part.

[slate arrow]

Every job can solo potd up to 150 or so if you're smart

Past that it's a crapshoot

[rough lance]

any idea roughly which mats will b needed for the new upcoming eqs for crafters or gatherers?

[gloomy ice]

Likely new mats.

[rough lance]

all new mats? >.<

[slate arrow]

Current tomestone materials are a safe bet

Also stockpiling on current timed node materials but that's a little less of a guarantee

They also might introduce new crafted materials

[rare karma]

On ps4 how do i use a mouse on the login page i was able to do it before but now i cant use a mouse until i login

[twilit arch]

its very likely that the new gear will have new materials

[gloomy ice]

Hold L1+click R3

[rough lance]

thinking to prepare a bit since i'm skipping the current set of lvl 80s eqs

[gloomy ice]

Alternatively you can use the trackpad as a mouse

[twilit arch]

also very likely they are going to add one of those materials to the new beast tribe

[slate arrow]

Basically it's all up in the air and it's best you stockpile on what you can

[twilit arch]

if you're going to stockpile phanta and timed node stuff is a safe bet

[rare karma]

Is there way to change it didnt work so i think i did something

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[gloomy ice]

Hmm double checking

On the login screen? Virtual mouse and track pad don’t seem to work 🤔

Clicking the button combination doesn’t seem to do anything either

[rare karma]

? I dont know how i did it before

[gloomy ice]

However

Using the D-pad will snap to different items while using the left stick makes it act like a regular mouse.

[rare karma]

I unplugged it to use on pc and it stopped working for ps4 home screen

[gloomy ice]

Might need to restart the ps4. Going to experiment on my end to see.

Yeah check your connected devices in the system set up or try a restart.

[rare karma]

Ok ill try

[upbeat storm]

is mariner cotton cloth used for something recently?

the price shot up from 15k to 100k on primal

[gloomy ice]

It's for the moonfire crafted sets

[rare karma]

Worked thx

The mouse needs to be connected before starting up the system

It lets it work on the web browser that way as well thx

[upbeat storm]

yeah i know that

but why the massive increase now

[gloomy ice]

Perhaps it's someone trying to tank the market? I've seen that on occasion. Someone/groups of people clearing out markets to resell and drive prices back up

[rough lance]

mariner cotton cloth has been 100k for 3mths? o.o

[silver ruin]

no, depends on server

[little swift]

its a pretty rare material that either comes from desynth of the moonfire items or from maps

[silver ruin]

apparently on their server it was cheaper

[little swift]

but its pretty server dependent

[rough lance]

been checking on servers... always 100k.... mayb i'm jus unlucky on the timing i checked

[vast saffron]

What makes the blue mage so overpowered?

[indigo orbit]

Absolutely zero skill balancing

[gloomy ice]

Some of the spells they learn are, yeah, busted on purpose.

[little swift]

for example

[vast saffron]

Well that's vague, details please

[little swift]

!action final sting

[zinc orbit]

**Final Sting** : lvl 1 BLU (2.5 second cooldown)(2.0 second base cast time)

Deals physical damage with a potency of 2,000 while incapacitating self.
Additional Effect: Inflicts Brush with Death on self
Duration: 600s
Effect will not be removed upon revival or further incapacitation.
Cannot be executed while under the effect of Brush with Death.

Blue Magic

A desperate mage's last resort, this technique converts all of the user's life force to an aetherial poison that is then injected into a single adversary. Suffice it to say that, as with the physical sting of the wespe, it should not be relied upon in but the most dire of circumstances.

Obtained

Killer Wespe / Middle La Noscea (15, 15)

Blue Magic

Type: Physical
Aspect: Piercing
Rank: 2

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[slate arrow]

you can also crit

[little swift]

with buffs you can do taht

at like level 60

[slate arrow]

so if you're running bis you can deal like

[vast saffron]

But doesn't the blu die too with that one?

[slate arrow]

20k DPS in your opener

[little swift]

yeah but if you do that 7 times on a boss

you can basically kill it at 20%

[slate arrow]

"im taking you with me"

[little swift]

think about it in comparison

[vast saffron]

Ok so aside from final sting... what else?

[indigo orbit]

but also

[little swift]

!action technical finish

[zinc orbit]

**Technical Finish** : lvl 70 DNC (2.5 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Delivers an attack to all nearby enemies. Potency varies with number of successful steps, dealing full potency for the first enemy, and 75% less for all remaining enemies.
0 steps: 500
1 step: 750
2 steps: 1,000
3 steps: 1,250
4 steps: 1,500 Step Bonus: Grants Technical Finish and Esprit to self and party members Damage bonus of Technical Finish varies with number of successful steps.
1 step: 1%
2 steps: 2%
3 steps: 3%
4 steps: 5%
Duration: 20s
Additional Effect: Activates the Esprit Gauge
Triggers the cooldown of weaponskills, step actions, and finish actions upon execution. Cannot be executed during the cooldown of weaponskills, step actions, or finish actions.

※This action cannot be assigned to a hotbar.

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[indigo orbit]

!action White Wind

[zinc orbit]

**White Wind** : lvl 1 BLU (1500 MP) (2.5 second cooldown)(2.0 second base cast time)

Restores own HP and the HP of all nearby party members by an amount equal to your current HP.

Blue Magic

White Wind imbues a localized current of air with purified aether, distributing its curative effects throughout the vicinity. Though powerful for such a simple spell, the purification of sufficient aether requires significant magical exertion on the part of the caster, and thus should be used sparingly.

Obtained

Learn 10 spells.

Blue Magic

Type: Magic
Aspect: None
Rank: 3

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[little swift]

1500 potency but costs 4 gcds to use

[gloomy ice]

Current BiS 80s still aren't hitting those kinds of numbers. BLU is doing that at 60.

[little swift]

whereas with that you can cast 1 thing

[slate arrow]

!action moon flute

[zinc orbit]

**Moon Flute** : lvl 1 BLU (500 MP) (2.5 second cooldown)(2.0 second base cast time)

Grants the effect of Waxing Nocturne, increasing damage dealt by 50% and movement speed by 30%.
Duration: 15s
When effect ends, the player is afflicted with Waning Nocturne, preventing the use of auto-attack, weaponskills, spells, or abilities.
Duration: 15s

Blue Magic

This technique imitates a peculiar flute wrested from the grasp of a vanquished voidsent. Said creature was initially welcomed as a god by those New World peoples who worship the moon, but it soon became clear to them that the flute was the true source of its power and cruel authority.

