technology-discussion

[graceful pine]

Direct injection

[sly elk]

"headphone splitters" can just be used in reverse as a combiner

[graceful pine]

It converts the signal into something for your pc or a mixing board

[outer sand]

ah yeah I'm trying to remember why I bought that pre-amp what the hell

[sly elk]

hmmmmm?

[graceful pine]

It’s a very dry sound

[outer sand]

like I don't need it and I don't hoard stuff zzz

very dry sound? 🤔

so using this splitter will compromise the quality from each keyboard and PC?

[graceful pine]

Well no

You’d just need to add in effects in the pc

[sly elk]

if you use them at the same time maybe

[graceful pine]

Sometimes di sounds are desirable

Funk guitar is a pure di sound

With some compression

Get a di unit maybe a 3.5 to 6.35 converter

Though question is why do you specifically want your pc’s external speakers

Is the keyboards built in just bad

Well it’s Casio so that answers itself ig

[outer sand]

trying to find why I bought that pre-amp

or maybe my stupid younger self didn't calculate enough

yeah if possible hehe

[graceful pine]

Well a direct line into the speaker would be easy

[outer sand]

I mean if I can improve the quality, but maybe you are right, I can just use the built-in speakers 😹

[graceful pine]

Though really an amp would be better here

Far more expensive though obviously

[graceful pine]

Yeah buying a preamp without an amp

Is uh something

[outer sand]

oh wait I finally remember..

direct connection between Shure S57 to PC won't work yeah?

requires pre-amp to be able to process the sound?

[graceful pine]

Usually yes

Well not to the pc

[outer sand]

ahhh finally.. ok nvm

[graceful pine]

To the amplifier or speaker

The preamp doesn’t help when running into the pc

[outer sand]

wait so S57 XLR male to 3.5 male to PC will work?

[graceful pine]

Into the pc not really

Unless the keyboard has a built in di

You’d want to run it through a di unit(or something similar)

[outer sand]

ok I'll just chuck the idea and use the internal keyboard speaker I reckon ._.

ty ty

[graceful pine]

Preamps are for amplifiers and speakers

What they do is boost the signal to make it easier for the amp

A di stabilizes the signal

[outer sand]

what's this?

from https://artproaudio.com/product/tube-mp-the-original/#key-features

that's the pre-amp I posted

is that the Di you were talking about?

[graceful pine]

No

That’s for going into an old school vacuum tube amplifier

That’s an old school preamp you bought lol

Vacuum tube

[outer sand]

yeah It was 9 years ago

[graceful pine]

No as in really old school

Vaccum tubes were replaced in the 60’s(in amplifiers)

They are still used when you want that vintage tube amp sound

That’s also a microphone preamp

Can be used with other things but meant for microphones

[outer sand]

ah yeah Shure SM57 is a microphone

I reckon It was used for that, figured it out

[graceful pine]

Sm57 is a very good microphone

One of the most popular studio mics

So you had an sm57

That makes sense you used that preamp with the mic

[outer sand]

at least I don't feel that stupid from buying the set, ty ty ._.

[graceful pine]

You have an sm57 still

[outer sand]

what do you mean? I should try to use it? 😹

[graceful pine]

If you need a desk mic

It’s one of the best

Been used since the 60’s in everything from live and studio music to presidential speeches

[outer sand]

ok hmm, I'll give it a thought, I'll try to figure out, this is a good opportunity probably since I just recently broke my headset ._.

but

[graceful pine]

Though you’ll need an audio interface

Run from the preamp into the interface into your pc

But that mic is really good

[outer sand]

I'm afraid if my relative come and see my PC setup, they'll ask me to sing, and if they figured out my voice is bad, they'll laugh at me

[outer sand]

interface means?

[graceful pine]

Audio interface

They’re not that expensive

The preamp will boost the signal from the mic prevent it from distorting and increasing quality, then the interface will convert it into a signal your pc can read

Anyhow I need to sleep gn

[outer sand]

night2, ty for the help

[potent arrow]

Why do you need a preamp for the 57 0_o

Mines fine running straight into my Scarlet

[sly elk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/macsetups/comments/vkfjhi/my_home_office/

[outer sand]

vertical monitor is for coding?

is there any other purpose beside that?

[inland mauve]

it makes your screen setup look like an H

[dull garnet]

Twitter

[potent arrow]

Facebook gamer

[modest moss]

Discord android app is so shit

Telling me I have a ping but not actually having a ping

fu stan

[potent arrow]

@modest moss ^

[modest moss]

Dogs fucking love that lol

[potent arrow]

https://youtu.be/UzZ-GhToUwY

[royal forge]

Videocardz really needs to proofread their articles

Latest leak says 4080 has 18gb, in that very srticke talkin anout the leak, they say 16gb

Koplite even mentions "dont expect lower prices" like.. yep. Thats nvidia alright

[potent arrow]

Im brooding rn on how I'll shove a 4090 in a sub 9L without setting a housefire

[royal forge]

Do it

Free space heater

Wasnt there that YT guy who kept goin on about leaks a while back?

Uhhh was it Moore's Law?

[potent arrow]

Idk, I like him

He does some pretty good SFF builds, and it's why I follow him lol

[royal forge]

I dont really follow him so i dunoe if his leaks were legit or pullin outta his ass

[potent arrow]

He's quoting from videocardz and speculating based on his own experience

[royal forge]

Hmm? Are we talkin about Moore's law is dead?

As in, the same person?

[potent arrow]

No this video

I dont know what video you are are referring to at all

[royal forge]

I mean, when u said this

[potent arrow]

I meant the guy I linked Aoi

[royal forge]

AH

Oh. Ok. Sorry.

[umbral moss]

🤔

[versed herald]

Can dust cause analog stick drift? I have a DualShock4 that was experiencing some intermittent drifting on the right analog. Today I decided to crack it open and just swap the board(with sticks attached) with another I had just laying about.
The one that was just laying about didn't seem to work at all and when I put everything back with their original components my stick drift was completely gone.

I've never experienced stick drift related to just dust before is it really possible? Sorry for the long message.

[potent arrow]

Yeah it pretty much is the primary cause

[versed herald]

First time that's happened to me. I usually have to get the analog replaced or replace the entire controller.

Guess I got lucky for once

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1630-has-been-tested-its-even-slower-than-amd-radeon-rx-6400 oh no the ewaste is even worse than thought 😭

[umbral moss]

at least it isn't an intel arc

such a disappointment that as soon as the review embargo ended people stopped caring

not even shitty enough to meme on, just disappointed silence

[hard drift]

i mean it's pretty bad still 😭 it's 170-200 dollars for the 1630

[umbral moss]

could be worse, it could be $350 because it's the only GPU you can find on a shelf

[copper thunder]

I copied the game to a new laptop and placed it in its correct location in the steam files
but it still lets me download the game when i launch it
is there anything i could do about it to not have to download the game again?

[versed zenith]

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[umbral moss]

the version check will get you no matter what, I think

[versed zenith]

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[hard drift]

if you specify the same location it'll just verify it pretty much

[versed zenith]

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[kindred brook]

do some mobos

increase fps?

and if they do is it like

negligible?

