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deep sapphire
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A win win all around

modest moss
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the 5800x3d is better for gaming, can't dispute that, but it's not as far ahead as the intels are at basically everything else

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so eh, I'm happy

hard drift
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i mean 5800x3d beats a 12900k and rivals 12900ks smug

hard drift
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you literally just had to add 3d 😭

deep sapphire
hard drift
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i'm ready

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i just won't send you the thing lmao

deep sapphire
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THATS A FELONY

hard drift
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what felony

modest moss
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I should have never bought these parts

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and just bought a steamdeck

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smh

umbral moss
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I still want a small portable gaming platform to play vidya on when I go to gril's apartment 😔

hard drift
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you figure the steamdeck is 800p not even 1080

modest moss
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but it's kawaii

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cheap, kawaii, low effort

sly elk
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IT IS NOT

languid lava
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this was more hurtful than youd ever know

sly elk
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interestingly, the z690 board costs $200 more, so you're paying a total of $300 more

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but to even things out, I'd much rather cross-shop a 5900x and a 12700k

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and I'm sure the z690 maximus hero is worth $100 more by virtue of having better parts?

modest moss
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kyanche you could have saved a huge rant if you'd read the rest of the conversation

languid lava
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LOL

sly elk
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I am not rage ranting o_O

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sorry

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-gives everyone cookies-

languid lava
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also hi shue

modest moss
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Hank meant the 5800X3D

hard drift
modest moss
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hi hi

hard drift
languid lava
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WHY did you find this

hard drift
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i've had it lol

hard drift
languid lava
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and i dont regret it

hard drift
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lmfao

modest moss
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Bidori is a weirdo who keeps evidence

languid lava
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keep your shues on in the shower

hard drift
languid lava
modest moss
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idk what he's got on me, but there'll be something

sly elk
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to be fair

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people do wear sandals in the shower

hard drift
languid lava
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everyone has something on me

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tbh i make it very easy

modest moss
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I don't know if I'm relieved or insulted

sly elk
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like, if you use a public shower or at least a shared shower, yea shower sandals are actually recommended

hard drift
languid lava
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i have a TON on hank

hard drift
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same

languid lava
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a lot

modest moss
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I have this on you

hard drift
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that doesn't count 😭

languid lava
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ill have me on you

hard drift
languid lava
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cringeeeeee

hard drift
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lmao

languid lava
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jk im just moderately tipsy

hard drift
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been drinking my wine evilelmo

languid lava
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im on one too many rum n cokes

hard drift
jaunty light
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bido the alcie

hard drift
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i need to get some when i go to the actual liquor store

languid lava
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me neither, cancun all inclusive is treating me well

hard drift
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even on my bday, i had one drink

modest moss
hard drift
modest moss
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wow

hard drift
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i want to see some fancy drinks REEE

modest moss
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go out and dance

languid lava
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shue its a bunch of old@people here

hard drift
languid lava
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i came here to get drunk and massaged for free

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well

modest moss
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then why didn't you take bidori?

languid lava
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kinda for free

hard drift
languid lava
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the planning of this trip was a fever dream

modest moss
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@tired quest do you know kaiyo is in Mexico?

tired quest
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Yes

languid lava
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he does

tired quest
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He told me

hard drift
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lmao

languid lava
tired quest
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Hi tochi

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They* sorry

languid lava
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hi daisra

modest moss
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they're getting massages from old people

tired quest
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But theyre on an americanized resort do it doesnt count

hard drift
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😔

jaunty light
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yeah i like to live dangerously and go to the cartel resorts

modest moss
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probably drinking the wrong tequila

hard drift
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as long as it's not silver 🙏

tired quest
modest moss
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kaiyo just remember not to waste money on patron

hard drift
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man, i'm failing to keep up with my blackmail folder 😭

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i don't have many people in here smh

tired quest
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Am i there

hard drift
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nope i was just looking lol

modest moss
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if I ever go Mexico I'll just hang out with Isra and his bf

tired quest
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Good

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Ty shue

modest moss
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I bet they'd take me and my family to cool safe places

languid lava
modest moss
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get some culture going on

languid lava
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i was doing this at 16

modest moss
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you were getting massages from old people at 16?

languid lava
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that too

modest moss
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yikes

jaunty light
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sounds like a good time to me

languid lava
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i meant patron

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fuck patron

hard drift
languid lava
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100% promise hank drinks patron

hard drift
jaunty light
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tequila belongs in the sewers

languid lava
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the food here has been so fuckin good

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but the culture lackin

jaunty light
languid lava
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if hank says he drinks PBR

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that may be my last straw

hard drift
jaunty light
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or worse, steel reserve.. or even worse.. rolling rock

languid lava
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pabst blue rivbon

hard drift
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i have 0 clue what that is

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never even seen it

languid lava
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shit shit ahit beer

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like the definition of piss beer

hard drift
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lol

languid lava
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yeah rhat

hard drift
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i mean i personally don't like beer at all deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerp

modest moss
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Hank ^

languid lava
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@deep sapphire come defend your beer of choice

modest moss
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I bet he doesn't care

tired quest
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Hank drinks bud light

languid lava
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…ew

hard drift
tired quest
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He told me

modest moss
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I want his response to be 'a cold one'

languid lava
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im hoping he’s lying

