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the 5800x3d is better for gaming, can't dispute that, but it's not as far ahead as the intels are at basically everything else
so eh, I'm happy
i mean 5800x3d beats a 12900k and rivals 12900ks 
given the price at msrp for 12900ks vs a 5800x3d it's pretty damn good 🙏
you literally just had to add 3d 😭
THATS A FELONY
what felony
I still want a small portable gaming platform to play vidya on when I go to gril's apartment 😔
you would be getting horrible performance vs what you are now lol
you figure the steamdeck is 800p not even 1080
IT IS NOT
this was more hurtful than youd ever know
interestingly, the z690 board costs $200 more, so you're paying a total of $300 more
but to even things out, I'd much rather cross-shop a 5900x and a 12700k
and I'm sure the z690 maximus hero is worth $100 more by virtue of having better parts?
kyanche you could have saved a huge rant if you'd read the rest of the conversation
LOL
also hi shue
Hank meant the 5800X3D
hi hi

i've had it lol
and i dont regret it
lmfao
Bidori is a weirdo who keeps evidence
keep your shues on in the shower

idk what he's got on me, but there'll be something
i have nothing on you
I don't know if I'm relieved or insulted
like, if you use a public shower or at least a shared shower, yea shower sandals are actually recommended
i wonder who has what on me 
i have a TON on hank
same
a lot
I have this on you
that doesn't count 😭
go ahead
cringeeeeee
lmao
im on one too many rum n cokes
i don't have rum or coke 😭
bido the alcie
i need to get some when i go to the actual liquor store
i haven't even gotten drunk since i became legal smh
even on my bday, i had one drink
you're in Mexico at an all inclusive resort and you're in a fucking nerd MMO discord?
LMFAO
yes.
its an issue
send pics 🙏
wow
i want to see some fancy drinks 
go out and dance
shue its a bunch of old@people here
old people can be nice 🙏
then why didn't you take bidori?
kinda for free
nobody ever takes me 😔
the planning of this trip was a fever dream
@tired quest do you know kaiyo is in Mexico?
Yes
he does
He told me
lmao

they're getting massages from old people
But theyre on an americanized resort do it doesnt count
😔
yeah i like to live dangerously and go to the cartel resorts
probably drinking the wrong tequila
as long as it's not silver 🙏
Not this again lol
kaiyo just remember not to waste money on patron
man, i'm failing to keep up with my blackmail folder 😭
i don't have many people in here smh
Am i there
nope i was just looking lol
if I ever go Mexico I'll just hang out with Isra and his bf
I bet they'd take me and my family to cool safe places
long past this stage
get some culture going on
i was doing this at 16
you were getting massages from old people at 16?
that too
yikes
sounds like a good time to me

100% promise hank drinks patron
hank probably drinks the cheapest of beer 🤢
tequila belongs in the sewers
im ngl this was a huge mistake
the food here has been so fuckin good
but the culture lackin
@deep sapphire for sure is a PBR drinker
wtf is pbr
or worse, steel reserve.. or even worse.. rolling rock
pabst blue rivbon
lol
yeah rhat
i mean i personally don't like beer at all 
Hank ^
@deep sapphire come defend your beer of choice
I bet he doesn't care
Hank drinks bud light
…ew
piss water
He told me
I want his response to be 'a cold one'
@deep sapphire
I dont drink
based and smart decision
shame
i should prolly do the same
Only way i can stay this pretty
lmao
Drinking affects me a lot
you dont get beauty sleep?
Physically
have you tried working out extra hard