[hard drift]

i mean some motherboards handle certain cpus better if you're using say a first gen am4 board with a 5000 or 5800x3d so i mean in a roundabout way yes, but the testing was negligible for the gains and it would matter even less at higher resolutions

[kindred brook]

so like is all PCI-E lanes like equal

or does like different chipsets

or controllers

etc

make any differences

[hard drift]

for the most part the difference between 3 and 4 is negligible still

[hard drift]

as far as i know not really but i could be wrong on that one

[hard drift]

also what're you looking at buying now

[kindred brook]

WhAT!

Nothing

[hard drift]

lies

these questions don't just come out of thin air

[kindred brook]

https://tenor.com/view/puppet-awkward-looking-what-side-eye-gif-15476992

[hard drift]

so what're you looking at buying smh

[kindred brook]

Maybe waiting forr am5

or next gen intel

[hard drift]

okay but why those questions then?

[kindred brook]

was curious

if pci-e lanes

actually made a diff

[hard drift]

they do make a difference for sure but at the current place we are, v4 instead of v5 won't be much different 99% chance

if it was gen 2 or something it'd be a lot worse of course

[kindred brook]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/corsair-vengeance-32gb-2pk-x-16gb-5200mhz-ddr5-c40-dimm-desktop-memory-black/6491252.p?skuId=6491252

I was looking at this

and then I remember bidori saying

DDR5 under 32 GB sticks

is dogshit

[hard drift]

nah

[kindred brook]

whats c40

[hard drift]

it's ddr4 cl20 basically but the difference between cache latency is pretty negligible for most people

[hard drift]

it's the cache latency

[hard drift]

how is it dogshit?

32 is fine, 16 is not lol for ddr5 atleast

also wtf are you needing more than 32 for?

[kindred brook]

I dunno

Maybe it was 8 GB DDR5 sticks

[hard drift]

yeah, 8GB ddr5 sticks are dogshit because it's not spec

[kindred brook]

oh ok

I think I wait for better cache to be cheaper then

what should I look for?

C21?\

oh

c36?

whats the equivalent of ddr4 3200

for ddr5

why does latency dramatically increase

in ddr5 oo

wait isn't latency a delay?

so like why would more speed = bigger delay

DAMN

[potent arrow]

God

Making a PC partpicker list rn for a client

And I'm just using w/e parts I have in stock

And it looks like I'm a crack head pc

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/cdhjJM

All this for a secretary 🤣

Because it's so fucking overkill

Literally just random parts I had in inventory

I thought I had some 5600g left

Nope.

None at all .-.

So some secretary is getting a 5700g.

Perfect xD

I wonder if I should buy more 5600g

Or will we get new APUs soon and it'll waste money

Cuz building people's systems these days are using all of my APUs

[modest moss]

1200 bucks for an office pc

oof

[potent arrow]

Canadian dollars

Doesn't really get any better

Also I bought these wayyyy before the shortage so the actual price is ~800$

Bruh

U already know I'm Toronto based

[hard drift]

it won't really matter for your average person

[odd sand]

Latency has gone up consistently with the ram speeds. DDR2 was like 6, DDR3 8-9, DDR4 14-16. I will say it is a bigger jump than in the past tho seeing as DDR5 latency is what? 30+?

I guess that could help explain why its performance is kinda lackluster still outside of some very specific use-cases

[umbral moss]

doesn't DDR5 use a radically different structure from the traditional tras setup?

which is why the latency is way out of sync compared to what you'd expect, given the DDR2-3-4 evolution?

[odd sand]

They use two half-channels is all I know about

[umbral moss]

I thought there was some kind of new voltage regulator or something and that's why the latency spiked so much

they couldn't just be like "make more speed", they changed something about the dimm PCB to enable DDR5-6-7

[paper tusk]

Yeah i want to say ram sticks have extra stuff on them

[kindred brook]

what do you mean "extra stuff"

[paper tusk]

And its still new enough that decent latency is stupid expensive (double for a 30 kit which is 50-75 bucks going from ddr4 3600 to ddr5-36)

I want to also say voltage regulation

Registered clock driver and temp regulation

[kindred brook]

so is this "smart" memory?

[paper tusk]

Not sure as much smart as hacks to ensure everything is happy

Pin swap especially

[hard drift]

Yes it has the controller i believe it is on the ram stick and then the datator something is handled differently

[umbral moss]

I wonder if the penalty is because of the unoptimized micro

[hard drift]

Maybe, i know it also has ECC and such built into it

[umbral moss]

ECC is a pretty significant performance hit too

I bet most benchmarkers don't know how much ECC slows memory down

[sly elk]

it's cheap compared to a salary tho

[modest moss]

but you can buy a perfectly capable pc for a secretary for half that

[dull garnet]

hey if they give you a dumb budget go with it

[modest moss]

oh sure Sarah should charge whatever, idc

[boreal surge]

Kraft... peanut butter?

[sly walrus]

probably a thing in canada

[kindred brook]

kraft

does not make peanut butter here

no

[boreal surge]

Oh?

Not in the US or not in SEA iirc.

[kindred brook]

WTF

kraft owns dr pepper

[fair parcel]

they all own each other

[odd sand]

I don't think they do. Dr Pepper is part of the Dr Pepper Snapple Group

I do find it ironic Snapple has their name on the company when nobody actually buys Snapple anymore

Apparently Dr Pepper Snapple was bought by Keurig in 2018, so its Keurig Dr Pepper now. Also Keurig first started in 1993 wow... it took them a long time to break into the mainstream then bc I had never heard of keurig k-cups etc. before like 8-10 years ago

I knew K-cups were a terrible value, but geezus:

It also fueled enormous revenue growth, and allowed GMCR to transition fully from deriving 95% of its revenue from its low-margin wholesale coffee business in the late 1990s (approximately $65 million), to deriving 95% of its revenue from high-margin sales of K-Cups as of 2014 (more than $4.3 billion).

Ahh, I followed the acquisition soup: Dr Pepper was owned by Cadbury, then Cadbury was bought by Kraft, but they spun off Dr Pepper Snapple which was then purchased by Green Mountain/Keurig.

[graceful pine]

they still don't make peanut butter

and planters is hormel

[odd sand]

What is called Rockets there are Smarties in the US heh

The other smarties are also called smarties tho. Knock-off M and Ms

[modest moss]

Smarties came out like 4 years before M&Ms apparently

"Forrest Mars, Sr., son of the Mars Company founder, Frank C. Mars, copied the idea for the candy in the 1930s during the Spanish Civil War when he saw soldiers eating British-made Smarties"

RULE BRITANNIA etc

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/lelouch-vi-britannia-code-geass-gif-25066827

[graceful pine]

smarties are very much an old school candy

[sly walrus]

remember that episode where a cat stole his mask

[sly elk]

I like the ones in the roll

besides if you want the really oldschool version

[graceful pine]

Also how has the tech channel become a candy channel

[umbral moss]

candy is a technological marvel

[jaunty light]

also known as tums

[sly elk]

hmmm

I want to say they're not like tums at all

but I haven't had either kind in ages

[paper tusk]

Review: Palit GeForce GTX 1630 4GB Dual so the e-waste is out already?