Obtained

Complete 10 stages in the Masked Carnivale.

Blue Magic

Type: Magic
Aspect: None
Rank: 1

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[little swift]

!action suparnakha

[zinc orbit]

**Surpanakha** : lvl 1 BLU (200 MP) (30.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Deals earth damage to all enemies in a cone before you with a potency of 200 for the first enemy, and 50% less for all remaining enemies.
Additional Effect: Grants Surpanakha's Fury, increasing potency of Surpanakha by 50%
Duration: 3s
Can be stacked up to 3 times.
Maximum Charges: 4
Effect is canceled upon execution of any action other than Surpanakha.

Blue Magic

Favored by Ravana, this spell subtly manipulates earth-aspected aether to draw metallic particles from nearby mineral deposits, then propels them forward in an expansive wave to pierce foes' flesh like shrapnel.

Obtained

Ravana / Thok Ast Thok

Blue Magic

Type: Magic
Aspect: Earth
Rank: 5

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[little swift]

primal spells are super strong

also

!action tail screw

[zinc orbit]

**Tail Screw** : lvl 1 BLU (400 MP) (2.5 second cooldown)(2.0 second base cast time)

Reduces target's HP to a single digit.
Chance of successful attack is low. Has no effect on enemies whose level is higher than your own.

Blue Magic

Karlabos performs Tail Screw by collecting turbulent aether in the tip of its tail, then unleashing it at once as a violent whorl that rips foes' lives from their bodies. This is notoriously difficult to imitate, due to the challenges inherent in attempting to control such a volatile aetherial vortex.

Obtained

Karlabos / Sastasha (Hard)
Crag Claw / The Peaks

Blue Magic

Type: Magic
Aspect: None
Rank: 4

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[indigo orbit]

!action Missile

[zinc orbit]

**Missile** : lvl 1 BLU (300 MP) (2.5 second cooldown)(2.0 second base cast time)

Deals damage equal to 50% of target's current HP.
Chance of successful attack is low. Has no effect on enemies whose level is higher than your own.

Blue Magic

A magical imitation of warmachina technology, this technique allows the user to fire a barrage of aetherial missiles. When efficacious─which, bear in mind, is not guaranteed─it sends a shock through the foe that appears to resonate more the greater their vitality.

Obtained

Enkidu / Battle in the Big Keep

Blue Magic

Type: Magic
Aspect: None
Rank: 4

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[little swift]

lots of super powerful spells

and the aoe version of missile is launcher

[junior yacht]

ok that's enough spell description panels

[indigo orbit]

They asked why BLU is overpowered

[slate arrow]

basically, BLU is busted and it makes for a fun time

[little swift]

the idea here is taht its not a balanced job

[indigo orbit]

Blue Mage has literally never been balanced in basically any FF game

except maybe XI but even then

[vast saffron]

Ok so basically run up to a epic boss fate and spam tail screw until it procs?

[slate arrow]

I've ran a few of the challenge raids and it's hilarious watching 8 people go like "okay so when do we final sting I want that mount"

Also, it makes old content pretty fun

[little swift]

for epic boss fates you're better off trying to time 2 missiles together

to 1 hit it

[slate arrow]

Like running event FATES and one shotting everything

[gloomy ice]

Don't forget that siphoning from a DPS with Aetherial Mimicry gives them what is essentialy permanent Devilment buff. +20% crit and DH.

[slate arrow]

basically BLU is in an extremely good place now and it's still fun side content to knock out if you're bored of regular content

I think there's a few BLU servers around if you're still interested

[vast saffron]

But nothing for it past 50 right?

[gloomy ice]

It goes to 60 now

[vast saffron]

But can they get into raids? I think a bunch say "not a limited class" on the reqs

[slate arrow]

only for duty finder

Full parties do not have a such restriction

[gloomy ice]

You can take them into anything short of PvP, PotD, and roulettes as long as you have a premade.

[vast saffron]

And they can be leveled easily enough via grouping with an 80 right?

[indigo orbit]

not grouping

[slate arrow]

yes

tl;dr find level 59 mobs to tag and have a level 80 friend one shot your tagged mobs

[gloomy ice]

Ran Alex 8 Savage for the hell of it with an all BLU party. Was utter shenanigans. Haven't had that much fun in a raid in ages.

[indigo orbit]

Unless they changed it the 80 wouldn't actually be in your party you basically tag mobs and then the 80 kills it

It's the same principle as power leveling in other MMOs

Like WoW

[slate arrow]

Now I'm just wondering about potential bahamut ultimate shenanigans

[gloomy ice]

Dude

I can't wait for next BLU level cap increase

[slate arrow]

inb5 we get tetraflare as a primal spell

/anyways that's enough discussion for now

[delicate stone]

in what situation can't you res someone? I know some trials have permadeath, but what about dungeon bosses?

[slate arrow]

if you can see their corpse you can always rez

[delicate stone]

Gotcha, was in a dungeon and couldn't tried to rez someone a couple times and they didn't come up... Not quite sure what happened

[slate arrow]

They probably didn't accept the rez

[delicate stone]

Maybe, guess I'll never know lol

They complained about it after the boss died :/

[gusty rock]

Do the game not have a repair or verify tool because i upgraded from trial to full game and had to deal with a entire evening of troubleshooting

I don't even know if there are corrupt files, if the downloads gets cut off every 30 minutes when i was trying to sleep while it downloads.

[slate arrow]

Trial to Starter or Complete?

[gusty rock]

Complete

[slate arrow]

@tender estuary is there a ffxiv file verification tool anywhere online

[spare plinth]

I’m about reach the end of trial and my only main jobs I have is scholar and summoner

Scholar is hard to master so should I quickly level a conjuror to white mage?

[gusty rock]

There are some finicky information... But leveling isn't a problem in the full game

[spare plinth]

I’m about to do one of the last dungeons offered by the free trial

[gusty rock]

If anything it is much faster using Palace of the dead i heard

I didn't manage to play for long before i got a BSOD

And then had to keave for work

My friend tells me the RAM may be OC too high for a Ryzen 1st gen

[spare plinth]

So should I grab myself a conjuror and level it up to white mage?