drink tea with me
Ok
because we're cultured
none
how much milk
just a dash
Who tf puts sugar in tea
Shue are ur teeth crooked
shameful shue
is shue a walking british stereotype
Yes
fuuuuck
terrible people, terrorists, criminals, the english
no tea for daisy
Wtf
Shue saying bruh… I’m retiring 😭
I’ll be dead
Brahdori
Time to die 😭
hank you look young there
That room... 
Wtf hank
based degen room
I bet he drives a Chevy
at least the man has deodorant on his desk
I’m leaving 😭 that pains me
but youre one of those problems
Yeah no problem
(a drunken bender)
🙏 drunk club
True
Hi son ilu
I told you all
Lmao his laugh gets me everytime
You disgust me
Ohno Truck-kun
Oh god
Be careful with that
idk why but every other house I've lived in, the pipe the shower head attached to wasn't secured very well
so you kinda had to be careful to not rip the showerhead pipe off the main pipe >>
ya know
The ASUS ROG Phone 6 has a ‘wireless’ thermoelectric cooler add-on
i'm impressed, they put more effort into that than they do their laptops. lol.
The company also provided some figures from more realistic scenarios. After a 60-minute session in the notoriously resource-intensive Genshin Impact (at 60Hz), "Frosty" mode lowered the phone's surface temperature from 44.8 degrees Celsius to 37.2, and "Frozen" mode took it down further by one degree. Under the same test environment, the ROG Phone 6 was apparently able to maintain an average frame rate of 59.7 fps while staying cool at 37.2 degrees Celsius in "Frosty" mode, whereas the iPhone 13 Pro Max apparently reached a lower 56.8 fps but higher 46.3 degrees Celsius, and the Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra allegedly only managed 47.3 fps while reaching 47.9 degrees Celsius. This goes to show how cooling is key to maintaining a stable frame rate over a long period.
Lol
Fun fact: QR codes are 80% depleted and will run out around 2025
41039
1431
poggin
I'm glad people are using them to spread covid/political misinformation then
good use of a finite resource
@potent arrow I’m gonna make the Milwaukee Frankenstein with my impact driver
ohhh no LMFAO
The guy who invented it tested it with bolts torqued to 500 ft lbs and it took them off in 3 seconds
Shit is insane

https://videocardz.com/newz/asrock-now-offers-amd-and-intel-wi-fi-6e-network-upgrade-cards-for-its-latest-motherboards this is pretty neat despite being asrock
Sarah help... rtings says this is the best midrange 1440p monitor but you said don't buy LG
I didn't know there was a 1440/165 display
I thought the driver boards capped out at 144
we already have 1440p 240 displays
maybe TN displays 
no, ips
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helpful review video here
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08LR145ZY?tag=finaldesktopcom-20 this is just one of the big names but eve and such has 280 ones coming
if you want my opinion on the lg display
I tried a previous version of that same display years ago
I went from a very fast TN to that and it had tons of motion blur
I'll watch that later when I don't have people running around
I couldn't handle it and I returned it
I have the samsung odyssey g7
and I am very happy with it
the curve ended up being a non-factor
but the key thing is
that your old monitor was already slow as hell
curve makes me nervous
so you will not have the same problem as I did
most of the time curved isn't curved enough to matter except for marketing
curve helps me see more of the games huds that are near the edges of the screen
curved seem to have better prices, and interesting that you're suggesting samsung and bidori said steer clear
well
I guess it's just another subjective thing, your eyes like one thing, his like another
my samsung g7 that I have is a unicorn
it had 0 of the issues people recorded
I still think you didn't have the framerate high enough, I don't see motion blur and my eyes are sensitive enough to detect line hum on a monitor
I went to the G7 and I did not notice any motion blur with the same specs
on the same games
and i will say, my monitor is an LG panel although handled by a different company and it works fine 🙏
my advice would be for samsung displays, always buy from places with a no hassle 14 day return policy
cause their QA is questionable
my monitor is a unicorn
the G7 is more than I want to spend really
samsung QA, good meme 

although acer isn't any better
they have the g5 although idk if it's good or bad as i don't remember the specs on it
people were reporting getting XB270s with hair trapped between the panel and the matte screen
my current acer is great tbh