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isra whats ur go to drink

tired quest
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Im not lying

languid lava
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oh god

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ew

tired quest
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@deep sapphire

tired quest
languid lava
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based and smart decision

hard drift
languid lava
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i should prolly do the same

tired quest
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Only way i can stay this pretty

hard drift
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lmao

tired quest
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Drinking affects me a lot

languid lava
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you dont get beauty sleep?

tired quest
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Physically

jaunty light
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have you tried working out extra hard

languid lava
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i think isra is bigger than i am

hard drift
modest moss
tired quest
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Ok

modest moss
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because we're cultured

jaunty light
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don't lie to us

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how many sugar cubes do you put in your tea old man

modest moss
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none

jaunty light
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how much milk

modest moss
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just a dash

hard drift
tired quest
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Shue are ur teeth crooked

jaunty light
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shameful shue

languid lava
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is shue a walking british stereotype

tired quest
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Yes

languid lava
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fuuuuck

jaunty light
modest moss
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no tea for daisy

tired quest
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Wtf

modest moss
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shut up

hard drift
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Shue saying bruh… I’m retiring 😭

languid lava
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bruh

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wait till shue starts saying brah

modest moss
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seriously Honk, think before you say dumb shit

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I'm not joking

hard drift
modest moss
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Brahdori

hard drift
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Time to die 😭

deep sapphire
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Sleep tight, steeler

languid lava
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hank you look young there

odd sand
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That room... disgustedaura

hard drift
languid lava
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based degen room

deep sapphire
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I bet he drives a Chevy

languid lava
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at least the man has deodorant on his desk

hard drift
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I’m leaving 😭 that pains me

deep sapphire
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Voted more reliable than Mazda

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Daily reminder

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We’re kings

languid lava
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but youre one of those problems

deep sapphire
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Damn

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That was pretty good

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I’ll give it to you

languid lava
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thanks

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im on a roll

deep sapphire
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Yeah no problem

languid lava
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(a drunken bender)

tired quest
hard drift
deep sapphire
tired quest
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Hi dad

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See

deep sapphire
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Hi son ilu

tired quest
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I told you all

deep sapphire
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Lmao his laugh gets me everytime

hard drift
deep sapphire
odd sand
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Ohno Truck-kun

deep sapphire
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Found you guys a truck

potent arrow
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I got it stuck

umbral moss
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just get a breaker bar and unstick it

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😮‍💨

sly elk
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Oh god

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Be careful with that

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idk why but every other house I've lived in, the pipe the shower head attached to wasn't secured very well

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so you kinda had to be careful to not rip the showerhead pipe off the main pipe >>

sly elk
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ya know

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The ASUS ROG Phone 6 has a ‘wireless’ thermoelectric cooler add-on

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i'm impressed, they put more effort into that than they do their laptops. lol.

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The company also provided some figures from more realistic scenarios. After a 60-minute session in the notoriously resource-intensive Genshin Impact (at 60Hz), "Frosty" mode lowered the phone's surface temperature from 44.8 degrees Celsius to 37.2, and "Frozen" mode took it down further by one degree. Under the same test environment, the ROG Phone 6 was apparently able to maintain an average frame rate of 59.7 fps while staying cool at 37.2 degrees Celsius in "Frosty" mode, whereas the iPhone 13 Pro Max apparently reached a lower 56.8 fps but higher 46.3 degrees Celsius, and the Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra allegedly only managed 47.3 fps while reaching 47.9 degrees Celsius. This goes to show how cooling is key to maintaining a stable frame rate over a long period.

dull garnet
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Lol

buoyant wasp
umbral moss
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poggin

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I'm glad people are using them to spread covid/political misinformation then

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good use of a finite resource

deep sapphire
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@potent arrow I’m gonna make the Milwaukee Frankenstein with my impact driver

potent arrow
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ohhh no LMFAO

deep sapphire
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The guy who invented it tested it with bolts torqued to 500 ft lbs and it took them off in 3 seconds

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Shit is insane

hard drift
modest moss
umbral moss
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I didn't know there was a 1440/165 display

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I thought the driver boards capped out at 144

modest moss
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it's allegedly overclocked to 180

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it looks kinda good though

hard drift
umbral moss
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helpful review video here

hard drift
real edge
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if you want my opinion on the lg display

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I tried a previous version of that same display years ago

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I went from a very fast TN to that and it had tons of motion blur

modest moss
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I'll watch that later when I don't have people running around

real edge
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I couldn't handle it and I returned it

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I have the samsung odyssey g7

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and I am very happy with it

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the curve ended up being a non-factor

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but the key thing is

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that your old monitor was already slow as hell

modest moss
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curve makes me nervous

real edge
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so you will not have the same problem as I did

hard drift
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most of the time curved isn't curved enough to matter except for marketing

real edge
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curve helps me see more of the games huds that are near the edges of the screen

modest moss
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curved seem to have better prices, and interesting that you're suggesting samsung and bidori said steer clear

real edge
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well

modest moss
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I guess it's just another subjective thing, your eyes like one thing, his like another

real edge
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my samsung g7 that I have is a unicorn

hard drift
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^

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it's really hit or miss lol

real edge
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it had 0 of the issues people recorded

umbral moss
real edge
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I went to the G7 and I did not notice any motion blur with the same specs

