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hard drift
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Use it with your current build AA_Rochi_Evil

fair parcel
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did you buy the other stuff or just the GPU so far

modest moss
hard drift
modest moss
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Yeah just gpu, got one at msrp

fair parcel
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nice what did you scoop

hard drift
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Plus gotta test if it works :p

potent arrow
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IM JOOOOHN MADDDDEEEEN

modest moss
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3070ti fe

fair parcel
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very nice

modest moss
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And I'd rather not put it in a box with an ancient psu bidori, don't even know if I have 2x pcie cables for it

hard drift
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Fine 😔

potent arrow
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Cant get over how sexy the case looks

modest moss
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hurrah for impulse buying random ssd

hard drift
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What’d you get?

modest moss
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1TB WD Blue SN570

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it was on offer

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I will use it as main drive if there's no good offer on a better one

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but it was like £67, seemed a decent price to just have as secondary nvme

hard drift
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Wd has been under fire for changing things like the memory controller or something like that

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But from my experience nothing bad

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Gave one to my brother as a bday gift and it seems to do fine

modest moss
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I figured if I can get a good price on 980 pro I'd get one, if not this'd be fine and cheap enough that if it ends up additional game storage it's all good

hard drift
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I wouldn’t say it’s necessarily worth it if for increased price, the wd one should be fine

modest moss
hard drift
modest moss
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interestingly they're still in stock in nvidia store

fair parcel
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Pretty

hard drift
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Stock is overwhelming for nvidia because nobody is really buying now

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That’s why they cut next gen production

modest moss
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I should just not look at stock or prices for gpus now lol

hard drift
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Lol

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I mean i still do

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For over a year now

dull garnet
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flooded used market, new cards on the horizon

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plenty of reasons they'd still be in stock :p

modest moss
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shut up speedy

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build my pc

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tell me what to buy

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log out

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AAAHHHHHHH

dull garnet
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still think the 3060 ti is the best value card

odd sand
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Truck didn't even look more than 1-3 years old so I wonder what happened heh

hard drift
modest moss
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I still can't decide on a cpu

dull garnet
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i just don't think the 3070 is all that 🤷‍♂️

dull garnet
modest moss
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should I spend more and get i7

hard drift
modest moss
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these nerds told me 5800x sucks

hard drift
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It’s bad value when 5800x3d exists plus it’s hotter than 5900x usually

modest moss
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£261 vs £430

hard drift
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Yeah that’s the only problem

modest moss
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5900x is £382

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huge differences

hard drift
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Cpu market still fucked for you 😭

modest moss
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12700 is 340

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idk if i7 is worth it for me

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12700f is 317

real edge
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well, am5 and raptor lake is going to release soon

hard drift
real edge
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unless you already have am4 then getting a new am4 is not worth it this late into its lifespan

modest moss
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but 12400 is only £190, that might be best bet anyway

hard drift
hard drift
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Just make sure it’s the k model for the efficiency cores for extra longevity even if you get a non Z chipset

modest moss
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can I be bothered to overclock, probably not straight away, but maybe later so the z690/12600k could be valid

hard drift
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Even if not overclocking the K has a purpose now atleast

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Even on other chipsets

modest moss
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I am drawn to the fact the 12600k is the current equivalent of the 2500k which is still running fine for me on my spare box

real edge
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the only caviat is that 12xxx needs windows 11

odd sand
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Was thinking about doing a custom loop like Ice did, but goddamn is that a lot of money:

modest moss
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it does?

hard drift
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It was proven to make little to no difference

real edge
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I've heard that it does need it tho, wtf is all of my knowledge lol

dull garnet
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buy a cheap motherboard

modest moss
dull garnet
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don't oc

odd sand
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Granted, I already have 3 front case fans, so I don't think I need those in this recommendation, and I might also have an iCue Commander module as well

hard drift
real edge
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I was under the impression that 12xxx was windows 11 only because of the way their cores work

hard drift
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There’s tons of videos on it

odd sand
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I never really messed around with the RGB so I dont remember which module I have

modest moss
dull garnet
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i'd probs go 12600k for ~balance~

modest moss
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then the extra 80 quid for a z690 would be logical

odd sand
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So if I dropped those out of the invoice it would be more like $450. I wanted to get it ahead of 13900 this fall bc I predict stock of stuff will become scarce so better to plan ahead

modest moss
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nerdori said I need z chipset for ecores

dull garnet
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ohh, well okay then

hard drift
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I didn’t say that

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I said K processor for e cores

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Z chipset is only for overclocking

modest moss
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oh hmm

odd sand
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I currently have a 10 year old H100i on my 9900K, so I'd rather leave that with the CPU since its only 240mm and get a new one with the 360mm rad bc I assume the 13900K will need better cooling than that

hard drift
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And z gives extra pcie lanes but that’s moot when you’re not needing all of them

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If you want lanes and no overclocking there’s h70 chipset or whatever it is

odd sand
hard drift
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A lot of places are barely getting one lol

modest moss
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if I'm not overclocking, is hyper 212 enough for 12600k on a b660m?

dull garnet
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yea

hard drift
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I’d go for a bit heavier on cooling

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But yeah

real edge
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intel stuff runs hot

dull garnet
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cringe!