[slate arrow]

wait an actual BSOD

That sounds like a hardware problem over an install problem

[gusty rock]

Yes ff14 trial and later somehow triggered it

But

If i take a loot at maintenance logs

I see windows updates for 3rd party installing when those crashes occurs

You can't disable those

[slate arrow]

@tender estuary help please

[little swift]

So should I grab myself a conjuror and level it up to white mage?
@spare plinth that's up to you. the trial is unlimited time so you could theoretically level all jobs/classes to 35 before you upgraded if you wanted

[spare plinth]

Eh I’ll grab me a conjuror

[tender estuary]

no I dont believe there is a file checker

[spare plinth]

Healers tend to immediately get a party

[gusty rock]

You can level insanely fast doing palace of the dead once unlocked in the full game

With a matched party

[spare plinth]

But I’m on trial, so I don’t think it’s gonna apply

[gusty rock]

Yeah that only goes up 10 floors

[slate arrow]

no it still applies

You still queue with the regular queues

The trial is the full game, you just can't use the marketboard, retainers, or social features

[gusty rock]

What is more important is that you gear yourself to lv35

Since gear makes or breaks your defenses

Maxing all crafter to lv35 is easy at times in trial

I get lucky and find a supply and provision for a item

Then i make a HQ and send it for massive exp

[leaden ginkgo]

is there like a beginner guide on what to do at lvl 50? for gear and such

[remote lintel]

get poetics and but gear at mor dhona

buy

[gusty rock]

You can make your own gear

[remote lintel]

dont

[jade quartz]

Do your job quests for i90

Then buy i120 Ironworks with Poetics from Mor Dhona.

[gusty rock]

Higher item level stuff are end game stuff though

[jade quartz]

And optionally spend more poetics to augment it to i130

[remote lintel]

for that expansion yes

[little swift]

making your own gear isn't super useful while you're leveling

[leaden ginkgo]

Job quest gave me I59 equips

What are poetics

[little swift]

since you'll struggle to get the items needed to make the gear itself that you'll outpace

[remote lintel]

the item level isn't the same as equip level

[little swift]

poetics are a currency that is used to purchase old end game gear

!faq poetics

[gusty rock]

As long as you ain't rushing the game it shouldn't be a issue to raise crafters

[zinc orbit]

What Should I spend my Poetics on?

Info

Text Guide on what to spend Tomestones of Poetics on

Video guide on how to get more Tomestones of Poetics

[leaden ginkgo]

isnt the litle clover icon the I level?

[indigo orbit]

It isn't an issue now but it's not really worth it

[remote lintel]

hover over your gear

[indigo orbit]

that's your average item level

[little swift]

that's your average item level

each piece of gear has their own

[gusty rock]

The lv1 Ring is lv30

[little swift]

you're wearing the i90 set with doodoo accessories

[indigo orbit]

Your whole right side is bringing down your average

[leaden ginkgo]

Oh i see. i thought you guys ment the 50 job quest set gets you to i90 avrg

Yea i cant find better rings

[little swift]

no it just gives you i90 left side

[remote lintel]

equip lvl 70

[little swift]

thats where poetics come in

[remote lintel]

ilvl 390

[slate arrow]

!faq Poetics

[zinc orbit]

What Should I spend my Poetics on?

Info

Text Guide on what to spend Tomestones of Poetics on

Video guide on how to get more Tomestones of Poetics

[leaden ginkgo]

My MSQ is still lvl 35 ):

[gusty rock]

I wonder how are some people managing to get discord overlay working in the game... My steam version and my GPU could not see the client for the trial

[indigo orbit]

Keep doing MSQ

[leaden ginkgo]

unlocked the 50 dungeon that needs i45

[gusty rock]

Ill check back once im home if the full game works better

[indigo orbit]

If you're that far behind in the MSQ you should just do that

[little swift]

discord overlay is super finicky with the PC game client

[slate arrow]

@gusty rock discord has been broke for FFXIV for a while now, at least for me

[indigo orbit]

Because you need to progress that to be able to access the dungeons that get you poetics

[warped nest]

MSQ is not optional

[indigo orbit]

most of them

[little swift]

to my knowledge it requires some run as admin fuckery and the like to get it to want to cooperate with the game

[gusty rock]

Yeah Steam overlay doesn't work btw and GPU only sees the entire desktop not a game running

[indigo orbit]

Steam overlay works with XIV for me 🤷

[slate arrow]

We don't know what SE does to the game sometimes but

[indigo orbit]

It breaks a lot but it does load

[slate arrow]

they do some wack ass shit sometimes

[zinc orbit]

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[gusty rock]

I wonder if the GPU is rendering the entire desktop and such along with my game... Its a Vega 56 but on max it heats up easily... Ive played games that are way heavier like witcher 3...

Maybe CPU

[tulip plover]

Wtf everything that i synced to was always below me but no its 4 levels above at 50

[indigo orbit]

FFXIV is more CPU bound

[gusty rock]

The GPU caps out but CPU is minimal, but MMORPGs are heavy hitters in CPU due to threads and netcode

[indigo orbit]

But also AMD drivers are

a thing

[gusty rock]

Maybe its single core...

[indigo orbit]

It's definitely not because then my Ryzen 3600 would barely be better than my old 4790k

[gusty rock]

I got a ryzen 1700

[indigo orbit]

Actually I think the IPC on Zen 2 is pretty big over Haswell at this point but that's more of #technology-discussion talk

[gusty rock]

AMD drivers are also finickly lately, since Spring.

It broke my driver ui several times and i had to clean the driver twice. So for games like this it easily can trip over itself

[dense pier]

How much more different is it in difficulty to level non-ARR beast tribes?

[gloomy ice]

HW beast tribes and all others following it will scale up to your level

[dense pier]

Oh?

Explain

[warped nest]

So if you are within that expansion's level range

You get exp matching your level

Lvl 51 and lvl 59 gets somewhat similar percentage of a bar's wroth of exp for all HW beast tribe

[delicate stone]

Should I worry about the Anima weapon?

[warped nest]

Anima is HW relic, it is good for glamour

It is no longer worth it for the stats

[gloomy ice]

Anima weapons are purely for glamour. Kind of a time sink but great in terms of looks.