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on the same games

hard drift
real edge
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cause their QA is questionable

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my monitor is a unicorn

modest moss
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the G7 is more than I want to spend really

umbral moss
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samsung QA, good meme haha

hard drift
umbral moss
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although acer isn't any better

hard drift
umbral moss
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people were reporting getting XB270s with hair trapped between the panel and the matte screen

modest moss
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my current acer is great tbh

umbral moss
real edge
modest moss
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that's probably the closest way

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can shop around a little

real edge
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a notable thing I see on that list

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the review I linked previously is for the non-b version of the monitor you linked

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another thing I see

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that is what I noticed through a quick skim through that list

modest moss
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I'll skim through these later, I expect most of them will be fine lol

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I am tempted by the LG, but also speedy recommended the dell he has, I do like dell monitors

real edge
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I have not seen any notable dell displays as of late

modest moss
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I might just go a bit cheaper and get an AOC or something, idk

real edge
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I bought my monitor with the mindset that I am gonna be staring it a lot of the day so I might as well go for one of the better ones at a reasonable price point

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ultimately anything would be better than what you currently have

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but if you are planning on keeping this for a long time then getting a decent one would go a long way

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there are some good cheap displays as well of course

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the budget video has those

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the ones I linked are cheap as well

modest moss
real edge
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so you should find something to your liking

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that monitor is decent but its a fair bit old at this point in time

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overall its good

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but there are better ones nowdays

dull garnet
hard drift
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do you have actual gsync or just gsync compatible?

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oh wait nvm, that one says compatible deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerp

modest moss
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I'll watch those videos later but I think the LG looks a good bet

modest moss
hard drift
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Gsync means it’s verified by nvidia, compatible just means it can do it

real edge
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the review that I linked for the lg display is for the non-b version which is better than the b version, I will try to find one for the b version

modest moss
real edge
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ahh yeah

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there

modest moss
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there's the rtings review, they ranked it best midrange gaming monitor

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that's what's selling it to me

real edge
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its good at first glance looking at the review yeah

deep sapphire
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Milwaukee’s gen 3 impact driver is really leagues apart from the competition and it’s 3 years old

real edge
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the contrast is garbage tho

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but it should be ok for your needs

deep sapphire
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Even with a socket adapter that fucker has 200 lbs ft of torque for a compact tool that’s nuts

deep sapphire
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Milwaukee made a stubby M18 impact wrench and it’s pathetic lmao the M12 has more power and it’s smaller

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So you can mod the driver and make a stubby impact wrench that is as powerful as a mid torque

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How reliable it’ll be I dunno but the anvil is cheap so oh well

odd sand
real edge
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its a QA thing that varies between each display, one person might get this and another one might not, its a gamble

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the one I bought did not have such issues

modest moss
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I wouldn't buy VA, I'd rather have IPS

latent grotto
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microled when

real edge
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most VA displays suck

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only the odyssey line above g7 is good

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and better than IPS

hard drift
real edge
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2k+ contrast with good colors

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and amazing response times

latent grotto
hard drift
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The best for cheap is like 2k usd

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Oh wait micro

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Not mini

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Micro is still years out lol

hard drift
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And it was short lived

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That’s oled :p

latent grotto
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hope you enjoy your free monitor with that warranty you're buying

hard drift
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Lol

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Yikes

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Still no smh

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Too much screen

umbral moss
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not enough screen pogianger

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just give me a 120 inch 4k/144 display so I can see it from my basement

hard drift
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Git gud icehunter lol

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Don’t use chrome smug

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Yikes don’t use that either

modest moss
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honestly

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sounds like

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a

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skill

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issue

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yes

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git gud

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I can't wait to see what dumb minor issues I get

hard drift
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I mean it is your fault lol

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You setup the computer

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Imagine using google instead of bing /s

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🤢 google never

modest moss
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oh

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fans

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I haven't ordered any

umbral moss
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google sucks

modest moss
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I've just ordered that noctua and the case

hard drift
modest moss
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should I buy extra

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pack of those

hard drift
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How many do you have

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More than fine

modest moss
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5

umbral moss
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I should buy a few more of those 140mm LED fans, you know, just in case

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I got 19 of them for $5 a piece back in 2020 pogianger

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they're not the greatest fans but they're white LEDs with solid frames and good airflow/noise profiles

hard drift
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Leds 😔

umbral moss
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when you have so many of them it doesn't matter that they don't push 350 cfm haha

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I intend to tie up 12 of them on my dual radiator setup

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the rest are going to be used for my intake/exhaust on my custom sheet

umbral moss
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I require maximum cooling pogianger

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12x140 should be enough to keep the reservoir temp at ambient pogianger

hard drift
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Fan curves are easy

umbral moss
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I just hard wire my fans into the PSU and let them run at full power

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who cares

hard drift
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Why tf do you need help

hard drift
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With headphones not like you really hear them anyways lol

umbral moss
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I have two 230mm fans mounted externally on my current case

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they're 26dB a piece

hard drift
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Yes it is

umbral moss
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that's because one fan is quiet

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13 of them isn't

hard drift
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^

umbral moss
umbral moss
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with my single 2x230 I get to around 49C with ambient being around 22C

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that's GPU temp

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the radiator reading is fairly close, like 45-ish