[jaunty light]

not exceptionally like tums but they remind me of them a little

tums are way chalkier

[sly elk]

that's what I was thinking

there are some varieties of tums that are decent

i think those

[paper tusk]

https://target.scene7.com/is/image/Target/GUEST_9468b11b-ef2b-4cda-be43-f5c6b932a86a?wid=2220&hei=2220&fmt=pjpeg

[sly elk]

heh

i graduated to the hardcore stuff

[jaunty light]

i just use alka seltzer gold

eating chalk doesn't tame what is apparently the pits of hell when I get heartburn

[sly elk]

pantoprazole when my stomach decides to tell me to go F myself

[deep sapphire]

I love that box

Looks like something out of the 60s

[deep sapphire]

Lmao I use to get the chocolate ones as a kid all the time

[modest moss]

get rid of that fancy new fangled QR code

[umbral moss]

I still don't know why QR codes are a thing in the year of the affixed god 2022

they're a huge security risk because they can be a remote attack vector for smartphones

I vaguely remember seeing an article that there's an improved version of QR codes that don't have the ability to perform remote attacks but I may have been hallucinating reading an imaginary article at 4 in the morning one day

[umbral moss]

yo sarah, cerakey sent out their survey today

I'm sorely tempted to buy the keys without legends and etch them on with my laser cutter when I get it

[umbral moss]

bought a second set of keys on pledgebox, probably shouldn't have gotten similar shades but I want to see them in person before I install them on the board

[deep sapphire]

And that DeWalt chair

[modest moss]

didn't even notice that, shouldn't it be yellow with black text anyway?

[jaunty light]

How much grip an eagle got

[potent arrow]

I got legendless

[umbral moss]

same

why have them paint the legends on when I can etch them on later

can make them whatever font I want too

instead of the stock 1988 IBM font

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2QPTcRIipk

I really wanna see how many components I can get that have pastel colors

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/accessories/connectivity/usb-c-10gbps-cable-model-d/black/ why Fractal

[quaint spear]

hi

I was thinking of hooking up some computers at a business.

should I put the cables going up into the drop ceiling or along the walls near the baseboard? Say I used extra long USB cables and a long HDMI cable for the monitor.

would this lag the games?

[boreal surge]

I don’t think how you hang a cable will affect lag.

[quaint spear]

(seperating the players from the actual hardware in the back of strore)

Oh.... but wifi would
?

[boreal surge]

Oh you mean video cables

[quaint spear]

USB for KBs and mice..

[boreal surge]

Maybe? I noticed enough lag when I tried to play WRC with a monitor hooked up to a laptop

[quaint spear]

I don't want the customers to steal my expensive gaming PCs or break them.

ah, but I mean desktops

[boreal surge]

Gonna be a hard sell I guess, I don’t think most netcafes keep their PCs separated from their play area

[quaint spear]

oh

I wasn't aware

I could lock them up in. the desk I guess....

[boreal surge]

You could probably lock them up under every desk

Or get a security guard

[quaint spear]

hmm okay

I used to goto a store called Funcoland... they had TVS and consoles in a glass case built into the walll

the case was locked. but the controllers were accesble

(they were bought by Game Stoop)

thx for the input

[modest moss]

that's what insurance is for

[sly elk]

I can think of a few ways to do it

one easy way would be to use rackmount PCs in a locked cabinet in between each pod of tables or whatever

you shouldn't really have lag problems using long cables, but long cables will get very very cumbersome very quickly.

you can do HDMI over ethernet, and I think there are solutions where you'd put a dongle on each end with hdmi/usb stuff

[deep sapphire]

Just put the PCs in locked cabinets

Make sure they have enough holes on the back for ventilation

[boreal surge]

Hmmmm how laggy is local WLAN you think, as they suggested earlier?

Cause like in tech offices that's a de facto requirement in lieu of the absolute cabling nightmare

[jaunty light]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1614302-REG/asus_rog_strix_rtx3090_o24g_white_rog_strix_geforce_rtx.htmlutm_source=b%26h&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=stock&utm_content=textlink

[hard drift]

garbage... 1900 for that when you can get a ti model for that less than that

[jaunty light]

Yeah but its not a white strix

[hard drift]

just make it white smh

[sly elk]

Wut?!

[boreal surge]

What do you mean wut?

Ok in big tech office at least

[sly elk]

Wut

[boreal surge]

There are already internet cables thicker than my leg in the office. Imagine wiring them to the couple hundred desks there

[odd sand]

Cheap option would be powder coated wire cages to lock them in with the cables looped around to avoid yanking them out, or the more expensive option is fiberoptic display and usb from a back room

If you want expertise you might be able to contact convention game room staff for their tips. In my state is one called World9, for example. But I think some of them just rely on security and maybe those laptop table locks

[inland mauve]

if you want to let customers mess around on PCs might want to look into putting them into some kind of kiosk mode, or getting allowlist software

so that chucklefucks can't just install dumb shit on them

[boreal surge]

Are netcafes still a profitable business these days?

[devout nexus]

hard to say, the ones around here lost a ton of business when iphone came out

80% of their business dropped

they had to close down but that was ages ago

i dont think its self sustainable anymore it needs to be complimentary to another business to exist

[odd sand]

The one thing that's profitable these days are the retro barcade type places. So I could see one where you served alcohol and had lounge couches for console maybe a pinball section, and some PCs.

Any hourly rates for the PCs would have to be cheap though and try to make your profit on the booze and appetizers or something IMHO.

Maybe some area for card or boardgames

[late basalt]

that's why you put them inside locked "service" cages like others have said (and i belatedly noticed)

[sly elk]

That’s what you use that ghost image stuff for, I forgot the name

But basically it just overlays ramdisk onto the hard drive so anything installed goes away after a reboot

I forgot what the heck they call that

Seems it’s called deep freeze

They used something like that when I was in high school lol. You could run anything you wanted

[umbral moss]

when I worked for my university we maintained an image repo and just blew away any computer the user helplessly fucked up putting bonzi buddy or whatever shit on it

help my PC is slow

hope you didn't leave anything on it, it's getting re-imaged

[inland mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-deal-with-it-gif-7717548

was bonzi really that bad?

[umbral moss]

yeah

it was incredibly invasive behind the scenes and acted as a remote telemetry tool

plus it wasted a ton of up front processing power because whoever designed it was a shithead who decided to make all the animations CPU rendered

[inland mauve]

damn

[umbral moss]

there were so many of those stupid desktop "assistant" things back in the late 90s, but bonzi buddy was the most popular for some godforsaken reason

[inland mauve]

because people like funny monkeys

that's why those fucking ape NFTs were so popular

[umbral moss]

I mean, there was one that put a little stripper on your desktop

and bonzi was still more popular

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[inland mauve]

yes but your computer illiterate mom isn't going to put a stripper on the family computer

[umbral moss]

sure, but let's not forget that porn is the reason we have high capacity hard drives and fast internet lmao

phone screens literally increased in size the instant people figured out that cellular internet service was fast enough to watch porn on

[sharp harbor]

the famous 10% informational website and the rest % is pure debauchery

[umbral moss]

I mean, yeah

there's wikipedia and the rest is porn

[sharp star]

Alright, time to settle this once and for all (or not). I've been thinking about using two separate PCI-E 6+2 pin cables instead of daisy chaining them. I've been hearing stuff that ranges from "daisy chaining is fine", to "using two separate cables is better". Since GPUs are so damn power hungry nowadays, do you guys think this might be a good move?