[delicate stone]

Gotcha, thanks!

[mental garnet]

so i'm stuck between picking between a minion that i already have that's currently selling for 200k gil, a silver certificate, or 100k mgp for this week's wondrous tails

thoughts?

i'm actually kind of leaning towards the mgp

[weary umbra]

go for the mgp

[mental garnet]

👍

i was just thinking the first two options are basically gil

and mgp is more or less time gated

[indigo orbit]

Gil isn't that terribly hard to come by

[mental garnet]

yeah i haven't even tried making gil and i've had enough to spend on some glowy weapons and daily GC hq turnins

[indigo orbit]

Just playing the game you'll have enough to never need to walk anywhere or really have much trouble gearing up for most content

[mental garnet]

with heavy world hopping involved for those but still

right

the nine seals option is a bit underwhelming

500 poetics or a zonureskin map aka 38k gil for me since i'm not even in ShB content yet

meh, gil it is since i forget to spend and cap on poetics at least twice a week

[halcyon sleet]

So I just did what is probably a super common mistake but I feel I must reach out because god damnit
In my inventory right now are a couple dozen HQ crafts that were supposed to be white scrip turnins but I'm a damn moron and didn't toggle collectable mode so they're more or less useless, are they actually more or less trash now or is there any way to salvage this?

[little swift]

you can desynthesize them to hopefully get some items back from them

or you can sell them on the marketboard

[halcyon sleet]

In this case it's a level 78 GNB weapon. Feels like a pretty bad market.

[slate arrow]

Eh it's still a niche market and some lazy levelers might buy em

[gusty rock]

Gil isn't that terribly hard to come by
@indigo orbit
You buy 1 rock salt for 3 gil, convert to 6 table salt for 1 gil each. Pay the cost of durability but you can craft them naked and not wear it out on anything but the gear.

[leaden ginkgo]

How do you unlock beast tribe?

[indigo orbit]

Or you just do roulettes every day and never spend on anything but repairs and teleports

[gusty rock]

Teleports eats into your money faster

5.30 brings flying in ARR areas i think

[indigo orbit]

It's an insignificant amount but you can always just get aetheryte tickets

I think every single one of my Lv50+ alts has at least like 2mil just

playing the game

[gusty rock]

Well the lv20-30 stuff will never earn you enough, but if you can find a tradeleve that takes 1 item and gives gil you can spam it

[indigo orbit]

not actively farming gil

[gusty rock]

Yeah that is if you don't use gil to update gear often

[leaden ginkgo]

When do you get your first mount?

[remote lintel]

lvl 20

[gusty rock]

Lv20+ MSQ

Its after Ifrit fight

[leaden ginkgo]

Ifrit?

[gusty rock]

Well several quest after

[remote lintel]

after you get your GC

[leaden ginkgo]

GC? Whats that?

[gusty rock]

Grand Company

[remote lintel]

grand company

[gusty rock]

When you join a GC

[remote lintel]

if you dont know who ifrit is or what a GC is just keep doing msq

[indigo orbit]

Just keep doing the main story

You will be introduced to them

[leaden ginkgo]

Alright

[indigo orbit]

The game is pretty good at easing you into... the game.

[gusty rock]

The MSQ ends at lv50 right? Had i keep trial client i'd lose out on exp earned and can't proceed

Cuz of lv35 cap

[remote lintel]

trial caps at 35

and yes

for ARR

[little swift]

losing exp is a silly mindset

exp isn't finite in this game

[leaden ginkgo]

How long would it normally take someone to finish ARR?

[gusty rock]

My Dragoon is already lv34 and my MSQ is lv24 lol.

[indigo orbit]

Realistically like...

[remote lintel]

depends how much they play

[indigo orbit]

a couple weeks?

[remote lintel]

i finished the first part of ARR in less than a week

[little swift]

over leveling the msq is normal

[gusty rock]

I am on week 2.5 now for lv24 ARR

I end up doing other stuff

[indigo orbit]

Without Road to 70 you're only ever like

[leaden ginkgo]

What is the first part @cerebus ?

[indigo orbit]

a level or two over

[remote lintel]

there's ARR and then post ARR

then HW

then post HW

etc

[leaden ginkgo]

Ah ok

[little swift]

that's not true either mango

[gusty rock]

5.30 patch to fix the grind

Lol

[indigo orbit]

I've leveled a lot of alts

[little swift]

i'm doing a replay of the main arr story on a non-preferred server

i'm 8 levels over msq right now

[gusty rock]

If you NG+ do you re earn everything?

[little swift]

ng+ is for story replay only

[leaden ginkgo]

@indigo orbit What is the point of having alts since nothing is class locked?

[little swift]

no rewards

[indigo orbit]

Are you doing every side quest or something

[hot crane]

I am dumb. could anyone explains wat the text means?

[indigo orbit]

Sometimes I feel like being a cat

[little swift]

no i'm not

[indigo orbit]

Sometimes not

[remote lintel]

i made an alt so i could be a hot guy

[indigo orbit]

Sometimes I have friends on other data centers

[gusty rock]

I am dumb. could anyone explains wat the text means?
@hot crane increases Craft Points so you can take more actions while crafting

[indigo orbit]

I only really have one decently progressed character on each DC

[remote lintel]

they mean the error text

[little swift]

that materia cannot be used on slots other than the first 3 slots @hot crane

[leaden ginkgo]

Oh ok cool

[hot crane]

tyty

[gusty rock]

Oh it can't be Advanced Melded

[leaden ginkgo]

Also why does no one talk in general chat?

[little swift]

basically you can meld it onto the visible slots and the first overmeld slot

[remote lintel]

because people have private convos

[indigo orbit]

But I have the brand new ring and aetheryte earrings basically always

[remote lintel]

and people dont want their convos open for everyone to hear

[indigo orbit]

And if I'm powering through the MSQ I'll usually end up with a level gap somewhere around Coerthas

[leaden ginkgo]

No idea how to talk to other people

[gusty rock]

Rip ingame mentor system.

[remote lintel]

/tell

or by using a linkshell

or party chat

[little swift]

@indigo orbit i had that and the friendship circlet and a buttload of food/fc buffs

thats why i'm over leveled

[gusty rock]

Trial accounts are often the new players soo

[indigo orbit]

most of my alts don't have FCs

And I'm lazy about food

[little swift]

it was all given to me, jp is nice

[gusty rock]

Even if we had a better system ingame to mentor or for people to communicate, it will get filled with bots.

