technology-discussion

[potent arrow]

I can normally slap together a good build with that

[odd sand]

Bump up I mean if you are looking at specific parts and coming up like $50-100 short for say, 8 core vs 6 core or buying a 1660 super instead of a 3060 or something. That sort of thing

AMD is generous with supporting sockets, but even they can only work so many miracles that close to the DDR4 transition

[umbral moss]

too generous, honestly

[potent arrow]

I mean they have an fx, anything is better

[umbral moss]

the thing keeping me away from AM5 is the fact AM4 has lasted 12 years

[dusty viper]

Hmm so i thought up a build

[potent arrow]

Fx is only good for cooking toast these days

[odd sand]

$600 is plenty for a decent CPU/mobo/ram combo. Especially if you go with the X470 boards from before covid made the current gen stuff overpriced

[umbral moss]

AM sockets last so long even intel's HEDT boards look fast moving

😔

[umbral moss]

you can cook eggs with it too

[odd sand]

The fact a Z690 board is like $100 more than a Z590 is crazy

[dusty viper]

CPU: I5-12400F, Motherboard: ASROCK B660M; RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3200

[odd sand]

The Z590 Pro-A or w/e was like $125 and the same Pro-A for Z690 was $210-220

[hard drift]

am4 is still going to be getting new stuff even with am5 they said so we might see lower end x3d or something but doubtful

[dusty viper]

Costs about 325 euros

[umbral moss]

🅱️ls

let AM4 die

it's tired

[odd sand]

12400F is that the hex-core?

[dusty viper]

What do you guys think? Is that a good upgrade?

[dusty viper]

It's 6 cores

[hard drift]

i mean am4 is more than enough for budget oriented builds going for b350 and using high end or such

[hard drift]

1000x better than what you have now

100%

bulldozer was literally doa

[odd sand]

12400 has hyperthreading so thats good. Should be fine.

[hard drift]

it is what drove amd to near bankruptcy

[umbral moss]

I should have plowed all my money into AMD when it was $2 a share 😔

[odd sand]

Otherwise the step up from that would be the 12600KF

[umbral moss]

60x gains

[hard drift]

you and me both lol

[odd sand]

There was no way to know unless you followed them closely after they were already in the dump for like 8 years

[umbral moss]

oh, I knew

AMD couldn't go under because intel would get clapped with an anti-trust suit

so they'd have to keep AMD alive somehow, including direct cash injection

so it's a guaranteed bet

[odd sand]

I knew the couldn't go under, but I didn't expect them to make a hit product anytime soon is all

[umbral moss]

oh nah, it was pretty clear they learned their lesson from bulldozer

[odd sand]

Bc they had 2 architectures in a row flop, didn't they?

[umbral moss]

the unified FMU is what fucked them up

[odd sand]

Sledgehammer and Bulldozer

[umbral moss]

sledgehammer was opteron, wasn't it?

piledriver and bulldozer were the two cursed ones

[dusty viper]

Is there such a thing such as a 28GB ram?

[umbral moss]

piledriver didn't even get a large distribution before AMD strangled it and released the zen series

[odd sand]

16/32 are the standard. You could have 24 if you went 8/8/4/4 but most ppl dont

[dusty viper]

Ok so i recalculated and the build cost would be 436 euros

[umbral moss]

you really wouldn't want to do that anyway

since the interleaving only works on same-size pools

[odd sand]

If you dont have an ssd, I would try getting a 500gb or 1tb of those as well. That helps performance a lot

[hard drift]

technically you could but you're getting into weird configs

[umbral moss]

nvme SSD is 🙏

[umbral moss]

weird configs that have huge performance penalties

[odd sand]

You can pick up a 500gb nvme ssd for like $60 now or something

[umbral moss]

the mismatched pool sizes is why nvidia had to take the L with that memory quotient thing in the, uh, 970?

[odd sand]

Although 1TB is probably a bit more ideal

[umbral moss]

you can get a WS blue nvme 1TB for pretty cheap too

you don't need the WD black or whatever samsung's equivalent is

it's still a huge upgrade over your click-clack spinning platters

[odd sand]

The FX processors were just notoriously bad. I remember the WoW benchmarks back then (very CPU bound game) had Intel ahead of AMD by a whoppin 40% in fps

[umbral moss]

poggin

[odd sand]

Sabrent makes decent ones too

[jaunty light]

Fx6300

[odd sand]

Which was always funny hearing AMD fanboys back then being like BUT 8 CORES!

[dusty viper]

As a someone who played WOW for like 5 years, this was really painful

[odd sand]

And I would bc nothing used them yet. You needed good single-core perf heh

[jaunty light]

I was amused because I held onto a q6600 until the 4000 gen

The fx series waant even an upgrade

[odd sand]

That got a little long in the tooth. I went from a Q9550 (basically same gen as Q6600) to a 3770K and it was already performing quite poorly at that point

[umbral moss]

I had a Q6600 that ran at 4GHz and took a 3 bin memory OC

[jaunty light]

Ya once I coulsnt run certain games i upgraded

[umbral moss]

based Q6600

the next two intel chips I got were basically loose dumps plonked directly in the toilet

barely any OC headroom and very picky about memory settings

[odd sand]

Modern games now using multi-threading is a thing of beauty though. Being in Satisfactory, Dyson Sphere, etc. and seeing helper threads on all cores humming along is neat

[jaunty light]

I think i only got 3.6 out of mine

[umbral moss]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1027219539/ffxiv-keycap-set-eorzean-alphabet

although sarah already got ceramic keycaps

[potent arrow]

I got ceramic

Plus that looks hell to type on

[modest moss]

E8400 > Q6600 don't @ me

[umbral moss]

they're PBT, isn't that like, the best

[modest moss]

for gaming at the time anyway

basically no game took advantage of the extra cores back then

[potent arrow]

No i mean the legends

I feel like when Im high Ill get confused

[umbral moss]

lol

you look at the keys to type?

https://tenor.com/view/waynes-world-gif-9423140

[potent arrow]

when Im high?

yes

very much so LMFAO

[modest moss]

just don't be high

[umbral moss]

same

[jaunty light]

Shue always with the dogwater takes

[modest moss]

single core performance was much higher

and games at the time cared much more about that

Q6600 had lower fsb, also 65nm vs 45nm

Q6600 was great, but E8400 was the champ

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/wrong-donald-trump-gif-11280989

[modest moss]

No, I'm actually right about this

[umbral moss]

the Q6600's real value was in how hard you could crank it before it died

[modest moss]

An overclocked E8400 was absolutely better for most games at the time

[umbral moss]

I blew up a board before I killed the Q6600

[modest moss]

Q6600 was a better all round cpu if you were doing other things

but pure gaming it was E8400

[odd sand]

For that year I guess that's fair. Bc I know they made a quad core that was like 3.06ghz or 3.18ghz or something but that was maybe fall of 08 or early 09

[sly elk]

during the core days I had a plastic macbook lol

some kinda c2d bullshit i can't remember. it had a gma 950. that I remember because it was crap.