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how the turntables

real edge
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hyper 212 may be ok to run at base clocks or a tad higher but you will not get much more out of it

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I think

modest moss
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interesting, the cheapest asus b660m is only 40-50 cheaper than an asus z690

dull garnet
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probably need new mounting hw

hard drift
odd sand
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Yeah prices on 12th gen are pretty bork bc of covid shortages and tariffs

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I'm hoping board prices are a bit more reasonable for 13th

real edge
hard drift
odd sand
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MSI Pro-A w/e 11th gen are $125, the same board for 12th gen was like $215 disgustedaura

real edge
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there, video on cheap cpu coolers

modest moss
odd sand
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I have a new in box Hyper 212 if you want to buy it off me. Didn't fit my server so its been collecting dust bc I waited too long to return it haha

hard drift
modest moss
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it'd cost more to ship to UK than the £28 for new haha

hard drift
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Lmao

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Sad but true

dull garnet
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CL18

modest moss
modest moss
hard drift
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Most people it won’t make a meaningful difference

dull garnet
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you should be able to get 3600 CL16 "on a budget"

real edge
odd sand
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I'd actually prefer 10gbe bc I'm going to get a new switch in planning for an eventual NAS in the next year mewpaissa

modest moss
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bidori told me the dark rock pro 4 is as good as the noctua dh15

dull garnet
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I have had my eye on a AK620, but really my 5600X kicks out so little heat it is a bit moot

hard drift
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it is, they're just talking price

real edge
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yeah but those are old at this point and cost too much

dull garnet
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i member when D15 cost £70

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😳

hard drift
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so it's a meaningless difference pretty much between the 3

real edge
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the fuma 2 is like 50 euro here

hard drift
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65 pound

dull garnet
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i looked, looks like my info is outdated

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😔

hard drift
dull garnet
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maybe that is why

hard drift
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that's why cl 18 is worth it vs 16

real edge
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55 pounds

dull garnet
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i doubt shue will use 32gb t b h but i understand the want for it

hard drift
modest moss
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I am being pressured into learning ue5

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so ram would be cool

hard drift
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because lets be honest, 8gb is going to get outdated pretty quick

modest moss
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and I figured 3600 was more important that CL

hard drift
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the consoles have more than that by a bit and given consoles usually drive next gen specs for games goodbye 30 series because of vram ASevil

hard drift
dull garnet
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3600 CL18 is basically just 3200 CL16

hard drift
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CL does make a difference but not enough to justify say a 50 pound increase or something

hard drift
dull garnet
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guess that's true

real edge
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I held off on buying a 5800x or the x3d(due to price) so I am curious as to what new toys amd can come up with on this aging platform

modest moss
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there's 3600/16 for 12 quid more

hard drift
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then yeah, get that

modest moss
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or corsair is 142

hard drift
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i'd go for kingston just to save more

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not like there is going to be much difference anyways

modest moss
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I like corsair, usually reliable for me

hard drift
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i mean that's up to you, it is your money after all lol

modest moss
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I should watch a review of that case

hard drift
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i went cheap on my ram and it works fine for me ASevil

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h510 flow is good, h510 regular is shit

dull garnet
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kingston r gud tbh

hard drift
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that's the moral of the review

real edge
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1k pounds seems so expensive without a gpu, prices have gone to shit lol

modest moss
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I meant more like, fit in fat fingers

hard drift
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oh wait nvm

dull garnet
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nope

modest moss
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no this'll be near £1600

modest moss
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idk maybe I can skip the 980 pro like bidori says

dull garnet
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do you earn samsung ssd money

hard drift
real edge
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you can save a few pounds here and there on that build without losing any worthwhile performance

modest moss
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Ice send me your dh15 for free

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you know it's just in a drawer

hard drift
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get another wd blue and save 50 pounds

modest moss
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but the 980 pro is 2x the speed and pcie4

real edge
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do you need the speed

hard drift
modest moss
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I've never had an MSI board and that scares me

real edge
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"do I really need this" is the question here for some of those choices

dull garnet
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love my msi board

hard drift
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ssds are so quick these days that they don't really make a difference for consumers

modest moss
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I mean I probably don't need 2x nvme

hard drift
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people who get samsung ssds have money to blow deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerp

dull garnet
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you don't need one nvme unless you have a specific application in mind for it, loading times vs sata are negligible rn

real edge
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if you care about saving some money anyway

modest moss
hard drift
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wouldn't even buy them on sale

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i'd buy another drive on sale smh

dull garnet
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my 850 Pro has been solid tbh

hard drift
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i got some seagate nvmes on sale and called it a day

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since my intel nvme fried itself lol

dull garnet
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i have an adata nvme...

hard drift
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word of advice do not go intel nvme 🙏

dull garnet
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my cpu would reject it

hard drift
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lmfao

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my pc rejected it by frying it ASevil

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although it lasted like 4 years

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but that's not really long considering nvme 😭

modest moss
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@tame fulcrum Warning: The MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard supports the Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor with BIOS version 7D25v11. If the motherboard is using an older BIOS version, upgrading the BIOS will be necessary to support the CPU.

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you suck

hard drift
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lmfao

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that's right you tell him ASevil

deep sapphire
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Do I buy them

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I really should I fuckin hate rigid pipe wrenches

dull garnet
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an MSI should

modest moss
dull garnet
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you don't need a CPU installed for that on my board

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op

modest moss
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can I save on this PSU

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do I need an 850w rmx

dull garnet
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probably

modest moss
dull garnet
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your cpu boosting will bring it to 850

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;D

modest moss
dull garnet
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use your current case

modest moss
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under 900, see if I can find reductions

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nah

odd sand
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I hope ill be fine with 850 with the 3080 and 13900

dull garnet
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and I was thinking i'm cutting it fairly close with a 3060 ti + 5600x on a 650w

modest moss
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do coolers ship with paste these days?

dull garnet
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yes

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my cryorig came with a whole tube

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4g tube too

modest moss
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oh I'm gonna get the noctua

deep sapphire
modest moss
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the amazon listing confirms it has the right bracket and paste

hard drift
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🙏 yeah even if they didn't they ship it for free usually

dull garnet
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i'd sooner go noctua than buy a bequiet for the same money

hard drift
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i mean bequiet is quite literally quieter 😭

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yeah because that's half price vs msrp lol

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you literally got 2 for the price of one for that

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actually way less

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i was thinking 1 tb price

modest moss
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I already have a bunch of case fans

dull garnet
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aka d15 poverty

modest moss
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Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler idk this

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name a better case then

dull garnet
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make sure you're dropping £300 on case fans too

hard drift
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that's literally all noctuas now

modest moss
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Corsair 4000D Airflow?

hard drift
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another good case 🙏

dull garnet
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fractal design meshify c

hard drift
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GunMorning out of here with that mini bullshit

modest moss
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you mean this?