[leaden ginkgo]

How would I go about seeking mentoring or guidance?

[little swift]

you can shout in game for a novice network invite

or you can ask your questions here

we have lots of helpful members and mentors available to assist you

[gusty rock]

I tried the fishing job, but then notice that its mechanics are kinds redundant somehow... No minigames much at all?

[little swift]

fishing is just casting the correct bait and hoping rng favours you

[delicate stone]

Why does HW poetics exchange have level 255 and 260 gear that cost the same amount? Also where are the weapons? Currently in Ildyshire, am I in the wrong place?

[little swift]

the idea is using your GP to bump chances for you to get the right fish

[remote lintel]

weapons are at the girl to the right

weapon vendors are always separate

[gusty rock]

Yeah the weird thing is that you can do a fishing minigame easily by 'luring' fish in a ui screen... But i guess they took a easier way out.

[little swift]

weapons come from bertana @delicate stone

[delicate stone]

Ah, thanks!

[indigo orbit]

I think that minigame would get pretty old after 80 levels

[little swift]

also get the 260 items, they upgrade to 270 like the ironworks do

[delicate stone]

Oh you can upgrade them? I never realized that

[indigo orbit]

or even 50

[gusty rock]

You could have a quick fishing or a regular like crafters

[delicate stone]

I just stuck w/ Ironworks set until I hit 60 and bought gear in Ishgard cuz I was overleveld and hadn't reached Ildyshire yet

[gusty rock]

I guess that RNG is because you can earn more randomized valued goods than normal?

[remote lintel]

why would you use ironworks past like 55

[indigo orbit]

You randomly get HQ fish but

[little swift]

you should have replaced your gear with msq and dungeon gear by level 65 @delicate stone there is no reason to buy it from ishgard

[indigo orbit]

The type of fish you catch can be manipulated by your bait

[gusty rock]

Do you fish up treasure?

[little swift]

normal quality gear has crippled stats compared to its ilvl

you can also manipulate the HQ chance with

!action patience

[zinc orbit]

**Patience** : lvl 15 FSH (200 GP) (0.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Increases the chance of landing an HQ fish by 50% while reducing Hook efficiency by 40%.
Duration: 60s

Cancels current mooching opportunity.

Powered by XIVAPI

[little swift]

and patience II

[indigo orbit]

It's very possible to more or less isolate a certain fish if you have the correct bait

In the correct spot

[delicate stone]

I was already 60 when I got to Ishgard... so the MSQ gear was worse than the vendor gear at the time

[remote lintel]

why didn't you change class

[jagged crow]

What materia should I put on my blue mage gear?

[little swift]

vendor gear isn't worth ilvlwise for combat classes

!faq bluguide

[zinc orbit]

Blue Mage Guide 🐟

Info

1. Actions and Rotation Sim
2. Blue Mage General Guide
3. Masked Carnival Guide
4. Another Masked Carnival Guide
5. Blue Mage Utility Guide
6. Learned Spells Locations

[little swift]

darn it doesn't have bis

[delicate stone]

Gotcha, and I swapped to leveling my AST but that also hit 60 lol

[jagged crow]

Int?

[delicate stone]

I'm kinda terribly overleveled on 2 classes now (technically 3 cuz smn/scholar)

[indigo orbit]

There's no primary stat melds anymore

[desert ravine]

is it possible to join FC from another world? (Goblin => Bryn)

[jagged crow]

Oh

[indigo orbit]

If I were to hazard a guess BLU probably melds crit first

[jagged crow]

So what do I put on it?

[remote lintel]

no @desert ravine

[little swift]

!faq blubis

[zinc orbit]

5.x Blue Mage BiS

Info

Final sting/self destruct build
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/18EXY

Pure dps
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/18EY0

BLU DPS Mimicry BiS sets
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1f0Kkc20VaasVx_LHBMG9QP4vNp_N2QD7bBx8SqW2P2M/

High vit
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/18EY8

No crafted/dreadwyrm
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/18EY9

No pentamelds
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/18EST

[little swift]

depends on your build @jagged crow

[jagged crow]

I am normally running straight dps

so I guess pure dps

[little swift]

seems like crit and dhit are your best bet

[jagged crow]

which is more important

[little swift]

usually crit > dhit is the general guideline

[gusty rock]

Is "bad breath" a skill for blue mages? Or is it not in this game lol?

[indigo orbit]

Crit > DH > SpS > Det seems like the priority

it is

[jagged crow]

It is

and its broken

lol

I mean the whole class is but

My new fav combo is blk knight + wht knight

combo

[delicate stone]

I thought blue mage was a meme class?

[jagged crow]

it's nasty

[little swift]

for blu it isn't since the spells have their own cast time iirc

[delicate stone]

I've heard it does super well in some dg's like aurum vale, but not sure why lol

[little swift]

they're using it to farm for the current event

[remote lintel]

because it one shots bosses

[little swift]

for moogle tomestones

[gusty rock]

Loool it does?

[remote lintel]

it's absolutely broken

[little swift]

yes it does

[remote lintel]

you can just learn primal moves and bam

[gusty rock]

Bad breath is a notorious skill in the FF series and they are keeping it broken lol

[indigo orbit]

I'm pretty sure some Blue Magic benefits from SpS otherwise why would SE put it on the BLU artifact gear

[little swift]

you might be right

but blu bis from the balance doesn't use it

[gusty rock]

Is there charm or confusion affliction because i dunno if it works in pvp or whatnot

[indigo orbit]

I'm looking at the pure dps guide from that bot post

Confusion exists in the game but I don't think any player-castable spells have it

unless I missed a BLU spell

[little swift]

magus mask is 130 i'm looking at the google doc

[zinc orbit]

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[little swift]

i'm leaning on being wrong though

[faint lantern]

Is getting the collectors edition with the extras worth it or should I just stick to the complete?

[remote lintel]

up to you

[delicate stone]

Should I be using materia while in story btw?

[radiant brook]

how do you get the dyeable HW artifact job gear?

[remote lintel]

you can upgrade to collectors whenever @faint lantern

[jagged crow]

Why is the crit+ 0?