My PSU is basically a rebranded Seasonic Focus GX-850 which is why I'm asking

[odd sand]

Not very user friendly, but often the most efficient method of resolution since you can re-image a machine in like 15mins.

[umbral moss]

yeah, absolutely

[odd sand]

I've heard of doing that, also something called Deep Freeze that resets a PC to baseline every time it gets rebooted

[umbral moss]

I stopped troubleshooting stuff once the repo was online

"it's broke" and it isn't a hardware failure? re-image, fuck you

[odd sand]

Since ostensibly students shouldnt install anything and all files should be saved to their network drive

[umbral moss]

not sitting here for an hour trying to figure out how you got super computer herpes

[umbral moss]

student accounts should never have install privileges

universal access list restriction 😔

[odd sand]

Granted, you think there would just be a GPO preventing apps from being installed, or an Allow List for apps

[umbral moss]

that's more powerful than the windows XP machines I was in charge of

they were also just learning good practices for firewalling each building after some moron brought an MS blaster infected machine onto the network and took half the campus down

[odd sand]

Oh, mid 2000s network "security" shudder

[umbral moss]

yeah

[sharp star]

https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-is-set-to-halt-production-of-the-rtx-3080-12gb/

[umbral moss]

your options back then were "reformat" and "kick users in the face"

[umbral moss]

time to naked short nvidia stock

can probably get it for a song in six months when they announce a 50% drop in GPU revenue thank to the crypto bust

(nvidia notoriously misrepresents their crypto sales as "gaming" sector sales because they only consider GPU sales as "gaming" regardless of where the cards end up)

watch their Q3 report where they report their gaming sector revenue and you'll see what I mean

[sharp star]

lmao

[odd sand]

The writing was already on the wall with how places like Newegg are trying to fire sale their cards

[umbral moss]

yeah

this happened with the 10 series too

[odd sand]

I think on the WAN show they mentioned they saw some 3080s on ebay as low as $575 but I wonder if that is a scam or a burned out mining card heh

[umbral moss]

crypto boom, nvidia stock goes to the moon, crypto bust, nvidia stock eats shit

you can absolutely run a 30% under value nvda naked short and make a ton of money in a few months

[odd sand]

Yeah normally I would say 40 series would see a large boost to Nvidia stock and crypto prices, but at this point the price is so low it won't make sense to do new mining for a while yet

[umbral moss]

crypto isn't going anywhere as long as there's a larger pullback in speculative investing

[odd sand]

I don't understand that stuff enough to try shorting stock

[umbral moss]

it's doomed to this death spiral as smart money dumps liquidity into safe havens like t-bills and dividend funds

[umbral moss]

ok, so a stock short is functionally selling a stock at price X today, and re-purchasing it at price Y in the future

if Y is less than X, you win

if Y is more than X, you fucked up

[odd sand]

Surely most people know that is going to happen though, so why would anyone buy your short

[umbral moss]

naked shorts are where it gets dangerous, because you're not loaning out something you own, you actually own nothing so you're on the hook for the premium of the sale and on the repurchase of the share

[umbral moss]

because they want the stock now

shorts are usually a hedge bet

the GME gamma squeeze is what happens when stock availability dries up and shorts come due

you can lose $infinity if you naked short something and the price spirals beyond what you made from the original sale

which is how reddit bankrupted melcap

[odd sand]

Yeah I heard they went under recently with the market tanking

[umbral moss]

they were already grievously wounded from GME

reddit wiped something like $20 billion off melcap's ledger because of the gamma squeeze

[odd sand]

Yeah that other hedge fund already bailed them out

[umbral moss]

way overleveraged on GME naked shorts and they never expected a bunch of baboons with computers to just blindly throw money at a dead company like that

under normal circumstances melcap's strategy would have made them loadsamoney

[odd sand]

Yeah who was betting on GME back then. Heck realistically who is doing it now even.

[umbral moss]

GME's short interest is still fairly high, but the positions are far more conservative because of all the dipshit hodlers eating up the float

[odd sand]

The price is still based on ppl hoping for some type of Omega squeeze, not revenue or business prospects

[umbral moss]

yeah, it's pure market distortion because of how finbros have structured stocks

derivative trading was a mistake

[odd sand]

I like Yahoo Finance's page on Tesla with its P/E of 96 saying "Fairly Valued"

[umbral moss]

I don't know why people ride elon's dick so much

tesla has had what, 6 years to fix their quality issues?

and they still rank at the bottom in initial quality?

they're worse, on average, than hyundai was in the 80s

and hyundai was a budget brand that made absolute dogshit cars

[odd sand]

I don't even think I was aware of Hyundai until the mid 90s

[umbral moss]

if you drove a hyundai accent up too steep of a hill the transaxle would blow out

couldn't have the AC on if you wanted to climb a 5 degree grade

or the engine didn't have enough power to climb it

[odd sand]

As the rest of the market jumps on the EV wagon in the next 5 years, I think Tesla is gonna tumble pretty badly.

[umbral moss]

yeah

hyundai, ironically, is getting really high marks for the ioniq series

[odd sand]

Which may be why he was doomsaying about bankruptcy last week

[umbral moss]

the ioniq 6 looks breddy gud and they said it'll be cheaper than the 5

[odd sand]

I like the looks of the EV6 more than the Ioniq, but it's mostly the same platform

[umbral moss]

I thought daddy elon moved to the Free State of Texas because having no corporate tax would save tesla

oh wait, he just wanted to dodge paying taxes, never mind

[odd sand]

Pretty much every rich person ever

[umbral moss]

isn't EV6 the ioniq 6?

hyundai's been barely on my radar so I don't know the difference

[odd sand]

EV6 is the Kia EV using the same powertrain afaik

Hyundai and Kia are apparently owned by the same parent company, so they do some amount of platform sharing ala GM brands

[umbral moss]

yeah

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-releases-arc-gpu-drivers-with-a770m-a550m-support-3dmark-optimization-toggle-now-available intel allowing us to disable benchmark optimization

[umbral moss]

great, now the benchmarks will perform as poorly as real programs

based

[hard drift]

[sly elk]

I'm thinking the same

the funny thing is that the transition to mass market EVs is a great time for new companies to get in and disrupt things... and also established companies with a bad rep to improve their rep

-points at someone on jalopnik considering the cadillac lyriq the best EV- -hides-

i would like it a lot better if it had a normal trunk instead of that pseudo SUV look

[jaunty light]

You just had to stop at jalopnik

[sly elk]

eh it's remarkable for a site that generally hates on american cars

[umbral moss]

poggin, the celestiq costing $300k

why not just buy a fuckin rolls royce EV for that much

[graceful pine]

it feels like they'll kinda become that luxury niche

like important for the initial boom of EV's, but no longer dominant

though wouldn't be surprised if Space X becomes bigger than tesla in profits

depending on how succesful starship is

[sly elk]

but the lyriq costs 60k-ish

i'd take it over a model 3 all day long

i think model 3s are supposed to cost 40-50 though so that's quite a jump

[odd sand]

Everything has to be a fucking SUV in the US market these days for whatever reason. I don't get it.