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idgaf about colour hah

dull garnet
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imagine buying black noctua, that's like buying a yellow ferrari

hard drift
modest moss
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it's not even listed

hard drift
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wasn't meant to reply to that lol, was supposed to be for the chromax earlier

modest moss
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the full size dh15 is black and cheaper

hard drift
modest moss
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yeah I meant the d15 black is cheaper than brown

hard drift
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oh damn

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that's nice lmao

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it's 10 dollars more here 😭

modest moss
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d15s are both same price, both cheaper than d15

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is d15s as good though?

dull garnet
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2 fans > 1 fan

modest moss
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can I OC the 12600k on it later?

dull garnet
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people will laugh at the s

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you won't be able to sleep at night knowing you bought an s

hard drift
modest moss
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SPEEDY IS LAUGHING AT IT

hard drift
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well no shit, the 12900k does more than 230w at times

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the cooler is only rated for like 210-230

modest moss
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what's a better case that'll fit the dh15 properly?

dull garnet
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antec 1200

modest moss
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Ice telling me to spend 2x as much on a case when he knows how poor I am

dull garnet
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have you tried having more money

modest moss
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is this too tall

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this is exhausting

dull garnet
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lpx is generally good for clearance

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boring as it looks

hard drift
hard drift
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no, that's because you're going after hobbyist shit

modest moss
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noctua say it fits

hard drift
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most people don't custom loop smh

modest moss
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I trust noctua

hard drift
hard drift
odd sand
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@tame fulcrum Do you know, do you need the static pressure fans for the corsair watercooling? I looked up the configurator and its trying to sell me on fans, but the Corsair 570X already comes with decent front fans, so I would think I don't need those then

dull garnet
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i turned the rgb off on my viper 8k the other day

modest moss
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how do I make sure that corsair ram fits though

dull garnet
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looks like $3 chinese mouse now

modest moss
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nerds on tomshardware say they fit under a dh15

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subject to bargains

dull garnet
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I have Arctic F series for case and a P series on my CPU cooler

modest moss
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speedy will probably talk shit about it

serene radish
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Anyone here have opinions on VPN? I was using CyberGhost and they have a deal now that looks but I was thinking maybe I should try other/better ones, don't have much experience. I'm not a heavy user though, just use it sometimes when I'm abroad for TV channels in my home country and stuff like that.
Anyone have a reccommendation/dis-?

modest moss
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I have a 6 pack of arctic 120mm I can bang in the case

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I do respect his opinion tbh

odd sand
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Actually I dont think they're even the static pressure fans bc they say LL which is the light ring and the static ones I think prefix with SP

dull garnet
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look at you with your bougie £180 motherboard

modest moss
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you have your moments Ice

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send me 12900k

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I can drop it on this board when you upgrade

dull garnet
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least the design is fairly understated, those asus prime boards are pretty good in that regard

modest moss
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yeah I can use this for 6 months until you can't resist a 13900k when Shinon goes HOLY SHIT I LOVE MY NEW CPU

modest moss
serene radish
odd sand
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I'm not 100% discounting the 7000 series, but I'd like to keep my current ram and its B-die 3200 and I know ryzen wants at least 3600

modest moss
dull garnet
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eh, 3200 is fine for ryzen

odd sand
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So when they both come out ill look at benchmarks and decide then

hard drift
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but 3200 was about average best

dull garnet
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i hope to get at least 5 years out of my machine. considering ff14 is the most intensive game i've played in a year i think that should be achievable

odd sand
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It should be fine as long as you don't do a ton of multitasking

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Although you will probably want to do one GPU upgrade at some point

dull garnet
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nah this gpu rips

odd sand
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Well, I say that but if you dont play AAA then it could be fine. Especially if you stick to 1080p or 1440p

dull garnet
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monitor is 1440 165hz

odd sand
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1440p is a 40% pixel uplift from 1080p so that can really tank fps

hard drift
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10 years won't last for that gpu at 4k

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it'll fry itself more than likely lmao

dull garnet
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also it can barely do 4k now

hard drift
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i'm sorry for your loss 🙏

odd sand
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I've got 9900k (8c16t) 3200 cas14 b-die @ 3600, and 3080 10gb so I don't really need an upgrade but I make enough so I'm fine with buying a new CPU and mobo atm and flip my current to a friend for a couple hundred

hard drift
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i hate you AA_ShyBowLeave

odd sand
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Yeah 4K is really nice for productivity but I wouldn't care to have it for gaming bc the FPS drop isnt worth it

dull garnet
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i should go 4k

hard drift
odd sand
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Then I figure when 15th gen comes out I'll flip it again and go DDR5 then

dull garnet
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i spend 99% of my time on discord/youtube so

hard drift
dull garnet
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dual 4K

modest moss
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speedy gonna be a peasant with a worse rig than me

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oof

hard drift
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can miniled/microled become cheaper 😭