[modest moss]

I want to say it wasn't until Q9650 or something that Q6600 tailed off

[bitter girder]

boomer juice

[modest moss]

ugh who invited lewis back

[bitter girder]

https://tenor.com/view/saul-goodman-meme-speech-bubble-saul-goodman-gif-25296783

[deep sapphire]

shue is correct

the Q6600 was a budget C2Q

the E8400 was a high end C2D

[modest moss]

[deep sapphire]

and he is right, they had great OC potential just because of the FSB

it was well known that people could get over 1GHz out of them

which is pretty fuckin insane when the multiplier was locked lol

[modest moss]

I had mine at 4.5ghz or something stupid

[deep sapphire]

I'd argue the C2Q was kind of a meme, it wasnt bad but quad cores werent really necessary at the time, the first gen i7 was a much better processor

[sly elk]

i like how 5ghz is a magic number for cpus

[deep sapphire]

the 920 was a fantastic budget offering

[deep sapphire]

my sister's fiance at the time had one and yeah I think he had it around 4.5 as well haha

[dull garnet]

tfw your Q6600's stepping was B3 instead of G0

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cry-crying-tears-broken-gif-15062040

[deep sapphire]

tfw you bought the AMD kool-aid and bought a first gen Phenom

never again bros

[dull garnet]

Phenomenally bad purchase

[deep sapphire]

Phenom 64 was so bad

like it wasnt FX bad

but it was pretty fuckin bad

tons of bugs, 65nm when intel was well ahead on 45nm and soon 32nm

overclocked like shit

[dull garnet]

I got a free 1GHz out of my E4400

[deep sapphire]

I only got like 200 MHz out of my 9950

base clock was 2.5 GHz

lelelelelel

[dull garnet]

With a .5 voltage bump I think. Could do 2.8GHz stock

Didn't try pushing it further. Some of those Pentium chips you could get double the clock speed from

[deep sapphire]

the golden years

C2D was legendary

[dull garnet]

E2140/2160/2180 iirc

[deep sapphire]

https://i.imgur.com/ga7gXRO.png

god first gen phenom was bad

and AMD kept trying to cope

B-BUT LOOK AT OUR FSB

INTEL IS ONLY 800 MHZ OURS IS 2.2 GHZ

im convinced hector ruiz killed AMD during that period

they way overpaid for ATI, the whole global foundry thing never amounted to anything, they lost a ton of RnD

[bitter girder]

ugh computer talk

🙄

[dull garnet]

You're right

Let us discuss the merits of iOS

[sly elk]

windows 8 style maximized everything 1-thing-at-a-time computing

https://tenor.com/view/computer-whats-a-computer-tablet-gif-11564169

[bitter girder]

Today microsoft announces new feature that is in a menu in a menu in a menu in a menu in a menu in a menu in a menu

in a menu

[jaunty light]

Its so simple just call the api that changes every 5 minutes

Get-FuckingMenu [ThisBullshit.Assembly.UI]::Metro@{expression={[int]$_}}.name | Why-Microsoft

Shh microsoft employee

[odd sand]

My friend had a lunch n learn trying to teach the rest of the dept how to use Observables properly.

I think maybe a third of them got it. Somewhat.

One dev was having observables make observables make observables and was therefore subscribed to dozens of them at once or more and wondered why things were running poorly...

[jaunty light]

But it's PARALLELIZED!!

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/ddr5-memory-drops-below-e5-per-gigabyte-20-cheaper-in-a-month

[sick edge]

HAH! What are comments?

I should just be able to scan how it works.

[sick edge]

heh.. children don't exist...

[odd sand]

Oh I'm sorry he was talking about Typescript observables with Angular

Friend brought his steam deck over but it wont connect to my TV via the dock for some reason

[royal forge]

I think jts just odd that LTT wpuld collab with this YT-er who was dishonest and faked shit but would drop sponsors cause they feel said company was unethical

But i get it

Exposur etc etc

Ice u callin me or?

[modest moss]

cheating in a speedrun in a video game is really not the same as an unethical company

[odd sand]

I also don't agree but it's kinda minor on Linus part at least so 🤷‍♀️

[royal forge]

What update

Laptop?

It got sent out

No word

Despite.. what, 2 days already

Even tho we are.. what, 500km away only?

[royal forge]

I feel it demonstrates a lack of ethical consideration

[modest moss]

nonsense

[royal forge]

But then again, in my line of work, this kinda shit makes you worried

Das all

So I'm biased

And its not just cheating but doubling down, being insincere

[modest moss]

the guy cheated at minecraft, he didn't fuck over his employees or customers

[royal forge]

Again, I'm not tryin to compare em to say they're the same

[umbral moss]

that's because fucking over your employees and cheating your customers is a time-honored tradition

[royal forge]

Im just sayin that i'd personally not work with said person

[umbral moss]

cheating on stream is unforgivable because there are rules

[modest moss]

true, there was probably more outrage over dream's speedrun than gamersnexus and newegg

[royal forge]

@deep sapphire heard that Hank? We goin on a roadtrip

Newegg was a slow decline as i understand iy

It*

Bought by a ?chinese company?

And ran into the ground

[umbral moss]

yeah, they went public and got majority acquired by some chinese tech outlet

which immediately drove the site into a dumpster because they created an amazon clone of dickery

[royal forge]

Also, I AM travellin down soon, but why waste my time ya know

[sly elk]

I usually point out that newegg wasn't ever all that amazing

it was one of a handful of computer parts stores headquartered in City of Industry, CA that had picky RMA policies 😄

[royal forge]

Newegg BRIEFLY shipped to SEA

[modest moss]

Ice did you work on the original XI windower?