[umbral moss]

because americans want giant heavy SUVs

[odd sand]

I'm 95% certain it's just because margins are higher on SUVs, so they neglected the platforms for their sedans and coupes to drive people into SUVs

[umbral moss]

if I get into an accident, I want the other person to die

europoors love hatchbacks, so it's not like the form factor is exclusively an american thing

[odd sand]

Lag behind on bluetooth and builtin navigation and other features and oh look, people reluctantly go with the SUV. Then the automakers are like "Oh look! Our highest margin segment has booming sales! Guess we cancel all the normal cars now!"

[umbral moss]

it's also because SUVs are the most popular platform in america, owing to their size, weight, and perceived safety due to the above

[odd sand]

Except for that whole rollover thing

And the whole "Pancake pedestrians, killing them, instead of having them glance off."

[sly elk]

also, dogs are very popular these days

almost everyone I know who bought an suv did this because they wanted to carry their dog in the back

[umbral moss]

that's exactly why people want them

there's a really weird sentiment that in the event of an accident, the other person involved should die

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-suv-canyonero-car-crash-gif-16295747

[odd sand]

I think the N64 cartridges are probably the most sturdy bc they seemed to have the thickest cases

[umbral moss]

more like noooo there's a speck of dust on my contacts I won't work at all

CDs were a massive improvement over cartridges 😔

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/intel-pentium-ii-pentium-intel-pentium-intel-pentium-ii-ad-gif-22232304

Except for Best CPU rite

[jaunty light]

[sly elk]

I can hear this gif

https://tenor.com/view/pentium-iii-pentium-intel-intel-pentium-intel-pentium-iii-gif-22232359

[odd sand]

Dun do DUN duh DUNN

Yeah the P3 also had the cartridge design up to like 1ghz was it?

[sly elk]

idk. I remember there being some real downsides to buying the cartridge instead of the socket 370

i think it had a slower bus speed

[odd sand]

I want to say P2 was like 266-300-333-400 ... and P3 started with 450?

[sly elk]

I did a P3 build with a generic PSU that blew up and killed it, and later replaced it with a celery build

looks like they did 500-1ghz

https://www.cpu-upgrade.com/CPUs/Intel/Pentium_III/1BGHz_(Slot_1).html

[odd sand]

I remember was it the P2 or P3 Celeron that was just an insane overclocker

[sly elk]

they also admittedly didn't look nearly as cool irl

[odd sand]

You could like, double the clockrate in OC with the Celeron

[sly elk]

the heatsink clip always covered up the cool looking hologram

it was cool being to yank the cpu with the heatsink attached, though!

plus with water coolers these days, sure why not.

[odd sand]

I didn't realize they had Slot1 and Socket 370 of the same speeds between 800 and 1100. An odd choice.

Also didn't realize in general that P3 went back to normal sockets and had a range of 450-1400mhz. early 2000s was really wild for speed increases heh

I went from P2-300 to an AMD Thunderbird 1.1ghz, so I didn't pay much attention to Intel in that period

[sly elk]

the period between like 1998 and 2002

things went freaky fast

[umbral moss]

thunderbirds hitting 2.5GHz from like, 800 MHz was hilarious

just keep putting volts and it keeps clocking

now CPUs are like "oh you increased the frequency 1 Hz? hope you like sync errors everywhere and constant crashing"

[sly elk]

like we went from 300mhz to 3ghz in less than 5 years

i think**

[umbral moss]

yeah, transistor design was wild then

now it's incremental 1-2% gains YOY and a lot of "don't worry guys, the revolution is coming"

[sly elk]

yea but my watch has a more powerful cpu than my computer did back then XD

[odd sand]

That sounds too crazy but you're mostly right. I had the P2-300 in like 1998 and Prescott 3ghz it says was Feb 2004 so 6 years

and by late 2004 they were at 3.8ghz

[sly elk]

ye

my christmas present in 98 was a cyrix 266 it was.. outdated by then of course

but it wasn't like buying a core duo today

[odd sand]

It's interesting then how we pushed 4ghz by 2005 and then sorta hit a thermal wall on that for the next 10 years. Although I guess going multicore means you had to keep clocks down bc the cores are all close together

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blow-galaxy-explode-boom-fireworks-gif-5139389

Going from P4 1.8 to X2 3800+ was

"You mean I can open a browser and an explorer window at the same time and not lag up for 30 seconds?"

[sly elk]

yea i think at this point a lot of performance improvements come from custom logic being made to do specific things

like video encoding/decoding

a lot of what made 2000s computers irritating to watch youtube videos with, for example, was h264 decoding

[odd sand]

Everyone rages about AVX512 now, but I don't really understand how that relates to the average user

[sly elk]

it's like a kitchen full of gadget appliances vs one that has none

and having to cook popcorn in a frying pan

vs having a dedicated machine that makes popcorn perfectly and quicker

[odd sand]

Haha yeah I remember for anime club I was showing 1080p encodes of Dennou Coil in like 2008 and the H264 decoding was using like 97% CPU. Now playing a video is like 3% CPU

It's hard for me to tell how good the gains really are these days though, since most of their benchmarks push multicore performance and such

When in reality, single-threaded IPC is still very important in games even if Unreal is pretty good at offloading to helper threads these days

I'm hoping the price of the 13900 isnt too high, but I assume since the 12900 was like 599, that they're going to charge at least 599 if not 649 for it

I got my 9900 on sale for like 430, otherwise I think they were normally going for 499

[umbral moss]

silicon has a frequency wall around 4GHz at room temperatures

the switching losses become bonkers no matter what your transistor node size is

5 GHz is the hard limit, getting over 5 requires very special conditions and/or sub-ambient cooling

it's why intel abandoned netburst, their theoretical model showed they could take netburst up to some shit like 8GHz before they needed to change uarch

https://tenor.com/view/shannon-sharpe-shay-nope-nah-nuhuh-gif-12298561

but physics was like

[odd sand]

Which is why I'm kinda sus on them talking about 5.5 5.8 even 6.0 ghz turbo

[modest moss]

gang I think this 4690k box is dying

cry for me

[umbral moss]

it might be possible if you have some specially doped silicon that can trigger that quickly

or a radical redesign of the SOI mosfet that's been in service for what, 25 years?