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I also don't have a dedicated AC unit venting onto the radiators

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I'm pretty sure one or both of the exhaust 230mm fans that push air into the radiator are dead too, because my temps have spiked quite a bit in the last few months

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you want positive case pressure to push dust out of the gaps in your chassis

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I used to run a slight negative pressure from too many exhaust fans and the case used to get filled with dust in no time

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like a damn vacuum cleaner

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who would want a kingpin card so close to 40 series release wearycarby

kindred brook
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IS IT TIME

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BITE OR WAIT

dull garnet
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imagine buying a 3090 ti now

kindred brook
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its going to keep dropping right

modest moss
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Raz, just buy things

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even I bought things before you

dull garnet
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don't listen to him

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someone hacked shue's acc

modest moss
kindred brook
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HAHAHAHAHAHA

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DAD

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HOW

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kind of waiting for prime day >_>

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but this is tempting

deep sapphire
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Normally Milwaukee impacts are great it’s just the stubby for the M18 platform is kind of a joke when it’s bigger than the M12 and doesn’t make anymore power

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IMO DeWalt has the best stubby rn the new atomic they released earlier this year can do like 350-400 lbs ft and it’s really compact

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Light compact tools are really nice, sure it’s fun to use the big boys but they kinda fatigue your hand after awhile

odd sand
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I find most of the weight is the battery

vocal mountain
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Anyone here playing ff on an ultra wide? And do you like it lol

deep sapphire
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I find ultra widescreen better suited for single player games that don’t need a lot of focus

deep sapphire
vocal mountain
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I've been on the fence between like a 3/4 monitor setup or an ultra wide. The multi monitor would be cheaper by far though

deep sapphire
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Multi monitor would probably be better

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You can have a movie on or something while you do some endless grind in game

dull garnet
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you're limited to 16:9 during cutscenes

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look pretty dumb

sly elk
sly elk
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moon I usually don't have that problem

hard drift
modest moss
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@potent arrow you about?

potent arrow
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I have 2 exams every day for this week

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im

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really not alive

modest moss
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it's not that important, I just wanted to ask you about a monitor

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I remembered you saying don't buy LG, but rtings then said this LG is the best midrange monitor and my brain is smooth

languid lava
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im ngl i agree wholeheartedly with fuck LG monitors

modest moss
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but rtings

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smooth brain

languid lava
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wait shue

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whatre you looking for in the monitor

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pretty pictures?

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refresh rate?

modest moss
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yes

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my current monitor is 1080p 75hz ips

languid lava
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oh jesus

modest moss
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I bought 3070ti and ordered 12700k etc

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so this monitor is a bit eh

languid lava
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yeah we need to get you an upgrade

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im gonna lightly gesture you towards gigabyte monitors, theyve become quite popular lately + have a nice range of features

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as full bias disclosure: ive owned one, it came damaged with lots of screen tearing, told customer service, its been replaced and works well now

modest moss
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I feel like gigabyte have fallen off a bit in general

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they used to be one of my go to brands, but my mate has a gigabyte 3090 that's a bit jank, and that psu drama

languid lava
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fair enough, just wanted to give them a +1 on customer service side

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my issue with lg is ive heard nothing but bad things with viewing angles + their black levels

modest moss
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and it's pretty decent tbh

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just won't do justice to the new bits

languid lava
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heyyy i used to rock an acer as welll

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they still rank up there for me on cheap monitors

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exactly what you pay for

modest moss
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I could get an acer

languid lava
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ew

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no

modest moss
languid lava
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shue youve got big boy parts

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you need big boy monitor

modest moss
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I don't want to spend over £300 though

languid lava
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thats fine ezpz

modest moss
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that LG is 300 and rtings, etc

languid lava
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do you play at night?

modest moss
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I mean, I live on EST, so yeah lol

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from UK

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it's 1am now, I'll go bed 5-6am usually

modest moss
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hush Levant, I'm not a trust fund kid like you

latent grotto
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its all my own money tho

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But I feel like a $400 budget would open more options

languid lava
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why are you

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on this schedule

modest moss
latent grotto
#

oh

modest moss
latent grotto
#

i read 300 as freedom dollars

sly elk
#

yea if we want pretty pictures, I know the prettiest

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the next best thing being that alienware 34" OLED or an LG 42" C2

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the LG might have better pixel density

modest moss
#

yes that's super helpful, send me 5k

sly elk
#

34" 3440x1440 isn't that good :\

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like everyone's all like

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KYA YOU'RE BEING RIDICULOUS

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and they type that on their 5" phone that probably has at least a 1920x1080 screen

modest moss
#

I mean, when I say my budget is £300, suggesting an £1100 monitor is pretty unhelpful

sly elk
#

sorry I was not being serious in my suggestion

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you know I have a thing for that stupid monitor I will never buy

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-checks what shue is looking at-

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so you have a 1920x1080@75hz and want to go to a 2560x1440@170hz? that acer is even IPS. I don't see a problem

modest moss
#

as it is I'll probably buy the LG, but idk

sly elk
#

the LG has a height adjustable stand and the acer doesn't.. hmm what else

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i'd take the LG as well

languid lava
#

but shueeeee

modest moss
#

I usually have the light on

sly elk
#

it has 10-bit color, as well

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so the only reason I tend to not suggest LGs is in the US, dell/alienware monitors cost about the same and usually have 3 year warranties

modest moss
#

2 years on the LG

sly elk
#

yea it's not a night or day difference. IMHO LGs have better antiglare coatings

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and all the new dell monitors have a really annoying 60hz flicker for me