[umbral moss]

I was there in the old times, when newegg had a liberal return policy and people would play roulette with 9700 pros hoping they'd unlock into 9800 pros

[modest moss]

trying to remember the guy who made it first, him and his gf

[umbral moss]

since ATI had unwisely just locked the extra bit of the die with firmware

[modest moss]

he used to hang in the BG IRC, hacked a bunch of people too

[umbral moss]

best buy also changed their return policy because of that

turns out getting 15 million returned GPUs with fucked up firmware and "it broked, sorries" leads to corporate changing their policy

[royal forge]

Wrong Shue?

[umbral moss]

🤔

aikar took over from the original guy

was azaril the first?

I thought azaril took over for aikar when aikar decided to become a hard minecraft shill

[modest moss]

I don't think that's who I'm thinking of tbh

[umbral moss]

gonna be rich and famous turning ffochat into a minecraft streaming server

[modest moss]

I think I might be thinking of Taj?

nice guy, shady af

would laugh if that was you

[umbral moss]

didn't he get caught doing actual shady stuff and was kicked out of windower project

and then he tried to make his own fork of windower for a while because he was the Real Developer or whatever

[modest moss]

Taj and his gf whose name I can't remember got into stealing accounts and RMTing stuff from what I remember

fuck, Eanae would remember but she's not online so I won't ping her

[umbral moss]

I remember getting banned from the gamerescape irc channel because the guy who ran it just hated me

even wrote "I just never liked you" in the ban message

[modest moss]

relatable

Ice outing himself as botting scum

but you definitely used it

[deep sapphire]

shue I hope you have space on your phone

shits like 20GB

LOL

app store doesnt allow apps larger than 4GB, so I looked at the in game downloads required

like 8 2GB files

[modest moss]

I installed it on pc

[sly elk]

then you have a 64gb model iphone

[hard drift]

What’re you installing for 20gb???

[modest moss]

24GB on my pc

diablo immortal

[hard drift]

Oh yeah that’s out

I should try it

[modest moss]

nah 20gb is Hank's pixiv cache

[hard drift]

Wouldn’t doubt it

[royal forge]

:O

Wazzat

[modest moss]

the fuck is that?

[royal forge]

China made?

[modest moss]

I don't install dumb shit

[royal forge]

Bah

[modest moss]

bruh this pc is obsolete already, I'm not installing virtual girl apps

[royal forge]

I am legit confused as to why I think that Genshin and Tencent introduce spyware in their programs/games

[modest moss]

because everyone assumes the worst about China

like yeah they do do shady shit, so people assume it's in everything

[deep sapphire]

yeah china is a massive country, just like the US. there are good and bad with any large country

at the end of the day, 99 percent of a country is average joes just trying to make it by

[deep sapphire]

LMAO

virtual girl apps

[hard drift]

You use them daily

[umbral moss]

it's because china's notorious for making spyware mandatory on anything deployed inside china and there's little indication that the export stuff isn't similarly equipped

[modest moss]

I like to assume it'd have been found by nerds in the popular things like fortnite, genshin, etc

[umbral moss]

fortnite

not many 12 year olds looking in the source code for spyware

genshin

weebs want waifus, don't care how they get em

[modest moss]

yeah only 12 year olds play fortnite

couldn't be me

[sly elk]

like genshin

[hard drift]

I mean there was the whole thing with epic games being suspicious with their launcher a while ago

[sly elk]

I remember this being a bit of a stink with blade and soul lol

[umbral moss]

the launcher demanding escalated privileges that it really didn't need at all?

[sly elk]

but when you install MURRICA games you usually also install a rootkit that makes sure you're not cheating

[umbral moss]

and scanning your entire PC without your consent, for nebulous "reasons"

[sly elk]

but then it's ok cuz murica

[umbral moss]

that's typical for anti-cheat though 😔

any ring 0 anti-cheat needs to live below the program layer so it's insanely invasive by design

[sly elk]

I suppose the problem here is they could've just made a deal to use an already existing one

[modest moss]

I think partly I just don't give a fuck if some guy in Beijing knows I play video games and tweet about football

[sly elk]

yea

[modest moss]

like we already know our own governments are spying on us

[sly elk]

i don't deal with work things on my personal computer

[modest moss]

they know all your work things anyway

[sly elk]

that's some nice data you've got there

the gov knows all my work things

tbh

[deep sapphire]

privacy is important but at this point in time people pay for the bullshit they read online with it and you arent going to change it

[sly elk]

they were actually panicking that they didn't

[modest moss]

it's sad to say, but anyone who thinks we're fighting a war for our privacy is deluded

we capitulated and lost it years ago

[umbral moss]

b-but free stuff

[modest moss]

free stuff good

[umbral moss]

privacy died when the internet became a thing, because you leave so much fucking data everywhere you go

it used to be inordinately difficult to track someone by the info they left behind

now you can just be like "alexa, tell me what my ex ate for breakfast"

[sly elk]

i wouldn't be that defeatist about it

[royal forge]

A BIG BAG OF DICKS

[sly elk]

the problem right now is up until now, yea you haven't had much privacy, but usually that was FOR ONE FIRM

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/clerks-37dicks-proud-gif-6165523

[sly elk]

but now there's so much data sharing

like the companies that make apps that use bluetooth to snoop and know where you are and what you like looking at in the store sell that info

then a car dealer can find out for some $$ if you like visiting their competitor

[deep sapphire]

in a row?

lmao classic scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e_XQ86-Ni4

favorite part of the whole movie

hahahahaha

I dont appreciate your ruse ma'am

hahahahahaaha

[sly elk]

Inwin chassis 💙

https://www.in-win.com/en/gaming-chassis/z-tower

[royal forge]

IF i do a new build

DDR5?