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the monitor i want atm is 2k smh

odd sand
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DDR5 will be mature and prices down and that will be the 2nd gen of their chiplet architecture so theoretically they will have the kinks ironed out then

dull garnet
hard drift
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smh

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shame

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it's too far out to say if it'll be 2nd gen chiplet from intel

odd sand
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14th gen is going to be Intel's first gen using the AMD-style chiplet design

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The hardware roadmaps for 14th and 15th basics were already leaked

hard drift
hard drift
hard drift
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yeah but it's still early enough it might have changed

odd sand
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Something scheduled to ship in a year is not that early when it comes to processors. 15th gen being too early? Sure. They don't even have engineering samples yet for those

hard drift
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i expect delays ASevil

dull garnet
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delay deez nuts

odd sand
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One downside to 7000 series is its DDR5 only

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Which being AMD also means namazuconcern bc they tend to be touchy when it deals with handling new ram

hard drift
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I mean we don’t know yet since we haven’t seen the new socket and everything in action

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Not to mention we don’t know how 13th gen will be limited on older motherboards

modest moss
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the AOC mentions gsync and is cheaper

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is AOC good/bad?

dull garnet
modest moss
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is that really £100 better than the AOC?

hard drift
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Gsync is a full blown module in a monitor so being compatible means basically nothing except variable refresh rate

hard drift
modest moss
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so ignore the gsync nonsense, they look very similar specs but price spread a lot

hard drift
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Unless it just says gsync yeah, pretty much ignore it

modest moss
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is freesync premium pro applicable to nvidia gpus though?

hard drift
dull garnet
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but it is my monitor :)

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there are some good deals occasionally via dell but eh

modest moss
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I bought a dell 23" ips many years ago, that sucker was incredible

dull garnet
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yeah i've only had dell since 2010

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although I don't think the panel quality is as good as my older ultrasharp

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simply because I have a spot of blacklight bleed and a spot of ips glow...

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i was too lazy to swap it

modest moss
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I'd prefer to spend less, will see what deals come up

dull garnet
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600 gbp gpu, 200 gbp monitor

modest moss
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2 quid cheaper direct from dell lol

dull garnet
modest moss
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would prefer to stay under 300

hard drift
dull garnet
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sometimes I think I shouldn't have upgraded from my Dell U2417H

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the picture quality was so good

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wonder what a 4K ultrasharp costs

hard drift
modest moss
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curved

dull garnet
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i wouldn't touch samsung with a bargepole

modest moss
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fuck that

hard drift
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They’re generally shit

dull garnet
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and TVs

hard drift
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Tvs are safer than monitors atleast

modest moss
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I don't want curved anyway

dull garnet
dull garnet
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oh that isn't an ultrasharp is it, damn you search filters

hard drift
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Ultrasharp is not that cheap

dull garnet
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yeah

modest moss
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are asus monitors good?

dull garnet
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some are

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proart

hard drift
dull garnet
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16:10

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i used to want a U3011 so bad

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2560x1600

hard drift
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Alao wtf is that response time… 8ms lowest being 5ms

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That ghosting will likely be terrible 😭

dull garnet
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my U2410 was pretty laggy lol

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for muh mmo pvp anyway

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U2412M was good

sharp star
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this is perfect for a cringe anime build

dull garnet
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now do a Korone one

deep sapphire
dull garnet
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of course you did

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you chad

deep sapphire
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First day I brought it home I was like holy shit

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I had a 22” 1680x1050 monitor before

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Thing was just massive

dull garnet
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i had a 22" 1680x1050 too, which felt like a scam because a year later they started making 22" 1080p monitors

deep sapphire
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Haha

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Acer?

dull garnet
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mine was a HP w2207h

deep sapphire
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Ah alright I had some acer monitor

dull garnet
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my friend went for a cheap 24" 1920x1200 acer, cost about the same as my hp

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seething

odd sand
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I actually kinda prefer 16:10 to 16:9 as a monitor but its hard to find them

dull garnet
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i remember when my friend went widescreen, mad jelly

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he only had a 19" 1440x900 display though lol

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coming from a CRT while I had a crappy 1280x1024 LCD

odd sand
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The configurator example here... are they expecting me to blow the hot air into the case thru the rad or are you supposed to blow it out the front?

sharp star
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Lord help me for what I am about to do

odd sand
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Wtf is a Maxsun? And $200 for 16gb of DDR4? That's crazy

sharp star
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Maxsun is a China AIB I think

sharp star
modest moss
odd sand
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Oh I didn't see it was a waifu card

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It would probably be cheaper to just get a decal and an x-acto blade and cut your own to size on an existing card heh

latent grotto
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put it into the hakos bae case

modest moss
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Levant is here to talk shit about my build and make me buy more expensive shit

latent grotto
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i mean

modest moss
odd sand
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The Hakos case looks like the regular Hyte case with a decal on the window

modest moss
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look at it and give a sensible opinion Levant

latent grotto
#

its fine though?

odd sand
#

That's not a bad deal actually considering the case is $200 and you get the deskpad as well

latent grotto
#

you sure you don't wanna go for a 1000W psu though?

odd sand
#

$80 for the deskpad and waifu wrap

modest moss
latent grotto
#

but transient power spikes nyaissa

#

but yea it looks fine

hard drift
latent grotto
#

i'm assuming you already checked cooler clearance?

modest moss
#

noctua says it fits the case, nerds on tomshardware say the ram fits under the cooler

latent grotto
#

iirc i had the same ram and it slightly interfered with the 2nd fan

#

so it had to be put slightly higher

sharp star
#

I can't find any pink motherboards

modest moss
#

unless you really are taking my joke seriously and sending me your i9, it's unlikely I'll need more psu

#

lol

#

I wouldn't ask someone to actually send me parts

latent grotto
#

mm yes anime waifu boot screen

dull garnet
hard drift
sharp star
#

yeah

sly elk
#

do you have stickers on your car?