may I see a list of displays that are on sale over there?
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a notable thing I see on that list
the review I linked previously is for the non-b version of the monitor you linked
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another thing I see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDPq0uHNTyo&list=PL7m5C6_P_lnXb9cHwdo0Ct1TTZ7KUwm3e&index=3 this too
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that is what I noticed through a quick skim through that list
I'll skim through these later, I expect most of them will be fine lol
I am tempted by the LG, but also speedy recommended the dell he has, I do like dell monitors
I have not seen any notable dell displays as of late
I might just go a bit cheaper and get an AOC or something, idk
I bought my monitor with the mindset that I am gonna be staring it a lot of the day so I might as well go for one of the better ones at a reasonable price point
ultimately anything would be better than what you currently have
but if you are planning on keeping this for a long time then getting a decent one would go a long way
there are some good cheap displays as well of course
the budget video has those
the ones I linked are cheap as well
this is the one @dull garnet has, https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dell-S2721DGFA-Compatible-DisplayPort-Adjustable/dp/B08NFBKNMY/
so you should find something to your liking
that monitor is decent but its a fair bit old at this point in time
overall its good
but there are better ones nowdays
It is alright but tbh I'm not sure I'd recommend it. Had it nearly 2 years now and might consider a jump to a large 4K display for the desktop real estate. High Hz doesn't bother me so much, although g-sync is gr8
do you have actual gsync or just gsync compatible?
oh wait nvm, that one says compatible 
I'll watch those videos later but I think the LG looks a good bet
doesn't matter to me anyway, does it? my gpu says NVIDIA G-SYNC Yes
Your gpu supports it yeah but the difference is how it’s done and certified
Gsync means it’s verified by nvidia, compatible just means it can do it
the review that I linked for the lg display is for the non-b version which is better than the b version, I will try to find one for the b version
there's the rtings review, they ranked it best midrange gaming monitor
that's what's selling it to me
its good at first glance looking at the review yeah
Milwaukee’s gen 3 impact driver is really leagues apart from the competition and it’s 3 years old
Even with a socket adapter that fucker has 200 lbs ft of torque for a compact tool that’s nuts
poggin
Milwaukee made a stubby M18 impact wrench and it’s pathetic lmao the M12 has more power and it’s smaller
So you can mod the driver and make a stubby impact wrench that is as powerful as a mid torque
How reliable it’ll be I dunno but the anvil is cheap so oh well
I have the 1/2" drive M18 impact wrench from like 5-7 years ago, did I get the dud one then? heh
https://tftcentral.co.uk/recommendations/tftcentral-recommendations-list-gaming-monitors check out this website as well
its a QA thing that varies between each display, one person might get this and another one might not, its a gamble
the one I bought did not have such issues
I wouldn't buy VA, I'd rather have IPS
microled when
They already have it, not cheap though
wasn't it like $30k
The best for cheap is like 2k usd
Oh wait micro
Not mini
Micro is still years out lol
More than that
And it was short lived
That’s oled :p
not enough screen 
just give me a 120 inch 4k/144 display so I can see it from my basement
Wtf 
honestly
sounds like
a
skill
issue
yes
git gud
I can't wait to see what dumb minor issues I get
I mean it is your fault lol
You setup the computer
Imagine using google instead of bing /s
🤢 google never
google sucks
I've just ordered that noctua and the case
Just get some cheap ones that get the job done
should I buy extra
I have these https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NTUJRHK
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pack of those
5
I should buy a few more of those 140mm LED fans, you know, just in case
I got 19 of them for $5 a piece back in 2020 
they're not the greatest fans but they're white LEDs with solid frames and good airflow/noise profiles
Leds 😔
when you have so many of them it doesn't matter that they don't push 350 cfm 
I intend to tie up 12 of them on my dual radiator setup
the rest are going to be used for my intake/exhaust on my custom sheet
I require maximum cooling 
12x140 should be enough to keep the reservoir temp at ambient 
Fan curves are easy
Why tf do you need help
Same 🙏 full speed ftw
With headphones not like you really hear them anyways lol
Yes it is
^

with my single 2x230 I get to around 49C with ambient being around 22C
that's GPU temp
the radiator reading is fairly close, like 45-ish
I also don't have a dedicated AC unit venting onto the radiators
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I'm pretty sure one or both of the exhaust 230mm fans that push air into the radiator are dead too, because my temps have spiked quite a bit in the last few months
you want positive case pressure to push dust out of the gaps in your chassis
I used to run a slight negative pressure from too many exhaust fans and the case used to get filled with dust in no time
like a damn vacuum cleaner
who would want a kingpin card so close to 40 series release 
imagine buying a 3090 ti now

No lmao this came out like a year ago
Normally Milwaukee impacts are great it’s just the stubby for the M18 platform is kind of a joke when it’s bigger than the M12 and doesn’t make anymore power
IMO DeWalt has the best stubby rn the new atomic they released earlier this year can do like 350-400 lbs ft and it’s really compact
Light compact tools are really nice, sure it’s fun to use the big boys but they kinda fatigue your hand after awhile
I find most of the weight is the battery
Anyone here playing ff on an ultra wide? And do you like it lol
As long as you center your HUD elements it’s not too bad
I find ultra widescreen better suited for single player games that don’t need a lot of focus
Should’ve dunked it in acetone and got Milwaukee
I've been on the fence between like a 3/4 monitor setup or an ultra wide. The multi monitor would be cheaper by far though