The rest of my gear isn't like that

[remote lintel]

because your CRIT is capped

[jagged crow]

oh

[remote lintel]

lmao

[indigo orbit]

Every piece of gear has a cap on its stats

[jagged crow]

Can you take a meld off?

[indigo orbit]

You can see it in the menu when you're melding

yes

[jagged crow]

How

lol

[remote lintel]

@radiant brook centurio hunts

[mental garnet]

me after grinding from level 10 to 15 as blue mage

[indigo orbit]

Right click the piece and choose "retrieve materia"

[jagged crow]

Nvm found it

I am dumb

[little swift]

so looking into it more, you want enough sps to reduce the 30/60 second cd skills like moon flute's recast a tad, but it doesn't apply to primal spells

so i was half right on my assumption

[faint lantern]

@remote lintel I can? In the mog station? I was reading in forums people wished they had bought the collectors because you can't get the mount, minion, and gunbreaker any way else

[indigo orbit]

there is an option to upgrade in the mogstation

[remote lintel]

yes at the mog station

[little swift]

you get like maybe 1 piece to reach 1 or 2 tiers of sps

[radiant brook]

where do you buy it doe

[remote lintel]

forgotten knight

or errr

augment them at idyllshire

[little swift]

centurio seals for the 60 AF gear

!faq afgeardye

[zinc orbit]

How to get Dyeable Artifact Gear

Info

A Realm Reborn i50/i55 set: Done in Mor Dhona by talking to Kakalan at x22, y6 after completing the quest 'Simply to Dye For' located at x22, y9. Augmenting a set of gear requires a total of 7 Augmentations matching the name of the set. Augmentations can be crafted or bought on the marketboard.

Heavensward i200 set: Done in Idyllshire by talking to Seika at x7, y7. The materials needed to augment the gear are buyable with Centurio Seals in Ishgard at the Forgotten Knight by talking to Ardolain in the 'Exchange Centurio Seals (Advanced)' option.

Stormblood i290 set: Done in Eureka Anemos by exchanging Protean and Anemos Crystals with Gerolt to upgrade the set. Eureka is unlocked in Rhalgr's Reach with the quest 'And We Shall Call It Eureka' and is accessed in Kugane by talking to Rodney at x9, y14.

Shadowbringers i430 set: Obtained from Idealized coffers in the trial Memoria Misera (Extreme). They can also be bought with High Legatus Idols obtained from the trial in Mor Dhona by talking to C'intana.

[faint lantern]

@indigo orbit @remote lintel Thanks!

[remote lintel]

yeah but they already have the gear

[faint lantern]

Does anyone know how much the upgrade to the collectors edition costs? It seems I can't see it unless already having the regular

[radiant brook]

thanks

[indigo orbit]

I think it's like $20

[remote lintel]

yes

[indigo orbit]

which is about the price difference between normal and CE regularly

[faint lantern]

USD?

[remote lintel]

yes

[faint lantern]

😮 Thanks 😊

[little swift]

its 20usd per expansion

bundled additively to 79.99usd

[faint lantern]

Says Shadowbringers Complete is 60 and Collectors is also 60 but Complete comes with 30 day game play

[remote lintel]

you mean collectors

[faint lantern]

So the price diff between the add items if I were to get collectors and the sub would be 15

No Collectors says it only comes with the items no 30 day game play time

[remote lintel]

there's no shadowbringers complete

only shadowbringers collectors

[faint lantern]

My bad I meant the complete as it includes the all the expansions including shadowbringers

[little swift]

complete edition should be the one that comes with 30days of playtime, since it includes the basegame

[remote lintel]

dlc doesn't give time

[nova umbra]

do the nier raids still have weekly reward caps?

[remote lintel]

no

only clusters

[little swift]

just the cluster zydico

[faint lantern]

Yeah Complete gives 30 and all the expansions + game time and Collectors gives all the expansions + items

Just wondering if the mount was worth it since I don't really know my way around the game yet

[little swift]

the mounts are cosmetics

they all move at the same speed

which is based on your mountspeed rank in a given map

[faint lantern]

At level 28-29 for my classes and read on this chat that I shouldn't hit 30 on any on free trial because then I'd lose the 1 mill gil bonus

[remote lintel]

there is no 1 mil gil

[little swift]

its fine to hit 30

there is

[gloomy ice]

Shadowbringers on its own already includes the two previous expansions, btw. Complete edition is base game + all three expansions.

[little swift]

for getting to level 30 on a preferred world

wait no

that's not the money

[remote lintel]

for new worlds

[little swift]

thats just the 15 day playtime

the money is from new worlds

[remote lintel]

which there are none

[little swift]

which we don't ahve any at this time

[woven night]

Im only planning on doing extreme trials, should i get full allegory tomestone gear?

[faint lantern]

wait really so the pinned messages were wrong? 😂
"1. If you started on a new server (not preferred), don't be on the trial when you hit level 30, or you lose out on 1 mil gil bonus."

[little swift]

where did you see this pin?

[remote lintel]

a NEW server

there are no NEW servers

[little swift]

it says New server

[gusty rock]

Does a Blue mage's self destruct give exp even if you died from it?

[gloomy ice]

The 480 crafted sets are sufficient for current extremes. Just be certain they're HQ.

[little swift]

you can grab allegory gear as you need

but its not a necessity to complete extremes

[faint lantern]

@little swift questions and help channel pins

[little swift]

you can do them all at minimum ilvl

[faint lantern]

@remote lintel Ohhhhhhh that makes so much more sense lmao

[little swift]

yeah i saw it soteria its only for NEW servers

[woven night]

Im an omni crafter, should i buy them off the mb or try to craft, rn the materials are more expensive then the product

[little swift]

ideally you gather the materials yourself as well to save money

but its a time versus cost tradeoff

[faint lantern]

🤦‍♀️ Thanks guys

[gloomy ice]

Although, yeah, they are remarkably cheap these days.

[woven night]

Most of the gear for my job is around 40k

[little swift]

and to be fair current neo-ishgard is not as important since we're 4 months into the tier

most people who still endgame raid are well past the need for it

even if you started late in this tier, you could have capped allegory a bunch to grab 490 pieces now

you could try making fancy glamours instead

[remote lintel]

40k is cheap

[nova umbra]

what should be my first few purchases with the white tomestones?

armor or stuff for weapon?