#

they are very popular here but they're expensive :\

#

like literally every time I leave the house I see a car with anime stickers

dull garnet
#

ahem

#

itasha

sly elk
#

nah this isn't itasha it's just little stickers mostly the 'peeker' kind

dull garnet
#

ohh

#

ohh no

sly elk
#

itasha is crazy expensive

#

^ i see those a lot

#

including somehow hisoka lmao

#

there's someone that lives in an apartment by mcdonalds that has a hisoka sticker i think

boreal surge
#

The hisoka one works imo

dull garnet
potent arrow
#

LMFAO

modest moss
#

is this my GTA garage

#

genius moment

#

buy a new flash drive so installing windows doesn't suck

hard drift
#

why get legit windows when you can get free windows and then remove the watermark by editing registry 😎

#

i mean i have too, but i don't blame people for not buying it AA_Hana_Shrug

royal forge
#

I just get mine dirt cheap from..

#

Places

modest moss
#

I'm not going windows 11

#

and I'll have legit windows, MS will give me an upgrade np

jaunty light
waxen vapor
hard drift
#

50% higher boost clock for only 33%+ more power Pog

odd sand
#

That card will be fire... literally. 🔥

jaunty light
#

3090 Ti(ti)

dull garnet
#

isn't a ti more like 10%

jaunty light
#

tdp is some bullshit but if the 3090 is supposed to be a 350w the 3090 Ti is 450 but we know that's not how it works

#

I'm sure mine draws almost 500 under heavy

royal forge
#

@tame fulcrum ship me a 4080 when it drops

#

Maybe both our curses will negate each other

frank sierra
#

supposedly the igpu on this is a beast and can play cyberpunk at 1080p at 30 fps

umbral moss
#

XIV is very CPU limited

#

if you don't need it to run at, like, 200 hz it's probably fine for xiv honestly

paper tusk
#

in this case it'll probably be gpu limited

#

should be ok for fill in though

umbral moss
#

it's only 1080, I bet he could get away with 1080/60

#

wouldn't want to try to run XIV at 4k on a laptop yet 😔

frank sierra
umbral moss
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

without having one I can't tell you anything about how XIV will play on it

#

other than a general warning that XIV likes as much CPU performance as you can throw at it

#

I'm sure it's fine but it won't be blazin fast

umbral moss
#

This Equinox is held back by its turbo I-4 engine, lazy transmission, and limited cargo room.

#

based chevy engineering

#

imagine terminating all your sedans just to make this piece of shit

hard drift
#

and that doesn't even count aib models concentrate

umbral moss
#

isn't the AIB stuff mostly overengineering the PCB to accept those XXXTREME overclocks

#

although getting 50% faster switching for even 40% power increase is bonkers efficiency improvements

#

like, you can double your power consumption going up 15% on a CPU

#

not even hitting 1:1 power/frequency is crazy

hard drift
#

given that the rumor is 16384 cuda cores while the 3090ti has 10752 cuda cores

umbral moss
#

60% more cores?

hard drift
#

52% roughly

modest moss
#

nerds

#

looking at you ed

#

is this good? ^

hard drift
#

52% core increase with "the same power draw" as a 3090ti but an increase of 30% vs a 3090

hard drift
modest moss
#

heat sand with 'free' solar energy > sand stays hot months > suck off heat in winter

#

sounds great like that

umbral moss
#

I mean, it's just above-ground geothermal

modest moss
#

I guess it's still the old problem of the countries that generate the most solar power don't need as much heating

umbral moss
#

yeah, sun coverage is a thing

#

like I'm 100% certain new mexico doesn't need this sand battery thing lmao

solid dirge
#

I mean if they can figure out how to get solar energy to power AC without all the other crap that comes with AC then there's that

#

Unfortunately, solar power and hot climates in general are kind of a terrible combination due to the batteries' potential for rather violent combustion.

umbral moss
#

hot climates are better off using gravity batteries anyway

hard drift
#

oh yeah, dimberest i expect that the power efficiency is mainly from them going to tsmc (i believe this series is on tsmc)

#

since samsung was one of the reasons the other cards were power hungry

umbral moss
#

wasn't it also because the samsung process was some weird low power node that nvidia repurposed since TSMC told them to eat shit

hard drift
#

tsmc told them to eat shit because nvidia tried to play games with tsmc lol

#

but yeah something like that

umbral moss
#

I thought TSMC basically told everyone to pound sand last year because apple bought literally all the fab time to make M1

hard drift
#

no, if i recall correctly it was because nvidia wanted a better deal or some shit and was doing some mind game to try and get it and tsmc wasn't having it

umbral moss
#

oh

#

that sounds like leatherjacketman, yeah

hard drift
umbral moss
#

didn't AMD have to push their releases back because of the scheduling?

hard drift
#

they only really pushed one back as far as i know and that was the 6900xt

#

they moved it to december vs the rest

#

i could be wrong on that one though, i don't remember

umbral moss
#

poggin, time to short nvidia shares

hard drift
#

they've been saying that for a while i posted it already 😭

devout nexus
#

its true icehunter

#

rumor within the industry is they delaying 4k series by at least a month to compensate i think it will be more

umbral moss
#

probably delay until 2023 just to make sure the market is nice and tight

hard drift
#

lmao

#

what they don't realize is people aren't buying for more than just crypto, they know the next gen is almost here

umbral moss
#

it's also the middle of general market weakness

#

so there's not a lot of capex to begin with

devout nexus
#

our sales on vga down probably 70%

#

since january

umbral moss
#

not surprising, that was the beginning of the end for crypto bros and the removal of jpow liquidity

modest moss
#

just a small request haha

hard drift
#

Lmao

devout nexus
#

😛

tulip mulch
#

Hi! I'm looking for recommendations on Keyboards and Mice to play ffxiv on PS5. my current budget is around 100-200 USD

odd sand
hard drift
hard drift
#

such as size, mechanical, quiet/noisy etc

umbral moss
boreal surge
hard drift
#

lisa su just wears a blazer jacket usually never a leather jacket lol

boreal surge
#

If anything it’s patagonia stuff

tulip mulch
#

maybe something rather medium? not too small not too big?

hard drift
#

are you used to a numpad/do you want one?

tulip mulch
#

Yeah, I'm used to numpads.