Multi monitor would probably be better
You can have a movie on or something while you do some endless grind in game
moon I usually don't have that problem
This was me doing my senior project 😭
@potent arrow you about?
it's not that important, I just wanted to ask you about a monitor
I remembered you saying don't buy LG, but rtings then said this LG is the best midrange monitor and my brain is smooth
im ngl i agree wholeheartedly with fuck LG monitors
oh jesus
yeah we need to get you an upgrade
im gonna lightly gesture you towards gigabyte monitors, theyve become quite popular lately + have a nice range of features
as full bias disclosure: ive owned one, it came damaged with lots of screen tearing, told customer service, its been replaced and works well now
I feel like gigabyte have fallen off a bit in general
they used to be one of my go to brands, but my mate has a gigabyte 3090 that's a bit jank, and that psu drama
fair enough, just wanted to give them a +1 on customer service side
my issue with lg is ive heard nothing but bad things with viewing angles + their black levels
https://www.acer.com/ac/en/GB/content/model/UM.HV0EE.020 is my current
and it's pretty decent tbh
just won't do justice to the new bits
heyyy i used to rock an acer as welll
they still rank up there for me on cheap monitors
exactly what you pay for
I could get an acer
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I don't want to spend over £300 though
thats fine ezpz
that LG is 300 and rtings, etc
do you play at night?
I mean, I live on EST, so yeah lol
from UK
it's 1am now, I'll go bed 5-6am usually
hush Levant, I'm not a trust fund kid like you
wait wtf shue
why are you
on this schedule
$400 is about £300
eh just have been forever
yea if we want pretty pictures, I know the prettiest
the next best thing being that alienware 34" OLED or an LG 42" C2
the LG might have better pixel density
yes that's super helpful, send me 5k
34" 3440x1440 isn't that good :\
like everyone's all like
KYA YOU'RE BEING RIDICULOUS
and they type that on their 5" phone that probably has at least a 1920x1080 screen
I mean, when I say my budget is £300, suggesting an £1100 monitor is pretty unhelpful
sorry I was not being serious in my suggestion
you know I have a thing for that stupid monitor I will never buy
-checks what shue is looking at-
so you have a 1920x1080@75hz and want to go to a 2560x1440@170hz? that acer is even IPS. I don't see a problem
as it is I'll probably buy the LG, but idk
the LG has a height adjustable stand and the acer doesn't.. hmm what else
i'd take the LG as well
I usually have the light on
it has 10-bit color, as well
so the only reason I tend to not suggest LGs is in the US, dell/alienware monitors cost about the same and usually have 3 year warranties
2 years on the LG
yea it's not a night or day difference. IMHO LGs have better antiglare coatings
and all the new dell monitors have a really annoying 60hz flicker for me
i also like that dell/alienware had the 4 button thing with programmable hotkeys for say, switching inputs
but they dumped that for the joystick thing just like lg
that interface on my 8 year old 34" is awful and laggy. but I had a newer LG 34" at work that had a way more usable (faster) UI so, that's probably been resolved by now.
hmm there's this dell at the same price as the LG
3 year warranty
another thing to consider
LGs almost always use external power bricks
I find this very annoying
there's also a tradeoff between dell's ports-on-the-bottom and LG's ports-on-the-back
nothing really important or exciting, but worth considering if that matters to you XD
this Dell is quite tempting actually
I do like Dell monitors
have an ancient 23" dell ips that's still working
hehe. in my house there are 5 dell monitors and 2 LG monitors
that's interesting, I've just realised this Dell is actually the one @dull garnet has
oooo
wonder why
😭 this struggle is real, my monitor uses one and i bet it's because it's an lg panel
but it's still lovely 🙏
my LG monitor occasionally just doesn't wake and I have to unplug it for it to power the panel back on properly