Or DDR4 good enough

For RAM btw

I thought ddr4 was good enough

But i heard ddr 5 is stabilising, price wise

And ya know... futureeee

https://tenor.com/view/future-squidward-spongebob-gif-4767609

[late basalt]

Go off what your cpu of choice supports

[deep sapphire]

With how long PCs last, DDR4 is more than fast enough for the foreseeable future

If anything, your buying decision should be do you need a PC now or not

It’s nice to see GPUs are stabilizing, hopefully with the RTX 4000 series coming soon they will be obtainable

[umbral moss]

wouldn't bet on it

apparently rule 4 shit is interfering with noble gas supply in order to extract some concessions

specifically to target semiconductor manufacturing

[royal forge]

When do you not need the best of the best

[deep sapphire]

thats the trap with technology lmao

there will ALWAYS be something better

[royal forge]

KNOWING my luck

When i pick a specific GPU

The day it arrives

It will be revealed it's somehow gimpwr

Gimped*

Im still salty bout the 970

[umbral moss]

poggin

[potent arrow]

Tub

[royal forge]

But thats a desk pad no

[modest moss]

Anime bath mat

[royal forge]

I'd go for one tbh, but sweaty palms so stinky mats

[potent arrow]

Custom mouse pad

I just wash it once a month

[modest moss]

Sarah probably spilled deadly chemicals on it

[potent arrow]

Nah just beer

[modest moss]

Pretty tame for you

[wintry drift]

once a month
that's some very sweaty computing activities

[royal forge]

Im debatin one of em fancy schmany leather ones

Faux leather since im a cheapass

[wintry drift]

why

faux leather is like the worst of both worlds

[royal forge]

Well, i'd try anything but the rubber steelseries one i got, ended up stuck like melted to my table

[wintry drift]

that's some warm weather you got

[sly elk]

i wonder what happens if you throw the mouse mat in the washer

i'd just toss it in with my laundry lol

my table is dusty atm and needs a wiping

wait what

i love their airpods case but

it appears to be tied to a pair of regular headphones lmao

for sake of comparison

i guess i should get a cutesy case for my airpods tooooooo

i wanted to show my candles so there 😄

[agile roost]

Nice elgato

[sly elk]

mm bought it after the quadcast started acting weird with my work mac

hyperx wanted a video of it not working right and itr works fine on my windows machine... and even my other macs lmao

just not that particular one

well, works mostly fine** but I coul;dn't get a video of it not working with the windows machine, so no help really

the elgato has the same kinda capacitive touch mute button on top that I love, but the mic volume & muting are shared with the OS... so the OS (and applications) can unmute the mic at will. I don't like that... but I do like that you can control the headphone jack output volume from the dial too

[deep sapphire]

nice, you fell for the reddit bait I see

Japan has one of the worst network infrastructures in the world

like not even joking

[sly elk]

idk

I consider anything that isn't fiber-to-the-premises garbage

in the US probably like 90% of households get cable internet over coax with DSL as a second option

the other 10% only have DSL as an option

[deep sapphire]

no I mean like

ISPs struggle to even keep the shit running

lmao

[odd sand]

Was the 970 really that bad? From what I heard it was like a 30% boost from the 770 that only came out like a year before

[deep sapphire]

it wasnt too bad but they did that bait and switch with the 4GB vram

[royal forge]

Yep

And that was when.. was it MHW?

That used 4GB VRAM

And DA:I

I couldnt play it because once i passed 3.5GB

Performance shat itself

[odd sand]

Bc I had bought a 770 and then the 970 came out so quickly and was a lot better so I was kinda miffed about that

[royal forge]

I mean

That too

For others

But ye.. i was kickin myself for not gettin 980

[lost python]

yooo

but 200€

[royal forge]

Just get the Gundam case Rob

[potent arrow]

Ngl

That case design to me is very underwhelming

Because its just a wrap

Like it feels like a dbrand paste or something

[bitter girder]

true true

[royal forge]

Will it load...

No.. no it wont

https://www.asus.com/microsite/ASUS-X-GUNDAM/my/

[lost python]

i wish it wasnt fucking sold out everywhere

and ebay has it for like 500

[bitter girder]

I like the case and gpu design

[royal forge]

https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-00GU-000A7

LOOK AT THIS

MY GOD

[bitter girder]

Apart from that the others are just Meh

[royal forge]

FFS NEWEGG

[lost python]

woah

[royal forge]

This.. VERY sexy

They have a custom zaku cpu cooler

Theres a Gundam Unicorn ver

Fuck.. that looks very sexy

https://youtu.be/ryevRqiKXRo

@lost python

https://www.dealmoon.com/en/689-unicorn-gundam-uc-limited-edition-gaming-computer-case/2480768.html

Fuck. Those look so fucking sexy

https://youtu.be/tes6rsWfHd4

I wonder what happened to this

If i could mod pc cases..

https://tenor.com/view/mobile-suit-gundam-unicorn-gundam-unicorn-destroy-mode-transform-gif-6164724

Imagine it just unfolding in front of you

[sly elk]

lol

newegg does have stock of the gundam cases

much to my surprise

they're $399 though, when a normal helios would cost $299

both amazon and newegg have the motherboards

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=asus+gundam&N=4841 8000&Order=1

they have the red case, the silver case, the router, motherboard, mouse

[royal forge]

https://youtube.com/shorts/9Ra1A7Kz9Ko?feature=share

But imagine this capability on ur pc case

[sly elk]

another thing I'll metnion

the evga 1000 g6 is on sale for 139 I think

so is the asus white strix 850w

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Supernova-Modular-Warranty-220-G6-1000-X1/dp/B0997XYF3R
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-heatsinks-Axial-tech-Technology-Certification/dp/B08BX7JXC3

interesting

that is a looot of money though

it's not even a 3090 TI

[bitter girder]

Very... Funky looking

[royal forge]

Is it hard to mod cases?

I was looking at some pc cases

And was wonderin if you can attach movable/retractable panels on it

[paper tusk]

cutting and making holes is easy. making sure the case can support the weight ....

making say the side panel move is i think more an issue of packaging the components (rails, servos or belts)

[royal forge]

https://youtu.be/tDyIkD88Koc

[royal forge]

Ye. I was wonderin how you'd attach rails and motors

Is there any program that lets you sorta plan this?

[outer sand]

how do I know which USB port allocated for my controller/mouse/keyboard in device manager?

what it looks like on mine

I want to turn off the power saving setting thing

[paper tusk]

not sure unless you can cad or mockup in the case

[outer sand]

I ended up using a program called device tree viewer, lol

[jaunty light]

i like the rgb bar, looks better than the one you get on the normal strix

[royal forge]

Awww. I guess it must be quite difficult, considerin the fact that I can't find any "transforming pc cases"

Apart from that single one

[proven oyster]

I wonder

If buying a Laptop is worth it this year or the next

For
And solely specifically
FFXIV 60 FPS 1080p Gaming

Since i assume more people know here about tech news

I recall hearing the next AMD CPU has a new socket?