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i also like that dell/alienware had the 4 button thing with programmable hotkeys for say, switching inputs

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but they dumped that for the joystick thing just like lg

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that interface on my 8 year old 34" is awful and laggy. but I had a newer LG 34" at work that had a way more usable (faster) UI so, that's probably been resolved by now.

modest moss
#

hmm there's this dell at the same price as the LG

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3 year warranty

sly elk
#

another thing to consider

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LGs almost always use external power bricks

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I find this very annoying

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there's also a tradeoff between dell's ports-on-the-bottom and LG's ports-on-the-back

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nothing really important or exciting, but worth considering if that matters to you XD

modest moss
#

this Dell is quite tempting actually

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I do like Dell monitors

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have an ancient 23" dell ips that's still working

sly elk
#

hehe. in my house there are 5 dell monitors and 2 LG monitors

modest moss
#

that's interesting, I've just realised this Dell is actually the one @dull garnet has

sly elk
#

oooo

modest moss
#

he likes it but eh doesn't sound like he loves it

sly elk
#

wonder why

hard drift
#

but it's still lovely 🙏

umbral moss
#

my LG monitor occasionally just doesn't wake and I have to unplug it for it to power the panel back on properly

hard drift
#

wtf lol

umbral moss
#

yeah, it's wild because it doesn't tell windows that it's not responding

hard drift
#

you updated the firmware?

umbral moss
#

so you can move the mouse into the dead monitor area and windows considers it as "active"

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nah, it's a cheap $180 display I bought like 6 years ago when my last LG died

hard drift
#

rip

umbral moss
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I just use it to have afterburner diagnostics up

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it doesn't need to be fancy or have 9000 hz refresh rate

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turns on, displays diagnostics, perfect

hard drift
#

yeah, that's understandable

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i still need to update my damn monitor smh

umbral moss
#

I still wonder why the LG just refuses to turn on out of wake sometimes though

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such a weird issue

hard drift
#

idk, i've had issues like that before but mine was all fixed with a firmware update

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this new firmware version is nice 🙏

umbral moss
#

I don't think this monitor even supports that, it's old and pretty no-frills

hard drift
#

could always check, i know there's communities out there that if it's a common problem write their own firmware

modest moss
#

this LG still seems likeliest winner

#

did I tell you guys I fucking hate tech?

hard drift
hard drift
modest moss
#

fuck it yolo balls deep etc

hard drift
#

lol nice

modest moss
#

I'll build it by September

hard drift
modest moss
#

it's effort, because it's a knock on effect

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repurpose existing hardware etc

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move shit around

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set things up for the kids, blah blah

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tidy a desk

hard drift
#

lol

analog aspen
#

suggestion please

#

i only play FFXIV and Guild Wars 2.

potent arrow
odd sand
#

New Intel and AMD CPUs are coming out this fall that are supposed to turbo up to 5.5-5.8ghz so maybe wait a little bit?

umbral moss
#

new CPU generation should also come with a new AM socket, right?

#

we're finally going to AM5?

hard drift
#

yes and no

#

they haven't said fully what they plan to do with am4, they just said "we still have plans for am4" or some shit

umbral moss
#

yeah, with the 5800XDDDD or whatever

hard drift
#

nah, there is a rumor of more x3d products

umbral moss
#

I know

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that's going to be on AM4 because it's zen 3

hard drift
#

so maybe 5600x3d or 5900x3d evilelmo

umbral moss
#

zen 4 will be going to a new socket

hard drift
#

lets hope it stays there

#

there was a rumor of zen4 on am4 smh

umbral moss
#

you don't want another hamstrung CPU release on a socket that came out 7 years ago

hard drift
#

the absolute only cpu i would ever want to see on am4 from the new gen is 5600g but with rdna igpu

odd sand
#

Although not sure about the GPU. With crypto eating shit atm it's hard to say whether it will be cheaper to get a 30 series card that is dropping in price now or wait for the 40 series

hard drift
#

but that likely won't happen lol

hard drift
umbral moss
#

yeah, and 40 series will be the card we expected to get with the 30 series

hard drift
#

at the low low cost of a huge electricity bill

odd sand
#

Was 30 series disappointing? I thought it basically just made up for 20 series being disappointing bc it had like "2 gens of power gain" to it

hard drift
#

i mean it was for sure disappointing, they failed by having one architecture of gpus basically

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40 series will be gaming and server architecture

umbral moss
#

I just want to get a clean 2x my 10 series GPU

modest moss
hard drift
hard drift
modest moss
#

If it sucks I'll go full karen

hard drift
analog aspen
modest moss
#

You won't block me

hard drift
umbral moss
hard drift
#

a 3080 for ffxiv and gw2 is a waste

umbral moss
#

I expect power consumption to go up, but I get 2x perf so it's worth it

umbral moss
hard drift
hard drift
umbral moss
#

based

hard drift
umbral moss
#

I'm only getting 1440/90 out of my titan

hard drift
umbral moss
#

uh... 6 years?