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/pour-one-out-for-the-homies-old-english800-gif-14309934

[hard drift]

It lived a good life 🙏

Hopefully it lives long enough for 13th gen to release if you plan on staying intel

[winter cave]

Someone help me find a good steam link handheld

I wanna play games in bed

[jaunty light]

Mm yeah baby olde english

[modest moss]

I can't afford new tech lol

[hard drift]

😔

[modest moss]

I also don't have the energy to build a new pc that'll just use obscene amounts of electricity

[jaunty light]

Shue come to USA

[modest moss]

nah, that's not an option

[hard drift]

Go amd apu next time then

[bitter girder]

sure ill come

[modest moss]

! mute bidoro 1234567890

[hard drift]

😔 fine then

You know I’m right though 😭

[modest moss]

5600g isn't going to give me the same gaming performance as this 4690k/1080

[hard drift]

I said next gen originally but then changed it next time

[hard drift]

Sure maybe not but it’ll cut power consumption by far for playable performance

[modest moss]

I might impulse purchase a laptop on a cc and then recycle other crap to the kids, idk

[bitter girder]

apu gaming

hey guys apu gaming here

[modest moss]

don't lie Lewis

[jaunty light]

Lewis the chewb enthusiast

[modest moss]

Intel Core i7 (11th Gen) 11370H

is this terrible

@hard drift

[hard drift]

i mean what're you other options since stuff is differently priced over there? generally speaking i'd go for a 12th gen laptop if going intel otherwise anything amd cpu wise would generally be better in terms of battery life and performance

not to mention the igpu being superior vs intel if using it for that case

[modest moss]

it's in an Asus 15.6" with 500gb nvme, 16gb ram, 3070

£999

[boreal surge]

That sounds amazing

outside of the 500gb nvme, you're fitting jack in there.

Got a link for us?

[modest moss]

tech is so shit

[hard drift]

overall that's pretty good but the cpu could be better and is the ram soldered/does it have an extra m.2 slot?

[modest moss]

https://uk.store.asus.com/asus-tuf-dash-15400.html

[boreal surge]

Well there's a reason I shoved in my own 2TB HDD in mine

[hard drift]

yeah that's pretty decent for the price, ram can be changed and nvme expanded if i'm reading this right. make sure it has enough ports for your use case though otherwise it's pretty good overall

[boreal surge]

Ok, is this series new? It seems like unusually good price to performance if you ask me

[modest moss]

2021

it's 11th gen i7 so I guess they want rid

it's white, and a small screen, idk if it's what I want

I hate tech

really hate it

[hard drift]

lol i don't blame you

i would've recommended an amd one in that price category but looking at this they gimped the amd versions with shitty ram/gpus

8gb of ram and a 3050ti for the same price is awful....

[boreal surge]

Tbh it's enough to tempt me to replace my existing laptop... if I actually played anything more intensive.

[hard drift]

i'd wait for next gen laptops, they'll have a kick ass apu in them when phoenix/dragon range apus come to them

plus battery life will probably be really good 🙏

[modest moss]

I want something that's an upgrade on a 1080 if I buy anything

3070 should at least be that

[hard drift]

yeah but going to laptop is a bit iffy

[hard drift]

it will for sure be that plus dlss and crap if you care about that

and dldsr or whatever the fuck nvidia calls their all game scaling thing

[modest moss]

but then I'm like, is the extra £200 worth it for something like https://www.box.co.uk/82JU00PWUK-Lenovo-Legion-5-AMD-Ryzen-7-16GB-RAM-512_4095716.html

or I spend £1300 and get this https://www.box.co.uk/82JY00GWUK-Lenovo-Legion-5-17-AMD-Ryzen-7-16GB-RAM-_4095717.html

AMD Ryzen 7 5800H Octa Core Processor
17.3" Full HD IPS 144Hz Screen
Windows 11 Home 64-bit
16GB DDR4 RAM
512GB M.2 NVMe SSD
Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070 8GB Graphics

that Ryzen 5800H is going to shit on the 11th gen i7 I'd imagine

[hard drift]

this one is basically the same as the other one just bigger screen

[modest moss]

and then 17.3" screen over 15.6" is worth £100

seeing as I don't go anywhere

[hard drift]

yeah, i personally don't like 17.3 though so i mean up to you if you go that route lol

it's too big of a laptop imo

[modest moss]

I'd be using it as a desktop anyway

[hard drift]

but yeah the 5800h is pretty damn good compared to 11th gen mobile

[modest moss]

idk

[sly elk]

-shrug-

15" is a happy spot for me

but 17" is fun to use

[modest moss]

I'd be sitting in the same place I'm currently using a 27"

ugh fuck all this nonsense

[sly elk]

i wouldn't wanna use a laptop screen of any size over a nice desktop monitor

tricky part is high dpi vs normal dpi

[jaunty light]

4k 15in lappy

[modest moss]

I think you've missed the part where I'm poor

[sly elk]

1366x768 17" lappy

pretty sure i've seen some dumbass on reddit compare a 17" acer with a 1366x768 screen to a macbook pro as the reason the macbook pro was overpriced

[jaunty light]

Come to america and 50% of the time you potentially can be somewhat wealthy

[modest moss]

Honk with his usual lazy contributions

[jaunty light]

Cant believe ud call me lazy

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/garfield-lazy-so-done-gif-17992895

[jaunty light]

I'm giving you solutions

[boreal surge]

Well in all fairness the wealthy bit these days requires working in big tech

And honestly it sounds more like 10% of the time you can be wealthy

[hard drift]

until we go into a recession soon ™️

[odd sand]

Fucking a. Reddit updated their site and now it won't render if you're running tracking blockers

If Ghostery is running they basically don't load

[dull garnet]

is shue talking about spending money

who hijacked shue's account

[paper tusk]

reddit works for me but i use ublock only

[sly elk]

aside from the top 3 things, nothing in there is more than like 15 years old

[dull garnet]

my guy displaying e-waste in a cabinet

[jaunty light]

retro: things that are about your age

[sly walrus]

there are apple towers in there, and those are basically ancient history

[paper tusk]

still late/end ppc era mac

the pizza box mac in my closet would like a word with them

with all its 66mhz of powah

[sly elk]

those are mac pros

G5s only have 1 optical bay

[jaunty light]

idk when I think retro games I think 70s-80s

90s-2000s? naw

[dull garnet]

It's relative

You're ancient

[jaunty light]

[sly elk]

XD

[bitter girder]

i have my phone on my keyboard and it keeps pressing down the 0 key help

0

[warm lagoon]

use wedge

[umbral moss]

more like 1%, and even that is mostly luck 😔

[modest moss]

to be fair I was talking about taking on debt, and I don't think I will lol

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-arc-gpus-lose-up-to-15-performance-in-3dmark-timespy-test-with-advanced-performance-optimizations-disabled

[umbral moss]

poggin

at least it's closer to what you'll actually get in real applications now

which is to say, absolute dogshit

[hard drift]

it's atleast better than the 1050ti performance for 30 dollars more than 1050ti msrp bullshit nvidia did

i wonder when they'll start doing 2660 and crap to blow intel out of the water

[deep sapphire]

Bidori reminds me of that kid (AMD) who got bullied so much when a new player (Intel) came into the picture they just laid into them

[hard drift]

no no no, they deserve it for "Releasing" it

[umbral moss]