wtf lol
yeah, it's wild because it doesn't tell windows that it's not responding
you updated the firmware?
so you can move the mouse into the dead monitor area and windows considers it as "active"
nah, it's a cheap $180 display I bought like 6 years ago when my last LG died
rip
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I just use it to have afterburner diagnostics up
it doesn't need to be fancy or have 9000 hz refresh rate
turns on, displays diagnostics, perfect
I still wonder why the LG just refuses to turn on out of wake sometimes though
such a weird issue
idk, i've had issues like that before but mine was all fixed with a firmware update
this new firmware version is nice 🙏
I don't think this monitor even supports that, it's old and pretty no-frills
could always check, i know there's communities out there that if it's a common problem write their own firmware
it's probably not terrible, idk if it's the same panel of the ones eve is using but the lg panel i have is okay
nope, never /s
lol nice
I'll build it by September

it's effort, because it's a knock on effect
repurpose existing hardware etc
move shit around
set things up for the kids, blah blah
tidy a desk
lol
https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/android-lock-screen-ads-glance-coming-us-report/ another reason ios is superior @deep sapphire lets go iphone bros 
KEK
tldr: ive had so much bad luck with them and shit I dont rec them to any of my clients or use them anymore
FF14 is CPU-bound not GPU heavy, so you want a CPU with high single core boost speeds and AMD works best with 3600mhz ram AFAIK
New Intel and AMD CPUs are coming out this fall that are supposed to turbo up to 5.5-5.8ghz so maybe wait a little bit?
new CPU generation should also come with a new AM socket, right?
we're finally going to AM5?
yes and no
they haven't said fully what they plan to do with am4, they just said "we still have plans for am4" or some shit
yeah, with the 5800XDDDD or whatever
nah, there is a rumor of more x3d products
so maybe 5600x3d or 5900x3d 
zen 4 will be going to a new socket
you don't want another hamstrung CPU release on a socket that came out 7 years ago
the absolute only cpu i would ever want to see on am4 from the new gen is 5600g but with rdna igpu
Although not sure about the GPU. With crypto eating shit atm it's hard to say whether it will be cheaper to get a 30 series card that is dropping in price now or wait for the 40 series
but that likely won't happen lol
we will likely see 40 series slot in around the same prices as this gen was supposed to be
yeah, and 40 series will be the card we expected to get with the 30 series
at the low low cost of a huge electricity bill
Was 30 series disappointing? I thought it basically just made up for 20 series being disappointing bc it had like "2 gens of power gain" to it
i mean it was for sure disappointing, they failed by having one architecture of gpus basically
40 series will be gaming and server architecture
I just want to get a clean 2x my 10 series GPU
Lol the timing, I ordered the LG a few minutes prior
hey now, it's hit or miss just like samsung 🙏 each person has their own experiences 😭
the problem with that is a clean 2x your gpu is going to 100% take a lot more power 😔
If it sucks I'll go full karen
remind me to block you if they suck 🙏
this will probably expensive at release my 2k'ish budget wont be enough
You won't block me
you're already going super overkill for ffxiv and gw2
I mean, I took a power penalty going from 2x780 to titan xp
a 3080 for ffxiv and gw2 is a waste
I expect power consumption to go up, but I get 2x perf so it's worth it
i mean going up sure, but basically doubling nah 
it'd pin it higher than that 😭
based
what resolution do you game at?
I'm only getting 1440/90 out of my titan
yeah but that titan is how old now?
uh... 6 years?
FFXIV 7.0 and GW2 trying to update their graphics just want my rig to be able to play smoothly.
the graphics update won't be that much
they're still keeping the damn ps4 around smfh
currently my monitor support 144hz but only 1080p.
might get a higher resu with 144hz or more after a year.
i'd only go 3070/3070ti for 1080p/1440p
4k/144 
although I don't know if I want 4k while windows hidpi still sucks shit'
i need a good multimedia monitor
my 4k 144hz monitor works just fine :p
opening mirc on my surface has these teeny little buttons everywhere because windows doesn't scale it correctly
mirc?
ah so we are tied to console.
also if the 5800x3d and 5800x are the same/close in price go for the x3d
always have been lmfao
we've been tied to the console pretty much since the game was (re)created
hmm since i doubt any new mmo can be as good of ffxiv and gw2 cough ashes of creation.. 3070 hmm.
you figure if they plan on keeping the ps4 around, you could get by gpu wise with even a 3050/3060 since a ps4 basically is an rx 480 or some shit
the highest i would go if you plan on playing ffxiv/gw2 is 3070/3070ti and that's 100% because it will still be overkill for the graphics updates
only 8gb of 3070 ti is available 1080p or higher needs more vram correct?
for those games no
even at 1440p you'd be fine for most things
4k is where it would be questionable but depending on the game you could get by
im happy to get a stable 60 fps in populated areas in 4k xd.
lol, at 4k especially if you go max, you'll be lucky to get 60 fps at times for populated areas
what's wrong with it?
wtf
I bought a board tray and backplane support, oh, uh, at least four years ago
shortly before caselabs went under
jesus smh
I didn't have a real work area to do the cuts with
was always a "you're going to need a house to finish this" project
how much is the 5800x3d in your area vs the 5800x?
their lower the psu watts to 750 and swap the ram to 3600 couldn't find a cl16 in other brands mostly cl18.
that's fine, CL won't matter too much for most users
CL doesn't really matter under anything short of benchmark conditions lmao
yeah lol
like the dorks who benchmark their nvme drives
my CL 19 ram i got for 200 bucks is still chugging
"this one is faster by 250MB/s"
and my ram has lifetime warranty 
great, you literally never use your SSD like a benchmark will
340 - 5800x
465 - 5800x3d
the average user's use case is like, "load a game for 30 seconds, idle for 23 hours"
ah, nvm then
gotta afk in limsa 
I mean, SSDs don't really get any use lmao
it's one of those things that people made a big deal about having m.2 PCI-e 4x raid 0
just to use it like 0.00002% of the time
Don't tell ed I bought a 980 pro then