[hard drift]

Laptops you don’t really worry about that. Desktops will though being am5

Also a lot of laptops can do 60fps at 1080p these days so it won’t matter if you wait or buy now

[proven oyster]

Honestly i mostly am just in the market to upgrade PC, though i honestly unno which path to take

Especially since my budget is as less of 1000 i can

With everything

Current PC is a Ryzen 3 2200G system. Without GPU, of course

[real edge]

2200g is am4

you can get a 5th gen am4 cpu

you can get a 5700g or something if you were satisfied with how the 2200g was

[proven oyster]

I been told my mobo is kinda trash :,D

So i assume i'd have to just upgrade everything

[real edge]

a320?

[proven oyster]

AB350M HDV

[real edge]

I mean, all modern am4 cpus work on old am4 boards lol

[proven oyster]

Its sometimes hard to know because some tech aware folks tend to be a bit "elitist" on part quality

For fair reason yes yes, but very much hard for someone in a non US Region like me (Mexico) to get parts at cheap

[real edge]

[outer sand]

wait laptop performance is more accessible now?

even more than desktop? 🤔

[hard drift]

It’s a lot better than it used to be

[real edge]

check if your motherboard has a bios that supports 5xxx cpus

bios available I mean

idk what assrock does

[hard drift]

You can get by just upgrading cpu otherwise if you really plan to upgrade it all I’d wait for am5 or go intel for 12/13th gen

[outer sand]

ic ty ty

when is this coming? lol

[hard drift]

Q3/4

[proven oyster]

Tis also why im wondering on laptop side of stuff

just
Buy a whole thing and not worry

[outer sand]

my plan is just to wait till the new XIV 1080p spec is updated in 6.3x

and design the new build based on that, so I can play 75 fps 1080p

[hard drift]

It won’t be massive it’ll still be accessible

[real edge]

you're paying for the convenience through extra cost, as well as reduction in screen size

[outer sand]

heh my laptop is purely for work purpose hehe, I'm not bringing my gaming rig anywhere

[hard drift]

Lol

[outer sand]

ic ic

[proven oyster]

I just want sometimes bed gaming. orz

[outer sand]

yeah

I do play games from the couch, using my ps5 controller

[royal forge]

Just gonna buy a threadripper

Better not. Hank will get angy

[hard drift]

I mean not like he could say go buy intels hedt since they’ve long since lost that battle until they try again

[royal forge]

Das true

But buyin a threadripper for gaming is like buying an airline for the peanuts

[hard drift]

But all the games you can play at once

[royal forge]

Imagine

As I do Extreme, I'm also playong starcraft 2 on one monitor and civ vi on another

[hard drift]

And diablo immortal on another

[hard drift]

Sounds fun to me

[potent arrow]

I've done it a lot

I just mock up in solid works

Or be my milkcrate PC and just screw the motherboard right into it

Behehe

[bitter girder]

wholesome

[royal forge]

I was thinkin.. like a gimmick case. Motorised panels. Like gundam unicorn

[modest moss]

you should just keep it simple

[potent arrow]

Have fun doing that without cad

[royal forge]

I was just thinkin of feasibility

Like, slappin extra panels on a case

With like motors etc

[potent arrow]

It's not that easy

[royal forge]

Oh im defo sure its not easy

But i dont know if it's feasible to begin with

Motors to turn panels, ok, but how would mpuntong work

Etc

[potent arrow]

I mean I could probably figure it out....using the right drawer slides and servos

Mounting is the easy part...

[royal forge]

How would you mount

Glue?

Or like, drills?

[potent arrow]

Rivets

[royal forge]

Oo

[potent arrow]

Specifically screw rivets

For standoffs and shit

[royal forge]

Im assuming the original case need not be very expensive?

Since modding would involve quite a fair bit of modification

[potent arrow]

I mean it's whatever lol

You mod whatever fits the parameters

[royal forge]

I see..

[potent arrow]

What's the point of modding a shit sheet metal box that won't hold the weight of anything

Or one that looks like shit to begin with

Start with something that looks close to the final product means less work

[odd sand]

Damn that's a sharp picture for something doing almost Mach-1 in a flyby https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/v4p753/oc_picture_i_took_of_an_f35_doing_the_fast_pass/

Sony A7R-IV

[sly elk]

nice

[umbral moss]

poggin, although it's daylight so you can have basically 1/8000 shutter speed

at that distance you're going to be shooting f/8 or better anyway, so you're not going to worry too much about autofocus, the whole thing is in focus by aperture

[sly elk]

poggin!

yea I think the sapphire gem thing is neat

[bitter girder]

poggie

[odd sand]

The gem thing is the targeting package for smart weapons. The hard angles make it not reflect radar directly back

[grand matrix]

So any suggestions on a good mouse that has tilt wheel enabled, previous razr mouse died, and the mouse wheel click on them tends to have bad response rates

[sharp star]

Uh gotta stop using Razer man

[grand matrix]

Yea, I tried the corsair and not having the wheeltilt just kills it for me. I think I tried a logitech one but it may have been to heavy.

[sharp star]

Everyone swears by the G600 but I agree it's a tad too heavy

So I personally took it apart and removed the weights inside

[deep sapphire]

the G600 is really heavy, but because its so cheap its not a deal breaker for buying another mouse thats better suited for non MMO games

[sly elk]

if you don't mind the weight and the price, g502 wireless ❤️

[deep sapphire]

I think I paid 35 bucks for my G600 5 years ago and it still works, I have a deathadder V2 for FPS games

[sly elk]

oh you want an mmo mouse?

if you want a cheap logitech wireless it's hard to beat the g602 lmao

[grand matrix]

yea I'm thinking of trying th G600 again. I'm not a fan of wireless

[sly elk]

looks like it's finally been discontinued though

i've never used a g600 o_O

i wonder how they are

those fake eames chairs look comfy

[grand matrix]

Yea, I'm giving the Logitech mouse another shot, hopefully it goes better this time. I think the other issue I had was binding those two buttons south of the mouse wheel

[deep sapphire]

they arent the most comfortable mouse but they do well enough, its not like you need much for an MMO

and they are cheap and reliable

[sly elk]

there's a lot of other brands of mouse out there

[deep sapphire]

just buy a dedicated performance mouse if you play other games

[sly elk]

I think half the problem with mouses is we all gravitate towards logitech and razer lol

[bitter girder]

logitech mice

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[grand matrix]

The problem is that the alternative is what corsair, and for all their flaws they're more well known than some knock-off

[sly elk]

nah there's more brands, but the fact I don't remember them lol 😄

steelseries and glorious and hyperx I guess?