hard drift
#

exactly namazuconcern

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almost 3 generations old REEE

analog aspen
hard drift
#

they're still keeping the damn ps4 around smfh

analog aspen
hard drift
#

that 3080 is extremely overkill

#

do you plan on going up?

analog aspen
#

might get a higher resu with 144hz or more after a year.

hard drift
#

i'd only go 3070/3070ti for 1080p/1440p

umbral moss
#

4k/144 pogianger

hard drift
#

i want 4k mini led 😭

umbral moss
#

although I don't know if I want 4k while windows hidpi still sucks shit'

hard drift
#

i need a good multimedia monitor

hard drift
umbral moss
#

opening mirc on my surface has these teeny little buttons everywhere because windows doesn't scale it correctly

hard drift
#

mirc?

analog aspen
hard drift
hard drift
#

we've been tied to the console pretty much since the game was (re)created

analog aspen
#

hmm since i doubt any new mmo can be as good of ffxiv and gw2 cough ashes of creation.. 3070 hmm.

hard drift
hard drift
analog aspen
#

only 8gb of 3070 ti is available 1080p or higher needs more vram correct?

hard drift
#

for those games no

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even at 1440p you'd be fine for most things

#

4k is where it would be questionable but depending on the game you could get by

analog aspen
#

im happy to get a stable 60 fps in populated areas in 4k xd.

hard drift
#

lol, at 4k especially if you go max, you'll be lucky to get 60 fps at times for populated areas

umbral moss
#

I should really finish my stupid fuckin case

hard drift
#

what's wrong with it?

umbral moss
#

it's a pile of raw wood boards and not a box

#

lmao

hard drift
#

namazuconcern wtf

umbral moss
#

I bought a board tray and backplane support, oh, uh, at least four years ago

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shortly before caselabs went under

hard drift
#

jesus smh

umbral moss
#

I didn't have a real work area to do the cuts with

#

was always a "you're going to need a house to finish this" project

analog aspen
hard drift
analog aspen
#

their lower the psu watts to 750 and swap the ram to 3600 couldn't find a cl16 in other brands mostly cl18.

hard drift
#

that's fine, CL won't matter too much for most users

umbral moss
#

CL doesn't really matter under anything short of benchmark conditions lmao

hard drift
#

yeah lol

umbral moss
#

like the dorks who benchmark their nvme drives

hard drift
#

evilelmo my CL 19 ram i got for 200 bucks is still chugging

umbral moss
#

"this one is faster by 250MB/s"

hard drift
#

and my ram has lifetime warranty uwucarby

umbral moss
#

great, you literally never use your SSD like a benchmark will

analog aspen
umbral moss
#

the average user's use case is like, "load a game for 30 seconds, idle for 23 hours"

hard drift
umbral moss
#

I mean, SSDs don't really get any use lmao

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it's one of those things that people made a big deal about having m.2 PCI-e 4x raid 0

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just to use it like 0.00002% of the time

modest moss
#

Don't tell ed I bought a 980 pro then

hard drift
modest moss
#

I didn't buy 2 though

umbral moss
#

I mean, they all come in m.2 now

#

my point is that people freak out over how fast it is when those speeds are only realized with sustained IO like you'd find in a data farm

#

the performance delta between a SATA SSD and nvme SSD is pretty small

analog aspen
#

USD 1680.50

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compared to my 1st build which is 2k USD.

hard drift
#

should be good 🙏

latent grotto
# analog aspen

looks good but a m-atx board is gonna look small in that case, also whats the cpu cooler nyaissa

hard drift
#

probably reusing their old one deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerp

analog aspen
#

Not using cpu cooler atm.

#

Do ryzen 7 runs hot?

hard drift
#

namazuconcern wtf you mean

#

All cpus need a cooler 😭

latent grotto
analog aspen
#

Im using a gaming laptop rn xd

#

And never use a cpu cooler other thn the stock.

modest moss
#

you need one

#

something like beQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 or similar

hard drift
sly elk
#

ryzen 7s don't come with a cooler in the box anymore, right?

hard drift
#

I don’t believe so

sly elk
#

yea I have bad news, the 5800x in particular runs quite hot.

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or at least, afaik it only uses the cores on one chiplet, so the heat is concentrated in one spot, and that makes it harder to cool

#

maybe I'm parroting bad advice but the thing I heard was to either do a 5700x or a 5900x

real edge
#

5800x here is 280 euro and x3d is 480euro

analog aspen
sly elk
#

❤️

#

there is a mighty big catch here

Among the latter is one of Stellantis' top designers, who has declared a plan to eliminate all screens from cars he designs in the future.