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2024-hyundai-ioniq-6-electric-first-look-review/

[hard drift]

but you get raytracing which is more to say than nvidia with their 1600 line

[umbral moss]

[hard drift]

and according to nvidia cards without raytracing are bad or something along those lines

[umbral moss]

I can get raytracing on my 10 series GPU too and it will perform better

[hard drift]

not true about the perform better but yeah

10 series eats shit when they try to raytrace

arc atleast has stuff to handle it

[umbral moss]

unless intel has dedicated compute units I don't believe they can actually do raytracing at parity with the 30 series

[hard drift]

they do

[umbral moss]

1:1 raytracing at 10 fps, let's go

[hard drift]

this is the a380 doing raytracing for benchmarks

and given a380 is pretty low on sku, it can only get better right? 😅

[tawdry narwhal]

I'm having an issue w/ my second monitor
the screen keeps going black
I don't think it's a normal connection issue because the screen immediately turns back on if I do something on that monitor, ie typing or even just wiggling the mouse
but I can't find any relevant settings that may be affecting it
I've also tried factory resetting the monitor and resinstalling the drivers
both monitors have the same aspect ratio, and as far as I can tell none of the ports or cables are damaged

[umbral moss]

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2023-cadillac-ct4-v-blackwing-track-edition-first-look-review/

why couldn't chevy make this as an impala

[dull garnet]

damnnn that's within the margin of error!

[hard drift]

Yeah lol

But that’s with/without the boost BS

[hard drift]

I want to see the higher skus and how they perform for price to performance

[umbral moss]

that is the highest sku

https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/30/23190299/gm-hummer-ev-production-numbers-12-vehicles-a-day

[kindred brook]

whats the diff between

gold and red drives

and NAs drives can be used in regular systems right

[umbral moss]

yeah

gold is enterprise rated, so they have a much longer warranty period

[kindred brook]

if they are the same price

get the gold over red?

[umbral moss]

like RE0 drives have like, a 10 year warranty

and some shit like 10 million hours MTBF

[dull garnet]

not getting your data back if they die tho

[umbral moss]

I mean, yeah

all that porn when a drive head crashes

[dull garnet]

😳

[kindred brook]

LOl

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/tann-hauser-blade-runner-gif-8846138

[kindred brook]

ok so like

my friend is thinking between these two

for photos

[dull garnet]

but yeah if you have a $400 drive

[kindred brook]

and videos

of baby stuff

[dull garnet]

having a warranty is probably a good thing

[umbral moss]

the enterprise drive will last a long-ass time

although the consumer one will too, the days of sudden head crashing are pretty much over

HDDs don't just mysteriously shit the bed in the middle of the night anymore

[dull garnet]

well...

[umbral moss]

I mean, it used to be bad in the bad old days

when you could buy a maxtor and there was a 30% chance the drive would just up and fuck itself within a month

or the godawful IBM deathstars

HDDs don't just die anymore, it's rare as shit to receive a DOA and even rarer to have a drive just eat shit under normal consumer use

[kindred brook]

oof

[dull garnet]

that isn't correct though

lol

my friend had his toshiba 3TB die in a matter of months

and toshiba are supposed to be decent

[umbral moss]

didn't toshiba sell their HDD group to HGST?

anything associated with HGST is still garbo as far as I know

seagate is good as long as you don't get got with the broken firmware that bricked some of their micros

[dull garnet]

i never had problems with seagate or maxtor but yeah, i got a few wd reds because the internet said they were good

[umbral moss]

seagate had a problem with barracudas a few years back

bad firmware that caused the micro to just go fuck goons and stop functioning after a few months

gigabyte

nah, it's doomed

[graceful pine]

I had to replace an old hdd after like a year and a half

The drive just got super fragmented

Running defrags just wouldn’t fix it

Replaced with an SSD though anyway

[deep sapphire]

Because nobody bought Chevy cars lol

The last Imapala was a pretty decent car but nobody cared

[umbral moss]

why would they? the impala was a grocery getter and had no balls unless you bought the SS

[deep sapphire]

The impala SS was a niche car on a dying platform in the 90s nobody bought that shit lmao

That was basically a send off car

“RWD cars are dying what can we make on the caprice chassis”

“Throw a corvette engine in it”

[umbral moss]

pretty much how any SS badged chevy is made lmao

[deep sapphire]

Lutz was obsessed with speed and driving, he mandated every car they made had an SS trim which while cool, was really stupid when GM was broke

HHR SS BABY

[umbral moss]

lutz just wanted a dodge viper that wasn't a hangar queen

[deep sapphire]

Remember the intimidator SS

MONTE CARLO INTIMIDATOR SS DO IT FOR DALE

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/differenthistory/images/9/94/2002-Monte-Carlo-SS-Dale-Earnhardt-Edition-dale-earnhardt-sr-32944817-500-343.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170821214224

[umbral moss]

jesus, I worked with a guy who drove a monte like that

[bitter girder]

car charger

[umbral moss]

a knife storage port

[sly elk]

I would love to run cadillac

I'd use all the old names >>

and get fired gloriously for making a car that lives up to those old names

[umbral moss]

bring back saturn you cowards

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scream-scary-memes-gif-19596874

[sly elk]

definitely Eldorado, Seville, Fleetwood

and i'd get rid of the angry faces

and that's how i'd ruin the company 😄

The funny thing is Saturn wouldn't be a bad brand for stuff like the volt/bolt

[umbral moss]

yeah

saturn is pretty close to a forgotten brand at this point so they could resurrect it as their FUTURE TECH brand

[sly elk]

one thing I wonder about

they're experimenting with bringing back hummer now

they could... just do the same with saturn/pontiac

[umbral moss]

but nah, gonna leave it dead forever in the "things GM mismanaged into the ground" vault

pontiac was always doomed to be a me-too brand since buick still exists

[sly elk]

like idk why car brands need to have a full line of models

it promotes sad stuff like the corporate face

ugh I hate it when car brands do that

"let's facelift all our cars to look like that other one!"

-puts rounded front clip on a boxy car-

IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT!

i keep accidentally clicking that button in outlook

looks like ass on the grey theme

(which also looks like ass)

the grey theme looks like a bad attempt at copying outlook 97

[modest moss]

@hard drift grandpa you around?

[hard drift]

What?