there are more

zowie

[modest moss]

G203 crew

[sly elk]

rocat? but how many of those brands actually make things and how many just take random chinese design #6 and slap their name on it

[bitter girder]

pro x superlight

you can blow on it and it fucking moves

[sly elk]

part of why I like logitech and razer. I know if I'm buying one of those that they designed the whole fucking thing themselves

[bitter girder]

pretty sure alienware mice are actually logitech

they used to be anyway

[deep sapphire]

Razer seems better now days

[bitter girder]

same with keyboard

[deep sapphire]

I've had my V2 for a couple years now

its held up fine

[grand matrix]

I remember when alienware wasn't part of Dell

[sly elk]

imma say

[bitter girder]

say it

[sly elk]

i bought the viper ultimate because I liked the look and I never had a razer mouse before

[bitter girder]

he said it

[deep sapphire]

the viper seems nice

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/olf-af-as-fuck-were-old-were-really-old-gif-14916682

[sly elk]

i like it! but they need to knock it off with their software lmao

I didn't install the drivers

every time I plug my mouse in to charge, it tries to get me to install the drivers

[bitter girder]

ahhahaahaha

[potent arrow]

@deep sapphire WHATDMGJEKFNDNDNDKSKSK

[bitter girder]

mx master jump scare

logitech options pop up jumpscare

[sly elk]

razer synapse disgusts me

[potent arrow]

literally going to hit 3$ at this rate

[sly elk]

sadness

it went solidly above $6/gal here 😦

[potent arrow]

Fuck

[sly elk]

ohh i take that back

[bitter girder]

hit higher so you can screenshot it and tweet it with the caption "to the moon 🚀 🌕 "

[sly elk]

arco is still $5.85

and costco is $5.79

I'll have to keep that in mind because normally i go to mobil since it's right where all the other places I go are, and that's 6.29 right now

if the arco is that much cheaper I'd probably have to go during a non-peak time

and costco? hahahhahahaha.
fuck no.

i would pay twice as much as costco to not deal with costco.

[bitter girder]

i honestly miss dells alienware x51 cases

they were portable bbqs but they were nice

[deep sapphire]

yeah its fuckin brutal

[sly elk]

lol the pre-dell period was not that long

dell has owned them for ages now

[deep sapphire]

I filled up at 4.65 a gallon, I expect 5 by next week

I swear it goes up another quarter a week

[sly elk]

i liked both of the last 2 area 51s and the aurora r1-r4, liked the x51 although it's kinda weird

the last area 51 suffered the usual dell-isms though

[grand matrix]

Alienware was bought out by Dell in 2006. They had at least 10 yrs as their own thing

[bitter girder]

x51 would have been sick if it was a full sized tower

[sly elk]

GIANT CASE

tiny little 120mm aio

[bitter girder]

huge

weird choices though

like a 120mm rad

lmao

[sly elk]

that case could have easily fit a 280 on the front

looks like they did a triple 120 design lmao

[bitter girder]

like the new auroras

[sly elk]

no the new aurora is awful

[bitter girder]

the fact they're using blower cards and not watercooled

like

what the fuck

[sly elk]

these were fun

[bitter girder]

absolute gorgeous

[sly elk]

and still used regular atx parts

(so does that nacho shaped one)

[bitter girder]

looks like it would transform and strangle you in your sleep

[sly elk]

i had one of these for a while

but mine didn't have the cool top vents 😦

[bitter girder]

look

[sly elk]

and it also did the stupid

giant case

120mm rad

[bitter girder]

ahahaahahahh

single rads look so dumb

[sly elk]

that case would have been perfect for a 360mm on top

the top is mesh lol

[bitter girder]

it looks so cool though

[sly elk]

yea idk what's with their current team lol

oldschool alienware didn't have the R&D money to go wild

[bitter girder]

yeahhhhh

[sly elk]

they tried some interesting stuff though lol

[bitter girder]

the only cool thing from them as of recent is their qd oled monitor

and thats only because they are the first ones to stick a qd oled panel in a monitor

[sly elk]

ohhh i take that back

they came out with these the year before dell bough tthem lol

[bitter girder]

ah yes

i swear theres one of those in green right

[sly elk]

i thought those were post dell

because 99% of the pre-dell alienware was custom PCs inside chieftec dragons lmao

in fact I think that case is still just a reskinned chieftec dragon

[bitter girder]

ahahahahahahaha

star war

[sly elk]

oh yea definitely

here's an older one before dell bought them

LOL

remember when putting foam in the PC case to dampen the sound was popular?

[bitter girder]

my fractal design case has it ahahhah

[sly elk]

anyway, that might still be a chieftec design, but it's not a dragon case, I am surprised

the cases they made afterwards have the exact same drive bay mechanisms

yea it's probably that chassis underneath lol

it's still really funny that alienware has literally always done that trick

start with a common chassis and then add crazy plastic to make it look cool

but while some people scandalize it, I never saw the problem. except the current ones have really bad thermal designs lol

i kinda want that blue one though >> it's pretty and I like blue

[sly elk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/v4p7ug/ae86_corolla_in_for_an_alignment/

[sly elk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlestations/comments/v50c9l/3x_42_inch_oleds_spectre_30_other_cool_stuff/
I like seeing what weird crazy stuff people do with battlestations

sheeesh

when I first look at it, the chair looks too small because the screens are 42" lol

anyone have thoughts about using markdown for documentation vs using tex or something else?

[jaunty light]

damn bitch you live like this?

weirdo audiophiles with their 40% keyboards

and $9000 amp

[odd sand]

They let the headphone cord touch the ground? Literally ruined.

[sly elk]

Posted by u/xSeaTheStarsx 3 hours ago

not u/kyanche

mine is a lot cheaper lol

hell his audio rig costs more than my entire setup

[potent arrow]

notion notion notion

[sly elk]

eh at the moment it lives on something like that xD

[jaunty light]

Its simple. Use whatever trash system atlassian has

I document in onenote and put the PDF in confluence

[odd sand]

The problem with using markdown is it's tedious unless you plan to automate the creation of the markdown itself.