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THIS SOUNDS LIKE WHEN CAR DESIGNERS DELETE MIRRORS FROM THEIR DESIGNS

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and then the actual mirrors are uninspired shit

#

so it probably means excellent dashboard with an ugly af tablet sticking out

umbral moss
#

I do not enjoy those dips in GPU utilization while I'm playing overwatch 2

#

because they correspond to a complete client lockup

sly elk
#

that sucks 😦

umbral moss
#

to be fair, I'm using a driver from last year so maybe it's just a driver issue

paper tusk
#

current nvidia ones suck so not a big loss

umbral moss
#

sometimes a game comes out that actually requires updated drivers 😔

odd sand
#

Just saw the GN video about the Thermal Grizzly cpu mount. I wonder if something like that will be necessary for the Raptor CPUs or if they will have addressed it

hard drift
#

It’ll 100% be necessary if using a current motherboard

odd sand
#

And they mention LGA1700/1800 ... the 13th gen are supposed to have more pins but fit in the same dimensions I take it?

hard drift
#

And let’s be honest, not everyone is getting a new motherboard

odd sand
#

Maybe, but how many ppl replace a year old CPU usually?

hard drift
#

People who went budget for this reason deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerp

umbral moss
hard drift
#

Pfft nah

#

Windows 11 just needs tpm 2.0

#

That’s easy to get without going that recent

umbral moss
#

reminder you can still buy microsoft branded products that can't install windows 11

odd sand
#

You can technically semi-officially run Win11 on ones as old as 3rd gen bc some of those boards have TPM 2.0 headers on them

umbral moss
#

the notable failure is the surface book 2

#

which hasn't been refreshed yet, costs $2500, and can't run windows 11 pogianger

#

because of stupid ass TPM compliance

odd sand
#

And you can unofficially run Win11 on whatever you want almost, because if you do a small registry tweak and copy one DLL from a Win10 install into the Win11 folder you can install Win11 even without TPM at all etc.

umbral moss
#

and microsoft wants to go even further with pluton, which literally nothing supports

#

even motor trend knows that american auto companies suck at designing cars

#

spend $15 designing a car, it's a sales flop

#

see cars don't make money

odd sand
#

I'm still convinced american auto companies intentionally neglected their car platforms to pump SUV sales. Then use that to justify cancelling the cars bc the SUVs have higher margins

#

Bc Japan and Korea has no problems still marketing cars (even though they do offer quite a few SUVs these days as well)

umbral moss
#

I'm 200% certain that's the case

#

GM hasn't designed their own small car in, uh, 50 years?

#

it's either holden or daewoo

#

and since daewoo was a shit brand like hyundai in the early 90s, you can guess why GM cars are garbage

deep sapphire
#

Probably the most badass looking car in the modern era

umbral moss
#

I like the challenger more 😮‍💨

deep sapphire
#

obb

modest moss
#

yay my wifes pc is fucked, I get to do a fresh install

#

I hate technology

#

it sucks

#

I should return everything

#

just buy a new phone

#

play mobile gachas

odd sand
#

What did she do

sly elk
#

every other fuckwad that does that shit seems to have a jeep now

modest moss
odd sand
#

Although it is Texas so it could be both

wise oriole
#

would se ever add DLSS to the game?

#

does that even work with mmos?

#

Or FSR whatever

hard drift
hard drift
#

FSR would work better more than likely but even then not worth it

#

the game takes nothing to run anyways

wise oriole
#

yeah but aren't they going to overhaul the graphics eventually?

#

or so I have heard

hard drift
#

not that much

#

they plan on having ps4 still

#

the game won't be much better anyways

#

ps4 is dirt compared to a lot of pcs these days

wise oriole
#

yeah and in japan no one has a pc

#

good point

sly elk
inland mauve
#

what makes someone go "I will murder you" at a cyclist

#

making the decision to take someone's life because they're on a bike

#

imo someone who decides that is not fit to have a driver's licence

sly elk
#

yea for sure

sly elk
#

i like

modest moss
#

I think that's ugly af

sharp star
#

Alright in need of a bit of advice for Steam Deck microSD cards. 512GB fine for the 512GB model or can I push it to 1TB

#

I can go for 1TB but I don't really wanna install that many games on it

umbral moss
#

catch them on the sidewalk going 30mph on those fucking e-bikes and cursing at pedestrians

#

catch them in main car-only roadways running stop signs and red lights

#

and cutting through traffic

#

fuck bicyclists

modest moss
bitter girder
#

lucozade

umbral moss
#

then they give you the finger because you're on the sidewalk

sharp star
umbral moss
#

fuck you, go in the bike lane, that's why we had to waste half the street on it

sharp star
#

idk if this still holds up

umbral moss
#

boring ass foot powered bikes aren't any slower

#

messengers on bikes used to be doing 15-20mph if they were in good shape

modest moss
#

sounds like you need a bike

umbral moss
#

and they also rode wherever the fuck they wanted

#

sidewalks aren't bike lanes

#

and if you're in the road you can't just run red lights because "eh, I'm on a bike, those rules are for cars"

#

I considered getting an ebike lmao

hard drift
umbral moss
#

30mph top speed plus you can get exercise and a 62 mile electric range

#

could go to gril's apartment and fold that shit up to recharge

#

but it's $3500 wearycarby

umbral moss
#

give me that 4090 ti though, 2x titan xp performance pogianger

hard drift
umbral moss
#

oh, you mean like what happened with the 10 series?

hard drift
#

yeah

umbral moss
#

the 20 series arrived at some stupid fucking price regime and everyone was like "fuck that, we'll just buy 10 series cards"

hard drift
#

yup

umbral moss
#

but nvidia still raised prices to the 20 series level anyway

#

so ultimately the consumers will complain but their vote doesn't matter

hard drift
#

i mean 20 series was stupid anyways lol

#

it brought basically nothing for actual gains

#

not to mention 20 series was what started these prices

umbral moss
#

because a third of the die is tied up in non-gaming functions to enable all the compute functionality nvidia intentionally removed from their geforce series to drive prosumer users towards the tesla product

#

if only nvidia had used a unified compute architecture like fermi

hard drift
#

we don't want the grill back 😭

umbral moss
#

member when FP64 GPGPU calculations were 1/3 in fermi, and 1/64 in turing?