I didn't buy 2 though
I mean, they all come in m.2 now
my point is that people freak out over how fast it is when those speeds are only realized with sustained IO like you'd find in a data farm
the performance delta between a SATA SSD and nvme SSD is pretty small
should be good 🙏
looks good but a m-atx board is gonna look small in that case, also whats the cpu cooler 
probably reusing their old one 

Ah you said previous build so i assumed desktop
ryzen 7s don't come with a cooler in the box anymore, right?
I don’t believe so
yea I have bad news, the 5800x in particular runs quite hot.
or at least, afaik it only uses the cores on one chiplet, so the heat is concentrated in one spot, and that makes it harder to cool
maybe I'm parroting bad advice but the thing I heard was to either do a 5700x or a 5900x
5600x 
im new to this cpu cooler because i never buy one before and just use the stock of intel when i was using my desktop 10 years ago.
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there is a mighty big catch here
Among the latter is one of Stellantis' top designers, who has declared a plan to eliminate all screens from cars he designs in the future.
THIS SOUNDS LIKE WHEN CAR DESIGNERS DELETE MIRRORS FROM THEIR DESIGNS
and then the actual mirrors are uninspired shit
so it probably means excellent dashboard with an ugly af tablet sticking out
I do not enjoy those dips in GPU utilization while I'm playing overwatch 2
because they correspond to a complete client lockup
that sucks 😦
to be fair, I'm using a driver from last year so maybe it's just a driver issue
current nvidia ones suck so not a big loss
sometimes a game comes out that actually requires updated drivers 😔
Just saw the GN video about the Thermal Grizzly cpu mount. I wonder if something like that will be necessary for the Raptor CPUs or if they will have addressed it
It’ll 100% be necessary if using a current motherboard
And they mention LGA1700/1800 ... the 13th gen are supposed to have more pins but fit in the same dimensions I take it?
And let’s be honest, not everyone is getting a new motherboard
Maybe, but how many ppl replace a year old CPU usually?
People who went budget for this reason 
people who wanted to use windows 11 
Pfft nah
Windows 11 just needs tpm 2.0
That’s easy to get without going that recent
reminder you can still buy microsoft branded products that can't install windows 11
You can technically semi-officially run Win11 on ones as old as 3rd gen bc some of those boards have TPM 2.0 headers on them
the notable failure is the surface book 2
which hasn't been refreshed yet, costs $2500, and can't run windows 11 
because of stupid ass TPM compliance
And you can unofficially run Win11 on whatever you want almost, because if you do a small registry tweak and copy one DLL from a Win10 install into the Win11 folder you can install Win11 even without TPM at all etc.
and microsoft wants to go even further with pluton, which literally nothing supports
even motor trend knows that american auto companies suck at designing cars
spend $15 designing a car, it's a sales flop
see cars don't make money
I'm still convinced american auto companies intentionally neglected their car platforms to pump SUV sales. Then use that to justify cancelling the cars bc the SUVs have higher margins
Bc Japan and Korea has no problems still marketing cars (even though they do offer quite a few SUVs these days as well)
I'm 200% certain that's the case
GM hasn't designed their own small car in, uh, 50 years?
it's either holden or daewoo
and since daewoo was a shit brand like hyundai in the early 90s, you can guess why GM cars are garbage
The Camaro ZL1 says otherwise
Probably the most badass looking car in the modern era
I like the challenger more 😮💨
yay my wifes pc is fucked, I get to do a fresh install
I hate technology
it sucks
I should return everything
just buy a new phone
play mobile gachas
What did she do
pretty
this kinda thing makes me not want to own a jeep :S
https://jalopnik.com/jeep-driver-gets-misdemeanor-after-trying-to-hit-a-cycl-1849147215
every other fuckwad that does that shit seems to have a jeep now
wish I knew, but it's a mess so it's better this way, start over
Although that seems far more likely to be hate-crime related than bc he didn't like him biking.
Although it is Texas so it could be both
would se ever add DLSS to the game?
does that even work with mmos?
Or FSR whatever
buy an rog phone 😎
probably not
FSR would work better more than likely but even then not worth it
the game takes nothing to run anyways
not that much
they plan on having ps4 still
the game won't be much better anyways
ps4 is dirt compared to a lot of pcs these days
yea but it's like the 3rd time some jackass in a jeep did something like this 😦
what makes someone go "I will murder you" at a cyclist
making the decision to take someone's life because they're on a bike
imo someone who decides that is not fit to have a driver's licence
yea for sure
i like
I think that's ugly af
Alright in need of a bit of advice for Steam Deck microSD cards. 512GB fine for the 512GB model or can I push it to 1TB
I can go for 1TB but I don't really wanna install that many games on it
because bicycles are always where they shouldn't be and don't give a fuck about following the rules of the road
catch them on the sidewalk going 30mph on those fucking e-bikes and cursing at pedestrians
catch them in main car-only roadways running stop signs and red lights
and cutting through traffic
fuck bicyclists