[sly elk]

the motivation for using tex or markdown is they can be written anywhere with anything, distributed anywhere with anything, and it's a piece of cake to have a git ci job that generates pdfs or whatever

[sly elk]

i think it's funny the watchOS browser only lets you open links from emails

but then you can browse pretty much anywhere as long as you ca nget there from links on the page

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/i-use-arch-btw-use-arch-linux-fedora-gif-23272370

[sly elk]

here

[kindred brook]

I think I need a new mouse

my scroll wheel uip

doesn't work

like

takes 5-10 spins

before it goes up

if I press the button and move my mouse

it works

do you think

I can fix that myself?

[odd sand]

Do you have one of those mice where you can unlock the wheel to have it free spin?

[kindred brook]

yes

its still

barely registering

the spin down works fine

[sly elk]

maybe it's just dirt

[kindred brook]

how easy

is it to open and clean

oh

looks pretty ez

[odd sand]

Really depends on the mice. Some are glued shut

[kindred brook]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkQcOWkg9FI

[sly elk]

the g502 likely uses an optical rotary encoder for it

hell you can see it

when you spin the wheel the spokes block the laser and that's how it detects the movement and how fast you're turning it

if the spokes have dirt in them it probably won't work as well

[kindred brook]

ok

an I remove that wheel

[umbral moss]

optical encoder designs

[sly elk]

hmm dang

someone sells a $109 hack box thing that makes my jeep have auto up/down windows >> I kinda want it lol

[royal forge]

My laptop has been collected about 3 days ago

The fact they've not contacted me

Even tho they claim their store is open all week

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

But i'm kinda exhausted in dealin wit em

[sly elk]

sorry to hear you're still dealing with that nightmare 😦

[royal forge]

I've sorta entered zen mode with em

Its like

Too exhausting to fight

[potent arrow]

its unfortunately tou cant take them to court on this

[sly elk]

is nto a zen book right?

[potent arrow]

no

its some shit laptop from a small shop

like

SEA energy Kyanche

[royal forge]

I could

But i'd have to travel there

For court

So

Its like

Is it really worth the hassle? Nah

Good excuse to build a new pc

Tho im tempted to scavenge my old desktop

[potent arrow]

that seems like a better set up then what I used to use

whats the specs?

[sly elk]

yea that looks nice

hehe this dude's ram cooler

[raven ocean]

hello, I'm playing FF14 on windowed mode, is there a way to hide / change this ugly white tool bar?

[royal forge]

Xeon e3 v1231
970
Single stick 8gb ram

Some no name gigabyte mobo

[sly elk]

huehue

[modest moss]

don't think there's an easy way to do it, google tells me you'd have to do something like use a script in AutoHotKey or similar

https://www.reddit.com/r/AutoHotkey/comments/czii72/hide_windows_title_bars_borderless_windowed/

I've never done it so I can't really advise on whether it'd work, up to you if you want to have a read and tinker

[raven ocean]

alright thank you! I'll check it out

[still cypress]

How are you all?

[still cypress]

What happened to your desk?

[dull garnet]

beats sacrificing comfort

[sly elk]

but they're driving a range rover...

6 months of repairs on that thing would cost more than a set of 20" wheels

like when people talk about buying BMWs or whatever as a flex. nah. bruh.

the real flex is having something like this

and having a british car mechanic on retainer to fix it every other weekend

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qE5COhBfAk

@potent arrow

[dull garnet]

My uncle has one of the original Land Rover vehicles, series 1. Says it is more like driving a tractor than a car

He's rebuilt it about 3 times, nutter

[deep sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/billy-herrington-bodyshop-billy-herrington-billy-herrington-aniki-gif-18789695

[potent arrow]

@deep sapphire car detailing 😋

[sly elk]

i like how the $25 scepter can performs better almost all the time

and it comes as absolutely no surprise to me

those $150 jerry cans are for hanging on the back of a jeep and looking cool lol

i know i'm not alone in saying I hate those funky gas can nozzle mechanisms though

[potent arrow]

I love how this shows up just as a needed a new one

[sly elk]

and the funny thing to me is the oldschool ones were terrible at that as well 😦

[potent arrow]

The one that sits on my trunk had a massive crack in it

[sly elk]

lol uh oh

[potent arrow]

The yellow spout always cracked and spilt shit everywhere

[sly elk]

well like

my family used to have one like this for filling the lawnmower

it had a pull-out metal spot thing that made a giant mess

ahhaha

[potent arrow]

What the fuck

thats some phychotic shit

[sly elk]

right

[dull garnet]

Same uncle that restored a 68 Mustang GT

Murica

[deep sapphire]

Based

[sharp star]

https://twitter.com/hmmm_bot/status/1533343356847374336

Hmmm Bot (@hmmm_bot)

hmmm

Likes

5162

Retweets

392

Twitter · Jun 5, 2022, 7:01 AM

[sly elk]

living the life

idk why but it annoys me so much having a 2 fan radiator

that is the biggest regret in my current build xD

i kinda want one of those to wash the roof of my jeep

I just thought of a really weird tech thing I forgot about. Ya know how rotary phones dialed by grounding the line out x number of pulses to dial a number? And how those were replaced by "touch tone" phones that generate DTMF sounds when you pres a button?

I have had the displeasure before of using a phone that had push buttons, but dialed the same way rotary phones dial.

my dad had this alarm clock phone that did that -_-

it was dumb. xD

[boreal surge]

tfw encoding stuff in 4 bits is too complex

[sharp star]

https://twitter.com/MorsGames/status/1533324089342951424

Mors 🐸 (@MorsGames)

This dude just sent a notification to 400k people on GitHub by tagging everyone in the Epic Games organization, which is something you gotta join to build Unreal Engine on Linux.

This is literally the GitHub equivalent of tagging @​everyone, absolutely incredible.

Likes

6320

Retweets

836

Twitter · Jun 5, 2022, 5:45 AM

[royal forge]

He said he was sorry

[boreal surge]

XD

lesson of the day, @ != #

[jaunty light]

These things are so expensive

I was looking at like 1L size bag to put somewhere as reserve and the bags that small were like $200

[odd sand]

Bc they're in the hipster YETI category of equipment

[sly elk]

yeti is weird

it's like a retro but it's not

it's like those smeg toasters

or noctua fans 😛

Yeti was founded in 2006. yet their designs are trying to look retro and stuff

but retro would be a coleman or an igloo or something

as if cooler designs ever change XD

[jaunty light]

idk about that, fuel bottles are the only viable alternative on 2w vehicles, if you have 4w no reason you cant shove a 5G jerry on the back

its also funny how they market them

"bladders for the safe transport and storage of liquid hydrocarbon products and other powersports and automotive fluids"

"not a portable fuel container, NOT intended for fuel storage, transport or use as a gas bag"

[sly elk]

wait what?!

also why can't you hang a set of jerry cans on the sides of the back?