#

I guess it would be nice if it had one, altough I'm not sure if numpads work on console?

hard drift
#

i mean i can't see why not although i've never tried

umbral moss
#

oh yeah, I found a hall effect keyboard on kickstarter

#

and epomaker has a 96% on kickstarter too

hard drift
#

now idk if all of it will work on console but i imagine it should

#

damn, 502 hero on sale for 40 dollars

modest moss
#

numpad worked on ps4 when I used it back in SB

potent arrow
deep sapphire
#

If you were to tell me dodge and Chevrolet had higher quality rankings than Toyota I’d call you a moron

#

Yet here we are

#

Maybe GM finally fixed the lifters in the Silverado

deep sapphire
#

@languid lava oh no mazda bros we got too cocky!

hard drift
deep sapphire
languid lava
hard drift
tulip mulch
#

@hard drift Thanks a lot, I'll try to see if any store here sells any of those. 😄

hard drift
#

logitech should ship globally i believe?

#

and maybe glorious

jaunty light
deep sapphire
jaunty light
#

Dodge with fewer issues than ram, but jeep and chrysler and fiat not on the list

#

:OmegaLUL:

odd sand
deep sapphire
#

It was based on initial issues for the first 6 months I think. So it wasn’t based on major issues that crop up but any issues at all like fit and finish and annoying software bugs

#

I’ve been following the new tundra and fuck sakes Toyota has been doing a bad job with it. Seen tons of people complaining about transfer case issues, poor interior fit and finish, hard to use infotainment, waste gate issues and more

#

I know it’s new but Jesus

odd sand
#

Tesla at the bottom of that list? heh

deep sapphire
#

They didn’t even agree to be on the list LMAO

potent arrow
sly elk
#

what would get weird is if you take cars from 2 different brands that use the same platform/engine/etc and find they have drastically different reliability figures

#

like toyota 86 vs subaru br-z

sly elk
#

I've never had an issue with a car in the first 6 months

#

tbh I probably should have complained about the paint job on my jeep's tailgate lol. it was terrible.

#

and somehow very common

#

that white outline XD

modest moss
hard drift
#

Now the 12700k???

modest moss
#

replacing the 12600k with 12700k is a great idea, and wouldn't need to change anything else, right?

hard drift
#

Should be fine for everything

modest moss
#

I'm thinking longevity, that extra £100-110 should make it stretch its life a bit

sly elk
#

mhmm

hard drift
#

Only thing to worry about is the cpu/gpu boosting tripping psu

sly elk
#

how long are you thinking? XD

hard drift
sly elk
#

oh no

#

that 850w should be fine

hard drift
#

6p cores +4 e cores

modest moss
#

I won't spend on upgrades, so like, thinking maybe better to spend a little more now

odd sand
#

850 is recommended for a 3080 even, the 3070ti will be fine

sly elk
#

yeah

modest moss
#

850w RMx should be ok

sly elk
#

totally fine

hard drift
#

I mean yeah but longevity is fine with either since it’s not like you’re playing triple a stuff

sly elk
#

i'd even go as far as saying that's the ideal power supply lol

odd sand
#

That estimated is also based on peak draw from the card, which you won't be doing very often

modest moss
#

I do play other games, but I'm also going to have to fuck with UE5

sly elk
#

I ran my 9700k+3080ti off a 750w psu for a while haha it still worked most of the time.....

#

that said, the finicky issues I was having with crashing at almost-idle seem to have totally disappeared since swapping the PSU out with a 1000w unit

modest moss
#

big difference between 3070ti and 3080ti though

sly elk
#

i think you could easily easily go 5-7 years off a 12700k though

#

right!

modest moss
#

I'm being patient Ice

sly elk
#

shue sorry, what I meant was 850 should be totally fine ^^

modest moss
#

prime day next week, might get a bargain on something

sly elk
#

i have no idea how the 12600k compares

hard drift
#

It’s 60w

#

🙏

#

How much is 3070ti vs 3080ti?

hard drift
#

Unless next gen consoles go up that much pushing games quicker

sly elk
#

XD

#

hell I think I could go 7-10 years off a 12700k if I really felt like it

#

but I like shiny new toys sometimes

odd sand
#

5-7 years should be np since not many games go deep on multicore yet

modest moss
#

hmm 12700k is already on offer on amazon

odd sand
#

The only ones that really get into that are sim games like Satisfactory, Dyson, Timberborn, etc.

modest moss
#

maybe I should just buy it

hard drift
odd sand
#

The average game is only going to address 2-4 cores atm

hard drift
#

If shue stays at 1080p-1440p you can get probably 10 years out of it if they stay alive

odd sand
#

My old 3770k with my friends is having faulty usb now doh

hard drift
#

Rip

odd sand
#

I told them to buy new-old-stock of a board for like $150 and just keep it for the kids