#

pepperidge farm remembers

hard drift
#

lmao

#

i have hope 40 series will actually be better than the gains they've been bringing recently but if those are the prices, it's a moot point since 20 series didn't do too well and this would be another 20 series basically

umbral moss
#

if it brings 1:1 RTX on/off at 4k it'll be worth it

hard drift
#

it won't

umbral moss
#

with a boost clock of 2.5GHz it better lmao

hard drift
#

i mean yeah it better but it 100% won't lmao

deep sapphire
#

You don’t want FP64 it does fuck all for gaming and takes up more die

#

A good gaming GPU is designed to do 1 thing, push pixels as fast as possible

fallow yoke
#

Anyone have experience running XIV on Steam Deck? I can get past launcher, but after selecting data center I get stuck on black screen with loading circle

deep sapphire
#

FP32 is better around that

umbral moss
#

it's just re-adding the compute functions nvidia removed

hard drift
umbral moss
#

RTX is all computational, it's not pixel pushing

hard drift
#

they do have a point on this one hank sadly 😔

fallow yoke
deep sapphire
#

RTX uses a different chip on the card

umbral moss
#

all the whiz-bang "machine learning" and "AI" stuff nvidia is hyping is just compute power from the tensor cores

deep sapphire
#

The main die is primarily rasterization

hard drift
#

then type after that what you are looking for, this case being steamdeck

fallow yoke
#

that got it thanks

umbral moss
#

imagine if the whole die was capable of compute or pixel pushing

deep sapphire
#

FP64 is why AMD never had any decent gaming GPUs until they introduced Navi

deep sapphire
#

But they did great in heavy computation

hard drift
#

vega was great considering that people no longer give a shit about powerdraw anymore /s

umbral moss
#

AMD's GPGPU approach is why they can still use raytracing even though it's not optimized for their uarch

deep sapphire
#

Vega was dog shit and you know it lol

#

HBM was a meme

umbral moss
#

nvidia would just be like "ugh, compute" and eat shit

hard drift
#

pushing the power for more performance

deep sapphire
#

Yeah

#

More performance

hard drift
#

instead of creating a good architecture namazuconcern

deep sapphire
hard drift
deep sapphire
#

Well yeah it’s a tok architecture

#

They always do this

hard drift
#

i mean it still was a lot better namazuconcern

deep sapphire
#

Vega had high bandwidth computational power which translated to no gaming benefit

hard drift
#

amd really had nothing except vega for high performance because gcn is so shit

deep sapphire
#

Computation has no relevance to rasterization performance

hard drift
hard drift
deep sapphire
#

Ray tracing in its current incarnation wasnt a thing during that time

#

And even then that’s a niche feature few care about

hard drift
#

true, it's still too taxing to really care

deep sapphire
#

A CPU is designed to compute, a GPU should be designed to push a lot of pixels

#

That design works and should continue the trend

#

Nobody gives a fuck about GPGPU except niche industries and schools

hard drift
deep sapphire
#

Handicapped by AMD chipsets I’m sure

hard drift
umbral moss
#

raytracing makes a lot of back-end game development a lot easier

#

because you can just set physical rules and let the engine do the lightmaps in real time

#

instead of having to bake them all as part of the map

#

I would be very surprised to see games using non-RT lighting schemes in the future, it's just easier

potent arrow
umbral moss
#

I bought a milwaukee drill and my junior engineer was like "nice, spending money on the good stuff" when I gave it to him

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

I have a dewalt at home

#

dewalt routers have an OK reputation, they're cheaper than festool so I make do

potent arrow
#

My hot take is that festool is pretty much only good for their cutting implements and specialty joiner tools

umbral moss
#

is that a hot take?

#

I don't know from tools, I just buy whatever I can afford

#

I'm not a brand apologist

deep sapphire
hard drift
umbral moss
#

is dewalt good? who knows

#

it's cheap and I have a few batteries so that's what I use now

potent arrow
hard drift
potent arrow
#

I do however like Milwaukee, they are expensive but I know at the end of the day they'll get the job done and not crap out on me

umbral moss
#

even if you are a hard power tool user you'll end up breaking shittier ones anyway

potent arrow
#

Y'all fuck around with PCs I just buy whatever is good price to performance : P

#

Which in the last two years or so has been amd.

umbral moss
#

I just build one top of the line machine every decade or so

potent arrow
hard drift
#

Hope intel can actually compete 😭

umbral moss
#

the performance depreciation begins as soon as you click "buy" so you may as well get the most life you can out of the parts

#

I have so many pumps and reservoirs for my new build lmao

potent arrow
#

I mean I complain a lot but uhm, I don't think I need to replace my computer anytime soon

hard drift
#

Did you ever do the fans?

umbral moss
#

I put this together in a hurry because I killed my pc in 2016

#

so this is weird unoptimized junk other than the light OC and watercooling adapter