[modest moss]

what are your thoughts on something like https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/kGyRzf with my existing GTX 1080 thrown in

[hard drift]

Go x3d or 5900x since 5800x is normally hot vs others

[modest moss]

see, I value your opinion, your wise old man opinion

[hard drift]

And make sure h510 is flow

510 is garbage otherwise

Otherwise it’s good

[modest moss]

5900x is £100 more, not keen

the 12th gen bang for buck cpu is 12400f, right?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/WHYtQ6

[hard drift]

Yeah although no igpu if you care

[modest moss]

hmm

[hard drift]

But yeah that’s better

[fair parcel]

5950

[modest moss]

£627.83, throw in GTX 1080 for now

I wonder how much better it'd really perform than this though

[hard drift]

5950 is trash compared to 5900 or x3d

[fair parcel]

I have been window shopping a 3080ti for a min

[hard drift]

At lower resolutions like 1080p a lot better

[fair parcel]

5950x is the king me thought

[modest moss]

I nearly bought an open box 6800h/3070ti laptop for £1250, but idk man

[fair parcel]

well close to the i9-12900k at least

[hard drift]

Not even close unless you’re talking multithreaded

[fair parcel]

what are you saying to me

[hard drift]

The desktop would beat it bad unless talking energy

[fair parcel]

i9-12900k is the best or am I misreading

[hard drift]

5800x3d for price otherwise ks pretty much

[modest moss]

depends what you're doing

[fair parcel]

hmm

[modest moss]

oh duh

don't buy anything today shue

amazon prime day in a few days

they might have a bargain

[fair parcel]

new egg has a big sale

not sure if they ship to you or not

[hard drift]

100% true and newegg if you have it

[modest moss]

newegg is barely a thing here

[fair parcel]

bummer

they got a pretty big sale going or starting right now

stuff seems to be in stock ish now at least mostly

[modest moss]

newegg uk laptops at least are much more expensive by the look of it

@hard drift does the regular 12400 perform the same as the 12400f, just also has ipgpu for £18?

[hard drift]

About the same yeah

[late basalt]

@deep sapphire https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/vp2syn/im_an_advisor_at_a_toyota_dealer_2010_tundra/

[deep sapphire]

I believe it

Those V8s are crazy reliable

[deep sapphire]

https://reddit.com/r/GMT400/comments/vpe8uf/before_and_after_shots_of_my_restoration_project/

[hard drift]

not bad but i don't like the color personally 😭

[sly elk]

I like how they have hagerty insurance on it lol

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-fsr-2-0-mod-is-now-available-in-dying-light-2 modders doing gamers good 🙏

[deep sapphire]

Probably plans to do abunch of performance work to it

[sly elk]

aye

[jaunty light]

@deep sapphire we know those trash chevies be needing it

[deep sapphire]

Shut

[jaunty light]

[deep sapphire]

Dumb emote

[jaunty light]

[deep sapphire]

[jaunty light]

[floral cliff]

is world transfer currently down?

[paper tusk]

home server transfer yes is down until after 6.18/dc visit

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/evga-rtx-3090-ti-kingpin-goes-on-sale-for-2500-usd-comes-with-free-1600w-psu there it is…

[modest moss]

mental

honestly think there should be limits on power usage for entertainment in today's world

[fair parcel]

1600w

[potent arrow]

I mean it's kingpin, those are expected to be high watt

[modest moss]

you're high watt

[potent arrow]

Just waiting on tech to innovate at this point, we are pretty much at the breaking point

[modest moss]

yeah some smart nerd needs to figure out clean, safe, unlimited power asap

[potent arrow]

:/ I mean like core efficiency

Power supplies havnt changed ever, not much room for improvement besides going 12VO or w/e

Plus now there are now massive talks on power spikes and mitigating it

[hard drift]

High watt yea but not insane watt like that… but I guess it shows how bad this gen was for efficiency and such

[potent arrow]

P. Much

Next gen is going to be absurd

[hard drift]

Pcie 5.0 atx3.0 will help with that luckily

That kingpin card has it

[hard drift]

I really hope not

[potent arrow]

It will be

[hard drift]

I know

[potent arrow]

Garanteed

We are cramming so much onto a small die

[hard drift]

100% for nvidia, hoping not so much for amd

Nvidia was already going down the path with 3090ti 😔

[potent arrow]

Like, I'm not going to even stock 600w PSUs anymore

Straight up 750-1000w

[hard drift]

Yeah, unless apus become that good

[potent arrow]

Lol.

[hard drift]

I know they’ll become atleast way better than now

[dull garnet]

Excellent powers of deduction

"new apus offer 20% performance uptick for 300% power draw of previous generation"

[hard drift]

Nah I don’t think so

I highly doubt we’ll see apus that power hungry

[modest moss]

damn, gpus really did drop some

3080ti for £835.99

[potent arrow]

We will see based on am5 gen CPUs really

[hard drift]

Gpus have absolutely plummeted

[modest moss]

I mean, I can't afford to buy or run it, but that's so much cheaper than a few months ago

[hard drift]

Yeah

[potent arrow]

Can't afford shit fere still

A 2070 is still 1600$

[hard drift]

Wtf

[potent arrow]

In store stock sufferin

[hard drift]

Ah rip

[potent arrow]

[dull garnet]

Nvidia store uk had a bunch of cards at MSRP yesterday

Not a 3080 though

[modest moss]

that's what newegg uk looks like, comedy

[potent arrow]

There's a fucking weird ass hole

[modest moss]

that's actually tempting

stick that in with the 12400f partpicker yesterday, that's be under 1200

[hard drift]

That’s pretty good tbh

[bitter girder]

damn

[deep sapphire]

I’m waiting for 4000 series

[potent arrow]

@deep sapphire Ikea chair threads suck and I hate their hex wrenches so I took out my mini ugga dugga

[deep sapphire]

https://reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/vpf8x5/cs_coolant_line_broke_used_qt_hotdog_to_stop_leak/

[hard drift]

You mean 2000w gpus?

[deep sapphire]

DEWALT!?

[hard drift]

You’re lucky i lost the photo

[deep sapphire]

Good

[potent arrow]

At my parents home, they are all DeWalt shikls

[hard drift]

I’ll go grab it again smh

[potent arrow]

I ain't carrying my shit over

[deep sapphire]

NO DEWALT ON MY CART

[deep sapphire]

NO DEWALT

[deep sapphire]

DELETE THIS

[potent arrow]

Dwalt

[deep sapphire]

I don’t need this

I’m leaving!

[hard drift]

Lol

Not my fault you incriminate yourself

[potent arrow]

Chair finished

Food time

[hard drift]

Let’s see the chair

[royal forge]

Sanpellegrino is thr sparkling drinks brand yes?

[royal forge]

Im guessin it taste like.. fizzy lemonade?

[deep sapphire]

She lied about it being done because the DeWalt impact driver shitty batteries don’t work right

[potent arrow]

Jokes on you Hank, these don't get used so they don't die

[deep sapphire]

DeWalt batteries be like “how much juice do I got left… wai- wtf I press the button and it briefly blinks the battery life!?”

[hard drift]

Shush dewalt simp

[fair parcel]

nuclear powered gaming PC

[hard drift]

@potent arrow hank called canada a 3rd world country 😭

[potent arrow]

it is

[hard drift]

😭

Was supposed to bully hank

@deep sapphire you win this round dewalt simp

[deep sapphire]

LMAO

[sly elk]

what's the difference between a drill from harbor freight and a drill from dewalt

[sly walrus]

none

tools is tools

[deep sapphire]

They both suck

[modest moss]

isn't harbor freight the place with top tier warranty?

[humble eagle]

Hey guys my brother and i are both having the same issues trying to resub right now. We're both getting this weird error that says this:

A Steam account linked to a Square Enix account is required to use this function.
Please launch the FINAL FANTASY XIV game client via Steam to link your Steam account to a Square Enix account.