lucozade
give me that face all you want, I've almost been run over by gig delivery drivers on e-bikes and scooters doing car speeds on the sidewalk
then they give you the finger because you're on the sidewalk
RTX 40 MSRP Price predictions. Miners & gamers voted with their wallets.
RTX 4090 - $2,999
RTX 4080 Ti - $1,999 (late release)
RTX 4080 - $1,199
RTX 4070 - $799
RTX 4060 Ti - $499
RTX 4060 - $399
RTX 4050 Ti - $329
RTX 4050 - $279
I hate this.
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fuck you, go in the bike lane, that's why we had to waste half the street on it
idk if this still holds up
those aren't bicycles
boring ass foot powered bikes aren't any slower
messengers on bikes used to be doing 15-20mph if they were in good shape
sounds like you need a bike
and they also rode wherever the fuck they wanted
sidewalks aren't bike lanes
and if you're in the road you can't just run red lights because "eh, I'm on a bike, those rules are for cars"
I considered getting an ebike lmao
i highly doubt it'll be that much of a jump
30mph top speed plus you can get exercise and a 62 mile electric range
could go to gril's apartment and fold that shit up to recharge
but it's $3500 
I believe it, between dipshits paying gouged prices ez 👏 and the fact that the 40 series will be more complicated on a different node
give me that 4090 ti though, 2x titan xp performance 
nah, i wouldn't because if that's the case people will just buy 30 series stock since nvidia has too damn much of it anyways lmao
oh, you mean like what happened with the 10 series?
yeah
the 20 series arrived at some stupid fucking price regime and everyone was like "fuck that, we'll just buy 10 series cards"
yup
but nvidia still raised prices to the 20 series level anyway
so ultimately the consumers will complain but their vote doesn't matter