[remote lintel]

you mean the blue

allegory?

[nova umbra]

wait they're blue? lol

[little swift]

weapon from allegory takes 7weeks of Eden8 normal clears and 1k allegory to obtain

[remote lintel]

well the weapon would take you 7 weeks to get

[little swift]

or an E6S clear

[nova umbra]

oh okay, armor it is

[gloomy ice]

You get the tomes for it in three weeks. The reason it takes seven for the weapon is due to needing a drop from Eden 8 that you can get only once per week.

[nova umbra]

do I max out on critical hit here before going for determination?

[gloomy ice]

For the most part, yes. Although if the number turns red with even a single grade 8 materia, move to your next important stat instead.

[little swift]

i'd not slot a crit materia8 there in particular though, you lose too much out of the stats there

only gaining 22 of the 60 crit that materia is supposed to give you

[nova umbra]

okay, so determination is next best for healer right?

[little swift]

for healers its piety to comfort > sps to the tier comfortable to your play > crit > dhit > det iirc

[remote lintel]

sps

[little swift]

sps tier depends on your healer as well

[nova umbra]

hm... never really had an issue with mana or spell cast speed :x

never tried using spell speed

[little swift]

thats all minmaxing stuff that doesn't really matter if you aren't considering savage raiding and stuff

the people at the balance have crunched out the numbers that work best for a job to align their spells for buffs and such

[thorny spruce]

How do i get to Halfstone?

I need to go to halfstone for Hunting log

[little swift]

its in western la noscea

closest aetheryte is aleport iirc

[thorny spruce]

its in an island of sort

i cant get there

[gloomy ice]

It's NW from the aetheryte. Just keep following the coast and you'll reach it.

[little swift]

it should be reachable from limsa lominsa

[gloomy ice]

The highlighted section is Halfstone @thorny spruce

[quaint forge]

Handing over a high quality items seems worth it, yes?

[little swift]

yes, but its even more worth on ⭐ items

it can be quite difficult to complete hq supply/provisioning missions early but you can definitely do them if want

the reward is nice

[warped nest]

turning in hq in this context doubles your reward

[quaint forge]

The EXP seems large for a DoH and DoL

In early game though

[leaden ginkgo]

So at 50, i just farm the 50 dungeon for 20 poetics each run?

[little swift]

not a necessity

you'll naturally earn poetics from the lv50 roulette

and msq roulette

and MSQ dungeons

[leaden ginkgo]

How do i unlock the 50 roulette?

[little swift]

first time bonuses will also give oyu abunch

[leaden ginkgo]

Guess i need to grind the msq, put it off for a while was just spamming dungeons

[little swift]

you need to unlock at least 2 instances in a roulette to unlock the roulette

[leaden ginkgo]

Ah i see

[little swift]

MSQ isn't something you should be putting off to grind

[leaden ginkgo]

how does one tell if gear is undergeared? is it based on the character description or is there a set computation for ilvl vs character lvl?

[frozen karma]

does glamour only apply to one specific piece or armour, or can I just make a glamour set and use it whenever I want even during the story when I am constantly switching armour?

[little swift]

you can make glamour plates

[leaden ginkgo]

Iwas just doing msqs while in que, but yea i out leveled it pretty quickly tbh

[little swift]

!faq glamourdresser

[zinc orbit]

Glamour Dresser FAQ

Info

"What is the Glamour Dresser?"

The Glamour Dresser allows you to glamour an entire set of equipment at once when in a city or town. You can find the dresser in your inn room at any of the Adventurer's guilds.

"How do I use it?"

In order to use the Glamour Dresser you need to first put the items you want to use for glamour inside of it. This requires a one-time cost of one Glamour Prism per item. You're able to safely take out the items, but you'll need to pay another Glamour Prism to put it back into the Dresser. After you have put in the glamour items you want to use for your set you'll want to click on "Edit Glamour Plates".

When the plate window opens up you can select the stored glamours you have onto the slots of the plate to create the set you desire. Once you're satisfied with your glamour click on "Save". You can now apply your Glamour Plate by accessing the Character menu, clicking the Glamour Plate button, and choosing the Plate that you have made.

[frozen karma]

yeah I hate how certain armours look, especially since I'm a paladin and sometimes I have shorts with normal shoes and then a giant steel chest plate lol

[little swift]

using the plate to save a set as your glamour, and you can reapply that whenever you're in a main city or housing ward

[frozen karma]

I'm guessing it works for weapons also?

[little swift]

yes

there are restrictions to glamour though

it has to be something the job can equip, and the item being used as glamour cannot be higher level than the equipped item

so you can't wear lets say a black mages hat on a tank piece of gear

and you can't glamour a level 55 piece onto a level 30 piece

[tulip plover]

So i just rescued the scions am i almost done with ARR

[little swift]

what is the quest name?

[leaden ginkgo]

tempting to buy the msq skip for 1-50 sigh

[obsidian wren]

You can look up your current questname here and see how many theres left https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Main_Scenario_Quests

[little swift]

you're getting there

[obsidian wren]

Patch 2.3/2.4 or so msq starts getting pretty good

[leaden ginkgo]

its so brainless walking

Im at lvl 34 msq atm. at the Naval unlock

[marble drift]

is this your first mmo? most of them are brainless walking mate

[leaden ginkgo]

not my first

Im just not one for story so idc

I just want to play the game

not walking simulator

yea most mmos have a story line but its not as bad as this

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[lime geode]

Doesn't feel like that much walking so far to me.

But I like the story focus

[leaden ginkgo]

Final Fantasy's are all about story

[frozen karma]

what exactly are glamour prisms for? Does it cost one every time I change my glamour plate or how does that stuff work?

[leaden ginkgo]

Yea ive herd the story is pretty good, but sadly im not one for story

[proud willow]

You need a prism to add an item to your glamour dresser, and you can use one for a one-time glamour without bothering with plates

[leaden ginkgo]

Probably not the game for you then

[proud willow]

Applying or changing a plate doesn't require a prism

[leaden ginkgo]

idk ive been enjoying the dungeons and the general play. Just like raids

[lime geode]

Maybe a shooter like Destiny 2

It's a ton of fun to do the dungeons

[leaden ginkgo]

D2 was ight

[little swift]

i'd rather we not turn someone away from the game just because they are not enjoying the story

we shouldn't be hard discouraging use of story skips

if that's how someone wants to play that's perfectly fine

[leaden ginkgo]

I just like combat and raids/dungeons

[little swift]

and that's a fine aspect to enjoy for this game

it just so happens that the main draw for a majority of people is the story

that said, the story isn't without flaws

[leaden ginkgo]

XD

Alright. Take care o/

[lime geode]

I guess it's figuring out how to do more of what you enjoy and less of what you don't.