[odd sand]

Of course not bc that would require extra licensing and probably would fail

And yes I was going to say they absolutely had jerry cans on the sides of motorcycles in WW2 and such

It's a nudge nudge wink wink product where they know everyone is going to put gas in them, but they can't actually advertise them as a gas can bc of federal regs

Probably some rules about not being able to puncture them without X amount of force

[sly elk]

to be fair, when I see people put them on jeeps i kinda think they're nuts, nevermind on a motorcycle lol

i imagine that's for people who are going waaay off the grid

[jaunty light]

i wouldnt bother putting jerries on a bike, the weight distribution gets fucked

[odd sand]

Also those are pretty high up so even if you rammed them from behind, you likely wouldn't hit the cans

[sly elk]

but you see people driving around town with those too

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/death-stranding-hideo-kojima-kojipro-kojima-productions-bike-gif-24378387

[sly elk]

LOL

[odd sand]

The jerry cans are fiiiiine

[jaunty light]

id say a good 50% of peoples trucks and jeeps here are fitted for overlanding which is amusing when they be getting 5mpg in town

[odd sand]

It's all dickwaving

[sly elk]

overlanding!

[odd sand]

Those are actually kinda neat. But I would be paranoid about the weight on them even tied into the A-frame

Then again I suppose technically the A-frame has to support the entire weight of the vehicle if flipped over to pass safety reqs right?

[sly elk]

yep

while i like nature I don't think i ever want to try overlanding

[jaunty light]

camping is cool and all but i aint spending $10k on a rig when i would use it like a few days out of the year

[sly elk]

right lol

[jaunty light]

maybe if iw as going on 2week at a time trip

[royal forge]

Just save edit?

[sick edge]

You can't respec in new vegas either sooooo. really, its why scum saving be a thing

[jaunty light]

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/3198

the levelling system in 77 is dumb af

[deep sapphire]

Takes one to know one

[fair parcel]

[jaunty light]

yes its me, the levelling system of the game LIFE

[deep sapphire]

[jaunty light]

i am very sorry for setting your PP skill to 0

[deep sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/180738675779305472/982856241330130994/Coping_and_seething.mp4

[fair parcel]

wtf

I love it

[deep sapphire]

Lmao the dancing gets me

[jaunty light]

damn that was loud af

[fair parcel]

I hope the gigachad model is doing alright

[deep sapphire]

Time to hit the road

[jaunty light]

keep us posted on your gas expenditures

[deep sapphire]

A lot

[jaunty light]

chevron is $7 here now

$15 to fill up the bike now

[deep sapphire]

Wow you poor thing

[jaunty light]

[deep sapphire]

[jaunty light]

I can get almost 100miles though

if i dont flog it

which I do because flogging it is fun on the street

[deep sapphire]

Calling the cops

Degenerate weeb in the neighborhood

[jaunty light]

[deep sapphire]

Uhhh Chevy bros?

[jaunty light]

subaru bros

volvo bros..

mustang being that low doesnt surprise me, but i wonder if thats the 4 banger or v6

[deep sapphire]

They said transmission and A/C compressor failures being very common

Chevy was engine and transmission I dunno if they mean the 8 speed or 10 speed

I know the new active fuel crap has been causing tons of issues

Read tons of reports of people saying engine failure happening only after a couple thousand miles lol

[paper tusk]

or the ecotrash pcv valve failure issue

because we all love replacing the valve cover (assembly) for a singular part

surprised mercedes metris isn't in the list too.

another case of one part goes bad (and often) and the only available part is an entire assembly

[deep sapphire]

I heard the water pump and tensioner likes to fail often too and it’s a pain in the ass to reach lmao

My truck took a whole 5 minutes to replace the pulley

I wish GM would get their shit together, I know they need to reach CAFE standards but having an engine fail so early to save a whole 1 MPG is ridiculous

The old AFM system wasn’t amazing but was way more reliable and simple lmao

[paper tusk]

yeah really

[deep sapphire]

Plus the 5.3 V8 is a joke

It’s so underpowered

The fuckin 2.7 inline 4 they make I think has more torque than the 5.3 haha

The fuel economy of it though is questionable

You’d think an inline 4 would get good gas mileage

But it doesn’t

[wintry drift]

corvette is unreliable? pikachuface

having an engine fail so early to save a whole 1 MPG is ridiculous
if it fails out of warranty does it really matter

[umbral moss]

that's the true secret to success

it just needs to survive 18 months

then it's a $1500 repair

[potent arrow]

The BMW way

Nvm those break the minute they leave the lot

[umbral moss]

the BMW way is to design a car like a plane, it spends 95% of its time in the shop

[potent arrow]

PFFT

[wintry drift]

at the rate the cars end in the junkyard Iguess you are never really paying full price for the engine swap

[umbral moss]

at the rate people fuck their cars up irreparably, yeah

it's wild going to the body shop and there's just a long line of cracked up teslas

no wonder you can find "lightly used" tesla powertrains so fucking often

[wintry drift]

how fucked do you need to leave your car to have it only be salvage

like, fucked enough but somehow you walked away

[umbral moss]

it's pretty common for newer cars that have high crash safety ratings

the passengers survive but the car crumples into a tin ball

once you hit the frame hard enough to need to fix spot welds and realign the chassis, it's boned

it's like $full.value to repair that much underlying body damage

[wintry drift]

remember years ago when the internet raised a stink that crash safety rating only measures the survival of the [ implicitly male bodied ] driver, and less that of the passengers ?

[umbral moss]

I try not to dumpster dive too deep into the "I just wanna be mad about something" pool

[wintry drift]

idk there are some crumple zones that really look like you'd be fucked if you were a passenger

[agile roost]

tesla model y

wow

[umbral moss]

yeah, that's common in the rear of a sedan

[agile roost]

😳

[umbral moss]

the trunk is basically a big crushing plate

sorry, the boot

for you yobbos in the UK

[wintry drift]

tangential to that, I remember a post by some guy complaining that moobs got inthe way of the seatbelt and why was it that we couldnt figure out something better

and like a whole thread of replies of « we did, it's a 4 point belt you see in races »

[umbral moss]

works OK for women, so apparently he has a different kind of problem

[wintry drift]

ok is less than perfect, still