i mean 20 series was stupid anyways lol
it brought basically nothing for actual gains
not to mention 20 series was what started these prices
because a third of the die is tied up in non-gaming functions to enable all the compute functionality nvidia intentionally removed from their geforce series to drive prosumer users towards the tesla product
if only nvidia had used a unified compute architecture like fermi
member when FP64 GPGPU calculations were 1/3 in fermi, and 1/64 in turing?
pepperidge farm remembers
lmao
i have hope 40 series will actually be better than the gains they've been bringing recently but if those are the prices, it's a moot point since 20 series didn't do too well and this would be another 20 series basically
if it brings 1:1 RTX on/off at 4k it'll be worth it
it won't
with a boost clock of 2.5GHz it better lmao
i mean yeah it better but it 100% won't lmao
You don’t want FP64 it does fuck all for gaming and takes up more die
A good gaming GPU is designed to do 1 thing, push pixels as fast as possible
Anyone have experience running XIV on Steam Deck? I can get past launcher, but after selecting data center I get stuck on black screen with loading circle
FP32 is better around that
that's all the tensor cores do lmao
it's just re-adding the compute functions nvidia removed
might want to ask in #952326072542847016 there might even be some threads in there already
RTX is all computational, it's not pixel pushing
they do have a point on this one hank sadly 😔
is there a way to search thread titles or something?
RTX uses a different chip on the card
all the whiz-bang "machine learning" and "AI" stuff nvidia is hyping is just compute power from the tensor cores
The main die is primarily rasterization
then type after that what you are looking for, this case being steamdeck
that got it thanks
I know, but it's tying up die space with nothing but compute functionality
imagine if the whole die was capable of compute or pixel pushing
FP64 is why AMD never had any decent gaming GPUs until they introduced Navi
you leave vega alone 😭
But they did great in heavy computation
vega was great considering that people no longer give a shit about powerdraw anymore /s
AMD's GPGPU approach is why they can still use raytracing even though it's not optimized for their uarch
nvidia would just be like "ugh, compute" and eat shit
but nvidia is doing the same shit now basically
pushing the power for more performance
instead of creating a good architecture 

vega had more than gcn and you fucking know it lmao
i mean it still was a lot better 
Vega had high bandwidth computational power which translated to no gaming benefit
amd really had nothing except vega for high performance because gcn is so shit
Computation has no relevance to rasterization performance
and that's why gcn failed as well 
and yeah it doesn't but it'll be needed to work with rasterization since raytracing is compute heavy
Ray tracing in its current incarnation wasnt a thing during that time
And even then that’s a niche feature few care about
true, it's still too taxing to really care
A CPU is designed to compute, a GPU should be designed to push a lot of pixels
That design works and should continue the trend
Nobody gives a fuck about GPGPU except niche industries and schools
https://videocardz.com/newz/forspoken-the-first-pc-game-to-use-microsoft-directstorage-has-been-delayed-to-january-2023 😔 we will never see directstorage at this rate 😭
nah this is what they said
it will be a relevant thing in the future though
raytracing makes a lot of back-end game development a lot easier
because you can just set physical rules and let the engine do the lightmaps in real time
instead of having to bake them all as part of the map
I would be very surprised to see games using non-RT lighting schemes in the future, it's just easier
@deep sapphire
I bought a milwaukee drill and my junior engineer was like "nice, spending money on the good stuff" when I gave it to him
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I have a dewalt at home
dewalt routers have an OK reputation, they're cheaper than festool so I make do
My hot take is that festool is pretty much only good for their cutting implements and specialty joiner tools
is that a hot take?
I don't know from tools, I just buy whatever I can afford
I'm not a brand apologist
LMAO
If only hank was the same :p

is dewalt good? who knows
it's cheap and I have a few batteries so that's what I use now
I mean, jokes aside unless you a real hard ass power tool user it's fine. Just use whatever ecosystem you have.
Lol i was more talking pc stuff
but also applies to that
I do however like Milwaukee, they are expensive but I know at the end of the day they'll get the job done and not crap out on me
even if you are a hard power tool user you'll end up breaking shittier ones anyway
Y'all fuck around with PCs I just buy whatever is good price to performance : P
Which in the last two years or so has been amd.
I just build one top of the line machine every decade or so
Same 🙏 even gpu wise
For personal builds, yeah that's about what I do : P
Hope intel can actually compete 😭
the performance depreciation begins as soon as you click "buy" so you may as well get the most life you can out of the parts
I have so many pumps and reservoirs for my new build lmao
I mean I complain a lot but uhm, I don't think I need to replace my computer anytime soon
You need to actually maintain it 😭
Did you ever do the fans?