[remote lintel]

i mean other mmos have worse stories

saying ff14s is bad isnt an accurate statement

just because you think its long

[leaden ginkgo]

ive never payed attention to any story in any game

[remote lintel]

ok?

this game is 75% story

[leaden ginkgo]

Well id like to enjoy the other 25%. not sure why everyone getting uptight cuz i said i dont like story

[remote lintel]

becase it's a final fantasy game first and final fantasy games are extremely story heavy

and known for having amazing stories

so when some random person comes in here and just says meh whatever i dont care at all then its like ok

you can play the game ignoring all of it if you want

might as well just buy the shadowbringers skip then

[little swift]

this doesn't make it okay for everyone to gang up on them, if they're enjoying the game its all the same

[proud willow]

You don't need to go off on someone for not liking the story, let's drop it

[remote lintel]

i wasnt going off

i'm telling them why its generally frowned upon

[proud willow]

You can still drop it

[little swift]

it generally comes off as being uptight about it when more than one person brings up the same reasoning

[proud willow]

This isn't a channel for having that discussion

[little swift]

we'll leave it at that

[remote lintel]

then what was their question

[leaden ginkgo]

Was just wondering if i should stop doing dungeons and farm the msq cuz i hit 50 already and have nothing unlocked

someone answered already but that was it

[remote lintel]

wym farm msq

everything is locked behind msq

[little swift]

the answer is do MSQ, but questions been given that is it

[leaden ginkgo]

Like stop doing dungeons while doing msqs cuz its outleveling me. Just like stop running dungeons and focus on completing the 1-50 msqs

[remote lintel]

thats what you should do yes

[ruby solstice]

Hi, speaking of story.. can I watch it somewhere on youtube again? I mean whole story

[little swift]

if you're enjoying the dungeons so much considering just doing them on another job

@ruby solstice i think mr happy is doing a playthrough of the base game right now. there may be ways to watch bits of it as well

but you can also rewatch cutscenes in an Inn using the "Unending Journey"

and new game+ is available for most of the game except for A Realm Reborn

[ruby solstice]

I am not done with the story but I would like to rewatch the first part and haevensward

[remote lintel]

also if people dont want negative responses about story skipping or whatever then i think it's fair that they stop complaining about the game in a questions and help channel

[fresh lodge]

No

Giving people grief for skipping the story is never ok in this server

Some people just aren't interested in the story and that's ok, its not your place to tell them what to do

[remote lintel]

this channel is for asking for help?

[little swift]

I am not done with the story but I would like to rewatch the first part and haevensward
@ruby solstice you can do so if you have completed the main story of heavensward (not including the patch quests)

talking about ng+ btw

[ruby solstice]

@little swift great thank you

@little swift one more question the shadowbringres expansion includes stormblood, right

[little swift]

yes it does 🙂

[fresh lodge]

Correct

[dry ocean]

If I bought Crysta

Do i need to wait?

[proud willow]

Crysta should show up immediately as soon as you buy it

[dry ocean]

it doesnt show

I have the receipt

crysta is still Zero

where can I get support on this?

[atomic vault]

@ruby solstice once you get a second job you can do the New Game + quest I think which will let you replay I beleive

[proud willow]

NG+ doesn't have anything to do with picking up another job

@dry ocean you'd have to contact Square Enix support for that

it's possible that there's some reason there's a delay (non-US currency?), but I've never personally experienced any delay when buying Crysta

[dry ocean]

non Eu currency

It is also empty in the payment history which is alerting to me

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[dry ocean]

how long do I need to wait for the support to reply?

[thorny spruce]

i need help

MGP trader wont let me view his wares

I have 55k MGP

[obsidian patio]

The Gold Saucer Attendant right by the Mini cactpot person?

I think the one you're talking to is the one that lets you get your starting 500 MGP with gil.

[rare comet]

just downloaded shadowbringers after playing the free trial, and having a error that closes the game when I try to login saying an unexpected error has occured (16a)

[obsidian patio]

@rare comet are you playing on steam?

[rare comet]

yeah

already tried restarting pc

and unisntalling/reinstalling

[obsidian patio]

I can barely find any coheasive solutions besides verifying cache

[rare comet]

fuuuuuuuuuuuu

[obsidian patio]

uhh lemme ping hank on this one just incase he knows another

[rare comet]

alright

[obsidian patio]

@tender estuary Know any solutions to unexpected error has occured (16a) that isn't verifying the cache for steam?

[rare comet]

verify integrity of game files in steam options?

[obsidian patio]

...I may have forgot that Hank probably sleeps at a reasonable time of day and not be a night owl

yeah

[rare comet]

said option is grayed out

[obsidian patio]

[obsidian patio]

I don't know then. :X I only play on PS4 so all of my PC-related troubleshooting knowledge is purely through google-fu.

[rare comet]

damn

tried that myself, probably gonna wake up tomorrow and try reinstalling my nvidia drivers via windows

even though I just did that bc pso2 is a pain in the ass

.>

[fresh lodge]

Whats the question?

[rare comet]

ty for trying!

[obsidian patio]

unexpected error has occured (16a) error code when trying to log in

[rare comet]

unexpected error has occured(16a) upon login

yeah

[fresh lodge]

btw they turned off verify integrity for FFXIV because it would just delete the game

[obsidian patio]

can you take a picture of the full error code in case it shows other things?

sometimes it's related to DX9/DX11

[rare comet]

sure

..and out of curiosoity, why does it delete it?

[obsidian patio]

that's just how steam's verify integrity works

it basically reinstalls it

[rare comet]

wat

huh.

alright then

[fresh lodge]

Because the way it works is it compares your game files to the files on the steam server, but only the launcher files are stored on the steam server, so it would detect "erroneous" files and delete them

[rare comet]

and there we go