#

And I'm going to offer them my 9900k when I upgrade

hard drift
#

Because that’s a huge change lol

odd sand
#

I'm going to leave my current H100i on it. They just have to buy their own ram bc im keeping my 32gb b-die

hard drift
#

Lol

odd sand
#

I think I put an H60 on the 3770

hard drift
#

Oh yeah it’s ddr3 isn’t it

odd sand
#

Bc the H100i was on the 3770 but I kept the AIO when I upgraded and just bought the H60 for it when I passed it on

jaunty light
odd sand
#

There is something warm and fuzzy about looking at it in resource monitor and seeing the helper threads chugging across all 16 threads mewpaissa

hard drift
odd sand
#

@jaunty light DSP has you covered

jaunty light
#

Pomf hmm? What are we gonna do in the factory onii chan?

hard drift
#

🤨

odd sand
#

head pomf, not that pomf

hard drift
real bone
#

passed by IT support today, not what i expected

real bone
sly elk
#

lol

real bone
sly elk
#

I'm always weirded out by overpasses in other states

real bone
#

creativity

#

this is concrete tho

#

da dum tss

modest moss
#

ffs pcpartpicker is shit

#

gives prices from stupid jank amazon marketplace people

#

dickheads

#

and then offering me newegg things that ship from USA

#

fuck off

hard drift
#

And then i check local/worldwide sellers

modest moss
#

there's a place called CEX who do used stuff, 12700k is £300 with 2 year warranty

#

that seems foolish

#

new it's just over £380

hard drift
#

Does it tell you how long it was used for?

modest moss
#

nah

#

lottery, some say it looked brand new in box just seal broken

#

don't think I'll risk it

#

I'm like

#

should I just order all this shit now

#

there are never good prices on shit I actually want on prime day

#

maybe a monitor will go on offer

#

but usually it's just old stock clearance

hard drift
#

Rip

bright oasis
#

Hey all! I am new to FF14. I was wondering if someone knew how to limit fps to a certain number in game or through nvidia? I have a 144 hz screen and my game generates over 210 fps and I want to limit it to at least 144.

#

is this an app?

#

I am not farmiliar

#

yep!

#

got it

#

and then settings?

#

thank you!

fair parcel
hard drift
#

i've gotten a few good things out of it deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerp but nothing super good

fair parcel
#

yeah I USED to be so pumped for it

modest moss
#

they're ok yeah, overclockers I'd rather avoid though, they gouged GPUs so hard

fair parcel
#

but not anymore

sly elk
modest moss
#

Scan I'm ordering mobo/ram from

hard drift
#

hoping these two things go on sale 🙏

#

discord why.... why can't you post them side by side 😭

fair parcel
#

noice

modest moss
#

that's the 980 pro nvme

#

do I trust that

#

unlikely used, more like open box

hard drift
#

not worth the risk 🙏

fair parcel
#

I mean does it come w/warranty

modest moss
#

I got the 980 pro new from scan for 8 quid more, fuck it

#

welp that's all ordered

#

yolo

hard drift
modest moss
#

I mean, I should be okay, I've ordered pretty standard parts

hard drift
#

i mean i have bad luck 😭 i manage to get DoA parts/problem children pretty often

modest moss
#

Asus, Corsair, Samsung, Intel, Nvidia and the WD is just additional storage

#

the case is probably the jankiest part

#

yeah I'm not worried about it, I just mean it like NZXT are probably the 'smallest' manufacturer

hard drift
#

the fact that you have the side panel off shows how shit the case was haha

#

only way to really get airflow in that awful case evilelmo

#

510 flow saved that line, now if only they made flow for all of the versions smh

modest moss
#

if the case is shit you're both dead

hard drift
#

ban me if it is 🙏 but the h510 is a solid case the only downfall was the fucking airflow which is literally why 510 flow exists

#

as it should be 🙏

odd sand
#

buying NZXT for airflow haha

hard drift
modest moss
#

my mate is suggesting I don't need a monitor and that this 1080p 75hz is good enough

#

and I'm like namazuconcern

hard drift
#

slap your mate for me

modest moss
#

you'd more than slap him

#

he devs UE5 on a 3090 at 1080p

hard drift
#

….

odd sand
jaunty light
#

1080p is a relic of the past now that we have 240hz 1440p panels

odd sand
#

As I said it comes down to framerates. 1440p is nice, but I personally wouldn't want it if it meant running games at like 60fps bc my GPU wasnt up to the task

modest moss
#

I feel like with what I've just bought I want 1440p 144hz

odd sand
#

1440p pushes 40% more pixels than 1080p so if you were getting 100fps on 1080p that means only 60fps on 1440p

#

Yeah they usually do 144, 165 or 240 now, but the fluidity gains from refresh basically hit very very diminishing returns above 120

modest moss
#

rtings telling me to buy LG monitor @potent arrow @hard drift explain this

#

£350

hard drift
#

That’s higher tier than the others namazuconcern

modest moss
#

it's a bit over budget, I'd like to spend under 300

#

but if it's actually that much better, idk maybe I should

hard drift
#

I mean keep an eye on that for prime day maybe then, it’s a good monitor but idk about that much better. Of course you’d expect higher priced ones to be better though

modest moss
#

interesting

#

that LG is 300 at other places

hasty harbor
#

Gamers, i need help, is samsung odyssey g5 c32g56 32 qhd any good and should i go for it?

#

I can’t fully rememeber what i have on rn, but what i do know its, that the one i have is 144hz, 1ms ips

hard drift
#

buy anything else but that, samsung QC(quality control) is garbage and it's eh to begin with

#

not to mention it's pretty dim and it's VA

hasty harbor
#

Oof

#

So scrap it

hard drift
#

Yup unless you’re willing to gamble, have a shitty monitor already, and your room is not too bright/has no sunlight

modest moss
#

is nano ips some bullshit LG term or is it actually better than ips?

hasty harbor
#

Any screen that pretty good at 2k?
Or 1440p

#

Thats ips

hard drift
sly elk
#

I admit, I am a bit apprehensive to try other stuff because I like how a good IPS monitor looks 😄

hard drift
#

so it's everything about ips but better in theory 🙏

hasty harbor
#

👌

hard drift
hasty harbor
#

I might take a look

hard drift
#

not to mention it doesn't "break the bank" depending on budget of course

hasty harbor
#

Thx

#

☄️

#

I just brought a new gpu

#

Rtx 3070 ti

hard drift
#

same as shue Eyes

hasty harbor
#

Its a triple fan one

#

What does shue have

hard drift
#

FE

hasty harbor
#

Fe?

hard drift
#

founders edition meaning nvidia made one

hasty harbor
#

Ah

hasty harbor
#

Mine is msi geforce rtx, 3070 ti gaming trio

hard drift
#

gaming trio isn't that bad

modest moss
#

both bought 3070ti, both hassling Bidori for a 1440p monitor

hard drift
#

😭

hasty harbor
#

I was lucky enough to find a gpu that doesn’t cost me a kidney

hard drift
#

time to leave so i cannot be hassled evilelmo

hard drift
modest moss
#

same, I got mine at UK MSRP from nvidia

hasty harbor
#

Not In Denmark why

modest moss
#

I think gpus are mostly 'normal' now

sly elk
#

yea

#

the prices now are a lot better

modest moss
#

still expensive af, but less gouged

hard drift
hasty harbor
umbral moss
#

newegg is sending out emails being like "discounts on 3090ti cards!"

#

and they're real discounts, like 20% off

hasty harbor
#

Oof

sly elk
#

like the 3080ti ftw3 is going for about $100 less than I paid for it ^_^

hard drift
sly elk
#

lol

#

yea

#

GOOD.

modest moss
#

nothing like that here yet

sly elk
#

because $1k is too damn much for a vidya card.

hard drift
#

1k is the most i'd ever pay

#

not counting this one

sly elk
#

word

hard drift
#

i saved up expecting this though lol

#

i knew it was coming pretty much

sly elk
#

right now i'd like it if motherboards got cheaper

hasty harbor
#

How good do you Think the gpu i have is

hard drift
#

it's pretty good

hasty harbor
#

The one i use before is 970 turbo oc

hard drift
#

lmfao jesus

#

yeah it's a huge increase

sly elk
#

haha I will point out

hasty harbor
#

Yeah i know its old af, but it did its and i was going to buy a gpu early if it Wasn’t for the pandemic

sly elk
#

when I bought my 1070ti it cost me $379

hard drift
#

aside from you upgrading resolution

hasty harbor
#

Can’t wait to see some bunny Ladies In hd

#

Aka the Way bunnies

sly elk
#

it looks to me like unless you're deal hunting, a 3070ti would cost $700 right now

hard drift
#

blocked 🤢

hasty harbor
modest moss
#

750 euros?

#

does Denmark use Euros?

#

or is that 750 USD?

hasty harbor
#

Oh snap, let me convert it

hard drift
#

lol

hasty harbor
#

What do you want to know it as

#

USD or eu

hard drift
#

usd/eu

modest moss
#

I paid 670 USD equivalent for mine

#

560 GBP

#

I included delivery and tax

hasty harbor
#

Its 900$ over here

#

Told you, the prices here are nasty

hard drift
hasty harbor
#

In Danish money its 6500kr

modest moss
#

just don't check prices going forward

#

you bought it, just enjoy it

hasty harbor
#

Ye

#

I havn’t even open the box yet, i want to wait

modest moss
#

I haven't opened mine either, I'm building a whole new rig

hasty harbor
#

Havn’t brought Any card for a long time so its a moment for me

#

Ay

#

I wish you luck frined i must sleep now, you have a good one

modest moss
#

you too

#

let us know what monitor you buy

umbral moss
hasty harbor
#

I might wait buying one atm

#

The one i have is doing a good job

#

But if i do looking for a new one i will come back here

umbral moss
#

I don't even know if hall effect switches are good for anything but I'll try anything if it's cheap enough lmao

#

speaking of cheap, acer's got the XB271HU on sale for $399

#

1440/144 IPS with g-sync

modest moss
#

not really available here

umbral moss
#

every time it's on sale it takes a lot of effort not to smash that buy button

#

so I can have two 27" 1440 displays instead of just one

modest moss
#

this is the front runner I think

#

rtings says it's the best midrange gaming monitor, so it's probably good

sly elk
#

random impromptu picture of my computer showcasing the right side XD

deep sapphire
#

@languid lava

modest moss
#

Hank, I evaded the bad influence from Bidori

#

I bought Intel/Nvidia

deep sapphire
#

Did you go Intel

#

Good

modest moss
#

12700k, yolo

deep sapphire
#

We both know, Intel chipsets just work better

#

Time is money

modest moss
#

yeah I went for reliability

deep sapphire
#

12700K is probably the best bang for your buck gaming CPU anyway

modest moss
#

obviously I might get unlucky, nothing is perfect, but I have a much higher chance of a smooth install

deep sapphire
#

It’s half the price of a 5800X with similar performance

modest moss
#

uh no it's not

deep sapphire
#

Gaming performance**

#

Sorry I meant

#

The new one

#

Wtf is it called again

#

With the 3D cache

modest moss
#

oh the 5800x-3d

deep sapphire
#

Yeah

modest moss
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yeah, not quite half here

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I paid 380

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the 5800x-3d is like 440

deep sapphire
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Savin money, Savin time not diagnosing random issues